[Q] Should I buy this or the Note 10.1 (2014)? - Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 General

I have the Samsung Galaxy Note 3 which charges and syncs using a USB 3 port. I have an old 1-gen Galaxy Tab 10.1 which use to read documents and sometimes read news like on my Note 3. Then I use these two devices while I travel I have to carry two chargers with me the old Samsung non-USB charger for my GT 10.1 and the USB 3 charger for my Note 3.
Some say that the only thing you get from buying this tablet insteed of Note 10.1 2014 is that the Note Pro 12.2 has the larger screen and the USB 3 port. Is that true? Regards if I buy the Note 10.1 2014, I still have to carry two chargers around with me a mini USB 2.0 an mini USB 3.0. What would you Guys surgest that I buy?

Euroman28 said:
I have the Samsung Galaxy Note 3 which charges and syncs using a USB 3 port. I have an old 1-gen Galaxy Tab 10.1 which use to read documents and sometimes read news like on my Note 3. Then I use these two devices while I travel I have to carry two chargers with me the old Samsung non-USB charger for my GT 10.1 and the USB 3 charger for my Note 3.
Some say that the only thing you get from buying this tablet insteed of Note 10.1 2014 is that the Note Pro 12.2 has the larger screen and the USB 3 port. Is that true? Regards if I buy the Note 10.1 2014, I still have to carry two chargers around with me a mini USB 2.0 an mini USB 3.0. What would you Guys surgest that I buy?
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I have both the note 3 and note pro, I personally like the extra few inches on screen because it is good for textbook reading and good for note taking. The note 10.1 2014 is a lot cheaper, so if you use cost as a factor, get the note 10.1 2014. I got the note pro 64GB when it was 849, now it is down to 799 for the 64GB, about 9GB is used for system storage on the note pro. The flip board ui is actually nice, but it limits your home screens on the normal TouchWiz UI. The office is really handy as well, but all depends on what you use it for.
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Euroman28 said:
I have the Samsung Galaxy Note 3 which charges and syncs using a USB 3 port. I have an old 1-gen Galaxy Tab 10.1 which use to read documents and sometimes read news like on my Note 3. Then I use these two devices while I travel I have to carry two chargers with me the old Samsung non-USB charger for my GT 10.1 and the USB 3 charger for my Note 3.
Some say that the only thing you get from buying this tablet insteed of Note 10.1 2014 is that the Note Pro 12.2 has the larger screen and the USB 3 port. Is that true? Regards if I buy the Note 10.1 2014, I still have to carry two chargers around with me a mini USB 2.0 an mini USB 3.0. What would you Guys surgest that I buy?
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USB 3.0 doesn't affect charging on either the N3 or the N12. Its only value is faster data transfer times to/from a USB 3.0 Windows PC. The S-800 devices charge faster but it's because of Qualcomm's QuickCharge chip, not USB 3.0.
The Galaxy Note 3 ships with USB 3.0, unfortunately at least in its current state it doesn't seem to get any benefit from the interface. Although the internal eMMC is capable of being read from at ~100MB/s, sustained transfers from the device over adb averaged around 30MB/s regardless of whether or not I connected the Note 3 to a USB 2.0 or 3.0 host.
Update: USB 3.0 does work on the Note 3, but only when connected to a Windows PC with USB 3.0. Doing so brings up a new option in the "USB Computer Connection" picker with USB 3.0 as an option. Ticking this alerts you that using USB 3.0 might interfere with calls and data, but then switches over. Connection transfer speed is indeed faster in this mode as well, like you'd expect.
Charging is an interesting story on the Note 3, but primarily because of what doesn’t change. The Note 3 continues to use Samsung’s tablet charging specification and charger, which has 2 amps of maximum output. The Note 3 draws 2 amps over a considerable amount of the charging curve, like other Samsung devices (in the linear part of the charge curve). USB 3.0 doesn’t change things up here quite yet with the new supported charge voltages that are coming eventually with the power delivery specification.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7376/samsung-galaxy-note-3-review/4​

BarryH_GEG said:
USB 3.0 doesn't affect charging on either the N3 or the N12. Its only value is faster data transfer times to/from a USB 3.0 Windows PC. The S-800 devices charge faster but it's because of Qualcomm's QuickCharge chip, not USB 3.0.
The Galaxy Note 3 ships with USB 3.0, unfortunately at least in its current state it doesn't seem to get any benefit from the interface. Although the internal eMMC is capable of being read from at ~100MB/s, sustained transfers from the device over adb averaged around 30MB/s regardless of whether or not I connected the Note 3 to a USB 2.0 or 3.0 host.
Update: USB 3.0 does work on the Note 3, but only when connected to a Windows PC with USB 3.0. Doing so brings up a new option in the "USB Computer Connection" picker with USB 3.0 as an option. Ticking this alerts you that using USB 3.0 might interfere with calls and data, but then switches over. Connection transfer speed is indeed faster in this mode as well, like you'd expect.
Charging is an interesting story on the Note 3, but primarily because of what doesn’t change. The Note 3 continues to use Samsung’s tablet charging specification and charger, which has 2 amps of maximum output. The Note 3 draws 2 amps over a considerable amount of the charging curve, like other Samsung devices (in the linear part of the charge curve). USB 3.0 doesn’t change things up here quite yet with the new supported charge voltages that are coming eventually with the power delivery specification.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7376/samsung-galaxy-note-3-review/4​
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Well I have tested a mini USB 2.0 cable on my Note 3 for charging, and my exprience is that it took almost and hour extra to charge my Note 3 using a Micro USB 2 cable than the Micro USB 3 cable which came with the phone.

Doesnt the quick charge need usb 3.0 to work? I would get the 12.2 the 10.1 feels so miniscule now and the 12.2 is miles ahead in usability
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Euroman28 said:
Well I have tested a mini USB 2.0 cable on my Note 3 for charging, and my exprience is that it took almost and hour extra to charge my Note 3 using a Micro USB 2 cable than the Micro USB 3 cable which came with the phone.
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And I bet it's a non-Samsung cable you're using. Someone posted charging times with Apple and HTC cables/chargers and they were longer because the device was pulling less amperage. My N3 charges just as fast using Samsung 2.0 cables as it does with the 3.0 cable included.
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Doesnt the quick charge need usb 3.0 to work?
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No. It's S-800 related, not USB related.

I Know its the S-800 but I haven't seen anything but the Note 3 and galaxy tabs with 3.0 AND S-800 Claiming to use the feature. None of the others using the chip claim to support quick charge AFAIK . Maybe reviewers just overlook it?

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I Know its the S-800 but I haven't seen anything but the Note 3 and galaxy tabs with 3.0 AND S-800 Claiming to use the feature. None of the others using the chip claim to support quick charge AFAIK . Maybe reviewers just overlook it?
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Qualcomm Quick Charge 1.0 is available today in more than 70 Snapdragon-based devices including the*Droid DNA by HTC,*Samsung Galaxy S III,*Nokia Lumia 920, Asus Padfone and*LG Nexus 4. Below is a list of some of the commercial Snapdragon devices that feature Quick Charge 1.0. Check out the*Snapdragon device finder*to view the full breadth of devices and features powered by Snapdragon and come back next week for exciting news on the newest advancement in fast charging technology. Qualcomm Quick Charge is a product of Qualcomm Technologies, Inc.
http://www.qualcomm.com/media/blog/...-charge-10-less-time-charging-more-time-doing​​

BarryH_GEG said:
Qualcomm Quick Charge 1.0 is available today in more than 70 Snapdragon-based devices including the*Droid DNA by HTC,*Samsung Galaxy S III,*Nokia Lumia 920, Asus Padfone and*LG Nexus 4. Below is a list of some of the commercial Snapdragon devices that feature Quick Charge 1.0. Check out the*Snapdragon device finder*to view the full breadth of devices and features powered by Snapdragon and come back next week for exciting news on the newest advancement in fast charging technology. Qualcomm Quick Charge is a product of Qualcomm Technologies, Inc.
http://www.qualcomm.com/media/blog/...-charge-10-less-time-charging-more-time-doing​​
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Oh my bad. I thought the s800 was quivk charge 2.0. I hadnt ever seen it talked about before the note 3. nice info Barry
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@Euroman28 I have both and will be putting the Note 10.1 2014 with a boatload of accessories up for sale. That should tell you which I prefer.

When I first got the Pro, it was so much bigger and heavier than my 10.1. I decided to make the 10.1 my couch tablet and the Pro my work tablet.
Two weeks later, and my 10.1 sits untouched for the past three days. The only use it's gotten in the past week is my daughter using Sketchbook.
The 10.1 has its advantages - it's much lighter, easier to hold in one hand, and for games with on screen thumb controls, the 10.1 is light enough for extended gaming.
Everything else? The Pro owns. Remote Desktop, comics, magazines, video, browsing - you name it, and it's better on the Pro. Sketchbook is much better too because there's more area to rest your hand.
I had been saying I'd get the 10.1 if I had to choose because it's a better all around package. But in the past week I've done a 180.

Been there done that, moving on with my 12.2 Note .
Peace and blessings,
Azeke

Yoshi1221 said:
I have both the note 3 and note pro, I personally like the extra few inches on screen because it is good for textbook reading and good for note taking. The note 10.1 2014 is a lot cheaper, so if you use cost as a factor, get the note 10.1 2014. I got the note pro 64GB when it was 849, now it is down to 799 for the 64GB, about 9GB is used for system storage on the note pro. The flip board ui is actually nice, but it limits your home screens on the normal TouchWiz UI. The office is really handy as well, but all depends on what you use it for.
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You can actually pick up the note pro 12.2 for 599(32 GB)/699(64 GB) from Costco.
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I think it really depends upon what you value more. Portability or sheer capability, the Note 10.1 is a highly capable tablet which is also fairly portable, the 12.2 on the other hand benefits from an even larger screen and is even more capable than the 10.1 but it suffers with portability.
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I've considered the 10.1". But it simply feels too small for me. I'm one of those people who prefers usability over portability (As evidenced by my 17.3" laptop and my 5.7" Note 3), and the 12.2" is absolutely perfect. (Well no, I would've prefered an AMOLED screen, but alas, those don't exist in that size. So perfect by what's available.).
The 12.2" simply offers more. Bigger screen, more screensize (which really matters when you're multitaksing, typing, reading, watching a film, browsing or gaming.) and more usability. I can now read a magazine in full size, or use a full-sized A4 notepad (well, minus a cm or so) for my sketching and note taking. With films I no longer have to squint at the screen to see what's going on. I watched LOTR3 Extended Bluray on this thing last night. Brilliant, it's a portable TV!
Not to mention using it for navigation (When someone else is driving. We have a shared hatred for TomTom and other speaking navigation systems. I can read a bloody map, ta.). To have that much screen space is a true delight!
I don't get why people say it's not portable though. I use it during my extensive commute (7.5h a day), and I've not once had a moment where it felt too big to handle. The only times I couldn't use it was when changing trains, and I wouldn't even use my phone during that time for risk of theft or damage. (Am I the only one who's always afraid it'll fall onto the tracks when boarding the train?).
I don't think it's too big. My hands are fairly small (women glove size 6) but I can hold this comfortably on the train or sofa without it becoming too heavy.
I tried using my 10.1" TF700 yesterday as well. God no, I am never using anything that small again!

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I've considered the 10.1". But it simply feels too small for me. I'm one of those people who prefers usability over portability (As evidenced by my 17.3" laptop and my 5.7" Note 3), and the 12.2" is absolutely perfect. (Well no, I would've prefered an AMOLED screen, but alas, those don't exist in that size. So perfect by what's available.).
The 12.2" simply offers more. Bigger screen, more screensize (which really matters when you're multitaksing, typing, reading, watching a film, browsing or gaming.) and more usability. I can now read a magazine in full size, or use a full-sized A4 notepad (well, minus a cm or so) for my sketching and note taking. With films I no longer have to squint at the screen to see what's going on. I watched LOTR3 Extended Bluray on this thing last night. Brilliant, it's a portable TV! !
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I have an alternate opinion. I have a note 8 already , and got a note 10.1 2014 recently from Costco. They’ve also dropped the price on the 12.2 lately, it’s only about 80$ more than the note 10.1, so I purchased it with the intention of possibly replacing the note 10. (Still within the 90 day window)
I use my note in an office, for taking meeting minutes and random surfing when I have a min. The note 12.2 is big. It looks almost as big as a 14’ Laptop screen, so in effect I look ridiculous carrying it around. It looks like I have an extra personal laptop at my desk. Plus with that size factor I’m seriously inclined to look at a Windows 8 tablet which I can use as a proper PC. (Yes, I know it is more expensive)
If I were planning to use this only at home and use only the note 8 at the office, I would keep it in a heartbeat. However, I’m planning to retire the note 8, so the 10.1 is a compromise that works in both places.
My 12.2 also has the screen flickering issue, so it would need to go back anyway. I don’t see myself getting a replacement...

Just goes to show that samsung is right to flood the market with choices.
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chanukya said:
I have an alternate opinion. I have a note 8 already , and got a note 10.1 2014 recently from Costco. They’ve also dropped the price on the 12.2 lately, it’s only about 80$ more than the note 10.1, so I purchased it with the intention of possibly replacing the note 10. (Still within the 90 day window)
I use my note in an office, for taking meeting minutes and random surfing when I have a min. The note 12.2 is big. It looks almost as big as a 14’ Laptop screen, so in effect I look ridiculous carrying it around. It looks like I have an extra personal laptop at my desk. Plus with that size factor I’m seriously inclined to look at a Windows 8 tablet which I can use as a proper PC. (Yes, I know it is more expensive)
If I were planning to use this only at home and use only the note 8 at the office, I would keep it in a heartbeat. However, I’m planning to retire the note 8, so the 10.1 is a compromise that works in both places.
My 12.2 also has the screen flickering issue, so it would need to go back anyway. I don’t see myself getting a replacement...
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Understandably so. It is, after all, a matter of personal preference. You have to use your tablet, not anyone else. So you should buy the one you prefer, not what someone else prefers.
It also matter what you do at the office and at home as to wether it is useful. Whilst I find a thousand uses for it as a designer, I can easily imagine someone with a less creative occupation would not find as much use for a tablet of this size, and would prefer something more portable. I need the extra screen landscape, but others do not per se.
I often use it as a fourth screen. My laptop's and two 22" monitors are the main setup, with the tablet as a secondary system. One screen for Photoshop, one for Indesign/Illustrator, one for Bridge(the laptop) and my tablet serves as my internet/sketching system. The advantage of that is that with two split systems, the impact on the hardware is less severe. (because Photoshop + Indesign + Bridge is a VERY big resource hog. It makes Skyrim at Ultra look like notepad.)
I do often get reactions that I look ridiculous with a tablet this big, yes. I honestly can't be bothered to care. It's MY tablet, not theirs. I have to use it, not them. What they think is so unimportant it's an entirely different planet. I did not buy the tablet for them. Then again, I also get a lot of reactions from people who really like the size of it.
For entertainment and artistic purposes, it's a perfect size. For non-artistic and non-media use, not so much. For corporate use, it would depend on the kind of job.
Although one does look quite retarded taking pictures with it. :laugh: :silly:
I really do like the idea of the Surface with full Windows 8. The thing about it that puts me off faster than a pair of crocks is the Intel HD 4400.
I refuse to pay 2000 euro for rubbish that should've been banned from the market a decade ago. (I would want the best one as a laptop replacement for my Gaming needs as well. And Skyrim, Dragon Age, Mirror's Edge or Mass Effect on an Intel HD GPU = Nope.)
If they bring us the Surface 4 one with a serious Nvidia, I'd be willing to give up the Wacom pen. That would be one hell of a powerhouse! I would so buy that...
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Just goes to show that samsung is right to flood the market with choices.
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Very much so. There are 7 billion people and potential customers on the planet, it is corporate suicide to assume everyone is identical and wants the same thing for the same reasons and use it the same. It's a mistake that's going to bite Apple in the arse soon enough.
You catch more fish with a wide net than with a single hook.

USB 3 works better than expected.
Note 10.1
I did a couple experiments with the Note 10.1 2014, trying to get it to work correctly before giving up entirely. Using either the Samsung charger/cable or the aftermarket one, the tablet would always discharge when the screen was on. Slowly, albeit, but i need a device that can work and charge at the same time. I tried turning down the brightness and switching off the wi-fi, but it had the same results: the battery would keep draining.
Note Pro
I returned the 10.1 2014 and, with some trepidation, got the Note Pro as a replacement. I was pleasantly surprised: with USB 3 and a half-decent charger, it charges during use. I tried using a generic Amazon USB cable with equally beneficial results. The charger should be 2.1A, but most high-powered, tablet-based ones should do. That's pretty cool, considering I can get a 6-foot USB 3 cable for about $8.
There is something about USB 3 that lets the Note Pro charge faster. I'd recommend it for any "power" users.

I own the note 10.1 2014 - its a great tablet easy to carry around due to the size - it is my go to tablet and very quick once you install the xkat rom and xluco kernel - I also own the 8.4 pro also a great tablet - this one is running cm11 - and much more portable then even the note 10.1, I am picking up a note 12.2 tomorrow - bought a used one at a great price and while I don't need all 3 tablets I will probably keep 2 of them, just not sure which 2 yet - I am thinking it will be the 12.2 and 8.4 but you never know :laugh: my only concern right now is that there are no custom roms for the note pro 12.2 and I really don't like running stock

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Unique chance to review the Tf against Galaxy Tab

I'm going to be attending one of the biggest blogging conventions next week BlogHer 11 in San Diego. Samsung reached out to me with an offer to test drive the Galaxy Tab.Fedex delivered the Tab a couple hours ago. The Tab will be returned after testing,I purchased my TF on my own so my impressions and review will be objective.Looking forward to comparing the 2 in real life working situations and sharing my findings with you all.
Initial impressions? Galaxy Tab is light,very slim,build quality is excellent,charger goes together easily,cable is long. Screen quality is good but colors are somewhat oversaturated to my eye.
You can get a USB adapter from Samsung website, $20 USD. Interesting to see what can be connected to Samsung 10.1 using this accessory.
Unfortunately, the 7 inch Samsung will never be compatible with the USB adapter accessory. My Verizon Samsung 7 inch tablet is still Android 2.2 and I am very disappointed. Verizon is not doing anything to *encourage* Samsung tablet purchases with a data plan.
ASUS TF101 has the USB feature in the dock, e.g. two USB ports plus SD card slot. ASUS has not started shipping their USB adapter accessory for the tablet only.
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You can get a USB adapter from Samsung website, $20 USD. Interesting to see what can be connected to Samsung 10.1 using this accessory.
Unfortunately, the 7 inch Samsung will never be compatible with the USB adapter accessory. My Verizon Samsung 7 inch tablet is still Android 2.2 and I am very disappointed. Verizon is not doing anything to *encourage* Samsung tablet purchases with a data plan.
ASUS TF101 has the USB feature in the dock, e.g. two USB ports plus SD card slot. ASUS has not started shipping their USB adapter accessory for the tablet only.
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Evaluating both devices fairly,without fanboyish bias, doing the kinds of real work I normally do will be interesting. I love my TF but must admit my out of the box impression of the new G Tab is pretty favorable in terms of it's looks,weight and build quality.
The difficulty I would have is comparing them as tablets isn't quite right.
The Galaxy looks to have the advantage on the physical side with it's build quality and profile but the TF was always a "hybrid" concept and sacrifices have been made to make it a cheap dockable netbook replacement. So the TF is an incomplete package with out it's dock.
The Galaxy is not intended for the same use cases as the TF and it's seems unfair to compare it with a device that has a whole extra appendage.
So it's not quite comparing apples with apples. As a pure tablet the Galaxy looks to be the better of the two but does that make for a better overall experience or value for money proposition? I can't say.
At least we have choice in the market place
P.S - Cool job! Have fun with your review!
Yes, I am not bothered with looks.... It is how the two operate and run which what I am interested in.
I was going to purchase the 32GB Galaxy 10.1 here in the UK when released (early Aug) but no MicroSD made the decision to try the TF with Keyboard Dock.
Initially I am impressed with the fact the TF has more scope for hardware use and this is where the Galaxy 10.1 will have to come back in the running.
If you can show the Sammy as being the better of the two I will hand the TF over to my Wife and either take the 32GB or 64GB Sammy.
I have both a TF with keyboard dock and a 16gb Tab 10.1. I agree they are different animals, nothing beats the Tab for true portability in a tablet form factor. But if I'm going to be doing a lot of work (i.e. emails/docs/spreadsheets/etc.) the TF with the keyboard is my preference since I can type way faster and be more comfortable with the physical keyboard. The Tab 10.1 is the best pure tablet I've ever used, even like it better than my iPad.
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The difficulty I would have is comparing them as tablets isn't quite right.
The Galaxy looks to have the advantage on the physical side with it's build quality and profile but the TF was always a "hybrid" concept and sacrifices have been made to make it a cheap dockable netbook replacement. So the TF is an incomplete package with out it's dock.
The Galaxy is not intended for the same use cases as the TF and it's seems unfair to compare it with a device that has a whole extra appendage.
So it's not quite comparing apples with apples. As a pure tablet the Galaxy looks to be the better of the two but does that make for a better overall experience or value for money proposition? I can't say.
At least we have choice in the market place
P.S - Cool job! Have fun with your review!
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I agree whole heartedly with your thoughts,I would love to get my hands on the dock/keyboard for the Galaxy to make the comparision more of an orange against orange review. I think it will come down to what each user needs the tabletfor.I also think Kal-El being on the horizon should influence a lot of purchasing decisions.
Am enjoying the Galaxy Tab 10.1 as an e-reader, it's really light so holding the tab in one hand is not straining or uncomfortable. Also noticing that the sound quality is surprisingly good

OPINION: Galaxy Note 10.1 AND Galaxy Note?

Just got a Galaxy SIII as an upgrade and sold it on Amazon (only online for 30 mins) so I've got £450 sitting in the bank waiting for the Galaxy Note 10.1 to ship.
Do I keep my "Baby" note as a phone and run it alongside the 10.1 or downgrade to a Nexus S or similar?
The Note 10.1 has both the features I value most on the baby Note: S-Pen and big screen.
What would you do?
I plan on getting the note 10 next to the note 5
I think that both Notes are different devices. Having both beats the purpose. The original Note fits both phone and tablet worlds. The new 10" Note will not work as good as a phone.
In other words, both devices are for different market niches.
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I'm planning on having both as I use it heavily for work, especially note taking. I will probably use the 10" one in the Office and the 5" for when I travel to different locations.
Any idea when Sammy are going to release the damn thing?
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I'm planning on having both as I use it heavily for work, especially note taking. I will probably use the 10" one in the Office and the 5" for when I travel to different locations.
Any idea when Sammy are going to release the damn thing?
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If you have a pc / laptop in the office you won't need a tablet, just my opinion.
Ok, i have a 10" tablet (before the note came) and i have a note. I take a lot of notes and work with plenty of docs. I must say that when i'm on the move i use my note for everything but when i'm at work or home i use my laptop. No need for a tablet... Untill now the tablet is "resting" in the hands of my wife and daughter since i don't need it for now.
Just to make life simpler: when i'm working at home or work i have my note plugged in and use the things i wrote before. No problems here.
Hope that it helps you in making a decision, 450$ in the bank is always welcome for a rainy day..........
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If you have a pc / laptop in the office you won't need a tablet, just my opinion.
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That maybe true for some, I tend to make a lot of handwritten notes as I feel more comfortable this way. The note taking is just one of my main uses however, when I am at home I like to use a tablet for browsing etc especially when lying in bed, it's more comfortable than using a laptop and the battery lasts a lot longer.
I also read a lot of PDF documents that I annotate, for this I would prefer the larger display and the s pen. I am currently using the Asus transformer for this but a friend of mine will be buying this off me when I get the 10.1 note so hopefully won't be paying the full whack for it.
The attraction for me is all that space to write notes and see a page full at a glance without scrolling around. I've been using Lecture Notes for a week or so and it's perfect for my needs if only the screen were bigger. I wouldn't type on a laptop in a customer meeting as it would be inappropriate but writing on a screen is unobtrusive and feels natural.
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Having purchased 7 different tablets and 3 different phones in the last year, I can say that the note is the perfect device. I do still have a 10 inch tablet but rarely use it now.
The note is a great phone and a great everyday tablet. I tried lugging around a 7 inch tablet, but the reality is that it is still too cumbersome.
You should find a tablet you like and stick with the note imo.
You won't find a device this portable and powerful.
The only other device that makes sense is the padfone.
Good luck.
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Both. I love my current Note as a phone.
I often use my Tab 10.1 when I want a tablet - the Note 10.1 is the first device with the potential for making me want to ditch it.
Is a separate cell necessary?
Would it be possible to use a bluetooth-enabled headset with the Note 10.1 to make calls? In other words, do you really have to have a separate cell device? Does any major carrier support cell service on a pad?
I know the Note 10.1 isn't near as portable as a cell phone, but, I rarely go anywhere without a bag, and I really like the idea of having a device like the note easily available. It seems a bit redundant to have both the pad and the phone (especially for the cost).
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Would it be possible to use a bluetooth-enabled headset with the Note 10.1 to make calls? In other words, do you really have to have a separate cell device? Does any major carrier support cell service on a pad?
I know the Note 10.1 isn't near as portable as a cell phone, but, I rarely go anywhere without a bag, and I really like the idea of having a device like the note easily available. It seems a bit redundant to have both the pad and the phone (especially for the cost).
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Can't imagine carrying a 10" tablet everywhere. The idea of the Asus Padfone sounds good but it seems from recent reviews that it's not that good in it's initial offering.
A pad is smaller than a laptop...
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Can't imagine carrying a 10" tablet everywhere. The idea of the Asus Padfone sounds good but it seems from recent reviews that it's not that good in it's initial offering.
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You should see my kids. They carry their laptops everywhere they go.
The Note 10.1 is going to be absolutely brilliant with the pen. Even the 5.3 Note is not bad and some of the new feature like Formula Match are really nifty. Imagine all that on a 10.1 device. I hope Samsung pushes the software hard and makes paid versions of their S-Memo and S-Note apps with more features while still keeping pre-installed free versions. I think there is a huge potential for domain-specific apps with pen-support for maths, photo-editing, diagrams etc.
Despite all this I will probably hold out for Windows 8 convertible tablets. What I really want is something like the Samsung Hybrid, recently announced at Computex, which works as a regular Windows laptop and also a removable tablet with pen support. This could be the machine I have been dreaming about for years.
Depends on your needs. I hate carrying two devices with me so my Note is a phone and a tablet for me. But if you have no problem with carrying 10" device with you, then get a smaller phone, you probably won't need 5,3" screen when you have 10" one right beside.
You shoud be able to do this as long as Note 10.1 enables this function, it's not related to the carrier. Take the HTC Flyer as an example, HTC seals its function as a phone, but developers bring this function back in the custom ROM.
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Would it be possible to use a bluetooth-enabled headset with the Note 10.1 to make calls? In other words, do you really have to have a separate cell device? Does any major carrier support cell service on a pad?
I know the Note 10.1 isn't near as portable as a cell phone, but, I rarely go anywhere without a bag, and I really like the idea of having a device like the note easily available. It seems a bit redundant to have both the pad and the phone (especially for the cost).
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I would probably switch the baby note for an S3, the main reason i got the note was to be able to read ebooks on confortable screen, having 10.1 would cover that aspect, so i could get back to using my smartphone confortably with only one hand
I'm going to wait for the Windows 8 Tablets. Samsung already do the Slate, but with Win 7.
Something similar, but lower cost and maybe 10.1 inch would suite me. Having Office etc. make it better for work and I still have Note for when on the move.
It does depend on how good and how expensive the Windows 8 Tablets are, when they start coming out...
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I think a win8 pro tablet with stylus and Onenote is simply too much for the note 10.1, and the possibility of launching desktop programs like ansys and catia is a deal breaker for me ( engineer student)
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I was very tempted by the Note 10, and by the Asus Zenbook, but now that the Surface has surfaced I think it's a clear winner.
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A bit premature, don't you think?
While the Surface does present an impressive array of features, I reserve final judgement until I see the price.

Do you still need a tablet?

With the Galaxy Note, do you still find yourself neediny a tablet? What devices are you presently using on a daily basis?
I currently use my 5.3 inch Galaxy Note as a phone/tablet but find myself using my 15 inch laptop more merely to save battery life.
I am looking into an Asus Transformer to replace my laptop. The one here looks good...
http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/asus-...let-pc-with-docking-station-13657744-pdt.html
Alternatively, I could simply buy a Mugen extended battery. It would add some heft but then I would have the battery life of a tablet device - something I find the Note lacks.
So, what doo you think I should do? Buy a larger battery for my Galaxy Note or save up the extra and get that Asus above? Also, I again ask you what devices you find yourself using on a daily basis now you own your Galaxy Note?
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The Asus is the best tablet for me, as the keyboard dock would allow me to do my homework on it, and I would want a 10 inch tab if any. 7 inches is not enoughof a step up, in mu opinion, from any high-end smartphone nowadays that has a 4.5+ inch screen. The size difference between the Nexus 7 and Note is especially minimal.
Buying an extended Mugen will costs me almost a hundred dollars - more eveb perhaps thanks to VAT here in the UK . But it will offer me one perfect device and I would then only need a laptop for homework. Also, I couldn't afford two data plans and my unlimited 3 mobile plan does not alow tethering, unless there is a way around thia that anyone knows of?
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Of course, the Asus Transformer Pad 300 has some pretty good specifications compared to other tabs and - unlike the Note - it can run tablet apps. The keyboard dock also looks useful. So, what do you all recommend?
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Brad387 said:
With the Galaxy Note, do you still find yourself neediny a tablet? What devices are you presently using on a daily basis?
I currently use my 5.3 inch Galaxy Note as a phone/tablet but find myself using my 15 inch laptop more merely to save battery life.
I am looking into an Asus Transformer to replace my laptop. The one here looks good...
http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/asus-...let-pc-with-docking-station-13657744-pdt.html
Alternatively, I could simply buy a Mugen extended battery. It would add some heft but then I would have the battery life of a tablet device - something I find the Note lacks.
So, what doo you think I should do? Buy a larger battery for my Galaxy Note or save up the extra and get that Asus above? Also, I again ask you what devices you find yourself using on a daily basis now you own your Galaxy Note?
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I still use my original Transformer quite a lot. I've got the keyboard dock but use it less than I thought I would although I usually pair it up when not in use as it charges the tablet up brilliantly. I am looking to sell it (if anyone is interested) as I want a Note 10.1.
I'm too lazy to even go get my tablet from across the room and turn it on. My phone is always with me an arm reach away. It's so much easier and quicker, and my hand/wrist doesn't get tired from holding that heavy tablet. If I want to watch movies, I have a TV hooked up to my PC for that, with real speakers. I only have a One X right now, but that 4.7" is enough to make me semi-forget about my tablet. What will the 5.3" note that I ordered do?
Lol you know the funny thing is, I don't consider myself to have big hands. I guess my fingers or long, but I don't see it that way. Holding the One X, I have to sort of claw it since it's thin and angular on the side, sloping towards the screen. The Galaxy S III is probably wide enough, but lacks the thickness for comfortable grip too. The note I tried out at the store just engulfs my hand and I can grip it perfectly. It fits so well. I dunno about my pockets... I had a 7" nook color and could manage holding it at the latter half of my fingers without too much trouble. Too bad it doesn't fit in a pocket!
Used my missus iPad a few times to get her out of a pickle when the apps, need killing or updating, other than that I leave it to her, she loves it, it is big compared to my note, but then it is handy for showing friends family photos.
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Thanks for all of your responses. As I said, it is a toss up between purchasing either an extended Mugen battery or an Asus Transformer Pad 300 and I'd like to hear what you all think I should purchase. Buying a Transformer would give me more screen real-estate, safe my phone's battery some heavy usage, a truly portable computer-like device and the keyboard would mean I wouldn't need to turn my laptop on to do my homework. However, buying a Mugen battery offers me a sole device capable of almost all my daily technological usage and I'd only have to switch to a laptop for some homework or if I wanted to do some light PC gaming (my laptop can't handle many games naturally).
katamari201 said:
I'm too lazy to even go get my tablet from across the room and turn it on. My phone is always with me an arm reach away. It's so much easier and quicker, and my hand/wrist doesn't get tired from holding that heavy tablet. If I want to watch movies, I have a TV hooked up to my PC for that, with real speakers. I only have a One X right now, but that 4.7" is enough to make me semi-forget about my tablet. What will the 5.3" note that I ordered do?
Lol you know the funny thing is, I don't consider myself to have big hands. I guess my fingers or long, but I don't see it that way. Holding the One X, I have to sort of claw it since it's thin and angular on the side, sloping towards the screen. The Galaxy S III is probably wide enough, but lacks the thickness for comfortable grip too. The note I tried out at the store just engulfs my hand and I can grip it perfectly. It fits so well. I dunno about my pockets... I had a 7" nook color and could manage holding it at the latter half of my fingers without too much trouble. Too bad it doesn't fit in a pocket!
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Well, 10 inches is almost double the size of the Note, so it is a much larger size. I initially wanted a new laptop, as my current one is failing to run the games I recently purchased on the Steam summer sales. But, seeing as we have a main family computer capable of running these, I've begun to think about purchasing a 10 inch tab. The Transformer Pad 300 seems to offer me the functionality of a keyboard for homework at home, but I can take it off and simply carry the tab when I want to do some viewing in bed for example.
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The Asus is the best tablet for me, as the keyboard dock would allow me to do my homework on it, and I would want a 10 inch tab if any. 7 inches is not enoughof a step up, in mu opinion, from any high-end smartphone nowadays that has a 4.5+ inch screen. The size difference between the Nexus 7 and Note is especially minimal.
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I disagree slightly here.
I have a Transformer Prime, a Nexus 7, and a Note.
The Prime is largely unused unless I am going somewhere where there is WiFi and I think that I may need to look at some work related issues - I don't care what anyone says, the Prime can serve quite well as an impromptu Netbook for the most part. It is seldom undocked these days though, and this is especially true now I have the Nexus 7 too.
Prior to getting the Nexus 7, I would mostly use my Note at home, but now I find myself reaching for my Nexus 7 more and more often - whilst 1.7" may not seem like much it makes a world of difference when reading books or comics. I had an original Samsung Galaxy Tab, and I've always been a fan of the 7" form factor.
My Note is still my primary media consumption device though, and if I could only keep one I would keep the Note, not just because it's also a phone (which I would require anyway) but because it can do everything the other devices can and more, even if sometimes it is slightly less convenient. Yesterday, whilst at the gym, I had an urgent call from work regarding something that required my attention, and I used Splashtop on the Note to connect to my PC at home in order to make some coding changes - it would've been a lot easier on the Prime, but given I was on an exercise bike at the time, that wasn't an option!
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I see two options really...
Purchase an extended Mugen battery for my Galaxy Note, which will allow me to use the device fairly comfortably as a tablet with around 9 hours of screen time. The problem with this is that the battery turns the Note into a literal brick and, unless I purchased a wireless headset, I doubt I'd be able to comfortably make calls in public (not that I make calls at all on my phone really as I mainly just text). However, having one sole device that is still portable and offers me almost everything I need to do technologically - except homework- has some real appeal.
Purchase an Asus Transformer Pad 300, which will allow me to spare my Galaxy Note some heavy usage throughout the day and, consequently, have a longer lasting battery life. The keyboard will allow me to almost replace my laptop, as the device comes with Polaris Office installed for free. The larger screen would make my hours of YouTube browsing much more comfortable also. However, this option is much more expensive.
foxmeister said:
I disagree slightly here.
I have a Transformer Prime, a Nexus 7, and a Note.
The Prime is largely unused unless I am going somewhere where there is WiFi and I think that I may need to look at some work related issues - I don't care what anyone says, the Prime can serve quite well as an impromptu Netbook for the most part. It is seldom undocked these days though, and this is especially true now I have the Nexus 7 too.
Prior to getting the Nexus 7, I would mostly use my Note at home, but now I find myself reaching for my Nexus 7 more and more often - whilst 1.7" may not seem like much it makes a world of difference when reading books or comics. I had an original Samsung Galaxy Tab, and I've always been a fan of the 7" form factor.
My Note is still my primary media consumption device though, and if I could only keep one I would keep the Note, not just because it's also a phone (which I would require anyway) but because it can do everything the other devices can and more, even if sometimes it is slightly less convenient. Yesterday, whilst at the gym, I had an urgent call from work regarding something that required my attention, and I used Splashtop on the Note to connect to my PC at home in order to make some coding changes - it would've been a lot easier on the Prime, but given I was on an exercise bike at the time, that wasn't an option!
Regards,
Dave
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Thanks, but to me 7 inches is not enough of an increase - having personally seen my relative who lives with me's Nexus 7. The Nexus 7 also lacks a Micro-SD/SD card slot, which is something I'd have to have in a tablet or any mobile device personally.
Note is like best of both worlds
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Note is like best of both worlds
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Yes, but 5" is still kind of small to use every day!
I used to use my Galaxy note as tablet using Paranoid rom. Due to dpi (213), my eyes was easy to get tired and decided to move back to samsung rom with original setting and now everything seems fine even though I sometimes miss tablet interface.
Now I am using new ipad as tablet and I am very happy now. Bigger screen and feel like I am reading text on paper. I do also have a logitech unltrathin keyboard and I can use it as bluetooth keyboard and front cover as well. It is much sharper than galaxy note screen. I am planning to have a data share plan so I can use my new ipad as LTE tablet !
It is all about preference but I do prefer to have a tablet separately due to size of screen and comport for my eyes.
Hope you can find this useful
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Answer for your question
No. Actually I sold my computer and I mange everything with the Note!
Well, I will still have access to a home computer for the family which runs Windows Vista. It is either a tablet or larger battery for the Note.
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Has anyone here tried any of the Asus Transformer range?
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Well their is a need of a tab cause even with 5.3 inch screen its SMALL LOL
send from behind you!
i love havind a tablet for my work but the lack of good android hardware an tablets apps is a deal breaker for me.
i was really looking forward to buy an Note 10.1 but with just resolution of 1280x800px - no way!
my dream tablet need a high resolution display like the iPad or at least 1080p
http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/23/3...-note-10-1-unboxed-2gb-of-ram-phone-messaging
garytube said:
i love havind a tablet for my work but the lack of good android hardware an tablets apps is a deal breaker for me.
i was really looking forward to buy an Note 10.1 but with just resolution of 1280x800px - no way!
my dream tablet need a high resolution display like the iPad or at least 1080p
http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/23/3...-note-10-1-unboxed-2gb-of-ram-phone-messaging
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There is good Android tablet hardware, but tablet software...not so much. However, with the popularity of the Nexus 7, I suspect that will soon change as developers will produce tablet apps.

30 Pin Connector BS

given that the note 8 is pretty much just a shrunken down galaxy note 10.1 (and so is the g note 2) it pretty much proves that the 30 pin connector the gn10.1 an all the other galaxy tablets use is just a big money grab. there isn't a faster charge rate with the 30 pin vs the mUSB nor is transferring files any faster. it's possible that in the future the 30 pin will have some benefits (i doubt it since usb 3.0 is pretty dang nice), but for now mUSB cables are working pretty fine. i've never had a transfer saturate the USB 2.0 cable anyways.
for ref, my gn10.1 generally charged ~1600mAh and transferred files around 10MB/s through usb 2.0, same as my gn8, gn2 and s4.
The Note 8.0 is an over grown Note 2.0
The Note 10.1 is an overgrown Note 1.0
30 pin is dead, long live micro usb. The NEW tab 3s also use Micro USB.
30 pin was unreliable at anything more than 3 feet. Try finding a good 5 foot one for sync and charge at the same time.
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kable said:
The Note 8.0 is an over grown Note 2.0
The Note 10.1 is an overgrown Note 1.0
30 pin is dead, long live micro usb. The NEW tab 3s also use Micro USB.
30 pin was unreliable at anything more than 3 feet. Try finding a good 5 foot one for sync and charge at the same time.
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Agree with you 100%:good:
janjannsen99 said:
What are you talking about the note 2 and note.8.0 don't use.30 pin connectors. Do you even own either of these because if you did you'd know.
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If you reread the OP you will "hopefully" see that he is referring to the Note 10.0 and previous Samsung Tablets that had the 30 pin connector.
He is basically saying ( a month ago ) what everyone knew all along, that proprietary connectors are used mainly to get you to buy the same companies accessories. Cables, Docks ext.
Must say the micro usb connection was the thing that swayed me to sell my Note 10.1 and replace it with the Note 8.0. I use the 8 much more since its smaller and easier to carry around too.
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Must say the micro usb connection was the thing that swayed me to sell my Note 10.1 and replace it with the Note 8.0. I use the 8 much more since its smaller and easier to carry around too.
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I was actually on the verge of buying another 10.1 but decided to see what comes next. I hope it's gonna use musb and USB 3.0 since it'll charge faster via USB then. until those details pop up I'll hold on to the spare 30 pins I have.
I just bought a sero 7 pro and it's about the same size as the gn8. I haven't had a 7 in tablet in a while and iI'm surprised how usable they've become in the last 2 years. I also got my daughter a memo pad HD 7.
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I'm going to clean the garbage out, and if it continues (and you know who I'm talking about), it ain't gonna be pretty.
This is a developers site, not a social network, and there is NO freedom of speech. You're here are our guest, so follow the rules.
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Should i trade my ipad air for a note 10.1?

Hello everybody,
I have a question for you. Should i trade my ipad air 32 gb for a note 10.1 2014?
The reason why i hink about this is because i love the s-pen. Also i love to draw and i think
The note is perfect for that. I have a note 2 als a phone, but i find the screen too small to draw.
What do you think. Keep my ipad air or trade for a galaxy note 10.1?
Thans for your adviice !!!!!!
Greets wim.
wimkaay said:
Hello everybody,
I have a question for you. Should i trade my ipad air 32 gb for a note 10.1 2014?
The reason why i hink about this is because i love the s-pen. Also i love to draw and i think
The note is perfect for that. I have a note 2 als a phone, but i find the screen too small to draw.
What do you think. Keep my ipad air or trade for a galaxy note 10.1?
Thans for your adviice !!!!!!
Greets wim.
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The fact that you are asking that on here and not a fruit based forum gives you your answer. Enjoy your soon to be new note 10.1 :good:
wimkaay said:
Hello everybody,
I have a question for you. Should i trade my ipad air 32 gb for a note 10.1 2014?
The reason why i hink about this is because i love the s-pen. Also i love to draw and i think
The note is perfect for that. I have a note 2 als a phone, but i find the screen too small to draw.
What do you think. Keep my ipad air or trade for a galaxy note 10.1?
Thans for your adviice !!!!!!
Greets wim.
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I have both and I must say that the iPad Air has better viewing angles, better battery life, and the speakers have more bass than the Note. But the sad fact is the iPad can't do as much. What I love about the Note is that I can run Firefox with adblock, I can download torrents and watch media from the device without having to use a computer, I can browse files, etc etc. My iPad is only used for Netflix and a few music apps that aren't available on Android. I'm thinking about selling it actually.
The Note 10.1 comes with sketchpad pro. Perfect for some wonderful drawings.
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Tough call. I own them both and use them pretty equally. The s-pen is very good, but it's still nothing like write on a piece of paper in terms of accuracy. The ipad generally preforms tasks faster. Browsing the web is smoother and more responsive for example. The one killer feature that I love on the samsung though is multi-window support. I constantly watch youtube videos and browse the web at the same time. I found the notes performance out of the box to be unacceptable. I'm running clean rom and it's pretty amazing how much of a difference it makes.
My wife won a 32GB iPad Air at a work event a couple of weeks ago. Sold it to buy this Note 10.1 I am typing this on.
trimalchioinwestegg said:
I have both and I must say that the iPad Air has better viewing angles, better battery life, and the speakers have more bass than the Note. But the sad fact is the iPad can't do as much. What I love about the Note is that I can run Firefox with adblock, I can download torrents and watch media from the device without having to use a computer, I can browse files, etc etc. My iPad is only used for Netflix and a few music apps that aren't available on Android. I'm thinking about selling it actually.
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I have also both Ipad air & Note 10.1_2014.
Actually both of them are great and each one has its own taste, advantages and disadvantages.
Ipad overall performance is better than Note 10.1. There is almost no crashes, force close or shut down while note 10.1 has this problem.
However the note is unique with its S-Pen. Note 10.1 is also unique in writing notes, taking and sharing pics and images.
I think trading Ipad air with Note 10.1 is not a good idea, but think of having both......
skyhigh73 said:
I have also both Ipad air & Note 10.1_2014.
Actually both of them are great and each one has its own taste, advantages and disadvantages.
Ipad overall performance is better than Note 10.1. There is almost no crashes, force close or shut down while note 10.1 has this problem.
However the note is unique with its S-Pen. Note 10.1 is also unique in writing notes, taking and sharing pics and images.
I think trading Ipad air with Note 10.1 is not a good idea, but think of having both......
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Get pen and paper, way better.
trimalchioinwestegg said:
I have both and I must say that the iPad Air has better viewing angles, better battery life, and the speakers have more bass than the Note. But the sad fact is the iPad can't do as much. What I love about the Note is that I can run Firefox with adblock, I can download torrents and watch media from the device without having to use a computer, I can browse files, etc etc. My iPad is only used for Netflix and a few music apps that aren't available on Android. I'm thinking about selling it actually.
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Agreed on all points. I like both devices, but must admit the Air with Android, micro sd and USB would be a better device due to the points noted. The Air is hindered by iOS and iTunes Still like it a lot, but use both the Note and Air about equally.
The two dings though with the Note are the comparatively battery hungry display and the location of the USB. It is easy to forget about it with a case on and try to open it. One too many oops there means a broke USB port. I have done it twice already. The USB location IMO is pure dumb...... So is trying to open a case with it plugged in.
Added: Turning the power save mode on the display does help about 10% and I do not notice a quality hit. In fact, I thought it was a placebo until I compared battery life with it off. I do not turn the CPU throttle on though. Frankly, I thought that was the function of the lower powered core set.
yes i think so !
just only for the possibility to plug a hard drive or an usb key
mambraxneol said:
yes i think so !
just only for the possibility to plug a hard drive or an usb key
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There is a wireless usb and card reader (Kingstone mobile lite) that reads usb flash memory and you can upload or download from the usb.
It is compatible with IOS and android devices.
iPad Air Thoughts
http://www.wacom.com/en/us/creative/intuos-creative-stylus
I'm not sure how accurate it is but it does palm rejection and pressure sensitivity. And it already has a lot of app support. People post pictures to the Sketchbook Pro Facebook page that were drawn with the iPad and I've seen some really really good stuff. And if you comment on their pictures most of them are more than happy to help fellow artists.
My personal bias says get a Note with an S Pen and never look back. But if I try to be objective about it, I bet you could get a great drawing experience with some research and accessories.
If you do get a Note, I would say get a soft screen protector. I love the extra resistance of a soft cover vs drawing on glass.
Hope that helps.

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