Always wanted a Android Mini PC to use on my living room TV for quick streaming, browsing and possibly for XBMC. With my interst growing and XBMC getting very stable on Android I went for the Tronsmart MK908. I assumed based solely on the model number that it was a better MK808... still not sure it isn't, but anyway.
First thing I did was instal Finless 1.5. Looks great on my 60" Visio in 1080p. Lodaded a decent build of XBMC but the damn little thing overheats and shuts off. Lasts about 10-15 minutes tops once XBMC is running. I've got it plugged in to the TV's USB port for power.
I con't get a bluetooth keyboard to work with it. It pairs but the keys do nothing. (Kensington Slimblade Bluetooth model)
Running in 720p doesn't help with overheating. This thing gets HOTT. Were my expectations too high for this little device?
It feels like more of a experiment or tinkerers toy. I've seen others gut it and add bulging heatsinks, adding fans, changing the enclosure (liek a cigar box with fans etc) and to me these changes completely defeat the purpose of a small hdmi dongle sized android pc and makes the clunky hard to transport.
Thoughts?
Remember these things are built to a price. But you should still expect a decent level of functionality. I suggest under clocking it and put fans on it in a different case. A case of buyer beware if there are a lot of devices like this. Research and gather others opinions on these devices prior to purchase...
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You should try a different power supply. Received wisdom is that cheap ones that come with sticks often cause freeze or shutdown because of the dynamic current load. Use a name-brand one with 1.5 amp capacity or more if you can, but even a 1 amp phone charger will probably be more stable than the included charger.
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ragesoss said:
You should try a different power supply. Received wisdom is that cheap ones that come with sticks often cause freeze or shutdown because of the dynamic current load. Use a name-brand one with 1.5 amp capacity or more if you can, but even a 1 amp phone charger will probably be more stable than the included charger.
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You are right man the only problem that i see here too is the power supply, a usb port on the tv usually outputs only 0.5 amp while the minimum for this quad core is 2 amp. It might work with a good 1 amp power supply but only for main tasks but if you want to see movies in full hd or play games you'll need a lot more than that.
Agreed. Use the included power supply. It's packaged for a reason.
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Agreed. Use the included power supply. It's packaged for a reason.
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actually most chinese minipc sells with extremely underpowered power supplies, they write "2A" or such on them but if you test them they really are just 0.5a or 0.75a
as for tv you shoud check your tv manual, some have low power usb ports that are rated only for usb memory sticks, others have powered usb ports rated for unpowered usb hd.
only the latter kind can juice a minipc - sometimes TV have more than one usb port but only one is hd-rated.
Yeah, I suggest throwing away the included supply. One thing recommended on Freaktab is to buy a PSVita charger (1.5a, ~$10 on Amazon). You have to cut out a bit of plastic for regular USB cables to fit. I got one recently and have had no freezes or reboots since on my mk808b.
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actually most chinese minipc sells with extremely underpowered power supplies, they write "2A" or such on them but if you test them they really are just 0.5a or 0.75a
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Not starting a war here however that's very true true & customers must be aware of this. However I must of been one of the lucky ones as my adapter is pushing 2Amps at 5.1V +/-.5...
Hell I dished out almost a bill for this device the least we can all receive is hardware that's correct from our supplier..
Agreed towards the powered USB within tvs.. Highest Amp rating I seen was on a Samsung model & that was only pushing 1.34Amps.. Nor was it constant as the Amp readings would fluctuate during input presses via remote or on the telly itself via hard key.
Power blocks are key & this device needs every little bit of at least 1.5Amps & even at times that's not enough..
I had a similar issue with my 908. I didn't use the one that came with it because the metal contact on the usb port looked was rusted.
Instead I tried the adapter for my Nexus 4, which is supposed to be a 5v 1a / 2a variable but it froze playing Captain America on Netflix.
I then tried it with my old Nexus 7 [Tegra 3] adapter which is a 5v 2a and it worked perfectly - played the entire movie, no issues (at 1920x1080p @ 60fps). In essence, I do think that whoever buys this stick needs to pick up a 5a 2a solid - no variable chargers. Also, I'd highly recommend not bothering with the wifi on it. Grab a 10/100 or 10/100/1000 ethernet stick and use that.
Good Luck.
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I have read that XBMC has no hardware acceleration on those RK... processors. You need to use alternative video player like MX Player or BS Player.
latest nightles have libstagefrigt hw accel integrated and its working quite good on rockchip devices.
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latest nightles have libstagefrigt hw accel integrated and its working quite good on rockchip devices.
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Got a link?
http://mirrors.xbmc.org/nightlies/android/
What were ur initial expectations btw?
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What were ur initial expectations btw?
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My bad didnt get the first page. We used to sell something with a unit with the same specs they are right your power source is not providing enough juice. Especially ur using a tv usb that usually have 500mA. Try getting a usb charger thats got at least 2A. And android sticks nirmally runs hot though.
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latest nightles have libstagefrigt hw accel integrated and its working quite good on rockchip devices.
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I've tried these nightly xbmc versions months before. It is hw accelerated, because, instead of xbmc' it uses mx player for video playing.
So, it means, you can use mx player directly, you get the same reaults.
But i prefer vondershare player. But it has problems with subtitles.
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The nightlies didn't have libsf very many months ago, though libsf alphas were in the nightly directory. Now all nightlies have libsf support.
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Power Supply/Charger
People who posted "Get a better power supply/charger", which 2amp charger would be ideal?
All main issues (reboot and/or shutdown) are related to the power supply, it's a matter of fact the shipped power adapter sucks.
Some people advised to get the Ipad one, any 2/2.4A one will do the job: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-OEM...ader_Chargers_Sync_Cables&hash=item3f264c673d
Related
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/10/analogix-slim-port-technology-lets-you-connect-your-phone-to-you/
Sometimes, the simplest ideas are the best ones, and Analogix Slim Port technology certainly qualifies as both. It's a cabling solution that allows you to mirror what's on your phone or tablet's screen to your TV via microUSB -- instead of needing an extra HDMI or MHL port. Analogix's secret sauce is on a chip embedded in the jack portion of the cable and because it's based on DisplayPort technology, it can connect using HDMI, VGA, or DVI connections. Of course, as an OEM, Analogix won't be selling the cables when they go on sale this summer, but retailers like Belkin and BizLink will probably be put one in your bag for around $20 or $30 bucks.
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So now we can connect our beloved Play to that TV XD
I think it doesn't work like that... you have to have the tech on your phone (Mobility DisplayPort (MYDP) digital interface) it then allows uncompressed video/audio from a phone over display-port and also allows usb transfer modes
http://www.interconnectionworld.com/index/display/wire-news-display/1578435639.html
It won't work on the play
ff7fan4eva said:
I think it doesn't work like that... you have to have the tech on your phone (Mobility DisplayPort (MYDP) digital interface) it then allows uncompressed video/audio from a phone over display-port and also allows usb transfer modes
http://www.interconnectionworld.com/index/display/wire-news-display/1578435639.html
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i dont get you guys it clearly says it uses the MICRO USB port on the mobile device i mean how much more clearer need it be regardless ive sent an email to analogix and will tell u guys what they say
Why do we have two threads about the exact same thing I dont know
But i'll post the same thing I did over in the other one
Do you think that TV out is just going to magicly work when you plug in USB LOL
FYI your usb port is never outputting video lol. you would have to run some type of program to do it and that will use CPU power
When have you ever plugged usb into your PC and a message comes up "Would you like to mirror image on your screen?"
You guys know the PSP actually had software written for it that allowed USB mirror to desktop and it lagged the device so badly most games weren't playable anymore
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Why do we have two threads about the exact same thing I dont know
But i'll post the same thing I did over in the other one
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You do realize that PSP is less than 1/3rd the Xperia PLAY's overall capability, right?
PSP also couldn't handle any form of graphical MMOs.
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You do realize that PSP is less than 1/3rd the Xperia PLAY's overall capability, right?
PSP also couldn't handle any form of graphical MMOs.
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I wasnt aware of that fact
you got a source i can see for my own eyes? thanks
also my points is still valid. the device aint outputting video as it sits now
You guys know the PSP actually had software written for it that allowed USB mirror to desktop and it lagged the device so badly most games weren't playable anymore
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Thats because it used VNC. VNC lags on anything.
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I wasnt aware of that fact
you got a source i can see for my own eyes? thanks
also my points is still valid. the device aint outputting video as it sits now
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check the spec sheets. Also, notice that the Play has Dev units with HDMI out and they don't lag a little.
A bit off topic, but I don't think I ever posted this while I was analyzing the play for HDMI.
According to the kernel, the Dev plays have this chipset and all Plays have the drivers for it: http://www.analog.com/en/audiovideo-products/analoghdmidvi-interfaces/adv7520/products/product.html
And this can be seen on the Dell Streak: http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Dell-Streak-Teardown/3512/2
Now, I tore apart my Play (when I had it), and I can confirm that that chip is NOT on my retail r800i. This means that there is no "hidden" port or some unfilled solderpads that can be used to attach a microhdmi. There is NO support on the retail motherboard for it. You can't even buy the ADV7520 chip because there are no space on the retail motherboard for it.
There's no chip or hdmi port on the play I've watched dissasemblies of all types r800a,x,I
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There is a solution where you connect to a bluetooth HDMI dongle using your bluetooth and its specific app to stream phone content onto the screen, I think it was mentioned on Engadget but I cannot seem to find the link for it.
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check the spec sheets. Also, notice that the Play has Dev units with HDMI out and they don't lag a little.
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so your dev unit theory is irrelevant because our plays contain none of the architecture to run this setup with hdmi.
would have to find another solution.
Hogwarts said:
so your dev unit theory is irrelevant because our plays contain none of the architecture to run this setup with hdmi.
would have to find another solution.
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I don't have a theory, as I don't care one bit about TV output of any kind. However, you mentioned that the PSP wasn't powerful enough to beam out content, which is not a problem in the Xperia Play (or Arc and Neo for that matter).
Why do people keep saying "the play has no HDMI transmitter" if you read the OP, with this cable the HDMI transmitter is built into the jack, the device does not need one
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Thats because it used VNC. VNC lags on anything.
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Pretty sure it didn't
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Why do people keep saying "the play has no HDMI transmitter" if you read the OP, with this cable the HDMI transmitter is built into the jack, the device does not need one
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FINALLY someone bothers to actually read the goddamed article
So the USB Device registers itself as.. what exactly ?
I mean, the play still has to send it's image to the dongle either way.
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So the USB Device registers itself as.. what exactly ?
I mean, the play still has to send it's image to the dongle either way.
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The adapter is probably accompanied with an app. Although the app would need root acces, atleast I think so.
whilst i think this would be an awesome piece of kit if it works as intended, im a little curious as to how it actually works, afaik the cpu sends its work to the gpu for output, the gpu processes it, and outputs it to the display....so how exactly does the usb port get the information from gpu...maybe easy with root access on one device...but making it work on a wide range of devices would be crazy hard.
im not gonna straight up bash this, because they have said its a vendor agnostic solution, so im assuming they have worked out some technical magic with no downsides to pull this off. I'm all for being proved wrong, i just want to see it in action.
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You do realize that PSP is less than 1/3rd the Xperia PLAY's overall capability, right?
PSP also couldn't handle any form of graphical MMOs.
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First statement is a bit overstated.
By capability the gpu in the PSP has a fillrate of 30 million polygons/s
I believe our Adreno has 52 mil/s
Plus instead of the capability I believe it was the limitation of USB speeds that affected the computer mirroring software.
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I'm just posting this in case others are having this issue... When I got my backed out a it was slow on response and figured it was a wip and would get better...it never did...until I was at my friends showing them xbmc and decided to play ice rage and to my surprise it was buttery smooth....I figured the last update fixed it however when I got home it was dead slow again... So I switched HDMI cords and put it on my other TV and bam perfect.. So it could be something worth trying if your game is slow. This was all factory HDMI cable and all...the aftermarket Philips HDMI cable was way better. Hope this helps some.
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I'm just posting this in case others are having this issue... When I got my backed out a it was slow on response and figured it was a wip and would get better...it never did...until I was at my friends showing them xbmc and decided to play ice rage and to my surprise it was buttery smooth....I figured the last update fixed it however when I got home it was dead slow again... So I switched HDMI cords and put it on my other TV and bam perfect.. So it could be something worth trying if your game is slow. This was all factory HDMI cable and all...the aftermarket Philips HDMI cable was way better. Hope this helps some.
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I've already tested this too, but with old HDMI cable (1.2, 1.3, don't know) and nothing happened. Use Tegra Overclock OUYA, if you have stock cooling it might be noisy, but perfect. OUYA use Tegra profile for decoding I think it's about 200MHz - 350MHz and it's really too slow, if you are running at max 520MHz it's a way better.
That doesn't make any sense. An HDMI cable is just an HDMI cable. It could be that you're using 720p instead of 1080p now (you said you switched TVs), which would make a difference.
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That doesn't make any sense. An HDMI cable is just an HDMI cable. It could be that you're using 720p instead of 1080p now (you said you switched TVs), which would make a difference.
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HDMI cable or TV theoretically can make a difference - I've had a couple inexpensive android sticks (the tiny ones that look like usb drives) not be able to drive a signal to my (crappy, off-brand, but generally decent) TV because the HDMI power draw was too great. (I know this seems like a really weird thing, right? common sense says "huh? it's just digital video and audio data right?" but there is in fact power requirements). shorter and better quality cable actually fixed it for me.
but - usually it's an all or nothing situation. you get the signal or you don't. lower machine performance wouldn't be indicated, I think.
I wanted to start a thread discussing Amazon's new FireTV and removing Amazon's custom ROM and using AOSP.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CX5P8FC
A great piece of hardware.
Size 4.5" x 4.5" x 0.7" (115 mm x 115 mm x 17.5 mm)Weight9.9 oz (281 grams)SOC PlatformQualcomm Snapdragon 8064ProcessorQualcomm Krait 300, quad-core to 1.7 GhzGPU Qualcomm Adreno 320Storage 8 GB internalMemory 2 GB LPDDR2 @ 533 MHZWi-Fi ConnectivityDual-band, dual-antenna Wi-Fi (MIMO) for faster streaming and fewer dropped connections than standard Wi-Fi. Supports public and private Wi-Fi networks that use the 802.11a/b/g/n standard with support for WEP, WPA and WPA2 security using password authenticationBluetooth Bluetooth 4.0 with support for the following profiles: HID, HFP 1.6, SPPPorts 5.5 mm DC Jack
Type A HDMI 1.4b output, w/HDCP
Optical Audio (TOSLINK)
10/100 Ethernet
USB 2.0 Type A
AudioSupport for Dolby Digital Plus, 5.1 surround sound, 2ch Stereo and HDMI audio pass through up to 7.1
Output Resolution Supported 720p and 1080p up to 60fps
I have one on order and will be here tomorrow. 04/03/14
Seems pretty sweet. Root + ROMs even better.
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Seems pretty sweet. Root + ROMs even better.
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Agreed... I am not a developer any longer and do not have ties to get it moving... I guess this will be a waiting game... When we can see root & ROM
No gigabit Ethernet? For a streaming device that you install and never move again until its obsolete? Some of the product decisions these companies make are interesting.
Also, no IR=no integration. I know everyone here is focused on hacking it, but say you do get XBMC running on it smoothly? No universal remote or control system capability?
I tired to resist Apple and got a Roku 3. Dinking around with a second remote and the lack of Netflix profiles sent me over to the dark side.
Kind of not feeling this. The processor is nice, but all the things you are talking about can be done out of the box with something like a G-Box Midnight MX2.
Sorry to be Debby Downer.
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No gigabit Ethernet? For a streaming device that you install and never move again until its obsolete? Some of the product decisions these companies make are interesting.
Also, no IR=no integration. I know everyone here is focused on hacking it, but say you do get XBMC running on it smoothly? No universal remote or control system capability?
I tired to resist Apple and got a Roku 3. Dinking around with a second remote and the lack of Netflix profiles sent me over to the dark side.
Kind of not feeling this. The processor is nice, but all the things you are talking about can be done out of the box with something like a G-Box Midnight MX2.
Sorry to be Debby Downer.
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This remote I have been using for years and work just perfect with my XBMC
http://www.amazon.com/Ortek-Windows...3171&sr=8-9&keywords=remote+control+microsoft
Cost next to nothing with a USB IR receiver.
Got my Fire TV today, can't wait for the hacking community to get in on this one. Looks like its got lots of potential, especially in the retro/emulation arena with the optional remote.
A USB keyboard works great, but the generic WMC ir receiver didn't. So that quick, cheap "hack" didn't pan out.
IR is really irrelevant.. I dont use it.. Bluetooth is all we need!
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IR is really irrelevant.. I dont use it.. Bluetooth is all we need!
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It's not only because you don't use that it means irrelevant. A lot of people have good IR remotes like the Logitech one...
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It's not only because you don't use that it means irrelevant. A lot of people have good IR remotes like the Logitech one...
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Agreed.. My logic and reason is IR is minimally 20yrs old tech that's all but obsolete. IMO...
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Anyone interested in Rooting Amazon FireTV...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2703716
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No gigabit Ethernet? For a streaming device that you install and never move again until its obsolete? Some of the product decisions these companies make are interesting.
Also, no IR=no integration. I know everyone here is focused on hacking it, but say you do get XBMC running on it smoothly? No universal remote or control system capability?
I tired to resist Apple and got a Roku 3. Dinking around with a second remote and the lack of Netflix profiles sent me over to the dark side.
Kind of not feeling this. The processor is nice, but all the things you are talking about can be done out of the box with something like a G-Box Midnight MX2.
Sorry to be Debby Downer.
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Why would you ever need gigabit ethernet for a streaming box? Even a direct play blu-ray tops out around 40Mb...there is absolutely no need for gigabit.
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Why would you ever need gigabit ethernet for a streaming box? Even a direct play blu-ray tops out around 40Mb...there is absolutely no need for gigabit.
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no one needs 10/100/1000 but is it very handy when it comes to transfering files over a gigabit network. Also what does it hurt since gigabit has been out for years. Ouya/ Mojo/ Fire tv all have fastethernet and its annoying that they didnt put gigabit mostly because my whole network is 10/100/1000 and i hate bottlenecks.
i see your point though
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no one needs 10/100/1000 but is it very handy when it comes to transfering files over a gigabit network. Also what does it hurt since gigabit has been out for years. Ouya/ Mojo/ Fire tv all have fastethernet and its annoying that they didnt put gigabit mostly because my whole network is 10/100/1000 and i hate bottlenecks.
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I'm all for fast networks, all our computers at home have one or more solid state drives so even gigabit is not enough at this point. I get why didn't they put it on the FireTV but maybe the hardware inside couldn't talk to the port at 100MB/s anyway so it might not be that these boxes couldn't have Gethernet but that if they did install it your actual throughput might be crap anyway.
Nice that we have a forum/section for this device.
More 2.0 USB ports (no need for a HUB) and Gigabit Ethernet would have definitely made it more desirable.
USB 3.0 will probably come with next year's qualcomm CPUs.
The biggest thing that I'm looking forward to is AOSP ROMs, and the bootloader hacks to install it.
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Why would you ever need gigabit ethernet for a streaming box? Even a direct play blu-ray tops out around 40Mb...there is absolutely no need for gigabit.
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no one needs 10/100/1000 but is it very handy when it comes to transfering files over a gigabit network. Also what does it hurt since gigabit has been out for years. Ouya/ Mojo/ Fire tv all have fastethernet and its annoying that they didnt put gigabit mostly because my whole network is 10/100/1000 and i hate bottlenecks.
i see your point though
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I'm all for fast networks, all our computers at home have one or more solid state drives so even gigabit is not enough at this point. I get why didn't they put it on the FireTV but maybe the hardware inside couldn't talk to the port at 100MB/s anyway so it might not be that these boxes couldn't have Gethernet but that if they did install it your actual throughput might be crap anyway.
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Lol, looks like others jumped in before I got here. For me, it is mostly about downloading to attached storage quickly. Plus, why not? Annoying to leave out a $2 part to make the magic $99 price point.
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This remote I have been using for years and work just perfect with my XBMC
http://www.amazon.com/Ortek-Windows...3171&sr=8-9&keywords=remote+control+microsoft
Cost next to nothing with a USB IR receiver.
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IR is really irrelevant.. I dont use it.. Bluetooth is all we need!
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It's not only because you don't use that it means irrelevant. A lot of people have good IR remotes like the Logitech one...
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Agreed.. My logic and reason is IR is minimally 20yrs old tech that's all but obsolete. IMO...
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It is only sort of obsolete. The thing is, it is the only pretty much universal control platform for AV gear. With a few exceptions like this and the Roku 3, pretty much every AV component has an IR in.
I don't have a Logitech, I have an old URC MX-880 with an RF base station. All my gear is in built-in cabinets in what was supposed to be the media niche in my family room. I have a custom built low profile fireplace mantle, and our firebox is sitting on the slab. This allowed us to mount the TV above the fireplace at a more reasonable height, and more importantly, in the center of the room. The only wires showing are the sub cable and its power cable, and even those just barely. The surround speakers are all in-ceiling ( our family room has almost no wall space...its all open to the kitchen, foyer, bedroom hallway, and windows). So the RF remote kicks butt. The Logitech remotes are nice (wish URC had as many IR codes), but they are not as flexible as a URC, even something as low-end for them as an old MX-880. I used to be in the business, so I have CCP, etc. and can program it myself.
I am not willing to give all that up for a $99 box when I have another $99 box that works with it. Plus, she-who-decides wants one f%$ing remote.
Heh, still better than an X-Box One, lol. (Google "longer cable for Kinect" if you like to read rage.)
I recently put a new deck in my car, and the ONE reason I spent the money I did on it is because of the MHL capability. Now it seems all these new phones don't support MHL. None of the newer Samsung do, and it seems if I'm trying to get one of the top competitor phones, MHL is no longer an option?
Did anyone see/read/hear of MHL being a thing on the 6P? If it turns out that MHL isn't an option stock on this phone, is MHL a thing that can be added via a custom rom, or is it purely hardware?
Thanks for ANY and all help guys!!
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I recently put a new deck in my car, and the ONE reason I spent the money I did on it is because of the MHL capability. Now it seems all these new phones don't support MHL. None of the newer Samsung do, and it seems if I'm trying to get one of the top competitor phones, MHL is no longer an option?
Did anyone see/read/hear of MHL being a thing on the 6P? If it turns out that MHL isn't an option stock on this phone, is MHL a thing that can be added via a custom rom, or is it purely hardware?
Thanks for ANY and all help guys!!
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Haven't seen any news of it, but can confirm there's hardware required as the USB port is different (at least on regular micro usb phones, NFI with USB-C). I can't even plug an MHL cable into my S6, whereas friend with Note 4 it all works easily.
M.
That's kind of what I was thinking as well. Apparently they got rid of the MHL support completely in the S6 and Note5 Line. I read that they don't even have MHL in the Nexus 6.... So I'm really afraid they might not have it here either.... Kind of sucks I guess.
I am about ready to tuck a Miracast adapter behind my dashboard. Then there's no fussing with cables or anything
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you need this bad boy...remember we will have USB-C
http://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=12905
An alternative solution is chromecast has screen mirroring support. Tested it last night with the new chromecast app. Worked very well.
Chromecast needs the phone to be a hotspot and have internet connectivity at start up. Works if the conditions are right, so depends on where you live.
shakuyi said:
you need this bad boy...remember we will have USB-C
http://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=12905
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Only bad thing about that is there won't be a way to charge the phone at the same time.
and it does not work. Apparently google took the easy road and implemented only USB2.0 with USB Type C.
This means faster transfer speed - bull
Fast charge only because of qualcomm quick charge 2.0
No alternate modes (MHL, HDMI)
source: droid-life.com nexus-5x-and-6p-reddit-ama-highlights-name-meaning-usb-2-0-no-qi-charging-and-more
ti2095 said:
and it does not work. Apparently google took the easy road and implemented only USB2.0 with USB Type C.
This means faster transfer speed - bull
Fast charge only because of qualcomm quick charge 2.0
No alternate modes (MHL, HDMI)
source: droid-life.com nexus-5x-and-6p-reddit-ama-highlights-name-meaning-usb-2-0-no-qi-charging-and-more
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They mentioned in their Q&A, that the usb is 2.0 because it's always on and 3.0 takes more power apparently.
Not sure if correct, just relaying info
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ti2095 said:
and it does not work. Apparently google took the easy road and implemented only USB2.0 with USB Type C.
This means faster transfer speed - bull
Fast charge only because of qualcomm quick charge 2.0
No alternate modes (MHL, HDMI)
source: droid-life.com nexus-5x-and-6p-reddit-ama-highlights-name-meaning-usb-2-0-no-qi-charging-and-more
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From what I understand, this phone does not support Qualcomm's QuickCharge. Every Google page on this phone says "Fast Charging". That's freaking bogus, too. It's part of the Qualcomm 810 processor. Why the heck not??? If the hardware is in there, its possible it could be enabled through a kernel tweak. No guarantees though.
And for that matter, that processor supports wireless charging through metal. Just give me DISPLAYPORT!
CNLiberal said:
From what I understand, this phone does not support Qualcomm's QuickCharge. Every Google page on this phone says "Fast Charging". That's freaking bogus, too. It's part of the Qualcomm 810 processor. Why the heck not??? If the hardware is in there, its possible it could be enabled through a kernel tweak. No guarantees though.
And for that matter, that processor supports wireless charging through metal. Just give me DISPLAYPORT!
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Uhh yes it does support quick charge. 10 mins charge give it 7 hours of use if I remember correctly. This isn't the Oppo OnePlus that tries to sugar coat things and sell you garbage.
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No HDMI has been confirmed.
[–]strabbit 135 points 1 day ago
Will either the Nexus 5x or 6p support HDMI via the USB-C connector?
[–]google_nexus_team 115 points 1 day ago
DB> Nope. But Cast mirroring to ChromeCast or Android TV has got really good. And Chromecasts are only $35. And we have new ones announced yesterday.
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For the in dash solution, get one of these.
http://www.amazon.com/Interface-Str...UTF8&qid=1443793137&sr=8-6&keywords=crux+wifi
Then you can still charge it.
MHL and HDMI will not work on the 6P. The direct answer from the devs:
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/3mzrl9/hi_im_hiroshi_lockheimer_here_at_google_with_the/cvjm6jl?context=1
We know thanks,, posted about 5 times just above yours...
Nothing new here, the Nexus 6 didn't have it either.
Slimport on the Nexus 5 was an LG thing...
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DrunkFuX666 said:
Uhh yes it does support quick charge. 10 mins charge give it 7 hours of use if I remember correctly. This isn't the Oppo OnePlus that tries to sugar coat things and sell you garbage.
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Unfortunately, it does not support "Quick Charge" Everything Google has said is "Fast Charge" which is not the QC standard. All your chargers you have now, are slow and useless to the 6P.
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Big Cam said:
For the in dash solution, get one of these.
http://www.amazon.com/Interface-Str...UTF8&qid=1443793137&sr=8-6&keywords=crux+wifi
Then you can still charge it.
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Not sure if serious.......
So far Sony is doing a really good job with keeping the Xperia line with the MHL connections.
Big Cam said:
For the in dash solution, get one of these.
http://www.amazon.com/Interface-Str...UTF8&qid=1443793137&sr=8-6&keywords=crux+wifi
Then you can still charge it.
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I was doing some research and found this thread. That CRUX looks interesting, but seems like Chromecast may be the way to go for $35.
Hi guys!
I know that USB type C can map to several devices (even VGA/HDMI).
How do we know which ones are supported?
I'd fancy buying a USB<->HDMI Adapter (smilar to the Slimport<>HDMI I have for my Nexus5).
Will it be supported?
It's not USB 3.1 so I don't know if all of those would still be supported.
In the reddit AMA the developers confirmed it would not have HDMI out. You could always mirror it with a chromecast though.
Then why USB Type-C if none of the goodies? Just for fast-charging and reversability?
Casting takes a lot of power and heat.
(Isn't losing video-out another downgrade?)
Alferboy said:
Then why USB Type-C if none of the goodies? Just for fast-charging and reversability?
Casting takes a lot of power and heat.
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Well, quoting myself... Actually would the rendering at the device with dedicated hardware give up more heat than broadcasting via WiFi?
Which would take more power?
Allways believe that any kind of "air transmission" is quite power-consuming.
Alferboy said:
Then why USB Type-C if none of the goodies? Just for fast-charging and reversability?
Casting takes a lot of power and heat.
(Isn't losing video-out another downgrade?)
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Yeah it is a downgrade. I never cared if a phone could stream HDMI before, but now that I'm seeing a 6P as way to carry a single device (no more tablet with HDMI + phone), it is disappointing. Plus, when I read about USB-C having so many capabilities, I was hoping the phone would include some of them instead of it just being a connector choice.
Strange choice leaving out the HDMI stuff etc. Don't understand it. I wonder if the 810 gets too hot outputting to HDMI.
I don't know if people would use stuff other than OTG or video-out. But it'd definitely be nice for some guys for other devices (even though most can be connected to OTG).
Ok... really just video-out
Casting generating less heat than rendering video... hmm..... no idea...
Alferboy said:
I don't know if people would use stuff other than OTG or video-out. But it'd definitely be nice for some guys for other devices (even though most can be connected to OTG).
Ok... really just video-out
Casting generating less heat than rendering video... hmm..... no idea...
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If you have ever done presentations using a micro-usb to HDMI cable, you know that this puts a lot of stress on the connector. And having to drag a cable all over the place is an inconvenience. This is with a Nexus 7 (2013). For me, the presence of WiFi Direct and hence Miracast is far more important. I find that with the Nexus 7 at least, Miracast works perfectly. I use an Actiontec Screenbeam Mini2 as a dongle. I am anticipatinf that the Nexus 6p will work as well, but we will see.
why do you want a big cable connect to your tv/monitor?
I imagine Google want you to use their Chromecast ?
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DaveHTC200 said:
I imagine Google want you to use their Chromecast ?
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Yep, Google wants a wireless world.... Minus charging... Lol
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Smallsmx3 said:
Yep, Google wants a wireless world.... Minus charging... Lol
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Yeah, I LOL'd. In public. For no apparent reason. Thanks.
ScreenBeam Mini2 & Nexus 6P
Please let us know if it works.
CYoung234 said:
If you have ever done presentations using a micro-usb to HDMI cable, you know that this puts a lot of stress on the connector. And having to drag a cable all over the place is an inconvenience. This is with a Nexus 7 (2013). For me, the presence of WiFi Direct and hence Miracast is far more important. I find that with the Nexus 7 at least, Miracast works perfectly. I use an Actiontec Screenbeam Mini2 as a dongle. I am anticipatinf that the Nexus 6p will work as well, but we will see.
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warplane95 said:
why do you want a big cable connect to your tv/monitor?
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I don't think anyone wants the cable, per se. It is plug-n-play that we want. How do you go to a friend's house, hotel, couch-surfing, etc., and watch a movie that is on your Nexus 6P (on whatever televion is available).