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Is it worth it?

I've been reading the nvidia forums and I hear nothing but problems about this device, from updates breaking feature to weak Wi-Fi to cracked edges to chatting issues. It seems like a great device and a dream come true for my needs (stylus, gaming power, decent battery in normal use, console mode, quick update etc.) But the more I read those forums the more I doubt this device.
What is the consensus on XDA? Have you guys had any issues? How's Wi-Fi?
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Short answer - Yes.
Mine runs like a champ with no wifi issues at all. It has your typical brand new out of the box software compatability bugs that all new products have, but nothing that get in the way of it being a great product. Nothing even comes close as far as horsepower goes.
The only real problems I see is the cracking corner issues. I too have 1 very small hair line crack that I would have never noticed if others had not been talking about them. I toyed with the idea of an RMA and then figured why bother. Really, I can spend all that time and effort with RMA, get another one and have the same problem. The crack is unfortunate, but nothing that ruins the tablet. I love this little thing even with a tiny crack.

I am not really feeling it. The worst part is I picked mine up from my short trip to the US, and there's no recourse for me here. I have not experienced cracked edges (But surprisingly, the bezel on mine is rough from around the centre of the screen for around 2-3 cms). The Wi-Fi where I am living is not spectacular, and coupled with the sub-par Wi-Fi on the tablet, I haven't been able to download one game on the tablet yet. Besides, there has been screen flickering which has recently cropped up (When on manual brightness. Toggling from Auto to manual seems to have removed it), and I am seeing lag in the menus with the CPU profile on Optimized.
I want to love my tablet, really, (More so since I am stuck with it.), but, I am getting a few pangs of buyers remorse. Undoubtedly, the Shield tab is a powerhouse, but, sincerely hoping that Nvidia fixes the software side of things, the sooner the better.

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I am not really feeling it. The worst part is I picked mine up from my short trip to the US, and there's no recourse for me here. I have not experienced cracked edges (But surprisingly, the bezel on mine is rough from around the centre of the screen for around 2-3 cms). The Wi-Fi where I am living is not spectacular, and coupled with the sub-par Wi-Fi on the tablet, I haven't been able to download one game on the tablet yet. Besides, there has been screen flickering which has recently cropped up (When on manual brightness. Toggling from Auto to manual seems to have removed it), and I am seeing lag in the menus with the CPU profile on Optimized.
I want to love my tablet, really, (More so since I am stuck with it.), but, I am getting a few pangs of buyers remorse. Undoubtedly, the Shield tab is a powerhouse, but, sincerely hoping that Nvidia fixes the software side of things, the sooner the better.
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The screen flickering is just Prism and we will probably be be able to turn it off with future updates. An as for the lag, id bet my left nut that you have installed some app or combo of apps that is conflicting and slowing down the tab. I have my tab set with 2 cores, 50% CPU power and limit 30 fps. I see zero lag (and great battery life). Even half-life and trine play perfect. I have noticed that the WiFi can get a bit weaker wen holding the tab in portrait but its never enough to cause an issue. Grid works perfect even on a crap century link router.
Anyways I am loving this tablet (although, this is my second, first had display driver issue and was returned to nvidia) my only complaint is that the accessories are nowhere to be found.

People not having wifi issues are apparently around strong wifi or used to poor wifi. Too many reports and acknowledgement by Nvidia not to be a global issue. The Best Buy units also have the weak wifi problem. 2.4 is poor and 5.0 is awful. Also signal bias depending on how the devices are held. "Classic" poor wifi antenna design.
Even the 32gb version is delayed from the early September release now. Coincidence perhaps, but fits the timing of the issue. Ditto on the cracks that show after a few days use.
Hopefully the issues get fixed, or sales will be impacted on an otherwise nice device. Best to return it and wait for proof of fixes if dislike the crack and wifi issues. Neither are going to be fixed with firmware.

I would bet that the Wi-Fi signal strength depends on which side of the device you hold on to.

Really ? I have zero issues great tablet ! Watch the reviews and go with your instincts. As for WiFi issues I opened mine last week connected to WiFi straight away there was a ota fixing a few issues with WiFi etc, Almost every new device has them as for the cracked corners? How do they treat the tablet, I dropped mine from quite a high distance and Did not even mark or dent scratch. The build itself feels solid, my only grumble is the bezzel has quite a sharp finish apart from that its amazing fast smooth great battery life great all round tablet. I would highly recommend! Don't listen to the horror storys.
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If you're a gamer get it. If you're just gonna get it for media consumption probably not worth it as you can just buy a cheaper device for that or you may already have a media consumption device. I think majority buy this tablet for streaming games from pc or grid and play k1 enhanced games. For me I like playing the k1 enhanced games and grid and also onlive and with the shield controller it's no fuzz. No need for remapping. And also some games that have some control support will have available maps downloaded when you play the game so you don't have to remap.
Wifi on mine is not as strong as my other devices: note 3, note 2014. I got a replacement and it's slightly better but screen is more yellow so the wifi on my original might be faulty. I also noticed before I did an OTA on the replacement, the wifi was even stronger. Or at least it was showing 36mbps connection vs 11mbps after in the same spot. Weird but I hope this wifi thing can be a software issue too.
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I have zero interest in gaming, I just don't think there is a better 8" tablet available at any price.

wifesabitch said:
I have zero interest in gaming, I just don't think there is a better 8" tablet available at any price.
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That's exactly how I feel, of course it's a little compromise on the screen but everything else screams amazing. But these problems are getting me wary, I have one coming on from amazon on Wed so I guess I'll decide soon.
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wifesabitch said:
I have zero interest in gaming, I just don't think there is a better 8" tablet available at any price.
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If not a gamer, the new Samsung 8" seems better. Much better display, better battery life and much better wifi reception. Like the Shield, they are both constrained for storage due to the 11gb free on the devices. IMO, this size especially with Android L that take 20% more space seems tiny.

Wi Fi not great with mine but not so bad that I regret getting mine..I can't put mine down

chispas117 said:
Wi Fi not great with mine but not so bad that I regret getting mine..I can't put mine down
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Same but it's still honeymoon stage so time will tell.
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Good WiFi reception for me

Wifi is relative to where you use it. If in a stronger area, even weak wifi reception is good.

Have no problem with WiFi great signal round the house and the bottom of my large garden.

rushless said:
If not a gamer, the new Samsung 8" seems better. Much better display, better battery life and much better wifi reception. Like the Shield, they are both constrained for storage due to the 11gb free on the devices. IMO, this size especially with Android L that take 20% more space seems tiny.
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If you're thinking about the Tab S 8.4 it has a better screen and battery life, but the performance is so so. UI lag and general lag in apps isn't so nice.
The Sheild has it's weak points but i can't think of any better tablet right now in this price range / size range.
I have the 16g version temporarily until my 32gb LTE version arrives. I can't understand why nvidia even made a 16gb model. With the kind of games you can play on this device, 16gb isn't nearly enough.

I have a 32gb Note 2014. Was wanting to replace with the Shield 32gb but will now wait to see if the wifi is fixed on that version. Comparing the Note, Air and Shield 16gb clearly showed how weak the Shield wifi is. Either that or the Note and Air have super mega watt powered wifi. My guess it is the former.
Was hoping 16gb would work, but even if wifi was fine, would have returned anyway since prefer the extra internal storage. LTE though is a waste for me since I have Verizon.

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I have a 32gb Note 2014. Was wanting to replace with the Shield 32gb but will now wait to see if the wifi is fixed on that version. Comparing the Note, Air and Shield 16gb clearly showed how weak the Shield wifi is. Either that or the Note and Air have super mega watt powered wifi. My guess it is the former.
Was hoping 16gb would work, but even if wifi was fine, would have returned anyway since prefer the extra internal storage. LTE though is a waste for me since I have Verizon.
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WIFI Issue was fixed with a ota, my WiFi is better than my lg g2 nexus 7 2nd edt etc.....

Come on guys, we are talking about an device available since beginning August in the Us and since two weeks in Europe.
There seem to be some batches who had problems. Nvidia answered really fast and supported people having Problems with cracking edges.
We had so many devices in the past having problems when been released. (And they were twice the price at an shield Tablet)
So lets get a look what we are getting for 300 bucks :
8 Inch FHD Display
k1 Prozessor.
Micro SD
Build in stylus ( Made out of metal, not some weird plastic thing)
Close to stock android
Good Haptic ( l know that is subjectiv )
The promise to receive Android L quiet fast
l think the package is one of the best in this price segment.
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Another new Phone release, Another Verizon failed launch.

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Richard Marx was right, Shoulda known better,
Sold my G2 thinking i would be able to pickup a new White Note 4.
The Note 3 launch was much better with plenty of devices in stock everywhere.
Looks like many of us wont see a White Note 4 until November!,
Rocking the wifes old GNEX with cracked screen is TORTURE! ha
(Actually gnex dev is still alive and well, some roms are actually pretty darn snappy!)
Now, im seeing that the VZW Variant might have mic holes in a different place than the rest of the variants..
This is enraging and Whoever designed and ok'ed these shenanigans should be found and turned into Eunuchs.
And As always, "With Verizon, always assume the worst. -jayochs"

correction : with Verizon, always assume the worst.
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jayochs said:
correction : with Verizon, always assume the worst.
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Yes - Thank you ! you are absolutely correct sir.
post fixed.

Only online Verizon stills have white note 4.

Yeah I had initially pre order the white version, but because of a misunderstanding I ended on up canceling my order and getting the Black Note 4 in store on the 23rd since I knew that the White Note 4 wouldn't be released till around the first of the month, and I'm actually liking the Black one more than I had expected. Plus my last phone was a Galaxy S4 which was white.

deathshead said:
Richard Marx was right, Shoulda known better,
Sold my G2 thinking i would be able to pickup a new White Note 4.
The Note 3 launch was much better with plenty of devices in stock everywhere.
Looks like many of us wont see a White Note 4 until November!,
Rocking the wifes old GNEX with cracked screen is TORTURE! ha
(Actually gnex dev is still alive and well, some roms are actually pretty darn snappy!)
Now, im seeing that the VZW Variant might have mic holes in a different place than the rest of the variants..
This is enraging and Whoever designed and ok'ed these shenanigans should be found and turned into Eunuchs.
And As always, "With Verizon, always assume the worst. -jayochs"
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Please explain this "mic holes" thing. Is it normal for Samsung to manufacture a shell with mic holes in a different location for one provider?
I have Verizon. I used to have Sprint and Sprint was the worst thing in the world, or at least close. I went with Verizon because they had the best signal strength in most of the places that I used to live, and because the company I work at has a discount. But it seems that every post that I see is someone hating Verizon. I've moved now, and the signal isn't quite as good. My SGS3 seems to drop out more frequently in stores now. Because I'm not from this area, I talked to a few neighbors. Even the neighbor with AT&T told me to stay with Verizon unless I want a ton of dropped calls and lost text messages.

I most important reason why I stay with Verizon is the NETWORK...which is the most important for cell phone...unless you're an old man that live in one place and not going anywhere.

I got my white one last Thursday

Hardknockz313 said:
Yeah I had initially pre order the white version, but because of a misunderstanding I ended on up canceling my order and getting the Black Note 4 in store on the 23rd since I knew that the White Note 4 wouldn't be released till around the first of the month, and I'm actually liking the Black one more than I had expected. Plus my last phone was a Galaxy S4 which was white.
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Haha same story with me! Coming from a white s4. Wanted white note 4 got the black due to the shortage of white ones. Now I like it more than I thought. Still thinking of switching to white if it becomes available within my 14 days. If not, no big deal.
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buhohitr said:
I most important reason why I stay with Verizon is the NETWORK...which is the most important for cell phone...unless you're an old man that live in one place and not going anywhere.
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Same here, North Eastern PA, Nothing touches VZW for the network, and having UDP..
The mic holes thing i referring too was in regards to the other thread here, where the mic holes at the bottom of the device
are moved a few mm off from the rest of the variants, thus creating a case problem.
Verizon is well known for these types of shenanigans which drastically cuts down on accessories,
they did it with the gnex, the G2 (but DID offer qi charging as a bonus.) and not it seems the note 4.

My phone did not come with replacement S-Pen tips or the removal tool. Samsung and Verizon are trying to ping-pong me back and forth between each other. How freaking hard would it be to send me some.
I think I have a buddy with the note 4 that still has his tips from the note 3..should be the same?

nova + disabling samsung/verizon apps have mostly solved any software issues i was having. i am still going in on the root bounty though ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-verizon/general/bounty-verizon-note-4-root-whos-t2916685

ryan2215 said:
nova + disabling samsung/verizon apps have mostly solved any software issues i was having. i am still going in on the root bounty though ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-verizon/general/bounty-verizon-note-4-root-whos-t2916685
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Were you able to remove everything that you wanted gone? I was looking at a Verizon Note 4 in BB this afternoon, and there is a TON of crap on it. Of course it's a demo phone, so some of the stuff on it might not come on the phones that they sell.

My Verizon note 4 came with the extra tips and removal tool. You should ask who ever you bought it from if that is an issue.

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My Verizon note 4 came with the extra tips and removal tool. You should ask who ever you bought it from if that is an issue.
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^this. My vzw note 4 also came with tips/removal tool

usmaak said:
Were you able to remove everything that you wanted gone? I was looking at a Verizon Note 4 in BB this afternoon, and there is a TON of crap on it. Of course it's a demo phone, so some of the stuff on it might not come on the phones that they sell.
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There's a nifty feature where you can disable almost any app you would want gone. I disabled all the bloat and love my note 4

I went in today to pick up two Note 4s and obviously there weren't any in stock. The black one would come on Wed, the white one on Friday. I decided to just go ahead and do two white ones since it was only two days later. I was kind of shocked they didn't have anything in stock.

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Were you able to remove everything that you wanted gone? I was looking at a Verizon Note 4 in BB this afternoon, and there is a TON of crap on it. Of course it's a demo phone, so some of the stuff on it might not come on the phones that they sell.[/QUOTE
The Note4 allow you to turn off the system apps so no issue here. What I suggest you do is go into settings -> application-> running tab and see what's running and if you don't need them just slowly turn them off until only what you need are running. Just remember you only need to disable the app that run as a service where it consumes battery life and memory. Other apps are only running when you launch and a quick kill all tasks would shut them down permanently until you launch them again. You don't need to remove them since they take up not much space at all.
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Rippley05 said:
My phone did not come with replacement S-Pen tips or the removal tool. Samsung and Verizon are trying to ping-pong me back and forth between each other. How freaking hard would it be to send me some.
I think I have a buddy with the note 4 that still has his tips from the note 3..should be the same?
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Mine came with it n3 and n4. Let me check if they are the same from the look the tool is but haven't checked side by side yet.
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Android Police first impressions..

http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...-googles-nexus-6-really-big-really-beautiful/
Ps author also confirmed in the posts that due to NDAs no blog is allowed to post reviews yet... That's why every "hands on" looks the same so far.
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rubi76 said:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...-googles-nexus-6-really-big-really-beautiful/
Ps author also confirmed in the posts that due to NDAs no blog is allowed to post reviews yet... That's why every "hands on" looks the same so far.
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now it's just a matter of waiting and expecting good results. so hoping for awesome battery test scores, even though i'm sure the phone will do just as good as the others.

That white color looks so nice. But they said it was matte, which means that it will be more prone to staining.. Ah, I'll probably get white anyways. It looks too good!

rubi76 said:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...-googles-nexus-6-really-big-really-beautiful/
Ps author also confirmed in the posts that due to NDAs no blog is allowed to post reviews yet... That's why every "hands on" looks the same so far.
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Until when? Does the NDA forbid video demonstrations of the speakers & brightness slider? Reviews (without some more objective metrics) are just subjective thoughts, what's the difference between first impressions & preliminary review?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/help/sound-quality-volume-t2925203#post56436133
I've been subject to Google NDAs before product release but preorders happened on 10/29 & it's November already..hopefully these NDAs will allow for more before Nov 12..:good:

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now it's just a matter of waiting and expecting good results. so hoping for awesome battery test scores, even though i'm sure the phone will do just as good as the others.
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Now that the double speakers stereo sound is a checkmark, bedside the battery (I agree with you the phone battery will do fine..) the big one is the camera...
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrymagid/2014/11/01/hands-on-with-googles-nexus-6/ makes it all more clear:
My Nexus 6 review unit arrived yesterday and after a day of testing, I can say that it compares well against the iPhone 6 Plus. Google isn’t allowing reviewers to publish full-scale reviews until November 12th, but is permitting “first impressions.”..
The full article also reasonably addresses first impressions of screen and sound quality ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56436133&postcount=3 ) well & includes a solid (albeit likely not its full resolution) photo of the author's dog.
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Until when? Does the NDA forbid video demonstrations of the speakers & brightness slider? Reviews (without some more objective metrics) are just subjective thoughts, what's the difference between first impressions & preliminary review?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/help/sound-quality-volume-t2925203#post56436133
I've been subject to Google NDAs before product release but preorders happened on 10/29 & it's November already..hopefully these NDAs will allow for more before Nov 12..:good:
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SMARTPHONEPC said:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrymagid/2014/11/01/hands-on-with-googles-nexus-6/ makes it all more clear:
My Nexus 6 review unit arrived yesterday and after a day of testing, I can say that it compares well against the iPhone 6 Plus. Google isn’t allowing reviewers to publish full-scale reviews until November 12th, but is permitting “first impressions.”..
The full article also reasonably addresses first impressions of screen and sound quality ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56436133&postcount=3 ) well & includes a solid (albeit likely not its full resolution) photo of the author's dog.
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AGH! Failed at focusing!

Ngo93 said:
That white color looks so nice. But they said it was matte, which means that it will be more prone to staining.. Ah, I'll probably get white anyways. It looks too good!
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I generally dislike white phones with a passion... Usually it is because the front is also white which looks terrible IMHO for viewing video etc... I'm totally with you, the nexus 6 looks amazing in white! It will be my first white phone, by choice!

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AGH! Failed at focusing!
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From that one image, it's true not everything is in focus like many Note 4 images I've seen posted online that seem to make all distances extra sharp but I'm used to tap to focus on what I want in focus & otherwise looks fine but it's just one image with what I assume is a default auto-focus setting on a dog that looks close which could likely benefit from a focus tap.
Regarding the cloud white color, I do agree it's a nice white since the bezel is still black & seems to make the handset look thinner from the side but perhaps wider-larger from the back so I'm still leaning toward Midnight Blue even if its blue rim looks a bit too purple in photos. I always put a case on my handsets likely start with http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OH4I2IC/

SMARTPHONEPC said:
From that one image, it's true not everything is in focus like many Note 4 images I've seen posted online that seem to make all distances extra sharp but I'm used to tap to focus on what I want in focus & otherwise looks fine but it's just one image with what I assume is a default auto-focus setting on a dog that looks close which could likely benefit from a focus tap.
Regarding the cloud white color, I do agree it's a nice white since the bezel is still black & seems to make the handset look thinner from the side but perhaps wider-larger from the back so I'm still leaning toward Midnight Blue even if its blue rim looks a bit too purple in photos. I always put a case on my handsets likely start with http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OH4I2IC/
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Oh yes of course! I meant to say the reviewer took a poor photo.

Update: After some confusion over the seemingly inconsistent tap-to-wake functionality, I reached out to Google for official confirmation and was informed that the Nexus 6 does not include tap-to-wake functionality. It would seem my review unit responded to tap-to-wake simply because of the very slight motion caused by tapping the device, not because it's an actual feature of the device.
That said, the lift-to-wake functionality works and nearly obviates the power button. Without the Moto X's extreme sensitivity though, you'll likely still find yourself hitting that little textured button.
Also, wireless charging is present. I don't own the Nexus charging pad (only the charging orb from the Nexus 4 era) so I can't comment on how well the device sticks to the pad's magnets, only that magnets do seem to grab specifically around the Nexus logo. I can say however that the device is very nearly too big to use the orb, and its rounded back keeps the Nexus 6 from quite hanging on. This isn't too shocking for a years-old accessory that wasn't designed with the N6 in mind, though.
I haven't had much time to really put the device through its paces in terms of battery, gaming, etc., but I'll be working on that for the full review.

Was looking forward to tap and wake. Oh well, who cares. It's an awesome phone, spec wise.
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rubi76 said:
Update: After some confusion over the seemingly inconsistent tap-to-wake functionality, I reached out to Google for official confirmation and was informed that the Nexus 6 does not include tap-to-wake functionality. It would seem my review unit responded to tap-to-wake simply because of the very slight motion caused by tapping the device, not because it's an actual feature of the device.
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Boo now I'm really bummed , tap to wake and tap to sleep is so convenient :crying:

I'm not convinced that tap to wake makes sense with the ambient display feature.

Chad_Petree said:
Boo now I'm really bummed , tap to wake and tap to sleep is so convenient :crying:
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I am hoping a custom kernel might give us this feature since SD805 supports this (LG G3 uses same chip and has this feature).

I know the N6 supports Qi charging, but have any of the sites that have given their first impressions mentioned whether the N6 has the magnets inside to hold the phone on the wireless charger like the N5 has?

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I know the N6 supports Qi charging, but have any of the sites that have given their first impressions mentioned whether the N6 has the magnets inside to hold the phone on the wireless charger like the N5 has?
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"I can't comment on how well the device sticks to the pad's magnets, only that magnets do seem to grab specifically around the Nexus logo"
The reviewer seems to hint that the N6 has indeed magnets... at least that's the way I read it... I would love to have other reviewers confirm though...

rubi76 said:
"I can't comment on how well the device sticks to the pad's magnets, only that magnets do seem to grab specifically around the Nexus logo"
The reviewer seems to hint that the N6 has indeed magnets... at least that's the way I read it... I would love to have other reviewers confirm though...
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Whoops. Not quite sure how I missed that, as I did read the Android Police article. Thanks!

rubi76 said:
"I can't comment on how well the device sticks to the pad's magnets, only that magnets do seem to grab specifically around the Nexus logo"
The reviewer seems to hint that the N6 has indeed magnets... at least that's the way I read it... I would love to have other reviewers confirm though...
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That's how I read it. They are there.

Some Nexus 5X devices are getting stuck in bootloops after upgrading to Android 7.0

http://www.androidauthority.com/nexus-5x-android-7-nougat-bootloop-issue-717698/
So I read this article back on September 21st and thought, "Well I've been using 7.0 since it was N Preview 3 and upgraded to final release just fine. I should be good." Then two nights ago while I was just browsing online, it happened to me and I got an endless bootloop. Mind you, I am totally stock and unrooted (Support does ask if you are by the way) which is a first for me as I usually ended up rooting and customizing my previous phones. All I saw was the Google logo for 5-10 seconds, then it turn off, back to the logo, and repeat. I followed the trouble shooting steps to clear the cache and the factory reset. At first I couldn't even get to those options but letting the phone rest in power off for a few minutes fixed that. But it's still bootlooping on me. Good thing Google's customer support is 24/7, I'm within my 1 year warranty (Purchased Sept 2015 but didn't receive and activate until end of Oct 2015), and I'll be receiving my free replacement in the mail in the next few days.
Only "issues" are I'm going to lose my Ice Blue color and will be getting a black one, I splurged for the expedited shipping ($18.99 which I don't think they'll cover), and it'll be a little bit as it's 1-2 days for processing and 1 day (hopefully) shipping. They do put a hold on my credit card for the total price which they remove once the old phone gets shipped. I have 14 days to ship the old one which they do provide shipping and packing slips for free. That makes sense someone could try to lie and scam to get a free phone without some kind of collateral.
Overall, I was pretty satisfied with the support I got and was really tempted to splurge on the Googe Pixel and pay $27/month prior to this happening. But with this replacement, I'm hoping that my original unit was defective in performance (That's what comments would say) as it slowed down way more than it should on things that would be pretty simple especially websites. Guess I'll wait for the Pixel 2 next year.
Update:
Looks like the expedited shipping was covered by them. The hold was removed from my credit card and no shipping charge remaining.

EeZeEpEe said:
http://www.androidauthority.com/nexus-5x-android-7-nougat-bootloop-issue-717698/
So I read this article back on September 21st and thought, "Well I've been using 7.0 since it was N Preview 3 and upgraded to final release just fine. I should be good." Then two nights ago while I was just browsing online, it happened to me and I got an endless bootloop. Mind you, I am totally stock and unrooted
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IMO the original information from the Google reply is confusing. In the context they were answering it makes it seem like the hardware problem is between 7.0 and the hardware. IMO the hardware problem is actually eMMC that is close to failing and it could have happened on MM as well (there have been sporadic posts of this happening since release). So Google is right, it is a hardware problem, but the implication that it is related to Android 7.0 and you'd be all safe with 6.0.x is IMO deceptive.

sfhub said:
IMO the original information from the Google reply is confusing. In the context they were answering it makes it seem like the hardware problem is between 7.0 and the hardware. IMO the hardware problem is actually eMMC that is close to failing and it could have happened on MM as well (there have been sporadic posts of this happening since release). So Google is right, it is a hardware problem, but the implication that it is related to Android 7.0 and you'd be all safe with 6.0.x is IMO deceptive.
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Well hopefully there was an eMMC fix with the one I just received today. Let's see how it performs for me.

EeZeEpEe said:
Well hopefully there was an eMMC fix with the one I just received today. Let's see how it performs for me.
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If it was manufactured later (or a refurb) there is at least the possibility the eMMC chip might be of different batch, but if it was manufactured back in 10/2015 timeframe, I doubt Google knew about the problem back then so there would be zero chance it has some newer eMMC chip. Even if it was manufactured after that there is no guarantee they knew about the problem and made a manufacturing change.
I don't think it is a highly prevalent problem, but it occurs more than what is usual with phones. There are plenty of 5x's which don't experience the problem. You will probably be fine.
IMO these eMMC chips that they used have a higher failure rate than normal but probably is still a low absolute number relative to number of phones sold. It doesn't take that many posts about permanently bootlooped phones to make it seem like an epidemic when it might not be when looking at the overall picture.

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Well if this fails again within 1 year I'll take another replacement. LOL. Probably sell it at that point and put it towards whatever Google is out with then.
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It is possible it might be some different hardware defect with solder joints rather than eMMC chip itself. Just a working theory that the 5x may suffer a hardware problem acknowledged for its cousin the LG G4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-5x/general/5x-bootloop-cause-fix-t3476794

So after a good 3 days of use, I can say my original release day 5X probably did have some kind of defect. It's amazing how much smoother my replacement has been and I haven't changed my apps or usage. There are times of delay and lag here and there but not to the point where it wasn't usable like unscrollable web pages or non-responsive back, home, recent apps buttons like my old phone. Eventually it will catch up and things go back to working smoothly without the need to restart the phone. I should've requested a replacement months ago! I just didn't believe people when they said it was defective and I don't realize how easy and quick it was to get a replacement. Oh well.
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I must say this thread is quite quiet...
Mine died a week ago while traveling.
It was actually running 7.0 for quite some time. but I think it's eMMC failing because the only major change I had was doing more videos in 4k (that sometimes stuttered).
Then one morning without warning it rebooted and died.
Hope they'll replace it as my purchase date was 10/9 ...
However, I'm afraid there's a defect similar to the G4 one because it seems very similar.
Also as written above, might be related to the reports of some users as I had prior to 7.0 betas of lags. my device felt really laggy when I first bought it.

What's your S/N number?

Happened to mine five days ago. Sent to repair (Norway) but got a New one anyway. To hard to switch phones after years on nexus. Got a New OTA update just now, related?

I sent mine in to LG after it randomly shut down and bootlooped using maps. They reported this issue was with the flash memory, so everyone saying the eMMC is likely correct.
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S/N: 510KPCA...
H790
Manufactured: 10/2015

Is the nougat bootloop problem will be resolved by google? I have Nexus 5x 32gb (h791 international version, manufactured 10/2015) with 6.0.1 and I'm too afraid to upgrade to 7.0 because officially Nexus 5x is not available in my country although there's LG smartphone service center here (I bought it online and let's just say it's virtually without warranty).

EeZeEpEe said:
Update:
Looks like the expedited shipping was covered by them. The hold was removed from my credit card and no shipping charge remaining.
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This was my experience as well. I had an earpiece speaker die in my 5x, so I would have gladly paid the $19 anyway, but much to my surprise, I didn't have to. Very glad I bought the phone through the Play store now, the support and exchange process was excellent.

innov said:
Is the nougat bootloop problem will be resolved by google? I have Nexus 5x 32gb (h791 international version, manufactured 10/2015) with 6.0.1 and I'm too afraid to upgrade to 7.0 because officially Nexus 5x is not available in my country although there's LG smartphone service center here (I bought it online and let's just say it's virtually without warranty).
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There's kind of a debate going on as to whether it's really the update or if it's an eMMC hardware issue.
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The only reason I think it's eMMC or at least the connection with it is:
- My recovery won't always load also.
- TWRP would also freeze even if I try to boot into it without flashing it.
- I've flashed factory image without wiping data. result: It did boot once but got stuck and reboot after few minutes of hiccups.
- It freezes in different parts when loading.
- My device worked well for a long time with 7.0. more than a month / since the first day the 7.0 OTA from the 7.0 beta was out...
- I saw some hiccups few days before it died randomly when shooting 4K videos. felt like dropouts.
(placebo: my device was sluggish with 6.0 and 7.0 beta actually made it functional. with 6.0 I was quite disappointed with the performance).

ttg said:
The only reason I think it's eMMC or at least the connection with it is:
- My recovery won't always load also.
- TWRP would also freeze even if I try to boot into it without flashing it.
- I've flashed factory image without wiping data. result: It did boot once but got stuck and reboot after few minutes of hiccups.
- It freezes in different parts when loading.
- My device worked well for a long time with 7.0. more than a month / since the first day the 7.0 OTA from the 7.0 beta was out...
- I saw some hiccups few days before it died randomly when shooting 4K videos. felt like dropouts.
(placebo: my device was sluggish with 6.0 and 7.0 beta actually made it functional. with 6.0 I was quite disappointed with the performance).
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It is definitely a hardware problem.
In many cases eMMC is involved.
It is unclear whether the chip is failing or the solder joints are failing.
LG has acknowledge a defect with the LG G4 (cousin of 5x) where the solder joints were failing.
There are videos showing heating the chip using SMD hot air rework station can restore functionality on a LG G4. I don't know of anybody who has tried same with 5x.
Given there were reports of phones on Marshmallow just rebooting in the middle of seemingly innocuous things like texting and then being stuck in a bootloop with all stock software, locked bootloader, IMO Android 7 has little to do with the problem and it is mostly coincidental it happens after an update. It is possible Android 7 runs the CPU a little more and maybe that exacerbates a solder joint problem for some phones, but the core problem would still be solder joints as melting point of lead-free solder is quite high (220C/428F)

ttg said:
(placebo: my device was sluggish with 6.0 and 7.0 beta actually made it functional. with 6.0 I was quite disappointed with the performance).
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7.0 helped a lot with my old device but my replacement is way better than my original ever was.
sfhub said:
It is definitely a hardware problem.
In many cases eMMC is involved.
It is unclear whether the chip is failing or the solder joints are failing.
LG has acknowledge a defect with the LG G4 (cousin of 5x) where the solder joints were failing.
There are videos showing heating the chip using SMD hot air rework station can restore functionality on a LG G4. I don't know of anybody who has tried same with 5x.
Given there were reports of phones on Marshmallow just rebooting in the middle of seemingly innocuous things like texting and then being stuck in a bootloop with all stock software, locked bootloader, IMO Android 7 has little to do with the problem and it is mostly coincidental it happens after an update. It is possible Android 7 runs the CPU a little more and maybe that exacerbates a solder joint problem for some phones, but the core problem would still be solder joints as melting point of lead-free solder is quite high (220C/428F)
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Yeah I think it's probably just coincidence that Nougat was released and eMMC failures were happening around the same time.
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EeZeEpEe said:
7.0 helped a lot with my old device but my replacement is way better than my original ever was.
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Do you remember if you ever looked to see whether your "big" cores (CPUs 5 & 6) were often disabled?
I am wondering if a solder joint problem can sometimes manifest itself in CPU operating in degraded condition where it doesn't run the "big" cores as often or at all.
I noticed on a friend's 5x, it was always running hot for some reason, which triggered a thermal safety measure where the "big" cores are disabled. Whenever the 5x is in that condition, it runs very sluggishly, but once the phone cools down, it goes back to running normal/fast.
It would be funny if alot of the complaints about the 5x being sluggish ended up being because of bad solder joints. Then the people that reported sluggishness would be correct and the people who reported things being snappy were also correct, the former really just had hardware defects, but not the obvious type.

sfhub said:
Do you remember if you ever looked to see whether your "big" cores (CPUs 5 & 6) were often disabled?
I am wondering if a solder joint problem can sometimes manifest itself in CPU operating in degraded condition where it doesn't run the "big" cores as often or at all.
I noticed on a friend's 5x, it was always running hot for some reason, which triggered a thermal safety measure where the "big" cores are disabled. Whenever the 5x is in that condition, it runs very sluggishly, but once the phone cools down, it goes back to running normal/fast.
It would be funny if alot of the complaints about the 5x being sluggish ended up being because of bad solder joints. Then the people that reported sluggishness would be correct and the people who reported things being snappy were also correct, the former really just had hardware defects, but not the obvious type.
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I never did check how the cores were running but I did have a widget monitoring the temperature and would notice pretty high spikes. That last statement you made is the exact situation I was in. I guess I would rather have a sluggish performance defect than a burning battery one. LOL
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I think it is going back...

Got my OP5 yesterday, just used it for less than a day but I think I am returning it... The following are the issues I have:
1. Wifi hotspot not working with Echo Dot. It can connect but can't play any music.
2. Battery life is not at all impressive... I started using it this morning at around 8am, and by noon it's down to 50%... That's my normal usage... kind of disappointing.
3. Picture quality not impressive... and don't like the camera app that much. Also saw that 4K video is very shaky without OIS.
So, maybe hang on to it for a few days before sending it back... Who else is returning?
BTW, what is the best way to ship it back (from San Diego to LA, I suppose)? I assume I need to pay for return shipment, and I probably want to have insurance to cover the cost of the device...

Contact OP to arrange a return. I have read on the forums that someone has already done this, and OP arranged a return label for the buyer.

L22EEW said:
Contact OP to arrange a return. I have read on the forums that someone has already done this, and OP arranged a return label for the buyer.
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Thanks for the tips, just submit my RMA request.

namartlu said:
Got my OP5 yesterday, just used it for less than a day but I think I am returning it... The following are the issues I have:
1. Wifi hotspot not working with Echo Dot. It can connect but can't play any music.
2. Battery life is not at all impressive... I started using it this morning at around 8am, and by noon it's down to 50%... That's my normal usage... kind of disappointing.
3. Picture quality not impressive... and don't like the camera app that much. Also saw that 4K video is very shaky without OIS.
So, maybe hang on to it for a few days before sending it back... Who else is returning?
BTW, what is the best way to ship it back (from San Diego to LA, I suppose)? I assume I need to pay for return shipment, and I probably want to have insurance to cover the cost of the device...
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What phone did you use prior to OP5?
I think #1 will be resolved. #2 may need a little more time to determine battery longevity. 24-48 is not enough.
Camera will probably get better. Video on 4k is a lost cause. TBH, 4k on any phone camera right now is not worth it. Buy a real camera for solid 4k footage.
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L22EEW said:
Contact OP to arrange a return. I have read on the forums that someone has already done this, and OP arranged a return label for the buyer.
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martinezma99 said:
What phone did you use prior to OP5?
I think #1 will be resolved. #2 may need a little more time to determine battery longevity. 24-48 is not enough.
Camera will probably get better. Video on 4k is a lost cause. TBH, 4k on any phone camera right now is not worth it. Buy a real camera for solid 4k footage.
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I come from Moto X Pure, need to charge the phone every now and then even when it is new, and recently the battery is dying, I just have someone replaced it and now it's working fine. I will play with it a few more days, but the hotspot thing I am using it daily so it's troublesome, and don't know when or if it will be fixed. The weird thing is that I could tether my ipad to it and get Youtube and stuff alright.

Haven't gotten mine yet but have a question on the hotspot issue. Is this the normal hotspot that you would share your connection with say a tablet ECT? or something different? I use my hotspot everyday mon-fri to watch vids on my tablet during lunch. is that functionally working? or is the problem just with the echo dot?
also just my 10 cents on the 4k video. I'm not a YouTube vlogger and have no need to do anything in 4k so that is a non-issue for me. And like said above, 24 hours it not enough for a battery test.

I came from a OP3, and might be sticking with it to be honest. Prior to my OP3, I had a LG G2 (D802).
If I do send the OP5 back, I might be considering the LG G6.
My order still hasn't been despatch, and we are now into day 3 passed the despatch date (as my order despatch date was/estimated for 23rd June!)
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L22EEW said:
Contact OP to arrange a return. I have read on the forums that someone has already done this, and OP arranged a return label for the buyer.
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martinezma99 said:
What phone did you use prior to OP5?
I think #1 will be resolved. #2 may need a little more time to determine battery longevity. 24-48 is not enough.
Camera will probably get better. Video on 4k is a lost cause. TBH, 4k on any phone camera right now is not worth it. Buy a real camera for solid 4k footage.
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bamfsig45 said:
Haven't gotten mine yet but have a question on the hotspot issue. Is this the normal hotspot that you would share your connection with say a tablet ECT? or something different? I use my hotspot everyday mon-fri to watch vids on my tablet during lunch. is that functionally working? or is the problem just with the echo dot?
also just my 10 cents on the 4k video. I'm not a YouTube vlogger and have no need to do anything in 4k so that is a non-issue for me. And like said above, 24 hours it not enough for a battery test.
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The issue is very peculiar, affect only the Echo Dot, otherwise it seems ok. However my old phone Moto X Pure has no problem tethering my Echo Dot... I would think the WiFi Hotspot is a standard feature of the OS...

L22EEW said:
I came from a OP3, and might be sticking with it to be honest. Prior to my OP3, I had a LG G2 (D802).
If I do send the OP5 back, I might be considering the LG G6.
My order still hasn't been despatch, and we are now into day 3 passed the despatch date (as my order despatch date was/estimated for 23rd June!)
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I like the fingerpint sensor in the front... LG G6 has it in the back. Actually the OP5 is very good in that regards, fingerprint sensor on home button, and then capacitive buttons for back and recent, saving some screen space, so although it's 5.5 inch, effectively it is comparable to my 5.7 inch Moto X Pure....

Just installed another system update... let me use it for a couple more days and see if I change my mind...

Got mine Saturday, I like it so far, only thing I will say is the edge from glass to frame doesn't seem smooth. I don't know if it's my phone of if they are all like it though.

DaveP2611 said:
Got mine Saturday, I like it so far, only thing I will say is the edge from glass to frame doesn't seem smooth. I don't know if it's my phone of if they are all like it though.
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You do know there is a screen protector on it right and the screen is only 2D not 3D and I believe everyone's it like that it should look like the screen is a little bit tucked in the frame

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You do know there is a screen protector on it right and the screen is only 2D not 3D and I believe everyone's it like that it should look like the screen is a little bit tucked in the frame
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Yes the screen protector doesn't cover the whole glasss and it's the bit from the edge of glass to frame that just isn't smooth like the OP3T I have. It's almost like the glass is sunk too far in to the frame causing a slight lip to it.

I'm deciding whether or not to RMA mine; I am coming from OP 3 and the change isn't that large to warrant 589.00$ so far. I'll decide tomorrow.

I kind of like my OP5. But I come from OPO,s quite an update for me. :laugh:

I'm slightly surprised a few OP3 owners have upgraded to the OP5. Apart from the camera, I just can't see the reason for upgrading. Its not as if the OP3 is slow, has bad support or has a major hardware issue.
To the OP3 owners who have upgraded. Is there really that much difference? Is the difference worth the money?

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I'm slightly surprised a few OP3 owners have upgraded to the OP5. Apart from the camera, I just can't see the reason for upgrading. Its not as if the OP3 is slow, has bad support or has a major hardware issue.
To the OP3 owners who have upgraded. Is there really that much difference? Is the difference worth the money?
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I do not even see the need to upgrade for the camera.
Sure, a wider aperture sounds better in lowlight and the second sensor with zoom and portrait mode is a nice addition.
But apart from the camera reviews (some don't even sound that good), all comparison shots on the OP3 look as good, sometimes even better than the OP5. The sensor has the same size, so we still see the same slow shutter-speed in lowlight which will cause more blur due to handshake and the missing OIS. Even in daylight (especially with HDR) I've seen shots which were heavily postprocessed waterpaintings because of handshake.
This device certainly has less value for money compared to the OP3 back then. It's still affordable, but you basically get what you pay for.
If Samsung e.g. built a device with the same specs, it would probably not cost that much more after a short period of time.

namartlu said:
Got my OP5 yesterday, just used it for less than a day but I think I am returning it... The following are the issues I have:
1. Wifi hotspot not working with Echo Dot. It can connect but can't play any music.
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I had issues connecting PS3 controller to phone, I couldn't get it to work nor via BT nor via USB. It seems that they not included some drivers in OP5 kernel, so I installed first available custom kernel which seems to have all standard drivers and now I have no problems connecting PS3 controller via BT and USB. That may be can solve your problem too and other problems related to connecting to external devices.

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I do not even see the need to upgrade for the camera.
Sure, a wider aperture sounds better in lowlight and the second sensor with zoom and portrait mode is a nice addition.
But apart from the camera reviews (some don't even sound that good), all comparison shots on the OP3 look as good, sometimes even better than the OP5. The sensor has the same size, so we still see the same slow shutter-speed in lowlight which will cause more blur due to handshake and the missing OIS. Even in daylight (especially with HDR) I've seen shots which were heavily postprocessed waterpaintings because of handshake.
This device certainly has less value for money compared to the OP3 back then. It's still affordable, but you basically get what you pay for.
If Samsung e.g. built a device with the same specs, it would probably not cost that much more after a short period of time.
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Yea, I compared 3T and 5 photos and 3T has way more details even in low light. OP5 details are all watercolored. I see no point in upgrading from OP3T. But as I come from Galaxy S4 I will probably keep mine OP5.

Coming from the oneplus 3 I can honestly say it's an improvement, loving the oneplus 5.