[Q] USB DAC support? - Nexus Player Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Can I hook up an usb dac to the nexus player? I want to connect the nexus player through a quality USB DAC to my amplifier (which only has analog stereo inputs).
Currently I have a chromecast and use the headphone out jack of my TV to feed the amplifier, but this is less then ideal.

Would something like this do the job?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005COKXCO?pc_redir=1413528130&robot_redir=1
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Yes, it might do the job. However, i read in the reviews that HMDI audio extractors can cause troubles with video sync and HDCP. Also, I want one with good audio quality. Most HDMI extractors are not reviewed by HIFI magazines.
So a good quality HDMI pass-through DAC reviewed by HIFI people start at $250,-, they are more expensive then their USB only counterparts of similar quality.
USB DACs are way more common. I can get a better quality USB DAC for $150,- (the ODAC by nwavguy)
I read that android 5.0 supports USB dacs (at least on mobile phones). Since the nexus player also has android 5.0, it should hopefully also support an USB DAC.

I'd like to do the same with my Icon Nuforce Dac, so I'm interested in the answer as well. thank you for the question.

Just an FYI that I am using an HDMI audio extractor with a Chromecast on a secondary TV. The TV (Sony) and receiver (Onkyo) are both 4 or 5 years old and were lower end units. Neither had pass-thru which was making me crazy until I figured out the problem (why no audio from the Chromecast)
I picked up one of the J-River (?) Extractors on Amazon. Reviews were mixed so I wasn't expecting much, but it works perfect. I plug the Chromecast into the extractor and run HDMI video and optical audio to my receiver. I've experienced no issues at all with audio out of sync and the sound is very good.
I am not an audiophile & not sure if this will help with your DAC question, but since I had good luck with splitting my audio/video via an extractor, I thought I'd mention it just in case.

I read that latest version of Android operating system for mobile (Lollipop) supports usb DACs.
Can we expect the operating system of the Android TV to support it as well?

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Xoom USB to Optical Out

Curious if this would work with a xoom. I want to use my xoom as the source for audio that goes from usb to optical.
I am a N00B so I can't post links yet but this is it.
Behringer UCA202 2-In/2-Out USB Audio Interface S/PDIF Out
Highlights
Ultra-low latency
Audio interface connects instruments, mixer, etc. with a computer for recording and playback
High-resolution 48 kHz converters for premium audio quality
Works with PC or Mac—no setup or drivers required
Free audio recording and editing software downloadable at
Stereo headphone output with dedicated level control for monitoring both input and output
Additional S/PDIF optical output for direct digital conversion
It would depend on whether the Xoom can relay sound to the usb port.. if other USB devices can receive sound from the xoom like a dock or something you may just have a chance if that device indeed doesn't require drivers.. this is just my own opinion
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Android will need standard ASIO, WDM or Core audio drivers for this device to work.
The audio industry standardized the driver requirements a few years back. ASIO works in linux so with some work, it would probably work in android.
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Interesting. The xoom does output sound via usb when in the dock. So I need to find a usb sound card that has asio hardware?

Digital Audio out: Using Slimport

Since our nexus 4 doesn't support USB line out (what a shame for google device), and it's 3.5mm audio out is kinda muddy (compare to my 4 years old creative USB sound card + Westone 4R), does anyone tried the following combo?
Nexus 4 --> slimport adaptor --> HDMI to RCA / Toslink Optical --> Optical to DAC --> Fiio E17 --> headphone
i know this is very chunky ( and i might be better off and go get a cowon j3) and not practical for mobile usage but could this be a way to output digital audio from nexus.
It sounds possible but as you stated impractical. I stream Spotify from an old laptop with optical out to a HD CD player that has two separate DAC's. It gives the sound such a lift that I really don't bother with CD's any mo
did you ever attempt this?

USB DAC on Lolipop

Just a little FYI, I was able to get an external USB audio DAC (Fiio E17 via a USB OTG cable) to work with my Fire HD on Lolipop. It was just a quick test using the Amazon Music app, which resulted in 48kHz/16 bit output. I'm going to play around a little bit more to see if I can get output at 96kHz (or 192kHz using another DAC I have) with some FLAC files. Anyway, I'm thinking this may make a nice little device for high-res music.

Micro USB to 3.5mm Audio?

Hi all,
I'm looking for a way to use my earphones with 3.5mm audio jack via the micro USB port. Ideally, without carrying around a bulky separate amp. I bought a small micro USB to 3.5mm jack cable but it doesn't do anything straight out the box.
I don't know if i just need some sort of software to get the cable I've already bought working, or if I need some other sort of hardware.
Reason for all of this - I managed to break my 3.5mm audio output (plugged it in to a cheap ebay car audio unit and have blown something). I have wireless earphones....but just don't like them as much as my original wired ones!!!!
Hopefully someone can help me out!!
Cheers
You will NEED external DAC and AMP.
Micro usb can only output digital signal.
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You need a USB DAC. There a quite a few like FiiO Q1, AudioQuest Drangonfly, Oppo HA2-SE, Chord Mojo etc. Money is the limit
By itself micro USB does not transmit sound, it transmits a digital signal, you will need an additional USB DAC
Get a quality Bluetooth receiver. Here's a great one with apt-x low latency which is crucial for video.
TaoTronics Bluetooth 4.1 Transmitter / Receiver, 2-in-1 Wireless 3.5mm Adapter (aptX Low Latency, 2 Devices Simultaneously, For TV / Home Sound System) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01EHSX28M/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_urHgzb0W0T91H

Sony Android TV - USB audio support

I use a Sony KD-49XH8096 Android TV which, officially, supports the following audio signal output options:
- analog audio via 3.5 mm jack output
- digital audio via digital optical (Toslink) output
- digital audio via HDMI ARC/eARC output
The TV also has the following USB ports:
- USB 2.0 High Speed port
- USB 3.1 Super Speed port
I want to connect the TV to a Topping E50 DAC with built-in preamplifier, using the USB ports available on the Sony Android TV.
On the TV I enabled the developer mode and the "disable all audio routing to USB devices" option is disabled (as it should be).
If I connect the DAC to the TV USB 2.0 port, the audio signal is routed to the DAC, but the sound is full of "click and pop" artifacts. The volume can be controlled by the TV remote control inside the Android applications, but it can't be controlled by the TV remote control when in TV broadcast mode.
If I connect the DAC to the TV USB 3.1 port, the signal is routed to the DAC and the sound is perfectly rendered, without any "click and pop" artifacts. The volume can be controlled by the TV remote control inside the Android applications, but it can't be controlled by the TV remote control when in TV broadcast mode.
I opened a support case on Sony support Europe and their answer was as follows:
"Regarding your request, the TV has the possibility to play the sound through its built-in speakers, or through external devices connected to the TV via HDMI, optical or Bluetooth cable.
Functionality with other third-party devices, and with developer mode enabled, cannot be guaranteed. This is not normal use of the Sony device."
It seems that Sony don't endorse USB audio playback and don't care about offering or improving support for this capability, although the Android OS running on their TVs has the capability to work with USB audio devices.
I made the suggestion that Sony could and should improve support for class compliant USB audio devices (at least for stereo digital audio).
Sony answer was as follows:
"As you were told in one of the previous emails, the sound can be played on the TV speakers, or via external devices, but not via USB.
If you believe that your device has a defect, the only thing we can recommend is to have this device diagnosed by a repair center."
As you can see, Sony keeps to their policy and doesn't seem to care too much about offering or improving support for USB audio devices on their Android TVs.

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