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Today at Mobile World Congress, Texas Instruments Incorporated (TI) (NYSE: TXN) announced it will demonstrate an early look of the Android mobile platform in two forms: a prototype handset based on TI's OMAP850 processor that also includes TI's Wireless LAN (WLAN) and Bluetooth® wireless technology solutions, as well as an OMAP3430 processor-based Zoom Mobile Development Kit from Logic PD. Both demonstrations highlight the flexibility of the OMAP platform's multi-core architecture to deliver high-performance multimedia and sophisticated user interfaces (UI) on the Android platform.
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hi there! could someone from you guys owning a pharos give me/us please the original battery size? there is the possibility that it could fit into the diamond.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2376253&posted=1#post2376253
many thanks!
battery size
The measurments ar as follows :
36,5 x 54 x 5,5 mm
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hi! thanks for your answer!
greetings back to freising! (there's where my dad works)
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wird nicht nötig sein, die dimensionen stimmen nicht überein...
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In another round of press releases from the Korean technology company today, Samsung’s announcing the existence of their 1GHz dual-core chipset based on the ARM Cortex A9, being named by them the Orion. This is looking to be the official successor to the 1GHz single-core Hummingbird chipset (based on ARM Cortex A8) seen in their phones today as Samsung’s already expressed plans to introduce the successor to the Samsung Galaxy S smartphones sometime in 2011. I’d bet money that they’ll be equipped with these beasts.
What will the Orion bring, anyway? 1080p video decoding and encoding (playback and recording), an on-chip HDMI 1.3a interface, embedded GPS, and a triple display controller to work alongside that HDMI interface (meaning you could possibly use your phone while a video is playing in high definition through HDMI on your television).
It’s said that the Orion will deliver 5x the 3D performance over the previous generation from Samsung, but they didn’t go into specifics regarding the GPU they’ll be using. It’s also being designed on a 45nm low-power die, meaning battery life might not take a hit compared to the relatively weaker chipsets of today. The chipset should be shipping later this year to select manufacturers.
Samsung’s also expecting to ship 10 million Galaxy Tabs worldwide, according to the Wall Street Journal. That’s an ambitious goal up against the iPad, but who are we to say Samsung can’t meet it? They’re doing just as well as they said they would in the smartphone market with the Galaxy S, and while we can’t judge performance between two different markets, we won’t count them out at all. Read on for the full press details.
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Samsung Introduces High Performance, Low Power Dual CORTEXTM – A9 Application Processor for Mobile Devices
TAIPEI, Taiwan–(BUSINESS WIRE)–Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd., a world leader in advanced semiconductor solutions, today introduced its new 1GHz ARM® CORTEXTM A9-based dual-core application processor, codenamed Orion, for advanced mobile applications. Device OEM developers now have a powerful dual processor chip platform designed specifically to meet the needs of high-performance, low-power mobile applications including tablets, netbooks and smartphones. Samsung’s new processor will be demonstrated at the seventh annual Samsung Mobile Solutions Forum held here in Taiwan at the Westin Taipei Hotel.
“Consumers are demanding the full web experience without compromise while on the go,” said Dojun Rhee, vice president of Marketing, System LSI Division, Samsung Electronics. “Given this trend, mobile device designers need an application processor platform that delivers superb multimedia performance, fast CPU processing speed, and abundant memory bandwidth. Samsung’s newest dual core application processor chip is designed specifically to fulfill such stringent performance requirements while maintaining long battery life.”
Designed using Samsung’s 45 nanometer low-power process technology, Orion features a pair of 1GHz ARM Cortex A9 cores, each comes with a 32KB data cache and a 32KB instruction cache. Samsung also included a 1MB L2 cache to optimize CPU processing performance and provide fast context switching in a multi-tasking environment. In addition, the memory interface and bus architecture of Orion supports data intensive multimedia applications including full HD video playback and high speed 3D action games.
Samsung’s new application processor incorporates a rich portfolio of advanced multimedia features implemented by hardware accelerators, such as video encoder/decoder that supports 30fps video playback and recording at 1080P full HD resolution. Using an enhanced graphics processing unit (GPU), the new processors are capable of delivering 5 times the 3D graphics performance over the previous processor generation from Samsung.
For design flexibility and system BOM cost reduction, Orion integrates a set of interfaces commonly used in mobile devices to configure various peripheral functionalities. For example, with this processor, customers have the choice to use different types of storage including NAND flash, moviNANDTM, SSD or HDD providing both SATA, and eMMC interfaces. Customers can also choose their appropriate memory options including low power LPDDR2 or DDR3, which is commonly used for high performance. In addition, a global positioning system (GPS) receiver baseband processor is embedded in the processor to seamlessly support location based services (LBS), which is critical in many emerging mobile applications.
Orion features an onboard native triple display controller architecture that compliments multi-tasking operations in a multiple display environment. A mobile device using the Orion processor can simultaneously support two on-device display screens, while driving a third external display such as a TV or a monitor, via an on-chip HDMI 1.3a interface.
Orion is designed to support package-on-package (POP) with memory stacking to reduce the footprint. A derivative of Orion, which is housed in a standalone package with a 0.8mm ball pitch, is also available.
Samsung’s new dual-core application processor, Orion, will be available to select customers in the fourth quarter of 2010 and is scheduled for mass production in the first half of 2011.
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Good info, but I have never been a fan of Tabs, to me I can see their purpose and a big part of me sees them as a waist of money if I bought one. The battery life running that dual core processor is what I would like to see confirmed and not "assumed".
As much as I'd like one of these, I won't buy one until Samsung has real customer service and actually releases a GPS fix. We'll see what happens this month. Hopefully Samsung comes through so I can continue supporting them.
New processors generally come with more advanced power saving features, so the battery life might even be better
Good to see progress,
But is there really anything on Android market that utilises all that power?!
Theres scarcely any serious 3d games and not that much dev. work.
boodies said:
New processors generally come with more advanced power saving features, so the battery life might even be better
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I think power should be the main focus, not more power, unless they can accomplish both.. then bring on the power...
Allwinner T3 Quad Core vs. Intel SoFIA 3GR Quad Core
which one is better?
I am thinking about buying one of these devices. Where are the pros and cons? Which is faster, better?
Device 1: Joying
Device 2: Pumpkin
I can not decide.
Very good question.
The third new one is Ownice with unknown 4core A53 CPU. Later they will offer a 8Core A53.
Which one is the fastest ???
Anyone make a benchmark ???
In one month comes the 8core. I have write with ownice...
But general we need some benchmarks between all the new units !
A benchmark does not say much about the speed and the os. One sees only one number on the paper. Sorry for my Google english. I'am from germany...
Yes, iam too. Also geht auch deutsch.
He he... Wie ich schon auf englisch versucht habe zu schreiben, ein benchmark sagt nicht viel über die gefühlte Geschwindigkeit aus. Es hat sich viel mit dem ROM zu tun. So jetzt aber weiter auf englisch, sonst verstehen es die meisten anderen ja nicht
I have wrote you a private Message. Thats the better way for conversation in german.
Why do these threads never get updated? Isn't there general benchmarks they run on phones that can be run on these units?
I mean why is there such a lack of centralized information on all of this.
Sorry, i dont know...
Hallo
was meint ihr welcher von den CPU ist der bessere ?
* CPU: Intel SoFIA 3GR , 4 Cores
oder
* CPU: MT3562 Octa Core, ARM Cortex-A53, 1.5-1.8GHz
oder
* CPU: Allwinner T3 Quad Core
Hello
What do you think which of the CPU is the better?
* CPU: Intel SoFIA 3GR , 4 Cores
or
* CPU: MT3562 Octa Core, ARM Cortex-A53, 1.5-1.8GHz
or
* CPU: Allwinner T3 Quad Core
DarkGenesis said:
gehe ich richtig davon aus dass ich hier auch in Deutsch schreiben kann?
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I don't think so. This forum is in English.
And double posts are typically not welcome in any forum...
The best benchmark or indicator is Google Maps after Cold start. The old RK3188 takes a lot of time to start it up. The hardest trial was to start a Shortcut for Google Maps. One klick to start route to home. Has it anyone tested ?
andi1203 said:
Allwinner T3 Quad Core vs. Intel SoFIA 3GR Quad Core
which one is better?
I am thinking about buying one of these devices. Where are the pros and cons? Which is faster, better?
Device 1: Joying
Device 2: Pumpkin
I can not decide.
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Allwinner CPU is complete and utter GARBAGE. Avoid it like the plague.
The Intel, being somewhat.... INTEL (even if it was joint venture with rockchip), actually has a lot of supporting open source code (such as full kernel source for an ASUS branded tablet using the same chip). That means that there is actually possibility of custom built kernels for it.
Others have mentioned a mediatek SoC with a non-existent part number. Likely the mediatek isn't terrible, but it also isn't a great chip, if it is what I suspect it is.
And forget about synthetic benchmarks like antutu. This kind of benchmark is ONLY valuable when comparing iterative changes within the SAME processor architecture, or SOFTWARE changes on the exact same hardware. And by "same processor architecture", I mean that it is valid to compare, for example, a Snapdragon 800 to an 801 or an 805, since these are iterative changes to the same design. These benchmarks are NOT EVEN VALID to compare different BRANDS of supposedly similar generation hardware (i.e., Mediatek vs Qualcomm).
They are CERTAINLY and UNQUESTIONABLY useless when comparing **ENTIRELY DIFFERENT** CPU architectures, such as ARM vs x86. ARM is RISC (reduced instruction set computing), x86 is CISC (complex instruction set computing). So when you look at the benchmarks like antutu, they are tailored for the RISC architecture, using the particular reduced instruction set available there.
BUT OF COURSE, the x86 has equivalents to those simplified instructions, but IN ADDITION, the x86 has a big heap of very complex instructions where it can do some very complex manipulations very efficiently -- but these complex instructions aren't tested in these benchmarks!!!!
So at the end of the day, even if the x86 shows a MUCH lower benchmark score (for instance, these SoFIA C3230RK's are benchmarking in the low 20,000's, yet my Nexus 6 benchmarks in the low 80,000's), this doesn't actually mean that the x86 is slower -- although the Nexus 6 really does have a kick-a$$ SoC. You simply CANNOT compare them in this manner.
Now its too late. I have the pumpkin unit with the allwinner quadcore.
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Allwinner CPU is complete and utter GARBAGE. Avoid it like the plague.
The Intel, being somewhat.... INTEL (even if it was joint venture with rockchip), actually has a lot of supporting open source code (such as full kernel source for an ASUS branded tablet using the same chip). That means that there is actually possibility of custom built kernels for it.
Others have mentioned a mediatek SoC with a non-existent part number. Likely the mediatek isn't terrible, but it also isn't a great chip, if it is what I suspect it is.
And forget about synthetic benchmarks like antutu. This kind of benchmark is ONLY valuable when comparing iterative changes within the SAME processor architecture, or SOFTWARE changes on the exact same hardware. And by "same processor architecture", I mean that it is valid to compare, for example, a Snapdragon 800 to an 801 or an 805, since these are iterative changes to the same design. These benchmarks are NOT EVEN VALID to compare different BRANDS of supposedly similar generation hardware (i.e., Mediatek vs Qualcomm).
They are CERTAINLY and UNQUESTIONABLY useless when comparing **ENTIRELY DIFFERENT** CPU architectures, such as ARM vs x86. ARM is RISC (reduced instruction set computing), x86 is CISC (complex instruction set computing). So when you look at the benchmarks like antutu, they are tailored for the RISC architecture, using the particular reduced instruction set available there.
BUT OF COURSE, the x86 has equivalents to those simplified instructions, but IN ADDITION, the x86 has a big heap of very complex instructions where it can do some very complex manipulations very efficiently -- but these complex instructions aren't tested in these benchmarks!!!!
So at the end of the day, even if the x86 shows a MUCH lower benchmark score (for instance, these SoFIA C3230RK's are benchmarking in the low 20,000's, yet my Nexus 6 benchmarks in the low 80,000's), this doesn't actually mean that the x86 is slower -- although the Nexus 6 really does have a kick-a$$ SoC. You simply CANNOT compare them in this manner.
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So the Intel SoFIA 3GR is the better from the 3 CPU? ? ?
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DarkGenesis said:
So the Intel SoFIA 3GR is the better from the 3 CPU? ? ?
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By FAR. Intel even provides BSP for the SoFIA units, and their Yocto project BSP is just plain old posted to their website! Compare that to GPL violating Chinese hardware vendors. Top of that, the SoFIA is considerably more powerful, and this is just a NO BRAIN choice.
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By FAR. Intel even provides BSP for the SoFIA units, and their Yocto project BSP is just plain old posted to their website! Compare that to GPL violating Chinese hardware vendors. Top of that, the SoFIA is considerably more powerful, and this is just a NO BRAIN choice.
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And the MT3562 Octa Core, ARM Cortex-A53, 1.5-1.8GHz CPU from the
http://www.ownice.com/Pro_Auto DVD GPS Navigation for 2din Universal_405.html
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DarkGenesis said:
And the MT3562 Octa Core, ARM Cortex-A53, 1.5-1.8GHz CPU from the
http://www.ownice.com/Pro_Auto DVD GPS Navigation for 2din Universal_405.html
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First, there is NO SUCH PART as MT3562.
So look at the one that is *closest* in spec to what they advertise, the MT6753 -- which has pretty dismal performance for an EIGHT CORE SoC. The thing isn't even CLOSE to twice as powerful even as garbage like the RK3188! Its about 20% higher on single core, and only 50% higher on multi-core. Given 20% higher single core performance and double the number of cores, it should be 140% higher on multi-core. So something is severely wrong there, like throttling right off the line to the point of multiple cores shutting down.
And make note of the fact that those 8 cores are A53's. NOT the high performance A57's that gave qualcomm problems with the SD810. A53's are ARM's reference HIGH EFFICIENCY cores, they're supposed to run slow and cool, and they're supposed to be bundled in big-little configuration with A57's or A72's. You run your low-demand software on the A53's, and when you need a burst of high performance, you switch over to the high performance cores.
Okay also der Intel SoFIA 3GR ist der beste der 3er
hast du mir vielleicht eine gute empfehlung für ein Radio mit Intel SoFIA 3GR?
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Okay so the Intel SoFIA 3GR is the best of the 3er
Did you perhaps give me a good recommendation for a radio with Intel SoFIA 3GR?
A friend of mine once suggested that I write a $0.99 Amazon Kindle book with a complete guide to Intel products because to the vast majority of people, they're super-confusing. I never did it, but I was going to call it "Crazy Lake" if I ever did.
Frankly, it's not hard to come across someone that sees two machines with Core i7 CPUs and things that the chips are equal, even if one is an ultrabook and one is a tower. After all, they're both called Core i7, right? Better yet, it's even more confusing if two machines say they have 11th-gen Core i7 CPUs. Intel makes it that way though.
Let's start with generations. Even this is way too complicated than it should be.
11th-generation:
Tiger Lake (10nm) (UP3, UP4, H35, H45)
Rocket Lake (14nm) (S, K, F)
10th-generation:
Ice Lake (10nm) (U, Y)
Comet Lake (14nm) (U, H, S, K, T, F)
Amber Lake (Y)
9th-generation:
Coffee Lake (14nm) (S, K, H, T, F)
8th-generation:
Whiskey Lake (14nm) (U)
Kaby Lake R (14nm) (U, G)
Amber Lake (14nm) (Y)
Coffee Lake (14nm) (S, K, H, T)
7th-generation:
Kaby Lake (14nm) (U, Y, S, K, HQ, HK, T)
6th-generation
Skylake (14nm) (U, Y, S, K, HQ, HK, T, R, EQ)
5th-generation:
Broadwell (14nm) (U, Y, S, K, HQ, HK, T, R, C, EQ)
4th-generation:
Haswell (22nm)
3rd-generation:
Ivy Bridge (22nm)
2nd-generation:
Sandy Bridge (32nm)
The further back you go, the more the letter suffixes stray from modern processor nomenclature. By the time I got down to fourth-gen 'Haswell' a lot of it was recognizable. Still, once you get past eighth-gen, everything from one generation is from the same family.
Those suffixes, however, tend to mean the same thing throughout the years, only changing recently.
Let's start with stuff that means the same throughout the years:
S - these are desktop CPUs, typically with a 65W TDP. Despite being referred to as 'S', they mostly don't actually have a suffix. For example, an Intel Core i5-10600 is from the Comet Lake-S family. If it actually has an 'S' on it, it's probably a special edition chip.
K - This means that it's unlocked for overclocking. On the desktop side, that means the TDP is higher, 95W through the ninth generation and 125W after that. Core i5-10600K would be unlocked. This can also be combined with other suffixes, such as HK.
F - If you see 'F' on a CPU SKU, that means that it doesn't have integrated graphics. You'll need discrete graphics for that PC. This can be a desktop or laptop part, and it can be combined with other suffixes like K and H.
T- Intel calls this "Power-optimized lifestyle", and it's basically a desktop chip that only comes in with a TDP at around 35W.
H - Intel defines this as "High performance optimized for mobile". Typically with a 45W TDP, or a 35W TDP in Tiger Lake-H35, these are for gaming laptops, creator laptops, and mobile workstations. HK is the same but unlocked for overclocking, and you'll notice that older generations used to have HQ, which meant that it was quad-core.
U - This is a common one if you're into laptops. It's what you'll find in standard laptops, ultrabooks, and so on. Historically, it comes in with a 15W TDP, although it can be beefed up. Intel has also been known to make 28W options.
Y - Made for fanless PCs, Y-series probably has the worst reputation of any class of Intel processor. It seems like the TDP goes up a little each year, with 4.5W, then 5W, then 7W. They also finally went quad-core with 10th-gen. Y-series was originally known as Core M with Broadwell. With Skylake, it expanded the lineup to Core m3, Core m5, and Core m7. But even after having such a bad reputation, Intel went into the Kaby Lake generation rebranding Core m5 and Core m7 to Core i5 and Core i7, making it harder to tell them apart from proper laptop parts.
G - This always refers to graphics on some level. With Kaby Lake G, Intel actually released what was basically a 7th-gen H-series chip but with AMD Radeon graphics right on the die.
UP3 and UP4: U-series and Y-series died off with 11th-gen 'Tiger Lake'. They're called UP3 and UP4 now, respectively.
New G: With Ice Lake, Intel stopped using U and Y suffixes entirely, even though with 10th-gen, they were still technically called U-series and Y-series. That letter was replaced by G1, G4, and G7, while the actual CPU power (U-series or Y-series) was indicated by the processor number, so Core i7-1065G7 was U-series and Core i7-1060G7 was Y-series. The new G-number stands for graphics power. With 10th-gen, that was Iris Plus Graphics. With 11th-gen, that's Iris Xe.
Even that changed a bit though. With Ice Lake, G1 meant that the processor used the old UHD Graphics. G4 and G7 used different levels of Iris Plus Graphics. With Tiger Lake, there's only G4 and G7 now, with G4 meaning UHD Graphics and G7 meaning Iris Xe. Moreover, Intel still has two levels of Iris Xe; it's just not indicated in the model number. You get 96EU graphics with a Core i7-1165G7 or a Core i7-1160G7, and you get 80EU graphics with a Core i5.
That about sums up the different Intel generations. It can be a bit hard to keep up. I remember when Google's Pixel Slate came out, and I read quite a few articles by people claiming it had the same specs as that generation's Surface Pro. But Google didn't publish which Core i5 and Core i7 it used. It turned out that it was Amber Lake Y, while Microsoft has always used a full U-series chip in the Surface Pro. It's worth knowing the difference between these things, even if it's just surface level. If you're buying a new PC, it's always worth remembering that not all chips are equal.
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