Xperia Z2 vs Z1 Screen comparison
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We all know Z1 suffers from viewing angle is kind of pointless to compare its screen with Z2 when its is tilted
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I know the panel type of Z1 is brighter than everything else, I think that picture kind fo shows.
I've seen some other comparison photos... Straight on, they look almost identical. It's only when the Z1 becomes tilted you can then tell it's a... Z1. I know overall the Z2 screen is better, but didn't seem like a huge difference to me.
Some more pic with Z1 Compact:
well it's known that Z1 sucks at large angles, but look at the only two pictures when all three phones are viewed from zero angle, the Z1 has the best details and colors
The screen of the Z1 is fantastic, everyone knows of the Z1's crap viewing angles, that's why Sony fixed them on the Z2 obviously
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I don't know why the angles of the TFT are so important for somebody?
eclyptos said:
I don't know why the angles of the TFT are so important for somebody?
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another item in the "features list" like 2k resolution screen! nevermind the fact that you can't possible notice without a microscope the difference of it from FHD or even 720p screens...
saobang3886 said:
Some more pic with Z1 Compact:
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Looks like Z2 screen is really awesome! Thank you, Sony!
eclyptos said:
I don't know why the angles of the TFT are so important for somebody?
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Well, they matter, especially in some scenarios. Scenario 1: I'm sitting at my desktop with the phone in front, something comes up and I want to check it out without lifting the phone up. With the Z1, that's a problem, since things appear washed out, making it hard to make out some things sometimes. Scenario 2: when I'm in bed and have to do the same as above, that is looking at a notification or something without lifting the phone up. Scenario 3: you're trying to watch a video with someone on the same device, and at least one guy can have problems viewing it from the side. These aren't everyday scenarios, but they are present.
I totally understand that some people don't have a problem with viewing angles, but some of us do, and it's not just hipster-y excuses. My main issue is that Sony has been dawdling while viewing angles have been perfected by all other manufacturers since 2011/2012 (except LG on Nexus phones, they do need to work on it a tad more). Good to see the Z2 finally fixes that, and I hope it continues on future flagships as well. Also hope the glass on the back goes away and/or becomes less slippery, that's a huge issue with Sony's current phones, I'm too afraid to use my Z1 without a case, haha.
addicted2088 said:
Well, they matter, especially in some scenarios. Scenario 1: I'm sitting at my desktop with the phone in front, something comes up and I want to check it out without lifting the phone up. With the Z1, that's a problem, since things appear washed out, making it hard to make out some things sometimes. Scenario 2: when I'm in bed and have to do the same as above, that is looking at a notification or something without lifting the phone up. Scenario 3: you're trying to watch a video with someone on the same device, and at least one guy can have problems viewing it from the side. These aren't everyday scenarios, but they are present.
I totally understand that some people don't have a problem with viewing angles, but some of us do, and it's not just hipster-y excuses. My main issue is that Sony has been dawdling while viewing angles have been perfected by all other manufacturers since 2011/2012 (except LG on Nexus phones, they do need to work on it a tad more). Good to see the Z2 finally fixes that, and I hope it continues on future flagships as well. Also hope the glass on the back goes away and/or becomes less slippery, that's a huge issue with Sony's current phones, I'm too afraid to use my Z1 without a case, haha.
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well those were the bad points of the XZ, i agree with your scenarios, but it's excatly those points which i feel are just fine with the z1.
i wated a dozen movies on my z1 with my GF and niether of us noticed any washing, it just looks splendid, and while on the table it does seem a bit washed out, but not in a waythat makes it difficult to read the screen...
on the old XZ it was a problem... but with Z1 it's good enough. and splendid when you look at it from the front...
Ok then! Z1 is positive for me because if somebody is next to me he can't see or read what I am doing or writing, specially if I sending messages to his girlfriend!..hahaha...
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Ok then! Z1 is positive for me because if somebody is next to me he can't see or read what I am doing or writing, specially if I sending messages to his girlfriend!..hahaha...
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Actually, the poor viewing angles do come in handy in that way sometimes, but it's not something I generally need, haha.
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shteren said:
well those were the bad points of the XZ, i agree with your scenarios, but it's excatly those points which i feel are just fine with the z1.
i wated a dozen movies on my z1 with my GF and niether of us noticed any washing, it just looks splendid, and while on the table it does seem a bit washed out, but not in a waythat makes it difficult to read the screen...
on the old XZ it was a problem... but with Z1 it's good enough. and splendid when you look at it from the front...
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The thing with me is that I've used phones with great displays recently, so with the Z1 I only notice the bad sides, hehe. It does look good when looked at from the front, but again, it doesn't impress me after using those other phones.
I actually see the viewing angles as a plus. Means friends can't see as easily what I'm doing on my phone if they're trying to peak.
No downside to it eithe really, not like I hold my phone in a tilting position.
My viewing angles arent great either but people can still read what im doing from most angles so no privacy there
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Was I the only one to think the Z1 actually looks better than both the Compact and the Z2?
Im more than satisfied with the screen on the 1. Personally i see no reason at all to upgrade to 2. 100 more Mhz, bigger screen which is better for a media center phone and 1gb more POINTLESS ram, whats so good to justify buying a new phone?
Should the Z2 came with things like smart camera usage or touch pressure sensitivity or be able to read finger while hovering -but not- touching the screen, id call that a big syep forward for Sony. Atm it offers features that feel 10 years old compared to Samsung's technologie.
Honestly, my curiosity is that, Z2 adopted better screen like IPS with better views angles. It has bigger battery, 3200 instead of 3000, and 2.3 ghz instead 2.2, so let's use some down cloccking App to put 2.3ghz to 2.2, at the end it will be perfectly the same as Z1, BUT, with latest Screen on Z2 it will consume less energy than Z1? So if I get 5 hours on Screen with Z1 how long I will get on Z2? 5,2 inces don't make such a difference anyway...so any Idea?
We need to wait for proper testing to see if the small increase in battery actually improves battery life, keeps it about the same (given the faster CPU/GPU, bigger screen etc), or actually makes it slightly worse.
Personally I don't think there's going to be much difference.
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BIG-UPDATE
xda member Xifil spoke to a Sony Rep from London who put him in touch with a Sony Rep in Belguim or Sweden or somwhere cant remember then name but he knew more about the technology in the phone, and confirmed what i feared
xiFIL call to Sony Rep @ approx 20:30 18/02/2012
xiFIL: HI, its ******* from VODAFONE, i wanted to ask with regards to the technologies in the screen, we can be real with each other, i work for vodafone, work for a carrier, your Sony Rep referred me to you, how do you find the screen, how do you find the quality, do you believe the screen is up to par,
SONY REP: I'm going to be honest here, if you are someone who is an average user then the screen so much wouldn't matter much to you
but if it was me i would not buy the screen, there was no way for SONY to make a really slim device without putting an E-IPS cheaper screen in,
and because we know that everyone will not be happy with the screen, so we added the waterproof feature to subsidize for it.
xiFIL: The Dev unit had a really good screen though, it was good quality but several other devices i have tested were rubbish....?
SONY REP: The DEV units were made in Japan and came directly from there, and different to the production units, it is a variant of the Japanese variant without the branding, and all the developer tools,
The above conversation is not word for word but along those lines
SONY actually realized the xperia Z was not up to par, they still went ahead with the Z being rubbish, this is first hand news from a SONY REP WHO ADMITTED THEY HAVE NOT MADE A SCREEN UPTO PAR with current devices and gave it waterproofing to make up for the screen being rubbish, face it not one of us would have bought it with a inferior screen if it does not have the IP ratings!
Believe it if you want or stay in denial, but you will see after launch, the Japs seem to have got a better variant but we have been had off!
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kyogiro said:
Both, poor contrast and washed out colors. It is the unit that being demoed at the Paris Sony Store.
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shem2409 said:
I was better but still not perfect. The screen just lacks vibrancy, it appears kinda dull. I mean it is beautiful when you view images and videos, but when you compare it to any other device you feel like there is something missing in presentation of colors. As I said before, though the blacks are deep and I don't think that there is any problems with the viewing angles. The screen appears very reflective, but the one I looked at lacked the screen protector supplied with the phone (which maybe corrects that a little bit)
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kyogiro said:
I got the same impression when testing the device for 30 minutes. Te difference, screen wise, is stunning when I was running YouTube (for some reason or maybe it's normal, the bravia engine didn't kick in) or playing the installed game, Temple Run 2.
What is even more troublesome is the fact that the problem is not officially recognized by Sony, so it's highly possible that some of the customers will end up with the bad unit. While I was told the test models were demo ones, I got very worried reading the Gsmarena review because they specifically requested another unit after their first XZ's preview and getting, surprisingly a bad screen.
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I have some bad news, There is a reason why the Sony store devices had a washed out device,
I just spoke to XDA member xiFIL, and my worst fears have come true, his Vodafone store received batches of the Z today in preparation for launch, These were final units not dev units, the boxes had IMEI numbers on it and serial numbers etc, they took out a few devices where the boxes got damaged in transit and tested them to make sure they work as well as testing the whole batch for quality control.
His Dev unit was special and it had a really good screen like the Docomo units BUT
The screens on the final units received at his store today look washed out like the demo units, to top this off he checked several devices in case it was just one device that had a faulty screen AND all of them looked like the demo units with washed out colours exactly as described in the paris sony store and by shem2409, there is no production unit and demo unit theory, why would SONY put rubbish screens in the demo and then better ones in the actual product, no there was no cost saving, the JAPS just gave themselves a better screen than the rest of the world, THIS IS IT!, this is what you will get nothing else, all hope was lost today and i am probably going to cancel my Pre-order,
There is no trolling, there is no hating on the device, it is the simple truth, Sony just put a 2012 screen on a 2013 device,
So many people have seen the live units at phones 4 u, at a sony store and all agree with the above.
OLD NEWS
One question posed was whether the Sony Xperia Z uses an IPS screen or not due to so much negativity regarding pre-production models being washed out with poor viewing angles.
It did state it in the Sony blog last year they were going to use JDI who manufacture IPS screens and also remove a layer of air between the screen and glass.
It appears Sony may have lived up to its claim and the Screen looks brilliant with good viewing angles!
After carefully analyzing the videos very closely, i see the display does not wash out at like the demo units do and the viewing angles and color seem to be on par with the S3 or One X
more videos below!
I have seen two demo units in two different retail stores and have to say the videos below are definitely better.
please watch video on youtube full screen in HD mode on a big screen and see for yourself,
XDA User Shem2409 went to the Sony Center today and took a short video in which he demoed the screen viewing angles, brightness and color as best as possible.
Here is his video:
to thank him directly click his post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38031308&postcount=342
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here are is the Japanese live model video so now stop slating and trolling the phone after reading sh!tty preview demo reviews and wait for the real thing to come out!
Also if you watch this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=lgsYDXmdVzc#t=130s
forward to 2 minutes and 10 seconds, while the phone is booting up, the screen dims a little and all of a sudden it gives better black levels at 2:17
video is also here if you manually forward
Apparently this is the calibration tool which will be provided on the Z to calibrate our own display colour
A Sony representative also claimed the pre-production/DEMO/beta models were made using cheap materials and also the screen was glued by hand and not set properly as the production models, simply because they wanted the devices to be ready for CES 2013 and due to the amount of demo units they wanted to send out asap and that the production models would be better.
So now if you wanna be gangster and look at your phone sideways, you can!
I will give a full review of the screen and phone once i get my phone on the 28th
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I believe it is not an IPS display.
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DdcCabuslay said:
I believe it is not an IPS display.
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That is what i thought but then i saw this
We previously reported on the fact that at least one of Sony Mobile’s upcoming 2013 flagship is likely to feature a 5-inch (1920 x 1080) display with an impressive 443 PPI. The display will be developed by Japan Display Inc (JDI) and the press release published in early October suggested it would be a TFT-LCD IPS display in RGB configuration.
on this
http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/10/2...0p-display-may-feature-whitemagic-technology/
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no it doesnt
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36943663&posted=1#post36943663
xl VipeR lx said:
Does anyone know wether the Z features an IPS screen or not. It did state it in the sony blog last year.
Also how does one feel about the viewing angles? and its negative publicity at the moment?
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I remember reading somewere (watched so many xperia Z videos i lost track ) that the xperia Z is actually IPS and that the demo units were TFT screens and that, but this hasn't been confirmed, nor does it seem to be true as no sony representatives have mentioned it, not unlikely though
Oh dear lord how many times do we have to say it.
The Xperia Z DOES HAVE AN IPS DISPLAY. NOT ALL IPS DISPLAYS HAVE THE SAME VIEWING ANGLES.
Also, IPS is still TFT. It is an IPS TFT LCD. The display you're thinking of with the really bad viewing angles that change colours under an angle are TN TFT LCD's. Have a look here for more about that: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36852469&postcount=100
The Xperia Z uses this display: http://www.j-display.com/english/news/2012/20121004.html
Well as of whatever i havve seen on youtube..The only problem with the display is the viewing angles...The screen looks washed out..Otherwise using it straight [which is 90% of the time] its a great screen. Just coz of the TFT nature it has this problem and IPS does not solve it.
Ambroos said:
Oh dear lord how many times do we have to say it.
The Xperia Z DOES HAVE AN IPS DISPLAY. NOT ALL IPS DISPLAYS HAVE THE SAME VIEWING ANGLES.
Also, IPS is still TFT. It is an IPS TFT LCD. The display you're thinking of with the really bad viewing angles that change colours under an angle are TN TFT LCD's. Have a look here for more about that: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36852469&postcount=100
The Xperia Z uses this display: http://www.j-display.com/english/news/2012/20121004.html
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Good point, in any case if the viewing angles/colours are washed out then they included a screen colour colaborator so there is no need to root it, instead you can do it straight from the device.
The IPS doesnt help it in viewing angles though..it looks washed out!
Who cares, I look at my phone straight on, why would you want to look at your phone on a slant, are you a *gangsta* ?
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techguyone said:
Who cares, I look at my phone straight on, why would you want to look at your phone on a slant, are you a *gangsta* ?
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Ye br0 I haz Da [email protected] dog
Lmfao i jk but I do agree with you. I never saw a reason for viewing angles since 90% of the time you look at the phone straight on.
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Display video comparison - Xperia Z vs Galaxy S3
VIDEO
Superior Auto and Exmor RS for mobile work together so you can capture the best possible photos in all light conditions with Xperia Z.
The display isn't washed out on a side angle. All the display rumors are false and they might just be propaganda of other OEM companies.
Take a look at this images(not intended for display comparison) if you see any washed out displays on them.
The ones you see with bad displays were taken by smartass photographers which were paid by other companies to destroy the image of Xperia Z/ZL. Come on guys I know you're all smarter than this
i worry the lifetime
Ambroos said:
Oh dear lord how many times do we have to say it.
The Xperia Z DOES HAVE AN IPS DISPLAY. NOT ALL IPS DISPLAYS HAVE THE SAME VIEWING ANGLES.
Also, IPS is still TFT. It is an IPS TFT LCD. The display you're thinking of with the really bad viewing angles that change colours under an angle are TN TFT LCD's. Have a look here for more about that: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36852469&postcount=100
The Xperia Z uses this display: http://www.j-display.com/english/news/2012/20121004.html
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yup, i don't worry about TFT or IPS TFT... i only worry about the lifetime of Full HD displays... to high PPI
i think the screen is very impressive, and i want it at dayone!!!
Washed out screen
One problem i do have with the device though, is its washed out colours, it just looks seriously washed out, i mean wtf, i hope the screen calaborator can be of good use, because for a 1080p phone with that kind of PPI, its a disappointment, it shall still be getting bought mind you!:angel:
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The screen definitely doesn't have washed out colors. Viewing angles could be better but colors are great, also color calibration is built into the display settings.
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REAVER117 said:
The screen definitely doesn't have washed out colors. Viewing angles could be better but colors are great, also color calibration is built into the display settings.
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The washed out issiue is just because the devices shown were made by hand means that the display and the kristallglass were not glued together that's because they look washed out
Believe me
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So I have owned my Sony Xperia Z for quite some time now and thought that I would share the 10 reasons why this phone is a great purchase.
I hope that you will enjoy the video.
shem2409 said:
So I have owned my Sony Xperia Z for quite some time now and thought that I would share the 10 reasons why this phone is a great purchase.
I hope that you will enjoy the video.
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you got some water under that micro sd flap
Dom3000 said:
you got some water under that micro sd flap
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It's outside the seal so it's fine
I would have bought the Xperia Z if the screen was better. It has some lag on the stock ROM but custom Roms fix that so that isn't an issue. But the screen I cannot deal with.
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barondebxl said:
I would have bought the Xperia Z if the screen was better. It has some lag on the stock ROM but custom Roms fix that so that isn't an issue. But the screen I cannot deal with.
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This^^
Yeah, if it's not for the screen. I would have gone for the Xperia Z a long time ago! That washed out screen was such a huge disappoinment:crying:
We'll I've got used to the screen now and guess what???
I started up the GS3 yesterday to see how bad the XZ screen really is.
Talk about a painful experience. Text was blurry and literally hurt my eyes compared to Xperia and colours are atrocious.
And a new patch from Sony is going to include white balance adjustment in display settings.
Also 4Mb photos
Personally Xperia Z is a better phone than GS3, HTC OneX, Nexus 4 and HTC One. All phones I have owned bar the One... I used one for two days and that was enough.
My Xperia Z just works...
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xchasa said:
We'll I've got used to the screen now and guess what???
I started up the GS3 yesterday to see how bad the XZ screen really is.
Talk about a painful experience. Text was blurry and literally hurt my eyes compared to Xperia and colours are atrocious.
And a new patch from Sony is going to include white balance adjustment in display settings.
Also 4Mb photos
Personally Xperia Z is a better phone than GS3, HTC OneX, Nexus 4 and HTC One. All phones I have owned bar the One... I used one for two days and that was enough.
My Xperia Z just works...
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GS3's screen is a horrible display and I agree that Xperia Z is much better, but still fall far behind other flagships and even its predecessors like Xperia S, Ion in term of contrast. Even Xperia ZL has better screen than Z...:silly:.
That's not to mention about the viewing angle, which is seriously much worse than HTC old models that use TFT Super LCD
Viewing angles are fine, I love the screen. But... Screens and viewing angles etc- never been a problem or complaint until the reviews started moaning lol.
#SaveHTC
Most people have gadgets which has bad viewing angles. Like TFT monitors at work and home (most people dont have IPS monitors because of cost and response time on gaming), many tablets, and even LCD TV's.
And now a mobile phone with excellent color reproduction and resolution is getting bad reception because of viewing angles?
This is what I call hypocrasy.
Opinions are opinions but some people really have no justice.
Xperia Z is the best mobile phone I have used for a long time. It is an overall perfect phone. It doesnt deserve these critics at all.
Technological hype and competition has come to such a level that people are like slaves of media and corporations now.
Sorry for my small rant
silversun92 said:
This^^
Yeah, if it's not for the screen. I would have gone for the Xperia Z a long time ago! That washed out screen was such a huge disappoinment:crying:
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The screen is not washed out by any means.
It's just a bull...t rumour.
doministry said:
The screen is not washed out by any means.
It's just a bull...t rumour.
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What do you mean "rumour" ??
Anyone can go to a phone store and compares Xperia Z screen directly with any other phones !! Why can't you guys accept the reality already
silversun92 said:
What do you mean "rumour" ??
Anyone can go to a phone store and compares Xperia Z screen directly with any other phones !! Why can't you guys accept the reality already
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Lol I have the phone for a few weeks now. Everyone that I showed the phone including users of iphone, samsung and htc phones absolutely loved the screen colors and quality of it. They all say gorgeous colors, stunning quality, I want one! etc.
What are you talking about now?
Stop spreading false rumors.
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What do you mean "rumour" ??
Anyone can go to a phone store and compares Xperia Z screen directly with any other phones !! Why can't you guys accept the reality already
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I'm confused about your post?
Screen. Sharp.
Slightly washed out colours???
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder I guess mate.
I'm getting 4.5hrs screen on time with 13-14 hrs use. Great battery life.
Speaker is loud and connected to my Yamaha/ Energy home system sounds amazing. Samsung could only wish.
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I don't know where people are getting 'Its washed out' from... aside from reviews
If you actually pick up and use an Xperia Z... it's very bright and colourful. If you go into the gallery or watch videos and BE2 kicks in... it's INSANELY beautiful.
Here are some pictures I took VERY quickly... Ignore the badly put on screen protector, I wacked it on quickly to prevent the ASF being scratched until my proper one arrives.
On approx 30% brightness
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This picture was taken out of a car doing approx 50mph, I don't think the camera I used to take a picture of the phone focused 100% as it looks much better.
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What do you mean "rumour" ??
Anyone can go to a phone store and compares Xperia Z screen directly with any other phones !! Why can't you guys accept the reality already
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Rumour means internet bullcrap in this context.
I have the device, don't have to visit shops lol, so I see you just repeat what you've read.
And compared it to all top end phones. Nothing is washed out.
It's just a UI which may make such an impression as well as Sony's contrast control mechanism
which prevents excessive batt usage which works on Sony's grey UI.
But the real performance is on par with SGSIV, HTC One etc.
There are videos showing it.
So please, stop the crap if you don't even know what you're talking about.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpDi95S-PJ8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1OoNrwIEcw
silversun92 said:
GS3's screen is a horrible display and I agree that Xperia Z is much better, but still fall far behind other flagships and even its predecessors like Xperia S, Ion in term of contrast. Even Xperia ZL has better screen than Z...:silly:.
That's not to mention about the viewing angle, which is seriously much worse than HTC old models that use TFT Super LCD
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It's like you guys only check for contrast ratio when you look at displays. Ridiculous! The S has a horrible yellowy screen which is also present in the iPhone 5 and others.
The Z is the first flagship phone in a long time not to suffer from this tint issue.
I for one now see why Sony opted for the contrast ratio and color calibration, it produces a clear display free of that horrible tint.
Long may this continue, if you want a high contrast screen with yellowy look then you've got a lot of options out there.
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kalo88 said:
I don't know where people are getting 'Its washed out' from... aside from reviews
If you actually pick up and use an Xperia Z... it's very bright and colourful. If you go into the gallery or watch videos and BE2 kicks in... it's INSANELY beautiful.
Here are some pictures I took VERY quickly... Ignore the badly put on screen protector, I wacked it on quickly to prevent the ASF being scratched until my proper one arrives.
On approx 30% brightness
This picture was taken out of a car doing approx 50mph, I don't think the camera I used to take a picture of the phone focused 100% as it looks much better.
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Viewing angles my friend, viewing angles.
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barondebxl said:
Viewing angles my friend, viewing angles.
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Call me crazy but I tend to pick my phone up and look directly at it... I must be crazy doing that, i'll try holding it at a 45 degree angle next time!
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Call me crazy but I tend to pick my phone up and look directly at it... I must be crazy doing that, i'll try holding it at a 45 degree angle next time!
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Well I guess all the reviewers, some users and opinion about the screen not being the best is false and everyone complaining about the viewing angles have issues...,
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Well I guess all the reviewers, some users and opinion about the screen not being the best is false and everyone complaining about the viewing angles have issues...,
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can only speak as I find and mine seems fine
I've been following the z2 eagerly, ever since the first leak and i had a fear that it it no longer symmetrical, i have done alot of analyzing of pictures and videos and it to me seems like the top bezel is EVER SO SLIGHTLY thicker than the bottom meaning theres no symmetry.
I have a ocd like obsession with design and symmetry, which is why i choose the z series since the first z, it also to me sadly seeme the z2 has been more rounded than the z1 which to me is a slight dissapointment.
Second off it seems both the back glass and the metal frame has gotten a bluish hue, from what i have seen i liked the z1's gun metal grey frame i don't understand why they changed it infact more black would be nice too, other videos show it in a more premium like silver which i like alot so it is hard to judge as many videos look different.
A positive thing is that it seems they got rid of that ugly plastic strip inside the metal frame that the z1 had, it ruined the design for that phone in my opinion and i adore the design of my z1 just hated that plastic.
other than these microscopic worries the phone seems to be my absolute dream phone inside and out.
I think its the SONY branding, sensors, camera and the black stripe of the speaker bar that gives the impression of a greater bezel up top.
Can't really tell you.
if you're really obsessed with symmetry, maybe you should bring a ruler when you about to buy it later
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I think its the SONY branding, sensors, camera and the black stripe of the speaker bar that gives the impression of a greater bezel up top.
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heres the thing i took sonys official front press picture of the phone copied it put it next to the phone upside down it seems to check out
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OH Yeah..I.....can....see.........................Nah..
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OH Yeah..I.....can....see.........................Nah..
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isn't it obvious unless i am completely wrong
that the bottom one is like 0.5 mm or so longer they would be completely centered with eachother as i flipped the phone unless i am completely missing something
Looks like it is. Can't say it's a problem though. Xperia Z was the same and I only noticed it after a few days...
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isn't it obvious unless i am completely wrong
that the bottom one is like 0.5 mm or so longer they would be completely centered with eachother as i flipped the phone unless i am completely missing something
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zz, Taking a longer much closer look at your example image of the bezel , I think your right , it's very tiny difference...but it's there .
It does not really bother me though, I'm much more OCD about keeping my phone in pristine condition, so as soon as I recieve mine it will be on with a front & back screen protector and case :silly:
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zz, Taking a longer much closer look at your example image of the bezel , I think your right , it's very tiny difference...but it's there .
It does not really bother me though, I'm much more OCD about keeping my phone in pristine condition, so as soon as I recieve mine it will be on with a front & back screen protector and case :silly:
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oh this is not what i wanted to know due to my obsession
and i am ocd about EVERYTHING i spent hours yesterday looking up pictures and videos comparing them to eachother to get the right look of the frame some pictures show it with a dark like blue which is ok other show it with a purple silver like hue which to me is a little on the girly side but i need to see myself before i judge the phone is so perfect that i am nitpicking the heck out of it
the other small tiny worry is that it seems they wen't back to the blue like black glass like the original z
i liked the blue like frame on the original z so chances are i'll like z2 aswell
but WHY would they touch the already perfect z1 design they only needed to add the thinner bezels speakers and screen and get rid of that plastic the design was perfect as it was
if they even dare putting XPERIA in big letters at the front on their next flagship then i won't even bother even trying to consider that it would entirely damage the phone beyond repair for me
the z1 was so perfect but i guess i can't expect them to mae a phone after my taste the omnibalance design was almost that
edit:it all makes sense now they only reduced the bezel at the bottom not the top
which means the top bezel is the same thickness as z1
it all makes sense now
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oh this is not what i wanted to know due to my obsession
and i am ocd about EVERYTHING i spent hours yesterday looking up pictures and videos comparing them to eachother to get the right look of the frame some pictures show it with a dark like blue which is ok other show it with a purple silver like hue which to me is a little on the girly side but i need to see myself before i judge the phone is so perfect that i am nitpicking the heck out of it
the other small tiny worry is that it seems they wen't back to the blue like black glass like the original z
i liked the blue like frame on the original z so chances are i'll like z2 aswell
but WHY would they touch the already perfect z1 design they only needed to add the thinner bezels speakers and screen and get rid of that plastic the design was perfect as it was
if they even dare putting XPERIA in big letters at the front on their next flagship then i won't even bother even trying to consider that it would entirely damage the phone beyond repair for me
the z1 was so perfect but i guess i can't expect them to mae a phone after my taste the omnibalance design was almost that
edit:it all makes sense now they only reduced the bezel at the bottom not the top
which means the top bezel is the same thickness as z1
it all makes sense now
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But that's a good thing. Same size device, but more screen real estate
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edit:it all makes sense now they only reduced the bezel at the bottom not the top
which means the top bezel is the same thickness as z1
it all makes sense now
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I read that the top bezel has to be that size to fit the camera module (camera module is too large to fit behind the LCD and keep the phone thin). So it makes sense that they can't shrink it. Good investigating!
Why are we even talking about this subject? If the bezel was bigger on one side..... who cares?
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Why are we even talking about this subject? If the bezel was bigger on one side..... who cares?
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Because we are tech nerds obsessing over a phone. Come join the party if you want. :highfive:
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Why are we even talking about this subject? If the bezel was bigger on one side..... who cares?
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The OP? What is the purpose of your post? OP clearly said he's obsessed with this. I answered the poll out of memory but now I see it, it really is a tiny bit out of symmetry. I will possibly do my own analysis.
To you, OP. The edges still have the plastic, its just in perfect alignment with the metal so that the curvature is perfect. This was one of my favorite improvements in the phone design.
PS. I suggest meditation and relaxation techniques for your ocd.
I created this thread specifically for all the members to talk about the new 2k screen of the LG G3. The screen is the most important feature of the LG G3 and it is what LG brags about the most. For many of us including me, the screen will be the deciding factor of whether we buy the phone or not.How does the new 2k display panel perform in real life situations compared to other high end phone display panels like the Galaxy S5 or HTC One M8? Let's have a nice dedicated thread to the most important feature on this phone.
Ideas to talk about:
•Contrast levels
•How your content looks on it
•Your thoughts of it compared to the previous display you had.
•Any weird issues? (Screen interlacing, ghost issues)
•Color production
•Do you find it nice and worthwhile?
•How are those BLACK LEVELS (Important!)
•Any heat issues with the screen?
•Good high and low brightness levels?
All of the above... Thinking of upgrading from a nexus 5...
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I have seen a couple of reviews that say the max brightness is quite dim. Can someone who owns one confirm if this is true?
The G2 has the best display I have ever had and I don't want to downgrade to a duller screen (I am not bothered about the high res as the G2 has enough res. I want bright and vibrant!
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I have seen a couple of reviews that say the max brightness is quite dim. Can someone who owns one confirm if this is true?
The G2 has the best display I have ever had and I don't want to downgrade to a duller screen (I am not bothered about the high res as the G2 has enough res. I want bright and vibrant!
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Go to s5 ^^ it's too bright and too vibrant :laugh: (^^)
And ffs please, reviewers, don't simply declare that you can't distinguish individual pixels on 1080p as well as 2k and then conclude from that that the extra resolution doesn't make a difference. The question is: how do you subjectively experience visual items in 2k vs. 1080p--images, text, UI items, etc.. Past 325 dpi, a pixel is not an item, so it's irrelevant that you can't see one. Tons of those online reviews provide what the reviewer thinks their impression of the screen must be instead of the reviewer providing their true impression.
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Go to s5 ^^ it's too bright and too vibrant :laugh: (^^)
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I don't like the s5. Various reasons but mainly the cover over the charging port and overall design.
I love my g2 but need more memory (64gb minimum). I am worried about the screen on the g3 but the reviewers all focus on the resolution but I want to hear from real users about the real world experience of the screen.
Many thanks in advance for any input from owners of the phone.
Great Arstechica review as usual
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/06/lg-g3-review-a-great-phone-with-way-too-many-pixels/
That cover on the S5 (my wife has one), is for water proofing and easily ripped off.
Personally, I could use a screen with less pixels and longer screen-on time. I consider the screen resolution to be a minus. My preference is less pixels and make it a 6", like the HTC One Max I just returned after a week.
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Great Arstechica review as usual
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/06/lg-g3-review-a-great-phone-with-way-too-many-pixels/
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Can't agree with you there. They did the same move as all the other reviewers where they presume that the inability to distinguish individual pixels automatically means people can't see any overall difference in image quality:
Even at point-blank range, it's hard to resolve a single pixel. 1080p screens are also beautiful, though, and when looking at the two, side-by-side, we aren't convinced the jump to 1440p is necessary. More pixels only matter if you can see them, and on a ~5-inch device, it's almost impossible to tell the difference between a 1080p screen and the 1440p screen of the G3.
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That's why I asked above that any reviewers here avoid that particular groupthink and tell us how they actually experience 2k vs. 1080p.
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Can't agree with you there. They did the same move as all the other reviewers where they presume that the inability to distinguish individual pixels automatically means people can't see any overall difference in image quality:
That's why I asked above that any reviewers here avoid that particular groupthink and tell us how they actually experience 2k vs. 1080p.
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I think the most important caveat is that hardly any apps will be optimized for 2k display when the phone finally arrives.
HAving said that, kind of hard to judge don't you think?
Contrast and black levels are bad , i can garantee u that
hamad138 said:
Contrast and black levels are bad , i can garantee u that
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How can you?
theraker007 said:
I think the most important caveat is that hardly any apps will be optimized for 2k display when the phone finally arrives.
HAving said that, kind of hard to judge don't you think?
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That's logical. But so is the idea that the human eye can't distinguish pixels at a density greater than 326dpi. So, yeah, it comes down to subjective judgment calls. In that case, I'm interested in the subjective point of view of people who actually have one of these devices and their actual experience. We already know how do deduce logically what everyone's experience must be, and all the reviews I've read only do that. Images and text may appear sharper at a given distance from the eye in a way unrelated to whether or not you can distinguish an individual pixel.
The LG G3 has the best smartphone display I've seen: It's sharp, but it's also bright and has great color. The colors don't pop quite as much as on some of the better SuperAMOLED screens I've seen (such as on the just-announced Samsung Galaxy Tab S), but the sharpness is off the charts.
Comparing the G3's display to the one on the HTC One M8 (my current favorite Android phone), I felt the LG's was just as sharp, and a few details — such as drop shadows in Evernote — stood out slightly more. And even though colors weren't as vivid as on the HTC, the G3 had more natural skin tones
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From Mashable's review. Everyone's eyes are different I guess.
Contrast was superb. Black text on white background — one of the most essential things a smartphone, or any display, needs to get right — really stood out. The ultra-sharp characters nearly jumped off the screen, and I couldn't discern individual pixels, no matter how close I put my eye to the screen.
So the LG G3's Quad HD display is more than just hype. But only a bit. There's nothing wrong with the HTC One M8's screen — or the Samsung Galaxy S5's or the iPhone 5S's for that matter. They're still mighty sharp, and can display great images, just not quite as sharply or as impressively as the LG G3.
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Contrast and black levels are bad , i can garantee u that
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I truly hope that the screen is great on this phone but I can't wait any longer and have just ordered an S5. I have waited for all the flagships to come out this year and was truly hoping that the G3 would be the one. Two of the most important things to me are brightness and battery life and I'm worried that with the G3 I would end up having the brightness cranked all the time and would have poor battery life as a result. Really wanted to try LG this time but lost my nerve
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hamad138 said:
Contrast and black levels are bad , i can garantee u that
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Seriously? Those are much more important then resolution to improve upon.
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Seriously? Those are much more important then resolution to improve upon.
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yes but not for marketing.
I'm most concerned with the viewing angles, black levels, contrast, and color accuracy. I'm definitely getting the G3 but I really don't want to have to play the panel lottery. I'd prefer a warmer display over a cooler display - as long as it's not noticeably pink/green/blue, I'm fine. A slight yellow/orange tint is okay, but obviously a calibrated display would be the best. My black Nexus 5's viewing angles aren't great, with the screen washing out at 30+ degree angle. My buddy's white Nexus 5 seems to have better viewing angles, so I'm not sure what the deal is. I'm pretty confident in LG's ability to produce good displays -- they pretty much made this phone just to show off their new display.
Actually, I'm now concerned about the narrowness of the bezel. Yes, it's a cool feature, and everyone dreams of a bezel-less phone, but I already have problems due to the narrowness of my S4's bezel. When I'm holding my phone for an extended time, referring to notes while speaking to people, my grip often gets interpreted by the system as a touch and hold. That pops up a dialog that I have to dismiss, and it's really obtrusive in real time situations. Sure, I could be more careful, but it's just too easy to make that problem happen during normal usage. It's not like I have big fat hands or a weird grip or anything. I've already been thinking that when we finally get bezel-free phones, there will have to be utilities to create a non-reactive border of pixels in a user-specified width, or else the user will accidentally be popping things up all over the place. At present, though, I think the G3's large size and tiny bezel are actually going to make it difficult to use the way I want to use it even though it's hardly bigger than my S4. You never know until you actually use it for a few days and try to adapt, but there's no way to do that without buying it, which I'm now hesitant to do.
You're holding it wrong ☺
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My display was replaced by Sony as soft-keys weren't working. Also they upgraded to v5.1.1 Lollipop.
But the new replacement display doesnt look like ORIGINAL ones which I had prior to replacement.This new one looks Matte finish type while the one I had originally was Glossy.
Or either the new display is not of a Z3 but of other compact phones like Z1 compact etc. Can this happen??
I can easily make it out as the regular HD wallpapers which I applied on old and new display looks different on same brightness settings.
Or is it so that the new display batch is improved etc. Or is it just that lollipop 5.1.1 displays graphics in this way???
I'm feeling pissed off!!!
Update*****The wallpapers have a pinkish tint on them.
In fact if I apply same wallpaper and take screenshot it appears differently than on previous display. So now its not just the display issue, seems somethings wrong internally. Coz a screenshot should come natural as it has nothing to do what colors the display produces right???
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See the difference between these two images. The overall face, cheeks and neck bones & overall body, leaves and tree branches etc.all got browny or pinkish tint which isnt natural looking.In old display the image is represented as is ORIGINALLYin colors generation which looks a natural human body tone and also other background factors.
the z1 compact screen is smaller so its not that. Is it at all possible you can take a picture of the screen?
Did you have xreality engine off on the other phone? It might be on here. FYI: my screen didnt change its look when i upgraded to 5.1.1
For all you know you scored a screen from the Z5 compact seeing as the z3 compact is discontinued
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the z1 compact screen is smaller so its not that. Is it at all possible you can take a picture of the screen?
Did you have xreality engine off on the other phone? It might be on here. FYI: my screen didnt change its look when i upgraded to 5.1.1
For all you know you scored a screen from the Z5 compact seeing as the z3 compact is discontinued
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Are you crazy?? Dude Z5 isnt in the world as of yet and Z3compact is just not even a year old and you talking about such crap.
I need a valid or at least meaningful explanation.
It was only one carrier in the US who discontinued the z3 compact. It's still the latest available compact device from Sony world wide...
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Are you sure there's no screen protector on it? XD and is the display better or worse? If it's better, then why complain?
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Are you sure there's no screen protector on it? XD and is the display better or worse? If it's better, then why complain?
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I removed screen protector and it really doesnt look that good as was before.
Wanna know if lollipop is causing this issue coz read somewhere in changelog that lollipop did some gui enhancements as well.
The difference not comes from lollipop. I also change my screen before 2 or 3 months and it's not the same as the original. It is more like amoled now(more hot colors).
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The difference not comes from lollipop. I also change my screen before 2 or 3 months and it's not the same as the original. It is more like amoled now(more hot colors).
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Is it so?? Then why cant Sony put the same old screen.
This amoled seems sacrifices on color quality.
Means tomorrow even phones battery or others part will be replaced by subsequent alternate option rather than the original factory fitted ones????
Lol they didn't put an amoled screen on it.
I doubt that they used amoled
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For a replaced display screen can there be minor color difference??
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My display was replaced by Sony as soft-keys weren't working. Also they upgraded to v5.1.1 Lollipop.
But the new replacement display doesnt look like ORIGINAL ones which I had prior to replacement.This new one looks Matte finish type while the one I had originally was Glossy.
Or either the new display is not of a Z3 but of other compact phones like Z1 compact etc. Can this happen??
I can easily make it out as the regular HD wallpapers which I applied on old and new display looks different on same brightness settings.
Or is it so that the new display batch is improved etc. Or is it just that lollipop 5.1.1 displays graphics in this way???
I'm feeling pissed off!!!
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This is BS, only the Z3 compact screen fits the Z3 compact connector and frame which is an LCD screen with a glossy finish. AMOLED is a proprietary technology from Samsung and Sony never used OLED nor AMOLED displays on any smartphone.
If you had your display replaced at a dubious shop then it could be that they used a counterfeit display which could have much more variations vs. the OEM one but not for a warranty repair obviously.
Now it can be that your display has a slightly different brightness or color temperature vs. your old display which is totally normal. If it has a matte finish it is that you did not remove the screen protector or left one on the screen.
I am not saying the display that they put on my phone is amoled it has colors like amoled that I didn't like.
I'm curious can you post a picture?
I think there's just a difference in your white balance. And it just seems a little warner now. I wish my white balance was warmer
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no screen replacement
I had a screen issue also, but Sony replaced the whole phone with a new one. They said that changing the screen couldn't guarantee the waterproof.
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I am not saying the display that they put on my phone is amoled it has colors like amoled that I didn't like.
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As amoled is a better quality display you do not have either an amoled display or a display that looks like amoled.
Current amoled is much better quality, Check Wikipedia for a list of high end flagship that use it. The Nokia N808 used a 3 year old super amoled that is better than anything on the market even today.
So you can get that idea out of your head. I would pay a lot extra for a super amoled screen I my Z3C.
My GF has a Z1C which is 0.3" smaller but the screen looks like you say in comparison to the Z3C.
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This is BS, only the Z3 compact screen fits the Z3 compact connector and frame which is an LCD screen with a glossy finish. AMOLED is a proprietary technology from Samsung and Sony never used OLED nor AMOLED displays on any .
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Nokia were the first with amoled displays so I highly doubt it is Samsung proprietary technology, and their displays were consistently better than any other manufacturer.
The dodgy repairer sounds like a very possible option. I had something similar in SE Asia from Sony Thailand - complete BS "repair", luckily I put it in a glass of water in front of the Sony store manager so when it leaked water and died he could say absolutely nothing and had to give me a refund, well the fact I made a song and dance and a customer about to buy a large new tv walked out really did it. (I bought my current z3C in the US)
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See the difference between these two images.[/B] The overall face, cheeks and neck bones & overall body, leaves and tree branches etc.all got browny or pinkish tint which isnt natural looking.In old display the image is represented as is ORIGINALLYin colors generation which looks a natural human body tone and also other background factors.
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It was brought up but you didn't answer: you do know you can change settings under display don't you? Is x-reality turned on? Have you adjusted the white balance?
5.1.1 does not change the look of the screen.
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It was brought up but you didn't answer: you do know you can change settings under display don't you? Is x-reality turned on? Have you adjusted the white balance?
5.1.1 does not change the look of the screen.
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Well I never used any of those features like x-reality and super-vivid as Image enhancement was always set off by me.
And those reference screenshots as well didnt had x-reality or vivid turned on.
In fact I never saw any difference eve on my screen even if I turn on x-reality or super-vivid.
A screenshot will not show screen differences, it'll just show the screen on the device I use to view it I.e. My phone or my laptop for me, your phone or whatever for you. So the screen shots are useless. If you don't believe me go and look at the screenshot on your computer.
If yo cannot see the difference with x-reality on maybe that is where you trouble lays? Your eyes.
sorry to be rude but There is a vast difference with these options turned on or off.
So once again, still trying to help you, go and turn these settings on, and then check and modify your white balance - do these fix your problem?
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A screenshot will not show screen differences, it'll just show the screen on the device I use to view it I.e. My phone or my laptop for me, your phone or whatever for you. So the screen shots are useless. If you don't believe me go and look at the screenshot on your computer.
If yo cannot see the difference with x-reality on maybe that is where you trouble lays? Your eyes.
sorry to be rude but There is a vast difference with these options turned on or off.
So once again, still trying to help you, go and turn these settings on, and then check and modify your white balance - do these fix your problem?
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The screenshots are taken internally with the inbuilt screenshot capture utility and not by another phone by hovering onto my device. Did you got that??