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'AnTuTu pegs Galaxy S III as most powerful Android device,

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Ah, the*Galaxy S III. We always knew it'd be a keystone among Android smartphones, but according to the AnTuTu benchmark suite, it'll be the one device to rule them all. While there's no way to verify whether this test is indeed legitimate, all Android users may currently peep the AnTuTu app, which not only shows the smartphone as having bested the mighty*Transformer Prime*tablet, but it also reveals the most comprehensive set of specs we've yet seen for the Galaxy S III -- again, take this with a grain of salt. The device is said to wield a Samsung*Exynos 4212 SoC*with a dual-core 1.4GHz CPU, 1GB of RAM and a 4.7-inch, 720p HD display. This lines up similarly with the*product listing*from Amazon Germany, as the specs also reveal a 12 megapixel primary camera on the rear, along with a 2MP shooter on the front. No big surprises for the OS, which is listed as Android 4.0. Should the benchmark tests turn out to be legitimate, the*HTC One X*will no doubt have some very stiff competition.
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I need the galaxy s3 to look better than the one x or galaxy nexus. And that goes for the screen as well have you guys seen the one x display.
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I haven't seen the screen, but they say it's way better than our amoled. Regardless, I will get the gs3 even if it had no screen. I want the best/fastest/most powerful Android device
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with that many pixels one picture and your phone storage will blow up, 1200megapixel

Won't the nexus that comes around xmas time for the past 3 years running have similar if not better specs and sport the pure Android first in line upgrade experience for users? I'm not getting all the fuss over the s3 when nexus will be right behind by a few months. Last nexus was delayed because of lte. So we got it 5 months late.
Nexus gets jellybean out of box
S3 users will beg for leaks
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I find Antutu to be the only benchmark I trust.

jamesey said:
Won't the nexus that comes around xmas time for the past 3 years running have similar if not better specs and sport the pure Android first in line upgrade experience for users? I'm not getting all the fuss over the s3 when nexus will be right behind by a few months. Last nexus was delayed because of lte. So we got it 5 months late.
Nexus gets jellybean out of box
S3 users will beg for leaks
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Same logic would suggests that the Galaxy S4 would just be a few months behind that nexus then. Galaxy phones have been coming out around mid year where nexus phones have been coming out end of the year, and then tack on a few months more for carrier delays. The Galaxy phones have all been about specs and design. Sides, with enough developers working on it to push out AOSP roms, "pure google" isn't that hard to obtain.

beserker15 said:
Same logic would suggests that the Galaxy S4 would just be a few months behind that nexus then. Galaxy phones have been coming out around mid year where nexus phones have been coming out end of the year, and then tack on a few months more for carrier delays. The Galaxy phones have all been about specs and design. Sides, with enough developers working on it to push out AOSP roms, "pure google" isn't that hard to obtain.
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Yeah, but leaks come many months after new major Android update
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jamesey said:
Yeah, but leaks come many months after new major Android update
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Right, and carrier delays also force the nexus to come many months after that new Android update as well lol. Unless you're going to switch away from Sprint and going with a GSM carrier, Sprint's Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus both came 5-6 months after their international brothers.

Personally I don't understand why everyone loves the nexus so much...It has the exact same specs as the S2 but NFC capable and worse camera. I don't get it. OMG it has onscreen buttons, i could care less...a nice camera means about 1000x more to me. Pure ICS, pretty sure I already have that via flashing roms. I don't know if Nexus has AOKP but "pure ICS < AOKP

brekec88 said:
Personally I don't understand why everyone loves the nexus so much...It has the exact same specs as the S2 but NFC capable and worse camera. I don't get it. OMG it has onscreen buttons, i could care less...a nice camera means about 1000x more to me. Pure ICS, pretty sure I already have that via flashing roms. I don't know if Nexus has AOKP but "pure ICS < AOKP
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Thank you. Ive been wanting to say this for the longest time

brekec88 said:
Personally I don't understand why everyone loves the nexus so much...It has the exact same specs as the S2 but NFC capable and worse camera. I don't get it. OMG it has onscreen buttons, i could care less...a nice camera means about 1000x more to me. Pure ICS, pretty sure I already have that via flashing roms. I don't know if Nexus has AOKP but "pure ICS < AOKP
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I agree, but I hope the next nexus will be competitive on both specs and design since the S3 is kind of a disappointment already.
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Pheno.menon said:
I agree, but I hope the next nexus will be competitive on both specs and design since the S3 is kind of a disappointment already.
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Really? How so? I mean I guess as of now its all
just speculation but a little bigger screen, 12 mp camera and quad core processor. That alone makes me a little hard. Take my money please.

brekec88 said:
Really? How so? I mean I guess as of now its all
just speculation but a little bigger screen, 12 mp camera and quad core processor. That alone makes me a little hard. Take my money please.
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It's the CPU/GPU that are pissing people off, and I completely understand because I am too. The Galaxy s phones are supposed to be powerhouses. The previous two were faaaar ahead of their time. This phone uses some A9 chip with the old Mali400, which has been long outdated. All they did was overclock it. That GPU can't render triangles if its life depended on it.

What about audio chip. I have an Sgs ii and dont use it because it cannot record videos under loud conditions such as concerts. All you get is noise.
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jamesey said:
Won't the nexus that comes around xmas time for the past 3 years running have similar if not better specs and sport the pure Android first in line upgrade experience for users? I'm not getting all the fuss over the s3 when nexus will be right behind by a few months. Last nexus was delayed because of lte. So we got it 5 months late.
Nexus gets jellybean out of box
S3 users will beg for leaks
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cm10 will be waiting around the corner for s3 users at that time

MultiLockOn said:
It's the CPU/GPU that are pissing people off, and I completely understand because I am too.... This phone uses some A9 chip with the old Mali400, which has been long outdated. All they did was overclock it. That GPU can't render triangles if its life depended on it.
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Really -- I mean from information we have now, which one will you take Tegra3 GPU or Mali400 clocked at 440Mhz? or Adreno 225?
Everyone knows about low memory bandwidth issues with Tegra, and Adreno isn't that a powerhouse in GPU. Samsung has always stated multiple times this year that their aim is battery life and efficiency.
http://androidandme.com/2012/01/news/samsung-promises-full-day-of-battery-life-for-2012-smartphones/
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Recently power consumption for mobile devices have increased a lot and mobile devices have limited cooling capability....Samsung optimized its 45 nm processor for performance first and later found it could not get its full performance without exceeding power consumption limits. The 32 nm chip was optimized first for power consumption

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Really -- I mean from information we have now, which one will you take Tegra3 GPU or Mali400 clocked at 440Mhz? or Adreno 225?
Everyone knows about low memory bandwidth issues with Tegra, and Adreno isn't that a powerhouse in GPU. Samsung has always stated multiple times this year that their aim is battery life and efficiency.
http://androidandme.com/2012/01/news/samsung-promises-full-day-of-battery-life-for-2012-smartphones/
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Recently power consumption for mobile devices have increased a lot and mobile devices have limited cooling capability....Samsung optimized its 45 nm processor for performance first and later found it could not get its full performance without exceeding power consumption limits. The 32 nm chip was optimized first for power consumption
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That's an interesting comparison between the 4 GPU's, most benchmarks I've seen lean towards the Adreno 225 or the PVR MP2 used in the iPhone. How much more power would really be used by a Mali T6 card over the Mali 400 :/

Best Phone I have Ever Used

As you can see im my signature I've been back and forth between Android and iOS a little bit and have now landed back on an Android device, and I honestly think that the Note 2 may well be the best phone I have ever used.
I very nearly got a Nexus 4 but the stock situation and the pretty woeful battery life put me off getting one. But with the troubles I had with my original Note I never even thought about the Note 2 until seeing a few videos on YouTube.
A brief summary of my phone switches:
Had an iPhone 4 started to get a little bored with it and I had seen the Note advertised and found an amazing offer for it and picked it up, but with my knowledge of Android at the time, the horrible ICS update (IMO) and the fact my battery drained itself over night I was just getting annoyed and went back to iOS which I fell back in love with. From that experience I almost said never again to Android. Used iPhone 4 again for a while, still looking around at phones and seeing what was coming out but nothing took my fancy, I was back with iOS. iPhone 5 came out and I jumped straight on it, a month into it Google Announces the Nexus 4, which made me wonder, hmm maybe I was a little quick to judge. The iPhone was boring the crap out of me, don't get me wrong I'm still a little bias towards Apple, I use a bunch of their products and I couldn't live without them at times. But iOS is so stale at the moment, being "just good enough" is not enough. So then I sold my iPhone 5 and got me a Note 2 (After watching hours of videos to be sure the same problems from the Note 1 weren't there).
And so far I am happy to say that they are not! The phone is just so good! I'm still a little worried about the SDS that could happen at any time. But other than that, it's just amazing. The screen, although hard to put screen protectors on, is beautiful and makes media consumption, gaming and everything just so, so good! It's super quick, I've had no lag so far for anything. The S-Pen updates are excellent, just wish there was an app that could really take advantage of the touch sensitivity as S-Note does not, there is no difference in how hard you press at all.
Coming from an iPhone 5 which is super light, compared yes the battery basically weighs more than the iPhone, but the Note 2 is still very light and feels great in the hand. Camera is very good, I think the iPhone tops it, but stock camera app on here is certainly better than stock iOS camera app. I don't use all the TouchWiz features as I am running Nova Launcher Prime, but Multi-Window (after working out how to use it) is so useful at times, when you would least expect it to!
Kind of a small comparison to the iPhone 5, but I hope I got my point out there. It's just an excellent phone and I just hope it can stay that way after a few months of use as I have seen a few threads pop up of some problems, so I'll keep the "best phone I have ever used" until then. But based on first week or so, yes, 100%!
Only small complaint really has to be the lack of good cases made for it, I've got that 6 Abundant one on order, but other than that there isn't much out there, again compared to the iPhone. And there are some apps and games that I do miss from iOS, I may get an iPod touch so I don't waste the purchases I have made.

I'm currently using the official Samsung tpu case and its great.
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Nice sharing, from my point of view after tried both iphone 5 and note2. I would say that overally note 2 is better than iphone 5 by a miles.
Besides note2 sizes might not suitable for small hand, camera shutter speed slightly slower than iphone5 and stock internet browsing not smooth as iphone5....other than that, im really cant found any of advantages iphone 5 over note 2.
By the way, the place im stay really easily could find any type of screen protector and case. I has varoius colour of mecury jelly case.
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sorry, posted in wrong thread. i agree its the best phone ive used.

lee yun khong said:
Besides note2 sizes might not suitable for small hand, camera shutter speed slightly slower than iphone5 and stock internet browsing not smooth as iphone5....other than that, im really cant found any of advantages iphone 5 over note 2.
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From what I read the note 2 takes faster pictures than the iphone5.
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Jamolah said:
From what I read the note 2 takes faster pictures than the iphone5.
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Obviously you dont own an ip5 or never have chances to hold the real devices and test the features.
Read is good...but..try it.......then you will know the result..
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http://www.sammobile.com/2013/01/17/galaxy-note-ii-software-update-n7100xxdll7-brings-battery-drain/ the article states that tge sds issue is fixed on dll7 update.
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lee yun khong said:
Obviously you dont own an ip5 or never have chances to hold the real devices and test the features.
Read is good...but..try it.......then you will know the result..
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Are u iphone lover as well as note lover?
Haha not that it offends me but i just think iphone is overrated. personal point of view. but my view is i just like the quality & resolutions of photos of android phones more than the iphone's. havent tried ip5 but ip4 self-portraits were horrible, and the overall quality of photos cant match up with galaxy S2's.
as i said, just my view. you could prove me wrong.

Hey Craiigman apply your screen protectors using this method
http://lifehacker.com/5927704/apply-a-screen-protector-perfectly-every-time-with-the-hinge-method
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Well I love my Note 2 too, but two things I don't like, one is, the build quality, it shatters from a soft fall as many users have reported, and the second is camera quality, however I can live with that. But the build quality does scare the hell outta me.
I love my iPhone 5 too.
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Yeah..the best among the best..it is the best from my experience since hd2..iphone not sure..never use it b4..not interested on "i" thingy
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Galaxy Note 2 is easily the best phone so far for me too. It puts a smile on my face just holding it. :good:

Easily the best phone I've ever had! The only gripe is not being able to move games to sd card without rooting, hopefully this will be sorted by Samsung soon
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knuckle03 said:
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/01/17/galaxy-note-ii-software-update-n7100xxdll7-brings-battery-drain/ the article states that tge sds issue is fixed on dll7 update.
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How do I know if I have this update? My carrier has not released 4.1.2 yet, is it that update?

I have an i phone and interesting with it is like trying to hold a conversation with a rock. I don't get any joy out of using it (have to since its my work phone). The camera on my note 2 is much quicker from my experience but my other daily phone was a thunderbolt before this so that could also be seeing my opinion haha..
Either way the note 2 is better than any phone or right now
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You say that you don't see differences in pressure sensitivity with the s pen, it does for me, and should for you too, so perhaps something is wrong.
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adytum said:
You say that you don't see differences in pressure sensitivity with the s pen, it does for me, and should for you too, so perhaps something is wrong.
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Which app actually uses the pressure sensitivity? Can you show me some evidence of it?
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craiigman said:
Which app actually uses the pressure sensitivity? Can you show me some evidence of it?
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s Note actually use the pressure value, but the default variation is too small, hard to notice. Ominisketch and sketchbook also use the pressure data. none of them have the option we have on windows for Wacom tablets that can control the min and max size of the brush to map to pressure...

craiigman said:
Which app actually uses the pressure sensitivity? Can you show me some evidence of it?
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As mentioned above, s note has variations like this.
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You see I had a corby pro and jumped straight to note 2 :beer:
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Note 3 day one buy features

I've been wondering what, if announced, would make the Note 3 (or any other phone) a day 1 buy for me.
There's always the incremental MORE/LESS stuff - more screen, less weight, blah blah blah
The note 2 is good enough that I don't consider any of that to be a strong selling point.
Has technology/innovation peaked? What features could/would make the Note 3 a 'must buy'
for Note 2 owners (versus the expected 'guess I'll wait for the Note 4)? Or from a business
perspective, would could make people who were uninterested in the Note 3 interested in the Note 2?
I don't think the S4 won over any S3 haters.
The only recent interesting things I've seen are:
wireless charging
unbreakable screen
Metallic body (which I personally don't care about, but it sure is making the HTC One hot stuff)
All of the above I'd love, but nothing I'd sell my Note 2 to get.
- Frank

ChodTheWacko said:
I've been wondering what, if announced, would make the Note 3 (or any other phone) a day 1 buy for me.
There's always the incremental MORE/LESS stuff - more screen, less weight, blah blah blah
The note 2 is good enough that I don't consider any of that to be a strong selling point.
Has technology/innovation peaked? What features could/would make the Note 3 a 'must buy'
for Note 2 owners (versus the expected 'guess I'll wait for the Note 4)? Or from a business
perspective, would could make people who were uninterested in the Note 3 interested in the Note 2?
I don't think the S4 won over any S3 haters.
The only recent interesting things I've seen are:
wireless charging
unbreakable screen
Metallic body (which I personally don't care about, but it sure is making the HTC One hot stuff)
All of the above I'd love, but nothing I'd sell my Note 2 to get.
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I want to go mad with power lol.
Octa Core!

The hardware technology is close to peaking, I think. Flexible screens are just a marketing gimmick for me, and better radios aren't really new tech but refinements of what we already have. Screens are either unbreakable but not unscratchable, or unscratchable but not unbreakable. As for power -- every week we read about how this or that development will give us vastly more powerful batteries (rechargeable in 30 seconds, no less) but the problem is, they've been saying that for the past six or seven years and we're still stuck with the same old Li-Ion technology. Wireless charging still means leaving the phone on some device or other to charge -- only you don't plug it in. Now if my phone's battery would start charging as soon as I walked in the door, I might sit up and take notice.
The only innovations that would give me an incentive to buy a new device (the Note 99, maybe?) on day 1 would be either 128GB or more of storage without a huge increase in price, or a change in Android specs to allow apps to be stored and run from external cards. Not allowing apps to run from external storage has got to be one of Google's more short-sighted ideas, given that each Android iteration, not to mention manufacturer and carrier overlays, seems to eat more and more of available storage space for its own use.
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Galaxy Nexus
Galaxy Note 2
Galaxy Note 8.0

in my country, note 2 now is about 30% cheaper compared to when it was launched. if thats the case in your area and since you are still satisfied with your note2, id wait for a few months until it gets cheaper before buying. as a bonus the official rom you buy might be more stable the the 1st release.

For me, personally, it would have to be a huge increase in onboard storage (I'm thinking 128GB minimum). Also, I would prefer a dedicated micro-HDMI port, instead of crappy MHL. These two things would make me get the GN3 on release day, but if not, I'll stick with my GN2 for the time being.

1080p, Exynos Octa w/LTE, more storage...yeah, I'm probably going to get it at launch. Those are enough to excite me.
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Frontal stereo speakers, Adreno 330, Snapdragon 800, metal body, 1080p 64 GB storage... these things are desirable, but still probably wouldn't buy it... and definately not on day one. Just recently got my Note 2
More likely when I switch, it will be to the Note 4... or perhaps some nice HTC/Sony. Maybe even a Nokia EOS, if such a thing ever breaks free from the rumorland....

I want a note 3 with all s4 features minus lag, screen tint and smearing issues (realistic wish list). It would be enough for a year at least. I would prefer a screen of 5.7 inch max, but it should never go beyond 6.0. The battery should be around 4000MAh. I don't care about body but design at least should not be carbon copy of note 2/s4. The minimum storage should be 32gig.

Larger screen without increasing the body size.
Larger battery, and I don't mind making the body slightly thicker either. For me battery life is more important than have it be under 11mm. I think 12mm is fine.
HD display, without a doubt.
SPen upgrade. I love the current generation, but if they can't make it any better then that'll be fine by me.
Next generation processor which I'm sure will be in there.
An awesome camera This one is good, but not that good. I'd much prefer something better.
I think that's it! If they add on a capacitive home button and an extra gig of ram I'm sold.

Thinner, lighter, better battery, full hd and 13mpix camera at least (or better if they can squeeze it). Battery life is fine with me. Processing power I don't care about anymore (it's plenty enough already).

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Do we need to uninstall the stock app to flash this
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Nice spam. Reported.

Ill be keeping note 2 if note 3 is just a s4 with a pen and 5.99 inch full hd screen.
Maybe 3 gig of ram?
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dazza7111 said:
Ill be keeping note 2 if note 3 is just a s4 with a pen and 5.99 inch full hd screen.
Maybe 3 gig of ram?
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I am afraid its going to be like this, better not to keep your hopes high, you should follow the prior trend if u want to stay realistic. I dont mind an s4 type phone but it must be morw fluid and minus all the bugs.
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I hope I I'm not that bothered about it. Only had note 2 a few weeks and love it! Want it to last till s5 or note 4!
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Note 3?
Do you guys really want to struggle with Samsung's rooting/custom kernel issues, flash counters, root trackers, CyanogenMod incompatibilities?

Definitely a phone I will buy, sadly I dont have the money right now and selling somo old phones is not on my plans, so if the note 3 went out today I will have to buy it in October 2014.
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sohebq said:
The minimum storage should be 32gig.
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Samsung will never set 32gb as minimum storage. They rather will cut it even more (like in galaxy s4).

Have to say I am impressed with my Note2 so far the best Android phone Ive had. Its the only phone I have not had to tamper with to make it faster. I did root it but no custom rom. Never had it die on me, been using it close to a year now and it still amazes me. Awesome device. The Note 3 would have to be significantly better to justify an upgrade. I agree with with what someone hasmentioned already, i believe we have reached a peak now....and only encremental changes will come. Else if they do decide to go all out with the Note 3...we will all be guinea pigs....like with the first samsung galaxy s.with the note 2 we have the perfect balance between battery life and performance. I still carry a spare battery around...just incase.
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It needs to have a new design. I won't buy it if it looks too much like my Note 2. Something like the GS4 Active would be awesome.

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Note 3?
Do you guys really want to struggle with Samsung's rooting/custom kernel issues, flash counters, root trackers, CyanogenMod incompatibilities?
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Yes. Don't really care, to be honest.
Oh - I'm rooted, and happily running a custom rom.
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Nexus 4 or Wait for 5

Apologies for a question that's certainly been asked before although mine might be a little different.
At the moment I have a HTC Desire S that's served me well for a while.
I've been debating upgrading for a while and I have been waiting to see what the HTC One Mini was going to be all about. However literately today I noticed the specs for the Nexus 4 and Samsung S4 Mini and was wondering if it was really worth buying the HTC One Mini.
So I did a bit of research with the Nexus 4 and I the price of the phone is just to tempting to ignore especially for 16GB. I also realised that potentially the Nexus 5 is going to be released soon.
Basically, I wanted to know if it was worth waiting for the Nexus 5, however my additional question was relating to the size of the Nexus 5, is anyone aware of how big it might be? I don't want anything bigger than the Nexus 4 Ideally as I heard a rumour it might be one of those phablet (spelling?) types?

Uggers said:
Apologies for a question that's certainly been asked before although mine might be a little different.
At the moment I have a HTC Desire S that's served me well for a while.
I've been debating upgrading for a while and I have been waiting to see what the HTC One Mini was going to be all about. However literately today I noticed the specs for the Nexus 4 and Samsung S4 Mini and was wondering if it was really worth buying the HTC One Mini.
So I did a bit of research with the Nexus 4 and I the price of the phone is just to tempting to ignore especially for 16GB. I also realised that potentially the Nexus 5 is going to be released soon.
Basically, I wanted to know if it was worth waiting for the Nexus 5, however my additional question was relating to the size of the Nexus 5, is anyone aware of how big it might be? I don't want anything bigger than the Nexus 4 Ideally as I heard a rumour it might be one of those phablet (spelling?) types?
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There has been no word from Google that they will even make a Nexus 5. If they do it won't be available for sale till late November early December so you're looking at waiting 4 more months. You also take the chance that it will be a lot more expensive than the Nexus 4, a good $200 more if it has a larger screen and LTE and top of the line hardware.

kzoodroid said:
There has been no word from Google that they will even make a Nexus 5. If they do it won't be available for sale till late November early December so you're looking at waiting 4 more months. You also take the chance that it will be a lot more expensive than the Nexus 4, a good $200 more if it has a larger screen and LTE and top of the line hardware.
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Lol
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I haven't even read a thing about the Nexus 5 and since the Nexus 4 is still an awesome phone with great specs and price, I would definitely advice you to buy one today
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If a Nexus 5 were to be announced, it's likely Google will base it off the Optimus G2 which should be LG's flagship phone, most likely selling it for $500+. In that case I think it's hardly possible that the next Nexus will be cheap.. Go for the Nexus 4, I am

I've had my Nexus 4 since launch and I absolutely love it. Great build quality and as fast as I'd ever need it to be.
However, with that said, if I were in your shoes I would hold out till the Moto X is announced officially next week. It looks to be a very promising phone and I like the fact that it will be less fragile than the Nexus 4 and have a better camera. Supposedly it's beating out the Nexus 4 in benchmark tests as well.
I imagine you will love either phone but definitely wait until you see the official Moto X before making your decision.

sn0warmy said:
I've had my Nexus 4 since launch and I absolutely love it. Great build quality and as fast as I'd ever need it to be.
However, with that said, if I were in your shoes I would hold out till the Moto X is announced officially next week. It looks to be a very promising phone and I like the fact that it will be less fragile than the Nexus 4 and have a better camera. Supposedly it's beating out the Nexus 4 in benchmark tests as well.
I imagine you will love either phone but definitely wait until you see the official Moto X before making your decision.
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N4 blows the Moto X away in specs.
I'd say wait for the N5. What can the N4 do that your phone can't?

Buy the Nexus 4. If the Nexus 5 comes out and it is similarly priced, buy that too.
The good thing about Nexus devices on the play store is that their cost is not prohibitively expensive. Also, as mentioned...there has been no official word at all on Google's end about the Nexus 5.

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N4 blows the Moto X away in specs.
I'd say wait for the N5. What can the N4 do that your phone can't?
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Why do people keep spreading this false information? Right now for all we know the Moto X has much better specs than the Nexus 4. But even if we just stick with the rumored leaked specs, the Moto X STILL pulls out on top...
Moto X specs (leaked)
- Snapdragon dual core 1.7GHz S4 Pro
- 2GB RAM
- 16gb/32GB
- 10mp camera
- Dual LTE antennas
- 720x1184 resolution
Nexus 4
- Snapdragon quad core 1.5GHz S4 Pro
- 2GB RAM
- 16gb/32GB
- 8mp camera
- Single antenna for LTE and HSPA
- 720x1280 resolution
As far as performance, the Moto X beat out the Nexus 4 in Antutu scores....
Moto X Score: 18,753
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Nexus 4 Score: 14,304
But you can go ahead and keep telling yourself that your Nexus 4 is far superior. There will be more inventory of the Moto X for us on release day. :silly:

Gentlemen, lets not fight each other. I thinking of upgrading to a Nexus 4 but I heard it has overheating issues it is really that bad?
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Hey man, I literally got my nexus 4 a week ago and honestly I couldn't be happier with it, for me the screen size is perfect as I'm not a fan of these gargantuan phones. I was thinking of waiting for the moto x but I'm fairly impatient and with no "official" announcements yet I decided to take the plunge and get the N4. It looks good feels great in the hand and is far cheaper than most of the newer handsets. I've personalised it to my liking and certainly won't be upgrading anytime soon
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darkmillian said:
Gentlemen, lets not fight each other. I thinking of upgrading to a Nexus 4 but I heard it has overheating issues it is really that bad?
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I've had no overheating issues with mine. It's been flawless.

sn0warmy said:
I've had no overheating issues with mine. It's been flawless.
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I can confirm that and some overheating issues are software related so you can always install a(nother) custom ROM.

Remcotjuuh said:
I can confirm that and some overheating issues are software related so you can always install a(nother) custom ROM.
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It'd be the kernel not the custom ROM. Kernel controls the cpu.

zephiK said:
It'd be the kernel not the custom ROM. Kernel controls the cpu.
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Meh, true, but some ROMs also include a custom kernel though.

sn0warmy said:
Why do people keep spreading this false information? Right now for all we know the Moto X has much better specs than the Nexus 4. But even if we just stick with the rumored leaked specs, the Moto X STILL pulls out on top...
Moto X specs (leaked)
- Snapdragon dual core 1.7GHz S4 Pro
- 2GB RAM
- 16gb/32GB
- 10mp camera
- Dual LTE antennas
- 720x1184 resolution
Nexus 4
- Snapdragon quad core 1.5GHz S4 Pro
- 2GB RAM
- 16gb/32GB
- 8mp camera
- Single antenna for LTE and HSPA
- 720x1280 resolution
As far as performance, the Moto X beat out the Nexus 4 in Antutu scores....
Moto X Score: 18,753
Nexus 4 Score: 14,304
But you can go ahead and keep telling yourself that your Nexus 4 is far superior. There will be more inventory of the Moto X for us on release day. :silly:
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Where are you getting that antutu score for the nexus 4? It isn't uncommon for the nexus 4 to break 20k+. That score is certainly not a good representation. Benchmarks in general aren't. Don't base opinions regarding to performance on benchmarks. A touchwiz GS4 can easily score 26k+ in antutu but in real life usage has lag, stutter, and slowdown (in which case the Nexus 4 beats it outright in performance IMO)
Benchmarks don't mean s***. Don't base any decisions on them. try out the phone for yourself.
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nyyankees1237 said:
Where are you getting that antutu score for the nexus 4? It isn't uncommon for the nexus 4 to break 20k+. That score is certainly not a good representation. Benchmarks in general aren't. Don't base opinions regarding to performance on benchmarks. A touchwiz GS4 can easily score 26k+ in antutu but in real life usage has lag, stutter, and slowdown (in which case the Nexus 4 beats it outright in performance IMO)
Benchmarks don't mean s***. Don't base any decisions on them. try out the phone for yourself.
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I couldn't agree more with you about benchmarks. Just trying to show that there really is no proof at all that the Moto X won't perform as well or better than the Nexus 4. Just because it doesn't have a quad core CPU doesn't mean it won't be optimized and fast. I fully anticipate the Moto X to be as fluid or more fluid than the Nexus 4 as far as usability goes.
I'm personally looking forward to it and if I were in the OP's shoes I'd hold off on buying anything until they see the full release of the Moto X.

sn0warmy said:
I couldn't agree more with you about benchmarks. Just trying to show that there really is no proof at all that the Moto X won't perform as well or better than the Nexus 4. Just because it doesn't have a quad core CPU doesn't mean it won't be optimized and fast. I fully anticipate the Moto X to be as fluid or more fluid than the Nexus 4 as far as usability goes.
I'm personally looking forward to it and if I were in the OP's shoes I'd hold off on buying anything until they see the full release of the Moto X.
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I agree. The Nexus 4 is already pretty damn smooth as it is (ESPECIALLY on 4.3 ). An improvement on that would be phenomenal for the moto x. We are at the stage in the smartphone game where specs themselves don't mean much anymore because software optimization is becoming really good (look at iOS and Windows Phone). I think Android 4.3 further solidifies that notion. I'd say to the OP, no matter what modern smartphone you decide to buy you can bet on it that it will be a fast and efficient phone. We're not in 2010 anymore.
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Nexus 4 is great phone period. This is meaningless for asking should wait or not. While you making decision for the phone there new model coming then you will move on to think about the new phone. Once you make the decision of getting the new model you will see there something newer is on the market. The moment you holding and using your phone is priceless. Why think too much just grab the phone when you need the phone.

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Nexus 4 is great phone period. This is meaningless for asking should wait or not. While you making decision for the phone there new model coming then you will move on to think about the new phone. Once you make the decision of getting the new model you will see there something newer is on the market. The moment you holding and using your phone is priceless. Why think too much just grab the phone when you need the phone.
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Well said... Always confused when people ask others to help them make decisions especially when there is Google. All the information you need is out there and nobody here knows more about when G5 is coming then you do or Google. Buy what you want to buy and keep it moving, its a phone and it will be obsolete the moment you buy... LOL
N4 and rooted with custom kernel will keep phone cool, battery lasting long and a smile on your face

Anyone came from a Note 3?

I'm tempted. I like my Note 3 but I like the size of the G2.
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ekerbuddyeker said:
I'm tempted. I like my Note 3 but I like the size of the G2.
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i came from the note 3.
i've owned all three note phones, and each one has gotten much better than the last one. the note 3 had battery life that made me stick with it, until i found the G2 w/ its huge battery. getting 4-5h of screen on time, which is slightly less than what i had on the note 3.
the size of the G2 really sold me. it's thing, edge to edge screen, and the camera quality is close enough that i don't miss anything. in fact, i still think the camera on the htc one is my favorite. i don't think you'll miss anything from the note 3, unless the s-pen is a deal breaker for you.
additionally, LG's software tweaks are intuitive and helpful, IMO. the note 3 just has too many bells and whistles, most of which are more time consuming for me to learn and use well. and this is coming from someone who really likes more features. i think samsung is just throwing in the kitchen sink in its software approach. the G2 adds value with its tweaks, samsungs proposition... i'm not so sure. and touchwiz is starting to look VERY dated.

I did. I was looking to upgrade from my Note 2 but the G2 was released a few days before it. Had the G2 until the Note 3 ws released and kept it until about 2 weeks ago. I then traded that Note 3 for a Moto X and some cash. A few days ago, I traded the Moto X for the G2.
I will say that for starters, I liked the Moto X a lot more than I thought I would. As of right now, it's probably one of the best Android phones I've used and definitely in my top 3 (Droid 1, Note 2, Moto X). It's underspec'd compared to everything else I've used but I just love the user experience of it all. I'm actually still debating on dumping the G2 for another Moto X.
Anyway, as far as the Note 3 It's a nice phone and one of the best Samsung has made. My problem with the Note 3 was that
A) Touchwiz has way too much crap going on now. I used a near stock ROM on my Note 2 so it's odd for me to say this but I actually got sick of TW on the Note 3. They really need to update and streamline this IMO. The S-Pen works a lot better than the Note 2 so if you like such features, you can't beat this phone. The G2 has some really annoying UI features too but it's a slight step down to how the Note was. Very slight.
B) The more I used the Note 3, the more I hated to hold it. I thought the Note 2 was really nice to hold. Yeah it was big but I really didn't have any problems with it. The Note 3 is more squared off and just felt bleh after a while. The G2 is a lot better to hold and surprisingly the battery life is better than the Note 3, depending on which review you read of course.
I don't miss the Note 3 at all and I think I'm officially done with Samsung phones too. I'm getting to the point to where I just want to use my phone without having to ROM and take off bloat but at the same time I want a little bit more. I think this is why I liked the Moto X so much. It's not as vanilla as a Nexus but it has just enough tweaks to make it unique. The G2 is pretty much the same way I would say.

I had a Note 3 for two weeks before returning it, mainly due to Knox stuffs and I agree with just about everything phobic99 said above. With that said, I'm on Sprint Sero, meaning I can only upgrade directly through Sprint, and the Note 3 was $372.74 after taxes, while I managed to pick the G2 for FREE Monday.
As a previous Note 2 owner, I feel the G2 is better than the Note 3 (G2 feels much snappier imo), but considering the G2 was free, it was a no brainer.
I definitely use to be a Samsung whore lol, and I don't miss a single thing about about the Note 3. I also didn't think I'd enjoy on-screen buttons, but after two days of using the G2, pushing the home button my Note 2 feels horrible in comparison.
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I have both, best of both worlds.
If the G2 had ext sd support and no on screen buttons it would be pretty much perfect.
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Note 3 to nexus 5 to g2
It just made sense

I had the note 3, liked it a lot, but had software issues, crashed often,so replaced, my daughter also has the same problem with hers, i have found the signal, battery and software better than the note 3.we have the note 2, s4 and note 3 at home and i prefer the G2.

I got the note 3 on Sprint on day one release, took it back six days later and waited for the g2.
The size issue I have with the Note3 is that it was to large for a phone and to small for a tablet. I wanted it bigger.
And then their is the over-saturated colours even on the "Pro" setting. Touchwiz (FUGLY)
The only thing I wish I would have waited on is the LG Flex. It's like a bigger G2.
For me the G2 is damn near perfect.

I am in a big dillema, should i go with the Note 3 or the G2. It seems that the G2 somwhow outdo the Note 3 and offers some pretty useful features. One of them is the On-Screen, where you can control your phone from your computer directly..... looks and sound awesome. Cant wait to try it out ))

Can't you always I that through avd
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had note3 for 10days... sold n bought g2...
g2 has better development support, no Knox issues etc.
never regret the decision :good:

force70 said:
I have both, best of both worlds.
If the G2 had ext sd support and no on screen buttons it would be pretty much perfect.
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+1

So, what you think that to go with the G2 is the better option ? I am only tempted for the note because of the S-pen, I am a student and probably this will be an useful addition to me. Although, the G2 offers a very quick way to open the memo and start typing even with fingers...... What do you guys think ?

Eduardt said:
So, what you think that to go with the G2 is the better option ? I am only tempted for the note because of the S-pen, I am a student and probably this will be an useful addition to me. Although, the G2 offers a very quick way to open the memo and start typing even with fingers...... What do you guys think ?
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Honestly, I'd say the best way to decide is to try them both for a few days. I know this isn't an option for a lot of people but most stores have at least a small return policy. The S-pen is really really handy so if you think you'd find that useful, then the Note 3 is the obvious choice here. For everything else, I'd go with the G2 personally.

Don't forget the option to use foldable bluetooth keyboard & bluetooth mouse to type.....This feature alone has helped me many times

tiguy99 said:
Don't forget the option to use foldable bluetooth keyboard & bluetooth mouse to type.....This feature alone has helped me many times
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How this helped you buddy ? You've been using it throughout your classes to write or what ?

Missing the Note III tbh

Can someone tell me, if he is using the note taking features on the G2 and how is it ? From one side, I want a note 3 because i know that the updated TW which is expected to be soon, will be something very very impressive without any doubt and tbh i am little afraid that LG is a smaller company and wont be on the level on which Sammy is.... So if we look for a future safety dont you think that the note 3 is the best pick ?

LOL i should have just responded to this thread instead of starting a new one, but here goes.
I was a Note 3 preorder guy. I had the phone for 3 weeks....
AND. I sold it to pick up the new white Verizon G2.
The Note 3 was a HUGE disappointment!
The device feels terrible in the hand, with its sharp edges.
Using it outside when the wind blows it wants to fly out of your hands like a sail,
One handed operation, when your sitting down on the crapper is impossible, you cant make that thumb stretch without dropping it.
Touchwiz is really annoying with all kinds of crap constantly popping up in your face. my magazine, searches, bla bla bla.
The Note 3 is overly bloated and feels slow.
The Spen, its cool for about a week, then the Novelty wears off. and you never use it again. (the Spen DOES make 100% sense on the 10.1 2014 tablet which we have however, just need to ditch the TW.)
The external speaker AND the phone speaker are TERRIBLE on the Note 3. No good volume or clarity, a tinny sound and phone call volume never high enough if you cant hear the other party. Even with all the mods out bump the volume it makes it sound worse.
The USB 3 connecter is huge and ugly and I never noticed any difference.
Samsungs continued KNOX and other locking shenanigans. this should be the #1 reason to stay away.. lol
DEVELOPMENT! Development on the Note 3 due to Samsungs Garbage software is a complete hilarious JOKE.
The VZW section for instance has 3 lousy threads! No LOKI. etc. so no kernels. and the Devs who were working on those 3 threads were just doing it for the Bounty money or as a favor.
I could go on and on with my experience about the Note 3. It was a huge letdown.
After I got the Note 3, I started to see the G2 development community really start heating up, and caught my eye.
I come from an Old Galaxy Nexus, and used PGM/touch control for a knock on type wake and I loved it, once I saw "knock on"
on the G2 as a native feature it really piqued my interest.
I got my white vzw G2 on wednesday and I adore it, everything makes sense!
LG did a wonderful job with the stock rom. (there are a few small tweaks I would like such as better looking folders) but for the most part its
amazing.
The LG optimus UI has most of the features you see on custom roms.
it "feels" extremely light, not bloated or resource killing whatsoever.
**PERFORMANCE!
My G2 boots in 23seconds according to start up manager.
The device overall just feels so much more powerful and snappy.
Disk/File IO KILLS the Note 3, pulling up huge app lists, or in app manager, etc.. is instant.
The Note 3 stuttered and got stupid and would FC its own garbage apps, freeze up, etc.. Where the G2 is soo rock solid.
While, Granted the G2 has the shiny back it feels like a much more "premium" device, than the tacky East Asian style of the fake stitched back cover on the Note 3. The Note 3 fake leather back reminds me of those cheap fixtures in Chinese buffets that try to look "expensive"
Display: G2 hands down. I brought my Note 3 into the verizon store, and put both devices side by side both at 100% brightness in an extremely bright room. G2 colors look better, is clearer and more vibrant without the oversaturation. I swear the lcd panel draws faster than amoled, but idk..
Audio! - The phone speaker sounds great, first call I made I was like WOW! it can get extremely LOUD, but not in a screetchy ear bleeding way, in a full clear juicy big kind of way. External speaker sounds full and crystal clear, while the Note 3 speaker sounds very very tinny..
Audio over Bluetooth sounds much better in the car than the Note 3, again much more clearer and open.
Sorry: I prefer onscreen buttons. arrange the buttons in any configuration that tickles my fancy, I can also shrink down that Nav bar with g2 xposed to 60% from its original size while losing 0 of the functionality. With the Note 3 I was constantly bumping the capacitive buttons. and
the Home button is so heavy you have to slam your thumb on that button like a goon, its silly.
Development: Development on the G2 is smokin'! At this point Why buy a Nexus 5?
The G2 has got to be the easiest phone to root and install recovery on, you get more diverse variety of roms, utilizing LG UI and or hybrids of or straight up AOSP. but all on BETTER hardware and can be had for around the same price.
I can go on and on, But I'm loving the G2, and even the stock rom with tweaks.
The LG G2 This Is The Best Android Handset You Can Buy Right Now.
I know that many of my points could be argued otherwise, but as the dude says.
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Well, I went and got one. Looks empty. It! It's one handed!!! Mad to think that a small phone is 'only ' 5.2 inches!!!
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