[Q] Fiio E18 OTG USB DAC with LG G2 D802 UK 4.4.2? - G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
Got a stock UK D802 16GB on Kit Kat 4.4.2 (Software version D80220d-EUR-XX).
What is compatibility like with OTG USB DACs such as the Fiio E18 on stock 4.4.2?
Do any of the custom Kit Kat firmwares work better with OTG USB DACs?
Do I need to use USB Audio Player PRO?
Thanks,
J

My Fiio E18 just got delivered tested with Shure SE435 and Sennheiser HD650 playing Apple Lossless.
Native Music player, Poweramp, Google Music... no sound via USB.
USB Audio Player PRO works perfectly via USB.
Using E18 via analogue from G2 headphone socket in is an improvement, but the left channel noise bug is clearer and as annoying as ever.
As a comparison tested with my portable options listed here in order of sound quality with Shure SE435 IEMs.
Best - LG G2 USB OTG to USB in on Fiio E18 with USB Player Pro
2nd - 4th Gen iPod Classic via Fiio LOD (line out cable) to analogue in on E18
3rd - 4th Gen iPod Nano via Fiio LOD (line out cable) to analogue in on E18
4th - 4th Gen iPod Classic headphone jack
5th - 4th Gen iPod Nano headphone jack
6th - LG G2 via 3.5mm headphone to analogue in on E18.
7th - LG G2 headphone jack direct.
Apart from the left channel noise bug the G2 is fine for casual listening but LG need to fix that bug and get OTG USB DACs working again for native android.
J

Update, the free trial version of USB Audio Player PRO caused some issues with normal audio, started to get USB error when inserting headphone jack and no sound on headphones.
Fix was to uninstall free trial version of USB Audio Player PRO.

Fixed!
Delivered today was the cheapest (GBP 2.49) Micro USB OTG adapter I could find on Ebay UK.
Listed as: LG Optimus G2 D802 E960 Google Nexus 4 OTG Adapter Host Cable USB to Micro USB
Seller: good-seller-uk
Using the OTG adapter with the Fiio E18 works in both PC and Phone modes with Power Amp, Amazon MP3, Google Music, Tune In RadioPro and the LG Music player all working perfectly.
Incoming calls play the ringtone over USB audio but on accepting the call audio goes to handset only.
In addition my old Hotaudio Bitperfect DAC also works fine as well.
J

hd1080ts said:
My Fiio E18 just got delivered tested with Shure SE435 and Sennheiser HD650 playing Apple Lossless.
Native Music player, Poweramp, Google Music... no sound via USB.
USB Audio Player PRO works perfectly via USB.
Using E18 via analogue from G2 headphone socket in is an improvement, but the left channel noise bug is clearer and as annoying as ever.
As a comparison tested with my portable options listed here in order of sound quality with Shure SE435 IEMs.
Best - LG G2 USB OTG to USB in on Fiio E18 with USB Player Pro
2nd - 4th Gen iPod Classic via Fiio LOD (line out cable) to analogue in on E18
3rd - 4th Gen iPod Nano via Fiio LOD (line out cable) to analogue in on E18
4th - 4th Gen iPod Classic headphone jack
5th - 4th Gen iPod Nano headphone jack
6th - LG G2 via 3.5mm headphone to analogue in on E18.
7th - LG G2 headphone jack direct.
Apart from the left channel noise bug the G2 is fine for casual listening but LG need to fix that bug and get OTG USB DACs working again for native android.
J
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I wanted to take advantage that you have the same rig as me and wanted to ask you a question.
Does it worth the investment on a Fiio E18 for the LG G2? Can you stream out from Spotify app through USB OTG?
Lots of thanks!

DanHidalgo said:
Does it worth the investment on a Fiio E18 for the LG G2?
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Yes, In the office it works great via the OTG, but unwieldy for travel, so I am using the E18 with iPod 4G with Line Out Dock (LOD) when travelling.
DanHidalgo said:
Can you stream out from Spotify app through USB OTG?
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Did not try Spotify but should work with the generic OTG cable, I can try it this weekend and post an update.

hd1080ts said:
Yes, In the office it works great via the OTG, but unwieldy for travel, so I am using the E18 with iPod 4G with Line Out Dock (LOD) when travelling.
Did not try Spotify but should work with the generic OTG cable, I can try it this weekend and post an update.
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Would be great (Y)

Tested - Spotify works fine with the generic OTG adaptor with E18.

My e18 works with poweramp and other cable that came with the amp.
Good to know that I didn't need to buy the uapp app.

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USB Audio Out Works!!!!

Heads up to all the audio guys out there. Listening to music as I type through my USB DAC > tube amp setup with no special setup. Just USB OTG cable to DAC.
USB Audio Out FTMFW!!!!!
(I'm on AT&T model running ARHD 9.1, not that it matters, I'm sure this feature is universal)
USB OTG to DAC? Do you have an link or pic to such cable?
edgarf28 said:
USB OTG to DAC? Do you have an link or pic to such cable?
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Just a regular USB OTG connected through the USB cable that comes with the DAC
I have my HTC one with headphone jack to rca cables going into my tube preamp the foreplay. Then from the foreplay to my Dynaco ST70.
YouTube videos sound like garbage bags flapping in the wind.
The tube audio only people would smash my face in if they heard what YouTube sounded like on tubes. Not a good mix at all...
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Yep, just a run of the mill standard usb OTG cable and then plug the usb cable from your DAC into it and your good. You'll get the headphone symbology in the status bar and the beats logo although beats appears to be bypassed (which is good) utilizing usb audio out.
sluflyer06 said:
Yep, just a run of the mill standard usb OTG cable and then plug the usb cable from your DAC into it and your good. You'll get the headphone symbology in the status bar and the beats logo although beats appears to be bypassed (which is good) utilizing usb audio out.
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Is that version 1.29? I have a T-mobile HTC One with 1.27 and USB DAC wouldn't work with FiiO E7 or JH-3a.
4.3 Update broke the USB audio out session disconnect
I've got the Sprint variant. Loaded the OTA update to 4.3 and now my USB audio gets hung when I disconnect my OTG cable. If I try to plug it in and reconnect later, my handset locks up tighter than Fort Knox. I've tried a factory reset, took a trip to the Sprint repair center (where no one even knew the audio out function existed ) so I'm stuck rebooting my phone between every listening session. Complete PITA. Specifically purchased this phone to use with my Fiio Andes, and everything was great until 4.3.
Does this significantly effect battery life?

[Q] USB DAC support?

Can I hook up an usb dac to the nexus player? I want to connect the nexus player through a quality USB DAC to my amplifier (which only has analog stereo inputs).
Currently I have a chromecast and use the headphone out jack of my TV to feed the amplifier, but this is less then ideal.
Would something like this do the job?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005COKXCO?pc_redir=1413528130&robot_redir=1
Sent from my Nexus 5
Yes, it might do the job. However, i read in the reviews that HMDI audio extractors can cause troubles with video sync and HDCP. Also, I want one with good audio quality. Most HDMI extractors are not reviewed by HIFI magazines.
So a good quality HDMI pass-through DAC reviewed by HIFI people start at $250,-, they are more expensive then their USB only counterparts of similar quality.
USB DACs are way more common. I can get a better quality USB DAC for $150,- (the ODAC by nwavguy)
I read that android 5.0 supports USB dacs (at least on mobile phones). Since the nexus player also has android 5.0, it should hopefully also support an USB DAC.
I'd like to do the same with my Icon Nuforce Dac, so I'm interested in the answer as well. thank you for the question.
Just an FYI that I am using an HDMI audio extractor with a Chromecast on a secondary TV. The TV (Sony) and receiver (Onkyo) are both 4 or 5 years old and were lower end units. Neither had pass-thru which was making me crazy until I figured out the problem (why no audio from the Chromecast)
I picked up one of the J-River (?) Extractors on Amazon. Reviews were mixed so I wasn't expecting much, but it works perfect. I plug the Chromecast into the extractor and run HDMI video and optical audio to my receiver. I've experienced no issues at all with audio out of sync and the sound is very good.
I am not an audiophile & not sure if this will help with your DAC question, but since I had good luck with splitting my audio/video via an extractor, I thought I'd mention it just in case.
I read that latest version of Android operating system for mobile (Lollipop) supports usb DACs.
Can we expect the operating system of the Android TV to support it as well?

[Guide] How to enable USB audio on Nexus 5X

The Nexus 5X's USB Type-C port can both input and output audio, however mine needed some setting up before it would work.
I plugged in a Blue Yeti microphone into the Nexus 5X using both the USB Mini-B to USB Type A cable (comes with the Yeti), and the USB-A female to USB-C male adapter from Google. The Yeti powered on instantly, it's red light turned on, and I could hear myself through its no latency monitoring via headphones (Blue Yeti has a 3.5mm headphone output), however the 5X would not recognize the Yeti as either an audio input nor as an audio output device.
I went into Developer Options, scrolled down to "Select USB Configuration" and changed the radio button selection to "Audio Source". I scrolled down even farther to the Media section, and there I disabled "Disable USB Audio Routing" (you might say that I enabled USB audio routing). There was no immediate effect, so I unplugged the Yeti, plugged it back in, et voila! The phone recognized the Yeti as both a microphone AND an audio playback device simultaneously.
I don't know for sure which of those two settings truly made a difference, as now that I've got USB audio to work, neither of those settings seems to make a difference anymore -- it seems as though my Yeti is permanently approved for USB audio in my 5X!
The USB audio works for listening to Google Music, and even for regular voice phone calls.
Do you have a USB microhone/headset/headphones/DAC? Get a good USB-A female to USB-C male adapter and you'll be quite pleased! And hopefully you'll be luckier than I was and it'll just work when you plug it in, but if not then toggle those USB audio Developer Options as described above.
Finally someone has posted on audio out and in via USB c! Thanks!
Just plugged the 5X into a Focusrite Scarlett 18i20. The phone recognizes the first two input channels and can record in mono or stereo (input 1 as left track and input 2 as right track).
Also it does seem as though you must keep the "Disable USB audio routing" off for it to work.
Sweet, guess I won't need the SoundAbout app anymore.
This is really nice. Able to route usb audio to a Cambridge Audio DacMagic. Much better than the on-board dac, and no longer tied to a specific app.
decided to add this on my index
[INDEX] LG NEXUS 5X Resources Compilation Roll-Up
Isn't this just a USB sound card over OTG? I plugged in a Logitech sound card with line out and mic in and it worked without any tweaks.
My 6th gen iPod nano plays usb audio perfectly fine on my crappy pioneer deh-3300ub headunit, but no matter what settings or cables I try the stereo says "N/A USB" with my N5X plugged in.
Anyone get the audio-in-via-usb to work with the built-in Google camera/camcorder app?
I am using Nexus 6P
The audio-in DOES work with this video app: https://goo.gl/Dtu14
But with the built-in camcorder, it only records audio from the phone's mic, not the usb mic.
mptpro said:
Anyone get the audio-in-via-usb to work with the built-in Google camera/camcorder app?
I am using Nexus 6P
The audio-in DOES work with this video app: https://goo.gl/Dtu14
But with the built-in camcorder, it only records audio from the phone's mic, not the usb mic.
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I would think google designed it to only use built in microphone. It would take some mods or tinkering to get it to do otherwise.
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makogaleos said:
The Nexus 5X's USB Type-C port can both input and output audio, however mine needed some setting up before it would work.
I plugged in a Blue Yeti microphone into the Nexus 5X using both the USB Mini-B to USB Type A cable (comes with the Yeti), and the USB-A female to USB-C male adapter from Google. The Yeti powered on instantly, it's red light turned on, and I could hear myself through its no latency monitoring via headphones (Blue Yeti has a 3.5mm headphone output), however the 5X would not recognize the Yeti as either an audio input nor as an audio output device.
I went into Developer Options, scrolled down to "Select USB Configuration" and changed the radio button selection to "Audio Source". I scrolled down even farther to the Media section, and there I disabled "Disable USB Audio Routing" (you might say that I enabled USB audio routing). There was no immediate effect, so I unplugged the Yeti, plugged it back in, et voila! The phone recognized the Yeti as both a microphone AND an audio playback device simultaneously.
I don't know for sure which of those two settings truly made a difference, as now that I've got USB audio to work, neither of those settings seems to make a difference anymore -- it seems as though my Yeti is permanently approved for USB audio in my 5X!
The USB audio works for listening to Google Music, and even for regular voice phone calls.
Do you have a USB microhone/headset/headphones/DAC? Get a good USB-A female to USB-C male adapter and you'll be quite pleased! And hopefully you'll be luckier than I was and it'll just work when you plug it in, but if not then toggle those USB audio Developer Options as described above.
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Can you test and report which apps can record audio with the blue yeti? free and/or paid, if you have the time to test of course.
hi! I buy one of this adapter usb-c to 3.5 jack, beacuse my 3.5 jack has broken. I dont find how enable the output audio to work with my headphones. someone can help me? thanks!
chavook said:
hi! I buy one of this adapter usb-c to 3.5 jack, beacuse my 3.5 jack has broken. I dont find how enable the output audio to work with my headphones. someone can help me? thanks!
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That's because you most likely did just get a basic 3.5mm to USB-C adapter with no active circuit. I'm fairly certain that Nexus 5X do not support analog passthrough over USB-C, which means you will need something with active circuitry.
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chavook said:
hi! I buy one of this adapter usb-c to 3.5 jack, beacuse my 3.5 jack has broken. I dont find how enable the output audio to work with my headphones. someone can help me? thanks!
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GethPrime said:
That's because you most likely did just get a basic 3.5mm to USB-C adapter with no active circuit. I'm fairly certain that Nexus 5X do not support analog passthrough over USB-C, which means you will need something with active circuitry.
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You need a portable DAC (get a cheap one like Fiio A1 for 25usd). Nexus 5X USB-C is not USB3/3.1 interface, so it won't work.

Le Pro3 type c audio

Because this phone will be using the usb c connection to transfer audio with, will it be able to use external dac's such as the audioquest dragonfly or the chord mojo with out the need for an app like usb audio player pro?
The whole idea with usb audio is to remove DAC from the phone, enabling best audio earphones can produce. Which DACs are supported, I don't know.
With my Pro3 i just needed one of these: goo.gl/uGYUH4
My Oppo HA2 works perfectly with it.
Does the ordinary headsets with controls on wire like answer button or volume keys work with usb 3 adapter?

Micro USB to 3.5mm Audio?

Hi all,
I'm looking for a way to use my earphones with 3.5mm audio jack via the micro USB port. Ideally, without carrying around a bulky separate amp. I bought a small micro USB to 3.5mm jack cable but it doesn't do anything straight out the box.
I don't know if i just need some sort of software to get the cable I've already bought working, or if I need some other sort of hardware.
Reason for all of this - I managed to break my 3.5mm audio output (plugged it in to a cheap ebay car audio unit and have blown something). I have wireless earphones....but just don't like them as much as my original wired ones!!!!
Hopefully someone can help me out!!
Cheers
You will NEED external DAC and AMP.
Micro usb can only output digital signal.
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You need a USB DAC. There a quite a few like FiiO Q1, AudioQuest Drangonfly, Oppo HA2-SE, Chord Mojo etc. Money is the limit
By itself micro USB does not transmit sound, it transmits a digital signal, you will need an additional USB DAC
Get a quality Bluetooth receiver. Here's a great one with apt-x low latency which is crucial for video.
TaoTronics Bluetooth 4.1 Transmitter / Receiver, 2-in-1 Wireless 3.5mm Adapter (aptX Low Latency, 2 Devices Simultaneously, For TV / Home Sound System) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01EHSX28M/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_urHgzb0W0T91H

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