I have just got my Nexus 5 few hours ago, and I thought I would give a quick comparison between the Nexus 5 and the Xperia Z1 while waiting for more in depth comparisons from tech sites. I will keep it short and informative.
Look, Feel and size
The Nexus is alot lighter and smaller but the Z1 is more premium. This doesn't mean that the Nexus looks cheap. the Nexus is very good and the Z1 is excellent in the feel but the Nexus is better when looking at the size or weight.
Performance
Benchmarks
I know it means nothing bla bla bla, but people still wants to see them
antutu benchmark X nexus ~26000, Z1 ~35000
quadrant nexus ~8700, Z1 ~21000
sunspider nexus 745ms, Z1 694ms
I am not sure why the nexus 5 scored less (consideribly less for antutu and quadrant) but I think it has to do with ROM stability as the nexus 5 was turned on for the first time few hours ago.
Real life
just done few tests on opening various websites and apps. the Nexus was milliseconds faster on opening almost all websites except one or two where both phones were as fast. However, opening apps were of the same speed for both phones. (keep in mind that the Z1 has alot going in the background while the nexus was clean)
Screen
I tried viewing various photos and videos but couldn't really say which is better. Some photos were better on the Nexus while other were better on the Z1.
the viewing angle were significantly better in the Nexus, but not perfect though.
The brightness of both devices are almost equal.
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Camera
This is quite hard, I do need some more time to say which is better. But initially, the Nexus has better low light image (the images are softer which has advantage of less noise and disadvantage of less details) but the colors are more accurate in the nexus as well. in good light conditions, the Z1 is better in every way.
Speaker
tried playing various sounds in youtube and the Z1 is Alot louder and of better quality than the Nexus.
Battery
I didn't have time to test the battery life of the nexus of course. However, during testing the previous things, the Z1 dropped ~%25 while the Nexus dropped ~%40. Again, I know that the battery tends to get better after couple of charges but the Z1 had lots of apps installed and lots working in the background while the Nexus was clean. Additionally, the Nexus was in airplane mode while the Z1 had the radio working. all in all, I would say the Z1 battery would be better as expected by the battery size and hopefully it will get better after getting 4.4
I should mention that the Nexus 5 was warmer than the Z1 after finishing these tests.
Advantages of the Z1
Better Battery life
Better camera images in good light conditions
Louder speaker
SD card
more premium feel
doesn't get warm as fast
Advantages of the Nexus5
Android 4.4
Better camera images in low light conditions
better viewing angel
smaller and lighter
Both were as good in
Screen quality
Performance
Here is video showing detailed comparision between the Nexus 5 and the Z1 by shem2409 who came up with similar conclusion.
I don't see the nexus 5 significantly better in anyway compared to my Z1 or SGS4. And the 4.4 update doesn't seem to add much (the Z1 doesn't lack anything compared to the nexus 5) 4.3 and 4.4 mostly added performance improvements which won't really benefit us (Z1 users). The Z1 is already powerful enough and I didn't see it lag or stutter not even once. and I couldn't see any differences between the Z1 and Nexus 5 overall performance. 4.4 will benefit low end and mid range phones more than high end ones. We might benefit from battery improvement more than performance improvement.
One more thing...
You did interesting thing but...
4.4 Android is optimised whole lot better than 4.2.2 and you'll get better results when Sony release 4.4 for Z1.
So, if you now think they are similar devices - you can be sure that Z1 powered by KitKat will be faster and smoother than Nexus.
That's all theoretically for now but I'm 100% sure Z1 will become even better device on 4.4...
Sent from my Z1
ahomad said:
I have just got my Nexus 5 few hours ago, and I thought I would give a quick comparison between the Nexus 5 and the Xperia Z1 while waiting for more in depth comparisons from tech sites. I will keep it short and informative.
Look, Feel and size
The Nexus is alot lighter and smaller but the Z1 is more premium. This doesn't mean that the Nexus looks cheap. the Nexus is very good and the Z1 is excellent in the feel but the Nexus is better when looking at the size or weight.
Performance
Benchmarks
I know it means nothing bla bla bla, but people still wants to see them
antutu benchmark X nexus ~26000, Z1 ~35000
quadrant nexus ~8700, Z1 ~21000
sunspider nexus 745ms, Z1 694ms
I am not sure why the nexus 5 scored less (consideribly less for antutu and quadrant) but I think it has to do with ROM stability as the nexus 5 was turned on for the first time few hours ago.
Real life
just done few tests on opening various websites and apps. the Nexus was milliseconds faster on opening almost all websites except one or two where both phones were as fast. However, opening apps were of the same speed for both phones. (keep in mind that the Z1 has alot going in the background while the nexus was clean)
Screen
I tried viewing various photos and videos but couldn't really say which is better. Some photos were better on the Nexus while other were better on the Z1.
the viewing angle were significantly better in the Nexus, but not perfect though.
The brightness is so much better on the Nexus 5. 100% in the Z1 = 40% in the Nexus 5. I am not sure if this because of the recent update which brought the brightness down for the Z1. Anyway, this is not big issue for me, I have my Z1 at 25% all of the time. But again this would probably mean better viewing in sunlight for the Nexus.
Camera
This is quite hard, I do need some more time to say which is better. But initially, the Nexus has better low light image (the images are softer which has advantage of less noise and disadvantage of less details) but the colors are more accurate in the nexus as well. in good light conditions, the Z1 is better in every way.
Speaker
tried playing various sounds in youtube and the Z1 is Alot louder and of better quality than the Nexus.
Battery
I didn't have time to test the battery life of the nexus of course. However, during testing the previous things, the Z1 dropped ~%25 while the Nexus dropped ~%40. Again, I know that the battery tends to get better after couple of charges but the Z1 had lots of apps installed and lots working in the background while the Nexus was clean. Additionally, the Nexus was in airplane mode while the Z1 had the radio working. all in all, I would say the Z1 battery would be better as expected by the battery size and hopefully it will get better after getting 4.4
if anyone wants me to test anything else, please let me know as I will probably be sending this phone tomorrow as I don't see it significantly better in anyway compared to my Z1 or SGS4. And the 4.4 update doesn't seem to add much (the Z1 doesn't lack anything compared to the nexus 5) 4.3 and 4.4 mostly added performance improvements which won't really benefit us (Z1 users). The Z1 is already powerful enough and I didn't see it lag or stutter not even once. and I couldn't see any differences between the Z1 and Nexus 5 overall performance. 4.4 will benefit low end and mid range phones more than high end ones. We might benefit from battery improvement more than performance improvement.
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Thanks for the review/... It seemed to confirm quite a few things about it... BTW, are you in the UK? I'm willing to buy it off you
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One more thing...
You did interesting thing but...
4.4 Android is optimised whole lot better than 4.2.2 and you'll get better results when Sony release 4.4 for Z1.
So, if you now think they are similar devices - you can be sure that Z1 powered by KitKat will be faster and smoother than Nexus.
That's all theoretically for now but I'm 100% sure Z1 will become even better device on 4.4...
Sent from my Z1
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I totally agree with you Z1 runs 4.2 while Nexus runs 4.4 and both are using the same chipset. So there is advatage for the nexus but the Z1 performs on the same level.
I do agree that the Z1 will get faster with 4.4 but I am not sure about smoother because it is already smooth to the highest level, I am not sure if it can get any smoother. in the past we used to look for performance boost from the hardware and the software sides to get smoother phone. But now we won't notice any improvement to the smoothness. what we will get from better software or hardware is just faster loading time of apps, websites, movies ... etc. But still your point is valid +1
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Thanks for the review/... It seemed to confirm quite a few things about it... BTW, are you in the UK? I'm willing to buy it off you
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you are more than welcome. I am in the UK, and ordered two nexus 5 and willing to sell both unopened
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you are more than welcome. I am in the UK, and ordered two nexus 5 and willing to sell both unopened
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What colour and size? I just need 1 and looking for 32GB one...
ahomad said:
The brightness is so much better on the Nexus 5. 100% in the Z1 = 40% in the Nexus 5. I am not sure if this because of the recent update which brought the brightness down for the Z1. Anyway, this is not big issue for me, I have my Z1 at 25% all of the time. But again this would probably mean better viewing in sunlight for the Nexus.
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Did you untick adapt lighting condition in the settings on the Z1? makes a big difference...
Thanks for review, Xperia z1 is a really good device
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Did you untick adapt lighting condition in the settings on the Z1? makes a big difference...
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Thanks for the tip. I always use auto brightness (forgot to turn it off). Now the brightness is almost equal and will the update the original topic
Sean473 said:
What colour and size? I just need 1 and looking for 32GB one...
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I have 16 and 32gb black ones
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Thanks for the tip. I always use auto brightness (forgot to turn it off). Now the brightness is almost equal and will the update the original topic
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Thanks! Got me worried a little if the difference was that huge lol
Thanks for testing!
Great to see that the Z1 is still the fastest Snapdragon 800 phone around (and yes: I am one of those benchmark lovers ).
The performance difference in Antutu really is impressive though, and that's although the Z1 has a slightly lower maximum clock than the Nexus (2,15 vs 2,3 GHz). It is probably for the same reason as with the LG G2: Thermal management.
Sony allows for the Z1 to run quite hot and the phone is bigger and does better at dissipating the heat, therefore the CPU is not clocked down during benchmarks.
You could try placing both phones in your refrigerator and repeat the Antutu test just for the fun if it, scores should be up by some 100 points
That was the case with the Nexus 4 too, due to thermal management it scored lower than the Z despite having the same hardware.
Thanks for the nice review btw.
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I have putted 64Gb SDcard in my Z1 - now everything is fine , also damn huge Akku! I think Z1 is best choise for snapdragon 800 atm imho
Z1 is with your last update? I ask because the camera has received some improvements.
As for me I didn't even considered getting nexus 5. No sdcard slot is a huge deal-braker for me...
Imagine that you want to watch full hd video on your mobile. Thats 11GB, where am I going to put my music in the end?
Its even worse than no led in XZU.
Another thing is that if it wouldnt come out for my ISP in Poland till 27'th then I just wouldn't be able to get it.
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I purchased the Nexus 5 as well. If it somehow trumps the Z1 then I'll just give this phone to my mom, if not: she'll get the N5 as intended
When it came down to it, it was either the Galaxy Note 3, Z1, or the N5. The GN3 suffered from touchwiz and the N5 is still up for debate since I have yet to really use it (used it for a bit when a Google rep came into my best buy store) but I think the Z1 is definitely the way to go. I just can't imagine myself ever using something that doesn't feel as solid as the Z1 in the future. I'm excited to see what Sony does with Kit Kat (hopefully we get it!) But till then, it's a bit pointless to compare the two phones IMO. One is running superior hardware but inferior software (not that 4.2.2 sucks or anything) while the other is running superior software with average hardware (save for the processor).
Both phones are amazing at the end of the day in their own right. But I'm willing to bet that we'll all see the same things said about them when these two phones are compared: people will rave about kit kat and how cheap the N5 is and will complain about viewing angles and price for the Z1.
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I'm really torn between the N5 and the Z1 at the moment... pretty much narrowed it down to those two, since I don't want any Touchwiz/LG crapware on my phone (2 years with an SGS2 is enough). Number one priority is battery life for me, and I thought the Z1 would be great since it had the large 3000 mAh battery, but from what I read that's not really the case. On the other hand my girlfriend's N4 actually has a very decent battery life, despite her using facebook and stuff extensively, so maybe the N5 is actually in a way equal to the Z1. And then of course I don't know when/if Sony releases updates, and do they bring all the 4.4 software goodness?
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Camera
This is quite hard, I do need some more time to say which is better. But initially, the Nexus has better low light image (the images are softer which has advantage of less noise and disadvantage of less details) but the colors are more accurate in the nexus as well. in good light conditions, the Z1 is better in every way.
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Z1 is F2.0 and N5 is F2.4. That's a half stop difference. So Z1 has a 50% bigger aperture size than the N5.
Thus Z1 will get away with shots with 50% faster shutter speed so action shots as well as better low light pics will go to the Z.
You can zoom to about 1.8x with Z1
N5 only has a 2 axis OIS which isn't all that great. Digital stabilisation can beat a 2 axis OIS.
Check this photo comparison between 5s & N5. (scroll down a bit till you see the starbucks coffee) Now check the lobby shot. At first glance the N5 looks better, but zoom into the garden behind and you can see the 5s doing a better job there.
Al this is not to say you cannot get good shots with the N5 or any other camera for that matter.. You can and its a definite improvement over the N4.
OfficerTux said:
Thanks for testing!
Great to see that the Z1 is still the fastest Snapdragon 800 phone around (and yes: I am one of those benchmark lovers ).
The performance difference in Antutu really is impressive though, and that's although the Z1 has a slightly lower maximum clock than the Nexus (2,15 vs 2,3 GHz). It is probably for the same reason as with the LG G2: Thermal management.
Sony allows for the Z1 to run quite hot and the phone is bigger and does better at dissipating the heat, therefore the CPU is not clocked down during benchmarks.
You could try placing both phones in your refrigerator and repeat the Antutu test just for the fun if it, scores should be up by some 100 points
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Jiyeon90 said:
That was the case with the Nexus 4 too, due to thermal management it scored lower than the Z despite having the same hardware.
Thanks for the nice review btw.
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I repeated antutu test on the Nexus 5 today morning while it is cold (left it next to the window where it is so cold here in the UK) and it managed to get higher score ~29500, but still no where near the Z1. I should mention that the nexus 5 got warmer than the Z1 during yesterday and todays tests (although the nexus was colder when I started doing antutu test today as I was using the Z1 to check e-mails and other things before reading you comment and decided to repeat antutu test on both devices).
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Hey Guyes
i'm Buying a smartphone next week and really so confused i don't wanna buy a phone then regret , i decided to choose between this two great phones Galaxt N3 and Xperia Z1 let me tell you what i need the phone for :
1- Social* * * *
2- Capturing photos* * * * *
3- Music* * *
4- Gaming* *
5- Browsing (in neccessary) *
"*" in terms of importance
is there a big difference in photo quality between two devices especially in natural photos and night modes ?
the big size of Note 3 is't a comfortable with ordinary using ?
i don't want a fighting replays between two owners i need a specific reasons to choose a one
please help me in choosing and thank you for reading my thread
Regards
jakkahf said:
Hey Guyes
i'm Buying a smartphone next week and really so confused i don't wanna buy a phone then regret , i decided to choose between this two great phones Galaxt N3 and Xperia Z1 let me tell you what i need the phone for :
1- Social* * * *
2- Capturing photos* * * * *
3- Music* * *
4- Gaming* *
5- Browsing (in neccessary) *
"*" in terms of importance
is there a big difference in photo quality between two devices especially in natural photos and night modes ?
the big size of Note 3 is't a comfortable with ordinary using ?
i don't want a fighting replays between two owners i need a specific reasons to choose a one
please help me in choosing and thank you for reading my thread
Regards
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seeing that you rate capturing photos 5 stars... my n3 camera sucks big time. i'm comparing my experience with iphone 4s which i used for 2years, can't speak for xperia. n3 camera is worse in terms of speed and capturing clear and sharp photos in most situations. that's very disappointing considering 4s was 2 years old. sure n3 has impressive specs (4k video no less) but all the specs are useless if it cannot take beautiful photos in most "normal" situations. normal as in day to day casual photos where you don't have to freeze in order to take decent photos.
Well here's my experience with the note 3 and the reason it is the better choice:
1. I think both are equal in the social side cause I don't think anything would change, well maybe that doing Snapchats with the s pen is a lot better hahaha.
2. I don't know about the user above but the quality of my photos is quite superior to everything I've seen our there by FAR, crisp, clear and perfect for me (my previous phones have been the GSIII, GSII, iPhone 4, and other older android phones and this camera is the best). The comparison in GSMArena proves that the Note 3 is better than the Z1 even with the Z1 being 20.1MP.
3. Galaxy note has almost perfect audio output through the jack but I have to admit the speaker sounds loud but kinda weak.
4. More screen real state makes it more suitable for gaming and but have the same processor so the advantage goes to the Note's screen.
5. Same as before, more real state equals better browsing the web.
And we'll the size at starts feels huge, HUGE but after a week my perception sees it as the perfect size as it fits in all my jeans and bags and the screen is marvelous, crisp and bright. Also I've heard that the Z1 although feels more premium it is harder to hold even if it is smaller
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2. Sony a has a dedicated camera button, water proof up to 5 feet of water, better sensor, It takes better than the note 3 and will get better with firmware update. You should check out phone arena camera phone shootout. The z1 is second to the Nokia 1020.
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copualt3 said:
2. Sony a has a dedicated camera button, water proof up to 5 feet of water, better sensor, It takes better than the note 3 and will get better with firmware update. You should check out phone arena camera phone shootout. The z1 is second to the Nokia 1020.
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No flash, then again Flash is for newbies. I have never used a camera flash before, so moot. lol
copualt3 said:
2. Sony a has a dedicated camera button, water proof up to 5 feet of water, better sensor, It takes better than the note 3 and will get better with firmware update. You should check out phone arena camera phone shootout. The z1 is second to the Nokia 1020.
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I believe more in GSMArena as it has proven to not be so biased as PhoneArena and the note 3 got in second place and you can see all the picture comparisons to see it's truly better
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The much better viewing angles/sunlight visibility deterred me from the Sony. That's one thing Samsung does well.
*GalaxyDev* said:
I believe more in GSMArena as it has proven to not be so biased as PhoneArena and the note 3 got in second place and you can see all the picture comparisons to see it's truly better
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Gsm arena indeed rate the z1 behind the note 3 initially, but the recent z1 update has shown the potent z1 hardware capabilities starting to shine.
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*GalaxyDev* said:
Well here's my experience with the note 3 and the reason it is the better choice:
1. I think both are equal in the social side cause I don't think anything would change, well maybe that doing Snapchats with the s pen is a lot better hahaha.
2. I don't know about the user above but the quality of my photos is quite superior to everything I've seen our there by FAR, crisp, clear and perfect for me (my previous phones have been the GSIII, GSII, iPhone 4, and other older android phones and this camera is the best). The comparison in GSMArena proves that the Note 3 is better than the Z1 even with the Z1 being 20.1MP.
3. Galaxy note has almost perfect audio output through the jack but I have to admit the speaker sounds loud but kinda weak.
4. More screen real state makes it more suitable for gaming and but have the same processor so the advantage goes to the Note's screen.
5. Same as before, more real state equals better browsing the web.
And we'll the size at starts feels huge, HUGE but after a week my perception sees it as the perfect size as it fits in all my jeans and bags and the screen is marvelous, crisp and bright. Also I've heard that the Z1 although feels more premium it is harder to hold even if it is smaller
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i agree with you in browsing gaming cause note 3 got bigger screen size , but in Music i think Xperia Z1 is better you can check the music player of sony it's so cool and the speakers are so clear , in Camera they aren't same check this website (dxomark) sorry can't post a link cause i'm new here , also you can take the best night shots by Xperia Z1 Camera
I don't believe in any of these websites GSMArena , Cnet , etc.... , cause they don't give the Sony devices what they are really worth i think Samsung giving some money to these websites lol
i think i'm going for Xperia Z1 and i wish Sony UI gets update to new Android KitKat SOON !
thank you for replaying
if you view the ph in outdoors often...nothing comes close to note3...the screen is just unbelievable..
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jakkahf said:
Hey Guyes
i'm Buying a smartphone next week and really so confused i don't wanna buy a phone then regret , i decided to choose between this two great phones Galaxt N3 and Xperia Z1 let me tell you what i need the phone for :
1- Social* * * *
2- Capturing photos* * * * *
3- Music* * *
4- Gaming* *
5- Browsing (in neccessary) *
"*" in terms of importance
is there a big difference in photo quality between two devices especially in natural photos and night modes ?
the big size of Note 3 is't a comfortable with ordinary using ?
i don't want a fighting replays between two owners i need a specific reasons to choose a one
please help me in choosing and thank you for reading my thread
Regards
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Hi
TBH, The Camera on the Note 3 is not the Best. It is OK. It does it's job. But compare it to the iPhone or the Sony Xperia, there is a difference. I did hear a lot of the time that there is a preference difference. (Some likes the N3, Others the Sony/iPhones).
Personally, I use my DSLR for some memorable shots and other artsy shots, but in those moments or other situations where it is awkward to bring out my large DSLR camera I would use my Phone camera.
Everywhere else, N3 excels.
In a real time user experience I can tell you that the battery life will not disappoint you. (2 days of batt life with little effort, but a whole day of usage is the norm)
The phone (Personally) does not heat up unless I game in 3D
Gaming is certainly a blast
The screen is very crisp and clear / colorful
USB 3.0 does show improvement under normal 3.0 operations
The specs live up to its name in real time usage.
But if Photo is a highly regarded feature, I would look at the LG G2 or the Sony Xperia or the Nokia 1020
All phones have their ups and downs :victory:
I find my Note 3 very confortable for any use
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1sagain said:
Hi
TBH, The Camera on the Note 3 is not the Best. It is OK. It does it's job. But compare it to the iPhone or the Sony Xperia, there is a difference. I did hear a lot of the time that there is a preference difference. (Some likes the N3, Others the Sony/iPhones).
Personally, I use my DSLR for some memorable shots and other artsy shots, but in those moments or other situations where it is awkward to bring out my large DSLR camera I would use my Phone camera.
Everywhere else, N3 excels.
In a real time user experience I can tell you that the battery life will not disappoint you. (2 days of batt life with little effort, but a whole day of usage is the norm)
The phone (Personally) does not heat up unless I game in 3D
Gaming is certainly a blast
The screen is very crisp and clear / colorful
USB 3.0 does show improvement under normal 3.0 operations
The specs live up to its name in real time usage.
But if Photo is a highly regarded feature, I would look at the LG G2 or the Sony Xperia or the Nokia 1020
All phones have their ups and downs :victory:
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let me tell you something i live in Turkey and there's alot of beautiful views here so i'm gonna use camera all time i know it's a phone not a camera but Xperia Z1 Cam takes a beautiful shoots especially in night that's a point
if you gonna tell me about the battery well Xperia Z1 battery is better i know it's less than Note 3 battery but if u have alook in the display ( bigger screen , Super AM-OLED ) that's all take alot from the Battery even if it's 3200 , also Xperia Z1 have a mode which apply you to use the phone for more than 7 days so i guess Xperia Z1 wins
both screens are great also i don't use USB 3.0 i Prefer WiFi Connections so it won't be useful for me but it's a Great improvement
at the end both devices have a great performance and great touches so i guess it's going to the buyer opinion
Thank you for this beautiful replaying
jakkahf said:
let me tell you something i live in Turkey and there's alot of beautiful views here so i'm gonna use camera all time i know it's a phone not a camera but Xperia Z1 Cam takes a beautiful shoots especially in night that's a point
if you gonna tell me about the battery well Xperia Z1 battery is better i know it's less than Note 3 battery but if u have alook in the display ( bigger screen , Super AM-OLED ) that's all take alot from the Battery even if it's 3200 , also Xperia Z1 have a mode which apply you to use the phone for more than 7 days so i guess Xperia Z1 wins
both screens are great also i don't use USB 3.0 i Prefer WiFi Connections so it won't be useful for me but it's a Great improvement
at the end both devices have a great performance and great touches so i guess it's going to the buyer opinion
Thank you for this beautiful replaying
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If you are going for the sony xperia z1 after weighing your options then go for it friend
I hope what ever you choose in the end it will meet your needs! Good luck!
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Hello i am new here.. I had lg g3 and i sold it and bought z2.. I found that g3's camera and battery was much better than z2.. I dunno if i missed something or the g3 much better than z2
In your opinion is the lg g3 better or the z2 is a beetrr smartphone all around?
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Battery on z2 should outperform the G3, try manual settings for camera as in less than optimum conditions auto settings struggle.
I went from g3 to z2 as well and thought the same thing, g3 takes great shots when there's a lot of sunlight and it tends to sharpen the pictures more. The z2 is more subtle in the picture that it takes.
Video on the other hand, comparing videos from both phones, the z2 is better.
Overall performance, z2 is better again. There's strange intermittent lag on the g3, you don't get any lag on the z2. The way I see it, the z2 is basically a Nexus 5 with an awesome camera
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Overall performance, z2 is better again. There's strange intermittent lag on the g3, you don't get any lag on the z2. The way I see it, the z2 is basically a Nexus 5 with an awesome camera
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And an SD slot, & decent battery.
Sorry i have both z2 is all round better device lg has loads of lag
Hi guys I need to make a decision to sell the z3+ and get the z5, so basically need some camera/ heat comparisons
If you have any samples please post. thanks
Hi mate
I had the Z3 for a good few months before binning it and getting the Z5.
The camera is higher quality in my opinion but the difference isn't massive unless you're looking at a direct comparison. Heat wise the Z5 gets hotter near the NFC logo under load but is cool to the touch most of the time. I find the Z3 got boiling when charging (I had the official Qi charging case) whereas the z5 stays nice and cool.
If heat is a concern, i'd look to get your hands on one before making the 2 year commitment (or whatever your contract/plan is)
Sorry I don't have any comparison shots to hand.
Carl
Actually I didn't like the camera, and definitely there is a heating problem with this phone :/
btw, do I need to buy a rapid/fast charger or the one included in the box does the job?
Z3+ Heat
Naffets said:
Hi mate
I had the Z3 for a good few months before binning it and getting the Z5.
The camera is higher quality in my opinion but the difference isn't massive unless you're looking at a direct comparison. Heat wise the Z5 gets hotter near the NFC logo under load but is cool to the touch most of the time. I find the Z3 got boiling when charging (I had the official Qi charging case) whereas the z5 stays nice and cool.
If heat is a concern, i'd look to get your hands on one before making the 2 year commitment (or whatever your contract/plan is)
Sorry I don't have any comparison shots to hand.
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Got the z3+ had some heat issues, While charging its just cool, only thing it closes soon while slow motion and AR Effects due to heat. thats the issue. So basically it has the same issue as Z3+?
If so i might stick with the z3+
I will set up my Z5 shortly. I also have a Z3+ that I'm keeping & will try to do a comparison for you after using Z5 for 2/3 days. But few things I can tell you right now
- Z3+ is camera is actually significantly better than Z3/Z2 in auto mode & yes, Z5 camera is also significantly better than Z3+ in auto, but I'll post some pictures for you to decide
- Z3+ is excellent in performance tasks like heavy browsing/multitasking. My S6 simply can't keep up with that. It's quite sad considering the hype it generated. I also regularly get 1 extra hour of SoT from Z3+ compared to S6 (& yes, it's still less than Z2's but we're talking 2015, lollipop, & octa core here). I do browse, stream, & play games a lot, but I don't watch movies on phones.
- Z5 may have better 'sustained' performance due to that extra cooling pipe, which should also answer your heat/AR mask question. I'll follow up on that.
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I will set up my Z5 shortly. I also have a Z3+ that I'm keeping & will try to do a comparison for you after using Z5 for 2/3 days. But few things I can tell you right now
- Z3+ is camera is actually significantly better than Z3/Z2 in auto mode & yes, Z5 camera is also significantly better than Z3+ in auto, but I'll post some pictures for you to decide
- Z3+ is excellent in performance tasks like heavy browsing/multitasking. My S6 simply can't keep up with that. It's quite sad considering the hype it generated. I also regularly get 1 extra hour of SoT from Z3+ compared to S6 (& yes, it's still less than Z2's but we're talking 2015, lollipop, & octa core here). I do browse, stream, & play games a lot, but I don't watch movies on phones.
- Z5 may have better 'sustained' performance due to that extra cooling pipe, which should also answer your heat/AR mask question. I'll follow up on that.
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awaiting your return.lol
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awaiting your return.lol
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Good to see you brother! Feel free to ask any questions
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Heat-wise. Z5 runs at least 5/6 degree C lower than Z3+ performing the same set of heavy tasks (I did 6/7 consecutive Antutu runs with identical starting temp on both). Dual heat pipe FTW - no kidding.
If Z3+ heating is bothering you too much, you should consider Z5. They both have the same SoC & things are not going to run any faster on Z5 (when both are cold/warm), but you'll see a big difference only if you're pushing Z3+ towards its throttling range (which you are as it sounds like). Dual heat pipe aside, Z5 should have some sw optimizations that Z3+ will probably get shortly. It should definitely make a difference.
You should also check out that 'throttle fix' thread on Z3+ forum. It makes a big difference if you go with @nfs2010 's fix. That was our second heat pipe lol If you don't like the fix, get Z5. If you do, just wait for Z6/7!
I'll post some pictures later on.
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thanks man.actually I'm most concerned with overall speed as I have no lag what so ever on my Z2 and Z3 so I would hate it on Z5.any comments on general speed and multitasking?
also if u could do some screen comparisons that would be awesome.or comment on it.hows reflectivity?low I hope
@josephnero I've attached some pictures showing Z5 , Z3+, Z2 (left to right, also image enhancement off & default WB on all) screens in action. Z5 screen can get dimmer than the other two - I think. So for normal usage, the slider needs to be set to a higher position to get the same brightness output. Z3+ is the brightest one but I never had to use anywhere near its maximum brightness, so Z5 is totally fine. I'll post some pictures later on to compare sunlight legibility. But so far I haven't had any issue using it outdoor. You probably have to use a screen protector to avoid fingerprints.
Multitasking is great - no hiccups. It can definitely handle heavy tasks better than my Z2. Only occasional lag I have seen is on the MT window while trying to close apps. Surprisingly, it happens more often when there's only one app lol Z3+ had some similar minor bugs that they've fixed with fw updates quite fast. Overall, Z3+ feels a bit faster - UI & camera wise , but it got three updates in four months. So keep an eye on the updates if that concerns you. Z2 & Z3 both are amazing phones, so the bar is quite high - I understand
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Thanks man.Awesome job.Z5 seems a bit more reddish but we all know z3 has a cold tint.Also I remember at IFA the sony rep said new camera UI update is coming in november.hopefully it will further Improve the awesome cam
Thanks mate, hope i will stick with the z3+ for now. I don't mind it heats up as long as it does not close the awesome AR Effects/mask
Anyhow thanks for giving the comparisons
There are my samples from Z3+ and Z5.
Z3+
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8aVAm1KMRG-RWh4QS1zcjdXMms/view?usp=sharing (Inteligent Auto)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8aVAm1KMRG-dVFzcHprN0NpV0E/view?usp=sharing (Inteligent Auto)
Z5
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8aVAm1KMRG-ZVFzZ3p2U2Q1ZWM/view?usp=sharing (Inteligent Auto)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8aVAm1KMRG-NUFBTTZwM2x5TTg/view?usp=sharing (Inteligent Auto)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8aVAm1KMRG-alB4MTVVTkJmd3c/view?usp=sharing (Inteligent Auto 23 MPX)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8aVAm1KMRG-dG9wYXlOcnF2ajA/view?usp=sharing (Inteligent Auto 23 MPX)
I am hoping that the new camera UI update in December will improve camera.
About heat. Z5 heats less than Z3+. Only when I am playing heavy games and using AR Effects and AR Mask Z5 heats quicker and gets hot(it doesn't close those camera apps like on Z3+) but in daily use it is little warm. And Z5 works better than Z3+ (although Z3+ works good after 2 updates) but I think Sony will fix that on Z3+ with Android 6. Battery on Z5 is almost the same as on Z3+; slightly better.
Those are main answers on your questions.
Guys, I've been bought Z5c to replace my Z1c(I also own a S6). Still very busying to test the z5c now, if you guys got any questions regarding Z5c feel free to ask me in this thread(if there are still any Z1c survivor here...).
My first impression vs. Z1c(and vs. S6):
1. Camera way faster and fixed the annoyed focus issue. The camera launch speed slightly slower than S6 but close to it. The focus speed at low light S6 a bit faster but Z5c already done a good job like 3x better and blow out Z1c completely.
2. Camera details isn't much better than Z1c only little improvements there, yet S6 got better details. Color, WB, AE is accurate than Z1c and S6, however sometimes you'll think that it is just too accurate and not as eye caught as Z1c/S6(they do more tweaking while Z5c towards to neutral side, the overall style still Sony and similar to Z1c).
3. Speaking to camera shutter lag and saving speed. S6 got instant speed in this area, Z5c slower but 3x faster than Z1c again.
4. Sceen is much better than Z1c like next generation with noticeably better color, WB, brightness, viewing angle and more clear. No doubt the 5.1" 2K on S6 is sharper, Z5c is just 720p but an exceptional quality one for this kind of resolution.
5. Support double tap to wake in stock rom. S6 needs root or custom kernel/rom to get this function.
6. Fingerprint recognition looks more sensitive than my S6, no worse than ip6/6s I think.
7. s810 on 720P is extremely fast, the smoothness is around the same with Exynos 7420 on S6. Kicks ass though the s800 on Z1c is already very fast but Z5c performs even much more responsively, no slower than S6 in my opinions. What the drawback on s810 it gets hot during heavy gaming or video recording but manged to an okay level for any s808/s810. If you want to get a cool device, I'm afraid Exynos 7420 is the only choice in 2015 until s820 comes out.
8. Battery life is identical to Z1c but since I've only got it for 3 days, I can't tell much at right now, it takes time to know. But it seems no worse than Z1c of 4.4.4/5.1.1, 2700mAh feed the s810 well. Expected to out perform Z1c when Android 6.0 arrive.
9. Solid build quality but I think S6 and Z1c more premium with metal bumper. Z5c goes to the fashion design, more young and motivative, not the same direction on S6/Z1c.
10. Speaker is superior. To be honest, S6 speaker also sounds out loudly but Z5c got very stereo feeling.
11. MicroSD supports up to 200GB, IPX67 rated, glove mode is still there. Finally no flag usb port with quick charge 2.0. USB-OTG is supported but you have to click USB connectivity to ask it to detect. S6 got an IR blaster which is also useful if you got many electronic devices at home or like to remote the TV in restaurant.
12. Internal storage speed lots quicker than Z1c though can't beat the more advanced emmc used on S6.
13. The front LED is as good as Z1c/S6, that LED notification is bad on Z3c.
14. After rebooting both Z5c/S6 got exactly 1GB free memory on stock rom(currently both of my Z5c/S6 running on stock rom without root) but I'll probably very soon to unlock and root Z5c bcoz I want to try to limit cpu speed to reduce heat.
My Z5c is running on latest firmware(second OTA) and it's been improved much on speed, those reviews on net are dated now. Sony said new camera update will come in this month so we'll see.
My colleague has just bought Z5c and I've got Z1c so I compared these 2 phones
and I've got the same opinion as you - I can confirm each point of the post above, especially:
- screen is better and you know this on the first look
- speakers are better and the stereo feeling is easy to hear
- camera focus is faster
- it's hotter, not only on heavy use
One thing I can add is the look of Z5c: it looks fatter, more bulky - mainly because of bezel shape - but it feels fine when you take the phone in your hand
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My colleague has just bought Z5c and I've got Z1c so I compared these 2 phones
and I've got the same opinion as you - I can confirm each point of the post above, especially:
- screen is better and you know this on the first look
- speakers are better and the stereo feeling is easy to hear
- camera focus is faster
- it's hotter, not only on heavy use
One thing I can add is the look of Z5c: it looks fatter, more bulky - mainly because of bezel shape - but it feels fine when you take the phone in your hand
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The size is identical to Z3c but the bezel shape looks like an older WP phone similar to Lumia 920. Especially if you get a yellow model.
Turn on Stamina mode will help but I think the ultimate solution is to lower the max cpu speed plus switch to other governor(waiting custom kernel). It's sure getting hotter but that's happened on every other s808/s810 phone in this year. Exynos 7420 is the only one suffering from this issue, it also warmer than s800/801.
Screen and camera has the major goodness. This monitor got very accurate color and decent viewing angle, both made it finally like a true IPS this time. The speaker is real very stereo. Camera focus at low light S6 still faster and better, I've done some extensive testing about this yesterday but Z5c focus easy beat all older xperia phones.
Other than the heat problem(can be solved after root by reduce cpu I think) and no OIS. I'll say every part got juice and definitely an upgrade for any small phone lover.
I'll post some indoor and night shot I've done last night of Z5c and S6 soon, including FHD/4K. I'll offer all in original size, please check this thread again.
As I'm owning an Xperia Z5, since a year and a half, I still find that the Z was the most popular and really well supported device, so many ROMs, kernels, mods, themes and just everything, even Sony supported it for a long period of time, but the biggest part was the people who spent hours to make the best for it, it's such a legend, made by Sony, and the people continued to make it better.
It's a bit sad that I am pretty disappointed with my Z5, it didn't make me happy like the Z, and from the development side? It's nothing compared to what the Z has gotten..
Thanks for reading and have a great day!
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As I'm owning an Xperia Z5, since a year and a half, I still find that the Z was the most popular and really well supported device, so many ROMs, kernels, mods, themes and just everything, even Sony supported it for a long period of time, but the biggest part was the people who spent hours to make the best for it, it's such a legend, made by Sony, and the people continued to make it better.
It's a bit sad that I am pretty disappointed with my Z5, it didn't make me happy like the Z, and from the development side? It's nothing compared to what the Z has gotten..
Thanks for reading and have a great day!
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I know, and I still using it for daily.
May I know details of every things that make you disappointed on your Z5? Because I have a plan to upgrade my device, either Z5c or the latest XZ1c.
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I know, and I still using it for daily.
May I know details of every things that make you disappointed on your Z5? Because I have a plan to upgrade my device, either Z5c or the latest XZ1c.
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The Z5 lacks a lot of development and support, if you don't care about that then it's not the only issue, the Snapdragon 810 literally sucks! A lot of heat (running at over 50°C all the time) and terrible performance for an octa core CPU, Especially in games, even some cheap Chinese phones performance better, however it's an improvement over the Z, just not that much of an improvement as I expected.
It's not the phone's fault, just the Snapdragon 810 chip, and it's not the only one.
However I highly recommend avoiding any device with a Snapdragon 810 CPU because of the heat, bad performance and battery draining (I barely get 3 hours of screen on time), and I also recommend getting the Xperia XZ Premium, it has a 4K screen and a bigger battery unlike the XZ1 line.
More about the Z5:
Screen: meh, it has a blueish tint that makes the whites aren't so white, the TFT screen on the Z was better except outdoors.
Camera: good but not great, especially indoors, pretty noisy, 4K recording isn't so wow and the 120fps slow motion is too dark and low quality IMO, But it does pretty well in good lighting conditions.
Speakers: not so good, but I was able to get them louder after installing a mod.
Software: the Android 7.1.1 is the last update that the device will probably get, the nougat was a failure on the Z5 and XZ though, so I'm still using marshmallow.
So it's a fine device at the end but if you can go for newer devices like the XZ Premium then you better do!
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The Z5 lacks a lot of development and support, if you don't care about that then it's not the only issue, the Snapdragon 810 literally sucks! A lot of heat (running at over 50°C all the time) and terrible performance for an octa core CPU, Especially in games, even some cheap Chinese phones performance better, however it's an improvement over the Z, just not that much of an improvement as I expected.
It's not the phone's fault, just the Snapdragon 810 chip, and it's not the only one.
However I highly recommend avoiding any device with a Snapdragon 810 CPU because of the heat, bad performance and battery draining (I barely get 3 hours of screen on time), and I also recommend getting the Xperia XZ Premium, it has a 4K screen and a bigger battery unlike the XZ1 line.
More about the Z5:
Screen: meh, it has a blueish tint that makes the whites aren't so white, the TFT screen on the Z was better except outdoors.
Camera: good but not great, especially indoors, pretty noisy, 4K recording isn't so wow and the 120fps slow motion is too dark and low quality IMO, But it does pretty well in good lighting conditions.
Speakers: not so good, but I was able to get them louder after installing a mod.
Software: the Android 7.1.1 is the last update that the device will probably get, the nougat was a failure on the Z5 and XZ though, so I'm still using marshmallow.
So it's a fine device at the end but if you can go for newer devices like the XZ Premium then you better do!
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I know about SD810 heating problem. It sucks, but till now, only Z5 family available in my country (so sad). XZ premium was great but I don't like a phone that has screen more than 5 inch. That's why I'm looking for XZ1c. 4K screen is not a big deal for me.
Thanks for sharing.
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I know about SD810 heating problem. It sucks, but till now, only Z5 family available in my country (so sad). XZ premium was great but I don't like a phone that has screen more than 5 inch. That's why I'm looking for XZ1c. 4K screen is not a big deal for me.
Thanks for sharing.
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I don't think the XZ1c would disappoint you either, it has nearly the same hardware as the XZP except for the screen and battery, and also, wait for them to come to your country, don't be in hurry.