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[Q] Would you recommend me this phone?

Hello guys. As you can see I'm a happy user of X8 but I'm interested in buying Xperia Play late August but I don't know anyone who owns this phone to eventually borrow it for a day or two and I don't want to be disappointed after the purchase. I can say that I'm addicted to games and IMHO this phone is just perfect for me. I have watched many revisions and read many articles about this phone but still I'm not so sure if I will be happy. I need YOUR opinion, dear Users so I want to ask You some questions:
1. Is this phone good? Will I be happy?
2. Have You found something You aren't happy with?
3. Are all of these PSone games working well?
4. What about battery usage? X8 lasts for one stupid day of normal usage...
5. Is the gingerbread satisfying? I mean is it fast and reliable?
6. Is the screen brightness good? I've heard that the auto-brightness pisses off is it true?
7. What about the pirces of the exclusives? (NOVA 2, GOF 2, Minecraft etc.)
8. Any other things you want to share with me to convince me to buy this beauty?
best regards

1.It is a good phone.
2.yes,NO zoom ,a lot of bloatware (when i bought the phone 200 mb out of 400mb where already used)
3.I have Tetris and Crash and they work smooth -no problems but it's a problem with buying games -stupid ps region ...
3.1 The rest of the games work good and have good graphics
4.Depends ... If you play non-stop a game that has over 150 mb you can make it last max 3 hours ,if it's idle it can last 2-3 days without recharge.
5.Here I can't really answer because this is my first Android phone so I started directly with gingerbread and has minor bugs...and sometimes slow on activating/deactivating stuff like Wi-Fi ,bluetooth ,Mobile networks.
6.The screen brightness is good and the auto-brigtness rarely kicks in so I'm not bothered .
7.Kind of expencive for me,but there are always some offers from gameloft(sometimes you get a free full game like Asphalt 6,Rainbow 6)
8.It's big and heavy and after 2 hours of playing your hands will go numb and if you are attacked by someone you can use the phone to protect yourself.
and It boots very very slow...around 2-3 mins

Forget everything. If your a gamer this is your phone period.
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sdlaurin said:
Forget everything. If your a gamer this is your phone period.
Sent from my R800a using XDA Premium App
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This, pretty much
if your a gamer you will forgive whatever short comings this phone has

Ok, thank you for the info
I will share my experience with you in this post after buying this beauty
See ya!

romcio47 said:
Hello guys. As you can see I'm a happy user of X8 but I'm interested in buying Xperia Play late August but I don't know anyone who owns this phone to eventually borrow it for a day or two and I don't want to be disappointed after the purchase. I can say that I'm addicted to games and IMHO this phone is just perfect for me. I have watched many revisions and read many articles about this phone but still I'm not so sure if I will be happy. I need YOUR opinion, dear Users so I want to ask You some questions:
1. Is this phone good? Will I be happy?
2. Have You found something You aren't happy with?
3. Are all of these PSone games working well?
4. What about battery usage? X8 lasts for one stupid day of normal usage...
5. Is the gingerbread satisfying? I mean is it fast and reliable?
6. Is the screen brightness good? I've heard that the auto-brightness ticks off is it true?
7. What about the pirces of the exclusives? (NOVA 2, GOF 2, Minecraft etc.)
8. Any other things you want to share with me to convince me to buy this beauty?
best regards
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1: The phone is great. I'm very hard to please with technology but I'm in love with this.
2: I wish the screen was a little brighter and you could disable automatic brightness. The internal memory could have a bit more available space, but after you root and de-bloat, it's better. Mine boots in about 15 seconds, too.
3: One word: FPSE. Don't bother with the PlayStation Pocket, FPSE is on a higher level.
4: Between quite a few phone calls and a few texts with a good deal of gaming, I was at 18% by 3:00 A.M. I took it off the charger at 8:00 A.M. the previous day.
5: Gingerbread is much better than Froyo for me.
6: See #2.
7: They aren't too bad. You're generally paying for high-quality games, so they're sometimes a few bucks more than the Android Market.
8: Buy it if you like games. If you don't, get something dual-core.

Got this beauty yesterday and I must say - I'm proud of it. This phone is just great, perfect, marvelous! Absolutely no lags while using it, perfect performance while playing games. I'm a little bit disappointed about LED place - is this a joke? LED integrated with lock/unlock key? Hah.
But there is something I just can't do for now - unlock the bootloader. My phone doesn't launch fastboot ;(
cheers for all of You devs/mods everyone and especially for users who wrote this quick reviews to convince me to buy this phone
Can't say nothing more but just - Thank You

Galaxy Tab 2 7" owners input wanted.

Hey guys i'm not from this forum but from the galaxy ace forums.
I'm looking into buying this tab but I just want to know how good is it to live with everyday. I'll just be using it for everyday tasks, web browsing, music, movies and regular fooling around but I would also be starting my masters degree soon so I will want to to take some basic notes and that sort of thing.
I would also like to know how easy it is to root and install custom roms on it, also on average what kind of overclocks can be achieved if I ever need any extra horse power. I was also looking at the Nexus 7 but that does not have any expandable memory slot which sucks and also I think 4 cores for a 7" tab is just being wasteful .
But any way, what are your thoughts on it, I've watched and read the reviews and I know its a good tab I just a want to know how good is it a month or 2 later.
Thanks again for any input guys.

The only thing I wouldn't use it for would be note taking because of trying to type on the keyboard would feel to slow for me. For note taking, I'd think the Note 10.1 would be great because of the s-pen that you could use. It is really easy to flash anything custom to the tablet, just flash recovery via Odin or Heimdall, then boot into recovery and flash whatever you want. I use my tablet for web browsing and as an e-reader and it's fit my uses just fine. Also thinking of using it as a "portable" media player as well since the audio output from the small speakers is really good IMO, and it also has the same audio codec as the SGS3, WM1811, which is a really good audio processor.

amd-dude said:
Hey guys i'm not from this forum but from the galaxy ace forums.
I'm looking into buying this tab but I just want to know how good is it to live with everyday. I'll just be using it for everyday tasks, web browsing, music, movies and regular fooling around but I would also be starting my masters degree soon so I will want to to take some basic notes and that sort of thing.
I would also like to know how easy it is to root and install custom roms on it, also on average what kind of overclocks can be achieved if I ever need any extra horse power. I was also looking at the Nexus 7 but that does not have any expandable memory slot which sucks and also I think 4 cores for a 7" tab is just being wasteful .
But any way, what are your thoughts on it, I've watched and read the reviews and I know its a good tab I just a want to know how good is it a month or 2 later.
Thanks again for any input guys.
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go for it its an excellent tab...
No lags at all...
All your needs will satisfied in a premium touch even without rooting/overclocking the tablet...
It can be overclocked to 1.3 ghz and for rooting tutorial search the forum you will get it...

Thanks for the speedy replies guys...I'm really leaning toward this tab just because of its' priceerformance ratio

Its a great tablet for its price.
Pros-
Sim supported, 3G with 14.4 Mbps speed
Good battery life (comparing to other tablets)
Light weight and looks awesome in white color
64 GB Expandable memory
USB On the go support
Cons-
Some awesome games are not supported (i think it because its new developers will add support soon)
No Gorilla Glass
No HDMI

The Samsung galaxy is full worth the money dude I'm 24x7 online in it using 2g gprs the battery stands for more than one day and the screen on time is 5 to 7 hours depends on the usage with games and stuff that means you can continuous use upto 5 to 7 hours till drain this is he only best tab at 18k to 20 k price range with ICS and don't forget to update to 4.0.4 from 4.0.3 from the box good luck
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Well, I strongly disagree about the note taking, I use Evernote, and for note taking it has been a dream-come-true! Its optimized for our screens, and syncs to their servers for backup. Price is very good for what you get. It has a couple of things other 7" tablets dont have, such as GPS (Glonass), and an IR emitter (universal remote for your entertainment system).
This tablet has also had most of its source code released so all the devs here should, in theory, have a field day hacking at it. It also has a very decent CPU and GPU; these chips are used in many other devices aswell, so their technically should be tons of support for lots of games and apps that indulge in nicer hardware (they run smoother, sometimes).
This has become my main music device. I use bluetooth headphones and they, and my tab, support Bluetooth 3.0 and Apt-X Bluetooth lossless audio codec by CSR; listening to music is simply delightful!

Bought mine to replace a Arnova 10g2 that was just not up to the job i wonted it for which was to read E books and Comics (My father now has it now! He loves it?) as the screen was really poor! Happy with the Tab 2 once over-clocked and cyanmod flashed! Got a bit disappointed with the announcement of the Galaxy 7 until they mentioned the lack of external memory support! Still if they release a Nexus 7 with external memory! Then I think my mother might soon be the owner of a nearly new Tab 2! lol!
Good screen, plays Dead Trigger well and SD Slot! What more could you ask for?

amd-dude said:
Hey guys i'm not from this forum but from the galaxy ace forums.
I'm looking into buying this tab but I just want to know how good is it to live with everyday. I'll just be using it for everyday tasks, web browsing, music, movies and regular fooling around but I would also be starting my masters degree soon so I will want to to take some basic notes and that sort of thing.
I would also like to know how easy it is to root and install custom roms on it, also on average what kind of overclocks can be achieved if I ever need any extra horse power. I was also looking at the Nexus 7 but that does not have any expandable memory slot which sucks and also I think 4 cores for a 7" tab is just being wasteful .
But any way, what are your thoughts on it, I've watched and read the reviews and I know its a good tab I just a want to know how good is it a month or 2 later.
Thanks again for any input guys.
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I'm generally pretty happy with this tablet, it was supposed to be a stopgap tablet until the Nexus 7 was officially announced but once I realized that there would be no external storage (which I pretty much knew anyway) I stuck around with this.
I'm not happy with the tablet but I am content with it, if that makes sense.
It doesn't have the fastest processors/gpu, the screen isn't the greatest and the proprietary dock (makes having to buy all new accessories a pain) but as
long as you come into this tablet knowing what to expect, then it's pretty damned good. It doesn't have a huge Rom community but that also cuts down on the over saturation
from some of the more popular phones (have you seen the Galaxy sII or Desire HD forums?!? Ai yi yi) off the top of my head, I think this has a Stripped down stock Rom,
CM9, CM10 (alpha) maybe a Miui Rom which covers all the major basics as far as I'm aware.
I've been running CM9 RC2 since about 2 weeks after I bought this and I'm pretty happy and Once I wake up from this nap I'll probably be flashing CM9 stable & supercharge
it.
I know that I didn't really productively answer your questions but I hope I gave you some perspective on the tablet.
P.S. The thing I hate and I mean hate is the limited internal memory (I think it's 4.7gb or some such) which didn't seem bad at first cuz I was planning
on buying a 32gb card for everything, but apps especially games chew into that space so damn quickly and it doesn't get saved to teh ext card instead, even though I have all my media moved to the external card, I still run into scenario's where I can't update apps because I get that dreaded notification Tablet space is low.
Dev's are working on ways to utilise ext cards for storage bbut there is nothing stable I'm willing to try yet.

I'm running CM1O and its sooooo cool.
The Tab itself is very nice to touch and use . The tab has a nice weight to it and is balanced to hold. one draw back is the placement of the speakers.... sometimes playing games the sound becomes "muffled" due to hand/control positioning. Same as charging /playing music , It is sometimes awkward to use, but not overpowering.
Cant say i have any issues with the Tab , apart from the ones that i have caused lol.
Screen quality is VERY good for a budget tablet /size, same as sound quality.
Storage could become an issue but has workarounds , but over all........ WOW.....LOVIN IT !!!11!!!

I liked it when I bought it but the Nexus 7 is far and away the better 7" tablet in my opinion with one exception. The advantage of the Samsung is the internal micro SD. If you are staying stock, and want to watch media from non cloud based sources, the Samsung is better. If you will be rooting, you can use an OTG USB cable and use micro sd cards on the 7. The 7 is better in almost every other way and has a plain JB interface without the extra bloat Samsung puts on their tablets. My guess is we may never even see an official Jelly Bean release for the Galaxy 2 given the speed at which Samsung updates their software. Of course, there are multiple JB ROM's already out for the Galaxy 2, just not stock versions.
My Galaxy 2 died last weekend. It would just go dead and then required you plug in to the computer and hold the power button for 60 seconds. As soon as the screen would shut off, the same issue occurred. I called Samsung and they were very quick to send me a shipping label to return it for repair. Within 4 days the unit was supposedly repaired with a "Software Upgrade (External Factor)" whatever that means. It should arrive back on Tuesday. Hopefully it is fixed.
Just my opinion....

amd-dude said:
Hey guys i'm not from this forum but from the galaxy ace forums.
I'm looking into buying this tab but I just want to know how good is it to live with everyday. I'll just be using it for everyday tasks, web browsing, music, movies and regular fooling around but I would also be starting my masters degree soon so I will want to to take some basic notes and that sort of thing.
I would also like to know how easy it is to root and install custom roms on it, also on average what kind of overclocks can be achieved if I ever need any extra horse power. I was also looking at the Nexus 7 but that does not have any expandable memory slot which sucks and also I think 4 cores for a 7" tab is just being wasteful .
But any way, what are your thoughts on it, I've watched and read the reviews and I know its a good tab I just a want to know how good is it a month or 2 later.
Thanks again for any input guys.
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I have no complaints. Does everything my Thrive does , i can put JB on, and have used this as a credit Card terminal. I had audio issues with a custom rom and video playback, nothing major. Only things i dont care for are the stock predictive text and that some of my tegra specific apps dont work (this having and OMAP cpu and all).
Was definitely worth the cash since it actually outperforms my Thrive for most uses and cost half as much. Thrive wins points for the full sized usb and hdmi ports though.

Thank you all for your time on replying...I think this is the tab I am gonna settle on...a good solid all rounder.

I have this (the 3G version) for a week now. So far I'm perfectly happy with the purchase. Excellent value for money.

I really like my tab 2 7.0", but....
My Pros
- TouchWiz actually has some nice apps on this device. File manager, email, pop-up apps, power toggles are nice features
- Speakers are awesome
- Expandable memory
- Works great with USB thumb drives, mouse and keyboard (with adapter)
My Cons
- Screen resolution sucks, things are blurry (like most Android tablets). Some newer devices like Nexus 7, Asus Infinity, iPad3 have HD screens
- No TV out
- TouchWiz although I think is quite nice slows it down at times. I rooted and froze a ton of unwanted apps. Not all can be to be disabled through native ICS settings
- Chrome that comes with the latest update crashes a lot. New bookmark widget is also bad. Install ICS browser+ from the market instead.

I got it yesterday, rooted and installed AOKP JB. The size feels perfectly great to me. I have not cycled the battery enough to give any input on tat. Games run awesomly well, including minecraft PE on fancy graphics. Its an awesome tab, i love it
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The Tab27" wireless reciever is weak compared to the Nexus 7

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The Tab27" wireless reciever is weak compared to the Nexus 7
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the wireless receiver on galaxy tab 2 7" is the worst thing on this tablet, the second is the battery life with wifi on! i got mine, i like it but......

For typing, Thumb Keyboard is the best coming from a blackberry. The split keyboard is excellent and fully customizable. The only issue is holding this in portrait mode leads to the death grip but if you are note taking and don't need a strong wifi connection you got to try it. Landscape mode resolves this also.
I am going to try a custom rom to help boost this baby up a bit.

Yea this device may start out with OK performance but it does get pretty laggy. Rooting and running a Jellybean ROM will increase performance a good amount.
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Do you recommend Nexus 7 ?

Hello guys... First of, I have never used a tablet before so I need your suggestions and opinions about this device.
- Does this device lag if I fill my homescreen with widgets that constantly refresh after intervals like rss feeds, gmail, facebook, youtube, weather ?
- I have been reading threads about games lagging on it, like nova 3, asphalt. Also I read there are random turns in Shadowgun and dead trigger. Is this issue resolved or any hope it will be resolved? Also does small games like Fruit ninja, Where's my water, Templerun look stretched out on 7" screen or it manages it beautifully?
- How is the build quality ? Is it strong enough that it can manage the falls from short distance ? Considering its price, I am very curious to know about its build.
- Is this a good choice, If I sell my smartphone and get Nexus 7 and a simple phone to manage calls and sms.
- Overall, how much will you rate your Nexus7 out of score of 10.
Your opinions are very much appreciated, please also tell me if you own Nexus 7 or you read the above answers somewhere.

mehdi110z said:
Hello guys... First of, I have never used a tablet before so I need your suggestions and opinions about this device.
- Does this device lag if I fill my homescreen with widgets that constantly refresh after intervals like rss feeds, gmail, facebook, youtube, weather ?
- I have been reading threads about games lagging on it, like nova 3, asphalt. Also I read there are random turns in Shadowgun and dead trigger. Is this issue resolved or any hope it will be resolved? Also does small games like Fruit ninja, Where's my water, Templerun look stretched out on 7" screen or it manages it beautifully?
- How is the build quality ? Is it strong enough that it can manage the falls from short distance ? Considering its price, I am very curious to know about its build.
- Is this a good choice, If I sell my smartphone and get Nexus 7 and a simple phone to manage calls and sms.
- Overall, how much will you rate your Nexus7 out of score of 10.
Your opinions are very much appreciated, please also tell me if you own Nexus 7 or you read the above answers somewhere.
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First of all, I don't have the Nexus 7 yet, but I am familiar with the most stuff around.
- I used the way slower Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 @1,38 GHz with Android 4.1.1, very smooth & "buttery", I can't believe that the faster Nexus 7 would lag here
- Gaming: Sorry, no idea.
- Well, it can't be that bad crap from Asus, it's cheap because of missing things (eg back camera & light, microSD-card slot). It has a Gorilla Glass display, that's really good -> check out Ericas XDA Video: http://www.xda-developers.com/xda-t...ass-drops-tests-composition-xda-developer-tv/
- I own also a Galaxy Nexus, use it mobile/out of the house and anywhere and I don't wanna miss that one. It will be a "it depends on" thing. Honestly, more important to me it's the smartphone.
- Ratings - it also depends on. But for my usage it would be about 8/10.

benkxda said:
First of all, I don't have the Nexus 7 yet, but I am familiar with the most stuff around.
- I used the way slower Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 @1,38 GHz with Android 4.1.1, very smooth & "buttery", I can't believe that the faster Nexus 7 would lag here
- Gaming: Sorry, no idea.
- Well, it can't be that bad crap from Asus, it's cheap because of missing things (eg back camera & light, microSD-card slot). It has a Gorilla Glass display, that's really good -> check out Ericas XDA Video: http://www.xda-developers.com/xda-t...ass-drops-tests-composition-xda-developer-tv/
- I own also a Galaxy Nexus, use it mobile/out of the house and anywhere and I don't wanna miss that one. It will be a "it depends on" thing. Honestly, more important to me it's the smartphone.
- Ratings - it also depends on. But for my usage it would be about 8/10.
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Thanks. I am confused between smartphone and tablet, want to enjoy youtube,browser,games on bigger screen but dont want to give my smartphone

mehdi110z said:
Thanks. I am confused between smartphone and tablet, want to enjoy youtube,browser,games on bigger screen but dont want to give my smartphone
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Well, I use both. At home I just update the Galaxy Nexus but use the Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 for surfing from the couch. The GTab 2 is sold and will be replaced by the Nexus 7 16 GB.
If you want to save money, buy a Nexus 7 with 8 GB, buy a USB OTG cable and use a USB stick or small USB plug for more memory. Then you could use the USB OTG + USB stick with your Smartphone as well, if it has also an micro USB slot and if the kernel supports USB OTG.
I dont' know, if the Nexus 7 natively supports USB OTG, but Francisco Francos kernel does this for the Galaxy Nexus and I guess, this will work with the new Nexus 7 kernel also: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1367341
Edit: Maybe helps you: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30803801#post30803801

mehdi110z said:
Hello guys... First of, I have never used a tablet before so I need your suggestions and opinions about this device.
- Does this device lag if I fill my homescreen with widgets that constantly refresh after intervals like rss feeds, gmail, facebook, youtube, weather ?
- I have been reading threads about games lagging on it, like nova 3, asphalt. Also I read there are random turns in Shadowgun and dead trigger. Is this issue resolved or any hope it will be resolved? Also does small games like Fruit ninja, Where's my water, Templerun look stretched out on 7" screen or it manages it beautifully?
- How is the build quality ? Is it strong enough that it can manage the falls from short distance ? Considering its price, I am very curious to know about its build.
- Is this a good choice, If I sell my smartphone and get Nexus 7 and a simple phone to manage calls and sms.
- Overall, how much will you rate your Nexus7 out of score of 10.
Your opinions are very much appreciated, please also tell me if you own Nexus 7 or you read the above answers somewhere.
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No of will not lag at all
Sometimes this happened because they might not be built for the tegra 3, the problem of asphalt 7.
Small games are awesome and I prefer them on my n7.
Build quality is very good, fell on the stairs and dropped my nexus, not a scratch.
I have a regular phone to call and text and my nexus works fine. Although you can get tablet all and use your nexus and use it as a phone working with your smartphone.
My nexus is a........ 9 1\2 out of 10
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I have my Nexus for over a month now, i dont use it heavily for gaming but it runs temple run beautifully.. id say the 7" screen actually suits it a bit better than smaller phone screens..
Here's an interesting article i read on tegra 3 the other day
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/df-hardware-how-powerful-is-tegra-3
Thats an interesting idea about selling your smartphone and going for the nexus.. a lot of the functions i use my smartphone for as easy/easier to replicate on the nexus 7. I have a Galaxy Nexus phone but wouldnt part with it. I run tablet talk on both the 7 and phone so can send/receive texts on the tablet. If you do go for a cheaper phone make sure you can still use it as a portable hotspot so you can tether the nexus 7 to it, unless you are always in wifi coverage
Re build quality - I would say its fine.. its probably no better/worse than any smart phone/tablet nowadays.. if you drop it and it doesnt have a case, you are going to damage the corners.. it will probably survive but i wouldnt be without a case on any device like this.
The home screen doesnt lag, Some apps cause lag, I had an app called ultimate rotation control and it would take a few seconds for the icons on my home screen to redraw when rotating the tablet. im still not sure whether i'd like the home screen to rotate or accept googles stance that its better than its always in portrait mode.
Anyway good luck deciding oh and out of 10.. for me so far its 10/10... if i could improve i'd say put a higher quality DAC in the device.. but hopefully some android compatible usb DACS will be available to purchase soon..
Cheers,
Mick
mehdi110z said:
Hello guys... First of, I have never used a tablet before so I need your suggestions and opinions about this device.
- Does this device lag if I fill my homescreen with widgets that constantly refresh after intervals like rss feeds, gmail, facebook, youtube, weather ?
- I have been reading threads about games lagging on it, like nova 3, asphalt. Also I read there are random turns in Shadowgun and dead trigger. Is this issue resolved or any hope it will be resolved? Also does small games like Fruit ninja, Where's my water, Templerun look stretched out on 7" screen or it manages it beautifully?
- How is the build quality ? Is it strong enough that it can manage the falls from short distance ? Considering its price, I am very curious to know about its build.
- Is this a good choice, If I sell my smartphone and get Nexus 7 and a simple phone to manage calls and sms.
- Overall, how much will you rate your Nexus7 out of score of 10.
Your opinions are very much appreciated, please also tell me if you own Nexus 7 or you read the above answers somewhere.
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mehdi110z said:
Hello guys... First of, I have never used a tablet before so I need your suggestions and opinions about this device.
- Does this device lag if I fill my homescreen with widgets that constantly refresh after intervals like rss feeds, gmail, facebook, youtube, weather ?
- I have been reading threads about games lagging on it, like nova 3, asphalt. Also I read there are random turns in Shadowgun and dead trigger. Is this issue resolved or any hope it will be resolved? Also does small games like Fruit ninja, Where's my water, Templerun look stretched out on 7" screen or it manages it beautifully?
- How is the build quality ? Is it strong enough that it can manage the falls from short distance ? Considering its price, I am very curious to know about its build.
- Is this a good choice, If I sell my smartphone and get Nexus 7 and a simple phone to manage calls and sms.
- Overall, how much will you rate your Nexus7 out of score of 10.
Your opinions are very much appreciated, please also tell me if you own Nexus 7 or you read the above answers somewhere.
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Hi there, I actually upgraded to both a Galaxy Nexus and a Nexus 7 coming from a Nexus One. The Nexus 7 being my first tablet, it fills my need for a portable entertainment device (games, media, news, browsing). Going on to your questions:
Lag Issue: No lag from widgets although it depends on what ROM you have. I used stock for a week with 3 active home screens filled with widgets and I experienced no hiccups whatsoever. I've been using AOSP based ROMS with the Apex launcher without lagginess as well.
Games: As mentioned by people above me, the lag is due to the developers and not the OS. As an example, I've been playing Max Payne and have experienced the touchscreen being unresponsive or having random turns. After the update a few days ago, all issues have been fixed. Temple Run scales well IMO.
Build Quality: Mine experiences the screen flicker and screen lift, but it isn't a deal breaker. It still is under warranty so I can ask for repairs, repair it myself, or ask for a replacement. The back and screen is a smudge magnet (I have oily hands) so it would be best to buy a case and screen protector the same time you buy the Nexus 7.
Downgrading smartphone: Depends on what kind of smartphone you have. If you have a phone from the past year, the Nexus 7 will complement it nicely. In my case, I still regularly use my phone for emails, SMS, calls, and some games, so you won't lose any utility out of your phone if you buy a Nexus 7.
Rating: I'd rate my Nexus 7 to an 8/10 with the minus points being the build quality.

- Does this device lag if I fill my homescreen with widgets that constantly refresh after intervals like rss feeds, gmail, facebook, youtube, weather ?
The N7 is well spec'd and punches above its weight. I have rarely, if ever, noted any slow down. I don't have a ton of stuff over my home screens but the usual. Very impressed with performance.
- I have been reading threads about games lagging on it, like nova 3, asphalt. Also I read there are random turns in Shadowgun and dead trigger. Is this issue resolved or any hope it will be resolved? Also does small games like Fruit ninja, Where's my water, Templerun look stretched out on 7" screen or it manages it beautifully?
I used to be a big online fps play in my youth (kids seem to have taken over now!) so I haven't played many games on mine, but I have tested a few. I found no problems with Dead Trigger, it looks fantastic and seems as smooth as I could possibly want. If there is an issue with slowing down I haven't noticed it but then I have only played through a few levels.
- How is the build quality ? Is it strong enough that it can manage the falls from short distance ? Considering its price, I am very curious to know about its build.
It certainly feels well built. But I have noted a couple of people complain on Twitter that they have broken theirs by dropping it. My view on this is that these things are being dropped everyday - they've sold millions and people can be clumsy (my toddler plays with mine!). Inevitably some are going to fall the wrong way and will break. Mine isn't wrapped up in cotton wool but it cost enough to want to take reasonable care of it - perhaps the best advice is try not to drop it!
- Is this a good choice, If I sell my smartphone and get Nexus 7 and a simple phone to manage calls and sms.
It depends. Do you need 3G access? Do you like having a handy camera in your phone? The N7 is very portable, but you wouldn't want to slip it in your pocket on a night out. I think only you can judge this.
- Overall, how much will you rate your Nexus7 out of score of 10.
I'd give it a 9. I really love it but I wanted SD card expansion so that was my compromise. There are ways to live with this though and you'll find plenty of chat on the forum. Flash support is another niggle. Other than that there's not much I'd change.

Honestly the best $250 I've ever spent. Lacking in a few areas but Deff wished they put in a micro sd slot. Regardless still give it a 9/10
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benkxda said:
First of all, I don't have the Nexus 7 yet, but I am familiar with the most stuff around.
- I used the way slower Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 @1,38 GHz with Android 4.1.1, very smooth & "buttery", I can't believe that the faster Nexus 7 would lag here
- Gaming: Sorry, no idea.
- Well, it can't be that bad crap from Asus, it's cheap because of missing things (eg back camera & light, microSD-card slot). It has a Gorilla Glass display, that's really good -> check out Ericas XDA Video: http://www.xda-developers.com/xda-t...ass-drops-tests-composition-xda-developer-tv/
- I own also a Galaxy Nexus, use it mobile/out of the house and anywhere and I don't wanna miss that one. It will be a "it depends on" thing. Honestly, more important to me it's the smartphone.
- Ratings - it also depends on. But for my usage it would be about 8/10.
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The Nexus 7 does not have Gorilla Glass. It's just a scratch resistant glass from Corning.

i would say it needs a screen protector.. the first nexus 7 i had the kids managed to get some hair line scatches on it.. i managed to sell it for full purchase price and bought a new one... i am quite anal about scratched screeens! i havent taken the replacement out of its plastic wrap yet.. am waiting for screen protector to arrive
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The Nexus 7 does not have Gorilla Glass. It's just a scratch resistant glass from Corning.
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veeman said:
The Nexus 7 does not have Gorilla Glass. It's just a scratch resistant glass from Corning.
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Argh. You're right. I always assumed that this is Gorilla Glass. Google did not agree, just said "scratch-resistant Corning glass". I'm sorry .

Since I bought my Nexus 7, I don't use my galaxy s2 anymore, only for calls nexus 7 is perfect for browsing YouTube videos and gaming
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is note 10.1 good for hardcore gaming ?!

just as the question states ,is it good for hardcore gaming ?

xKLDx said:
just as the question states ,is it good for hardcore gaming ?
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As good as any other device I suppose :3 everything on android can be played well on a galaxy nexus let alone the note.
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There are some games that are not compatible with the Exynos processor. So those games that require Tegra tech, are not playable on the Note, unless you install a patch, but I heard few reports of that patch bricking some tablets.
However, beside those, the Note 10.1 has all power you can pretty much get with $500 with android installed on it. So having the best of the best should mean that you should be able to run the compatible games like butter. It does get a lil warm after extended gaming tho. The tablet has some extremely good battery life, however, I notice that when playing the battery goes to hell pretty quick (like 3 or 4 hrs); graphics on big screen has some toll on the battery I guess.

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There are some games that are not compatible with the Exynos processor. So those games that require Tegra tech, are not playable on the Note, unless you install a patch, but I heard few reports of that patch bricking some tablets.
However, beside those, the Note 10.1 has all power you can pretty much get with $500 with android installed on it. So having the best of the best should mean that you should be able to run the compatible games like butter. It does get a lil warm after extended gaming tho. The tablet has some extremely good battery life, however, I notice that when playing the battery goes to hell pretty quick (like 3 or 4 hrs); graphics on big screen has some toll on the battery I guess.
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hmmm , and are these tegra requiring games too many ?!
i mean, how much is the percentage of tegra only games ?

i beleive th note has mali 400 graphics like the note 2 compared to GPUs like the tegra 3 on nexus 7. So far i havent done much gaming on it other than 3d scores on quadrant(yeah yeah i know

you can check tegra zone for the game list but half of those are not even THD anymore ^_^v

I haven't come across act games that don't work with exynos ( I own ALOT of games) only ones would be tegra exclusives which there isn't many of those. Tbh if you want the best gaming machine get a tegra or the nexus 10, the n10 has more horsepower and now that throttling issues have mostly been resolved it has a higher resolution screen good for games.
Also I don't think you need an adapter for HDMI out, I think it uses micro HDMI
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xKLDx said:
just as the question states ,is it good for hardcore gaming ?
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What is hardcore gaming to you?

kkretch said:
What is hardcore gaming to you?
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especially on a tablet...

Suppose your definition of "hardcore gaming" is warranted as mobile isn't known for it lol
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ECOTOX said:
I haven't come across act games that don't work with exynos ( I own ALOT of games) only ones would be tegra exclusives which there isn't many of those. Tbh if you want the best gaming machine get a tegra or the nexus 10, the n10 has more horsepower and now that throttling issues have mostly been resolved it has a higher resolution screen good for games.
Also I don't think you need an adapter for HDMI out, I think it uses micro HDMI
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nexus 10 isn't available in my country :'(
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hmm yea the word actually was chosen wrong xD
i just mean playing any new more demanding games , i don't really know a lot of names now cuz i still didn't buy the thing but let's say modern combat 4 , need for speed most wanted and things like that
i'm just trying to compare the gaming on it to ipad 4 , yes i know that ipad games look a lot better , but i just need them to look good cuz everybody is telling me that customization in android is a lot cooler than the ios stability

I offer you to buy nexus 7 or ipad3 or 4(128gb is awesome) ,why? As all friends said most android devices are the same but with different progressor & each of them can't run other progressor games,
Why ipad?
-ipad isn't like this & can run all high-end games with maximum effects & graphics (for example runs dead trigger with water effect which only tegra devices can show this feature)
-Games release before android (like Real Racing 3 ,it's released a month ago for ios but its not still available at Google market)
-700,000 games & apps(android have 700,000 apps but it include Widgets, launchers, live wallpapers,lockers, themes, etc,...)
-all ios apps & games are tested by apple before uploading appStore, so no broken apps & viruses
-awesome battery life, 11,000mAh battery (more than 10 hour gaming with just one charging)
-perfect support (ex. IPhone 3gs gets ios6 update)
Choose the best & don't waste you money for note,buy 1 time buy the good 1
This is Jay-z-s

jay-z-s said:
I offer you to buy nexus 7 or ipad3 or 4(128gb is awesome) ,why? As all friends said most android devices are the same but with different progressor & each of them can't run other progressor games,
Why ipad?
-ipad isn't like this & can run all high-end games with maximum effects & graphics (for example runs dead trigger with water effect which only tegra devices can show this feature)
-Games release before android (like Real Racing 3 ,it's released a month ago for ios but its not still available at Google market)
-700,000 games & apps(android have 700,000 apps but it include Widgets, launchers, live wallpapers,lockers, themes, etc,...)
-all ios apps & games are tested by apple before uploading appStore, so no broken apps & viruses
-awesome battery life, 11,000mAh battery (more than 10 hour gaming with just one charging)
-perfect support (ex. IPhone 3gs gets ios6 update)
Choose the best & don't waste you money for note,buy 1 time buy the good 1
This is Jay-z-s
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He may want more than what the iPad can offer though. Also not every version of the iPhone will get the full update so support isn't perfect. As for virus or malware, Apple devices aren't impervious and the rate of infection on android Is grossly over exaggerated. Also not all I devices run Max effects, in fact most can't except the ipad2 and iphone4s.
The only processor that can't run the others as u say is tegra vs everyone else and it's not lack of ability that's the problem it's nvidia paying for exclusive content. Games released first is valid but every other point was uninformed FUD which I kindly ask you don't spread around these forums. Think about the fact that you're posting in a forum where there are people who ACTUALLY know what they are talking about.
Edit: Just one of many articles to prove my point on malware threat on both platforms
http://m.cnet.com/news/should-malware-risks-factor-into-the-iphone-vs-android-debate/57557684?ds=1
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yea ECOTOX is right !
i kinda don't want to be stuck with the standard ipad looks , i want something i can play around with
its not all about games , i don't want to run EVERY GAME out there , i just want a lot of games so that when i want to play , i won't be in shortage of games , but i have many other things to do with the tab

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Why I asked this is that I think any real "hardcore gamer" would not purchase a tablet of any brand to play games.
Hardcore gamer's have computers that they put many thousands of dollars into, they uses 2 or more monitors, 3 or more video cards, massive water cooler systems that are overclocked, they run gigabit modems, laser mice and special keyboards...... So.... my answer should have be NO.

^^ i know what a hardcore gamer is , and fyi , what u just talked about is a hardcore gamer with a ****load of money , there are hardcore gamers with less money like me that play on consoles (i have an x360) , but again i was talking only about the more demanding android games and got a wrong word , english aint my first lang man

ECOTOX said:
He may want more than what the iPad can offer though. Also not every version of the iPhone will get the full update so support isn't perfect. As for virus or malware, Apple devices aren't impervious and the rate of infection on android Is grossly over exaggerated. Also not all I devices run Max effects, in fact most can't except the ipad2 and iphone4s.
The only processor that can't run the others as u say is tegra vs everyone else and it's not lack of ability that's the problem it's nvidia paying for exclusive content. Games released first is valid but every other point was uninformed FUD which I kindly ask you don't spread around these forums. Think about the fact that you're posting in a forum where there are people who ACTUALLY know what they are talking about.
Edit: Just one of many articles to prove my point on malware threat on both platforms
http://m.cnet.com/news/should-malware-risks-factor-into-the-iphone-vs-android-debate/57557684?ds=1
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Come on,Let's just be honest
You're telling me android is better because you are an android user !
I'm talking about ipad3/4 & comparing to note 10 & NOT GALAXY TAB OR OUT-DATED DEVICE (like you comparing ipad 2 with high-end devices )(all HD effects are shown on ipad3,4 & I don't know about ipad2,never testedon )
Security is something that user will feel it when playing, browsing,etc...
All of us know that if you don't jailbreak your i-device it's the most secure operating system all around the world.hackers were working on ios6 jailbreak for about 2 months & this shows how secure is ios6. (As I said apps before uploading to appStore will be fully tested )
(((Cracked apps are absolutely a serious source of malware & I don't know you heard about the new method of installing cracked apps on ios without jailbreak, that's a negative point for ios user but if they download from store there will be no problem)))
It's his choice & I'm not forcing him to buy a beast!
Benchmarks are helpful at this moment (if you say note is more powerful in tests {not only CPU, all tests})
But if he is in love with s-pen we can't do anything about that, Ipad comes with huge range of accessories but it doesn't support a s-pen style captive pen(or I didnt seen that,maybe exists)
I still say Ipad & nothing can change my mind :beer: :thumbup: trying both tablets is recommended, judge by your self
Sorry for English, it's not my mother language
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jay-z-s said:
Come on,Let's just be honest
You're telling me android is better because you are an android user !
I'm talking about ipad3/4 & comparing to note 10 & NOT GALAXY TAB OR OUT-DATED DEVICE (like you comparing ipad 2 with high-end devices )(all HD effects are shown on ipad3,4 & I don't know about ipad2,never testedon )
Security is something that user will feel it when playing, browsing,etc...
All of us know that if you don't jailbreak your i-device it's the most secure operating system all around the world.hackers were working on ios6 jailbreak for about 2 months & this shows how secure is ios6. (As I said apps before uploading to appStore will be fully tested )
(((Cracked apps are absolutely a serious source of malware & I don't know you heard about the new method of installing cracked apps on ios without jailbreak, that's a negative point for ios user but if they download from store there will be no problem)))
It's his choice & I'm not forcing him to buy a beast!
Benchmarks are helpful at this moment (if you say note is more powerful in tests {not only CPU, all tests})
But if he is in love with s-pen we can't do anything about that, Ipad comes with huge range of accessories but it doesn't support a s-pen style captive pen(or I didnt seen that,maybe exists)
I still say Ipad & nothing can change my mind :beer: :thumbup: trying both tablets is recommended, judge by your self
Sorry for English, it's not my mother language
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If you read I didn't say even once android is better, not once. I also didn't mention a single outdated device, galaxy tab or otherwise. Also iPad 3&4 don't have all effects enabled as they can't at their resolution. ONLY the iPad 2 and iphone4s/5 do (nova3 looks 800x better on the iPad 2), all others prior can't handle full effects in all games, leaving the iPad 2 which at it's resolution has resources to spare the iOS gamers tab of choice. IOS is not the most secure, that is 1000% false, and it has malware just the same regardless of jailbreaking or not. Jailbreaking taking 2 months is a short period of time and in no way substantiates iOS security. Security is a state of mind for the user, you won't feel it ever during use because it isn't possible to "feel" system security. In fact both android and iOS are worse than blackberry in regards to security from my experience so by that logic that OS is the best. Googles apps store tests apps also, you just have less time between submitting the app and approval, malware rates on the play store are very low and when they do get on are removed quickly. 3rd party stores and sites are the main sources of malware on both platforms. I don't believe in one being better or worse, they're all just different. I really don't care what you pick but don't state opinion as fact because it isn't. you stated a opinion/view, one steming from inexperience and lack of knowledge, which is fine but again don't say anything you said is fact because it isn't.
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xKLDx said:
^^ i know what a hardcore gamer is , and fyi , what u just talked about is a hardcore gamer with a ****load of money , there are hardcore gamers with less money like me that play on consoles (i have an x360) , but again i was talking only about the more demanding android games and got a wrong word , english aint my first lang man
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The note will play everything just fine, but unless you want the spen there are better options like tegra3 or the nexus 10 if you can find a way to get one on eBay or something. So my advice is unless you want the spen, go w with something like the nexus 7 or 10, or whichever tegra3 or higher based devices you can get in your country.
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kkretch said:
Why I asked this is that I think any real "hardcore gamer" would not purchase a tablet of any brand to play games.
Hardcore gamer's have computers that they put many thousands of dollars into, they uses 2 or more monitors, 3 or more video cards, massive water cooler systems that are overclocked, they run gigabit modems, laser mice and special keyboards...... So.... my answer should have be NO.
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Are you in my room O.O? Lol
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Damn jay-z-s... this is the worst place for an IPad lover to make a point... (there is no point to be made anyway, lol) I am in the IT Business and I can tell you something... There is NOT a SINGLE person that I know... NOT even 1... That still thinks IPads are better than Android devices... if, if... the person tasted both devices. I can say that 99% of people (just for not saying a 100%) after using a device like a Note 2, Note 10.1... or S3... will go back to an IPhone or IPad. You just get in your hands an IPhone 5 and in your other hand a Note 2... and there is simply no comparison just by looking at it. You don't even have to do anything... don't even waste time turning them on, just look at them both for 10 seconds... and baaam... that's it. Market share for the IOS is going down at top speed, while Android's market keeps going up and up... Apple is going to have to wake up and start adding Micro SD card slots and do something really impressive with the ipads and iphones... because it will end up very bad for them... At least Microsoft now supports a full OS on their tablets... that's at least something to keep them on the market for more time... Not to be rude, but IOS in my opinion is simply a retard OS that you can just do pretty much nothing with it... With Android you can install another ROM... wow... another launcher, wow... widgets... wow... very, very customizable. With IOS... Hey... New version x.x.1... wow.... more locks! Less options! weeeeee! finally changed the settings icon after a week! Is that even possible? lol

okey thanks guys !
i'll go with the note for a few reasons
1.nexus 10 isn't available here and getting it from ebay i will pay a lot more than the price for the shipment and things like that
2.i want a 10" tablet so the nexus 7 won't be good for me cuz i want to watch movies and read stuff on a big screen
3.the s-pen and stereo speakers on the note look cool !!
so thanks again guys (Y)

opinions about the Tegra Note 7

I am looking to get some cheap tablet for my daughter, something that I can use as well (not a cheap Chinese tablet). I had nexus 7 2012 which is now broken so looking for an alternative.
I am interested to get one but I see that it is not famous even the forum is almost empty. Can someone tell me why. I see the specs and price are excellent.
I want to hear opinions from owners of this tab before getting it. what do/don't you like about this tab? before either getting this or nexus 7 2013.
what I like about this over the nexus is the speakers and the styles, they will be useful for me and my daughter (to listen to songs and draw things). but the nexus has more RAM and better support. I don't care about the camera (I have Z1 SGS4 and pro camera) or the resolution as long as the quality of the screen is good, my old nexus 7 screen is good enough.
what do you guys think? get it, get the nexus or do you have any other suggestion?

My problem with 1G RAM is not with opening apps or multitasking. But I am worried that the support for this tab will be dropped very soon because it won't have enough RAM. Most Manufacturers dropped support for device with 0.5 RAM and some even dropped support for devices with 1G RAM. I know that 4.4 tried to solve this issue but I still think that 1 G RAM isn't much and Tegra won't support this tab for long and will drop support after 4.4. What make this problem even more serious is that there is no much support for this tab from the community itself and not many ROMs available that could support this tab if nevidia gone this way. Any opinions?

Well, i think you gotta ask yourself a few questions if you consider buying the TN7.
1. How important is the screen? It's just like all the tests say, the screen ist not SO good. It's ok, i think the resolution is enough, and i am happy with the colors - its not like everything is blue or something. But it is just "ok" and could be better. (for example in the N7'13) (this might be interesting if your daughter wants to read alot)
2. Do you need the stylus? This was the #1 reason for me to get a TN7, and i love it. Good for drawing and writing, but also just for everyday use. I never touch the screen with my finger =)
3. Does your daughter need skype or something? The front camera is VERY bad, and not usable for anything. (640x480 i think, just VGA)
4. The speakers are superawesome. Loud, clear and in generel very good, it's fun to watch videos and movies.
So, in my opinion you should go for the TN7. Guess custom rom support and stuff is not important for your daughter, and for entertainment, drawing and stuff it's very good.
ps: the resolution is more then enough to read, the kindle 4 for exampe just got 800xsomething. but 1080 is better of course

ahomad said:
I am looking to get some cheap tablet for my daughter, something that I can use as well (not a cheap Chinese tablet). I had nexus 7 2012 which is now broken so looking for an alternative.
I am interested to get one but I see that it is not famous even the forum is almost empty. Can someone tell me why. I see the specs and price are excellent.
I want to hear opinions from owners of this tab before getting it. what do/don't you like about this tab? before either getting this or nexus 7 2013.
what I like about this over the nexus is the speakers and the styles, they will be useful for me and my daughter (to listen to songs and draw things). but the nexus has more RAM and better support. I don't care about the camera (I have Z1 SGS4 and pro camera) or the resolution as long as the quality of the screen is good, my old nexus 7 screen is good enough.
what do you guys think? get it, get the nexus or do you have any other suggestion?
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I don't own one (yet) but if you're looking for a reason to get this over the Nexus 7... aside from the far superior processor (perhaps you won't notice if you don't play games) the HDMI Out is a good one. The Tegra Note's screen lower screen resolution won't make a difference when you're viewing on a HD TV.
ahomad said:
My problem with 1G RAM is not with opening apps or multitasking. But I am worried that the support for this tab will be dropped very soon because it won't have enough RAM. Most Manufacturers dropped support for device with 0.5 RAM and some even dropped support for devices with 1G RAM. I know that 4.4 tried to solve this issue but I still think that 1 G RAM isn't much and Tegra won't support this tab for long and will drop support after 4.4. What make this problem even more serious is that there is no much support for this tab from the community itself and not many ROMs available that could support this tab if nevidia gone this way. Any opinions?
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The underlying software (I'm told by youtube videos) is about identical to the one the Shield uses (the Nvidia Marketplace looks different). These same videos sounded confident that the updates would come along with the Shield updates. Even though it's only 1 GB, the processor is top of the line (for any price range). So I really hope Nvidia doesn't burn us.

I have the tegra note 7 (x3), nexus 7 2013, Nexus7 2012 (×2 but sold one and may sell the other one).
Been using the tegra note 7 mostly since I got it a while back in Dec 13. Reasonably happy with purchase enough to sell one of my nexus 7 2012 and may sell the other too.
Screen is about the same as nexus 7 2012. Speakers are great much better than nexus 7 2012 and Nexus7 2013 or my note 3 or s4. Back camera is Ok, hdr Mode is cool. Front camera is **** and Can't believe Nvidia even dreamt of putting such a lousy one. Haven't skyped with it but expect it to be lousy after brief testing the camera. Low light performance is obviously poor from both front and back cameras.
Pen is good and accurate and faster response than my note 1 phone or note 3. But pen apps are not as much as for note series.
Have two slide covers. Might be getting the extra Pens set from Newegg. Got the slide covers from pc world / currys UK like the tablet (£89.99 then using a code) . Plus usual other android accessories.
Hdmi micro output is useful. But all ports including hdmi usb have too much jiggling about of cable even after it is in so if device is not lying still then will lose connection. Pet adapter cable is SHORT.
Miracast Wireless screen mirroring works great. You can see my YouTube video from a month ago if interested in my tag line below. Will try to upload some more tegra note 7 videos this Weekend if I get the time.
1gb ram has been Ok in my experience surprisingly. Should get better with Kitkat.
Some gameloft games Eg newer haves work only with controllers and not even due to gameloft coding issue and older gameloft games work fine. Game controllers work fine.
Screen not an issue For browsing, movies, games, satnav.
Satnav works great with several mapping applications. Satellite lock faster with Google navigation than others irritatingly but once locked no issues later. Works great for hours of driving.
Will update more in my video review after using all these tablets for a while now (if I get the time this weekend). Thought of doing a quick review earlier but decided to use it for a while before making one. Been using mine for more than a month now.

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I have the tegra note 7 (x3), nexus 7 2013, Nexus7 2012 (×2 but sold one and may sell the other one).
Been using the tegra note 7 mostly since I got it a while back in Dec 13. Reasonably happy with purchase enough to sell one of my nexus 7 2012 and may sell the other too.
Screen is about the same as nexus 7 2012. Speakers are great much better than nexus 7 2012 and Nexus7 2013 or my note 3 or s4. Back camera is Ok, hdr Mode is cool. Front camera is **** and Can't believe Nvidia even dreamt of putting such a lousy one. Haven't skyped with it but expect it to be lousy after brief testing the camera. Low light performance is obviously poor from both front and back cameras.
Pen is good and accurate and faster response than my note 1 phone or note 3. But pen apps are not as much as for note series.
Have two slide covers. Might be getting the extra Pens set from Newegg. Got the slide covers from pc world / currys UK like the tablet (£89.99 then using a code) . Plus usual other android accessories.
Hdmi micro output is useful. But all ports including hdmi usb have too much jiggling about of cable even after it is in so if device is not lying still then will lose connection. Pet adapter cable is SHORT.
Miracast Wireless screen mirroring works great. You can see my YouTube video from a month ago if interested in my tag line below. Will try to upload some more tegra note 7 videos this Weekend if I get the time.
1gb ram has been Ok in my experience surprisingly. Should get better with Kitkat.
Some gameloft games Eg newer haves work only with controllers and not even due to gameloft coding issue and older gameloft games work fine. Game controllers work fine.
Screen not an issue For browsing, movies, games, satnav.
Satnav works great with several mapping applications. Satellite lock faster with Google navigation than others irritatingly but once locked no issues later. Works great for hours of driving.
Will update more in my video review after using all these tablets for a while now (if I get the time this weekend). Thought of doing a quick review earlier but decided to use it for a while before making one. Been using mine for more than a month now.
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Thanks for the detailed answer.
I just have one question since you have both the note 7 and nexus 7 (2012). Can you tell me whats better in the note 7 and whats better in the nexus 2012 as I had nexus 7 2012 and was a great device, I just want quick comparison in few lines if you don't mind.
Thanks in advance.

Better in the N7'12:
#1 colors might be bit better
#2 community, rom support
#3 updates
#4 accessoire availability
better in tn7:
#1 performance is way better
#2 stylus ofc =)
#3 usbotg works with for example usbsticks or 360 controller (both tested), not sure about the n7 there
for me its defenitly the tn7. stylus is just awesome

So I have the tegra note 7 and I've owned other devices like both of the n7s, 10 inch tablets like transformers and galaxy note tabs.
This tablet is THE FASTEST tablet I have ever used.
Tegra Note 7 Pros
-MicroSD card slot
-Front Facing Speakers
-Stock android with a few OEM applications that are actually useful
-Pen Input
-One of the fastest SoCs out there, probably the most featured.
-instant HDR photos
-USB Digital to Analog Converters work out of the box, USB audio sounds good too.
-dedicated HDMI/miracast support
-The best value around at $199
Cons
-Front facing camera is very low resolution, like 640x480. I don't video chat much and even when I do I don't really care about these things, I'd actually prefer not to be in ULTRA HD while I've been lounging around the house unshaven. But still, 640x480 is quite low for a newer device, even if it is $199.
-Short USB cable. I really hate when OEMs get stingy over an extra 2-3 feet of cable.
-IPS displays illuminate blacks and sometimes have bad 'backlight bleeding' on the sides. I would have paid an extra hundred dollars for a display with better color balance than what IPS offers. The screen gets bright, and has good viewing angles/color balance for an IPS display, but at the end of the day it's still IPS. It fits the price of the tablet.
What can be seen as cons:
1280x800 resolution
I do not feel 220ppi is bad in any way shape or form. I can not see pixels even when I move it about 5 inches away from my face. The resolution works great on 7 inch tablets and reduces the strain on the GPU. This translates into higher FPS and a lighter GPU load, leaving a lot of computational power for the tablet to tap into when needed.
1 GB RAM
While I would prefer 2GB, I have grown used to 1GB. Here's a big misconception people make "More RAM is better". More RAM means more power draw, having high amounts of RAM can drop battery life. The way android handles RAM is to kill old processes when more memory is needed, this has worked for years with lower amounts of RAM because it means your most recent processes will always run at a higher priority.
The drawback to this, is that with resource-intensive applications open like games, you can lose old processes from days ago from memory. But I would argue that this is a good memory management scheme because it gets rid of apps you leave open for ages and forget to close, and gives more memory to your game so it doesn't lag. Now with more memory that old application would be around longer, sitting in memory, eating up energy until you close it, run out of memory, or open it again.
At the same time, some newer devices NEED more RAM. This is due to having a high resolution, on a 720p screen your UI elements may be 64x64, well on higher resolutions it goes up to 72x72, 96x96, 128x128, etc. This means that higher resolutions have higher memory requirements because their resources are larger. With a tablet like the tegra note 7, 1GB is okay for 720p resources. With a tablet like the 2013 nexus 7, it is not.
Other Thoughts
I am left handed and really love that Nvidia didn't forget about us lefties. The draw app included with the tablet has leftie optimization. I also love the placement of all the connectors, they are all on one side of the tablet. The settings app has a CPU menu where you can change from quad core mode to dual core mode and I liked that. I would have preferred to have the front facing camera in a closer location to the rear camera, so it doesn't get covered in landscape as easily.
But really, for $200?! It beats everything on the market right now, including the 2013 nexus 7. For any tablet that has a feature that edges out on the Tegra Note 7, the tegra note 7 has about 4-5 tricks the other tablets don't. I cannot complain at all for what I paid, this device will be fast for years to come once the AOSP builds come.

ahomad said:
Thanks for the detailed answer.
I just have one question since you have both the note 7 and nexus 7 (2012). Can you tell me whats better in the note 7 and whats better in the nexus 2012 as I had nexus 7 2012 and was a great device, I just want quick comparison in few lines if you don't mind.
Thanks in advance.
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Looks like others have covered many points I agree with already.
Basically almost everything is better on the tegra note 7 than nexus 7 2012. Screen is debatable though.
Tegra note 7 is better ..... cpu, gpu, speakers, sd slot, pen, miracast, hdmi, back camera, Slide cover accessory.
Nexus 7 2012 is better. ... Faster software updates better grip while holding in one hand, front facing camera is better quality, battery life better than tegra note 7, can get 32gb internal storage unlike the tegra note 7, more accessories available.
Some other things.... Nexus 7 2012 although does not have miracast but can cast some apps to miracast receivers. Nexus7 2012 too has usb OTG support when used with nexus media importer app. The loud speakers on the tegra note 7 make it better as a sat nav in my experience.
Some things I don't like. ....
On the tegra note 7. .... random screen switches on. Ports have too much looseness Eg need to keep usb cable still add If you move Tablet then easily gets dislodged. Sane problem with hdmi. Both ports too close together and some cables might not fit together but other cables will fit.
On the Nexus7 2012. .. starts lagging like hell when full unlike the tegra note 7.
This is as short as I can get it.
If your want shorter then. ... Just buy the tegra note 7
Can't wait to ditch samsung note 3 to get a full specked tegra note phone if and when launched with premium features.
Great buy for £89.99 at Curry's using code but code expired now.

Everyone in here needs to realize something, there has to be a profit margin in ANY device sold. How much do you think it cost for just the bare Tegra 4 chip? I would guess $75-$100 OEM for just the chip itself and then you have roughly $99 more to build EVERYTHING else. I honestly only have 2 complaints with the TN7, 1GB of RAM and the Screen. For the cost though, I can't really say they are complaints, more just something I could point at as a short fall if asked to name some. Everything else is awesome, from sound to Tegra 4 speed.

Thanks everyone for your nice and informative answers, (there is a community for the TN7
I ordered mine and should be receiving it tomorrow. I noticed that the main issue is with both cameras which isn't important for me. What worries me is that most people aren't very happy with the screen but I guess I will have to wait and see myself. I am happy to see that the speaker and the styles are of very good quality.
I got mine from PCWORLD for 129.99£ I wish I knew about the 89.99 offer, I would have got two , anyway it is still a bargain.

I got my first Tegra Note from Aliexpress as soon as they were released, a Chinese Homecare model, the same company that manufactures all the version I hear. The problem was the tablet I got seemed to be poorly made. On day 0 I couldn't get the usb cable in. I realised most of my sockets were unaligned to the plastic case. Then there was missing Google Apps and the GPS didn't work so I needed to root and go into repair mode. After bending the USB connector up a little I could power and start work at making this tablet usable. Well within a few days I had a software bricked unit and the repair mechanisms like recovery and bootloader partitions were so limited on this model that I couldn't remedy. The moral to the story is buy local if you can.
I now have an EVGA Tegra Note and it's far better experience. The manufacturing is better and everything works bar the GPS which may come down to the satellite table being narrow.
Buyers should consider that Nvidia's Tegra Tablets are a new series using one of the fastest CPU cores around so if you want to be apart of this new cruise get onboard. It's only going to get better.

gps is non functional on this tablet, takes over half an hour to aquire a lock and looses it in 30 seconds.

slybunda said:
gps is non functional on this tablet, takes over half an hour to aquire a lock and looses it in 30 seconds.
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Gps works fine on mine but slightly slower with new updates. Lock was faster before. Lock is faster with Google Navigation than other apps. Mine work fine in the UK for online and off line navigation using various sat nav apps for hours of driving to unfamiliar cities. Once locked have never lost a signal since I bought in December. I have compared it with Samsung Galaxy Note 3 and nexus 7 2013 and For long journeys now mainly use tegra note 7 due to Good speakers. For short journeys I use my note 3.
Lock time is Ok with updates but was faster before. Only on 3 occasions lock took a while but rebooting device sorted it out.
Battery life is better with nexus 7 2013 and 2012 during navigation though than the tegra note 7.

Ok, I bought the Tegra and have had time to play around with it.
The USB cable it comes with fits loosely into the port. Other cables I've tried fit much better however.
The casing makes noise when I'm holding it. If my thumb is on one of the front facing speakers, iI can feel it compress slightly and its accompanied by a clicking sound. As I walk my fingers around the edge of the tablet and press down gently, I hear a slight clicking. I worry that the screen is going to come out of the plastic shell. And for this reason, I will not root this device until the warranty has expired. I should probably review the warranty sooner rather than later because I'm not sure of the details.
Overall I'm very happy with the purchase and performance of tthis tablet but I will update this post if needed.

Freeze!
I recently bought this tablet but was disappointed to find out that it froze quite often and had to be rebooted after every 15-20 minutes. The problem continues to persist even after upgrading to Android 4.3. Please help!

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I recently bought this tablet but was disappointed to find out that it froze quite often and had to be rebooted after every 15-20 minutes. The problem continues to persist even after upgrading to Android 4.3. Please help!
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Freezing is an issue if apps are moved to sd card improperly. This causes freezing and reboot loops and low battery in my samsung devices. Have you moved apps to sd card. If so then remove sd card and see if problems resolved. If it is Ok without sd card then start deleting the apps one by one when in your tablet. If it crashes too often the insert the card into your laptop and delete the hidden Android folder which should sort the problem if it was due to improper moving of app to sd card

bubblesmoney said:
Freezing is an issue if apps are moved to sd card improperly. This causes freezing and reboot loops and low battery in my samsung devices. Have you moved apps to sd card. If so then remove sd card and see if problems resolved. If it is Ok without sd card then start deleting the apps one by one when in your tablet. If it crashes too often the insert the card into your laptop and delete the hidden Android folder which should sort the problem if it was due to improper moving of app to sd card
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Thanks for the speedy reply. But I haven't even yet installed an sd card.. All I have done is install apps from playstore to the tablet's inbuilt memory.
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Arpit_Gupta said:
Thanks for the speedy reply. But I haven't even yet installed an sd card.. All I have done is install apps from playstore to the tablet's inbuilt memory.
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Have you tried a factory reset. Did it sort the problem out. After factory reset install apps one by one and wait 15 to 20 mins to see if any of the apps wad causing the issue. Can't think of anything else to suggest. If problem continues then I would get an exchange or refund if I were you.

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Have you tried a factory reset. Did it sort the problem out. After factory reset install apps one by one and wait 15 to 20 mins to see if any of the apps wad causing the issue. Can't think of anything else to suggest. If problem continues then I would get an exchange or refund if I were you.
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By any chance, could there be some problem with the hardware which is causing such freezes?
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By any chance, could there be some problem with the hardware which is causing such freezes?
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I have tried resetting the tablet too by the way.
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