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'AnTuTu pegs Galaxy S III as most powerful Android device,

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Ah, the*Galaxy S III. We always knew it'd be a keystone among Android smartphones, but according to the AnTuTu benchmark suite, it'll be the one device to rule them all. While there's no way to verify whether this test is indeed legitimate, all Android users may currently peep the AnTuTu app, which not only shows the smartphone as having bested the mighty*Transformer Prime*tablet, but it also reveals the most comprehensive set of specs we've yet seen for the Galaxy S III -- again, take this with a grain of salt. The device is said to wield a Samsung*Exynos 4212 SoC*with a dual-core 1.4GHz CPU, 1GB of RAM and a 4.7-inch, 720p HD display. This lines up similarly with the*product listing*from Amazon Germany, as the specs also reveal a 12 megapixel primary camera on the rear, along with a 2MP shooter on the front. No big surprises for the OS, which is listed as Android 4.0. Should the benchmark tests turn out to be legitimate, the*HTC One X*will no doubt have some very stiff competition.
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I need the galaxy s3 to look better than the one x or galaxy nexus. And that goes for the screen as well have you guys seen the one x display.
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I haven't seen the screen, but they say it's way better than our amoled. Regardless, I will get the gs3 even if it had no screen. I want the best/fastest/most powerful Android device
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with that many pixels one picture and your phone storage will blow up, 1200megapixel

Won't the nexus that comes around xmas time for the past 3 years running have similar if not better specs and sport the pure Android first in line upgrade experience for users? I'm not getting all the fuss over the s3 when nexus will be right behind by a few months. Last nexus was delayed because of lte. So we got it 5 months late.
Nexus gets jellybean out of box
S3 users will beg for leaks
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I find Antutu to be the only benchmark I trust.

jamesey said:
Won't the nexus that comes around xmas time for the past 3 years running have similar if not better specs and sport the pure Android first in line upgrade experience for users? I'm not getting all the fuss over the s3 when nexus will be right behind by a few months. Last nexus was delayed because of lte. So we got it 5 months late.
Nexus gets jellybean out of box
S3 users will beg for leaks
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Same logic would suggests that the Galaxy S4 would just be a few months behind that nexus then. Galaxy phones have been coming out around mid year where nexus phones have been coming out end of the year, and then tack on a few months more for carrier delays. The Galaxy phones have all been about specs and design. Sides, with enough developers working on it to push out AOSP roms, "pure google" isn't that hard to obtain.

beserker15 said:
Same logic would suggests that the Galaxy S4 would just be a few months behind that nexus then. Galaxy phones have been coming out around mid year where nexus phones have been coming out end of the year, and then tack on a few months more for carrier delays. The Galaxy phones have all been about specs and design. Sides, with enough developers working on it to push out AOSP roms, "pure google" isn't that hard to obtain.
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Yeah, but leaks come many months after new major Android update
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If the 2 newest/best phones come out and idk which to pick, I'm going with the one with most developer support. Root wins my decision <3
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jamesey said:
Yeah, but leaks come many months after new major Android update
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Right, and carrier delays also force the nexus to come many months after that new Android update as well lol. Unless you're going to switch away from Sprint and going with a GSM carrier, Sprint's Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus both came 5-6 months after their international brothers.

Personally I don't understand why everyone loves the nexus so much...It has the exact same specs as the S2 but NFC capable and worse camera. I don't get it. OMG it has onscreen buttons, i could care less...a nice camera means about 1000x more to me. Pure ICS, pretty sure I already have that via flashing roms. I don't know if Nexus has AOKP but "pure ICS < AOKP

brekec88 said:
Personally I don't understand why everyone loves the nexus so much...It has the exact same specs as the S2 but NFC capable and worse camera. I don't get it. OMG it has onscreen buttons, i could care less...a nice camera means about 1000x more to me. Pure ICS, pretty sure I already have that via flashing roms. I don't know if Nexus has AOKP but "pure ICS < AOKP
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Thank you. Ive been wanting to say this for the longest time

brekec88 said:
Personally I don't understand why everyone loves the nexus so much...It has the exact same specs as the S2 but NFC capable and worse camera. I don't get it. OMG it has onscreen buttons, i could care less...a nice camera means about 1000x more to me. Pure ICS, pretty sure I already have that via flashing roms. I don't know if Nexus has AOKP but "pure ICS < AOKP
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I agree, but I hope the next nexus will be competitive on both specs and design since the S3 is kind of a disappointment already.
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Pheno.menon said:
I agree, but I hope the next nexus will be competitive on both specs and design since the S3 is kind of a disappointment already.
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Really? How so? I mean I guess as of now its all
just speculation but a little bigger screen, 12 mp camera and quad core processor. That alone makes me a little hard. Take my money please.

brekec88 said:
Really? How so? I mean I guess as of now its all
just speculation but a little bigger screen, 12 mp camera and quad core processor. That alone makes me a little hard. Take my money please.
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It's the CPU/GPU that are pissing people off, and I completely understand because I am too. The Galaxy s phones are supposed to be powerhouses. The previous two were faaaar ahead of their time. This phone uses some A9 chip with the old Mali400, which has been long outdated. All they did was overclock it. That GPU can't render triangles if its life depended on it.

What about audio chip. I have an Sgs ii and dont use it because it cannot record videos under loud conditions such as concerts. All you get is noise.
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jamesey said:
Won't the nexus that comes around xmas time for the past 3 years running have similar if not better specs and sport the pure Android first in line upgrade experience for users? I'm not getting all the fuss over the s3 when nexus will be right behind by a few months. Last nexus was delayed because of lte. So we got it 5 months late.
Nexus gets jellybean out of box
S3 users will beg for leaks
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cm10 will be waiting around the corner for s3 users at that time

MultiLockOn said:
It's the CPU/GPU that are pissing people off, and I completely understand because I am too.... This phone uses some A9 chip with the old Mali400, which has been long outdated. All they did was overclock it. That GPU can't render triangles if its life depended on it.
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Really -- I mean from information we have now, which one will you take Tegra3 GPU or Mali400 clocked at 440Mhz? or Adreno 225?
Everyone knows about low memory bandwidth issues with Tegra, and Adreno isn't that a powerhouse in GPU. Samsung has always stated multiple times this year that their aim is battery life and efficiency.
http://androidandme.com/2012/01/news/samsung-promises-full-day-of-battery-life-for-2012-smartphones/
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Recently power consumption for mobile devices have increased a lot and mobile devices have limited cooling capability....Samsung optimized its 45 nm processor for performance first and later found it could not get its full performance without exceeding power consumption limits. The 32 nm chip was optimized first for power consumption

rd_nest said:
Really -- I mean from information we have now, which one will you take Tegra3 GPU or Mali400 clocked at 440Mhz? or Adreno 225?
Everyone knows about low memory bandwidth issues with Tegra, and Adreno isn't that a powerhouse in GPU. Samsung has always stated multiple times this year that their aim is battery life and efficiency.
http://androidandme.com/2012/01/news/samsung-promises-full-day-of-battery-life-for-2012-smartphones/
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Recently power consumption for mobile devices have increased a lot and mobile devices have limited cooling capability....Samsung optimized its 45 nm processor for performance first and later found it could not get its full performance without exceeding power consumption limits. The 32 nm chip was optimized first for power consumption
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That's an interesting comparison between the 4 GPU's, most benchmarks I've seen lean towards the Adreno 225 or the PVR MP2 used in the iPhone. How much more power would really be used by a Mali T6 card over the Mali 400 :/

[Q] Poll: Galaxy S3 US vs. Nexus 4

The Galaxy S3 is one of the best selling smartphones of all time, is there any reason to upgrade from the S3 US to the Nexus 4? and how noticeable of an improvement would the Quad Core S4 Pro be over the Dual S4 Chip in the S3 US.

Shenkoa said:
The Galaxy S3 is one of the best selling smartphones of all time, is there any reason to upgrade from the S3 US to the Nexus 4? and how noticeable of an improvement would the Quad Core S4 Pro be over the Dual S4 Chip in the S3 US.
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This thread shoul be post at s3 forum because most of the user that answer this question is from variety devices. Btw i'm using optimus 2x :laugh:

Shenkoa said:
The Galaxy S3 is one of the best selling smartphones of all time, is there any reason to upgrade from the S3 US to the Nexus 4? and how noticeable of an improvement would the Quad Core S4 Pro be over the Dual S4 Chip in the S3 US.
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I would not upgrade, you can just wait until a 4.2 AOSP ROM for the GS3 comes out. In terms of Hardware, they are not that different: both have a quad core, a similar sized HD screen, and both are just insanely fast (I believe, at least

balducien said:
I would not upgrade, you can just wait until a 4.2 AOSP ROM for the GS3 comes out. In terms of Hardware, they are not that different: both have a quad core, a similar sized HD screen, and both are just insanely fast (I believe, at least
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Good luck with that.

Mods, please move my poll to the T-Mobile Galaxy S3 Q&A, thank you

One of the major pros of a Google phone is Google updates. No waiting for carriers.
That's a good enough reason for me, to be honest. I have an S3.

theexel said:
One of the major pros of a Google phone is Google updates. No waiting for carriers.
That's a good enough reason for me, to be honest. I have an S3.
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exactly, I can live with no sdcard, and none removable battery but I want pure android, thats the main reason I switching it. I am S3 user atm though.

Red Wolf said:
exactly, I can live with no sdcard, and none removable battery but I want pure android, thats the main reason I switching it. I am S3 user atm though.
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What about all of the fancy features offered with Touch-whiz?

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What about all of the fancy features offered with Touch-whiz?
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I don't like TW, and I was waiting to get nexus since the first 1 but those build quality weren't that good.
If you ask me about samsung hardware build quality I would say its crappy but the best one out there though

Red Wolf said:
exactly, I can live with no sdcard, and none removable battery but I want pure android, thats the main reason I switching it. I am S3 user atm though.
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I have a Vibrant...yes the Samsung lost abandon phone...I was thinking next phone will only be google phone ...BUT LG kinda stunk it I think. I was willing to pay as much as iphone, but
I found it has
NO 32GB,
NO External SD,
NO removable battery
NO Glonass
NO LTE (<====? Common everything is heading toward LTE now, why? why??)
Now, I'm thinking I probably go with Samsung Galaxy S III i9305 not the i9300 (it has everything and 2GB ram)

kobesabi said:
I have a Vibrant...yes the Samsung lost abandon phone...I was thinking next phone will only be google phone ...BUT LG kinda stunk it I think. I was willing to pay as much as iphone, but
I found it has
NO 32GB,
NO External SD,
NO removable battery
NO Glonass
NO LTE (<====? Common everything is heading toward LTE now, why? why??)
Now, I'm thinking I probably go with Samsung Galaxy S III i9305 not the i9300 (it has everything and 2GB ram)
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The Nexus 4 does in fact have GLONASS support, according to this comparison.
Also, LTE was abandoned because Google didn't want to partner with carriers (especially in the US) to launch Nexus devices, considering how badly Verizon handled Galaxy Nexus updates. Google's cooperation with At&t/Verizon would have reportedly made it more financially feasible to add LTE.

I am interested to hear reviews from those going from an S3 to a Nexus 4. I feel I would prefer the S3 over the Nexus 4, the Nexus 4 is just too cheap to pass up though. I currently have a Galaxy Nexus and love it. But I have spent some time with an S3 and would rather have that over my GN.

i just played with the n4 at my local store and let me say that n4 mops the floor with it..it is amazingly fast..having a ported 4.2 aosp build for the s3 is not the same as having the orginal 4.2..****, i have a hox and the n4 blows the hox out of the water..and the good thing is, google is going to release the n4 with 32gb..no source..just have been told by a google employee

Ah things get a little more interesting when the British, Aussie, European (and so on) Galaxy S3's are thrown into the mix.
Then it's Quad Core Exynos 4412 vs Quad Core Snapdragon S4 Pro
1GB vs 2GB RAM
The mobile networks around the world are quicker to provide updates than the American 'carriers'
BATTLE OF THE TITANS!!!

Yes, especially if you have the international version which has less than stellar custom ROM support.
My Galaxy S3 is the phone that single-handedly convinced me only buy Nexus phones from now on.

So what are your thoughts, those who have went from the S3 to the Nexus 4? I am curious.

hello00 said:
i just played with the n4 at my local store and let me say that n4 mops the floor with it..it is amazingly fast..having a ported 4.2 aosp build for the s3 is not the same as having the orginal 4.2..****, i have a hox and the n4 blows the hox out of the water..and the good thing is, google is going to release the n4 with 32gb..no source..just have been told by a google employee
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Awwww. That's messed up how they didn't release a 32GB version from the start. I'm fine with 16GB, but nothing wrong with having more storage.
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As someone who has switched to the Nexus 4 from the AT&T S3, these are my thoughts.
Cons:
- No removable storage.
- No LTE (not that big of a deal imo)
- No Removable Battery (never removed my battery, so don't care)
- Nexus 4 is made of glass, and slides off almost everything.
- Screen is less sensitive (I've frequently had to tap multiple time for it to be registered)
- Better battery life on the S3 (but I haven't had my N4 for very long)
- No hardware home button on the front (this is a nice convenience imo.)
- Better Camera on the S3
- Louder speakers on the S3 (N4 is barely audible in the shower)
Pros
- N4 feels so much better than the S3. Swiping feels superb, holding the phone feels great, and the N4 looks much better than S3.
- AOSP Out of the Box (I didn't think this would be a big deal, but I've been using the phone unrooted and wow, its like everything just works how I want it to.)
- Direct updates from Google (no more waiting on custom roms and leaks)
- Better Screen (everything looks a lot more realistic and better imo)
- Faster (everything is so smooth on the N4 and I haven't seen any lag or stutter yet as I did [rarely] on the S3. This creates a better experience.)
My experience with the Nexus 4 is that it just feels better to use than the S3. Its something you have to try for yourself I guess.

hello00 said:
i just played with the n4 at my local store and let me say that n4 mops the floor with it..it is amazingly fast..having a ported 4.2 aosp build for the s3 is not the same as having the orginal 4.2..****, i have a hox and the n4 blows the hox out of the water..and the good thing is, google is going to release the n4 with 32gb..no source..just have been told by a google employee
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Are you sure? When? Because then i can wait instead of ordering the 16 gb one tomorrow

tiru.adi13 said:
Are you sure? When? Because then i can wait instead of ordering the 16 gb one tomorrow
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hello00 thought that a new nexus 4 was going to be released by google, but... five months ago!!

Wait for N5 or get S4

I love my N4, but the S4 definitely shows up with some tempting features. Should I wait for the N5?
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You need to make that decision for yourself. I personally am never leaving nexus because I can't stand the crap HTC and at&t put me through, and updates from carriers are extremely slow and unlocking your boot loader voids your warranty, etc. I'm done with it. I can tolerate no LTE and slightly older hardware if it means being the top dog and getting catered to by Google.
In the end, only you can make the choice. There are pros and cons for each device
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A typical S3, S4 shopper doesn't know what and Android is, they just buy what they are told to be the other phone that is not an Iphone, the words "operation system" makes them bertstare at you, do you want to be associated with them?

At this point in the game, no matter how powerful phones will get, the N4's hardware will be good for years, we're overkilling our needs currently in my opinion.
It may be behind in synthetic benchmarks and will get left in the dust from now on but seriously, a quad core krait, Adreno 320, and 2GB of RAM? It'll be fine for a while.
Remember, most apps and even probably most games only use/need a basic dual core and a gig of RAM for functioning.

Imo, if you're into AMOLED, then go for the S4. I love Nexus devices, I love theming for them and what not. S3 didn't really wowed me much but the S4 managed to do so, I used it yesterday and I fell for it! Mainly because I'm very much into AMOLED and I love that crisp 1080p display.

If you asked us whether to jump off the bridge or not and we told you yes do it, would have you done it?
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Personally, I'd go back to a dumb phone before buying a non-nexus. I will be sticking with my n4 until the 6th generation Nexus phone comes out though.
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jhotmann said:
Personally, I'd go back to a dumb phone before buying a non-nexus. I will be sticking with my n4 until the 6th generation Nexus phone comes out though.
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My thoughts exactly. I'll be sticking with this n4 until the dubbed "nexus 5" is released. The. Current n4 to the new n4 is essentially an HTC one X to an HTC One X+.
Its not a major upgrade, but its there for people that need to upgrade.. Or just want to
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Saw a review of the n4 vs the s4. Obviously didn't pass the s4 in processing power . but they pointed out that most apps don't even take advantage of the speed that the n4 possess. Hardware wasn't that much different. Yes the s4 will have a few magical features like eye scrolling, whoop de do! But the plastic cheap body is still there.
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I don't know why anyone would get s Samsung with their excessive bloat and Gingerbread ui

Im sticking with nexus phones once i went nexus i cant see myself going back to a galaxy phone
NEXUS⁴

Stick with N4 and wait for N5, forget about Samsung and the galaxy s3s I meant galaxy s4..
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I will probably stick with the N4 at least until the N6 is released. Our device will not be slow anytime soon, and I don't think in half a year there would be apps our device can't run smoothly.

I can't stand amoled.
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Woohoo
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Programs are getting more lightweight and I/O's are getting the same way and more efficient. N4 will crush for a few more years
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I can't stand amoled.
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I've owned 3 devices with SAMOLED and all of them have had issues. My SGS died and went green, My SGS II would go orange/Yellow at medium brightness and the GNexus had a slight blue tint. Switched to the N4 and love the screen.
My N4 will be with me for a long time yet. Looks amazing up against more plasticy phones

look at the HTC one before looking at the S4, im getting the One myself tonight.

I'm going to have to agree with most replies posted already. I'm sticking with the Nexus 4 for another year, then maybe getting a Nexus 6 (or whatever that next Nexus device will be called). The phone is so insanely cheap, yet packs the latest and greatest hardware. It's perfect. Yeah, the newer phones coming out like the S4 will have slightly better hardware, but it's been 6 months since the Nexus 4 got released. That happens with every cell phone in the history of cell phones. Heck, the Nexus 5 will probably have better hardware than the S4 when it finally comes out.
I guess what I'm trying to say OP, is make that decision for yourself. All phones have their pros and cons. If I were in your shoes, I would try to wait for the N5, but I can see the appeal of getting the S4. It's a darn-good phone, and you don't have to wait for it to be released. Actually, I was in your shoes a few weeks ago. I ended up getting the Nexus 4 because it's still a solid phone, and I don't have to wait for the Nexus 5 to come out, plus I can get it off contract for close to the price I'd have to pay for the S4 on-contract. There are multiple things you have to consider when making that decision. Some things that helped me make my decision and will help you makes yours is some comparison articles. Google something like "Nexus 4 vs Galaxy S4". The article will be comparing the Nexus 4 instead of the Nexus 5, but it will still be helpful because they usually touch on things like pure Android vs company-customized Android and the pros and cons of each, among other important things.
Actually, depending on how time-sensitive your decision is, I would wait until Google's I/O event to see if they will be revealing a newer version of the N4, or maybe teasing the specs of the N5. That should help your decision.

For me software plays a big part and with a nexus device we will see 4.3 soon, and key lime pie after that. The sgs4 and others will still be on older software.
Sure the Samsung has a better camera, expendable storage, removable battery if those things are important too you then purchase the Samsung. For me 16gb is enough for my needs, the battery lasts me a day without having to recharge, and the camera takes ok shots I can live with that until the next nexus.
Decide what you need out of a phone, only you can decide that, handle the Samsung and see how you feel with it.
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NEW NEXUS 7 Specs!

http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/05/09/new-nexus-7-to-be-highlight-of-google-io-analyst-says
http://www.androidauthority.com/nexus-7-android-4-3-jelly-bean-snapdragon-s4-pro-206454/
First day buy for me.

Hmm, Now I get to decide if I should wait for the announcement, or return my Nexus 7 now....

Looks like I bought mine at the wrong time, oh well.
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If these specs are accurate, I'm a little concerned about battery life. Doesn't the current gen Nexus 7 have a 4350 mah battery? With a 1080p screen and slightly smaller battery you'd be lucky to get decent battery life even with a more efficient soc. They should have stuck with current resolution or improved battery capacity.
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Looks good but yes concerned about battery life. Also needs 2GB of Ram. But if its $199 for 16GB and $249 for 32GB then its a first day buy for me.

Not concerned.
There is no way Google wiil put out a Nexus 7 successor with much worst battery life.

Fake

i'll be there...
if the specs for the next generation of nexus 7 come even anywhere close to this, i am [IN]. the funniest part of this is the timing... tomorrow i am giving my self-rooted, completely customized and "fully loaded" 1st gen nexus 7 to a good buddy of mine as a gesture of kindness since his ex just left him earlier this week and stole his laptop pc (and much other stuff). i guess karma is on my side right now!

to be honest....... whats everyone getting excited about? all i see is added cam.?

I just bought a used Nexus 7 for a good price, so no 2nd generation Nexus 7 for me...
Oh well, I saved a lot of money and got it a few months earlier (who knows how long it will take us to get it here in Canada, especially if it sells out fast again).
I don't care about the camera since I don't plan to take pictures with it and I have a camera in my smartphone. Slightly better screen and processor is nice but not worth the extra money.

I just bought a nexus and dont need any better specs, for me there's no need to upgrade,if everything runs fast no need for next nexus.
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So I was planning for N7 1st gen, but I think I can wait a lil bit more, considering that we have a Qualcomm powered quadcore cpu... The HD front camera + 5MP rear camera are on the line too...... hoping that it will be woth the wait........

mvan4310 said:
Hmm, Now I get to decide if I should wait for the announcement, or return my Nexus 7 now....
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It's almost 100% sure that the next gen Nexus 7 will be available but if you wait for the announcement the price of first gen will drop REALLY low, considering that the next one will also sell really cheap.

Rear camera is a waste of resources

Another rumor:
"The chipset of choice would be the latest Snapdragon 800 (a.k.a beast) instead of any older model."
http://vr-zone.com/articles/updated...ution-display-and-a-snapdragon-800/20038.html

lolcopter said:
Rear camera is a waste of resources
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Agree..
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Qbancelli said:
Another rumor:
"The chipset of choice would be the latest Snapdragon 800 (a.k.a beast) instead of any older model."
http://vr-zone.com/articles/updated...ution-display-and-a-snapdragon-800/20038.html
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I was under the impression that the SD 800 wasn't going to be availible for a few more months (in the Fall iirc)

I doubt we will see a Snap Dragon 800 with the existing price point.

If Google is planning to release the new Nexus 7 at I/O then it wouldn't include the SnapDragon 800 because as was stated it won't reach production until fall.
I sure hope these specs are true though because I consider that a good upgrade over the current Nexus 7 and will buy it as soon as possible.

why did i just read the above post in a VERY loud voice inside my head?
anyway, i dont see this shipping with the SD800, i could see the 600 though but if they are going to keep it the same price point, i would be just peachy with the S4 Pro. its kinda what i figured they would do to keep the price lower, give this a speed increase, a resolution bump, a RAM bump, and a rear camera.
they need two versions for the same price. one with rear camera and S4 Pro, one with no rear camera and Snapdragon 600

Nexus 7 with Kitkat vs Retina Ipad mini

As we now, we are the second device in the list of devices which will get android Kitkat. the exact date confirmed for kitkat release is in about 1 or 2 weeks.
Google bought Flexycore for 23 Million, and they worked hard in kitkat android to optimize all at max.
What is flexycore?
it's a company which focus in soft optimization in android. they (with google) optimized all in kitkat for a great perfomance, graphics & battery use.
so, normally when we get through android versions (ej: From GB to ICS) we get a little bit less perfomance and smoothness, but, not now, if you thought of buying an ipad mini 2 because you are stupid then retreat from that, because a quad-core optimized to run at max will get you into a new level. trust me.
Kitkat does run AMAZING in devices with just 512 MB ram and a 1GHZ processor, imagine kitkat in a new nexus 7, will be as fast as light.
as of ROMS,Developement,Rooting,Apps, i don't know anything about that, i just know that this update is going to be a big hit.
here are some sites i read about it..
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/10/22/google-aims-improve-android-4-4-kitkat-flexycore/
http://androidandme.com/2013/10/news/google-buys-flexycore-creator-of-droidbooster-optimization-app/
i also made this thread to tell the users who want to buy the new ipad mini 2, that, basing in TRUE information, nexus 7 owns it. see:
Screen : 323/324 PPI N7 FHD vs 326 PPI Ipad Mini Retina (not noticeable. so it's not a plus for ipad mini 2)
point for both
Processor : Quad-core 1.5GHZ Qualcomm Snapdragon "S4 PRO" modified to be similar to next gen snapdragon. the Ipad mini has a 64 bit processor so it's supposed to be better, but with less cores.
point for ipad mini 2
Design : Shut up *****, Nexus 7 design it's not bad, it's awesome for me. if you personally like ipad mini 2 design most we don't care.
point for both
Apps & Games: thinking of future, android since this year become the best mobile gaming platform. think of it, all games which were not on android and where HITS on IOS appeared all of them this year at android. also some games which are free in android are paid in IOS.
also, google has much more of apps than apple, as google has GMAPS, GMAIL, Chrome, all Gapps (you know), apple just itunes, safari and another ****ty thing no one likes. but, as that was a personal like/dislike i just count the gaming part.
point for nexus 7 fhd
GPS : oh yeah the ipad mini doesn't have one.
point for nexus 7 fhd
Price : well, $600+ Ipad mini 2 vs $300+ Nexus 7 LTE 32 GB.
point for nexus 7 fhd
Weight compared to size: nexus 7, the ipadmini 2 became heavier from 1 gen to 2 gen.
point for nexus 7 fhd
Portability:
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point for nexus 7 fhd
RAM and Multitasking: Nexus 7 has 2 GB of ram, ipad just 512... also you can download a task killer or set minfree values in android.
point for nexus 7 fhd
and well. lots more of things, you may notice that.
and it's not that IPAD MINI 2 is better, it's not, it's worth double. if the nexus 7 would cost $600 it would have maybe an armv8 processor or a much better screen. it's obvious. the price matter. nexus 7 wins.
if you want to get then a fast phone / tablet get japanese ones, they have the best processor technology / screen technology, but no services like google has.
please sorry me for the bad english..

Nachospeicys said:
Screen : 323/324 PPI N7 FHD vs 326 PPI Ipad Mini Retina (not noticeable. so it's not a plus for ipad mini 2)
point for both
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Screens are pretty much equal, can call this equal.
Processor : Quad-core 1.5GHZ Qualcomm Snapdragon "S4 PRO" modified to be similar to next gen snapdragon. the Ipad mini has a 64 bit processor so it's supposed to be better, but with less cores.
point for ipad mini 2
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To me, it's a bit moot. They aren't for the same platform, so it's not necessarily more cores is better, or more advanced cores. It's all in how the software uses it.
Design : Shut up *****, Nexus 7 design it's not bad, it's awesome for me. if you personally like ipad mini 2 design most we don't care.
point for both
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Clearly, you are not being completely subjective, as expected.
Apps & Games: thinking of future, android since this year become the best mobile gaming platform. think of it, all games which were not on android and where HITS on IOS appeared all of them this year at android. also some games which are free in android are paid in IOS.
also, google has much more of apps than apple, as google has GMAPS, GMAIL, Chrome, all Gapps (you know), apple just itunes, safari and another ****ty thing no one likes. but, as that was a personal like/dislike i just count the gaming part.
point for nexus 7 fhd
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Free in Android but ad-supported. The problem I find with Android is there aren't nearly as many tablet-optimized apps as I expected there would be, this late into the game. Many are still stretched phone apps, sadly.
iOS is way better for kids games, imo, than Android is. The quality of the kids games on iOS is much farther ahead.
GPS : oh yeah the ipad mini doesn't have one.
point for nexus 7 fhd
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Sure does, when you buy the iPad mini with cellular
Price : well, $600+ Ipad mini 2 vs $300+ Nexus 7 LTE 32 GB.
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Definitely, too much of a price difference to compare with here. Nexus wins this.
Weight compared to size: nexus 7, the ipadmini 2 became heavier from 1 gen to 2 gen.
point for nexus 7 fhd
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True but we're talking 32grams weight difference here. That's almost negligible really.
Portability:
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Fair enough, the ipad mini is about 0.7 inches wider than the N7. If that matters that much, but it's not as big a difference between the 2 as your image is trying to show
RAM and Multitasking: Nexus 7 has 2 GB of ram, ipad just 512... also you can download a task killer or set minfree values in android.
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iOS doesn't "truly multitask" but the iPad mini has at least 1GB RAM, and iOS has always been the standard by which OS "responsiveness" and "fluidity" is measured.
and well. lots more of things, you may notice that.
and it's not that IPAD MINI 2 is better, it's not, it's worth double. if the nexus 7 would cost $600 it would have maybe an armv8 processor or a much better screen. it's obvious. the price matter. nexus 7 wins.
if you want to get then a fast phone / tablet get japanese ones, they have the best processor technology / screen technology, but no services like google has.
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It's not necessarily that Nexus 7 is clearly better than iPad mini either. It really depends on what the person wants from the tablet.
Your points are clearly looking for things that you like about the N7, and that's fair and all. But being honest about the differences, and not skewing them to suit your view, is really what "fair" is about.
Different devices, different prices, different target consumers, imo. The price is a big factor in that, as is the ecosystem.
We can just simply enjoy our devices, no need to try to convince ourselves that we made the right choice, whichever that may be. :good:

Kit Kat is the main reason I'm keeping the Nexus 7...

It's not necessarily that Nexus 7 is clearly better than iPad mini either. It really depends on what the person wants from the tablet.
Your points are clearly looking for things that you like about the N7, and that's fair and all. But being honest about the differences, and not skewing them to suit your view, is really what "fair" is about.
Different devices, different prices, different target consumers, imo. The price is a big factor in that, as is the ecosystem.
We can just simply enjoy our devices, no need to try to convince ourselves that we made the right choice, whichever that may be. :good:
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i tried to be the less subjective. but, as you like apple you have to admit that here in this android forum we treat apple better than the apple fanboys which treat google/android like ****.

Nachospeicys said:
As we now, we are the second device in the list of devices which will get android Kitkat. the exact date confirmed for kitkat release is in about 1 or 2 weeks.
Google bought Flexycore for 23 Million, and they worked hard in kitkat android to optimize all at max.
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First, do you have any source for the release of kit kat? There hasn't been anything official about the release of it at all... So that's already reducing your credibility.
Second, is there any proof that the modification from that company will be included with kit kat or released later on down the road? How can you be sure that it's going to be included in this os?
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phishfi said:
First, do you have any source for the release of kit kat? There hasn't been anything official about the release of it at all... So that's already reducing your credibility.
Second, is there any proof that the modification from that company will be included with kit kat or released later on down the road? How can you be sure that it's going to be included in this os?
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He is probably making assumptions about what will be included in KitKat as has half of the world for the past month.
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I tried flexycore's droidbooster app on my n7 and HTC one, both running jb 4.3, and it showed an 5.5-6 times performance gain. I wasn't very anxious for kitkat (hate the candy bar) but since I found that out I am.

godutch said:
I tried flexycore's droidbooster app on my n7 and HTC one, both running jb 4.3, and it showed an 5.5-6 times performance gain. I wasn't very anxious for kitkat (hate the candy bar) but since I found that out I am.
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Link to demo? Like to see it.

mi7chy said:
Link to demo? Like to see it.
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Remember it is just a benchmarking tool and a very ugly one at that but the results are amazing
http://wap.stevebasu.net/android-app-download/en/50435/DroidBooster_1.0-apk.html

Nachospeicys said:
i tried to be subjective. but, as you like apple you have to admit that here in this android forum we treat apple better than the apple fanboys which treat google/android like ****.
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It shouldnt matter what other people say or do. I dont care much if people call me a phandroid or isheep or whatever. I see the value in an apple device for specific purposes, same as i do with android devices. Does it make me blind or less intelligent that i don't only own one of these devices? To each their own.
The world has much bigger problems than apple vs android.

No... Everything is around apple vs android.
It s mega companies not paying any tax in usa.
Everybody is losing. No winners.

I find Nexus 7 preferable because the weight(mini retina have a huge battery and is going to weigh more than old mini as a result), width (Mini is too wide imo),aspect ratio(Ipad's 4:3 stinks for HD video contents), price( Nexus 7 is $180 cheaper) & Android.
But if you are looking for a 4:3 tablet then you have no choice but Ipads.

NovaSense said:
I find Nexus 7 preferable because the weight(mini retina have a huge battery and is going to weigh more than old mini as a result), width (Mini is too wide imo),aspect ratio(Ipad's 4:3 stinks for HD video contents), price( Nexus 7 is $180 cheaper) & Android.
But if you are looking for a 4:3 tablet then you have no choice but Ipads.
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ipad is not a bad tablet. but, when compared to the nexus 7 , it's difficult to get an ipad since n7 is like the half of the ipad price.
and, if kitkat get's that "boost" with gpu optimization, apps optimization (in november every android tablet will get this via play store) , RAM optimization,etc.. will be amazing, much more amazing than a $600 ipad mini 2.

Right. The kitkat will be ready for thanks giving or right before.
They need it to boost n7 sells.
Many will decide to buy the n7 if battery match or beat the new iPad mini 2

Nachospeicys said:
i tried to be the less subjective. but, as you like apple you have to admit that here in this android forum we treat apple better than the apple fanboys which treat google/android like ****.
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What the f are you talking about. Apple and Google are just corporations who sell electronics made by borderline slaves in the developing world. Why are you taking sides lol, it makes you look pretty pathetic haha.
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Most are made in China and its far ahead of the world, compared to Canada or the USA or even most Europe. So I don't know if you would call it the developing world when we are falling behind them lol.
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kingsway8605 said:
What the f are you talking about. Apple and Google are just corporations who sell electronics made by borderline slaves in the developing world. Why are you taking sides lol, it makes you look pretty pathetic haha.
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yaya buddy you didn't even understand what did i mean with that. get a brain because i will simply won't explain it to you.

I think Nexus 7 and Ipad mini retina are the same

dakunclear said:
Most are made in China and its far ahead of the world, compared to Canada or the USA or even most Europe. So I don't know if you would call it the developing world when we are falling behind them lol.
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Its called the developing world because those people work for a few dollars a day making electronics in terrible conditions.
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dakunclear said:
Most are made in China and its far ahead of the world, compared to Canada or the USA or even most Europe. So I don't know if you would call it the developing world when we are falling behind them lol.
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I'd love to hear how you quantify "ahead." Not that life is a race, but in terms of things like personal freedoms, over population, economy, etc.. I disagree in a very large way. For sure you are right that China cannot fairly be called "developing" or "3rd world," but neither is it hardly a place I can imagine someone from USA, Canada, or Europe willingly immigrating to.