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Is there, or will there be a way to use google wallet on the non sprint S3s? With or without root or rom?
There has to be some info on this out there. Is Google Wallet just a gimmick or will this really take off? If so I would think AT$T and Verizon being bigger providers than Sprint, there would have to be the ability to get these to work with it.
wiz4769 said:
There has to be some info on this out there. Is Google Wallet just a gimmick or will this really take off? If so I would think AT$T and Verizon being bigger providers than Sprint, there would have to be the ability to get these to work with it.
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there is info on this, if you search.
wallet is only support officially by sprint. the rest of the carriers you will have to find the modded apk for wallet.
(also, i hit the thanks button accidentally instead of 'quote' on your post, so free thanks for you!)
I searched, but anything that comes up is about Sprint having it and AT&T not...But at least I know that it will be possible at some point.
The question is if the At&t version has a secure element. If it doesn't, then there is no chance.
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How do we go about finding something like that out? If they are wanting their version of the s3 to work with some other "google wallet" type system, it would seem it would have all the same requirements. I dont see them killing the ability completely, just had the software side removed. But who knows what these guys will do these days.
Att is developing their own system with some other carriers called ISIS. Probably not a chance to get Google wallet working on the att version.
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wiz4769 said:
Is there, or will there be a way to use google wallet on the non sprint S3s? With or without root or rom?
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I would try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1365360
EDIT: That only works on rooted devices, my bad
Having to root it is not a big deal, I just wanted to know it was possible to use it if the need came up. Right now I dont think NFC payments are big enough to consider a must have, but if the day comes that 8 of 10 shops use some sort of nfc payment system it will change my mind for sure. I just like to know that I can do something. Im sorta waiting to root as well Its running like a champ and everything that i use daily is working without a root. Once a nice easy one click is out that will not trip the counter I will go for it, or if some app or ability that I just have to use requires it. But just enjoying the phone for now as is
I am rooted still doesn't work on i747 just hangs on activating
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Maybe now that so many are getting this phone we will see some work being done to figure this out.
to get it to work you will need to fudge the phone into thinking it's connected with Sprint using Market Enabler or equivalent. That's I had to do on my G Nexus in canada.
so, for some reason, i installed it, it loads but i get this message, and just stopps.
"Initializing your device. this make take a few min...... blahh blahh.. "
thats it..
Worked for me on Canadian sgs3...
I'll try post instructions for it tomorrow evening.
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I switched to verizon from sprint and my gs3. Sprint's service sucked, but the GS3 was awesome... I like the battery life of the maxx hd, however. One thing I cannot stand is Verizon's (probably) illegal blocking of apps like Google Wallet. On Sprint, I used Google Wallet frequently. That brings me to the point of this post:
I am starting a bounty for the first person that is able to provide instructions/code/apk/something that allows me to install Google Wallet on my rooted Verizon RAZR MAXX HD non developer edition phone running the verizon JB leak and successfully complete an NFC transaction. The transaction test will be done at a business that works perfectly with sprint phones, in order to keep it fair.
Bounty: $20. I know it isn't a lot, but I am hoping others will chip in as well. My portion of the bounty will be paid via paypal.
I've tried sideloading the apk, installing it as a system app, installing a modified apk, trying market enabler, etc, etc. I am willing to follow your instructions but please have it working for yourself before you send me something if you want to collect the bounty.
have you tried flashing the modified Google wallet apk from here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1769083
It worked on my s3 when my carrier didn't support gw.
I don't actually have an hd yet, picking one up black Friday, once I have one I'll be working on this.
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Thatoneguy. said:
have you tried flashing the modified Google wallet apk from here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1769083
It worked on my s3 when my carrier didn't support gw.
I don't actually have an hd yet, picking one up black Friday, once I have one I'll be working on this.
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Yea, that was one of the first things I tried... I had high hopes for that method too.
I've also tried the method from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1810282 which didn't work for me.
I'll put up another $20 in the bounty.
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I am willing to put 50 to get Wallet working on my RAZR HD without having to mess with my bootloader. 100 if its fairly easy to install. A.k.a. noob proof.
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You need to realize there will never be an easy way to get Google Wallet on your phone. Part of the setup process even with hacked apks is on Google's servers that check the phone model. Only way around this is to edit your build prop which requires root. Its not easy and will never be unless Google wants it to be. Just fyi
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mobilehavoc said:
You need to realize there will never be an easy way to get Google Wallet on your phone. Part of the setup process even with hacked apks is on Google's servers that check the phone model. Only way around this is to edit your build prop which requires root. Its not easy and will never be unless Google wants it to be. Just fyi
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Maybe things have changed, but when my carriers s3 wasn't supported, I just changed the phone model in build prop, installed the apk in system, rebooted, set up Google wallet, then reverted to my original build prop and everything was good to go.
Once it was registered the phone model didn't matter.
Or maybe not, Maybe they've updated their security protocol since then.
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So i posted about our dilemma to the dev who originally got it working in the s3 thread, this is his response
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I would need a razr to test things... or someone very good with adb to give me the no I need.
Who knows, may or may not be posible
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Anyone familiar with adb and have an hd right now willing to work with him?
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Thread Closed:
Threads like this are really against what XDA stands for and is for. Should the developer have a donate button, that's okay, but to pay someone to do it won't be allowed.
Hi, I'm new to the LG brand of phones, but I've had just about ever other brand. I wanted to know if LG phones have been able to use Google Wallet, and if someone can test Google Wallet on a VZW G2. I'm thinking about picking it up as my upgrade soon, but also was considering the GS4 since I know I can get wallet to function on that easily. Obviously I know information on this at this point is going to be scarce, but I hope someone can shed some light on this for me!
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I wanted to know if LG phones have been able to use Google Wallet, and if someone can test Google Wallet on a VZW G2.
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I tried to load google wallet yesterday with no success. ISIS wallet installed fine but would not work with my older SIM w/o NFC security element
So it would not install for you ?
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bb12489 said:
Hi, I'm new to the LG brand of phones, but I've had just about ever other brand. I wanted to know if LG phones have been able to use Google Wallet, and if someone can test Google Wallet on a VZW G2. I'm thinking about picking it up as my upgrade soon, but also was considering the GS4 since I know I can get wallet to function on that easily. Obviously I know information on this at this point is going to be scarce, but I hope someone can shed some light on this for me!
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google wallet is not supported/blocked by Verizon, they want you to use ISIS
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google wallet is not supported/blocked by Verizon, they want you to use ISIS
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I understand this. Its the same story for all other VZW phones. Except the GS4 can use it just fine so long as you have root and the MoDaCo Toolkit. Granted the GS4 has a secure element which Google Wallet requires. My main question is I guess.... does the G2 have an onboard secure element? ISIS require a secure element Sim card to use. Google Wallet only looks for an internal one.
Now that we have root for all variants of the G2, can someone test this out? The directions from this thread should help out a bit. Although this is all assuming that the G2's firmware has the required Libs as well.
I would appreciate it very much if someone could test this!
How about At&T version of G2 ? Anybody tryed yet?
Google wallet says not compatible on at&t, and Isis will not run if u are rooted...
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The G2 is designed for ISIS and not supported by Google Wallet in the US.
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Google needs to end the block. It's eliminating competition by blocking Google wallet.
ISIS can actually run on rooted roms now. Search it up. People have been running it on the Droid DNA for a bit now. Google isn't the one who is blocking Wallet by choice. Verizon, AT&T, & T-mobile are all on the ISIS bandwagon, and do not allow Google Wallet to run on their network officially . Normally you should be able to use any legal software on your carrier according to the FCC, but Verizon is actually getting around this by not including secure elements in phones but instead moving the secure element to the SIM card which Google Wallet does not check at the moment.
Since I don't have a G2 yet, I can't test the things I would like to. The thread I linked to previously here should give some instructions on how to install Google Wallet from the Play Store and see if it functions. Like i said we may need some lib files though from a Sprint variant. Usually Sprint is the only carrier to support Google Wallet on their devices. Ultimately the VZW G2 may not have an on-board secure element, and we may just be stuck using ISIS unless Google codes Wallet to look for an external SIM SE.
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So it would not install for you ?
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Nope, Google wallet would not install and ISIS would not activate since my SIM did not have the NFC security element.
I tried closed framework and every module I could find, but couldn't get Google wallet to install, nor Isis to get past the root block. any ideas?
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I tried closed framework and every module I could find, but couldn't get Google wallet to install, nor Isis to get past the root block. any ideas?
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Try this module with xposed framework. It's worked for me in the past to get Wallet installed from the market on my Droid DNA. You need to edit your build.prop though to match a supported device like the Nexus 4/Galaxy Nexus. MoDaCo Toolkit module has a nice build.prop edit section you can use.
Once you get it installed, don't change the build.prop back until you go through the wallet setup (if it even launches)
From what I'm reading from you guys here, it seems that even installing wallet is a challenge! I always thought that was the easy part lol. The hard part is dealing with if it actually functions or not :/
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Try this module with xposed framework. It's worked for me in the past to get Wallet installed from the market on my Droid DNA. You need to edit your build.prop though to match a supported device like the Nexus 4/Galaxy Nexus. MoDaCo Toolkit module has a nice build.prop edit section you can use.
Once you get it installed, don't change the build.prop back until you go through the wallet setup (if it even launches)
From what I'm reading from you guys here, it seems that even installing wallet is a challenge! I always thought that was the easy part lol. The hard part is dealing with if it actually functions or not :/
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Nah the Google wallet installer will not run on unsupported devices (a la the build.prop changes) with or without the module. Same deal on most other phones that aren't explicitly a nexus. Do you have a list of what I need to change the build.prop to to allow install? I'll give it another try. But I bet the "secure element" being in the Sim will put the kabosh on all of this anyways. ****ing Verizon.. man.
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Nah the Google wallet installer will not run on unsupported devices (a la the build.prop changes) with or without the module. Same deal on most other phones that aren't explicitly a nexus. Do you have a list of what I need to change the build.prop to to allow install? I'll give it another try. But I bet the "secure element" being in the Sim will put the kabosh on all of this anyways. ****ing Verizon.. man.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1862839
Google is releasing the Wallet app to all devices 4.2 and up. Not sure what this means for evryone, but it is a hopeful sign.
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Nah the Google wallet installer will not run on unsupported devices (a la the build.prop changes) with or without the module. Same deal on most other phones that aren't explicitly a nexus. Do you have a list of what I need to change the build.prop to to allow install? I'll give it another try. But I bet the "secure element" being in the Sim will put the kabosh on all of this anyways. ****ing Verizon.. man.
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ok, I did the build.prop changes, and am running that module. No go still. "Application not installed"
Where does the APK go after an install and what permissions? I'm going to try to sideload.
Google wallet
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Google is releasing the Wallet app to all devices 4.2 and up. Not sure what this means for evryone, but it is a hopeful sign.
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I just installed Google wallet from the play store with no issues. Verizon G2, rooted. Wallet APK Version 2.0-R133V9-Release. :good:
Hope this is a good sign.
joerogo said:
I just installed Google wallet from the play store with no issues. Verizon G2, rooted. Wallet APK Version 2.0-R133V9-Release. :good:
Hope this is a good sign.
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I can see the wallet app but it 'isnt compatible with my device' from the store.
I did, however, order an NFC Secure Element SIM and got it today, and set up my ISIS... but it only accepts American Express and Chase (not VISA) so I can't test it out.
It does work though (loads at least).
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I can see the wallet app but it 'isnt compatible with my device' from the store.
I did, however, order an NFC Secure Element SIM and got it today, and set up my ISIS... but it only accepts American Express and Chase (not VISA) so I can't test it out.
It does work though (loads at least).
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OK, apparently GWallet updated today and it just hasn't rolled out to all devices. If you get the compatibility issue it just hasn't rolled out to you.
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I just installed Google wallet from the play store with no issues. Verizon G2, rooted. Wallet APK Version 2.0-R133V9-Release. :good:
Hope this is a good sign.
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The new APK does install and work, aside from Tap to Pay. Says "Not available". So we still need some new method of getting out Secure Element Sims supported. if that's possible. My SE sim should be here on thursday. I'll do some digging.
Ok so it seems quite a few people are still interested in getting this working, so, lets pool out resources and experiences and see if we can make it happen.
this is basically a repeat of the discussion og this so are on another thread but it was kinda off topic so i started this one.
so this has been the evolution of what ive tryed so far, pretty basic i know, but that why im here to bring people more talented then myself to the table....
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this will side load without root, and will open but give and carrier error and force closes if left installed of the GW versions ive try this is the only only one that installs with out anything extra.
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so after root was acheived (by jcase) i installed the xposed frame work here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574401 and wallet mod here: http://www.modaco.com/topic/354635-xmod-region-device-root-patched-google-wallet/ i was playing with something else, DL the app from this thread: http://androidforums.com/lg-optimus-elite/644930-custom-boot-animation-sound-without-root.html It asked me to DL another app that installed aditional shared libraries and now one more of the wallet apks will install. and now this verison will install where it previously would not.
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i believe this is the newest version, but it wont install
Reference Material
other good GW resources here:
(most of this is useless untill we get access to /system and/or safestrap)
GW for Galaxy S4:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2303325
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2400143
GW for HTC One:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2395719
GW for Spring Moto X:
NOTHING YET, BUT IM SURE THE KEY TO THIS WILL BE HERE (if there is one)
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tried restoring the titanium backup from my gnex to the MAXX, but it just hangs on direct and indirect mode, probably would still have the library issue even if it worked.
Attached is the output from the manifest XML, hopefully it has clues. A dump from a sprint moto X might help I heard theirs works.
i think i found the missing library, ill need to see a moto x system dump to confirm it is the one but from a discussion i found at code,google, this has occured with other apps and it was recommended that a certain jar file library missing may be the cause. now this was about and different library and app so the specifics dont apply here. but the nexus 4, s4 gpe, htc one gpe, all have a file in system/framework titled "com.android.nfc_extras" this file is not present on the vzw moto, droid maxx, razr hd, and im sure many others. i tried copying the this file (from nesux 4) and its odex partner to system/framework on my razr hd and i got a soft brick/bootloop at reboot. so the way i see there are a few possiblities why, the file came from 4.2 hd is running 4.1 or n4 is just to different from the hd to use the same file. but this same idea may work from a sprint moto x to a vzw moto x and maybe even the droids.
Awesome, I know that what we are missing is certainly on a sprint x. Google specifically. Lists the sprint and us cellular versions as compatible.
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i think i found the missing library, ill need to see a moto x system dump to confirm it is the one but from a discussion i found at code,google, this has occured with other apps and it was recommended that a certain jar file library missing may be the cause. now this was about and different library and app so the specifics dont apply here. but the nexus 4, s4 gpe, htc one gpe, all have a file in system/framework titled "com.android.nfc_extras" this file is not present on the vzw moto, droid maxx, razr hd, and im sure many others. i tried copying the this file (from nesux 4) and its odex partner to system/framework on my razr hd and i got a soft brick/bootloop at reboot. so the way i see there are a few possiblities why, the file came from 4.2 hd is running 4.1 or n4 is just to different from the hd to use the same file. but this same idea may work from a sprint moto x to a vzw moto x and maybe even the droids.
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Some progress over here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45571533&postcount=27
That's exactly where I'm stalled we need the sprint moto x dump and root without write protection
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Sprint users must have just given up.
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Even with all the libs it still won't work as we are missing the secure element.
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Even with all the libs it still won't work as we are missing the secure element.
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i havent been able to get jack for solid info on what the "secure element" really is, hardware software both. idk, we need some good developers to input some real detailed info here
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i havent been able to get jack for solid info on what the "secure element" really is, hardware software both. idk, we need some good developers to input some real detailed info here
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It's a combo. Vz started distributing a secure Sim card, which one had to order through the vz site. I don't see the option in my Verizon, so maybe we already have a secure Sim or maybe it's not yet available. This might take a while to do. More likely we'll have Isis ruining before. How this help a lil.
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I posted this in the ISIS thread, but has anyone tried this yet?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2044362
my Maxx gets here later this week, but that was what I planned on using it. I tried it on several ROM's on my GNexus and it worked every time
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It's a combo. Vz started distributing a secure Sim card, which one had to order through the vz site. I don't see the option in my Verizon, so maybe we already have a secure Sim or maybe it's not yet available. This might take a while to do. More likely we'll have Isis ruining before. How this help a lil.
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yes all vzws new nano sims are nfc secure element sim cards, but this is a new concept, and it is still just a sim card so that leads me to believe that the secure element embedded in the sim is simply software just writen to the sim.
another thing thats confusing is and hardware on the moto x is identical to the droids yet the moto x on sprint supports google wallet. google walet dose not support sim based SE's so therefore one of two things is possible
a) there is a physical SE chip on all moto x's and the carriers have it disabled.
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b) its pure software and the carriers have it disabled
so unless someone dose a teardown on a sprint moto x and finds an extra piece of hardware im inclined to believe that the "Secure Element" is soft ware that is hidden in the device somewhere. maybe in the kernel so it can manage comunication bettween the ui and the nfc hardware. i really dont know that why before there can be an intelligent discussion of how to/if it can be hacked. what actually needs to happen. we need a HIGHLY detailed decription of what EXACTLY a "Secure Element" is as defind by what google wallet is looking of.
i dont think isis and SE sims will be realivent to google wallet, apples and oranges
The SE spec allows smart card emulation on the firmware and in the uicc on the Sim card by the carrier. The hardware is I denticle. This is possible from that perspective.
http://nelenkov.blogspot.nl/2012/08/accessing-embedded-secure-element-in.html?m=1
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The SE spec allows smart card emulation on the firmware and in the uicc on the Sim card by the carrier. The hardware is I denticle. This is possible from that perspective.
http://nelenkov.blogspot.nl/2012/08/accessing-embedded-secure-element-in.html?m=1
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I used ISIS on my new MAXX yesterday for the first time! Love the idea of storing my CC's on my phone.
Did not need any special SIM card so it must be incorperated into the new phones automatically.
Would love to get Google Wallet working on the MAXX, any ideas?
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The SE spec allows smart card emulation on the firmware and in the uicc on the Sim card by the carrier. The hardware is I denticle. This is possible from that perspective.
http://nelenkov.blogspot.nl/2012/08/accessing-embedded-secure-element-in.html?m=1
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Kool so what we need is a skilled Dev to get a SE ported form the sprint moto x and were in bis
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Is anyone aware of VZW Note 3 solution that allow Google Wallet's tap and pay to work? Searched high and low and came up empty.
Do not want to go the Isis.
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as of now, no. Ive' tried the workarounds given in the Galaxy S4 forums to no avail
Does isis work? I tried searching for it in the play store but couldn't find it.
ISIS does work, and the 2.0 update has made the app a lot more usable. If you pair it with an AMEX Serve card, and set the Serve card up so that it's funded directly from another credit card, it can work almost as well as Google Wallet. Plus, the Jamba Juice million smoothie promo is worth the price of entry by itself. If the app's not showing up on the Play Store, this thread has it (you can ignore the Xposed stuff if you're not rooted, but it's also a nice guide on how to get ISIS working if you are rooted): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2482708
However, I second the OP's question, as I would much prefer to use Google Wallet over ISIS. As I understand it, there's a snag in fixing the NFC Libs, and this thread details the current state of the attempts to get tap-to-pay working on the phone: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2476093
Hopefully we'll see some progress soon. Meanwhile, ISIS isn't a...terrible alternative, in its current iteration. It's just not as good as Wallet by any stretch of the imagination.
I don't believe there is anyway to get it to work right now because of a secure element in the sim, but from what I understand if/when we get 4.4 it should be good to go.
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