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is it just me or does the white text on this screen have red sticking out edges. I think I read somewhere about the pentile matrix causing it. Can someone confirm. It's a shame as the screen is great otherwise. Also when you have a white screen, it's got a green line on the left and a red on the right.
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I can confirm this. I guess it'a downside to amoled screens... Oh well. Nothing is perfect.
None of that for me. Take yours into a store and compare side by side with another to see if yours is faulty.
Actually yes there is a tiny green strip down the left. i hadn't noticed that over the past two weeks!
I guess it is just a downside, but it's a pretty big one considering how samsung bit back at steve jobs fir saying the iphone screen is better. Jobs is right by the way ip4 is much crisper. Strange that none of the reviews would mention about these red things around the text. Every review I've read before buying said this screen was amazing clarity. Ib guess I must have better eyesight than these 40 something tech journalists!
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Really? I mean... REALLY, does this bother you? How close do you guys hold the screen up to your eyes? I notice this easily at 6-8 inches but seriously, when do you EVER need to hold it that close?
I am trying to see the red edge you are taking about from the xda app. The texts on this application are white with black background and vice verser.
Trying as hard as I can I couldn't see them. Are you using any screen protector? Are you sure it is not the diffraction from the protector causing this effect?
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Logicalstep said:
Every review I've read before buying said this screen was amazing clarity.
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Maybe because it does? I don't think there's a review that says the SGS screen is superior to the Iphone 4. They both have their positives and negatives. I looked at the ebooks that come with the SGS and I could easily read them without any problems or strain on the eyes.
People here are so picky. This doesn't work, that doesn't look right, they should have done this instead blah blah blah. I'm I using the same phone? cause I'm enjoying mine.
I can't understand why the hell people are going out of their way in such an amazing way to find stuff like this that NOBODY seems to notice even under heavy use.
No one complained about it in the nexus (nor about the green stripe/red stripe)
Yet, if you look for it- IT'S THERE. LIKE ON EVERY GODDAMN AMOLED SCREEN IN THE MARKET.
*This said, i can't see any red "outlines" on white text.
OP, you're too picky. This is probaly the most perfect non-iPhone screen money could buy now. Enjoy it.
If you look VEEEEEEERY closely, you can find a fair share if impurities in the iPhone screen as well. Mostly poor uniformity of back light dispertion (although a LED screen, it's FRAME led, not local dimming)
And some bleeding in bright shades of red.
Plus, the "blacks" are tinted purple.
All those are tpyical for IPS panels, but if you don't look for them under a magnifying glass (like people are doing here with the SGS), it's very unlikely you'll even notice.
Each technology has it's advantages and disadvantages. Currently all reviews agree unanimously- The SAMOLED screen on the SGS and the iPhone 4 retina display are the two best displays out there, without a definite first place between those two.
Listen I know some of you are quick to say I'm complaining and that I'm being too picky, but I'm only reporting what I noticed to be true on my phone. I posted to see if anyone else could see thee same thing. Not once didi mention I can't live with it, but for me I can see it and I'm suprised that in all the review they haven't mentioned about the red halo around entire text, your telling me that s not a fundamental thing? Come on, fir some people being promised the latest and greatest screen this might turn out to be issue.
Just to be clear, apart v ffrom this and a few small software issues,i love this phone, so please no flaming me for digging at the sgs.
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red halo around the entire text. sounded like you have a defect on your hand. My Galaxy s have no such problem.
This is a problem with the pentile technology they use in the screen, the screen can't display white on each individual pixel, it needs to blend the colours from two pixels together to create white. This can make text quite jagged and make the white bleed slightly at the edges.
I too am a little surprised this wasn't picked up in review (although trusted reviews did pick this up) but I think this raises an important point, you need to make you're own mind up and not just rely on reviews. You wouldn't normally spend this type of money on anything thing else without using it yourself first, and its mainly the impatient ones who couldn't wait long enough to try it themselves first who then have the complaints, that's the risk you take! ps I didn't try it first, too impatient
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tenkom said:
I can confirm this. I guess it'a downside to amoled screens... Oh well. Nothing is perfect.
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It's not a downside to amoled screens, it's a downside to samsung's proprietary pentile matrix. Pentile is not inherent to AMOLED; every other AMOLED manufacturer besides Samsung use normal RGB sub pixels.
Pika007 said:
I can't understand why the hell people are going out of their way in such an amazing way to find stuff like this that NOBODY seems to notice even under heavy use.
No one complained about it in the nexus (nor about the green stripe/red stripe)
Yet, if you look for it- IT'S THERE. LIKE ON EVERY GODDAMN AMOLED SCREEN IN THE MARKET.
*This said, i can't see any red "outlines" on white text.
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Not on the Cowon S9/J3, Zune HD, Sony XE-1, or LG EL9500. I've taken macro pictures of my S9's screen and it is RGB.
Ok, 90% of the amoled screens floating around on the market. happy?
The vast majority of amoled screens use RGBG.
Logicalstep said:
is it just me or does the white text on this screen have red sticking out edges. I think I read somewhere about the pentile matrix causing it. Can someone confirm. It's a shame as the screen is great otherwise. Also when you have a white screen, it's got a green line on the left and a red on the right.
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I used "flashlight" application to look for the green & red lines on a white screen. I thought I might have seen the green line, but I couldn't even be sure to be honest, and there almost definitely wasn't a red line.
I looked at the text a little closer than I previously had and I felt I could see red within white text, however I didn't have a "red sticking out edges" problem. In every day use, and I use the screen primarily for reading internet articles and text messaging, I have never seen the colors within white text.
hmm it odd, f I launch the google home page in the browser, I can definitely see a Green line down the right hand side.
I wonder if my screen as some kind of alignment problem. I donlt even have to look that close to see it, it's a one pixel wide line down the left. and if I look to the bottom and right I see red pixels sticking out from the screen.
I realise that Pentile will make text a little jagged, but should it be this obvious?
I mean the clarity of text on this screen is very jagged compared to my Blackstone, even when I look very closely at that.
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Try taking the same picture and compare if your screen exhibit unacceptable differences, you may have a defective screen on your hand.
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Logicalstep said:
hmm it odd, f I launch the google home page in the browser, I can definitely see a Green line down the right hand side.
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I can see what you're talking about, for me it's one green line down the left and a fainter red one down the right. But this is only on a white screen and when I look hard for it from about 10cm away - it's no big deal.
So my nexus seven was great out of the box. I was probably so excited that I didn't rly notice this to begin with but the back of it is off placed. And also there is a part of my screen that creaks when pressure is applied... So should I return and get another? If so should I call Google or Asus?
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Any pic of back you describe? Do you mean not fastened down all the way?
If it isn't actually lifted and it only creaks when you press it deliberately, that's not worth returning in my opinion.
As for the back, like darin said, it's difficult to have an opinion without seeing it. Have you popped it off and on again to see if that fixes it?
To check if your screen is lifting, which is the most likely cause of your creaking sound, hold the device with the right side facing you. Look across the display and use the left bezel as a silver horizon line. If the black display is higher at any point, you'll be able to see it interrupt that silver line.
Here is an example of a perfectly flush display, looking across the device from the right side.
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If it isn't actually lifted and it only creaks when you press it deliberately, that's not worth returning in my opinion.
As for the back, like darin said, it's difficult to have an opinion without seeing it. Have you popped it off and on again to see if that fixes it?
To check if your screen is lifting, which is the most likely cause of your creaking sound, hold the device with the right side facing you. Look across the display and use the left bezel as a silver horizon line. If the black display is higher at any point, you'll be able to see it interrupt that silver line.
Here is an example of a perfectly flush display, looking across the device from the right side.
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Just wondering, is that a HUGE scratch on it?
atticusmas said:
Just wondering, is that a HUGE scratch on it?
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I believe that is just a reflection
atticusmas said:
Just wondering, is that a HUGE scratch on it?
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I don't see what you're referring to, but this isn't my tablet so I wouldn't know. This was a photo uploaded by a helpful user named drewden to prove that flush screens do exist.
Really hope you're not talking about the left bezel. That's kind of the whole point of the picture.
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I don't see what you're referring to, but this isn't my tablet so I wouldn't know. This was a photo uploaded by a helpful user named drewden to prove that flush screens do exist.
Really hope you're not talking about the left bezel. That's kind of the whole point of the picture.
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Nah I believe hes talking about the thin line above the big grey side panel of the closer side of the N7.
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Nah I believe hes talking about the thin line above the big grey side panel of the closer side of the N7.
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That thin grey line is the bezel on the far side, visible above the glass.
pxlitup said:
If it isn't actually lifted and it only creaks when you press it deliberately, that's not worth returning in my opinion.
As for the back, like darin said, it's difficult to have an opinion without seeing it. Have you popped it off and on again to see if that fixes it?
To check if your screen is lifting, which is the most likely cause of your creaking sound, hold the device with the right side facing you. Look across the display and use the left bezel as a silver horizon line. If the black display is higher at any point, you'll be able to see it interrupt that silver line.
Here is an example of a perfectly flush display, looking across the device from the right side.
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That bezel seems different from my C8 model. Mine no where near is raised that much on my device. Not sure if it is the way the photo is taken or not..
Mines basically flush with just enough to feel the bezel raised.
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That thin grey line is the bezel on the far side, visible above the glass.
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There's just no way... I don't even... I assumed that they saw something I didn't.
Looking really, really closely, towards the right side of the photo, I can maybe see a faint thread of chalky white about halfway across the screen, but why would anyone mention that?
If these guys can't tell the difference between the bezel and a scratch, I'm going to plug in my DSL modem next to the bathtub and log out.
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145ty said:
That bezel seems different from my C8 model. Mine no where near is raised that much on my device. Not sure if it is the way the photo is taken or not..
Mines basically flush with just enough to feel the bezel raised.
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Are you saying that when you look across the device from the right side, like in the picture, your black display eclipses part of the thin, silver bezel on the left side?
That would mean you have at least some screen lift.
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There's just no way... I don't even... I assumed that they saw something I didn't.
Looking really, really closely, towards the right side of the photo, I can maybe see a faint thread of chalky white about halfway across the screen, but why would anyone mention that?
If these guys can't tell the difference between the bezel and a scratch, I'm going to plug in my DSL modem next to the bathtub and log out.
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Are you saying that when you look across the device from the right side, like in the picture, your black display eclipses part of the thin, silver bezel on the left side?
That would mean you have at least some screen lift.
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Pictures incoming of all four sides. Uploading now.
You can see where my minor screen lift is on the upper and left screens. By minor I mean minor.
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Pictures incoming of all four sides. Uploading now.
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Cool.
Make sure you get a decent shot of the horizon test detailed earlier. Unless your tablet is really weird, the others are less important.
Edit: I can see your entire bezel from both the right and left portrait sides -- can't tell which is which. As far as I can tell, your screen looks fine.
What makes you think that there's lift?
I am on extremely slow hotel internet.. Takes me forever to do anything. I posted the pictures above but I don't think it worked.
Hope that works this time.
Also direct link: http://imageshack.us/g/835/20120825234655.jpg/
145ty said:
I am on extremely slow hotel internet.. Takes me forever to do anything. I posted the pictures above but I don't think it worked.
Hope that works this time.
Also direct link: http://imageshack.us/g/835/20120825234655.jpg/
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* Hands 145ty a micro fiber cloth*
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I still feel like there may be some confusion about what to look at from the right side.
Hopefully the OP will find this rigmarole about how to check for screen lift helpful. If none of this is applicable, I'm sorry for derailing your thread.
Once again, here is a photo taken by a user named drewd.
We're checking the left, but we're looking at the unit from the right. We're looking at the left bezel (on the far side) to see if the screen is high enough at any point to block it from our sight.
The thin, silver line of the left bezel is intact, and the perspective is low enough to be accurate.
Now, here is a low quality photo of my own second unit. I took this picture for reference during a Google Support call.
It is a very bad camera, but you should be able to see the silver line of the left bezel along most of the far side. I've drawn a circle around the general area where the screen eclipses the bezel. The perspective is higher than drewd's photo because I wasn't trying to show that my screen is flush. His angle would be more convincing for that purpose.
The lift of my second unit was indeed minor, and it turned out to be the least separated of the three units I received. In hindsight, I might have kept it, but now I wait for news that this issue has been resolved.
Hopefully this clears things up.
When there's something wrong come with the device, well, the answer is definitely YES. Just send Google an email and they will tell you everything you need to do.
pxlitup said:
Cool.
Make sure you get a decent shot of the horizon test detailed earlier. Unless your tablet is really weird, the others are less important.
Edit: I can see your entire bezel from both the right and left portrait sides -- can't tell which is which. As far as I can tell, your screen looks fine.
What makes you think that there's lift?
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Very minor lift. You can see it on the pictures a bit, they basically look like a shadow/overcast. It is quite minimal, only reason I noticed was because of this forum. You can also tell if you do a fingernail test around the edges.
If you can even call it lift - its not over the bezel just raised a bit in comparison to the rest of the unit.
To be honest - it was a bit worse a few days ago before I tested it for squishiness and been going away with normal use.
Sure, why not replacing it? They will send you a new device and once you received it, just send your old
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hi first off i spoke with an admin and was told that it's fine to post my ideas.
So i thought i'd share my concept,
I made a thread a few months ago that got alot of negative feedback. I then made a thread showing my first ideas of concept but it wasn't in the right section, So i thought i'd post it here. Since then i have started making my own concept pictures of what i want the xperia z successor to look like.
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the xperia z as i have mentiond before is a master piece and i don't want sony to steer away from this, Being square minimalistic phone. The xperia z is basically my dream phone but i want some improvements so thats why i decided to make my own.
My own design idea would involve a sony developed oled screen, Stereo front speakers, Sony logo at the side not the front, Xperia logo much less sticking out placed in the corner. The camera in these pictures is just a placeholder. The onscreen menu buttons would be hidable with an easy swipe and fully customizable, Such as changing size icons placement (bottom top left or right) color, Since it's a oled screen you won't see that the buttons are part of the screen itself, So you can do alot with that like having a full keypad and a smaller screen to work on when for example in phone mode.
i also thought of a aluminium design instead of glass but i don't want it to be textured like the one in these pictures i want a solid matte black backside with no texture on it
lastly a xperia tablet z padfone concept that let's you dock the phone in a xperia tablet z battery/screen thats ofcourse also waterproof like the phone (i know aluminium might not work for a waterproof phone but it's just ideas)
then comes my "crazy" ideas that would be a tiny screen at the side of the phone instead of the sony logo showing for example the time or a extra oled slipout screen that would act as a gamepad just like the xperia play but instead of an actual pad just an extra screen
good job buddy
To be honest I find the speaker grills hideous. The back as well, an all aluminium casing wouldn't be nice I guess, at least not in matte. Just my opinion, though. And placing the Sony logo on the side would be awkward. The only thing I'd like to see on my XZ is the LED notification light of the ZL. But keep trying different stuff, everybody got their own taste. And as long you enjoy creating new concepts, keep doing so, regardless of what others might say or think.
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RoChinu said:
To be honest I find the speaker grills hideous. The back as well, an all aluminium casing wouldn't be nice I guess, at least not in matte. Just my opinion, though. And placing the Sony logo on the side would be awkward. The only thing I'd like to see on my XZ is the LED notification light of the ZL. But keep trying different stuff, everybody got their own taste. And as long you enjoy creating new concepts, keep doing so, regardless of what others might say or think.
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what kind of speaker grills would you prefer (i was thinking of swapping places with them so the bottom one is at the top and top one is at the bottom) as for the sony logo i think it would look nice at the side
and a completely black aluminium back like the htc one would also be nice in my opinion
this is an older concept i did
Good !
Now put sony Logo on bottom Grill of Speaker and make it like its Glowing when Phone on,and also make this Sony logo the Home Button,what do you think?
Xenone Flash on Back of the Phone.
jhony.liver said:
Good !
Now put sony Logo on bottom Grill of Speaker and make it like its Glowing when Phone on,and also make this Sony logo the Home Button,what do you think?
Xenone Flash on Back of the Phone.
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did you do this yourself? as it looks very nice though i would make the bottom bezel as thin as the top rgb sony logo would be nice
and it's nice to see that people somewhat like my design i expected it to be hated
as i like things many don't like
zzcool said:
did you do this yourself? as it looks very nice though i would make the bottom bezel as thin as the top rgb sony logo would be nice
and it's nice to see that people somewhat like my design i expected it to be hated
as i like things many don't like
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Yes Its my own created,
Actually Xperia Z design is very Impressive and Thin Bezel of Xperia Zl is Too Excellent, If Sony Remake both of them in One than it would be Superb ......... :silly:
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Yes Its my own created,
Actually Xperia Z design is very Impressive and Thin Bezel of Xperia Zl is Too Excellent, If Sony Remake both of them in One than it would be Superb ......... :silly:
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could you remake your design in the same square shape as the z and zl
then have extra thin bezels like the zl or thinner with stereo front speakers
here is my compact mode feature you drag the onscreen menu buttons out and it reveals a full sized keypad that stays untill you drag it down to onscreen buttons size
drag it further and hide it all completely
Needs branding on the front or back, a plain front is too iPhoneish, although my perfect device would be the same width and height dimensions of the 4S as a 5" screen is just a tad too big, because depending what you're doing you need both hands to use it.
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Needs branding on the front or back, a plain front is too iPhoneish, although my perfect device would be the same width and height dimensions of the 4S as a 5" screen is just a tad too big, because depending what you're doing you need both hands to use it.
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i do like the design of the iphone though just square and thinner bezels and it would be alot nicer
4.8 4.7 would probaböy be perfect 1080P
waterproof
with a metal charger dock the plastic dock i got with my xperia z just felt cheap compared to my xperia z
zzcool said:
i do like the design of the iphone though just square and thinner bezels and it would be alot nicer
4.8 4.7 would probaböy be perfect 1080P
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+1. What I'd like to see is an illuminated Sony logo, similar to my HX Bravia, but you could have it on the Phone so the front looks plain (the design would probably lead to a slight ghosting of the logo) until you turn on the screen.
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+1. What I'd like to see is an illuminated Sony logo, similar to my HX Bravia, but you could have it on the Phone so the front looks plain (the design would probably lead to a slight ghosting of the logo) until you turn on the screen.
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i'd love that too but maybe i want an empty front
side touch buttons arrow/home button to navigate the menus from touch sensitive side buttons at the side not at the front
someone also made a 3d render of my sidescreen idea i had it's fun seeing how my idea is now a 3d render
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someone also made a 3d render of my sidescreen idea i had it's fun seeing how my idea is now a 3d render
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That doesn't look bad, similar to the display on the MW600? But that render for me highlights why you need frontal branding, imo it looks like it could be any old Japanese import. Here's my tweak of your render...
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That doesn't look bad, similar to the display on the MW600? But that render for me highlights why you need frontal branding, imo it looks like it could be any old Japanese import. Here's my tweak of your render...
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i would add the sony logo but i honestly want it to be empty at the front with really thin bezels it being that much squared is abit too much though
i prefer it to how i made it very thin bezel and a big screen
though add the sony logo
original z is simply the most pretty smartphone i ever seen
design is absolutely perfect
the only minor things i would like to change are those ''trap'' for waterproof stuff
actually, adding an physical and designed button for camera would be nice and avoid any trap
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original z is simply the most pretty smartphone i ever seen
design is absolutely perfect
the only minor things i would like to change are those ''trap'' for waterproof stuff
actually, adding an physical and designed button for camera would be nice and avoid any trap
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yeah it is it's a shame about the hardware not being top end many removed their anti shatter films to make it empty at the front i also like a empty phone with no logos and completely black square
zzcool said:
i'd love that too but maybe i want an empty front
side touch buttons arrow/home button to navigate the menus from touch sensitive side buttons at the side not at the front
someone also made a 3d render of my sidescreen idea i had it's fun seeing how my idea is now a 3d render
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it reminds me LG Mini
zzcool said:
could you remake your design in the same square shape as the z and zl
then have extra thin bezels like the zl or thinner with stereo front speakers
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I try it as you said but don't know how much it fulfill...........Comment
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I try it as you said but don't know how much it fulfill...........Comment
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i like it but move the bottom sony logo down a mm or so
also can you change the shape to something more square? not alot just by 0.5% or so not as much as the 3d render i posted basically the shape of my design i posted the one with the extra thin bezels
this is starting to look great too me
i do like how you put the xperia logo at the bottom i had it in the corner but this looks nice too
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That doesn't look bad, similar to the display on the MW600? But that render for me highlights why you need frontal branding, imo it looks like it could be any old Japanese import. Here's my tweak of your render...
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I likes, but somehow I'm getting Déjà vus of other existing smartphones. I like the Xperia on the bottom and would be awesome if it was a led light! It's pretty nice and might consider buying such phone.
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We all know Z1 suffers from viewing angle is kind of pointless to compare its screen with Z2 when its is tilted
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I know the panel type of Z1 is brighter than everything else, I think that picture kind fo shows.
I've seen some other comparison photos... Straight on, they look almost identical. It's only when the Z1 becomes tilted you can then tell it's a... Z1. I know overall the Z2 screen is better, but didn't seem like a huge difference to me.
Some more pic with Z1 Compact:
well it's known that Z1 sucks at large angles, but look at the only two pictures when all three phones are viewed from zero angle, the Z1 has the best details and colors
The screen of the Z1 is fantastic, everyone knows of the Z1's crap viewing angles, that's why Sony fixed them on the Z2 obviously
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I don't know why the angles of the TFT are so important for somebody?
eclyptos said:
I don't know why the angles of the TFT are so important for somebody?
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another item in the "features list" like 2k resolution screen! nevermind the fact that you can't possible notice without a microscope the difference of it from FHD or even 720p screens...
saobang3886 said:
Some more pic with Z1 Compact:
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Looks like Z2 screen is really awesome! Thank you, Sony!
eclyptos said:
I don't know why the angles of the TFT are so important for somebody?
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Well, they matter, especially in some scenarios. Scenario 1: I'm sitting at my desktop with the phone in front, something comes up and I want to check it out without lifting the phone up. With the Z1, that's a problem, since things appear washed out, making it hard to make out some things sometimes. Scenario 2: when I'm in bed and have to do the same as above, that is looking at a notification or something without lifting the phone up. Scenario 3: you're trying to watch a video with someone on the same device, and at least one guy can have problems viewing it from the side. These aren't everyday scenarios, but they are present.
I totally understand that some people don't have a problem with viewing angles, but some of us do, and it's not just hipster-y excuses. My main issue is that Sony has been dawdling while viewing angles have been perfected by all other manufacturers since 2011/2012 (except LG on Nexus phones, they do need to work on it a tad more). Good to see the Z2 finally fixes that, and I hope it continues on future flagships as well. Also hope the glass on the back goes away and/or becomes less slippery, that's a huge issue with Sony's current phones, I'm too afraid to use my Z1 without a case, haha.
addicted2088 said:
Well, they matter, especially in some scenarios. Scenario 1: I'm sitting at my desktop with the phone in front, something comes up and I want to check it out without lifting the phone up. With the Z1, that's a problem, since things appear washed out, making it hard to make out some things sometimes. Scenario 2: when I'm in bed and have to do the same as above, that is looking at a notification or something without lifting the phone up. Scenario 3: you're trying to watch a video with someone on the same device, and at least one guy can have problems viewing it from the side. These aren't everyday scenarios, but they are present.
I totally understand that some people don't have a problem with viewing angles, but some of us do, and it's not just hipster-y excuses. My main issue is that Sony has been dawdling while viewing angles have been perfected by all other manufacturers since 2011/2012 (except LG on Nexus phones, they do need to work on it a tad more). Good to see the Z2 finally fixes that, and I hope it continues on future flagships as well. Also hope the glass on the back goes away and/or becomes less slippery, that's a huge issue with Sony's current phones, I'm too afraid to use my Z1 without a case, haha.
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well those were the bad points of the XZ, i agree with your scenarios, but it's excatly those points which i feel are just fine with the z1.
i wated a dozen movies on my z1 with my GF and niether of us noticed any washing, it just looks splendid, and while on the table it does seem a bit washed out, but not in a waythat makes it difficult to read the screen...
on the old XZ it was a problem... but with Z1 it's good enough. and splendid when you look at it from the front...
Ok then! Z1 is positive for me because if somebody is next to me he can't see or read what I am doing or writing, specially if I sending messages to his girlfriend!..hahaha...
eclyptos said:
Ok then! Z1 is positive for me because if somebody is next to me he can't see or read what I am doing or writing, specially if I sending messages to his girlfriend!..hahaha...
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Actually, the poor viewing angles do come in handy in that way sometimes, but it's not something I generally need, haha.
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shteren said:
well those were the bad points of the XZ, i agree with your scenarios, but it's excatly those points which i feel are just fine with the z1.
i wated a dozen movies on my z1 with my GF and niether of us noticed any washing, it just looks splendid, and while on the table it does seem a bit washed out, but not in a waythat makes it difficult to read the screen...
on the old XZ it was a problem... but with Z1 it's good enough. and splendid when you look at it from the front...
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The thing with me is that I've used phones with great displays recently, so with the Z1 I only notice the bad sides, hehe. It does look good when looked at from the front, but again, it doesn't impress me after using those other phones.
I actually see the viewing angles as a plus. Means friends can't see as easily what I'm doing on my phone if they're trying to peak.
No downside to it eithe really, not like I hold my phone in a tilting position.
My viewing angles arent great either but people can still read what im doing from most angles so no privacy there
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Was I the only one to think the Z1 actually looks better than both the Compact and the Z2?
Im more than satisfied with the screen on the 1. Personally i see no reason at all to upgrade to 2. 100 more Mhz, bigger screen which is better for a media center phone and 1gb more POINTLESS ram, whats so good to justify buying a new phone?
Should the Z2 came with things like smart camera usage or touch pressure sensitivity or be able to read finger while hovering -but not- touching the screen, id call that a big syep forward for Sony. Atm it offers features that feel 10 years old compared to Samsung's technologie.
Honestly, my curiosity is that, Z2 adopted better screen like IPS with better views angles. It has bigger battery, 3200 instead of 3000, and 2.3 ghz instead 2.2, so let's use some down cloccking App to put 2.3ghz to 2.2, at the end it will be perfectly the same as Z1, BUT, with latest Screen on Z2 it will consume less energy than Z1? So if I get 5 hours on Screen with Z1 how long I will get on Z2? 5,2 inces don't make such a difference anyway...so any Idea?
We need to wait for proper testing to see if the small increase in battery actually improves battery life, keeps it about the same (given the faster CPU/GPU, bigger screen etc), or actually makes it slightly worse.
Personally I don't think there's going to be much difference.
so considering my first attempt at a concept didn't go too well i thought i'd try again as i was at the time on a vacation being limited to what i could post
first the z3
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second the z3 cybershot it's my take on samsungs k zoom i was unsure how thick it had to be untill i saw the k zoom
Many did not like the thin bezels saying it would be impossible to hold but, i had an idea for this i call virtual bezels the phone itself would use a JDI developed OLED panel with white magic, the beauty with oled is that when the screen shows black it's off, so my idea is simple to add dead space too the screen when you choose, for example flip the phone in landscape and you get a special amount of dead space of your choosing, since it's oled it would look exactly the same as a physical bezel as the screen would be off where the deadspace is, my idea is simple to have a intelligent virtual bezel that changes itself after your preference, in potrait the bezel could be very thin as you don't technically need bezel to hold a phone properly,but in landscape the black deadspace could be more so you can hold the phone properly, when you want to watch a movie having it standing in it's dock or something you could fill the entire screen with the movie, the dead space would be controlled by a seperate chip to avoid any glitches through android.
the screen itself would pretty much be edge to edge many did not like this one
and i agree it's not pretty, but it's the same exact phone as the one above, as you can see the sony logo is glowing the notification icons are next too it thats because thats part of the screen, if you don't like having it like this then simply open the settings menu drag a slider and adjust how much screen space you want, so think of this virtual bezel idea as the black classic android softkeys but without any buttons just a black border, since it's oled this black border would be completely off.
it is very hard to explain my virtual bezel idea without actually showing it, think of the xperia z1 for example magically extending it's screen across the bezels.
my second idea is a light stripe all around the phone, i want this light stripe to be very advanced to be able to show color gradient, i like flashing lights but i don't want them to ruin the design of the phone, so the idea is that this light stripe should replace the plastic frame the z series phones have for antenna reception when the light is off it would be completely invisible, ofcourse i am not sure if a light like this is even possible but it's an idea nonetheless.
zzcool said:
so considering my first attempt at a concept didn't go too well i thought i'd try again as i was at the time on a vacation being limited to what i could post
first the z3
second the z3 cybershot it's my take on samsungs k zoom i was unsure how thick it had to be untill i saw the k zoom
Many did not like the thin bezels saying it would be impossible to hold but, i had an idea for this i call virtual bezels the phone itself would use a JDI developed OLED panel with white magic, the beauty with oled is that when the screen shows black it's off, so my idea is simple to add dead space too the screen when you choose, for example flip the phone in landscape and you get a special amount of dead space of your choosing, since it's oled it would look exactly the same as a physical bezel as the screen would be off where the deadspace is, my idea is simple to have a intelligent virtual bezel that changes itself after your preference, in potrait the bezel could be very thin as you don't technically need bezel to hold a phone properly,but in landscape the black deadspace could be more so you can hold the phone properly, when you want to watch a movie having it standing in it's dock or something you could fill the entire screen with the movie, the dead space would be controlled by a seperate chip to avoid any glitches through android.
the screen itself would pretty much be edge to edge many did not like this one
and i agree it's not pretty, but it's the same exact phone as the one above, as you can see the sony logo is glowing the notification icons are next too it thats because thats part of the screen, if you don't like having it like this then simply open the settings menu drag a slider and adjust how much screen space you want, so think of this virtual bezel idea as the black classic android softkeys but without any buttons just a black border, since it's oled this black border would be completely off.
it is very hard to explain my virtual bezel idea without actually showing it, think of the xperia z1 for example magically extending it's screen across the bezels.
my second idea is a light stripe all around the phone, i want this light stripe to be very advanced to be able to show color gradient, i like flashing lights but i don't want them to ruin the design of the phone, so the idea is that this light stripe should replace the plastic frame the z series phones have for antenna reception when the light is off it would be completely invisible, ofcourse i am not sure if a light like this is even possible but it's an idea nonetheless.
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i sure like it bro..the bezel less looks much better but almost all people want to protect their phone from falls by keeping large bezels that i hate ...i appreciate your hard work bro..
unmaskedfalesh said:
i sure like it bro..the bezel less looks much better but almost all people want to protect their phone from falls by keeping large bezels that i hate ...i appreciate your hard work bro..
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thankyou it seems it's very difficult to have concepts liked here
i also did a razer phone and i want to move that design to my sony concepts
and here was a more square version that people didn't like but i personally like just maybe get rid of that thick frame thing
you can give for me wallpaper pict galaxy first
zzcool said:
so considering my first attempt at a concept didn't go too well i thought i'd try again as i was at the time on a vacation being limited to what i could post
first the z3
second the z3 cybershot it's my take on samsungs k zoom i was unsure how thick it had to be untill i saw the k zoom
Many did not like the thin bezels saying it would be impossible to hold but, i had an idea for this i call virtual bezels the phone itself would use a JDI developed OLED panel with white magic, the beauty with oled is that when the screen shows black it's off, so my idea is simple to add dead space too the screen when you choose, for example flip the phone in landscape and you get a special amount of dead space of your choosing, since it's oled it would look exactly the same as a physical bezel as the screen would be off where the deadspace is, my idea is simple to have a intelligent virtual bezel that changes itself after your preference, in potrait the bezel could be very thin as you don't technically need bezel to hold a phone properly,but in landscape the black deadspace could be more so you can hold the phone properly, when you want to watch a movie having it standing in it's dock or something you could fill the entire screen with the movie, the dead space would be controlled by a seperate chip to avoid any glitches through android.
the screen itself would pretty much be edge to edge many did not like this one
and i agree it's not pretty, but it's the same exact phone as the one above, as you can see the sony logo is glowing the notification icons are next too it thats because thats part of the screen, if you don't like having it like this then simply open the settings menu drag a slider and adjust how much screen space you want, so think of this virtual bezel idea as the black classic android softkeys but without any buttons just a black border, since it's oled this black border would be completely off.
it is very hard to explain my virtual bezel idea without actually showing it, think of the xperia z1 for example magically extending it's screen across the bezels.
my second idea is a light stripe all around the phone, i want this light stripe to be very advanced to be able to show color gradient, i like flashing lights but i don't want them to ruin the design of the phone, so the idea is that this light stripe should replace the plastic frame the z series phones have for antenna reception when the light is off it would be completely invisible, ofcourse i am not sure if a light like this is even possible but it's an idea nonetheless.
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you can give for me wallpaper pict galaxy first. i like it
trongvosong said:
you can give for me wallpaper pict galaxy first. i like it
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it's a live wallpaper called galaxy pack one of the best live wallpapers you can buy in my opinion
zzcool said:
it's a live wallpaper called galaxy pack one of the best live wallpapers you can buy in my opinion
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oh i buy your apps on playstore, but i want wallpaper, i dont like live wallpaper ?? you can help me ??
zzcool said:
it's a live wallpaper called galaxy pack one of the best live wallpapers you can buy in my opinion
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you can help me , how take stock wallpaper from "live wallpaper" ??