Allwinner T3 Quad Core vs. Intel SoFIA 3GR Quad Core
which one is better?
I am thinking about buying one of these devices. Where are the pros and cons? Which is faster, better?
Device 1: Joying
Device 2: Pumpkin
I can not decide.
Very good question.
The third new one is Ownice with unknown 4core A53 CPU. Later they will offer a 8Core A53.
Which one is the fastest ???
Anyone make a benchmark ???
In one month comes the 8core. I have write with ownice...
But general we need some benchmarks between all the new units !
A benchmark does not say much about the speed and the os. One sees only one number on the paper. Sorry for my Google english. I'am from germany...
Yes, iam too. Also geht auch deutsch.
He he... Wie ich schon auf englisch versucht habe zu schreiben, ein benchmark sagt nicht viel über die gefühlte Geschwindigkeit aus. Es hat sich viel mit dem ROM zu tun. So jetzt aber weiter auf englisch, sonst verstehen es die meisten anderen ja nicht
I have wrote you a private Message. Thats the better way for conversation in german.
Why do these threads never get updated? Isn't there general benchmarks they run on phones that can be run on these units?
I mean why is there such a lack of centralized information on all of this.
Sorry, i dont know...
Hallo
was meint ihr welcher von den CPU ist der bessere ?
* CPU: Intel SoFIA 3GR , 4 Cores
oder
* CPU: MT3562 Octa Core, ARM Cortex-A53, 1.5-1.8GHz
oder
* CPU: Allwinner T3 Quad Core
Hello
What do you think which of the CPU is the better?
* CPU: Intel SoFIA 3GR , 4 Cores
or
* CPU: MT3562 Octa Core, ARM Cortex-A53, 1.5-1.8GHz
or
* CPU: Allwinner T3 Quad Core
DarkGenesis said:
gehe ich richtig davon aus dass ich hier auch in Deutsch schreiben kann?
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I don't think so. This forum is in English.
And double posts are typically not welcome in any forum...
The best benchmark or indicator is Google Maps after Cold start. The old RK3188 takes a lot of time to start it up. The hardest trial was to start a Shortcut for Google Maps. One klick to start route to home. Has it anyone tested ?
andi1203 said:
Allwinner T3 Quad Core vs. Intel SoFIA 3GR Quad Core
which one is better?
I am thinking about buying one of these devices. Where are the pros and cons? Which is faster, better?
Device 1: Joying
Device 2: Pumpkin
I can not decide.
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Allwinner CPU is complete and utter GARBAGE. Avoid it like the plague.
The Intel, being somewhat.... INTEL (even if it was joint venture with rockchip), actually has a lot of supporting open source code (such as full kernel source for an ASUS branded tablet using the same chip). That means that there is actually possibility of custom built kernels for it.
Others have mentioned a mediatek SoC with a non-existent part number. Likely the mediatek isn't terrible, but it also isn't a great chip, if it is what I suspect it is.
And forget about synthetic benchmarks like antutu. This kind of benchmark is ONLY valuable when comparing iterative changes within the SAME processor architecture, or SOFTWARE changes on the exact same hardware. And by "same processor architecture", I mean that it is valid to compare, for example, a Snapdragon 800 to an 801 or an 805, since these are iterative changes to the same design. These benchmarks are NOT EVEN VALID to compare different BRANDS of supposedly similar generation hardware (i.e., Mediatek vs Qualcomm).
They are CERTAINLY and UNQUESTIONABLY useless when comparing **ENTIRELY DIFFERENT** CPU architectures, such as ARM vs x86. ARM is RISC (reduced instruction set computing), x86 is CISC (complex instruction set computing). So when you look at the benchmarks like antutu, they are tailored for the RISC architecture, using the particular reduced instruction set available there.
BUT OF COURSE, the x86 has equivalents to those simplified instructions, but IN ADDITION, the x86 has a big heap of very complex instructions where it can do some very complex manipulations very efficiently -- but these complex instructions aren't tested in these benchmarks!!!!
So at the end of the day, even if the x86 shows a MUCH lower benchmark score (for instance, these SoFIA C3230RK's are benchmarking in the low 20,000's, yet my Nexus 6 benchmarks in the low 80,000's), this doesn't actually mean that the x86 is slower -- although the Nexus 6 really does have a kick-a$$ SoC. You simply CANNOT compare them in this manner.
Now its too late. I have the pumpkin unit with the allwinner quadcore.
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Allwinner CPU is complete and utter GARBAGE. Avoid it like the plague.
The Intel, being somewhat.... INTEL (even if it was joint venture with rockchip), actually has a lot of supporting open source code (such as full kernel source for an ASUS branded tablet using the same chip). That means that there is actually possibility of custom built kernels for it.
Others have mentioned a mediatek SoC with a non-existent part number. Likely the mediatek isn't terrible, but it also isn't a great chip, if it is what I suspect it is.
And forget about synthetic benchmarks like antutu. This kind of benchmark is ONLY valuable when comparing iterative changes within the SAME processor architecture, or SOFTWARE changes on the exact same hardware. And by "same processor architecture", I mean that it is valid to compare, for example, a Snapdragon 800 to an 801 or an 805, since these are iterative changes to the same design. These benchmarks are NOT EVEN VALID to compare different BRANDS of supposedly similar generation hardware (i.e., Mediatek vs Qualcomm).
They are CERTAINLY and UNQUESTIONABLY useless when comparing **ENTIRELY DIFFERENT** CPU architectures, such as ARM vs x86. ARM is RISC (reduced instruction set computing), x86 is CISC (complex instruction set computing). So when you look at the benchmarks like antutu, they are tailored for the RISC architecture, using the particular reduced instruction set available there.
BUT OF COURSE, the x86 has equivalents to those simplified instructions, but IN ADDITION, the x86 has a big heap of very complex instructions where it can do some very complex manipulations very efficiently -- but these complex instructions aren't tested in these benchmarks!!!!
So at the end of the day, even if the x86 shows a MUCH lower benchmark score (for instance, these SoFIA C3230RK's are benchmarking in the low 20,000's, yet my Nexus 6 benchmarks in the low 80,000's), this doesn't actually mean that the x86 is slower -- although the Nexus 6 really does have a kick-a$$ SoC. You simply CANNOT compare them in this manner.
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So the Intel SoFIA 3GR is the better from the 3 CPU? ? ?
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So the Intel SoFIA 3GR is the better from the 3 CPU? ? ?
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By FAR. Intel even provides BSP for the SoFIA units, and their Yocto project BSP is just plain old posted to their website! Compare that to GPL violating Chinese hardware vendors. Top of that, the SoFIA is considerably more powerful, and this is just a NO BRAIN choice.
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By FAR. Intel even provides BSP for the SoFIA units, and their Yocto project BSP is just plain old posted to their website! Compare that to GPL violating Chinese hardware vendors. Top of that, the SoFIA is considerably more powerful, and this is just a NO BRAIN choice.
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And the MT3562 Octa Core, ARM Cortex-A53, 1.5-1.8GHz CPU from the
http://www.ownice.com/Pro_Auto DVD GPS Navigation for 2din Universal_405.html
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And the MT3562 Octa Core, ARM Cortex-A53, 1.5-1.8GHz CPU from the
http://www.ownice.com/Pro_Auto DVD GPS Navigation for 2din Universal_405.html
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First, there is NO SUCH PART as MT3562.
So look at the one that is *closest* in spec to what they advertise, the MT6753 -- which has pretty dismal performance for an EIGHT CORE SoC. The thing isn't even CLOSE to twice as powerful even as garbage like the RK3188! Its about 20% higher on single core, and only 50% higher on multi-core. Given 20% higher single core performance and double the number of cores, it should be 140% higher on multi-core. So something is severely wrong there, like throttling right off the line to the point of multiple cores shutting down.
And make note of the fact that those 8 cores are A53's. NOT the high performance A57's that gave qualcomm problems with the SD810. A53's are ARM's reference HIGH EFFICIENCY cores, they're supposed to run slow and cool, and they're supposed to be bundled in big-little configuration with A57's or A72's. You run your low-demand software on the A53's, and when you need a burst of high performance, you switch over to the high performance cores.
Okay also der Intel SoFIA 3GR ist der beste der 3er
hast du mir vielleicht eine gute empfehlung für ein Radio mit Intel SoFIA 3GR?
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Okay so the Intel SoFIA 3GR is the best of the 3er
Did you perhaps give me a good recommendation for a radio with Intel SoFIA 3GR?
Related
Is it true that Qualcomm's dual-core CPU's will be based on the older ARM Cortex-A8 architecture set instead of the modern Cortex-A9 which is being used by Apple's A5 Chip and Nvidia'S Tegra 2 ?
Source:
http://smartphonebenchmarks.com/for...msm8660-12ghz-dual-core-snapdragon-processor/
The hardware benchmarks on the dual-core MSM8x60 1.2 Ghz chip used by HTC Pyramid (Sensation,Doubleshot) and the Evo-3D do not look pretty good.
Source:
http://smartphonebenchmarks.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=258
Need a bit of clarification on this issue why they didn't choose the Cortex-A9 path.
Ok so I just read this report from Qualcomm explaining this issue:
http://www.qualcomm.de/documents/files/linley-report-dual-core-snapdragon.pdf
Apparently their architecture set is compatible with ARM's instruction architecture set and they claim its better than the A9.
"The superscalar CPU uses a 13-stage pipeline to generate faster clock speeds than competing products can achieve using ARM’s Cortex-A8 or Cortex-A9"
Having said that still not sure why the hardware benchmarks are not near the Cortex-A9 dual-core processors.
Adreno-220 is pretty good though compared to other GPU's.
mjehan said:
Apparently their architecture set is compatibily with ARM's instruction architecture set and they claim its better than the A9.
Having said that still not sure why the hardware benchmarks are not near the Cortex-A9 dual-core processors.
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Because bechmarks are meaningless and HTC have yet to put the work into fiddling them yet!
Quamcomm has been claiming that their design is better than ARM's Cortex A8 before but other than few special occasions, they are mostly equal at the same clock speed. Since MSM8x60 is also based on the identical cores, I don't see how it could be better than Cortex A9. In fact, Qualcomm is working on their own "equivalent to A9" version right now.
FYI, # of pipelines don't tell the whole story about the speed of CPUs. If not implemented well, it will simply cause longer stall delays. We have seen this in the old Pentium 4 architectures.
I think the 128bit fpu makes scorpion equivalent to a9 in floating points calculation
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Hello,
I bought this HU,
http://www.erisinwholesale.com/spec...es9015v-8-vw-android-444-car-dvd-gps-413.html
Now is my question does anyone now it and it´s special Rockchip?
Im pretty not sure what it is, maybe tomrrow I can make some Screenshots.
CPU-Z tells it is an RK3066 with 1,4GHz.
It´s Tuner come with an working AF function.
I think it is the cheaper Rockchip 3066 T variant, the normal dual core and quad core works between 1.6 and 1.8 GHZ, the cheaper dual and quad core T cpu only runs on 1.4 GHZ.
If i look on the specifications i see strange things, they advertise a dual core bud showing a quad core cpu.
Very confusing
I searched on wikpedia an I thought it could be this one.
The RK3188T is a lower-clocked version of the RK3188, with the CPU cores running at a maximum speed of 1.4 GHz instead of 1.6 GHz. The Mali-400MP4 GPU is also clocked at a lower speed. As of early 2014, many devices advertised as using a RK3188 with a maximum clock speed of 1.6 GHz actually have a RK3188T with clock speed limited to 1.4 GHz. Operating system ROMs specifically made for the RK3188 may not work correctly with a RK3188T.[39]
Maybe someone nows if it is upgradebale with the RK3188 SOM Card.
Hi,
I'm getting interested in a comparison. We discuss about the fact that 4-core Sofia 3GR units are faster than 8-core PX5 units. But are they? I really would like to know.
Some users say that benchmarks can't be compared, but those users are sometimes somewhat "biased" and it is not true. You can't compare several apps with each other. However, if the same app, Geekbench 4 in this case, does the exact same (software "rendering") graphical performance on one unit versus another unit, or do a Dijkstra calculation(1), you can definitely compare units.
Of course it is highly dependent in how optimized your Android version for your unit is to get the overall performance and user experience. We have already experienced that the @gtxaspec Custom Rom gives a smoother experience on the Sofia 3GR units than the Joying stock ROM. So a good ROM can improve a slower CPU, and vice versa.
And why Geekbench 4 instead of Antutu?
The Joying/FYT/SYU software on the Sofia 3GR "knows" Antutu. When it detects Antutu is running, it optimizes a number of things to get the highest scores. I don't want that, and I don't know how much "Antutu optimization" is taking place between the Sofia units and the PX5 units.
The Joying Sofia 3 GR units come in two flavours: The slightly older 5009 SOMs and the newer 6021 SOMs.
The 5009 SOM runs at 1040 MHz. The 6021 runs at 1200 MHz.
I have a 6021.
CPU scores: https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/8132254
GPU scores: https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/compute/2340164
I'm very interested in both the Single core as multi-core values. The single-core values determine how fast an single-threaded app runs on a single core, and a lot of apps, including the Joying ones, are still single-threaded.
And of course also in the multi-core scores when heavy loaded systems should perform, and where multi-threaded apps (the Google apps like Chrome, Google Maps, etc) will highly benefit. (Note that using more than 3 cores hardly improves a multi-threaded apps performance, but in a heavy loaded system a "few cores more" might be giving a difference there).
Again: I would really like to see GeekBench 4 scores for a 2GB PX5 Joying as well (and maybe also a 5009 Sofia 3GR). Not other apps scores (like Antutu) as you really can't compare those among each other.
The results will not say anything about user experience, buggy or great apps, or overall experience. It will simply compare "raw power".
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(1): The Dijkstra algorithm is a "shortest path" algorithm. The A-* algorithm is a parametrisable, optimzed form of the Dijkstra algorithm. The A-* algorithm is used in 9 out of 10 Navigation apps to (re)calculate the routes).
Comparing arm vs x86...its tough to get a good comparison, even using geekbench. You could compare app launch times etc...
Technically speaking, the type of ARM cores in the px5... Are "slower" than the x86 counterparts. I don't think you'll get any real world results from benchmarks.
The px5 is old too...as well as the Intel. At the time the x86 was a better contender.
Just thinking out loud.
gtxaspec said:
Comparing arm vs x86...its tough to get a good comparison, even using geekbench. You could compare app launch times etc...
Technically speaking, the type of ARM cores in the px5... Are "slower" than the x86 counterparts. I don't think you'll get any real world results from benchmarks.
The px5 is old too...as well as the Intel. At the time the x86 was a better contender.
Just thinking out loud.
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Yes, We had these discussions on the old Carjoying forum as well were especially lbdroid used these arguments. And that is exactly why I don't want to compare "real live experience" with simple raw power calculations.
Until now I never saw a real comparison on CPU/GPU level, so until now everybody is actually not knowing what he/she is talking about without delivering/comparing hard numbers (and I really don't want to offend you).
And don't forget: Also Intel, Rockchip and AMD are using benchmarks to compare them: Are they really that untrustworthy then? And differences between Pentiums, Atoms, Celerons, Xeons, Core i-3/i-5/i-7 are compared with each other despite big differences in their architecture, cores, production manufacturing optimizations, power/battery optimizations, clockspeeds, burst speeds, L1/L2/L3 cache and so on.
And yes: Finally in the end it only matters whether you run a light-weight linux or a bloaty Windows 10 on some light-weight hardware, but at least you know the underlying capabilities of the hardware.
So again: I really would like to see numbers, not meanings without numbers based on gut feeling and superficial specs sheets.
I have a very technical background and only trust numbers. Theories are not more than that, until they are proven in real life or by numbers.
(It is the same with bigger or smaller fans to cool the unit. Some users say the bigger, the better. From my technical background I say those big fans in those small confined spaces are useless, but also there I don't provide the numbers, so actually I don't know and nobody else knows and is only acting on gut feeling, until somebody really does the measurements)
surfer63 said:
Yes, We had these discussions on the old Carjoying forum as well were especially lbdroid used these arguments. And that is exactly why I don't want to compare "real live experience" with simple raw power calculations.
Until now I never saw a real comparison on CPU/GPU level, so until now everybody is actually not knowing what he/she is talking about without delivering/comparing hard numbers (and I really don't want to offend you).
And don't forget: Also Intel, Rockchip and AMD are using benchmarks to compare them: Are they really that untrustworthy then? And differences between Pentiums, Atoms, Celerons, Xeons, Core i-3/i-5/i-7 are compared with each other despite big differences in their architecture, cores, production manufacturing optimizations, power/battery optimizations, clockspeeds, burst speeds, L1/L2/L3 cache and so on.
And yes: Finally in the end it only matters whether you run a light-weight linux or a bloaty Windows 10 on some light-weight hardware, but at least you know the underlying capabilities of the hardware.
So again: I really would like to see numbers, not meanings without numbers based on gut feeling and superficial specs sheets.
I have a very technical background and only trust numbers. Theories are not more than that, until they are proven in real life or by numbers.
(It is the same with bigger or smaller fans to cool the unit. Some users say the bigger, the better. From my technical background I say those big fans in those small confined spaces are useless, but also there I don't provide the numbers, so actually I don't know and nobody else knows and is only acting on gut feeling, until somebody really does the measurements)
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That's ok, I don't ever get offended at all lol.
Isn't the "real live experience" what matters? For all we know, RK could have a bad processor design which doesn't push the cores to the intended performance specification from ARM...
So, now my question is...what is the best way to compare different processor architectures?
Aside from using "benchmarking" applications...?
I agree most companies do use benchmarks to compare, but aren't they typically within a similar or set computing architecture? Reminds me of PPC vs x86 back in the day .
Another issue that I seen is some benchmarking applications don't have native x86 libraries so on the Intel Android platform the benchmarking is run using Houdini which is an emulator and it's slow
gtxaspec said:
Isn't the "real live experience" what matters? For all we know, RK could have a bad processor design which doesn't push the cores to the intended performance specification from ARM...
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Of course that is what matters.
That is exactly why I want to know. Is the Joying FYT/SYU PX5 much slower, equal or faster than a Sofia 3GR. And if it is much slower: is it due to drivers, bad apps or the CPU? and if it is much faster, the same questions.
It is the same as saying the one car uses much more gas than the other and is much slower, until it turns out that car is pulling a caravan.
That is why I wan to know what the car does, although the real life experience might be different due to other factors.
I use Magic Earth as navigation app. I experience less optimization on Intel compared to ARM. So would it perform much better on an ARM PX5 compared to a Sofia 3GR?
After all: Android is by far the biggest and most optimized for ARM.
For that reason the PX5 could even be a much better option than the Sofia 3GR despite completely unproven arguments about being a better CPU versus "slow" A53 cores.
@surfer63 Now that you own both a Sofia 3GR and a PX5 unit, have you done the benchmarks? Which is better? And in your personal opinion, which one "feels" faster in everyday use?
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@surfer63 Now that you own both a Sofia 3GR and a PX5 unit, have you done the benchmarks? Which is better? And in your personal opinion, which one "feels" faster in everyday use?
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The PX5. It is definitely faster.
@ste2002 asked me to do Antutu benchmarks which I did: see here.
Hello want to change my aunt and I am in big trouble
My choices are an Android device based on MTK 8127A from ATOTO but that come with 2 GB of RAM or a regular one based on PX 5 which come with 4 GB of RAM.
I understand that the MTK car goes devices are a little bit rare
So what to choose:
ATOTO with a MTK PROCESSOR and 2 GB of RAM, pretty good support and rom updates or a PX 5 ?
Which is faster and more stable?
Thank you
sandibad said:
Hello want to change my aunt and I am in big trouble
My choices are an Android device based on MTK 8127A from ATOTO but that come with 2 GB of RAM or a regular one based on PX 5 which come with 4 GB of RAM.
I understand that the MTK car goes devices are a little bit rare
So what to choose:
ATOTO with a MTK PROCESSOR and 2 GB of RAM, pretty good support and rom updates or a PX 5 ?
Which is faster and more stable?
Thank you
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From what i have heard, MediaTek has better reputation than Rockchip. Which one is more stable / faster depends on how the SoC is integrated into the platform, how the Software Governers control the clock rate of the SoC. So this is difficult to answer strictly based on the SoC chip itself.
SoC Chip: MTK 8127A
Soc-based Quad-core 1.5Ghz Cortex A7 CPU
GPU ARM Mali-450 MP4 .
System Version: ATOTO AICE OS 9.4, which is developed & customized based on Android 6.0 Marshmallow OS;
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PX5
8 core ARM Cortex-A53 (ARMv8) 1,5 GHz
GPU owerVR SGX6110 jusqu'à 600 Mhz (OpenGL 3.2, OpenGL ES 1.1/2.0/3.1, OpenCL, DirectX9.3)
Android 8.0
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but there are also :
PX6 ! devices (but it's news no more info a this moment) :
Android 8,1
CPUX6 RK3399
2 Core cortex A72 2ghz
4 Core Cortex A53 1.5ghz
RAM: SAMSUNG DDR3 4 GB
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...-android-unit-cortex-a72-four-cortex-t3847427
And A72 Core is a lot better than A53, and A53 is a little bit better than the very old Cortex A7
I agree with @mum1989 that A72 and A53 CPU cores have much better specifications than the A7. If the applications you run on the head unit can take advantage of the ARMv8 instruction set or if the workload can be distributed across the cores, then PX6/PX6 SoC may well perform better than MTK8127A. On the other hand, in my day-to-day use of ATOTO A6 Pro which uses MTK8127A, I have never observed it to be slow or stutter or otherwise show signs that older A72 Core was limiting the end-user experience.
New user here.
The new Joying headunit with Snapdragon caught my attention, as it runs a Snapdragon 625 chip instead of the Unisoc UIS7862, and command a higher price (£55 diff) . So I did a little more research on their respective performance.
Against my expectation,, almost every metric and benchmark puts the UIS7862 ahead of the Snapdragon 625 by a decent margin, it is almost 4 years newer and on a more advanced 12nm node (instead of 14nm).
More to my suprise, Snapdragon 625 only supports upto 3GB ram, so the 4GB installed in the head unit would not be fully utilized.
Am I missing something blatantly obvious? Should I look at more than just specsheet and benchmark? I am very confused as to which version of the head unit would preform better in the long run. Which one would you choose?
Processor Comparison - Head 2 Head
UNISOC T610 vs Qualcomm Snapdragon 625 - Benchmarks, Tests and Comparisons
www.notebookcheck.net
Qualcomm MSM8953 Snapdragon 625 vs Unisoc UIS7862 Benchmarks, Specs, Performance Comparison and Differences - GadgetVersus
Comparison between Qualcomm MSM8953 Snapdragon 625 and Unisoc UIS7862 with the specifications of the processors, the number of cores, threads, cache memory, also the performance in benchmark platforms such as Geekbench, Passmark, Cinebench or AnTuTu.
gadgetversus.com
marcowong_7 said:
New user here.
The new Joying headunit with Snapdragon caught my attention, as it runs a Snapdragon 625 chip instead of the Unisoc UIS7862, and command a higher price (£55 diff) . So I did a little more research on their respective performance.
Against my expectation,, almost every metric and benchmark puts the UIS7862 ahead of the Snapdragon 625 by a decent margin, it is almost 4 years newer and on a more advanced 12nm node (instead of 14nm).
More to my suprise, Snapdragon 625 only supports upto 3GB ram, so the 4GB installed in the head unit would not be fully utilized.
Am I missing something blatantly obvious? Should I look at more than just specsheet and benchmark? I am very confused as to which version of the head unit would preform better in the long run. Which one would you choose?
Processor Comparison - Head 2 Head
UNISOC T610 vs Qualcomm Snapdragon 625 - Benchmarks, Tests and Comparisons
www.notebookcheck.net
Qualcomm MSM8953 Snapdragon 625 vs Unisoc UIS7862 Benchmarks, Specs, Performance Comparison and Differences - GadgetVersus
Comparison between Qualcomm MSM8953 Snapdragon 625 and Unisoc UIS7862 with the specifications of the processors, the number of cores, threads, cache memory, also the performance in benchmark platforms such as Geekbench, Passmark, Cinebench or AnTuTu.
gadgetversus.com
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Hi there.
I am currently going down the same rabbit hole, trying to get a new head unit for my 2011 Ford Escape. I even found the same comp pages that you listed in your post.
I have asked Joying support last week some of the same questions you asked here, and they didn't offer any useful details and their one-sentence emails about this topic are very cagey.
Mainly - why is the new Teyes-like UI that they have on the Snapdragon not available on the clearly superior 7862 units, and only on the slower Snapdragon 625? They didn't answer that. If the new UI was available on the 7862 I would not even be doing this research, really. That's the only thing that has me going back and forth. That, and the horrible USA LTE band support on the 7862.
The fact that the slower, less RAM 8xA-53 unit is more expensive than 2xA-75/6xA-55 unit is puzzling.
Saab Unleashed has excellent reviews of these units:
Snapdragon
7862
he reviews the 1920x1200 version, which is yet another dilemma for us
It seems that likes the Snapdragon version mainly for the UI, and in the comments he mentions that the performance is about the same as the 7862 version. Weird.
Since you wrote your post in November 2021 - have you decided on one of these? If so, what was your experience like?
I sold many 7862 unit without problem. Recommend 7862
klaymen2 said:
Hi there.
I am currently going down the same rabbit hole, trying to get a new head unit for my 2011 Ford Escape. I even found the same comp pages that you listed in your post.
I have asked Joying support last week some of the same questions you asked here, and they didn't offer any useful details and their one-sentence emails about this topic are very cagey.
Mainly - why is the new Teyes-like UI that they have on the Snapdragon not available on the clearly superior 7862 units, and only on the slower Snapdragon 625? They didn't answer that. If the new UI was available on the 7862 I would not even be doing this research, really. That's the only thing that has me going back and forth. That, and the horrible USA LTE band support on the 7862.
The fact that the slower, less RAM 8xA-53 unit is more expensive than 2xA-75/6xA-55 unit is puzzling.
Saab Unleashed has excellent reviews of these units:
Snapdragon
7862
he reviews the 1920x1200 version, which is yet another dilemma for us
It seems that likes the Snapdragon version mainly for the UI, and in the comments he mentions that the performance is about the same as the 7862 version. Weird.
Since you wrote your post in November 2021 - have you decided on one of these? If so, what was your experience like?
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I bought the UIS7862 version, it is running flawlessly with AGAMA launcher. My decision was simple: first, the Teyes launcher seems more buggy from other review, compare to AGAMA launcher which is tried and tested. Second, I am not paying 20% more for 25% less performance and 25% less usable ram. It just does not sit right with me.
I would personally avoid the 1200p as text and icons looks tiny on a higher res screen, which makes it very hard to use while driving.
marcowong_7 said:
I bought the UIS7862 version, it is running flawlessly with AGAMA launcher. My decision was simple: first, the Teyes launcher seems more buggy from other review, compare to AGAMA launcher which is tried and tested. Second, I am not paying 20% more for 25% less performance and 25% less usable ram. It just does not sit right with me.
I would personally avoid the 1200p as text and icons looks tiny on a higher res screen, which makes it very hard to use while driving.
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That all makes perfect sense.
Thanks for the note about the AGAMA launcher vs Teyes. I ruled out Teyes unit itself but because I liked the look of that launcher I was still considering the Snapdragon Joying unit with the Teyes-like Launder. But the specs and price of that unit compare to the 7862 version just don't make sense.
I will be ordering the 7862 version as well.
Thanks.