[Q] Looking for Volunteers to Open their NST without Glowlight - Nook Touch General

For those of you who do not know, I am on a mission to build Android 2.2 for the Nook Simple Touch.
Bill Detweiler at Techreports did tear downs of the Simple Touch and the Simple Touch with Glowlight.
In his review of the Glowlight he mentions several chips that he does not mention in his review of the regular Simple Touch. It is not clear whether they are not present in the regular NST or whether they are just not mentioned.
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I am a complete Klutz, and opening my NST would almost certainly be a disaster, LOL. I am looking for a couple people willing to pop open their NST without Glow and see if the following chips are or are not on the motherboard:
Chip Markings:
CKP TI A3T9
Texas Instruments BQ27520 System-Side Impedance Track Fuel Gauge
Texas Instruments 2624I
Texas Instruments YE04 18K G4 A919
Added question 08/31/2013: It would also be helpful to know if the traces on the motherboard go from the display connector to the ispMACH ZE or something else.

Hi
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I might be able to open it up and have a look at it as soon as it gets shipped to me.
Will post here if nobody else does till then.

Bill Detwiler of TechRepublic did the following teardowns:
Nook Simple Touch (without Glowlight)
Nook Simple Touch with Glowlight
I've taken mine apart a zillion times.
A (previously done) flatbed scan of the PCB is attached.
The two PCB appear practically identical.
The difference seems to be a few extra components in the upper left corner.
(The white connector is my own addition, a console UART connection.)
Note that there is a major difference between package markings and IC numbers.
The "CKP" is actually a bq24072
In short, I'd just go with the Nook Glow and presume that it would all work on the Touch.

THANKS Renata
Renate NST said:
Bill Detwiler of TechRepublic did the following teardowns:
Nook Simple Touch (without Glowlight)
Nook Simple Touch with Glowlight
I've taken mine apart a zillion times.
A (previously done) flatbed scan of the PCB is attached.
The two PCB appear practically identical.
The difference seems to be a few extra components in the upper left corner.
(The white connector is my own addition, a console UART connection.)
Note that there is a major difference between package markings and IC numbers.
The "CKP" is actually a bq24072
In short, I'd just go with the Nook Glow and presume that it would all work on the Touch.
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Hey, Renate!! Thank you so much for your response. The clue on the CKP chip helped me nail that one down. Using the same skills, I eliminated the 4th chip from the list, 'cause it is the same mux demux he mentioned in the NST article. I was also able to fill in more details on the other two chips in the list.
I am operating on the assumption that the chips are on the board. I am just looking for confirmation of that, lol.
Thank you again!

bump. still looking for volunteers to confirm these chips for me...

RandyB201 said:
bump. still looking for volunteers to confirm these chips for me...
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Maybe this helps https://www.dropbox.com/sh/glekkurykuybpbr/cFDvWaOYCt

RandyB201 said:
For those of you who do not know, I am on a mission to build Android 2.2 for the Nook Simple Touch.
Bill Detweiler at Techreports did tear downs of the Simple Touch and the Simple Touch with Glowlight.
In his review of the Glowlight he mentions several chips that he does not mention in his review of the regular Simple Touch. It is not clear whether they are not present in the regular NST or whether they are just not mentioned.
I am a complete Klutz, and opening my NST would almost certainly be a disaster, LOL. I am looking for a couple people willing to pop open their NST without Glow and see if the following chips are or are not on the motherboard:
Chip Markings:
CKP TI A3T9
Texas Instruments BQ27520 System-Side Impedance Track Fuel Gauge
Texas Instruments 2624I
Texas Instruments YE04 18K G4 A919
Added question 08/31/2013: It would also be helpful to know if the traces on the motherboard go from the display connector to the ispMACH ZE or something else.
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I've also been digging around to do some building; the stuff I've spotted so far (this is a without-glowlight) around the battery connector are two chips,
one labelled 'ckp ti 191 a0le' - I reckon that is a BQ 24072 charging chip (see http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/bq24073.pdf) - the 73 is supposed to be labelled ckq as far as I can tell.
The other chip I can see just next to it I think is labelled as BQ27506 but it's a bit on the damn small side; I'm assuming we've actually
got that rather than the BQ27520 that the source says but maybe it's just hiding.
Dave

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having trouble replacing touch matrix... need help, pictures included

so my touch matrix cracked, got a replacement on ebay that looks perfect. i got it to work but everytime a do, a few days later it stops working until i fix it again. i can't seem to figure out how the flexible PCB connects to the back of the LCD module. it looks like HTC just puts a piece of tape over it.
however, i noticed when taking off the old LCD touch matrix that there was some sort of possibly conductive adhesive that made it very difficult to pull off. i got it off but one of the contacts got stuck on there and it i had to scrape it off with a scalpel.
see picture below for exact details. if anyone has any experience in doing this and getting it to work, please let me know, it's so frustrating not having touch on this phone.
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I think you might need to have that professionally repaired. I used to refurbish phones for Motorola but I've never taken anything this advanced apart before. It sounds like you shouldn't have scraped off that conductive adhesive. The digitizer you bought should have been a relatively simple installation but you should have taken your time peeling off the old cracked digitizer. That adhesive is pretty strong and thats why they use it.
You might want to look into getting your hands on some of that adhesive and just replace it all. Sometimes the oils from your skin from handling such a sensitive ribbon cable could have damaged it as well.
P.S. Unfortunately, most of the people here are software genius's, not hardware experts unfortunately.
it's not too advanced. i figure if they at least offer the part as a replacement option on ebay it can't be too hard. and in the mass view, it's only 4 contacts and relatively easy to replace if you have a minor knowledge of electronics.
i keep taping it down firmly and even putting extra tape on top so that the pressure of the case will press down on the pcb to have a firmer connection.
note: i was very careful to observe ESD precautions, so that isn't it, plus there's no semiconductors that could be damaged in the touch matrix.
dudah85 said:
it's not too advanced. i figure if they at least offer the part as a replacement option on ebay it can't be too hard. and in the mass view, it's only 4 contacts and relatively easy to replace if you have a minor knowledge of electronics.
i keep taping it down firmly and even putting extra tape on top so that the pressure of the case will press down on the pcb to have a firmer connection.
note: i was very careful to observe ESD precautions, so that isn't it, plus there's no semiconductors that could be damaged in the touch matrix.
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Hmm... have you tried good old fashion superglue? I mean not neccesarily putting it on the end of the cable where the conductors are, but on the cable right near the conductors to keep it from moving around and then placing a few strips of tape to sandwich the cable with the housing pressing it down tight?
yes i have but i fear what happens if when pressing it down if it gets on the pads, then i'm just totally screwed. it's a tough situation, i wish there was a contact at HTC that could tell me how it's done.
i'm going to also try contacting their support/repair office and see if they can provide any insight.
dudah85 said:
yes i have but i fear what happens if when pressing it down if it gets on the pads, then i'm just totally screwed. it's a tough situation, i wish there was a contact at HTC that could tell me how it's done.
i'm going to also try contacting their support/repair office and see if they can provide any insight.
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The superglue option is very risky but it could save your @$$ if you only put very little on the ribbon and then hold it in place untill it dries and then press down once the glue is already dry.
On another note, contacting their support office would probably be your best bet.
Everything you have done, even though not done wrong, it a far greater risk than I would have ever taken... I would have sent it in to be repaired of the digitizer had a crack in it or or the dot matrix got scratched. But thats me.
Unfortunately there aren't too many technicians here on this forum since it is almost completely firmware and not hardware here... Then again, there might be a few. Where I live it's kinda late at night so maybe they're sleeping or something. Lol.
i'm neither a hardware nor a software expertm but i may be able to help... i saw the manual somewhere... www.mdatweak.com/downloads/Wizard_Service_Manual.pdf... try that... maybe it'll help you...

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Thanks for the resources! I ordered my Model B a month and a half ago and hopefully I will get it by December. I can't wait to start fiddling around with it!
I bought a rPI two weeks ago at europe, it seems to be an awesome toy! I hope to receive the new 512MB version.
Ordered mine from allied on friday. Hope to get it before Christmas
You guys are lucky, I ordered mine from RS electronics in mid July and it won't come until November 19-25 .
Thats my Hardware on this little Pi!!!!
Version A
Currently on Dualboot with: DarkElec(12.08)+Raspian(12.10) on Berryboot!!!
config:
arm/900 mhz
sdram/500 mhz
gpu/400 mhz
disable overscan/1
overvolting/2
Cooler: Boxedcooler from AMDx4 956
Temperature Sensor: direct on Chip,selfbuildet from my old Geforce 550ti Graphiccard!!!!
CALIBAN666 said:
Thats my Hardware on this little Pi!!!!
Version A
Currently on Dualboot with: DarkElec(12.08)+Raspian(12.10) on Berryboot!!!
config:
arm/900 mhz
sdram/500 mhz
gpu/400 mhz
disable overscan/1
overvolting/2
Cooler: Boxedcooler from AMDx4 956
Temperature Sensor: direct on Chip,selfbuildet from my old Geforce 550ti Graphiccard!!!!
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That is awesome! Now that's what I call pushing the hardware . Personally I think you should add a water cooling setup .
work in progress,pics come sooooon.
CALIBAN666 said:
work in progress,pics come sooooon.
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Awesome can't wait :good:! If there is any information from your research and experimenting you would like me to add to the original post let me know .
That is an awesome case mod! I was thinking of putting one of my pi's under water literally. Maybe fish tank style with mineral water, i'll post pics if I go that route, maybe a fish bowl as a tank would be ridiculous for such a tiny pcb.
U can put in oil in an aquarium ive seen it with a normal pc.
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Longshot -->Spare parts source for a Yoga Tablet 2 830F - 8"?

Does anyone have any ideas where I can find replacement parts for this thing? Specifically I'm seeking the little flex board that houses the micro USB connector. It's my wife's tablet and she's hard on connectors. I've repaired several of her phones but this tablet is more obscure it seems.
I've been searching based on printing on the part and I can find a pic of it from google image using "lenovo Blade2_8" but the link to a russian website doesn't go to the part shown.
It looks like this:
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this one or this search and i think you can find more
hardware manual
Thank You! I searched everywhere I could think of; not sure how I missed the eBay one, that's my goto source for most things like this.
I'm hoping that it is the bum part as the device still recognizes that a USB is plugged in momentarily. It's a $50 guess.
delawaredrew said:
Thank You! I searched everywhere I could think of; not sure how I missed the eBay one, that's my goto source for most things like this.
I'm hoping that it is the bum part as the device still recognizes that a USB is plugged in momentarily. It's a $50 guess.
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wow... that ebay seller sure has a good margin considering the import statement found here it costs 1.5 us dollars per unit (not even 2), yet the seller is the one who makes the price, if you have someone who can buy from and send it to you from china... or some friend in russia for this one i am sure is way cheaper ... or just go to a near lenovo support service that does hw repairs and beg for it or tell them that you will pay double the price (3 usd)
you can also search for the part yourself, i just linked the fast found search results
delawaredrew said:
Does anyone have any ideas where I can find replacement parts for this thing? Specifically I'm seeking the little flex board that houses the micro USB connector. It's my wife's tablet and she's hard on connectors. I've repaired several of her phones but this tablet is more obscure it seems.
I've been searching based on printing on the part and I can find a pic of it from google image using "lenovo Blade2_8" but the link to a russian website doesn't go to the part shown.
It looks like this:
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Drew
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If I were you, I would order a new USB connector and then solder it to the ribbon in place of the old one. It is tricky, but doable. Just need a fine tip soldering iron and some helping hands and a pair of tweezers. You do not want to let the ribbon cable heat up and melt. That would be the end. But, like I said, it can be done.
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I bought and replaced the whole part and it works, charging as normal.
The $50 price tag was steep for a part that probably cost $0.10 in China but, whatever; that's why I work . And my wife is happy now. So I'll consider it a worthy investment.
Jaytronics - I usually do OK fixing my own stuff but I've never been any good at soldering. I'm shaky on a good day and I don't get much practice. I can get it done on larger things but on something that size I'd probably bridge 2 pins or something. I thought about trying it when I failed to find the whole piece but doubt won.
Thanks for the input guys. XDA saves the day again.
Now if I can just find a root and ROM for it.... it doesn't play with Hulu well on stock ROM.
Drew

LG G2 Motherboard Memory Module Location?

Ok so I dropped my LG G2 and the Otterbox Defender didn't do **** all to prevent the phone from promptly turning off, stop responding to charging and literally wouldn't turn on except for every now and again the camera flash would turn on for no reason.
So I replaced the motherboard, good as new, BUT all my stuff is gone, so obviously it was all stored on the MB, I was wondering if I could melt off the old memory module and put it onto my new MB? Just don't know which is which. We're talking irreplaceable years of my son's life here, will stop at nothing
NAND chip must be located under the back keys pad:
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Val D. said:
NAND chip must be located under the back keys pad:
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The big black one? Could someone that knows what they're doing desolder that and put it onto a working MB? Would that work? What do you think would be the best course of action to recover the data from it? On the back of the MB there's a metal casing with something thin inside it, and it looks VERY much like a micro SD card, do you think the data is there instead?
Haxxtastic said:
The big black one? Could someone that knows what they're doing desolder that and put it onto a working MB? Would that work? What do you think would be the best course of action to recover the data from it? On the back of the MB there's a metal casing with something thin inside it, and it looks VERY much like a micro SD card, do you think the data is there instead?
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(Ignore the red circle, just happens to be the pic I found of the other side of the board.)
It looks like the memory is on the other side. Hynix is a known memory chip maker. Also, it looks like a BGA (from the low res pic it is hard to tell, but very likely). You cannot simply "desolder" a BGA chip. If it is that important to you, you need professional help. Even then, it will likely be pricey.
Toshiba chip is the NAND, memory chip on the other side of the board is the RAM, and it's placed on top of Snapdragon 800 SoC. BGA NAND package is possible to replace in theory, using an IR soldering station with precise temperature control. If overheated, the chip will get damaged. First, the boards must be thermo-shielded to protect other components, then both chips have to be removed from main boards, then boards and chips must be cleaned thoroughly (from old solder and flux, there is a technique to do that), then the good chip must be re-balled (special stencil for re-balling the NAND is needed) and soldered in place using the same IR station. I used to do this on computer motherboards in the past, but phone main board is much smaller. Not sure if the standard BGA replacement method will work on it. No repair center will give you any warranty on this work. There is a good chance to end up with 2 dead boards. You need to start making backup copies of everything that is important to you.
Hi guys,
Apparently I purchased a counterfeit LG V20 and I can't get it fixed by LG. The charging port is no good. So you either have to find someone who can micro solder it or buy a new motherboard.
LG sent me a pic of what is no good. I have downloaded CPU-Z and have identified the cpu, gpu, storage and camera. However I don't know what they are pointing to in the photo. It is between the rear camera and the front camera. It has a little notch in it like the one in the above photo. Does anybody know what that is. I am posting here because it appears this thread is familiar with this board. Thank you so much.
<img src="https://i740.photobucket.com/albums/xx41/joedirt42/A018C6711261_1.jpg" border="0" alt="LG v20 photo A018C6711261_1.jpg"/>
not sure why I can't post this photo

FPC Battery Connector for main logic board

Hi guys, is there anywhere I can get a fpc battery terminal for the logic board as per image attached? one of the brass prongs got caught in the battery and pinged off to my horror!
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Gutted is an understatement!
@turbotux If it's *just* the connector you want, and you're happy/able to solder it to the board, you can get it here.....
http://www.fonejoy.com/genuine-sams...edge-j1-j5-battery-connector-3711-008737.html
I personally wouldn't touch a hand soldering job like that, and I have been regularly using a soldering iron on all sorts of kit for over 20 years. The connectors are invariably microscopic and the potential to cause other, accidental damage is too high.
But if you want to try it....fair play and good luck (I think you'll need it).
Having actually had a 'close up' look at the connector, the solder points are bigger than I thought they would be (I've hand soldered smaller contacts). It would be possible to hand solder, but you'd need a *very* fine tipped soldering iron. And preferably one that produced a lower level of heat than a 'regular' soldering iron.
keithross39 said:
Having actually had a 'close up' look at the connector, the solder points are bigger than I thought they would be (I've hand soldered smaller contacts). It would be possible to hand solder, but you'd need a *very* fine tipped soldering iron. And preferably one that produced a lower level of heat than a 'regular' soldering iron.
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Thank you so much for the response, it appears the solder points are big enough, look it's broken each way so it's worth a try I guess.
turbotux said:
Thank you so much for the response, it appears the solder points are big enough, look it's broken each way so it's worth a try I guess.
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Yeah....you have a broken phone right now so why not try it? Just be *REAL* careful....There are a number of surface mounted components in close proximity to your work area....
Damaging them through accidental contact with the soldering iron (or even simple heat transfer along the board) is a BIG possibility....
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One final bit of advice (though you probably already know this) 'tin' or coat the solder points on the new part before going near the board. It'll help minimise the length of time the iron is in contact with the board.
I have a soldering iron with a 'home modified' reversable tip. You can see in the picture, at one end is the standard 4mm tip while at the other is a 1mm tip that tapers down to practically a needle point. This is the end that sees the most use, and it is that size of tip that you're going to need.
Just to update, I managed to solder it and it still did not work unfortunely so I've bought another n910f handset, these things happen. However the cause of this I think is down to the extended battery I had pulling on the whole module, I'm going to be running the stock batteries I have from now on.
A worthy purchase however is the extended battery I've picked up for those long cycle rides which should easily see me through, for interest its a 14000mAh Logic3 which I picked up from Maplin for around £40 and compared to its 30000mAh Chinese predecessor it totally kicks ass.
A expensive lesson learned here....
I've gone a slightly different route with my S5 and wife's N4. I have 3 batteries for each and an external charger for both types.
The spare batteries are standard capacity, but they're made by Anker.
Batteries get rotated so there's always a good battery in the phone, one that's charging and a fully charged one waiting for use.
keithross39 said:
I've gone a slightly different route with my S5 and wife's N4. I have 3 batteries for each and an external charger for both types.
The spare batteries are standard capacity, but they're made by Anker.
Batteries get rotated so there's always a good battery in the phone, one that's charging and a fully charged one waiting for use.
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Yeah the safe approach, I'm going down this route also, thanks for all your help
Yeah....It also minimises wear on the micro usb socket built into the phone...which is one big weak point on these devices.

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