Engadget Review is out:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/09/24/sony-xperia-z1-review/
looks like they have some nice words for the Z1.
I will get my Z1 sometime this week and we'll see how it turns out, but im quite optimistic :victory:.
The benchmarks of this review are wrong
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theres one problem with everyone regarding sony phones they never ever like them they always like the samsung iphones and htc
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The benchmarks of this review are wrong
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Just got mine, still 518 fw though
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theres one problem with everyone regarding sony phones they never ever like them they always like the samsung iphones and htc
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Yes you're right, but considering how engadget gives it's critics to other devices, I think it says allot that they are pretty pleased with the Z1
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They fail to point out that all the camera issues can be fixed with a software update!
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They fail to point out that all the camera issues can be fixed with a software update!
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a camera update isnt going to make the camera better than the lumia 1020. the problem with the engadget review is they compare it only to the 1020. 42 mp sensor vs 21 not really a fair comparison. No amount of software updates are gonna make them even.
Never the less i turned off x reality and have seen an improvement in battery life. Gotta thank this review for that
billybobjones said:
a camera update isnt going to make the camera better than the lumia 1020. the problem with the engadget review is they compare it only to the 1020. 42 mp sensor vs 21 not really a fair comparison. No amount of software updates are gonna make them even.
Never the less i turned off x reality and have seen an improvement in battery life. Gotta thank this review for that
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Software updates can address the Xperia Z1's current issues (noise, etc) and I never expected its camera to be on par or even exceed Illumina's 1020...
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Software updates can address the Xperia Z1's current issues (noise, etc) and I never expected its camera to be on par or even exceed Illumina's 1020...
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then you dont understand camera sensors and I would suggest you read more on what makes a camera good. Lumia 1020 has a better sensor and no matter how good the xperia z1 may be, it cant reach lumia 1020 level. If it by some miracle does, that means nokia should update their lumia software and it would beat the z1 again.
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then you dont understand camera sensors and I would suggest you read more on what makes a camera good. Lumia 1020 has a better sensor and no matter how good the xperia z1 may be, it cant reach lumia 1020 level. If it by some miracle does, that means nokia should update their lumia software and it would beat the z1 again.
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.. did you even bother to read the post you were responding to?
Anyways, considering the Z1 didn't ship with its final camera firmware it's been doing pretty well for itself so far. Very excited to see what improvements will come when the proper software is released.
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then you dont understand camera sensors and I would suggest you read more on what makes a camera good. Lumia 1020 has a better sensor and no matter how good the xperia z1 may be, it cant reach lumia 1020 level. If it by some miracle does, that means nokia should update their lumia software and it would beat the z1 again.
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If you actually read my post then you would know I accept that the Z1 can not match the 1020. Take the time to read instead of jumping to conclusions before you get to the end of the sentence.
And as far as my sensor understanding goes there are two types, CCD and CMOS. The Exmor happens to be a CMOS, CCD normally has less noise with CMOS having more noise, I also think that CMOS is MUCH more power efficient, CCD also captures more light. It's not much but its more than what the average consumer knows.
Anyway you got that from my initial post? Did I even say the Xperia Z1 has a camera even rivaling the 1020? My post was a sentence and you didn't get to the end.
So I read the review (I've been thinking about buying this phone, as I need a camera, and a new phone), and I noticed that Engadget said:
To explore this, we had to switch back to manual mode and set resolution to 20.7MP again. It's worth noting that this kills a bunch of camera options, such as HDR, scene selection and digital image stabilization -- but it was the only way to push the Z1's sensor to its limits.
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This made me sad. Does this mean that the phone won't take 20MP HDR photos?
Other than that, it seems to be a good phone.
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TheCraig said:
If you actually read my post then you would know I accept that the Z1 can not match the 1020. Take the time to read instead of jumping to conclusions before you get to the end of the sentence.
And as far as my sensor understanding goes there are two types, CCD and CMOS. The Exmor happens to be a CMOS, CCD normally has less noise with CMOS having more noise, I also think that CMOS is MUCH more power efficient, CCD also captures more light. It's not much but its more than what the average consumer knows.
Anyway you got that from my initial post? Did I even say the Xperia Z1 has a camera even rivaling the 1020? My post was a sentence and you didn't get to the end.
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Hey sorry just looking out from in the guy your debating with actually said he does not think that the z1 can keep up with the Nokia but hopes that a update can help with some noise issues and softness , not to beat the Nokia but to overall help with the IQ of the z1. Hope that helps. And software can help with image quality as in proper exposure and the right ISO and shutter speed settings when in auto. Its true that you can not help grain pattern because this is a sensor specific thing but the amount of grain or noise can be helped and the amount of processing e.g sharpening can also be helped with software.
Z1 has great specs they need to work on the software to help it shine.
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If you actually read my post then you would know I accept that the Z1 can not match the 1020. Take the time to read instead of jumping to conclusions before you get to the end of the sentence.
And as far as my sensor understanding goes there are two types, CCD and CMOS. The Exmor happens to be a CMOS, CCD normally has less noise with CMOS having more noise, I also think that CMOS is MUCH more power efficient, CCD also captures more light. It's not much but its more than what the average consumer knows.
Anyway you got that from my initial post? Did I even say the Xperia Z1 has a camera even rivaling the 1020? My post was a sentence and you didn't get to the end.
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I read through all the posts and no where did you state it would be better or even match the 1020 with a software update you just mentioned it needs a software update to get the best out of the Z1 camera.
I agree the camera should be way better than what it is and if it can produce a clean image with minimal noise AND fix that superior auto then that is all that matters imho.
There is a lot of potential in this phone and I hope Sony can really get the most out of it.
I think we can all agree that it isn't challenging the 1020 at the moment and isn't likely to do so. But yeah software updates to clear up the current issues should help a lot.
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I think we can all agree that it isn't challenging the 1020 at the moment and isn't likely to do so. But yeah software updates to clear up the current issues should help a lot.
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Took some proper photos outside today and detail was fine but for some reason lighting was a bit ****ed up... It came out a bit dark.. They really need to fix the camera firmware ASAP!
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Camera Really is good!
http://cdn.recombu.com/mobile/images/news/M19527/1378734152.jpg
http://cdn.recombu.com/mobile/images/news/M19527/1378734206.jpg
http://cdn.recombu.com/mobile/images/news/M19527/1378734309.jpg
http://cdn.recombu.com/mobile/images/news/M19527/1378734366.jpg
http://cdn.recombu.com/mobile/images/news/M19527/1378734396.jpg
and in gsmarena have some samples too
http://blog.gsmarena.com/sony-xperi...d-to-nokia-lumia-1020s-41mp-pureview-monster/
Nokia 1020
http://cdn.gsmarena.com/pics//13/09/xperia-z1-vs-nokia-lumia-1020/camera/gsmarena_001.jpg
Xperia Z1
http://cdn.gsmarena.com/pics//13/09/xperia-z1-vs-nokia-lumia-1020/camera/gsmarena_002.jpg
Nokia 1020
http://cdn.gsmarena.com/pics//13/09/xperia-z1-vs-nokia-lumia-1020/camera/gsmarena_005.jpg
Xperia Z1
http://cdn.gsmarena.com/pics//13/09/xperia-z1-vs-nokia-lumia-1020/camera/gsmarena_006.jpg
matheus_sc said:
Camera Really is good!
and in gsmarena have some samples too
http://blog.gsmarena.com/sony-xperi...d-to-nokia-lumia-1020s-41mp-pureview-monster/
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Link for the pics??? how are we supposed to evaluate 250x250 pixel photos
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recombu.com
guess I didn't see the writing on the wall...but a link would have been easier
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Link for the pics??? how are we supposed to evaluate 250x250 pixel photos
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guess I didn't see the writing on the wall...but a link would have been easier
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in gsm have full quality pics, i pick the links and add in topic.
It seems much better than xperia z!!!
Not impressive. Not much better than other phones with smaller sensors. Others even have OIS which the Z1 lacks. It can only shoot in 8MP in 16:9 and with the default superior auto mode. The resolution is no better than other cameras, nor the pixel size. It always amazes me how Sony can screw up using their own sensors, like they did with the Xperia Z, when other companies can use their Exmor RS sensors and do wonders, like Samsung and Apple. These images aren't convincing me of the ONE SONY. The Cybershot division is probably hanging up their phones and turning up their noses in disgust whenever the smartphone division tries to collaborate. Old traditions and rivalries die hard. They sure aren't gonna divulge any secrets for such petty things as CELLPHONE cameras.
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Not impressive. Not much better than other phones with smaller sensors. Others even have OIS which the Z1 lacks. It can only shoot in 8MP in 16:9 and with the default superior auto mode. The resolution is no better than other cameras, nor the pixel size. It always amazes me how Sony can screw up using their own sensors, like they did with the Xperia Z, when other companies can use their Exmor RS sensors and do wonders, like Samsung and Apple. These images aren't convincing me of the ONE SONY. The Cybershot division is probably hanging up their phones and turning up their noses in disgust whenever the smartphone division tries to collaborate. Old traditions and rivalries die hard. They sure aren't gonna divulge any secrets for such petty things as CELLPHONE cameras.
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It's the 3rd post made by you in which you act like a baby. I ask again, what is your problem? Don't post at all if the only thing you have to say is that sony screwed everyone and everything. You repeat it over and over again in every reply I have seen in Z1 part of the forum.
Get out of here if you can't act like a normal human being!
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Not impressive. Not much better than other phones with smaller sensors. Others even have OIS which the Z1 lacks. It can only shoot in 8MP in 16:9 and with the default superior auto mode. The resolution is no better than other cameras, nor the pixel size. It always amazes me how Sony can screw up using their own sensors, like they did with the Xperia Z, when other companies can use their Exmor RS sensors and do wonders, like Samsung and Apple. These images aren't convincing me of the ONE SONY. The Cybershot division is probably hanging up their phones and turning up their noses in disgust whenever the smartphone division tries to collaborate. Old traditions and rivalries die hard. They sure aren't gonna divulge any secrets for such petty things as CELLPHONE cameras.
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Sony doesn't have OIS because it doesn't need them, they already have Steadyshot which is a hardware + software stabilizer...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SteadyShot
". It uses motion sensors to detect the user's movements. SteadyShot then compensates for some of these movements, in some versions by moving the optics and in some versions by moving the image sensor in an opposite direction to the movement."
only time will tell who is better...
Go buy your G2 or HTC, we will buy the Z1, and lets see who will be the first to sell his phone
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Sony doesn't have OIS because it doesn't need them, they already have Steadyshot which is a hardware + software stabilizer...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SteadyShot
". It uses motion sensors to detect the user's movements. SteadyShot then compensates for some of these movements, in some versions by moving the optics and in some versions by moving the image sensor in an opposite direction to the movement."
only time will tell who is better...
Go buy your G2 or HTC, we will buy the Z1, and lets see who will be the first to sell his phone
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Actually, for some time already Sony is using digital version of Steadyshot for video cameras and even in their flagship DSLT's.
It gives results comparable to sensor shift stabilisation but without drawbacks like increased power consumption and heat generation.
So in case of video recording that is good that they have included Steadyshot for video recording that really makes a difference and isn't only typical digital stabilisation with different name.
Thanks for those examples not looking bad at all at this stage.
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Not impressive. Not much better than other phones with smaller sensors. Others even have OIS which the Z1 lacks. It can only shoot in 8MP in 16:9 and with the default superior auto mode. The resolution is no better than other cameras, nor the pixel size. It always amazes me how Sony can screw up using their own sensors, like they did with the Xperia Z, when other companies can use their Exmor RS sensors and do wonders, like Samsung and Apple. These images aren't convincing me of the ONE SONY. The Cybershot division is probably hanging up their phones and turning up their noses in disgust whenever the smartphone division tries to collaborate. Old traditions and rivalries die hard. They sure aren't gonna divulge any secrets for such petty things as CELLPHONE cameras.
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Superior auto in demo is beta, said em some videos.
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It's the 3rd post made by you in which you act like a baby. I ask again, what is your problem? Don't post at all if the only thing you have to say is that sony screwed everyone and everything. You repeat it over and over again in every reply I have seen in Z1 part of the forum.
Get out of here if you can't act like a normal human being!
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Though the Xperia Z1 easily aces through the rest, he feels extremely insecure about Sony grand success. Don't worry. It's normal for a Samsung fanboy. Even Recombu, the one who took and posted the photos say XPERIA Z1 is the winner.
It's true, maybe the camera from z1 is not very good, but that's probably because of firmware. I took some photos in low light conditions and pictures are full of noise.. Let's wait for some updates.
Some real positives in this test, look great compared to the 808 and HTC One mini.
http://mblog.gsmarena.com/a-shootou...8-pureview-shows-great-promise-from-the-sony/
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Maybe is best Android smartphone camera until now.
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Maybe is best Android smartphone camera until now.
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It's looking that way
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Maybe is best Android smartphone camera until now.
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You mean it is the best camera now! Just needs the software to be update then will be perfect!
Sony Xperia Z1 vs Nokia Lumia 1020 shootout surfaces, yields surprising results
http://blog.gsmarena.com/sony-xperi...d-to-nokia-lumia-1020s-41mp-pureview-monster/
Xperia-Lover said:
It seems much better than xperia z!!!
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Not it's not, also the 20Mpxl pics are resampled to 8MPxl by the phone with bad compression system :
http://www.androidpit.fr/test-sony-xperia-z1
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Maybe it's due to bad settings etc... we can make easy extrapolations but the camera doesn't seems to be really better than the Z, and it's still worst than the latest Lumia, Carl Zeiss stuff can't be beat...
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Not it's not, also the 20Mpxl pics are resampled to 8MPxl by the phone with bad compression system :
http://www.androidpit.fr/test-sony-xperia-z1
Maybe it's due to bad settings etc... we can make easy extrapolations but the camera doesn't seems to be really better than the Z, and it's still worst than the latest Lumia, Carl Zeiss stuff can't be beat...
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Wow,Hope the upgrade will solve those problems!
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Wow,Hope the upgrade will solve those problems!
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you are right when i purchase htc one photo quality very poor then i update one then photo quality improved
i think update improve quality
Look at these samples:
Sony Xperia Z1
http://gavinsgadgets.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/2013-09-21-08-27-51.jpg
Apple iPhone 5S
http://gavinsgadgets.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/img_0052.jpg
I'm not going to say anything further, because a picture tells a thousand words. But what an absolute disgrace this is.
Credit: @gavinfabl http://gavinsgadgets.wordpress.com/
I think Sony need to get the camera fixed asap judging by them photo's.
for other samples is very good, maybe is manual mode causa that.
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for other samples is very good, maybe is manual mode causa that.
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Mate, whatever the mode, my Nokia 7650 took better photos than that. Seriously.
dw1llow said:
Mate, whatever the mode, my Nokia 7650 took better photos than that. Seriously.
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see some samples here http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Sony-Xperia-Z1-Review_id3427/page/3#2-Samsung-Galaxy-S4
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Mate, whatever the mode, my Nokia 7650 took better photos than that. Seriously.
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I can confirm that also mine make bad, bad, photo. For me it's not only software problem. More units are assembled in bad way other have right assembled lens so good sample near to iphone 5s or also better
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see some samples here http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Sony-Xperia-Z1-Review_id3427/page/3#2-Samsung-Galaxy-S4
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Look at this http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/reviews/140430-image/Strong-light.jpg
And that's with Strong Light. Don't even bother with low lights.. lol
acer73 said:
I can confirm that also mine make bad, bad, photo. For me it's not only software problem. More units are assembled in bad way other have right assembled lens so good sample near to iphone 5s or also better
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I just hope that it's software/BIONZ problem, that can be fixed via firmware update.
Maybe unlocking the bootloader and losing BIONZ would be a good thing. Only time will tell, when custom roms start rolling out.
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Look at these samples:
Sony Xperia Z1
http://gavinsgadgets.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/2013-09-21-08-27-51.jpg
Apple iPhone 5S
http://gavinsgadgets.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/img_0052.jpg
I'm not going to say anything further, because a picture tells a thousand words. But what an absolute disgrace this is.
Credit: @gavinfabl http://gavinsgadgets.wordpress.com/
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It's not disgraceful. The superior auto mode felt an ISO of 1250 was required for that shot compared to iPhone's 320. It's closed to 4 timez iPhone's ISO. The less the ISO, the better the shots are - provided you don't shake too much.
I think it's better to compare shots with similar set ISOs like the outdoor shots where the Z1 did much better.
It's very interesting to note with have threads like "shame on Sony - display lottery", which was proven false and now "disgraceful camera - my Nokia (which Sony sold more phones compared to it) 78blablah takes better photos".
Samsung/Apple fanboys seems extremely insecure about this great product. It's normal. It's called jealousy.
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It's not disgraceful. The superior auto mode felt an ISO of 1250 was required for that shot compared to iPhone's 320. It's closed to 4 timez iPhone's ISO. The less the ISO, the better the shots are - provided you don't shake too much.
I think it's better to compare shots with similar set ISOs like the outdoor shots where the Z1 did much better.
It's very interesting to note with have threads like "shame on Sony - display lottery", which was proven false and now "disgraceful camera - my Nokia (which Sony sold more phones compared to it) 78blablah takes better photos".
Samsung/Apple fanboys seems extremely insecure about this great product. It's normal. It's called jealousy.
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in same post http://www.flickr.com/photos/gavinfabl100/sets/72157635718285964/
samples of z1 have much better color accuracy, but iso is not same, because of this have more noise in z1 samples.
lee480 said:
It's not disgraceful. The superior auto mode felt an ISO of 1250 was required for that shot compared to iPhone's 320. It's closed to 4 timez iPhone's ISO. The less the ISO, the better the shots are - provided you don't shake too much.
I think it's better to compare shots with similar set ISOs like the outdoor shots where the Z1 did much better.
It's very interesting to note with have threads like "shame on Sony - display lottery", which was proven false and now "disgraceful camera - my Nokia (which Sony sold more phones compared to it) 78blablah takes better photos".
Samsung/Apple fanboys seems extremely insecure about this great product. It's normal. It's called jealousy.
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So in such conditions, Z1 users need to set all settings manually which 5S is able to produce automatically, just to match what 5S can do?
And dude, what's with the samsung/apple fanboy crap? I bought a Z1, that makes me a samsung/apple fan? looks like you yourself are a touchy fanboy, being all defensive and sensitive :laugh:
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He is just trying to figure out
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He is just trying to figure out
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Damn right bro. And I've already purchased, and committed, as you can see in my other posts. What's with this fanboy crap, jeese.
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So in such conditions, Z1 users need to set all settings manually which 5S is able to produce automatically, just to match what 5S can do?
And dude, what's with the samsung/apple fanboy crap? I bought a Z1, that makes me a samsung/apple fan? looks like you yourself are a touchy fanboy, being all defensive and sensitive :laugh:
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Nah, if you named your thread more appropriately, it'll be much better.
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Nah, if you named your thread more appropriately, it'll be much better.
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Man, I hate fanboys, but nothing I hate more than fanboys in your own "clan", just makes rest of us look like a-holes.
I just called it as it is. If you don't think that is disgraceful, I don't know what is. It's tough love bro. Don't cry.
Here photos no words. (Thanks to blacktime)
Z1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/urjyaextvptg4gm/DSC_0039.JPG
5s
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0mnq8u4dqr... 51 48.jpg
Z1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/s7xtu65ozzfdjtf/DSC_0040.JPG
5s
https://www.dropbox.com/s/r3a902wk7y... 52 02.jpg
Z1 used here it's only item from z1 batch/sample in italian forum that made good photo.
Here my bad photo
https://www.dropbox.com/s/n6vvn07dxh5oo0m/2013-09-18 13.44.09.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nd3gz5suewrh8yg/2013-09-18 13.44.28.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nd3gz5suewrh8yg/2013-09-18 13.44.28.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ccnz3u4e1i1vjfk/2013-09-18 13.45.40.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/krsgaumns9uoprz/2013-09-18 13.46.41.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zgv4b5e3tq6ianu/2013-09-20 17.00.34.jpg
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Man, I hate fanboys, but nothing I hate more than fanboys in your own "clan", just makes rest of us look like a-holes.
I just called it as it is. If you don't think that is disgraceful, I don't know what is. It's tough love bro. Don't cry.
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Lol. Did I hurt your feelings? Don't worry. It's normal. The most shameful users are people who blows this kind of things out of proportion using words like disgraceful and shameful. Don't worry, there's no point and I will not be replying to your "rebuts". Rant all you want. Just don't rain.
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Lol. Did I hurt your feelings? Don't worry. It's normal. The most shameful users are people who blows this kind of things out of proportion using words like disgraceful and shameful. Don't worry, there's no point and I will not be replying to your "rebuts". Rant all you want. Just don't rain.
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lol you call this blowing out of proportion. hahahaha you really are a blind fanboy. When Sony releases an update to fix the camera issues, i'll assume you won't install it, cus you're perfectly happy with the current performance.
yeah, that's right, walk away lol
Edit. Xperia Z, T, TL, TX, V, S, P, U, wow you really are a fanboy lol
Stop the fight it is unhealthy. i posted the pic to end the fight. this is a development forum do not forget that
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Here photos no words. (Thanks to blacktime)
Z1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/urjyaextvptg4gm/DSC_0039.JPG
5s
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Z1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/s7xtu65ozzfdjtf/DSC_0040.JPG
5s
https://www.dropbox.com/s/r3a902wk7y... 52 02.jpg
Z1 used here it's only item from z1 batch/sample in italian forum that made good photo.
Here my bad photo
https://www.dropbox.com/s/n6vvn07dxh5oo0m/2013-09-18 13.44.09.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nd3gz5suewrh8yg/2013-09-18 13.44.28.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nd3gz5suewrh8yg/2013-09-18 13.44.28.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ccnz3u4e1i1vjfk/2013-09-18 13.45.40.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/krsgaumns9uoprz/2013-09-18 13.46.41.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zgv4b5e3tq6ianu/2013-09-20 17.00.34.jpg
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5s links are broken
I agree with the original poster that camera performance is disgraceful. A phone who's major selling feature is the camera must have camera working perfectly out of the box. I judge a product based on current performance, not what might be sometime in the future. For that reason, I would return the phone and demand a full refund. If everyone affected did that, Sony would be compelled to fix this problem.
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Apparently, DxO Mark just gave out a score to Xperia Z1 and amazingly, just sits at 2nd place behind the Pureview 808 in overall Mobile Camera Ranking! :victory:
And that's without the "firmware updates" that will supposedly improve the camera!
I can't post the link as I'm still within the new user limitation of posting outside links. But if you're curious to see it, just do a quick google search for DxOMark and Xperia Z1!
More details:
Actually, the stills for Z1 stands at 5th place, however the video was deemed to be outstanding and the best in the mobile cameras and just 2nd place in their database behind the GoPro Hero 3!
If you're wondering what happened to the 1020, they also have an article on it and while they deemed the stills to be amazing and 2nd only to the 808. However, video was said to be lacking.
What are your thoughts?
bloodfire1004 said:
Apparently, DxO Mark just gave out a score to Xperia Z1 and amazingly, just sits at 2nd place behind the Pureview 808 in overall Mobile Camera Ranking! :victory:
And that's without the "firmware updates" that will supposedly improve the camera!
I can't post the link as I'm still within the new user limitation of posting outside links. But if you're curious to see it, just do a quick google search for DxOMark and Xperia Z1!
More details:
Actually, the stills for Z1 stands at 5th place, however the video was deemed to be outstanding and the best in the mobile cameras and just 2nd place in their database behind the GoPro Hero 3!
If you're wondering what happened to the 1020, they also have an article on it and while they deemed the stills to be amazing and 2nd only to the 808. However, video was said to be lacking.
What are your thoughts?
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I guess the big sensor is the key here. Dxomark doesn't reflect the real life though. I'm not very happy with the z1 camera... far too noisy especially at 20mp. Still better than my older nexus 4 anyway.
j0sh0 said:
I guess the big sensor is the key here. Dxomark doesn't reflect the real life though. I'm not very happy with the z1 camera... far too noisy especially at 20mp. Still better than my older nexus 4 anyway.
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Just curious, what settings are you using? I'm pretty satisfied with the Z1 Camera of mine, but that was after tweaking some of the shooting settings I'm in. At first, I was pretty disappointed as well but now I think I'm good.
bloodfire1004 said:
Just curious, what settings are you using? I'm pretty satisfied with the Z1 Camera of mine, but that was after tweaking some of the shooting settings I'm in. At first, I was pretty disappointed as well but now I think I'm good.
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I bought the phone yesterday so I'm still testing it. At the moment I like to shoot in manual mode at 8mp with image stabiliser on.
j0sh0 said:
I bought the phone yesterday so I'm still testing it. At the moment I like to shoot in manual mode at 8mp with image stabiliser on.
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Ah ok. That's good then. Shooting at 20MP especially in low-light results in (I'm not sure why) worse pictures than shooting at 8MP 4:3 .. in my tests, it resulted in darker images.
I also like to shoot at 8MP 4:3 to take advantage of the oversampling and leave the rest of the settings to Auto. One thing though is that I turn off the Stabilizer. I found that turning it on resulted in the camera choosing a much higher ISO than intended compared when leaving it off. This may be due to its detection of slight handshake movements and it tries to compensate by upping the ISO in favor of a faster shutter speed.
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Ah ok. That's good then. Shooting at 20MP especially in low-light results in (I'm not sure why) worse pictures than shooting at 8MP 4:3 .. in my tests, it resulted in darker images.
I also like to shoot at 8MP 4:3 to take advantage of the oversampling and leave the rest of the settings to Auto. One thing though is that I turn off the Stabilizer. I found that turning it on resulted in the camera choosing a much higher ISO than intended compared when leaving it off. This may be due to its detection of slight handshake movements and it tries to compensate by upping the ISO in favor of a faster shutter speed.
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Yes shooting at 20mp is useless. Pics are so noisy... it's a shame. At 8mp the image quality is pretty good and yes, with the stabiliser on the iso is higher for that reason. But I prefer a bit more noise other than a blurred image.
j0sh0 said:
Yes shooting at 20mp is useless. Pics are so noisy... it's a shame. At 8mp the image quality is pretty good and yes, with the stabiliser on the iso is higher for that reason. But I prefer a bit more noise other than a blurred image.
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Nice. What metering and focus are you using? Particularly for macro / night shots. I find that using Single Auto Focus setting doesn't keep the whole image in focus and just the middle part, but I find that the multi-auto focus setting doesn't do too well either particularly in macro shots. Currently, I shoot in landscape mode when shooting macro.
I'm using metering average (it seems to do a better job with white balance as well). About focus I always use touch focus... I like to choose what I want in focus...
I love th bokeh management of the lens.. look at this for example
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"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
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j0sh0 said:
I'm using metering average (it seems to do a better job with white balance as well). About focus I always use touch focus... I like to choose what I want in focus...
I love th bokeh management of the lens.. look at this for example
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Ohh nice, I'm gonna try that out Thanks!
j0sh0 said:
I bought the phone yesterday so I'm still testing it. At the moment I like to shoot in manual mode at 8mp with image stabiliser on.
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And there's you mistake - the software image stabiliser introduces noise. Switch it off.
Timaustin2000 said:
And there's you mistake - the software image stabiliser introduces noise. Switch it off.
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Yeah, I know... but as I said I prefer a slighty noiser image than a blurred one. I'll try again without stabiliser anyway.
j0sh0 said:
Yeah, I know... but as I said I prefer a slighty noiser image than a blurred one. I'll try again without stabiliser anyway.
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Hopefully new update has improved superior auto mode...
Try night mode can reduce noise.
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Why is everyone so scared of noise I just don't get it. If the fine detail is their don't worry about the noise.
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Yeah. The Z1 does lovely bokeh.
here is theDxO report for the Z1 which i could not find on DxO's website.
matheus_sc said:
I dont think samsung software is better, have more mods, but is very large and camera lags, i have gs4 9500 until last week
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What i find telling from that review is this graph.
Above 80 lux the S4 shots have more 'texture' than the Z1.
Contrary to what people might think the Z1 has the best noise reduction indoors.
bloodfire1004 said:
Apparently, DxO Mark just gave out a score to Xperia Z1 and amazingly, just sits at 2nd place behind the Pureview 808 in overall Mobile Camera Ranking! :victory:
And that's without the "firmware updates" that will supposedly improve the camera!
I can't post the link as I'm still within the new user limitation of posting outside links. But if you're curious to see it, just do a quick google search for DxOMark and Xperia Z1!
More details:
Actually, the stills for Z1 stands at 5th place, however the video was deemed to be outstanding and the best in the mobile cameras and just 2nd place in their database behind the GoPro Hero 3!
If you're wondering what happened to the 1020, they also have an article on it and while they deemed the stills to be amazing and 2nd only to the 808. However, video was said to be lacking.
What are your thoughts?
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Not much of a fan of them anymore, after I wrote to them to see if they would do the Xperia Z test again after Sony updating the firmware to fix the bad camera quality, they didn't even respond to me. On the flip side it is Sony's fault for shipping substandard equipment, get all the important things right first, especially the camera when they are making such a big deal about how amazing it is.
DxO finally got around to testing the G2. Overall G2 placed 6th. However in the photo section it ties with the Z1 in terms of score. A closer examination of the parameters tested shows the Z1 edges ahead slighlty.
Where the Z1 comes out ahead : Exposure & Contrast, Colour, Noise Reduction, Flash
Where the G2 comes out ahead : Autofocus, Texture, Artifacts
4 > 3 or Z1 ahead by a little.
What lets the G2 down is video, where its ranked 15th to the Z1's 2nd place.
If you consider phones alone, Z1 has the best video out there.
Now we have to wait for DxO to test the Note 3 to see whether it will affect the Z1's ranking.
Sorry to jump here like that, I don't even know all this stuff but after read what you guys saying is like the camera on Z1 was made for experienced people who know how to set up the device. This is a phone anyway and I like to go around and shooting everything but almost of the pictures are crap. That how shouldn't be with a camera on a phone with 20mpx.
I was really bummed about the camera app and quality when I first bought my Z1 because it didn't deliver what I thought it would. But I figured what the hell I love the looks of this phone I also find the waterproofnessness(!) extremely useful, so it doesn't matter if the camera doesn't deliver what I hoped for, I can live with it, you know? but then the "update" came and it made the camera worse than it was before, so naturally, as every camera fanatic would, I got really mad! I tried a bunch of apps but they were no good I also tried the so called "Superior Auto" mode and it didn't really helped so I had no other choice but to call Sony Support Center for help.... And this is what I got so far:
Oct 30
ME:
I just bought the Z1 with software v. 14.1.G.2.257.The camera takes terrible and I mean terrible pictures,lots and lots of noise and artifacts even in auto mode which only takes 8MP pics.This is not what you hope for when you buy an expensive 20.7MP camera phone.I also have iPhone 5/5S and they take much much better pictures,even though their specs are inferior on paper. You should be ashamed...Am I gonna have to live withit or youregonna fixit?
THEM:
Dear Ara,
Thank you for contacting Sony Xperia™ Online Support.
We're sorry to hear that you're experiencing poor image quality from the camera of your Xperia™ Z1. I'm happy to assist you today, however, in order to provide you with the best possible service, it would be helpful to have more information about the issue at hand.
Are you using the front facing camera, or the outward facing camera? Has the camera always captured low quality images, or is this a new issue? Have you tried restarting the phone by holding the power key and the volume up key simultaneously until the phone vibrates? Have you cleaned the outside of the lens?
If you will please reply with more information, we'll gladly assist you further.
As part of Sony Mobile's commitment to excellent customer service, we offer a wide variety of mobile products to suit your lifestyle. If you require more information, or have any other questions, please visit www.sonymobile.com.
Kind Regards,
Jessica
Sony Xperia Customer Services
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ME:
This is the same exact situation I'm in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2501027
and come on what kind of an idiot contacts the costumer service before checking if the lens is clean?
Nov 9!
THEM:
Dear Ara,
Thank you for contacting Sony Xperia™ Online Support.
We apologize for the delay of our response. Regarding your inquiry, the best we can recommend is a software repair via computer in order to discard any possibility of a software glitch. For this follow the steps below:
Here is the link you will need to download PC Companion
http://www.sonymobile.com/us/tools/pc-companion/
Once you have downloaded the program these are the steps you will need to follow:
*Make sure the phone is fully charged or at least 50% charged
*Make sure your phone is completely powered off
*Open the program
*Click on Support Zone
*Select Phone Software Update
*Click on Repair Phone
**DO NOT CONNECT THE PHONE TO THE PC UNTIL YOU SEE A MESSAGE THAT WILL LET YOU KNOW WHEN AND HOW TO DO IT
As part of Sony Mobile's commitment to excellent customer service, we offer a wide variety of mobile products to suit your lifestyle. If you require more information, or have any other questions, please visit www.sonymobile.com or call us at 1-866-766-9374.
Kind Regards,
Jessica
Sony Xperia US Customer Services
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ME:
Oh for god sake! This isn't a problem on my side... I'm actually in position of two Z1s one with 14.1.G.2.257 and the other with 14.1.G.1.534 both devices are absolutely clean by anymeans (software and hardware), I'll give you a comparison of the two and my iPhone 5S as soon as I'm done working, please do not assume that there is something wrong only and only with my device... either all the Z1s have horrible cameras or you just screwed up the camera algorithm which can be fixed... either way its on your part!
Again ME:
OK, so here they are:
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These are the samples I sent them:
8MP 1.534
8MP 2.257
20MP 1.534
20MP 2.257
iPh5S 7.0.3
If you guys do have the same problem as me (which you do!) please mention it here, Maybe this way they stop BS-ing me!
ara.armagedon said:
I was really bummed about the camera app and quality when I first bought my Z1 because it didn't deliver what I thought it would. But I figured what the hell I love the looks of this phone I also find the waterproofnessness(!) extremely useful, so it doesn't matter if the camera doesn't deliver what I hoped for, I can live with it, you know? but then the "update" came and it made the camera worse than it was before, so naturally, as every camera fanatic would, I got really mad! I tried a bunch of apps but they were no good I also tried the so called "Superior Auto" mode and it didn't really helped so I had no other choice but to call Sony Support Center for help.... And this is what I got so far:
Oct 30
ME:
I just bought the Z1 with software v. 14.1.G.2.257.The camera takes terrible and I mean terrible pictures,lots and lots of noise and artifacts even in auto mode which only takes 8MP pics.This is not what you hope for when you buy an expensive 20.7MP camera phone.I also have iPhone 5/5S and they take much much better pictures,even though their specs are inferior on paper. You should be ashamed...Am I gonna have to live withit or youregonna fixit?
THEM:
ME:
This is the same exact situation I'm in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2501027
and come on what kind of an idiot contacts the costumer service before checking if the lens is clean?
Nov 9!
THEM:
ME:
Oh for god sake! This isn't a problem on my side... I'm actually in position of two Z1s one with 14.1.G.2.257 and the other with 14.1.G.1.534 both devices are absolutely clean by anymeans (software and hardware), I'll give you a comparison of the two and my iPhone 5S as soon as I'm done working, please do not assume that there is something wrong only and only with my device... either all the Z1s have horrible cameras or you just screwed up the camera algorithm which can be fixed... either way its on your part!
Again ME:
OK, so here they are:
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I'll upload the pics for you guys later today
If you guys do have the same problem as me (which you do!) please mention here, Maybe this way they stop BS-ing me!
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There seems to be a mixed bag in terms of this camera, majority of tech site reviewers have gotten good results with the camera. I am fairly certain(imo)there are dodgy batches of this phone floating about, just ask anyone who bought a z1 from India. Well anyway i don't have any issues with my z1 in terms of camera functionality and quality. The reason Sony support ask all these stupid questions, is they have a set of troubleshooting questions and no matter how stupid they sound they are going to ask them as this is part of their process, they have to rule out the simplest of things even if it doesnt apply to you. If you read throught the z1 forum, you will see a lot of threads, some saying the phone is amazing and others have shown users are not happy, now this could be down to software issues or hardware issues. In your case, if you have tried all the basic stuff like reflashing the software and what not then go and get a replacement and if you are still not happy get a refund.
First of all:
Dude, learn how tot use a phone camera, Z1 doesn't have a bad camera. It takes great pictures with the right settings. I'm sick and tired of people that probably don't know how to use a camera or maybe just love posting this kinda sh*t.
If you have a bad unit, in this case 2, ask for a replacement or something else before saying all Z1 cameras are bad.
Second:
Sending emails to a company with such language is really stupid, the person that gets your email is just human, you can be friendly to them.
Third:
Mods please delete this thread.
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krabappel2548 said:
First of all:
Dude, learn how tot use a phone camera, Z1 doesn't have a bad camera. It takes great pictures with the right settings. I'm sick and tired of people that probably don't know how to use a camera or maybe just love posting this kinda sh*t.
If you have a bad unit, in this case 2, ask for a replacement or something else before saying all Z1 cameras are bad.
Second:
Sending emails to a company with such language is really stupid, the person that gets your email is just human, you can be friendly to them.
Third:
Mods please delete this thread.
Sent from my Xperia Z1 using xda app-developers app
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I completely agree with you, specially on second and third point.
krabappel2548 said:
First of all:
Dude, learn how tot use a phone camera, Z1 doesn't have a bad camera. It takes great pictures with the right settings. I'm sick and tired of people that probably don't know how to use a camera or maybe just love posting this kinda sh*t.
If you have a bad unit, in this case 2, ask for a replacement or something else before saying all Z1 cameras are bad.
Second:
Sending emails to a company with such language is really stupid, the person that gets your email is just human, you can be friendly to them.
Third:
Mods please delete this thread.
Sent from my Xperia Z1 using xda app-developers app
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To be honest, the superior auto mode SHOULD be better then what it is. Tons of people will not get past the auto mode and a company should make sure it is up to par. It kinda sucks you have to go into settings to change them every time to suit the best situation if you just want to take a quick nice snap.
Completely agree with the rest though, the tone in your first message is insulting right away. How do you expect people to help if you start shouting at them,
Wait at least until the 3rd mail before giving up (because in all honesty, it IS extremely frustrating that very often the people answering your mail don't even seem to read it and just give some autoreply answer. The times I mailed support, explaining exactly the issue and steps already taken to resolve it only to get a 'have you tried resetting the device?' YES! That was the first point in my 'already tried' list.).
ara.armagedon said:
I'll upload the pics for you guys later today.
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Yah, do that.
Make sure the originals are linked i don't want to see downsized images with no exif data.
Put them up either on dropbox, flickr or photobucket.
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ara.armagedon said:
This is the same exact situation I'm in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2501027
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I could not make out much in that thread as the OP never provided originals.
The picture itself was a challenging one given the bakclighting issues. How well would other phones have compared in the same situation.
No frame of reference to come to any conclusions.
One Twelve said:
Yah, do that.
Make sure the originals are linked i don't want to see downsized images with no exif data.
Put them up either on dropbox, flickr or photobucket.
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I could not make out much in that thread as the OP never provided originals.
The picture itself was a challenging one given the bakclighting issues. How well would other phones have compared in the same situation.
No frame of reference to come to any conclusions.
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8MP 1.534
8MP 2.257
20MP 1.534
20MP 2.257
iPh5S 7.0.3
They're not publicly available. Change your folder settings on drop box mate
wezzel98765 said:
They're not publicly available. Change your folder settings on drop box mate
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My bad, sorry. They should be fine now
ara.armagedon said:
8MP 1.534
8MP 2.257
20MP 1.534
20MP 2.257
iPh5S 7.0.3
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does not work
btort1 said:
does not work
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I'm logged out now and they're working fine, tried them on 3 different browsers
have you trie Pro Capture?
I get better photos. Sharper and more details inside
Maybe only @8MPX
ara.armagedon said:
8MP 1.534
8MP 2.257
20MP 1.534
20MP 2.257
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OK, i can see them now.
This is what you said
The camera takes terrible and I mean terrible pictures,lots and lots of noise and artifacts even in auto mode which only takes 8MP pics.This is not what you hope for when you buy an expensive 20.7MP camera phone.I also have iPhone 5/5S and they take much much better pictures,even though their specs are inferior on paper. You should be ashamed...Am I gonna have to live withit or youregonna fixit?
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I looked at the 8MP, .534 vs .257 and find the .257 to have more detail. Ths ISO for the .257 is at 600 vs 800 for .534
The 20MP have lower ISO of 400 and similar shutter speeds as the 5s.
Comparing the iphone pic & the .257 8MP, can anybody see what he means by lots of noise & artifacts ? Cause i cannot.
The pictures look sharp enough to me, so focus isn't an issue in either. Zooming in 1:1, there is a slightly better edge aronud the bag? with the iphone. But i cannot see why the 8MP .257 shot is a terrible one in comparison to the 5s.
The 5s shots are at ISO 300 and at 1/15s So they will be little less noisy.
So what is dissapointing you ? that the 20.7mp image does not look better than the 8MP one ? that it isn't much better than the 5s ?
Any times where the auto on your 5s does not get it right or is it always perfect.
The moment I use flash, the camera churns out horrible images. It's sad really, makes my Z1 camera photos look worse than anything else (white flash on one side of the image).
https://db.tt/E5Q5vWfs
My singl. Img 2.257
GPKrzychuXxX said:
https://db.tt/E5Q5vWfs
My singl. Img 2.257
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thats an excellent photo, makes me wonder if it was taken with the Z1 lol
Gitaroo said:
thats an excellent photo, makes me wonder if it was taken with the Z1 lol[/QUOTE
]https://db.tt/OqngWREP
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thunderising said:
The moment I use flash, the camera churns out horrible images. It's sad really, makes my Z1 camera photos look worse than anything else (white flash on one side of the image).
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There's something blocking your Flash, mine is perfectly fine with flash
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One Twelve said:
OK, i can see them now.
This is what you said
I looked at the 8MP, .534 vs .257 and find the .257 to have more detail. Ths ISO for the .257 is at 600 vs 800 for .534
The 20MP have lower ISO of 400 and similar shutter speeds as the 5s.
Comparing the iphone pic & the .257 8MP, can anybody see what he means by lots of noise & artifacts ? Cause i cannot.
The pictures look sharp enough to me, so focus isn't an issue in either. Zooming in 1:1, there is a slightly better edge aronud the bag? with the iphone. But i cannot see why the 8MP .257 shot is a terrible one in comparison to the 5s.
The 5s shots are at ISO 300 and at 1/15s So they will be little less noisy.
So what is dissapointing you ? that the 20.7mp image does not look better than the 8MP one ? that it isn't much better than the 5s ?
Any times where the auto on your 5s does not get it right or is it always perfect.
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This is why I was already mad with the support team.
First of all, saying the photos differ because of the ISO while partially true is no excuse, because all the pictures were taken in the same lighting condition and the same focusing area. So the fact that the ISOs differ is actually a software weakness (specially if they differ in the same model, So please don't respond saying something like different lenses because of different phones and so on.)
Second if you really don't see what I'm talking about I'll try just this once to tell you what I mean:
See this again 20MP 2.257
This is the difference between a noisy and non-noisy! :
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Thraxzzz said:
There's something blocking your Flash, mine is perfectly fine with flash
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How is that even possible. I know how to operate a phone camera to not black the flash,
It only happens when I click under low light conditions. Some cheap ass Lenovo phone was churning out better photos than my flagship phone. I felt embarrassed to say the least
This is the OnePlus One user photo and camera discussion thread
Camera features:
Image sensor: Sony BSI Exmor IMX214 CMOS, 1/3.06" sensor size
Lens: F2.0, 6-element auto-focus system
Maximum photo resolution: 4160x3120, 13 megapixels
Front facing camera: 5 megapixels w/80º wide angle
Maximum video resolution: 3840x2160 = 4k at 30FPS, 1920x1080 at 60FPS, 1280x720p at 120FPS
Features: HDR, panorama, image stabilization, face detection, tap to focus, geo-tagging, face-detection
The official OnePlus One camera samples
For more info, full size and EXIF, please visit the OnePlus website here: http://oneplus.net/one#features
If this photos are true i can only say " Its Amazing great!! "
Cheers
xenix96 said:
If this photos are true i can only say " Its Amazing great!! "
Cheers
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The IMX214 is a very capable sensor, and 1+'s ISP (Qualcomm?) looks quality too. Of course much will depend on speed, reliability and low light, I'll be looking to find more shots.
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The IMX214 is a very capable sensor, and 1+'s ISP (Qualcomm?) looks quality too. Of course much will depend on speed, reliability and low light, I'll be looking to find more shots.
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As soon as the first users here own a device, this thread will be flooded with shots, I'm sure...
Not my picture but this was my favourite from some of the ones I saw from preproduction models.
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I certainly hope that with real world conditions it can deliver quality like shown above.
The best part is the 2 sensors that i have noticed that perform beautifully are the IMX179 and IMX214. Obvious 214 will be even better for sure.. Really hope they launch the phone around the different parts of the world soon.
Low light capabilities are incredible, if you search you will understand that how its better than A Nikon D3100 in low light.
Jishnu Sur™ said:
The best part is the 2 sensors that i have noticed that perform beautifully are the IMX179 and IMX214. Obvious 214 will be even better for sure.. Really hope they launch the phone around the different parts of the world soon.
Low light capabilities are incredible, if you search you will understand that how its better than A Nikon D3100 in low light.
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Are you going to be picking up this device? I don't care much for cameras but this caught my eye and since you're on here I'm even more excited about the camera.
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FuMMoD said:
Are you going to be picking up this device? I don't care much for cameras but this caught my eye and since you're on here I'm even more excited about the camera.
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Hello Sir !
Nice to see you here too..I'm trying to get this device from Europe somehow.. Seems too good to be true! What interests me is the IMX214 sensor lol..I really need that system dump too!
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Hello Sir !
Nice to see you here too..I'm trying to get this device from Europe somehow.. Seems too good to be true! What interests me is the IMX214 sensor lol..I really need that system dump too!
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You can be sure to get one from me if I get picked with the first batch of invites. If I have to smash my Nexus 5 then I'll do it to get a system dump for the community lol.
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Jishnu Sur™ said:
The best part is the 2 sensors that i have noticed that perform beautifully are the IMX179 and IMX214. Obvious 214 will be even better for sure.. Really hope they launch the phone around the different parts of the world soon.
Low light capabilities are incredible, if you search you will understand that how its better than A Nikon D3100 in low light.
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A good Sony IMX sensor with a proper lens and image signal processor can bring wonderful images, see iPhone 5S. Which is why I'm puzzled to this day how come Sony's own Xperia Z, Z1 and even some Z2 shots look so over-processed, showing some lens inconsistencies and some SW errors too. Both the Oppo Find 7 and the OnePlus One launch with the new IMX214, and I'm curious how will they fare compared to other Exmors, the Lumias and ISOCELL. So far it is promising.
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You can be sure to get one from me if I get picked with the first batch of invites. If I have to smash my Nexus 5 then I'll do it to get a system dump for the community lol.
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Cool ! I'll start arranging the money then! hahahaha .. Yes that would be awesome. This thing is surely worth the price they are asking.
Off topic : Thanks are over, cant press Sorry! :crying:
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A good Sony IMX sensor with a proper lens and image signal processor can bring wonderful images, see iPhone 5S. Which is why I'm puzzled to this day how come Sony's own Xperia Z, Z1 and even some Z2 shots look so over-processed, showing some lens inconsistencies and some SW errors too. Both the Oppo Find 7 and the OnePlus One launch with the new IMX214, and I'm curious how will they fare compared to other Exmors, the Lumias and ISOCELL. So far it is promising.
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I agree with you on the Sony Devices part. I have seen that actually. Sony likes to complicate stuff, i really don't know why. Where they can have a easy way to fi thing, they go the other way. Trust me they have 3-4 different apps for the camera. You tell me who in 2014 does that?! lol .. And I read an article, the ISOCELL vs the IMX179 comparison. (Here). The IMX was better
I really need to have a look at the Lumia's though, they have almost DSLR type quality..
The S5 camera is much, MUCH better than the Nexus 5 to be frank. But the IMX214 is a new generation Sony sensor.
aren't you guys a bit scared about the camera app?
i've tried few phones with cyanogen camera app and they were all a lot worst than the original rom camera app (samsung devices especially)
at least this time they are working on their hardware so i really hope it'll be a lot better
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aren't you guys a bit scared about the camera app?
i've tried few phones with cyanogen camera app and they were all a lot worst than the original rom camera app (samsung devices especially)
at least this time they are working on their hardware so i really hope it'll be a lot better
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their camera on this phone is completely new and we have seen the pictures right? i dont think it will suck
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The IMX214 is a very capable sensor, and 1+'s ISP (Qualcomm?) looks quality too. Of course much will depend on speed, reliability and low light, I'll be looking to find more shots.
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if picture #3 is indeed the correct photo here low light looks amazing
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/contest-guess-the-oneplus-one-photo.368/
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You can be sure to get one from me if I get picked with the first batch of invites. If I have to smash my Nexus 5 then I'll do it to get a system dump for the community lol.
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if you do that the community may have to buy you another nexus to have you keep developing for it :crying: "for the community"
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if picture #3 is indeed the correct photo here low light looks amazing
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Remember that these pictures are taken directly from OP's press page—they might have been doctored/photoshopped. On the other hand, I'd be amazed if the camera actually was this good.
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Remember that these pictures are taken directly from OP's press page—they might have been doctored/photoshopped. On the other hand, I'd be amazed if the camera actually was this good.
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Depending on scene and light conditions, today's smartphones can take impressive photos, see some form my S5 review. As far as dynamic range and per pixel sharpness, 1+1 fits right in among the best of Android photography based on what I've seen so far.
Some of these look really good.
She's a cutie too.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/First-camera-samples-from-the-OnePlus-One-appear_id55043#32-
She is not that bad