Nexus not getting update directly from Google? - Nexus S General

What's this?
http://phandroid.com/2010/12/09/nexus-one-for-vodafone-receiving-android-2-2-1-update/
I thought that Nexus phone will ALWAYS get update directly from Google?
So, if you buy from T-Mobile, there is a chance you need to wait from T-Mobile as well?
I don't get it.
NOTE: Before people shouting that this should be put specifically to the Nexus One forum. I think this is still valid information for us, who will buy Nexus S just because of the Google experience, like the old Nexus One. Hoping to get first update directly from Google when Google releases any new update. Apparently, that might NOT be the case! Well, hope NOT *finger crossed* ...

I cant speak for the rest of the world but US customers always get their updates directly from Google.
I have a Nexus One right now and have gotten 3 over the air updates directly from Google.

gogol said:
What's this?
http://phandroid.com/2010/12/09/nexus-one-for-vodafone-receiving-android-2-2-1-update/
I thought that Nexus phone will ALWAYS get update directly from Google?
So, if you buy from T-Mobile, there is a chance you need to wait from T-Mobile as well?
I don't get it.
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you can always root the phone and load the stock built from google. But being an android enthusiast i rarely do OTA as you lose root and have to wait, i rather wait for devs to build new roms or optimize the official roms.

Regardless if the Update is pushed from Google or pushed from Samsung it will be the First phone to get it, quite possible along with the N1 so what does it matter?

slowz3r said:
Regardless if the Update is pushed from Google or pushed from Samsung it will be the First phone to get it, quite possible along with the N1 so what does it matter?
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It matters with future updates ;-)

tekkitan said:
It matters with future updates ;-)
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Im pretty sure Google can handle the software and OTA's on their own, they did well enough with the N1

slowz3r said:
Im pretty sure Google can handle the software and OTA's on their own, they did well enough with the N1
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I didn't say they couldn't. I prefer Google handles them because I am still sitting here with a Fascinate running 2.1

Vodafone had a different build of Android for the phones they directly sold, I believe. No massive changes, but the update process is in their hands for their N1s
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You are correct, they only released FRG83D yesterday!

Why is this on the nexus s forum? There is a nexus one forum you know
JD
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JupiterDroid said:
Why is this on the nexus s forum? There is a nexus one forum you know
JD
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haha I just noticed. Well I hope Google will be putting out the Nexus S updates and not Samsung

Wonder if whatever it does get will be OTA, or via Kies like the GS?

Geez ... This is still a valid question for this Nexus S.
Why?
Because there will be a lot of people using "Pure Google" experience reasoning to decide whether to buy Nexus S or not.
Like me, one of the thing that I like with Nexus S is the direct update from Google.
Then I found that is NOT ALWAYS the case! That Nexus One from Vodafone for example.
So, I asked to this forum, probably someone in the know ...
Probably with this, people will know in the future if their Nexus S must wait Vodafone or T-Mobile or God knows who
See? Happy now?
JupiterDroid said:
Why is this on the nexus s forum? There is a nexus one forum you know
JD
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In the UK, the CarPhoneWarehouse sells unbranded phones and just couples them with with a SIM from whatever provider you've picked, so they shouldn't be subject to carrier interference.

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android 2.2

im not sure if this is possible but is the upcomin 2.2 update going to only be for "verizon" nexus one or is it for all nexus ones?
It'll be for all
gamefan231 said:
im not sure if this is possible but is the upcomin 2.2 update going to only be for "verizon" nexus one or is it for all nexus ones?
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why would it be for the verizion nexus one? its not even out yet. and why wouldnt google support their GSM version?
gamefan231 said:
im not sure if this is possible but is the upcomin 2.2 update going to only be for "verizon" nexus one or is it for all nexus ones?
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of course it'll be for all.
Or maybe 2.2 update will be going to gsm 1st then to verizon
gamefan231 said:
im not sure if this is possible but is the upcomin 2.2 update going to only be for "verizon" nexus one or is it for all nexus ones?
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What reason can you POSSIBLY think of that an update would be only for Verizon, when Verizon's N1 hasn't been released or even announced yet, and the N1 that has been on the market for 4 months already won't get the update??
Seriously, I would absolutely LOVE to hear what the thought process is behind this question.
Try howardforums.com
It's more your speed
It definately won't be for Verizon's Nexus One, cause it seems they won't have one. Google Phone store is directing customers to Verizon's site to buy the incredible.
My sense (no pun intended) is that when Google is ready to realse its next software update, it will hit each and every N1 over the span of a few days.
I do not feel that Google would relaase an update for one carrier/device and then hold back the release from another carrier/device.
Dan

Google shutting down N1 forums

According to Android Central, Google is going to shutdown their Nexus One forums on November 1st, making them Read Only.
Semi-true.
Whilst there is an announcement to that effect, it also tells you where to post afterwards. Basically they're moving them to another section.
Not that they're really N1 specific anyway, there's no mention of N1 in their title anywhere.
Rusty! said:
Semi-true.
Whilst there is an announcement to that effect, it also tells you where to post afterwards. Basically they're moving them to another section.
Not that they're really N1 specific anyway, there's no mention of N1 in their title anywhere.
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It's not semi-true, it's completely true.
"The Nexus One forum will be archived and become read-only on November 1st. Please see the Nexus One Terms of Sale for details regarding support. If you have questions about using applications on your Nexus One post them to the Google Mobile Forum."
Google says they're shutting down the N1 section and you argue with them And apparently you missed the HUGE words NEXUS ONE at the top of the page, so the forums they are(were) indeed Nexus One specific:
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android?hl=en
Hmm...I wonder if they disbanded the google nexus phone team.
That's not good in terms of updates for you guys. =/
JCopernicus said:
Hmm...I wonder if they disbanded the google nexus phone team.
That's not good in terms of updates for you guys. =/
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I was just wondering that myself....a strange time to do this with Gingerbread right around the corner. Then again it's still the development phone...although even that could change at any time I suppose...no guarantees in life. Doesn't matter to me tho: CM will take care of our Gingerbread needs.
There it goes the "HTC Magic afair" again...
I´s normal that they get better hardware in which develop new features for their OS...
But dismantleying the Nexus crap is against our understanding and negatively impacts on the trust we got in the Google Phone
I was a little bit scared as well when I initially read this, but then I also came to the same realization as MuckenMire; "Why should I be scared?" My N1 is rooted, and as long as people love the N1, there will be plenty of dev's out there to give the latest and greatest and even better than greatest ROM's. Sure, at some point, the phone's hardware will cease to meet the minimum requirements of the then current high performance version of Android, but I hope and am pretty confident that there will be a new phone that is just as easy to mod as the N1 by then.
http://www.androidcentral.com/second-google-phone-out-christmas
Second google phone.
Time to eat my hat with ketchup.
JCopernicus said:
http://www.androidcentral.com/second-google-phone-out-christmas
Second google phone.
Time to eat my hat with ketchup.
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theyre saying its going to be announced Nov 8 (samsung)
Old MuckenMire said:
And apparently you missed the HUGE words NEXUS ONE at the top of the page, so the forums they are(were) indeed Nexus One specific:
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android?hl=en
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No Nexus One words there at all
EDIT: No wait, seems it was being blocked, well there you go lol
Rusty! said:
No Nexus One words there at all
EDIT: No wait, seems it was being blocked, well there you go lol
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Hopefully they just replace it with the words: Nexus 2
Old MuckenMire said:
Hopefully they just replace it with the words: Nexus 2
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I think, it will be "Nexus S"
no ****.
arimasaes said:
I think, it will be "Nexus S"
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sooo, anyone else *#*#checkin#*#* yet?

I know I am not the only one... man, when Froyo came out it was OCD.
As far as I know, gingerbread isn't even out yet. Just the sdk.
twflys said:
I know I am not the only one... man, when Froyo came out it was OCD.
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Naw not really
Pretty sure Google wants to have the Nexus S come out first on the 16th and then OTA the update to us on the 17th or so
Yeah, ask again next Thursday. No reason to believe we'll see it before then.
pfmiller said:
Yeah, ask again next Thursday. No reason to believe we'll see it before then.
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Unless the famous Football has anything to do with it. If I don't see a leak for the nexus by next wednesday, I'd be surprised
I'm pretty wrapped up in senseui 2.0 right now, gingerbread can wait
What's the point of waiting just for the next day to release the ota for n1? There's no real gain in that for google.
I suspect we'll have to wait longer than 1 day.
geemaan said:
What's the point of waiting just for the next day to release the ota for n1? There's no real gain in that for google.
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How about they sell more Nexus S devices because geeks can't wait to get their hands on Gingerbread so they rush out to buy the phone anyways? Surely we all know it's coming to the Nexus S but look at the thread title, people are going nuts for Gingerbread as it is! LOL
Surely they could just do what Apple does and release the update the day before for the older phones but i guess we'll see
geemaan said:
What's the point of waiting just for the next day to release the ota for n1? There's no real gain in that for google.
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There is a good reason to wait.
Now when the SDK is out all the developers can test their apps against the Gingerbread and fix all the bugs and incompatibilities.
What do you think would happen, if goog realeases their 2.3 update and some popular apps don't work anymore? This forum would literally explode with screams like "fix this immediately or else", "I hate google", "gingerbread killed my cat" and so on. Why google would do that to themselves?
Jw but how is doing the dial in update thing different from the check for updates in the settings?
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There is no check for updates in the settings, that's how.
skunz35 said:
Jw but how is doing the dial in update thing different from the check for updates in the settings?
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I'm sure he's doing both just in case one yields different results. Supposedly I've heard that the Settings Updater doesn't always check, but caches the answer for an allotted time. Doing a "checkin" actually goes out and pings google (or wherever) and comes back with a result after a few seconds. The Settings app just flat out tells you no.
@Rusty is says there is under the about phone section
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@Rusty is says there is under the about phone section
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No there isn't. That section doesn't 'check' for updates, it tells you the result of the last system check for updates, which is done automatically, or forced through the dialer.
Going to that part of the settings does not force a check.
Damn, beat me too it Clarky
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What's the point of waiting just for the next day to release the ota for n1? There's no real gain in that for google.
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The point would be so that the Nexus S can be marketed as the first phone with Gingerbread.
Yeah they will probably either delay it to just after Dec 16th or release it some time next week. I'm betting on just after though.
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The point would be so that the Nexus S can be marketed as the first phone with Gingerbread.
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True, but its not like they would lose any buyers anyway.
The N1 is only sold as a dev phone. And how many ppl have a N1? compared to SGS or others...
Also, like when they released froyo...many apps didnt work with 2.2 and had to be updated.
There are alot of devs out there with a N1 as a devphone. Giving out 2.3 before the NS release thus giving time for the devs to update their apps before launch would give android better publicity. And happier customers
I dont know if this is an issue with 2.3 though...
(I know the SDK is out)
I was referring to 1 day vs 1 week or more. More seems more appropriate, as you all say.
The only place I'll be "checkin" with is the Development section chef's.

ICS 4.0.5 "suspended" ...

Yes... ICS 4.0.5 is suspended for Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus...
Source by SFR : http://android.sfr.fr/maj-optimisez-votre-mobile-android-mettez-le-a-jour-previsions-9
What about 4.0.4?
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damn Google!
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oh great... google is really messing this up then, eh?
yeah well, better than a faulty OTA.
lynyrd65 said:
What about 4.0.4?
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you really think a french provider would post info about the 4.0.4-update on sprint?!
I do not believe it!
Would wait until the end of March by the OTA, but I see I'll have to install a ROM alternative!
Let's see if Google decides on something, or if it appears other related news!
Yep yep. Google does it again.. but yeah like i read above, i better wait longer than a faulty OTA..
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Google stated less than two weeks ago 4.0.4 wasn't even complete yet. This French site is just trying to cover up their shoddy reporting.
Shame on Google this time...
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Shame on Google this time...
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Shame on Google for what?
In the Q&A, someone from SFR clarifies that the update has been delayed and they don't have an ETA yet. That's all it means. We didn't have an ETA before, so in effect nothing has changed.
This French site is making it up as they go along. They are talking out of their rear end.
I'm happy with 4.0.3. so what is the rush?
Why would Google give inside information to some tin-pot French operator when they have bigger fish to fry with their bigger markets?
They are bullshitting.
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Yeah, it makes zero sense. Google isn't "suspending" an update that never existed to begin with. They are surely working on 4.0.4 or whatever comes next and will release it as soon as it passes the QA tests.
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Why would Google give inside information to some tin-pot French operator when they have bigger fish to fry with their bigger markets?
They are bullshitting.
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Lol... that tin-pot provider is pretty big in France, which is a part of the not so small European market. And as far as I remember, us Europeans are the only ones so far who've got an official update. (Plus the American off-shoot, T-Mobile, of course).
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Lol... that tin-pot provider is pretty big in France, which is a part of the not so small European market. And as far as I remember, us Europeans are the only ones so far who've got an official update. (Plus the American off-shoot, T-Mobile, of course).
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It is also the only source of this rumor and has never been verified by any outside source. Therefore, I tend to believe it is nonsense. And it seems the initial report was inaccurate so it is hard to blame Google for information they didn't release that was not true.
Google must be doing something really big in the next update. Otherwise they wouldn't have delayed it for 3 months.
Or maybe Google devs are too much busy with 5.0 that they are hardly concerned with further updates on ICS.
Just wild guesses. Waiting for a surprise from Google.
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Google must be doing something really big in the next update. Otherwise they wouldn't have delayed it for 3 months.
Or maybe Google devs are too much busy with 5.0 that they are hardly concerned with further updates on ICS.
Just wild guesses. Waiting for a surprise from Google.
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My thoughts exactly. They must be cooking up something good.
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Not that I want Google to rush or anything, but I must say ICS on my Nexus S (Tmobile) runs quite poorly. Things hiccup and lag a bit, and when returning to the home screen (especially from Chrome or games), the home screen icons can take upwards of 5+ seconds to load. It happens frequently, and is quite frustrating.
Don't get me wrong, I love ICS, but owning a Nexus device to get the latest update is slightly overrated if it means my year+ old phone can't run it well due to hardware limitations. Kind of makes the second year of owning this device less enjoyable.
I'm hoping an update will address this.
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Shame on Google for what?
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For not realising a bugfixed version of ICS or not releasing practically any version at all on some models. It's the first time that google experience phones will get update after the others...and the comments after mine seem not to disagree so much...
How is something that was never officially planned be suspended??

Jelly Bean Update Rolling Out Tomorrow

http://brobuffet.com/2012/07/18/nexus-s-jelly-bean-roll-out-coming-tomorrow/
you know I just wanna put something out there... Google said mid-july (not sure if they said only for galaxy nexus or for all devices) but can anyone see the same thing happening with jelly bean as did with ICS? this is gonna be a brutal wait i guarentee....
I'm only saying this to jinx myself and hopefully the OTA comes tmrw.
This is just speculation.
Of course it's coming out tomorrow....just like it came out yesterday, the day before, on friday....because if Vodafone Australia says it's coming out tomorrow, that means it's true
I do hope it's gonna come out soon, but I doubt it's gonna be tomorrow, just because a provider says it is.
MRsf27 said:
you know I just wanna put something out there... Google said mid-july (not sure if they said only for galaxy nexus or for all devices) but can anyone see the same thing happening with jelly bean as did with ICS? this is gonna be a brutal wait i guarentee....
I'm only saying this to jinx myself and hopefully the OTA comes tmrw.
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Yeah, hopefully it will. I don't see why it wouldn't
FloHimself said:
This is just speculation.
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Speculation it may be, but Google have confirmed a "mid-July" release, and if Vodafone say it's coming tomorrow we have no reason to disbelieve.
Logomotph said:
Of course it's coming out tomorrow....just like it came out yesterday, the day before, on friday....because if Vodafone Australia says it's coming out tomorrow, that means it's true
I do hope it's gonna come out soon, but I doubt it's gonna be tomorrow, just because a provider says it is.
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If a provider has set a time and date so close, I don't see why it wouldn't be released tomorrow. Yes, it is possible that the release may be delayed but I can't think why. Manufacturers have had early access to Jelly Bean so it's about time some devices received updates.
EDIT : There have been no other official claims of an official release. Mid-July is all people had to go on. But people started making silly guesses. Many thought it would be released on the 4th or the 13th. But there was little reason for this.
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If a provider has set a time and date so close, I don't see why it wouldn't be released tomorrow. Yes, it is possible that the release may be delayed but I can't think why. Manufacturers have had early access to Jelly Bean so it's about time some devices received updates.
EDIT : There have been no other official claims of an official release. Mid-July is all people had to go on. But people started making silly guesses. Many thought it would be released on the 4th or the 13th. But there was little reason for this.
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I'm just gonna wait for an official Google announcement. Providers can say whatever they want just to make people buy things.
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There's about 5 topics about this already, including a locked one like four topics down
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There's about 5 topics about this already, including a locked one like four topics down
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My bad. But I fail to see any threads in the Nexus S General Forum :S There is one regarding a French carrier.
Yes, they said mid-july for all devices.
Difference to ICS: We have an announced release-date (more or less exact). Last time they shipped 4.0.3 as a surprise, pulled it after a few days and then remained silent for 3 months until 4.0.4 came out.
Big difference.
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I'm just gonna wait for an official Google announcement. Providers can say whatever they want just to make people buy things.
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There won't be anymore announcements.. Google already said mid-July.. The last announcement they will probably do will be the day that OTA will start, but they don't need to... And I'm not sure why would Vodafone lie with it to gain more costumers (or buy Nexus S), since you can't buy it from providers already
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There won't be anymore announcements.. Google already said mid-July.. The last announcement they will probably do will be the day that OTA will start, but they don't need to... And I'm not sure why would Vodafone lie with it to gain more costumers (or buy Nexus S), since you can't buy it from providers already
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I was referring to a "We're rolling out the OTA for the Nexus S" announcement.
I'm not German, but here is some info too
http://m.diepresse.com/home/techscience/mobil/android/1268697/index.do
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lowtje said:
I'm not German, but here is some info too
http://m.diepresse.com/home/techscience/mobil/android/1268697/index.do
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The article just repeats the Vodafone OZ info.
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I'm not German, but here is some info too
http://m.diepresse.com/home/techscience/mobil/android/1268697/index.do
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just a recap what vodafone says.
I dont get why everyone feels the need to open up a new thread about this instead of going to the countdown thread! You guys seriously need to think about your lifes. Get out, do something fun and for god'S sake leave your computer or xda untouched for a day. It's really not healthy to be so obsessed about JB. I'm excited, too but i'd rather go for a sunbath than sitting in front of my computer waiting for an ota which does not come.
Why are you even so excited about what a carrier or a french blog says? I don't give a single sh... about them. I'm just interested in what google says. Don't get your hopes up cause of this! You will most likely just be disappointed. Same thing with these screenshots about the 4.0.4 ota with this date. Everyone is so damn sure that JB will be pushed when we hit this date. So, OTA is expected to hit us FOR SURE!!! every day since like the 8th...
Long story short: CHILL OUT!!
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Damn right Mike.b93... Do I see some similarity with iphoners sleeping on the street just to be the first to get a 5S or a 6S?
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Damn right Mike.b93... Do I see some similarity with iphoners sleeping on the street just to be the first to get a 5S or a 6S?
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We are at least as insane as iPhone users. except we are not sleeping in the street waiting for a new phone, we are staying awake waiting for a freaking OTA! At first i did that too but to be honest after a few days it gets way too pathetic for me. I enjoy my life outside the house. Thats how I wait! and i can recommend that!
Guess we all love the Nexus S...I was anxious too when going from GB to ICS. Best is left time roll and get JB when time comes not beeing a priority... But that comes with age though
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the lack of excitement here is unfathomable. of course its exciting and besides its the dead of winter for me so I have no sun to bathe in.
Brobuffet? Oh dear.....
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yeah i think all voda customers are going ot be happy here in australia. its a pity i bought my phone from voda then unlocked it and am using it with a diff carrier. do if anyone gets the update, can they post the link here?

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