*MOD EDIT* This thread will be used to discuss your thoughts on the KitKat 4.4 update for the HTC One ONLY. This change is to keep the forum as clear as possible and stop similar threads from being created.
Is anyone else disapointed with the new 4.4 KitKat? I was hoping we would get the Nexus 5 homescreen look, with the transparent folders, status bar, new dock design, etc.. Instead our phones look identical to the 4.3 look!! We didn't even get the 4.4 wallpapers the Nexus 5 has!
I read somewhere that Google wanted to 'test' the new launcher on the nexus 5 with feedback and what not before they made it available for everyone.
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Is anyone else disapointed with the new 4.4 KitKat? I was hoping we would get the Nexus 5 homescreen look, with the transparent folders, status bar, new dock design, etc.. Instead our phones look identical to the 4.3 look!! We didn't even get the 4.4 wallpapers the Nexus 5 has!
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Sideload and install the GEL apk, and you'll get all this... works perfectly.
People should know that unless you get a Google device. That you will get a watered down version of their update from your phone makers/ carriers. If you are rooted I an sure a dev will make a rom that has all the goodies you posted in wanting.
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Dark Jedi said:
People should know that unless you get a Google device. That you will get a watered down version of their update from your phone makers/ carriers. If you are rooted I an sure a dev will make a rom that has all the goodies you posted in wanting.
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How is the update "watered down"? On every device except the Nexus 5, there is no google experience launcher with the update(this problem can easily be solved by doing a search on google). Otherwise, it's a full fledged update that has everything that Kitkat offers.
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How is the update "watered down"? On every device except the Nexus 5, there is no google experience launcher with the update(this problem can easily be solved by doing a search on google). Otherwise, it's a full fledged update that has everything that Kitkat offers.
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Does it have everything that the nexus 5 does? I will say that's a big no. So it's watered down from what Google released. Sure you can add in what's missing but still doesn't change the fact that HTC omitted certain features of kit Kat. So I stand by my statement of watered down.
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Does it have everything that the nexus 5 does? I will say that's a big no. So it's watered down from what Google released. Sure you can add in what's missing but still doesn't change the fact that HTC omitted certain features of kit Kat. So I stand by my statement of watered down.
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Not HTC but Google. Only device with all new features is the nexus 5 for now.
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Does it have everything that the nexus 5 does? I will say that's a big no. So it's watered down from what Google released. Sure you can add in what's missing but still doesn't change the fact that HTC omitted certain features of kit Kat. So I stand by my statement of watered down.
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HTC didnt omit anything, Google did. Other than that everything else seems to be there. Dialer search is working. ART, which I found not to make much of a difference is working if you're using an odexed rom. We have different definitions of watered down which is fine, but to me that would imply an array of features missing not just one. Technically the experience launcher is already there, it just needs the apk for it to be enabled as it's rooted within the search app. Everything points to Google releasing the launcher apk in the play store soon.
VR1 said:
Is anyone else disapointed with the new 4.4 KitKat? I was hoping we would get the Nexus 5 homescreen look, with the transparent folders, status bar, new dock design, etc.. Instead our phones look identical to the 4.3 look!! We didn't even get the 4.4 wallpapers the Nexus 5 has!
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did samsung pay you to come here and post this?
I'm dissapointed I didn't win the lottery.
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Dark Jedi said:
Does it have everything that the nexus 5 does? I will say that's a big no. So it's watered down from what Google released. Sure you can add in what's missing but still doesn't change the fact that HTC omitted certain features of kit Kat. So I stand by my statement of watered down.
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What? HTC didn't omit a single thing. The HTC One got EVERYTHING the Nexus 4, 7, and 10 got.
It's more accurate to say the Nexus 5 got an enhanced version, even compared to the rest of the Nexus line from Google, and we got the standard version. I'm sure the Nexus 5 launcher will hit the play store soon though and then we can all officially have the full enhanced version of KitKat.
i just had a kit-kat and i am already jolly and a bit fatter.
If we were forced to use GEL on kk everyone would complain... You don't have to use it but you can install it... Everyone complains... How can Google win?
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After all the whining about not getting the update in 15 days I knew there was going to be a complaint after getting the update... Lol you can't win with everybody.
But yes this isn't watered down every other nexus device got the same thing except the nexus 5
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all you need is the GEL. :angel:
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After all the whining about not getting the update in 15 days I knew there was going to be a complaint after getting the update... Lol you can't win with everybody.
But yes this isn't watered down every other nexus device got the same thing except the nexus 5
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You can't please everyone.
Learned that in many walks of life and especially managing in the food biz.
CraigP17 said:
did samsung pay you to come here and post this?
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Nope. I had a GS4 for a week, before it was returned for my One.
Installing the GEL apk from the dozens of links on xda will fix all the things that you listed. The new Nova beta also has all these features except the "Okay Google" feature.
Thanks for suggesting the GEL.apk going to do it right now.
I guess people should look up the video to when the Nexus 5 was announced......there were "exclusive" features for that phone. If you question the definition of exclusive, then place your phones down and pick up a dictionary.
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What's this?
http://phandroid.com/2010/12/09/nexus-one-for-vodafone-receiving-android-2-2-1-update/
I thought that Nexus phone will ALWAYS get update directly from Google?
So, if you buy from T-Mobile, there is a chance you need to wait from T-Mobile as well?
I don't get it.
NOTE: Before people shouting that this should be put specifically to the Nexus One forum. I think this is still valid information for us, who will buy Nexus S just because of the Google experience, like the old Nexus One. Hoping to get first update directly from Google when Google releases any new update. Apparently, that might NOT be the case! Well, hope NOT *finger crossed* ...
I cant speak for the rest of the world but US customers always get their updates directly from Google.
I have a Nexus One right now and have gotten 3 over the air updates directly from Google.
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What's this?
http://phandroid.com/2010/12/09/nexus-one-for-vodafone-receiving-android-2-2-1-update/
I thought that Nexus phone will ALWAYS get update directly from Google?
So, if you buy from T-Mobile, there is a chance you need to wait from T-Mobile as well?
I don't get it.
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you can always root the phone and load the stock built from google. But being an android enthusiast i rarely do OTA as you lose root and have to wait, i rather wait for devs to build new roms or optimize the official roms.
Regardless if the Update is pushed from Google or pushed from Samsung it will be the First phone to get it, quite possible along with the N1 so what does it matter?
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Regardless if the Update is pushed from Google or pushed from Samsung it will be the First phone to get it, quite possible along with the N1 so what does it matter?
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It matters with future updates ;-)
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It matters with future updates ;-)
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Im pretty sure Google can handle the software and OTA's on their own, they did well enough with the N1
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Im pretty sure Google can handle the software and OTA's on their own, they did well enough with the N1
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I didn't say they couldn't. I prefer Google handles them because I am still sitting here with a Fascinate running 2.1
Vodafone had a different build of Android for the phones they directly sold, I believe. No massive changes, but the update process is in their hands for their N1s
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You are correct, they only released FRG83D yesterday!
Why is this on the nexus s forum? There is a nexus one forum you know
JD
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JupiterDroid said:
Why is this on the nexus s forum? There is a nexus one forum you know
JD
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haha I just noticed. Well I hope Google will be putting out the Nexus S updates and not Samsung
Wonder if whatever it does get will be OTA, or via Kies like the GS?
Geez ... This is still a valid question for this Nexus S.
Why?
Because there will be a lot of people using "Pure Google" experience reasoning to decide whether to buy Nexus S or not.
Like me, one of the thing that I like with Nexus S is the direct update from Google.
Then I found that is NOT ALWAYS the case! That Nexus One from Vodafone for example.
So, I asked to this forum, probably someone in the know ...
Probably with this, people will know in the future if their Nexus S must wait Vodafone or T-Mobile or God knows who
See? Happy now?
JupiterDroid said:
Why is this on the nexus s forum? There is a nexus one forum you know
JD
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In the UK, the CarPhoneWarehouse sells unbranded phones and just couples them with with a SIM from whatever provider you've picked, so they shouldn't be subject to carrier interference.
According to Three UK, HTC has pulled the 4.2.2 release for the HTC One. The tweet is quoted and linked below. Does anyone have any further information on this?
Hi, we've learnt HTC have just pulled the 4.2.2 release, we don't yet have a new schedule for this
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https://twitter.com/ThreeUK/status/346669148195127296
It wasn't officially released in any variant of the One yet. So technically HTC didn't pull anything.
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Three haven't exactly been spot on in the past, so take it with a pinch of salt until something more official comes along.
The super-optimist in me thinks HTC got a peak at 4.3 (due to the nexus edition) and figured it was worth waiting for, but I put him back in his cage.
Yea they will probably take another month to release this, I really hope they are more prepared for key lime pie, I'm getting impatient with this because once again I passed up Samsung because of it's ui, I got it on my note 8.0 and it's perfect for tablet but I prefer different for a phone, I just want quick settings back
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Yea they will probably take another month to release this, I really hope they are more prepared for key lime pie, I'm getting impatient with this because once again I passed up Samsung because of it's ui, I got it on my note 8.0 and it's perfect for tablet but I prefer different for a phone, I just want quick settings back
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Just install notification toggle from the market whilst you wait.
It's Three. Rough translation: Damn! We can't cripple 4.2.2 with all our in-house additional features (that we object to be called bloatware) so we better start a rumour that it was all HTC's fault.
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TrickDroid ROM 5.6
Bulletproof 1.10
We will believe it when we see a picture of the update...
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HTC confirms Android 4.2 is still coming to the One, despite rumors to the contrary
cmon! Did anyone really believe this??
Who cares? ARHD and Trickdroid are just perfect and based on 4.2.2; you won't be missing out.
received confirmation that Android 4.2 is in fact still coming
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maybe I am a little bit naive but I f****** demand that it comes. point. and sory for the term.
Rayglobe asides from the long boot up time is the ROM to be rocking IMO.
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I only care when T-mo is coming out. The devs here have done a great job with 4.2, but still no wifi calling.
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Who cares? ARHD and Trickdroid are just perfect and based on 4.2.2; you won't be missing out.
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Kernel sources.
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Kernel sources.
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I agree, I am looking forward to releases because with every major release the devs get better ROMs and kernels out...
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I see that the note 2 is getting it's first update!!!!....since it's been out ....and I am a little bit worried about the rollout of an official version of kitkat.
Also has any heard about current developers working on a kitkat rom?
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I see that the note 2 is getting it's first update!!!!....since it's been out ....and I am a little bit worried about the rollout of an official version of kitkat.
Also has any heard about current developers working on a kitkat rom?
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Kitkat rom isn't possible without a leaked TW rom to begin with.
Why so eager? Touchwiz hardly resembles stock Android anyways. Flash player won't ever work with Kitkat. All our recent dev work would have to be redone.. right now is there one good reason we should be itching to get the 4.4 update?
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chefb said:
I see that the note 2 is getting it's first update!!!!....since it's been out ....and I am a little bit worried about the rollout of an official version of kitkat.
Also has any heard about current developers working on a kitkat rom?
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there are some out i heard from a couple of friends, i dont know where though, i am using kitkat on my htc inspire 4g from random blame and it looks cool so far, i like the change from blue to white
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Why so eager? Touchwiz hardly resembles stock Android anyways. Flash player won't ever work with Kitkat. All our recent dev work would have to be redone.. right now is there one good reason we should be itching to get the 4.4 update?
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I'm not itching for kitkat....In fact I don't know what the major update is(in kitkat). But the time it took for the last note to receive a update was a year. I've never been on one version of android that long.
So that prompts question are developsers working with the kitkat source on the note while keeping our touchwiz?
kitkat does not excite me that is all you need to know..
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I'm not itching for kitkat....In fact I don't know what the major update is(in kitkat). But the time it took for the last note to receive a update was a year. I've never been on one version of android that long.
So that prompts question are developsers working with the kitkat source on the note while keeping our touchwiz?
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We can't flash kernels (yes I know you DE guys can but good luck seeing much development there) so there will be no kitkat without a Samsung leak. AOSP source does nothing for us at all.
I just want 4.4 for google wallet to actually work
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We can't flash kernels (yes I know you DE guys can but good luck seeing much development there) so there will be no kitkat without a Samsung leak. AOSP source does nothing for us at all.
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tmobile kernels work that is all the development we need. they run great with no issues
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I just want 4.4 for google wallet to actually work
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So the Google Wallet that I installed from the play store doesn't work? It seems to launch fine, there are very few places here for me to test it or though.
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So the Google Wallet that I installed from the play store doesn't work? It seems to launch fine, there are very few places here for me to test it or though.
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There is no tap to pay on it on the note 3
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There is no tap to pay on it on the note 3
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Thanks, I wasn't aware of that when I posted, I started to research it and I thought that's what I read too but haven't tried to use so didn't know fir sure.
I guess it's more of a Verizon thing that they blocked the function to make you use their service.
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There is no tap to pay on it on the note 3
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Thanks, I wasn't aware of that when I posted, I started to research it and I thought that's what I read too but haven't tried to use so didn't know fir sure.
I guess it's more of a Verizon thing that they blocked the function to make you use their service.
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That's all changed now!!!
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/google-wallet-updated-with-kitkat-nfc-host-card-emulation/
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That's all changed now!!!
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/google-wallet-updated-with-kitkat-nfc-host-card-emulation/
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Nothing has changed. We don't have KitKat (4..4), at least us with consumer versions don't. Until we do, or someone figures out a work around, no "tap to pay" Google Wallet.
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Nothing has changed. We don't have KitKat (4..4), at least us with consumer versions don't. Until we do, or someone figures out a work around, no "tap to pay" Google Wallet.
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The whole point was that Google Wallet didn't support the new secure SIMs, Now they do and its just a matter of time before someone ports it over.
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The whole point was that Google Wallet didn't support the new secure SIMs, Now they do and its just a matter of time before someone ports it over.
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The whole point was that Google Wallet didn't support the new secure SIMs, Now they do and its just a matter of time before someone ports it over.
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I may be wrong, I'm no Dev, but the way I understand it. It's not so much Wallet supporting it as it is the OS itself. 4.4 supports the host card emulation ability and Wallet was updated to use that ability. I hope I'm wrong, but that's my understanding for what it's worth.
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Samsung hinted to a kit Kat update for the Note 3 scheduled for January of 2014... It's definitely coming
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Samsung hinted to a kit Kat update for the Note 3 scheduled for January of 2014... It's definitely coming
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I hate to be the guy who keeps raining on the parade, but I wouldn't count on our VZW variant getting updated in January. The international version, maybe, but the only way we'll get KitKat by then is if Hashcode or someone cracks the boatloader or Hash gets Kexec working. Just my opinions, of course.
is there really any reason that google has made the GEL launcher exclusive to the nexus 5? I looked at the lg g2 a few days ago in my local t-mo store and liked the fact it had a large screen, and figured i could get something like that if I had my bars transparent like the bars on the g2 since it's a huge price jump and I couldn't afford it. That being said, is there really any reason other than a selling point to keep the GEL on the n5 only? Thanks
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is there really any reason that google has made the GEL launcher exclusive to the nexus 5? I looked at the lg g2 a few days ago in my local t-mo store and liked the fact it had a large screen, and figured i could get something like that if I had my bars transparent like the bars on the g2 since it's a huge price jump and I couldn't afford it. That being said, is there really any reason other than a selling point to keep the GEL on the n5 only? Thanks
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It's still in an early state of development. It's like a "Testing" phase. Google is improving it before releasing it.
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It's still in an early state of development. It's like a "Testing" phase. Google is improving it before releasing it.
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so whats the likelyhood of the nexus 4 getting it or when will it probably be available? I feel like emailing google and asking about it
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so whats the likelyhood of the nexus 4 getting it or when will it probably be available? I feel like emailing google and asking about it
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You can actually get it by yourself.
http://www.howtogeek.com/176009/how...le-experience-launcher-on-any-android-device/
It has the same functionality as on the Nexus 5.
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You can actually get it by yourself.
http://www.howtogeek.com/176009/how...le-experience-launcher-on-any-android-device/
It has the same functionality as on the Nexus 5.
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thank you, ill use that - but I'm just wondering why it's exclusive is all
edit: will this work on cyanogenmod 10.2? Thanks
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thank you, ill use that - but I'm just wondering why it's exclusive is all
edit: will this work on cyanogenmod 10.2? Thanks
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I think it will.
Another reason would be that this way, people would be inclined to buy the Nexus 5 over other phones.
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I think it will.
Another reason would be that this way, people would be inclined to buy the Nexus 5 over other phones.
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Probably :/. Silly google, don't they realize by doing so they are ticking off their previous loyal customers from the nexus 4
edit: the transparent bars wont show on the nexus 4 with it on cyanogenmod 10.2
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Probably :/. Silly google, don't they realize by doing so they are ticking off their previous loyal customers from the nexus 4
edit: the transparent bars wont show on the nexus 4 with it on cyanogenmod 10.2
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Yeah, I think you need KitKat for that.
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Yeah, I think you need KitKat for that.
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yeah, I'll probably flash kit kat and that then use it. I really do want this effect for it'll save me from financial problems, lol.
When will Sprint officially release the update for both phones?
Thanks in advance.
First Android Lollipop needs to be released. Then Samsung needs to work on firmware for its line up. Note 4 first then s5, note 3, then s4. THEN... they need to send it to sprint so sprint can add it's enhancements (bloat)... AND THEN sprint starts the roll out which hits most devices two weeks after they announce it. Sprint is working on the 4.4.4 update now so we are looking at months.. maybe Feb or March.
I'm hoping since Google did the whole new preview thing that Samsung actually worked on it and push rapid updates to all their main devices to 1up other manufacturers but of course that won't happen.
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Here we go with these threads..
I would say never. I'm hopeful for a good, stable cm L build soon, but even that's not coming anytime soon.
Just buy a Nexus 6 lol
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Here we go with these threads..
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It's the FIRST and ONLY thread. :/
Mudavo said:
Just buy a Nexus 6 lol
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Nope. The S4 width from side to side of 69.8mm is the widest I ever want to go. The new phones are too big.
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Here we go with these threads..
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LOL, yeah..
IMHO - Probably never...
Good chance we will see a Cyanogenmod or a port of google play edition rom or similar AOSP based rom first. And those will probably be better roms anyway.
Not to sound like a negative Nancy but, I havce a hard time beleieving Samsungs TW version of L will look any different than the Kitkat, version or the Jellybean version, or ICS and so on and so forth. All that beuty and features with be covered up and removed by ugly old tired TW crapola.
Only thing we need is CM
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Not to sound like a negative Nancy but, I havce a hard time beleieving Samsungs TW version of L will look any different than the Kitkat, version or the Jellybean version, or ICS and so on and so forth. All that beuty and features with be covered up and removed by ugly old tired TW crapola.
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So agree to that... and then sprint crapola on it.
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seriously
Come on guys. Go buy an IPhone and forget about all the headache and crapola.
A buddy of mine at work just showed me his lollipop CM-aosp ROM on his LG2. (He's with Verizon) Looked pretty sweet. Fast.