Is there, or will there be a way to use google wallet on the non sprint S3s? With or without root or rom?
There has to be some info on this out there. Is Google Wallet just a gimmick or will this really take off? If so I would think AT$T and Verizon being bigger providers than Sprint, there would have to be the ability to get these to work with it.
wiz4769 said:
There has to be some info on this out there. Is Google Wallet just a gimmick or will this really take off? If so I would think AT$T and Verizon being bigger providers than Sprint, there would have to be the ability to get these to work with it.
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there is info on this, if you search.
wallet is only support officially by sprint. the rest of the carriers you will have to find the modded apk for wallet.
(also, i hit the thanks button accidentally instead of 'quote' on your post, so free thanks for you!)
I searched, but anything that comes up is about Sprint having it and AT&T not...But at least I know that it will be possible at some point.
The question is if the At&t version has a secure element. If it doesn't, then there is no chance.
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How do we go about finding something like that out? If they are wanting their version of the s3 to work with some other "google wallet" type system, it would seem it would have all the same requirements. I dont see them killing the ability completely, just had the software side removed. But who knows what these guys will do these days.
Att is developing their own system with some other carriers called ISIS. Probably not a chance to get Google wallet working on the att version.
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wiz4769 said:
Is there, or will there be a way to use google wallet on the non sprint S3s? With or without root or rom?
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I would try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1365360
EDIT: That only works on rooted devices, my bad
Having to root it is not a big deal, I just wanted to know it was possible to use it if the need came up. Right now I dont think NFC payments are big enough to consider a must have, but if the day comes that 8 of 10 shops use some sort of nfc payment system it will change my mind for sure. I just like to know that I can do something. Im sorta waiting to root as well Its running like a champ and everything that i use daily is working without a root. Once a nice easy one click is out that will not trip the counter I will go for it, or if some app or ability that I just have to use requires it. But just enjoying the phone for now as is
I am rooted still doesn't work on i747 just hangs on activating
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Maybe now that so many are getting this phone we will see some work being done to figure this out.
to get it to work you will need to fudge the phone into thinking it's connected with Sprint using Market Enabler or equivalent. That's I had to do on my G Nexus in canada.
so, for some reason, i installed it, it loads but i get this message, and just stopps.
"Initializing your device. this make take a few min...... blahh blahh.. "
thats it..
Worked for me on Canadian sgs3...
I'll try post instructions for it tomorrow evening.
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I switched to verizon from sprint and my gs3. Sprint's service sucked, but the GS3 was awesome... I like the battery life of the maxx hd, however. One thing I cannot stand is Verizon's (probably) illegal blocking of apps like Google Wallet. On Sprint, I used Google Wallet frequently. That brings me to the point of this post:
I am starting a bounty for the first person that is able to provide instructions/code/apk/something that allows me to install Google Wallet on my rooted Verizon RAZR MAXX HD non developer edition phone running the verizon JB leak and successfully complete an NFC transaction. The transaction test will be done at a business that works perfectly with sprint phones, in order to keep it fair.
Bounty: $20. I know it isn't a lot, but I am hoping others will chip in as well. My portion of the bounty will be paid via paypal.
I've tried sideloading the apk, installing it as a system app, installing a modified apk, trying market enabler, etc, etc. I am willing to follow your instructions but please have it working for yourself before you send me something if you want to collect the bounty.
have you tried flashing the modified Google wallet apk from here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1769083
It worked on my s3 when my carrier didn't support gw.
I don't actually have an hd yet, picking one up black Friday, once I have one I'll be working on this.
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Thatoneguy. said:
have you tried flashing the modified Google wallet apk from here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1769083
It worked on my s3 when my carrier didn't support gw.
I don't actually have an hd yet, picking one up black Friday, once I have one I'll be working on this.
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Yea, that was one of the first things I tried... I had high hopes for that method too.
I've also tried the method from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1810282 which didn't work for me.
I'll put up another $20 in the bounty.
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I am willing to put 50 to get Wallet working on my RAZR HD without having to mess with my bootloader. 100 if its fairly easy to install. A.k.a. noob proof.
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You need to realize there will never be an easy way to get Google Wallet on your phone. Part of the setup process even with hacked apks is on Google's servers that check the phone model. Only way around this is to edit your build prop which requires root. Its not easy and will never be unless Google wants it to be. Just fyi
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You need to realize there will never be an easy way to get Google Wallet on your phone. Part of the setup process even with hacked apks is on Google's servers that check the phone model. Only way around this is to edit your build prop which requires root. Its not easy and will never be unless Google wants it to be. Just fyi
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Maybe things have changed, but when my carriers s3 wasn't supported, I just changed the phone model in build prop, installed the apk in system, rebooted, set up Google wallet, then reverted to my original build prop and everything was good to go.
Once it was registered the phone model didn't matter.
Or maybe not, Maybe they've updated their security protocol since then.
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So i posted about our dilemma to the dev who originally got it working in the s3 thread, this is his response
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I would need a razr to test things... or someone very good with adb to give me the no I need.
Who knows, may or may not be posible
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Anyone familiar with adb and have an hd right now willing to work with him?
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Thread Closed:
Threads like this are really against what XDA stands for and is for. Should the developer have a donate button, that's okay, but to pay someone to do it won't be allowed.
This is my first time having an NFC device, so please bear with me. I rooted my phone the evening I received it. Now I'm trying to set up Google Wallet, and it says that my device is unsupported. In the help topic regarding this message, it mentions something about rooted devices being unsupported due to security reasons, can I still use this feature? Is it discouraged in any way?
If anybody has some insight or experience with this, I'd like to know.
I have the evo lte rooted with same unsupported device message, yes it will still work
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This is my first time having an NFC device, so please bear with me. I rooted my phone the evening I received it. Now I'm trying to set up Google Wallet, and it says that my device is unsupported. In the help topic regarding this message, it mentions something about rooted devices being unsupported due to security reasons, can I still use this feature? Is it discouraged in any way?
If anybody has some insight or experience with this, I'd like to know.
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The reason it is discouraged is because anyone (with the now-how) can brute-force access your pin if your phone is rooted. And then skip away making payments on goodies.
What would be the chances of someone getting that close to you, they would have to be pretty much hugging you
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What would be the chances of someone getting that close to you, they would have to be pretty much hugging you
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oh hey josh nice phone come here a sec *hugs* now stay like this for about 5 minutes kthx.
Well seems about as secure as having somebody run off with your actual wallet... So off-topic but where are the places where I can actually use Google Wallet >_>
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Well seems about as secure as having somebody run off with your actual wallet... So off-topic but where are the places where I can actually use Google Wallet >_>
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Any place that has tap-to-pay or pay-pass features (forgot what the actual name is). I've seen it at McDonald's, CVS/Walgreens, Best Buy, and a few other large chains around town.
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Well seems about as secure as having somebody run off with your actual wallet... So off-topic but where are the places where I can actually use Google Wallet >_>
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Plenty of you fly to Japan and China, they have been using it for years. You can try looking up PayPass mechant, such as this link: http://www.google.com/wallet/how-it-works/in-store.html
So it doesn't have to be specifically for google wallet? They work on the things like the speedpass at speedway or your creditcard where you just tap it to the machine and it gets your infO?
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Plenty of you fly to Japan and China, they have been using it for years. You can try looking up PayPass mechant, such as this link: http://www.google.com/wallet/how-it-works/in-store.html
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Awesome! Looking forward to trying this out in the next few weeks. Hope I remember to try it when I see it...
I tried to use this at Walgreens today. They had the translucent blue PayPass terminal. I sat there for about 30 seconds and nothing happened. I even tried to enter the app and still nothing. NFC was on, and my card is attached in Google Wallet.
I think I set up wallet, then unlocked and rooted, then had to re-set up Wallet. Am I doing something wrong? The clerk was staring at me like I was crazy, just holding my phone next to the terminal....
eksasol said:
Plenty of you fly to Japan and China, they have been using it for years. You can try looking up PayPass mechant, such as this link: http://www.google.com/wallet/how-it-works/in-store.html
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I've been living in China all my life. What are your taking about?
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I tried to use this at Walgreens today. They had the translucent blue PayPass terminal. I sat there for about 30 seconds and nothing happened. I even tried to enter the app and still nothing. NFC was on, and my card is attached in Google Wallet.
I think I set up wallet, then unlocked and rooted, then had to re-set up Wallet. Am I doing something wrong? The clerk was staring at me like I was crazy, just holding my phone next to the terminal....
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I had that happen at Taco Bueno. And a McDonalds. But at some McDonalds it works. I think that so few people use this system that when its broken no one complains. And its probably never even tested when they set it up.
Typically you can just tap your phone to the thing (no need to be in the app). It'll prompt you for a PIN. Then you can pay.
If it's not working you may have a poor data connection? I think it requires data to work.
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I had that happen at Taco Bueno. And a McDonalds. But at some McDonalds it works. I think that so few people use this system that when its broken no one complains. And its probably never even tested when they set it up.
Typically you can just tap your phone to the thing (no need to be in the app). It'll prompt you for a PIN. Then you can pay.
If it's not working you may have a poor data connection? I think it requires data to work.
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Ohhh that's what I love about my area, HSPA+ EVERYWHERE . I guess I'll try some other stores out...
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Well seems about as secure as having somebody run off with your actual wallet... So off-topic but where are the places where I can actually use Google Wallet >_>
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I'd still say it's more secure than that. Anyone can swipe a card and charge it as credit. Relatively few people would know how to brute force hack google wallet on a rooted device.
Everyone.
Google wallet does not require a data connection.
If its not working , I read on the wallet website to "hold it about an inch" from the terminal. Without placing it on the terminal. Try to see if that works.
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Yeah mine didn't work at the gas station the other day, though I didn't log out of Google Wallet before I flashed a rom and rooted recently so some say that it'll never work again after that because of the secure element getting locked or something like that. Hopefully that's not true.
I've flashed and reflashed a lot. All you need to do is delete the data, connect to high speed internet like WiFi, then open it up. Worked for me.
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Ok, I've tried to get Google Wallet on my rooted S4 without asking too many questions, but I'm not sure if I'm messed with the system too much or not but regardless of what I do I am unable to get the NFC portion of Google Wallet working. I am running MDL and have frozen SE on the system.
I did try to follow the information on how to get it to work for the S3 and the S4 on AT&T but I am either missing a step or am really bad at getting simple things to work. Does this work on a rooted S4? Are the steps even the same? How can I learn more about this without running and asking questions for every little problem I have? (last one is really just more of a frustrated question).
If anyone could take a few minutes to point me into the right direction I would greatly appreciate it. If it can't be done, I understand (and may be relieved as sad as that sounds).
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Ok, I've tried to get Google Wallet on my rooted S4 without asking too many questions, but I'm not sure if I'm messed with the system too much or not but regardless of what I do I am unable to get the NFC portion of Google Wallet working. I am running MDL and have frozen SE on the system.
I did try to follow the information on how to get it to work for the S3 and the S4 on AT&T but I am either missing a step or am really bad at getting simple things to work. Does this work on a rooted S4? Are the steps even the same? How can I learn more about this without running and asking questions for every little problem I have? (last one is really just more of a frustrated question).
If anyone could take a few minutes to point me into the right direction I would greatly appreciate it. If it can't be done, I understand (and may be relieved as sad as that sounds).
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I have Google wallet installed. It says "unsupported device" but it works on my rooted phone. Wallet may not work on AT&T but it works on Sprint.
What rom/kernel are you on? I'm using agat (64gb exfat works great!) and kuban rom and google wallet does not even launch for me.
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I have Google wallet installed. It says "unsupported device" but it works on my rooted phone. Wallet may not work on AT&T but it works on Sprint.
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I actually have Sprint, but have been reading the other forums just incase my questions can be answered by a little research.
The problem I have is that it still says unsupported device but when I go to scan against an NFC reader (IE like those at CVS) it doesn't transmit anything. I turn my phone on, open it, and even open google wallet but nada.
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What rom/kernel are you on? I'm using agat (64gb exfat works great!) and kuban rom and google wallet does not even launch for me.
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Stock (MDL) rooted rom. I have frozen a few services /apps and removed the Sprint scumware that was installed along with a few samsung apps, but haven't been able to figure out what I'm doing wrong.
Crawrj actually posted a fix for the Google Wallet issues on rooted Mdl but has taken it down since he baked it into the MDl rom. I think I still have the zip to fix the issue on my computer, so I'll put a link here in a bit :thumbup:
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MHousos said:
Crawrj actually posted a fix for the Google Wallet issues on rooted Mdl but has taken it down since he baked it into the MDl rom. I think I still have the zip to fix the issue on my computer, so I'll put a link here in a bit :thumbup:
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I opened a topic on this 8hrs ago. With no response. That would be awesome
mattfmartin said:
I opened a topic on this 8hrs ago. With no response. That would be awesome
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Hopefully this will help you guys out haha
http://d-h.st/users/MHousos/?fld_id=17410#files
MHousos said:
Hopefully this will help you guys out haha
http://d-h.st/users/MHousos/?fld_id=17410#files
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Thanks man.. I'll have to check it out in 8 hours when I get home.
I installed his zip file. It does start up now, but says unsupported device.
Try reinstalling it, and then see if it fixes it. If that doesn't work, I'll search the threads for some solutions.
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DarqAnshin said:
I actually have Sprint, but have been reading the other forums just incase my questions can be answered by a little research.
The problem I have is that it still says unsupported device but when I go to scan against an NFC reader (IE like those at CVS) it doesn't transmit anything. I turn my phone on, open it, and even open google wallet but nada.
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Hopefully this will help you guys out haha
http://d-h.st/users/MHousos/?fld_id=17410#files
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Is there a fix for the unsupported device? The above file is for deodexed ROMs.
Specifically I am rooted stock, and would like to see some love.
It does the same for me but I think mine is working... it's really weird. I wasn't able to find a fix yet so hopefully someone might be able to help us out.
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It does the same for me but I think mine is working... it's really weird. I wasn't able to find a fix yet so hopefully someone might be able to help us out.
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I actually may have stumbled upon the fix using NottachXposed. Basically I just installed Wallet as normal and attached my account, then I went to NottachXposed›Applications›checked Google Wallet hack and rebooted. I have used Wallet 2x since doing so at 7-11 and at CVS. Nag screen does not show and my purchases went through.
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I actually may have stumbled upon the fix using NottachXposed. Basically I just installed Wallet as normal and attached my account, then I went to NottachXposed›Applications›checked Google Wallet hack and rebooted. I have used Wallet 2x since doing so at 7-11 and at CVS. Nag screen does not show and my purchases went through.
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Awesome! I'll have that try that out Thanks!
I have wallet set up but purchases keep getting declined anyone no why?
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Maybe you're broke?
<- Not helpful.
Actually, dumb question, but you do have a valid fund source set up in the app?
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Maybe you're broke?
<- Not helpful.
Actually, dumb question, but you do have a valid fund source set up in the app?
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Of course I use the same card and it works on my nexus s and I'm far from broke
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Can I have some money?
Can any one confirm Wallet working on Rooted stock? Mine is displaying "unsupported device", but I haven't had a chance to try it out yet.
Is anyone aware of VZW Note 3 solution that allow Google Wallet's tap and pay to work? Searched high and low and came up empty.
Do not want to go the Isis.
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as of now, no. Ive' tried the workarounds given in the Galaxy S4 forums to no avail
Does isis work? I tried searching for it in the play store but couldn't find it.
ISIS does work, and the 2.0 update has made the app a lot more usable. If you pair it with an AMEX Serve card, and set the Serve card up so that it's funded directly from another credit card, it can work almost as well as Google Wallet. Plus, the Jamba Juice million smoothie promo is worth the price of entry by itself. If the app's not showing up on the Play Store, this thread has it (you can ignore the Xposed stuff if you're not rooted, but it's also a nice guide on how to get ISIS working if you are rooted): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2482708
However, I second the OP's question, as I would much prefer to use Google Wallet over ISIS. As I understand it, there's a snag in fixing the NFC Libs, and this thread details the current state of the attempts to get tap-to-pay working on the phone: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2476093
Hopefully we'll see some progress soon. Meanwhile, ISIS isn't a...terrible alternative, in its current iteration. It's just not as good as Wallet by any stretch of the imagination.
I don't believe there is anyway to get it to work right now because of a secure element in the sim, but from what I understand if/when we get 4.4 it should be good to go.
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It seems that Android Pay has stopped working for anyone who has root as of now. https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/43bl05/newest_safetynet_check_detects_systemless_root/
Pay was working for me last night as it had for weeks. When I heard the rumbles, I checked using safteynet helper and it failed. Just to make sure I tried to pay with it and it failed.
Hopefully this is temporary, but it seems Goggle is being pretty aggressive with patching any issues, so it will be "iffy" at best. At least we don't have to answer anymore, "How can I get Pay to work with my ROM" questions.
Some more info; Being the check is made via an API and is server side, you can't downgrade any app to get it to work. While Chainfire is a deity and I doubt it will take him too long to pop in a fix, Google has an army and cash and if this is important to them, which it is, they will beat him sooner or later. You can un-root and use Pay, then reroot.
For me, while Pay was fun, I've carried a wallet and plastic forever, so it's a no brainer for me, custom rom it is.
Update 1/30/16: If we needed anymore proof; http://www.xda-developers.com/android-pay-no-longer-working-with-systemless-root/
I second that... I love v4a way too much to go back to stock. Android Pay is ...uh "a cute little gimmick" thats it. Most of the relevant places won't even let you use it. I have my RFID wallet and that's safe enough for me. Using AP out in public is just a way to show off and get your phone stolen quicker. Besides I'm not giving Google my fingerprint. So I'll stay on custom ROMs that's why I bought a Nexus, that's why anyone buys a Nexus. If Google is going to start locking down there devices like Apple and Samsung... Then I might as well buy THE best locked down phone out there and thats the iPhone...hands down.
People buy Nexus phones because of the customization possibilities. Let's face it at the end of the day customization is all the Nexus and other phones like it have going for if... That's why I own one.
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I think it's better like this. If you want to use android pay, stay on stock. Android pay shouldn't have worked with root to begin with.
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The Zel said:
I think it's better like this. If you want to use android pay, stay on stock. Android pay shouldn't have worked with root to begin with.
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True I have Nexus 6 and a 6p...I'll just keep one of them stock with Android Pay and the other will be my toy to play around with custom ROMs. Easy to swap out a sim card. Easy fix
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The Zel said:
I think it's better like this. If you want to use android pay, stay on stock. Android pay shouldn't have worked with root to begin with.
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It bothers me admit that I cant do anything and everything I want to an item I bought and own (Legally of course), especially a Nexus. I root, I accept liability, end of story. But we all know how accepting liability means nothing today.
I understand why Google is doing what they are with Pay and security, rooting makes the device less secure according to the banks. I used Wallet a lot, but I'm sure Google had a concern being they were holding the liability on that vs. Pay and the banks.
Pay was convenient for sure, but I always have to have my drivers license with me and I always have some plastic and having a feature rich rom beats Pay any day, I think it's an easy choice.
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True I have Nexus 6 and a 6p...I'll just keep one of them stock with Android Pay and the other will be my toy to play around with custom ROMs. Easy to swap out a sim card. Easy fix
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Damn bro, your gonna carry 2 phones now! It's a lot easier to just throw some plastic in your pocket!
Just more proof we need MultiRom capabilities!
Interesting read, guess I'm going back to standard root. Root is the only way for me to use Verizon wifi hotspot on a unlimited plan.