[Discussion] Z1 display lottery. Again. - Xperia Z1 General

Shame to Sony, same old Sony being cheap and using about 4 panels for display:
JDI type 1 - AH-IPS (this was used for the ZU)
JDI type 2 - VA (Xperia Z/ZL leftovers)
Sharp - VA (Xperia Z/ZL leftovers)
Samsung - S-PLS (Will only be used after all the VA panels are used up)
Sony is using up the remaining inventory from Z/ZL and mixing in some AH-IPS panels. Once all the VA panels are used up Sony will only use AH-IPS and S-PLS panels.
This would explain why some prototypes and production units have outstanding displays and some are just like Z/ZL.
That's proof:
1) According to gsm-arena
Contrast 1513:1
Brightness 580 cd/m²
Black level 0.38 cd/m²
This is an IPS panel like on Xperia ZU.
Verdict: Much better screen quality.
2)According to hi-tech.mail.ru
Contrast 620:1
Brightness 488 cd/m²
Verdict: same poor panel as on Xperia Z.
3) According to ixbt.com
Contrast 600:1
Brightness 460 cd/m²
Verdict: poor screen.
Pixel arrangement 100% same as on Xperia Z.
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And pixel arrangement on ZU (IPS) for compare:
4) Thanks babylonbwoy for link - French site Les Numeriques tested the Z1 (lab test), they says that the panel is MVA Technology (according to them viewing angle will always be worst than IPS just du to this), and their test shows
Contrast 660:1
Brightness 500 cd/m²
DeltaE 5.5
Remance 13ms
Latence 109ms
XZ1 test http://www.lesnumeriques.com/telepho...6826/test.html
XZ test http://www.lesnumeriques.com/telepho...5135/test.html
So, don't buy first party or go to local store and try screen on hands.

So, any way to tell aside from subjective viewing? Being new to Xperia I haven't seen the other screens.

MouseX said:
Shame to Sony, same old Sony being cheap and using about 4 panels for display:
JDI type 1 - AH-IPS (this was used for the ZU)
JDI type 2 - VA (Xperia Z/ZL leftovers)
Sharp - VA (Xperia Z/ZL leftovers)
Samsung - S-PLS (Will only be used after all the VA panels are used up)
Sony is using up the remaining inventory from Z/ZL and mixing in some AH-IPS panels. Once all the VA panels are used up Sony will only use AH-IPS and S-PLS panels.
This would explain why some prototypes and production units have outstanding displays and some are just like Z/ZL.
That's proof:
1) According to gsm-arena
Contrast 1513:1
Brightness 580 cd/m²
Black level 0.38 cd/m²
This is an IPS panel like on Xperia ZU.
Verdict: Much better screen quality.
2)According to hi-tech.mail.ru
Contrast 620:1
Brightness 488 cd/m²
Verdict: same poor panel as on Xperia Z.
3) According to ixbt.com
Contrast 600:1
Brightness 460 cd/m²
Verdict: poor screen.
Pixel arrangement 100% same as on Xperia Z.
And pixel arrangement on ZU (IPS) for compare:
So, don't buy first party or go to local store and try screen on hands.
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Retail unit comes with good display

jos_031 said:
Retail unit comes with good display
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How do you know/assume?

The one who started spreading that the Z1 uses the leftovers panels from the Z and ZL is total bull****.
I can confirm no such thing occurred.
Practically, if you think about it, how Triluminos works is by emitting a blue LED light into this quantum dots of reds and greens.
Conventional LCD screens like the one that canes with the Z have its white LED shine past the RGB panel.
So if that donkey "source" is correct, Sony have to tear open the leftovers, modify the existing panel for it to be compatible for the blue LED.
It's simply not practical, or perhaps, pure stupidity.
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I have both devices XZU and XZ1 both have the same displays. And my Z1 is the first one available.

lee480 said:
The one who started spreading that the Z1 uses the leftovers panels from the Z and ZL is total bull****.
I can confirm no such thing occurred.
Practically, if you think about it, how Triluminos works is by emitting a blue LED light into this quantum dots of reds and greens.
Conventional LCD screens like the one that canes with the Z have its white LED shine past the RGB panel.
So if that donkey "source" is correct, Sony have to tear open the leftovers, modify the existing panel for it to be compatible for the blue LED.
It's simply not practical, or perhaps, pure stupidity.
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2 tests from 3 confirmed old VA panel. Even pixel arrangement is the same.
I have both devices XZU and XZ1 both have the same displays. And my Z1 is the first one available.
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Lucky!

MouseX said:
2 tests from 3 confirmed old VA panel. Even pixel arrangement is the same.
Lucky!
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Whose tests? I don't buy this ****! Hell, I've seen both phones and the Z1's display is way better! Also better viewing angles!!! Just shut up and stop spreading this trolling nonsenical story!

MouseX said:
2 tests from 3 confirmed old VA panel. Even pixel arrangement is the same.
Lucky!
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Tests by you? How reliable are you?
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in first post there an error, xperia z ultra is not ips display, is TFT, z1 too, for me only gsm arena can be trust of these tree.

Several users from China confirmed that XZ1 uses same old damn poor screen as XZ!

Junpher said:
Several users from China confirmed that XZ1 uses same old damn poor screen as XZ!
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where's the link for proof and are these retail units or demo/pre-production units?

ssj_jaypee said:
where's the link for proof and are these retail units or demo/pre-production units?
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Links:
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/2592994150
This guy ordered XZ1 from official Sony store, see last pic of his post, clearly showed the viewing angle of the screen was poor.
XZ, XZ1, XZU, GS4 screen comparison: http://news.zol.com.cn/article/158662.html
XZ1 camera review: http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNjA5NDEzMjUy.html

Is there anyway to check the manufacturer of the display?

Junpher said:
Links:
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/2592994150
This guy ordered XZ1 from official Sony store, see last pic of his post, clearly showed the viewing angle of the screen was poor.
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He have not told he got it from sony

jos_031 said:
He have not told he got it from sony
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See my edited post. The video more convincing.

Sean473 said:
Whose tests? I don't buy this ****! Hell, I've seen both phones and the Z1's display is way better! Also better viewing angles!!! Just shut up and stop spreading this trolling nonsenical story!
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Don't tell me what to do then I will not say where you should go.
As I wrote in first post: "This would explain why some prototypes and production units have outstanding displays and some are just like Z/ZL."
lee480 said:
Tests by you? How reliable are you?
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Tests from first post.
matheus_sc said:
in first post there an error, xperia z ultra is not ips display, is TFT, z1 too, for me only gsm arena can be trust of these tree.
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No, it has standard IPS pixel arrangement.

China retailed version of XZ1 reviews:
Unboxing: http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNjA4NDUzNDA4.html
Screen: http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNjA5MDU2NTIw.html (from 8:15, clearly showed that the screen is god damn TFT!!!)
Camera: http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNjA5NDEzMjUy.html
Not sure if the videos available to you guys outside of China.

Junpher said:
China retailed version of XZ1 reviews:
Unboxing: http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNjA4NDUzNDA4.html
Screen: http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNjA5MDU2NTIw.html (from 8:15, clearly showed that the screen is god damn TFT!!!)
Camera: http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNjA5NDEzMjUy.html
Not sure if the videos available to you guys outside of China.
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I don't think anyone is saying that it is not TFT...
As for me, as long as it looks good and feels good I will buy it, don't care if its TFT, or OLED... btw IPS is also a type of TFT LCD

Morlock O said:
I don't think anyone is saying that it is not TFT...
As for me, as long as it looks good and feels good I will buy it, don't care if its TFT, or OLED... btw IPS is also a type of TFT LCD
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IPS and VA are 2 types of TFT... both are TFT

Related

***XPERIA Z, ZL and C670X 2013 FLAGSHIPS*** News and Rumors***

Let the rumor mill begin!! :laugh:
According to Xperia Blog Sony C650X ‘Odin’ model number uncovered [2013 flagship] and C660X YUGA are appearing in benchmarks
Sony Mobile is revamping its model numbers from 2013 onwards. Gone is the ST/MT/LT code structure to denote small, medium and large touchscreen handsets. Instead what we now have is a new five character model number that will be the new standard going forward.
The User-Agent Profile (UAProf) for Sony Mobile’s 2013 flagship, codenamed ‘Odin’, has been discovered (see an extract below). From the brief information, we can tell that there are three new Sony Mobile model numbers: C6502, C6503 and C6506. We understand that these are all one handset – the different last character in each model number denotes the region/carrier to be released. The UAProf shows that this 2013 flagship is running Android 4.1.1 Jelly Bean with 10.1.A.0.XXX firmware. Excited? Let the 2013 Xperia rumours begin.
UAProf for Sony C650X ‘Odin’
Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Android 4.1.1; en-us; C6502 Build/10.1.A.0.211) AppleWebKit/534.30 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile Safari/534.30
Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Android 4.1.1; ja-jp; C6503 Build/10.1.A.0.168) AppleWebKit/534.30 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile Safari/534.30
Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Android 4.1.1; sv-se; C6506 Build/10.1.A.0.201) AppleWebKit/534.30 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile Safari/534.30
EDIT 21-10-2012
Sony C650X Odin Phone Pictured – Concept or Leak?
EDIT 27-10-2012
Purported teaser images of Sony Yuga leak
EDIT 7-11-2012
Sony C6603 ‘Yuga’ pictures leak
EDITED 2-3-2013
New Sony C670X details leak: 4.8-inch FHD display, 1.8GHz Snapdragon 600 [Update]
We have received word of a new Sony Xperia C670X handset that is due to launch this summer. The information comes from a tipster who recently provided us with the Android 4.2.2 Jelly Bean screenshot for the Xperia Z. Obviously, as with any rumour, treat all of the following with a pinch of salt.
In terms of specifications, the Sony C670X is expected to come with a slightly smaller display than the Xperia Z (C660X) at 4.8-inches but will still have a full HD resolution of 1080 x 1920. The C670X will be powered by a Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 (APQ8064T) chipset with 1.8GHz quad-core processor and Adreno 320 graphics. Other features include 2GB RAM, 32GB internal storage and a 13MP Exmor RS camera. We are told the phone is due to launch in the middle of 2013 with Android 4.2.
Along with all of this spec information, we were sent a render of the Sony C670X. We cannot tell from the picture if the C670X has a heavy glass influence like the Xperia Z or uses aluminium. Judging from the render, the ear speaker is similar in style to the Z/ZL. It looks like the top of the phone includes a front-facing camera , notification light, light sensor and proximity sensor.
Given that the expected release is still a number of months away, the design may end up changing prior to launch. This is perhaps why there are no app icons in the display area, the render only shows the latest Xperia wallpaper. Anyway, that’s all we have for now. As mentioned before, treat all of this firmly as a rumour.
Update: The image sent over is the same as used in the set up guide for the Xperia Z, despite it clearly not being a picture of the Xperia Z. So either this Sony render is a generic placeholder image used when setting up a new 2013 Sony Xperia handset or it is indeed an image of an upcoming handset that Sony has inadvertently used in the Xperia Z. [Thanks Kihoon!]
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* 4.6"-5'0" SUPER LCD 2 display with bravia engine
* 1.5 ghz A15 QUAD CORE or S4 PRO with 2GB RAM
* MORE ADVANCED TIMESCAPE with apps like WALKMAN , ALBUM , MOVIES they can add CYBERSHOT , PLAYSTATION APPS
* 2500 MAH BATERY
* SLEEK ALUMINIUM UNIBODY DESIGN with 7-8mm thickness
* WATERPROOF / NON WATERPROOF !
* CLEAR & UNIQUE DESIGN
YES AND I COPIED FROM XPERIABLOG
AND No OLED Screen PLZ! Theyre horrible
xperia
lokenok said:
* 4.6"-5'0" SUPER LCD 2 display with bravia engine
* 1.5 ghz A15 QUAD CORE or S4 PRO with 2GB RAM
* MORE ADVANCED TIMESCAPE with apps like WALKMAN , ALBUM , MOVIES they can add CYBERSHOT , PLAYSTATION APPS
* 2500 MAH BATERY
* SLEEK ALUMINIUM UNIBODY DESIGN with 7-8mm thickness
* WATERPROOF / NON WATERPROOF !
* CLEAR & UNIQUE DESIGN
YES AND I COPIED FROM XPERIABLOG
AND No OLED Screen PLZ! Theyre horrible
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What's the fuss about 4.2 it hasn't gone official yet and people are demanding for it, 5in? too much for a smartphone.. OLED display? too much saturated plus BE2 very saturated. I think the more plausible approach is the new Exmor RS sensor and remove the overcompression issue, "C" reminds me of the cybershot and Sony please make it good this time, make it reach the market also ASAP, latest 2012 line have been announced but very few customers are getting it and losing interest.
I think this phone should have a slim design,
good GPU Adreno 320/latest POWERVR
at least 2100 mah
opticontrast display on V or even X-reality engine on their TV's (rather impossible but maybe..)
Camera that's on par or even better than what's on iphone 5 (Not an apple fanboy but we cannot deny how Apple uses Sony's image sensors to the fullest)
Latest OS out of the box that is optimized for the hardware and wont get crappy when updated to another version (2010,2011 and 2012 lines when updated to latest OS Versions sucked big time; JB out of the box more realistic since very few devices are running JB, wont get crappy if updated to rumored Key Lime Pie)
The Sony C660X "Yuga" has just appeared in benchmarks.
http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/10/12/sony-c660x-yuga-unveiled-in-benchmark/
Awesome, seems to have a quad-core S4
im going to buy the v when it comes , no more waiting , they release devices so late that their new device sounds better then the one released... im going to be stuck with my ray forever!!
Source Xperia Blog
Benchmark confirms 1080p display for Sony C660X ‘Yuga’
We are slowly piecing together a jigsaw of some awesome hardware for Sony Mobile’s 2013 flagship device(s). What we know so far is that there will be two sibling flagships – the Sony C650X ‘Odin’ (C6502, C6503, C6506) and Sony C660X ‘Yuga’ (C6603). They will be armed with a 1.5GHz quad-core Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 chipset (APQ8064 & Adreno 320 graphics) and MDM9615 baseband chip with LTE support. These phones are currently being tested with Android 4.1.1 Jelly Bean and 10.1.A.0.XXX firmware.
Now we can confirm that the Sony C660X ‘Yuga’ will have a 1080p (1920 x 1080) display following an appearance in the NenaMark2 benchmark. The benchmark actually points to a resolution of 1794 x 1080, but 126 pixels are likely being used for the on-screen buttons introduced in Android Ice Cream Sandwich. The entry has already been removed from the NenaMark website, but still appears in Google Cache results.
Screen size still remains a mystery for now, but we can make some educated guesses. It is very unlikely to be sub 5-inches given the 1080p display resolution. We know that LG and Sharp have announced their own 5-inch 1080p displays. However, the biggest hint comes from a recent announcement from Japan Display Inc (JDI). For those that don’t know, JDI is a new company for small and medium-sized displays formed in April 2012 through the integration of Sony Mobile Display, Toshiba Mobile Display and Hitachi Displays. It recently announced that it has started to mass produce a 5.0-inch TFT-LCD IPS display module with 1080 x 1920 pixel resolution and 443 PPI.
We do wonder if a smartphone display with pixel density over 400 PPI is a bit overkill though and whether we’d even be able to tell the difference from a 300 PPI device. We’re also not sure what kind of demands this would have on battery life, but it sounds superb nonetheless and all evidence suggests it will come to the next Sony Xperia flagship.
Via Rbmen.
Thanks @musumappa!
I love this performance!
According to Xperia Blog: First Sony C6603 ‘Yuga’ sample picture appears
The first sample picture from the Sony C6603, codenamed Yuga, has appeared on Picasa. The picture itself isn’t revealing as it appears to be of a Chinese poster. The EXIF information doesn’t reveal anything we don’t know either – the compressed image hides what sensor this phone will have. However, we understand it will be running a 13MP Exmor RS CMOS sensor. This particular model is running 10.1.A.0.270 firmware (Android 4.1.1). Both Yuga (C660X) and Odin (C650X) are expected to be the Sony Mobile 2013 flagship models. We’ll bring you more information as we have it.*
Sony C650X Odin Phone Pictured – Concept or Leak?
batman_112 said:
Sony C650X Odin Phone Pictured – Concept or Leak?
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A really nice concept.
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Purported teaser images of Sony Yuga leak
cool thx
batman_112 said:
Purported teaser images of Sony Yuga leak
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I personally dont buy it. But it's so little that it's hard to judge.
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DdcCabuslay said:
I personally dont buy it. But it's so little that it's hard to judge.
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You never know. These leaks are not uncommon. The hardware may change from here till launch. So who knows...
MUST... SELL... XPERIA T...
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Pictures of Yuga have just leaked
http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/11/07/sony-c6603-yuga-pictures-leak/
What do you think guys?
@OP put the pictures on the first post
EDIT: JB is confirmed on this device 4.1.1
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Who knows if that's the final design. If it is I my opinion it doesn't look that great compared to the nxt series and the arc. Flat back is nice but the sides doesn't look that great especially with the silver power button. Looks weird doesn't blend in like the tx.
I guess I'll be waiting for the Xperia x, q4 of 2013~
LitoNi said:
Who knows if that's the final design. If it is I my opinion it doesn't look that great compared to the nxt series and the arc. Flat back is nice but the sides doesn't look that great especially with the silver power button. Looks weird doesn't blend in like the tx.
I guess I'll be waiting for the Xperia x, q4 of 2013~
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There's also Odin which hasn't been leaked yet but it might look similar.
Personally I agree that it looks not as good as the arcs or NXT phones but it still looks good. But a glass back concerns me. I'm fairly careful with my phone but one drop with Yuga and its game over.
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And plus its 5 inch. I can't handle it with a single hand.
and also since it's a glass back I doubt this phone would have a removable battery. ><

brightness of S4 display

Hİ, guys
galaxy s3 screen was dim has anybody played with S4 is screen brighter than S3 i live in very sunny place need brightness thanks.
I haven't played with the S4 yet, however though, the S4's screen is clearly brighter than the S3's in some of the video on YouTube
The S4's screen is (according to reports) a little brighter than the S3.
so a little galaxy s3 was 330 cd so would s4 be 400?
Maximum brightness seems good, white is quite strong when it shines up (on pictures when you hover over the screen), but Samsung SW may tone it down for browsing etc. They say the new one will be adaptive depending on tasks and user habits and will be presets and manual adjustments available.
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thanks so its brighter tha s3 but is it like iphone 5
cihanleanne said:
Hİ, guys
galaxy s3 screen was dim has anybody played with S4 is screen brighter than S3 i live in very sunny place need brightness thanks.
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do u know,
Why amoled become darker ?!
S II was prefect in screen but after that i had lots of problem outdoor to use S III and i had to set brightness 100% !!!
now S IV has darker display than s3 !!!
samsung tries to have deep black but in software he set just deep darkness !
but i hope problem of darkness be like problem of demo version of xperia Z that were white... and in premium version It has S.oO pretty screen
x102x96x said:
do u know,
Why amoled become darker ?!
S II was prefect in screen but after that i had lots of problem outdoor to use S III and i had to set brightness 100% !!!
now S IV has darker display than s3 !!!
samsung tries to have deep black but in software he set just deep darkness !
but i hope problem of darkness be like problem of demo version of xperia Z that were white... and in premium version It has S.oO pretty screen
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so s4 is even darker tah s3 ?
x102x96x said:
do u know,
Why amoled become darker ?!
S II was prefect in screen but after that i had lots of problem outdoor to use S III and i had to set brightness 100% !!!
now S IV has darker display than s3 !!!
samsung tries to have deep black but in software he set just deep darkness !
but i hope problem of darkness be like problem of demo version of xperia Z that were white... and in premium version It has S.oO pretty screen
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so s4 is even darker tah s3 ?
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Hey guys, first post My biggest gripe with the S3 was the dim screen and unnatural colours especially the greyish white. I didn't buy it because of that. S4 seems to be a bit brighter and with better colour reproduction, only seen it on-line though. The screen on HTC One was really good, but seemed to be a bit dimmer than the One X, but I just tried it on a show floor so its hard to tell in that kind of lightning. Was a bit disappointing with the plain screen of Sony Z, maybe I looked at the demo version? I think that the white-magic stuff on my Sony Xperia P is really good for cranking up the brightness when needed, strange that Sony abandoned that tech. S4 with the screen of HTC One would be the best combo, but you could probably get used to Amoled?
The S4 seems brighter than the S3. Not sure if it's fair to compare brightness on Amoled with Lcd due to Amoleds black levels. quote from laptopmag (OT annoying Captcha):
"In addition to the Galaxy S4’s system performance, we also managed to benchmark the brightness level of the smartphone’s 5-inch 1920 x 1080-pixel Super AMOLED display. One of the biggest complaints we had regarding the S III was how dim its display was at just 213 lux. The Galaxy S4 improves upon that number, topping out at 258 lux. That’s brighter than the Galaxy S III, as well as the Galaxy Note II’s 240 lux rating. Unfortunately, the Galaxy S4 still falls behind the smartphone category average of 299 lux. The Google Nexus 4, meanwhile, came in with an average 399 lux."
Steambox said:
Hey guys, first post My biggest gripe with the S3 was the dim screen and unnatural colours especially the greyish white. I didn't buy it because of that. S4 seems to be a bit brighter and with better colour reproduction, only seen it on-line though. The screen on HTC One was really good, but seemed to be a bit dimmer than the One X, but I just tried it on a show floor so its hard to tell in that kind of lightning. Was a bit disappointing with the plain screen of Sony Z, maybe I looked at the demo version? I think that the white-magic stuff on my Sony Xperia P is really good for cranking up the brightness when needed, strange that Sony abandoned that tech. S4 with the screen of HTC One would be the best combo, but you could probably get used to Amoled?
The S4 seems brighter than the S3. Not sure if it's fair to compare brightness on Amoled with Lcd due to Amoleds black levels. quote from laptopmag (OT annoying Captcha):
"In addition to the Galaxy S4’s system performance, we also managed to benchmark the brightness level of the smartphone’s 5-inch 1920 x 1080-pixel Super AMOLED display. One of the biggest complaints we had regarding the S III was how dim its display was at just 213 lux. The Galaxy S4 improves upon that number, topping out at 258 lux. That’s brighter than the Galaxy S III, as well as the Galaxy Note II’s 240 lux rating. Unfortunately, the Galaxy S4 still falls behind the smartphone category average of 299 lux. The Google Nexus 4, meanwhile, came in with an average 399 lux."
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Wellcome to XDA,:good: so s4 nearly %10 brighterthan note 2?
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Nice cherry picking, but obviously the HTC One had power saving mode on, he turned it off like 30 seconds later:
bazzag said:
Nice cherry picking, but obviously the HTC One had power saving mode on, he turned it off like 30 seconds later:
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what do you mean
cihanleanne said:
so s4 is even darker tah s3 ?
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in some comparison unfortunately yeah
S4 is even darker than S3 !!!
u can check it here
left u can see S4 demo and right S4 premium in unpacked 2013
x102x96x said:
u can check it here
left u can see S4 demo and right S4 premium in unpacked 2013
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thanks has anybody had hands on
cihanleanne said:
Wellcome to XDA,:good: so s4 nearly %10 brighterthan note 2?
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Tks! Looks like that. I saw that Cnet wrote a pieace about the S4 display, seams promising. I Can't link so i paste it below:
"Screen specs point to more natural-looking colors in the Samsung Galaxy S4 and other future Samsung phones
If you're the type of person who cares about these things, you'll be happy to know that a screen expert gives the Samsung Galaxy S4 kudos so far.
In particular, Ray Soneira, president of display analysis and software calibration company DisplayMate, takes it as a good sign that Samsung includes something called a CIE Chromaticity Diagram and grayscale for the GS4's adaptive screen settings.
The bottom line? If the Galaxy S4 has extensive color, white point, and display calibration adjustments, it means that Samsung's phones can back away from the oversaturated, candied colors they often get due to the AMOLED screen technology.
The varied spectrum indicates that whites could also look less blue than they have in the past, and more naturally pristine.
My colleague, CNET TV reviewer David Katzmaier, himself a screen fanatic, recently spent a lot of time playing with the settings on a Galaxy Note 2 and has some great insight of his own, including how to adjust settings to make colors more natural.
Samsung Galaxy S4 adapt display options Various adjustment modes could mean that colors look less oversaturated than in the past.
It's still the early days when it comes to actual display performance, both indoors and outdoors, and Samsung screens, like on the Galaxy S3, are often so reflective they're hard to read outdoors. But good changes could be coming soon.
Note: CNET uses DisplayMate software in lab tests."
It is decent in bright sunlight...seems better than my s3 but I'll try a side by side comparison later
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It is decent in bright sunlight...seems better than my s3 but I'll try a side by side comparison later
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that would be great
has anybody had chance to play with galaxy S4?
Honestly don't know why people complain so much about the phone's brightness, its not that bad. And in regards to that whole auto-adjust stuff, well you can turn it off and just put it on max brightness if need be. On max brightness its plenty bright.

[INFO] Hardware list for Find 5

https://git.ngvincent.com/projects/oppo-x909-cm10/wiki/Device-documentation
There may be some errors on that list. Feel free to point them out
One major thing to find, is the display manufacturer.
The display driver should be orise, but I haven't nailed down the panel itself
paperWastage said:
https://git.ngvincent.com/projects/oppo-x909-cm10/wiki/Device-documentation
There may be some errors on that list. Feel free to point them out
One major thing to find, is the display manufacturer.
The display driver should be orise, but I haven't nailed down the panel itself
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I believe OPPO said the screen is made by JDI
I suspect it's this one...
CARL AT OPPO FORUMS HAS CONFIRMED DISPLAY IS MADE BY JDI - SORRY FOR THE MISINFORMATION THAT I FOUND ON THE INTERNET SAYING THEY WERE MADE BY LG
JDI (Japan Display Inc.) is going beyond tech demonstrators with its announcement of impending mass production of a 5-inch full-HD, 1,080 x 1,920 display with 443 PPI. In a joint venture with Hitachi, Sony, and Toshiba, JDI will produce TFT-LCD modules utilizing LTPS (Low-Temperature Poly-Silicon) and IPS (In-Plane Switching) technology to manufacture screens displaying approximately 2.3 times more information than currently possible on 720 HD (720 x 1,280) display screens. The results will include very high contrast, wide viewing angles, and high luminance with minimal color-shift.
Sharp Corporation has begun production of its own 5-inch full-HD (1,080 x 1,920 pixels) LCD displays for smartphones employing CG-Silicon (Continuous-Grain Silicon) technology along with a new pixel design. CG-Silicon allows for fewer layers, and increases manufacturing yield. Another Sharp advantage is their 5-inch screens can operate at lower power consumption levels as compared to other 5-inch displays. At 443 PPI the Sharp panels provide as many pixels on a 5-inch screen as found on full-HD TV displays, as also does the JDI panel. Manufacturing has already started in Japan, and Sharp will ramp up volume in October 2012. It should be noted that Sharp makes the 5-inch screen for Apple’s most recent iPhone 5, with only 326 PPI.
LG will provide display screens for the Chinese company Oppo, which announced the Oppo Find 5 smartphone. The announcement indicated 440 PPI, but that is easily accounted for as a rounding error in PPI calculators, and should be equivalent to the Sharp and JDI displays; all three of which offer a PPI count that provides a 35% pixel density improvement over Apple’s so-called “retina display”. The new LG display screens will include AH-IPS(Advanced High Performance In-Plane Switching) to provide wide viewing angles, excellent accuracy in expression of color palettes, and rapid response to touch inputs.
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However, a more recent press release from JDI regarding display prototypes for vehicles suggests that a WhiteMagic display could be inbound. It talks of a 5-inch 1080p display with 438 PPI and “low power consumption that is approximately 50% less by utilizing an RGBW pixel structure”. This display also includes an “integrated touch function (without cover glass)”, probably similar to Sony’s sensor-on-lens touch screen technology.
As a reminder, a WhiteMagic display has the red, green blue and white (RGBW) sub pixels aligned horizontally. The additional white sub-pixel significantly increases display brightness compared to normal LCD and OLED screens. The technology can be used to double the brightness or to save 50% of the backlight power, as suggested by the JDI press release. There’s no guarantee WhiteMagic will appear in this 5-inch 1080p display, but it looks like the technology is there if Sony wants to use it.
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The Chinese company Oppo, released the Oppo Finder earlier this year, claiming the title of “world’s thinnest smartphone” with a thickness of only 6.65mm at its thinnest point, and 7.1mm at its thickest part. The iPhone 5 measures 7.6mm thick.
Oppo-Ration Apple Slicer
Oppo now says it will bring the Oppo Find 5 to consumers with a 5-inch, 1,080p, 441 PPI display, at a resolution of 1,920 x 1,080, in that same 6.65mm form-factor. It seems quite likely the Oppo Find 5 display will be made by LG. Apple should be wincing right about now, and not only because of the display. The other Oppo Find 5 specifications could slice Apple to the core.
Full specifications, pricing, and a release date have not been announced.
Specification Oppo-Rations
5-Inch, 441 PPI, 1,920 x 1,080 Resolution, AH-IPS Display Screen
6.65 Millimeters Thick
Qualcomm Quad-Core Snapdragon S4 Pro Processor
Android 4.1 Jelly Bean
2,500 mAh Non-Removable Battery
2 GB of RAM
12 MP Rear Camera
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http://www.j-display.com/english/index.html
Japan Display Inc an LG created most displays for Iphone 5. They have also created displays for other phones in the past along with many other phones.
If you look iPhone 5 Scratch Test With Knife and Keys on Video you surely think that new iPhone have no shortages. But it is not true. There is an iPhone 5 shortage as a result of in-cell display. Let’s check out what we found. According to many news iPhone 5 has been outstripping supply because of a shortage of the in-cell display units utilized in the new phone.
The new iPhone utilizes in-cell screen technologies, which rolls with each other the display and touch-sensitive elements of the screen in order to make it thinner. These displays, though, tend to be more labor-intensive to make. Which means the problem.
At first Apple was using LG Display Co. and Japan Display Inc. to create the new four-inch screens. To make sure manufacturing remained high, though, Apple drafted in the help of Sharp to produce more displays.
Based on reliable resources, however, Sharp can not meet demand. Reports claim that the company struggled to fix problems in the screens-the knock-on result being delayed deliveries of IPhone's and less stock to offer to consumers.
Of course, this really is all based on analyst reports and not cold, hard numbers from Apple itself-so it is best taken with a pinch of salt. And, uh, a very good reason for selling out of phones may be the fact that they sold 5 million of the things, instead of, you know, having minor provider issues.
In any case, no doubt iPhone 5 shortage with in-cell display it’s a issue Apple would like to fix soon. For the time being, you can at the least now reserve an iPhone 5 for in-store pick-up, so at least you will not have to wait in line.
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News Release
October 4, 2012
Japan Display to Start Mass Production of Full-HD LCD Modules for Smartphones
- 5.0-inch module with 1080x1920 pixels 443ppi for high information content -
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Tokyo, October 4, 2012. Japan Display Inc. (JDI), a leader of LCD technologies, announced today that it will start mass-production shipment of 5.0-inch full-HD (1080x1920 pixels) TFT-LCD modules for smartphone applications this October.
Today, mobile information devices, such as smartphones, are increasingly more sophisticated and functional. As a result, compact-size displays are required which are able to show a large amount of information.
JDI is developing LCD modules to meet these growing requirements, based on its advanced core technologies, such as low-temperature poly-silicon (LTPS) for high resolution, in-plane switching (IPS) for wide viewing angle performance, and thinner backlight design for compact size, among others.
The features and benefits of JDI's latest module include:
1) High resolution to display a large amount of information
The 5.0-inch full-HD, 443 ppi* module is able to display approximately 2.3 times more information as compared to 720HD (720x1280 pixels).
2) Wide viewing angle and high contrast for fine and beautiful pictures
IPS technology enables wide viewing angle performance and high contrast, with minimal color shift-and along with the module’s high luminance (500cd/m2)-contributes to finer and more beautiful pictures.
3) Large display area, slim, and compact-size LCD module
The thinner LCD module (1.4mm), combined with its narrow frame (1.2mm), allows for compact smartphone design.
This new product is well-suited for high-end mobile smartphones designed to display a large amount of information. With this new product introduction JDI continues to demonstrate its leadership in the global small-size, full-HD resolution LCD module market.
JDI will demonstrate this product in booth #2701 at FPD International 2012, October 31 through November 2, 2012, in Yokohama, Japan.
*ppi is an abbreviation for pixels per inch
Module Specifications
Display mode Transmissive IPS
NTSC ratio 71%
Contrast ratio 1000:1(typical)
Viewing angle > 160 degrees, top/bottom and left/right(with CR>100:1)
Screen size 5.0-inch (12.6cm) diagonal
Number of pixels 1080xRGB x 1920 (full-HD)
Resolution 443ppi
Luminance 500cd/m2 (typical)
Dimensions 64.3㎜ (width) x 118.8㎜ (height) x 1.4㎜ (thickness)
Information in the press releases, including product prices and specifications, content of services and contact information, is current on the date of the press announcement,but is subject to change without prior notice.
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http://micgadget.com/31865/oppo-find-5-now-official-5-inch-1080p-441ppi-display-quad-core-and-super-slow-motion-filming-video/
Oppo Find 5 Now Official: 5-inch 1080p 441ppi Display, Quad Core and Super Slow Motion Filming (Video)
[UPDATE] OPPO unveiled the Oppo Find 5, the company latest entry in the high-end smartphone territory. The Find 5 most striking feature is the 1080p LCD display that boasts an amazing 441ppi pixel density. That’s the same resolution and pixel density as the display of the HTC Droid DNA/Butterfly. Similar to the Xiaomi Mi2 launch this summer, OPPO’s launch was held in the 798 arts district in Beijing. The event, which took place at a art center, included more than 500 attendees. We attended the launch event, and got up a close look with the new full HD phablet device. It was a nobby launch event that was quite impressive, the Chinese handset maker seem to has an ambitions to become a recognized player in the international market…
OPPO newest flagship the Find 5 packs some of the best specifications, starting with a powerful Snapdragon S4 Pro quad-core chip clocked at 1.5GHz and 2GB of RAM. The 5-inch touch screen display has a 1920 x 1080 resolution which is an AH-IPS LCD panel manufactured by LG. The rear shooter of the Find 5 is fitted with a 13MP sensor, while the front camera packs 1.9MP. The stacked CMOS sensor delivers F/2.2 aperture, with 4-layer coating lens and blue glass filters. It can record videos and snap photos in HDR mode at the same time. Find 5 is the first smartphone in the world with this ability generate by hardware. It only comes with 16GB storage with no option to expand via an microSD card. The battery is a 2500mAh unit, which is adequate, but seem less for a 5-inch device.
Media capabilities on OPPO Find 5 are enhanced by the Dolby 3D surround and Dirac HD, a high-end audio system that has never been integrated on a mobile device before. Only companies such as Rolls Royce, Bentley, BMW, offer this type of technology. And best of all, the Find 5’s stock earbuds are fine-tuned for Dirac audio system. The new phone also comes with NFC, gently touching two phones will pair them in less than a tenth of a second, 50 times faster than Bluetooth pairing. The SmartTags, a small label with built-in-chip, will also add simplicity and convenience for user to activate any application with preset. Find 5 also supports Wi-Fi Display and DLNA, two functionality that allow projecting screen contents onto HDTV wirelessly.
OPPO Find 5 is compatible with the following networks: UMTS/HSDPA/HSUPA/HSPA+/HSPA+42 (850, 1700, 1900, 2100MHz), GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900MHz). Too bad there is no 4G LTE. It will launch in early 2013 across select markets. Judging from the existence of the US site, we can speculate that the OPPO Find 5 will sell for $499 ( contract free, 16GB version) in the United States. In China, the device is slated to go for 2,998 yuan (about $480). We’ll keep you posted as soon as we find out more.
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I think that oppo have now the JDI display (best quality for good reviews and market development) In future is possible to switch for LG displays. All phone brands (Lg ,HTC ,Samsung) after 3-6 months, the production quality and price drops for a expensive phone.... only the profit remains the same
http://www.oppoforums.com/threads/oppo-find-5-reviews.555/page-8#post-19785
reading between the lines, probably JDI
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I spent over an freakin hour last night trying to figure out what Display this phone had, and Carl had told us long ago its a JDI Display
I must have missed the thread on www.oppoforums.com when it was posted. Their was a lot of info on the web I found while looking, saying that it was made by LG though?
If Carl said its JDI then that's what it is. Anyways, I did find some really interesting info on JDI though and their pixel layouts, along with the way they do their arrangements. They are doing some pretty interesting things I was unaware of, I don't think have ever heard of JDI until last night.
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I spent over an freakin hour last night trying to figure out what Display this phone had, and Carl had told us long ago its a JDI Display
I must have missed the thread on www.oppoforums.com when it was posted. Their was a lot of info on the web I found while looking, saying that it was made by LG though?
If Carl said its JDI then that's what it is. Anyways, I did find some really interesting info on JDI though and their pixel layouts, along with the way they do their arrangements. They are doing some pretty interesting things I was unaware of, I don't think have ever heard of JDI until last night.
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Never heard of jdi either. They are most definitely going interesting things
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drvsbsm said:
I spent over an freakin hour last night trying to figure out what Display this phone had, and Carl had told us long ago its a JDI Display
I must have missed the thread on www.oppoforums.com when it was posted. Their was a lot of info on the web I found while looking, saying that it was made by LG though?
If Carl said its JDI then that's what it is. Anyways, I did find some really interesting info on JDI though and their pixel layouts, along with the way they do their arrangements. They are doing some pretty interesting things I was unaware of, I don't think have ever heard of JDI until last night.
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if you find any datasheet on the display, care to share it? (need to find a datasheet for the display and the Orise display controller, to play with gamma and other values in the kernel)
I got some time to spare soon, as soon as I finish this test wont take long 70 min timer. I will dive in.

[ LEAK/Discussion ] Xperia Z2 Tablet Specifications/Press Renders

Xperia Z2 Tablet / Sony SGP521 Castor Tab coming soon
As per @Evleaks, Sony Xperia Z2 Tablet Specifications are like this, it will feature Snapdragon 800 SoC 2.3 GHz quad core processor, 10.1" screen display with 1920x1200 resolution Triluminos for Mobile, 3GB RAM, 16 GB internal storage with external SD card slot, 8MP Rear cam and 2 MP front cam, 6000mAh battery, 6.4mm slim almost equal to Xperia Z Ultra, IP waterproof ratings and running android 4.4.2 KitKat firmware.
Via - http://www.xperiaguide.com/2014/02/17/sony-xperia-z2-tablet-specifications-leaked-s800-10-1-hd-screen-3gb-ram-16gb-internal-storage-6000mah-battery-8mp-rear-cam/
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[ UPDATE - 18 Feb ] New Press Renders of Xperia Z2 Tablet and Pics have been leaked.
New Xperia Z2 Tablet press render pics and specifications have been leaked by @GadgetLeaks, stating Xperia Z2 Tablet weighs 426 grams for Wi-Fi version and 439 grams for LTE model. Exact dimension of Xperia Z2 Tablet is 266 x 172 x 6.4 mm.
via - http://www.xperiaguide.com/2014/02/18/xperia-z2-tablet-press-render-pics-leaked/
And now he leaks the image as well.
https://twitter.com/evleaks/status/435532946645061632/photo/1
meh, was hoping for something better, rather disappointed.
maybe it will start off cheaper now compared to the outrageous $500 as the first one originally was.
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maybe it will start off cheaper now compared to the outrageous $500 as the first one originally was.
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It is the same price, if not lower, than their direct counterparts from other companies. The iPad was costing $100 more at the time of the release.
Also, more supposed specs:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...ia-tablet-z2-press-renders-leak-onto-twitter/
WiFi: 426g, LTE: 439g. Both lighter than the iPad Air
Dimensions: 266 x 172 x 6.4mm (Except for thickness, which is less than the actual model), has the same exact dimensions as our model.
Considering they follow the Z1 design (Magnetic charger, Aluminium borders), it's impressive that they did all of that, but with the same battery size.
so... because the overpriced ipad was overpriced, that means it was perfectly acceptable for sony to overprice theirs? lol
I wonder why sony just sold off their computer business? and soon their tv business as well? maybe b/c they overpriced their products and hardly anyone bought them?
I've got a tablet z and it's the best one I've owned, I just hope the z2 brings a good kitkat rom as everything for the Z after the original 4.1.2 has been ****e!
Let's face it anything without Apple has to be f=good anyway, I'd pay a premium just to avoid it.
I don't think 500 bucks for a premium device is too much. Sometimes, and with some companies, they are too overpriced, but you pay for what you get.
The iPhone, for example, is a bit overpriced, but it is what you get: A premium device.
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And now he leaks the image as well.
https://twitter.com/evleaks/status/435532946645061632/photo/1
meh, was hoping for something better, rather disappointed.
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check OP for more pics..!
texterted said:
I've got a tablet z and it's the best one I've owned, I just hope the z2 brings a good kitkat rom as everything for the Z after the original 4.1.2 has been ****e!
Let's face it anything without Apple has to be f=good anyway, I'd pay a premium just to avoid it.
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Sony D6503 Aka Sirius and Xperia Z2 Tablet currently both are running 17.1.A.0.XXX KitKat firmware and same features will come on Z2 Tablet hopefully which we saw in D6503 firmware leak
I wouldn't be too happy with the headphone port on the bottom edge.
I was hoping for better screen resolution.
It looks cool but i might skip it as i just bought the tablet z 3 months ago and the Z2 doesn't seem to be THAT much of an impovement
But i do hope we get kit kat with all the features on the tablet Z
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i thought the original z tablet was a triluminos display one ???
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i thought the original z tablet was a triluminos display one ???
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Nop. It was first launched in mobile devices with Z Ultra. We "just" have a IPS screen, which was probably the best Xperia screen Sony has ever made.
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Nop. It was first launched in mobile devices with Z Ultra. We "just" have a IPS screen, which was probably the best Xperia screen Sony has ever made.
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But is the IPS good a triluminos display ? As they both am LCD if i am not mistaken ?
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But is the IPS good a triluminos display ? As they both am LCD if i am not mistaken ?
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IPS is a LCD type. Triluminos is a LCD modification. Something to do with quantum dots and white backlight replaced by a blue one. It adds more colors to the range that LCD generally supports.
IPS and Triluminos can coexist. Such as with the Z1 Compact and Z Ultra, for example.
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I like the specs. 1920x1200 is actually my preference. I got a Asus TF701 which has 2592х1944 resolution. I don't see added benefits really. My movies are at most 1080 anyway. The higher resolution drains the battery more and slows the device down. I like the light weight and thinness even at the expense of the battery capacity. I don't mind charging more frequently to exchange for light weight. My TF701 makes me wrist sore. Having Kitkat is an added bonus. Even Sony decided not to do any Android upgrade, I'd be happy. Kitkat made my $160 Chinese 8.9" iFive X2 tablet fly as compared to the previous JB 4.2.2 firmware. I totally can be happy enough with Kitkat only.
If it's $500 or less, I'll order it as soon as it comes out.
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I like the specs. 1920x1200 is actually my preference. I got a Asus TF701 which has 2592х1944 resolution. I don't see added benefits really. My movies are at most 1080 anyway. The higher resolution drains the battery more and slows the device down. I like the light weight and thinness even at the expense of the battery capacity. I don't mind charging more frequently to exchange for light weight. My TF701 makes me wrist sore. Having Kitkat is an added bonus. Even Sony decided not to do any Android upgrade, I'd be happy. Kitkat made my $160 Chinese 8.9" iFive X2 tablet fly as compared to the previous JB 4.2.2 firmware. I totally can be happy enough with Kitkat only.
If it's $500 or less, I'll order it as soon as it comes out.
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The added benefits of higher display panels is that they are easier on the eyes Especially if you am into reading books or PDF that's where the extra pixels shine
They have a new one! Dammit! >:|:banghead:
Very disappointed with the screen resolution, needs to be higher for a premium tablet.
Will skip this one

Xperia Z2 vs. LG G3

With the LG G3 just around the corner, the decision for which handset to choose has been made so much tougher. I'm wondering where current or prospective Z2 owners stand. Personally i've been waiting for the Z2 in my country for quite some time now but after seeing the video and press renders of the potential LG G3, I have to say my mind has been swayed in LG's direction. Thoughts?
I just love my z2 and won't be going for g3 in any case
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I'm not much moved by the g3 by any means, though it is a gorgeous device... Im still getting the z2 in 2 weeks
I think lg gonna suffer in what matters the most to me, that is battery life. I mean, its fricking huge 5.5inch with 2k resolution and less battery capacity than g2. And not like you will notice more ppi cause we already have more than enough. We will see, but numbers doesnt sound to well
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With the LG G3 just around the corner, the decision for which handset to choose has been made so much tougher. I'm wondering where current or prospective Z2 owners stand. Personally i've been waiting for the Z2 in my country for quite some time now but after seeing the video and press renders of the potential LG G3, I have to say my mind has been swayed in LG's direction. Thoughts?
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I too am on the same boat with you, though it has been released some weeks ago here in Sweden, I haven't yet decided (the only concern is 16 Gb storage in Z2, am currently having htc OneX, 32 Gb, so it would be a great upgrade from many aspect, except the storage as it will turn out to a downgrade. I know there's external sd, but moving app data to that ext-sd is no longer supported in Android afaik) better to wait for G3 I think. If it also fails then Note4 can be the next alternative
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I hate screen size more than 5.3
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I think that:
Sony Xperia Z2 > LG G3
Areas where Sony wins:
+Build (aluminium vs plastic on G3)
+IP Rating (most likely G3 will not be water resistant)
+Front-facing speakers
+Screen size (5.2 inch seems plenty, 5.5 is a phablet)
+Sony's skin (LG has one of the uggliest ones on the market)
+20.7MP camera (as shown in many reviews it is one of the best if not the best in the world)
Areas where LG G3 wins:
+ Snapdragon 805 (vs 801 on Sony, Has anyone even got close to using up the potential of 801 yet? [maybe 4k recording])
but of course we want know for sure until the device is officially unveiled.
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I think that:
Sony Xperia Z2 > LG G3
Areas where Sony wins:
+Build (aluminium vs plastic on G3)
+IP Rating (most likely G3 will not be water resistant)
+Front-facing speakers
+Screen size (5.2 inch seems plenty, 5.5 is a phablet)
+Sony's skin (LG has one of the uggliest ones on the market)
+20.7MP camera (as shown in many reviews it is one of the best if not the best in the world)
Areas where LG G3 wins:
+ Snapdragon 805 (vs 801 on Sony, Has anyone even got close to using up the potential of 801 yet? [maybe 4k recording])
but of course we want know for sure until the device is officially unveiled.
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I mostly agree but LG might have something up its sleeve I feel.Let's hope they come out with a great phone.Good competition is great for us consumers.
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paras said:
I mostly agree but LG might have something up its sleeve I feel.Let's hope they come out with a great phone.Good competition is great for us consumers.
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Let's see what the laser pointer on the back is for
But I do agree that every manufacturer should be bringing an exclusive feature to their phone as that motivates others to improve. I have tested the Galaxy S5 and the Z2 and currently am in the process of testing the HTC One M8 and for me Xperia Z2 is king. Each phone has features that I like though.
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Let's see what the laser pointer on the back is for
But I do agree that every manufacturer should be bringing an exclusive feature to their phone as that motivates others to improve. I have tested the Galaxy S5 and the Z2 and currently am in the process of testing the HTC One M8 and for me Xperia Z2 is king. Each phone has features that I like though.
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I hate Samsung and S5.Sold htc one m7 and loved it buy m8 doesn't have anything New so didn't go that way.Sony Xperia z2 has everything and it's a beast to say the least.
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The only downside of the z2 is it's size, it looks like the 5.5 inch G3 is the same size as the 5.3 inch Z2.
I agree, I would say that a lot of the decision would probably come down to one handed usability personally. If the dimensions of the handsets are the same, I would be swayed more to the one that has the better feel in hand. A better processor to future proof things is obviously an added benefit and OIS is something nice to have. These screen's are just pushing my boundaries though. I remember 2 years ago i said i would never go over 4.7" and then last year i'll never go over 5" with my Galaxy S4, and here we are pushing 5.2 and now possibly 5.5? I don't think a phablet is what I want and could be the deciding factor. Side note: a lot of new reviews from today and yesterday are really praising the Z2. Decisions decisions.
coolmingli said:
The only downside of the z2 is it's size, it looks like the 5.5 inch G3 is the same size as the 5.3 inch Z2.
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HTC m8 is the same size as z2 but has only a 5 inch display..
Sent from my Xperia Z1
Jiyeon90 said:
HTC m8 is the same size as z2 but has only a 5 inch display..
Sent from my Xperia Z1
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Sony is actually taller and wider:
Sony Xperia Z2: 146.8 x 73.3 x 8.2 mm
HTC One M8: 146.4 x 70.6 x 9.4 mm
Because the HTC is more oval it also feels less thick than it actually is and it is a lot more comfortable in one hand. I have tested both and can say that when it comes to just the design the HTC is superior. Sony wins in most other aspects though
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coolmingli said:
The only downside of the z2 is it's size, it looks like the 5.5 inch G3 is the same size as the 5.3 inch Z2.
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Tbh I would rather have a slightly smaller screen and front-facing speakers
For me, 5.2 is really as big as you want in a phone. Anything bigger is heading into Phablet territory so they are 2 very different phones. You can always wait and newer better phones will always come along.
Ive always had Samsung for a while but the Z2 was good enough on paper to jump ship and its a great phone, no regrets. As others have said, great build quality and specs which we all know. If you want to continue waiting regarding the LG, may as well wait a little longer for the rumoured Note 4 which will be even better and they are more comparable given its screen size.
In an hour and a half we shall see what my next phone will be. All the leaks seem promising, this will be a tough choice. I think if the overall dimensions are the same and it has metal construction, it would be a no brainer to go for the LG.
Dimensions are already available, its just a little bigger than z2. Dont fancy even wider phone
Assuming the leaks are true, here's my pre-annoucement breakdown:
G3:
+ larger screen, similar sized body
+ QHD screen, although personally this is arguable the Z2 screen is pretty amazing.
+ OIS camera
+ possibly quicker focusing
Z2:
+ 3GB RAM
+ more traditional button placement
+ waterproof IP58
+ 20MP 1/2.3" sensor w/ f/2.0 lens
Unknowns:
- Battery life, Z2 has excellent battery life
- G3 build/materials (matters for some)
- Removable battery
- QHD resolution impact on performance
Who knows, LG may have some more surprises but that's just how I see things. On the screen side of things, I'll be interesting if it's a pentile screen, and honestly I've always loved high res displays but I'm wondering if QHD would look any different than FHD on a 5" screen. Also there are more to displays than just resolution, color reproduction, white balance, brightness etc etc should also be considered.
Even assuming the G3 is waterproof with a QHD display, metal build and a removable battery, I'd still prefer a Z2 for it's excellent, large size camera sensor, exceptional battery life, larger RAM, and sexy looks.
G3 is made of metal
Apparently has a removable battery and
is the same size as the Z2
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With the knock on thing, the power buttons placement is not going to be an issue either.
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and honestly I've always loved high res displays but I'm wondering if QHD would look any different than FHD on a 5" screen.
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Unless having bionic eyes, QHD is totally useless on screen smaller than 6". So, this is just a marketing argument.

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