I wanted to start a thread discussing Amazon's new FireTV and removing Amazon's custom ROM and using AOSP.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CX5P8FC
A great piece of hardware.
Size 4.5" x 4.5" x 0.7" (115 mm x 115 mm x 17.5 mm)Weight9.9 oz (281 grams)SOC PlatformQualcomm Snapdragon 8064ProcessorQualcomm Krait 300, quad-core to 1.7 GhzGPU Qualcomm Adreno 320Storage 8 GB internalMemory 2 GB LPDDR2 @ 533 MHZWi-Fi ConnectivityDual-band, dual-antenna Wi-Fi (MIMO) for faster streaming and fewer dropped connections than standard Wi-Fi. Supports public and private Wi-Fi networks that use the 802.11a/b/g/n standard with support for WEP, WPA and WPA2 security using password authenticationBluetooth Bluetooth 4.0 with support for the following profiles: HID, HFP 1.6, SPPPorts 5.5 mm DC Jack
Type A HDMI 1.4b output, w/HDCP
Optical Audio (TOSLINK)
10/100 Ethernet
USB 2.0 Type A
AudioSupport for Dolby Digital Plus, 5.1 surround sound, 2ch Stereo and HDMI audio pass through up to 7.1
Output Resolution Supported 720p and 1080p up to 60fps
I have one on order and will be here tomorrow. 04/03/14
Seems pretty sweet. Root + ROMs even better.
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Seems pretty sweet. Root + ROMs even better.
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Agreed... I am not a developer any longer and do not have ties to get it moving... I guess this will be a waiting game... When we can see root & ROM
No gigabit Ethernet? For a streaming device that you install and never move again until its obsolete? Some of the product decisions these companies make are interesting.
Also, no IR=no integration. I know everyone here is focused on hacking it, but say you do get XBMC running on it smoothly? No universal remote or control system capability?
I tired to resist Apple and got a Roku 3. Dinking around with a second remote and the lack of Netflix profiles sent me over to the dark side.
Kind of not feeling this. The processor is nice, but all the things you are talking about can be done out of the box with something like a G-Box Midnight MX2.
Sorry to be Debby Downer.
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No gigabit Ethernet? For a streaming device that you install and never move again until its obsolete? Some of the product decisions these companies make are interesting.
Also, no IR=no integration. I know everyone here is focused on hacking it, but say you do get XBMC running on it smoothly? No universal remote or control system capability?
I tired to resist Apple and got a Roku 3. Dinking around with a second remote and the lack of Netflix profiles sent me over to the dark side.
Kind of not feeling this. The processor is nice, but all the things you are talking about can be done out of the box with something like a G-Box Midnight MX2.
Sorry to be Debby Downer.
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This remote I have been using for years and work just perfect with my XBMC
http://www.amazon.com/Ortek-Windows...3171&sr=8-9&keywords=remote+control+microsoft
Cost next to nothing with a USB IR receiver.
Got my Fire TV today, can't wait for the hacking community to get in on this one. Looks like its got lots of potential, especially in the retro/emulation arena with the optional remote.
A USB keyboard works great, but the generic WMC ir receiver didn't. So that quick, cheap "hack" didn't pan out.
IR is really irrelevant.. I dont use it.. Bluetooth is all we need!
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IR is really irrelevant.. I dont use it.. Bluetooth is all we need!
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It's not only because you don't use that it means irrelevant. A lot of people have good IR remotes like the Logitech one...
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It's not only because you don't use that it means irrelevant. A lot of people have good IR remotes like the Logitech one...
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Agreed.. My logic and reason is IR is minimally 20yrs old tech that's all but obsolete. IMO...
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Anyone interested in Rooting Amazon FireTV...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2703716
brizey said:
No gigabit Ethernet? For a streaming device that you install and never move again until its obsolete? Some of the product decisions these companies make are interesting.
Also, no IR=no integration. I know everyone here is focused on hacking it, but say you do get XBMC running on it smoothly? No universal remote or control system capability?
I tired to resist Apple and got a Roku 3. Dinking around with a second remote and the lack of Netflix profiles sent me over to the dark side.
Kind of not feeling this. The processor is nice, but all the things you are talking about can be done out of the box with something like a G-Box Midnight MX2.
Sorry to be Debby Downer.
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Why would you ever need gigabit ethernet for a streaming box? Even a direct play blu-ray tops out around 40Mb...there is absolutely no need for gigabit.
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Why would you ever need gigabit ethernet for a streaming box? Even a direct play blu-ray tops out around 40Mb...there is absolutely no need for gigabit.
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no one needs 10/100/1000 but is it very handy when it comes to transfering files over a gigabit network. Also what does it hurt since gigabit has been out for years. Ouya/ Mojo/ Fire tv all have fastethernet and its annoying that they didnt put gigabit mostly because my whole network is 10/100/1000 and i hate bottlenecks.
i see your point though
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no one needs 10/100/1000 but is it very handy when it comes to transfering files over a gigabit network. Also what does it hurt since gigabit has been out for years. Ouya/ Mojo/ Fire tv all have fastethernet and its annoying that they didnt put gigabit mostly because my whole network is 10/100/1000 and i hate bottlenecks.
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I'm all for fast networks, all our computers at home have one or more solid state drives so even gigabit is not enough at this point. I get why didn't they put it on the FireTV but maybe the hardware inside couldn't talk to the port at 100MB/s anyway so it might not be that these boxes couldn't have Gethernet but that if they did install it your actual throughput might be crap anyway.
Nice that we have a forum/section for this device.
More 2.0 USB ports (no need for a HUB) and Gigabit Ethernet would have definitely made it more desirable.
USB 3.0 will probably come with next year's qualcomm CPUs.
The biggest thing that I'm looking forward to is AOSP ROMs, and the bootloader hacks to install it.
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Why would you ever need gigabit ethernet for a streaming box? Even a direct play blu-ray tops out around 40Mb...there is absolutely no need for gigabit.
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no one needs 10/100/1000 but is it very handy when it comes to transfering files over a gigabit network. Also what does it hurt since gigabit has been out for years. Ouya/ Mojo/ Fire tv all have fastethernet and its annoying that they didnt put gigabit mostly because my whole network is 10/100/1000 and i hate bottlenecks.
i see your point though
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I'm all for fast networks, all our computers at home have one or more solid state drives so even gigabit is not enough at this point. I get why didn't they put it on the FireTV but maybe the hardware inside couldn't talk to the port at 100MB/s anyway so it might not be that these boxes couldn't have Gethernet but that if they did install it your actual throughput might be crap anyway.
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Lol, looks like others jumped in before I got here. For me, it is mostly about downloading to attached storage quickly. Plus, why not? Annoying to leave out a $2 part to make the magic $99 price point.
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This remote I have been using for years and work just perfect with my XBMC
http://www.amazon.com/Ortek-Windows...3171&sr=8-9&keywords=remote+control+microsoft
Cost next to nothing with a USB IR receiver.
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IR is really irrelevant.. I dont use it.. Bluetooth is all we need!
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It's not only because you don't use that it means irrelevant. A lot of people have good IR remotes like the Logitech one...
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Agreed.. My logic and reason is IR is minimally 20yrs old tech that's all but obsolete. IMO...
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It is only sort of obsolete. The thing is, it is the only pretty much universal control platform for AV gear. With a few exceptions like this and the Roku 3, pretty much every AV component has an IR in.
I don't have a Logitech, I have an old URC MX-880 with an RF base station. All my gear is in built-in cabinets in what was supposed to be the media niche in my family room. I have a custom built low profile fireplace mantle, and our firebox is sitting on the slab. This allowed us to mount the TV above the fireplace at a more reasonable height, and more importantly, in the center of the room. The only wires showing are the sub cable and its power cable, and even those just barely. The surround speakers are all in-ceiling ( our family room has almost no wall space...its all open to the kitchen, foyer, bedroom hallway, and windows). So the RF remote kicks butt. The Logitech remotes are nice (wish URC had as many IR codes), but they are not as flexible as a URC, even something as low-end for them as an old MX-880. I used to be in the business, so I have CCP, etc. and can program it myself.
I am not willing to give all that up for a $99 box when I have another $99 box that works with it. Plus, she-who-decides wants one f%$ing remote.
Heh, still better than an X-Box One, lol. (Google "longer cable for Kinect" if you like to read rage.)
Related
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/10/analogix-slim-port-technology-lets-you-connect-your-phone-to-you/
Sometimes, the simplest ideas are the best ones, and Analogix Slim Port technology certainly qualifies as both. It's a cabling solution that allows you to mirror what's on your phone or tablet's screen to your TV via microUSB -- instead of needing an extra HDMI or MHL port. Analogix's secret sauce is on a chip embedded in the jack portion of the cable and because it's based on DisplayPort technology, it can connect using HDMI, VGA, or DVI connections. Of course, as an OEM, Analogix won't be selling the cables when they go on sale this summer, but retailers like Belkin and BizLink will probably be put one in your bag for around $20 or $30 bucks.
-engadget
So now we can connect our beloved Play to that TV XD
I think it doesn't work like that... you have to have the tech on your phone (Mobility DisplayPort (MYDP) digital interface) it then allows uncompressed video/audio from a phone over display-port and also allows usb transfer modes
http://www.interconnectionworld.com/index/display/wire-news-display/1578435639.html
It won't work on the play
ff7fan4eva said:
I think it doesn't work like that... you have to have the tech on your phone (Mobility DisplayPort (MYDP) digital interface) it then allows uncompressed video/audio from a phone over display-port and also allows usb transfer modes
http://www.interconnectionworld.com/index/display/wire-news-display/1578435639.html
It won't work on the play
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i dont get you guys it clearly says it uses the MICRO USB port on the mobile device i mean how much more clearer need it be regardless ive sent an email to analogix and will tell u guys what they say
Why do we have two threads about the exact same thing I dont know
But i'll post the same thing I did over in the other one
Do you think that TV out is just going to magicly work when you plug in USB LOL
FYI your usb port is never outputting video lol. you would have to run some type of program to do it and that will use CPU power
When have you ever plugged usb into your PC and a message comes up "Would you like to mirror image on your screen?"
You guys know the PSP actually had software written for it that allowed USB mirror to desktop and it lagged the device so badly most games weren't playable anymore
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Why do we have two threads about the exact same thing I dont know
But i'll post the same thing I did over in the other one
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You do realize that PSP is less than 1/3rd the Xperia PLAY's overall capability, right?
PSP also couldn't handle any form of graphical MMOs.
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You do realize that PSP is less than 1/3rd the Xperia PLAY's overall capability, right?
PSP also couldn't handle any form of graphical MMOs.
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I wasnt aware of that fact
you got a source i can see for my own eyes? thanks
also my points is still valid. the device aint outputting video as it sits now
You guys know the PSP actually had software written for it that allowed USB mirror to desktop and it lagged the device so badly most games weren't playable anymore
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Thats because it used VNC. VNC lags on anything.
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I wasnt aware of that fact
you got a source i can see for my own eyes? thanks
also my points is still valid. the device aint outputting video as it sits now
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check the spec sheets. Also, notice that the Play has Dev units with HDMI out and they don't lag a little.
A bit off topic, but I don't think I ever posted this while I was analyzing the play for HDMI.
According to the kernel, the Dev plays have this chipset and all Plays have the drivers for it: http://www.analog.com/en/audiovideo-products/analoghdmidvi-interfaces/adv7520/products/product.html
And this can be seen on the Dell Streak: http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Dell-Streak-Teardown/3512/2
Now, I tore apart my Play (when I had it), and I can confirm that that chip is NOT on my retail r800i. This means that there is no "hidden" port or some unfilled solderpads that can be used to attach a microhdmi. There is NO support on the retail motherboard for it. You can't even buy the ADV7520 chip because there are no space on the retail motherboard for it.
There's no chip or hdmi port on the play I've watched dissasemblies of all types r800a,x,I
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There is a solution where you connect to a bluetooth HDMI dongle using your bluetooth and its specific app to stream phone content onto the screen, I think it was mentioned on Engadget but I cannot seem to find the link for it.
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check the spec sheets. Also, notice that the Play has Dev units with HDMI out and they don't lag a little.
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so your dev unit theory is irrelevant because our plays contain none of the architecture to run this setup with hdmi.
would have to find another solution.
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so your dev unit theory is irrelevant because our plays contain none of the architecture to run this setup with hdmi.
would have to find another solution.
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I don't have a theory, as I don't care one bit about TV output of any kind. However, you mentioned that the PSP wasn't powerful enough to beam out content, which is not a problem in the Xperia Play (or Arc and Neo for that matter).
Why do people keep saying "the play has no HDMI transmitter" if you read the OP, with this cable the HDMI transmitter is built into the jack, the device does not need one
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Thats because it used VNC. VNC lags on anything.
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Pretty sure it didn't
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Why do people keep saying "the play has no HDMI transmitter" if you read the OP, with this cable the HDMI transmitter is built into the jack, the device does not need one
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FINALLY someone bothers to actually read the goddamed article
So the USB Device registers itself as.. what exactly ?
I mean, the play still has to send it's image to the dongle either way.
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So the USB Device registers itself as.. what exactly ?
I mean, the play still has to send it's image to the dongle either way.
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The adapter is probably accompanied with an app. Although the app would need root acces, atleast I think so.
whilst i think this would be an awesome piece of kit if it works as intended, im a little curious as to how it actually works, afaik the cpu sends its work to the gpu for output, the gpu processes it, and outputs it to the display....so how exactly does the usb port get the information from gpu...maybe easy with root access on one device...but making it work on a wide range of devices would be crazy hard.
im not gonna straight up bash this, because they have said its a vendor agnostic solution, so im assuming they have worked out some technical magic with no downsides to pull this off. I'm all for being proved wrong, i just want to see it in action.
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You do realize that PSP is less than 1/3rd the Xperia PLAY's overall capability, right?
PSP also couldn't handle any form of graphical MMOs.
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First statement is a bit overstated.
By capability the gpu in the PSP has a fillrate of 30 million polygons/s
I believe our Adreno has 52 mil/s
Plus instead of the capability I believe it was the limitation of USB speeds that affected the computer mirroring software.
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Has anyone had a chance to try out these new Android Micro/Mini computers yet?
First impressions?
Would you use as your main media centre now XBMC is Android compatible?
They are the size of a USB stick usually with integrated wifi, USB port and HDMI port as well as a micro SD expansion slot. Looks cool.
http://youtu.be/akp2hYE1dZ0
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/pro...-Processor-Media-Center/803232_550274999.html
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/mini-a...r-w-wi-fi-hdmi-usb-micro-usb-black-4gb-141171
It looks nice but a x86 one would be better. I suggest you wait a little. Also I think this should be in android general
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sounds cool
coooool
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Yh I know what you're taking about , the USB drives are trending nowadays but I hardly can figure out a reason for them with 1.0 Ghz and 512 ddr2 ram which I believe is the maximum specifacion those USB form factor can go. They’re limited to arm instruction set , which means arm software and not x86
so nothing will work instead of android , however I have heard of Ubuntu ARM port.But I believe installing Ubuntu or any other Linux on that USB will be hard to implement
and I think after you install ubuntu you can customize it to make it more like XBMC
They come in much better flavours than those posted above. I like this one:
http://www.hardkernel.com/renewal_2011/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G133999328931
It is basically the Galaxy S3 board with extra peripherals, more than enough for a decent low-powered htpc imo. Runs ubuntu pretty well considering there are no open source Mali drivers.......yet
awesome
brutoid said:
They come in much better flavours than those posted above. I like this one:
It is basically the Galaxy S3 board with extra peripherals, more than enough for a decent low-powered htpc imo. Runs ubuntu pretty well considering there are no open source Mali drivers.......yet
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That's awesome, might have to pick one up. Especially with XBMC and VLC for android this would make an incredible media solution.
brutoid said:
They come in much better flavours than those posted above. I like this one:
http://www.hardkernel.com/renewal_2011/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G133999328931
It is basically the Galaxy S3 board with extra peripherals, more than enough for a decent low-powered htpc imo. Runs ubuntu pretty well considering there are no open source Mali drivers.......yet
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Still not a bad choice but I want a S4 with Adreno 320
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Any1 bought it ?
Its chinese....
it can blow right on my face
Im just gonna wait a little and see what else comes along, see room for improvement
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I think it looks awesome even compared with the $25 Raspberry Pi's out there. I'd like to get one, but then again I can use my GS2 for just about everything I need and it'll have more power. It'd be good to have one of these little guys in case I went to someone's house for a weekend or on vacation and needed a basic PC to browse internet, etc.
Good find none-the-less.
I've been following these a lot and so far have been pretty disappointed.
There are a few different ones, the best specs-wise being the cStick.
Always Innovating HDMI dongle (only selling to vendors I believe)
http://www.cnx-software.com/2012/01...eils-open-source-android-4-0-hdmi-dongle-stb/
Mini X Plus and/or Mk802 (my problem with this company is I was reading on their forums reports of both overheating and 512MB models being sold as 1GB).
https://www.miniand.com/products/Mini Xplus TV Box H24
Apparently the Roku streaming stick requires MHL-enabled televisions.
And the best I've seen the cStick has been delayed time and time again and so far haven't updated their status in months.
http://www.fxitech.com/products/
If anyone knows about any more let me know!
JasonD416 said:
I've been following these a lot and so far have been pretty disappointed.
There are a few different ones, the best specs-wise being the cStick.
Always Innovating HDMI dongle (only selling to vendors I believe)
Mini X Plus and/or Mk802 (my problem with this company is I was reading on their forums reports of both overheating and 512MB models being sold as 1GB).
Apparently the Roku streaming stick requires MHL-enabled televisions.
And the best I've seen the cStick has been delayed time and time again and so far haven't updated their status in months.
If anyone knows about any more let me know!
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I have been looking at cstick as well, but the lack of information makes me consider it a dead project.
I have ordered a Tizzbird N1, which is more focused on being a media player but will have Google Market (with custom firmware) and the possibility to run apps.
Code:
w w w.cnx-software.com/2012/03/08/valueplus-tizzbird-stick-n1-android-ics-hdmiusb-dongle-media-player/
They are claiming that they will start deliver in Sweden the 27th of August (postponed from 8th of August)
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That reminds me of the Raspberry Pi, might have to pick one of these up!
I have had a mk802 for a month or more. Its OK not great. Recently it doesn't want to grab wifi which makes it almost useless. Its laggy and for sale.
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i'm also using the mk802.. had it for about 2 weeks now. didn't do much with it other then install XBMC for android on it. and a few pluging to stream my movies and shows. it gets laggy at times
i'm also using the mk802. und Raspberry Pi
both with xbmc
The Raspberry is for Pro Users the MK802 run without knowledge.
WOW
I think that is really really cool. i could make my desktop and laptop pc an android and get rid of everything windows... hmmmm
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another thing, I have a XBMC on my original xbox, so your saying i could hook it up to that and browse internet thru the TV? i am sure i could do it with the 360 i have as well..
Quite slick. I found this one on Amazon; definitely added to my wishlist to go with a shiny new HDTV for my living room.
I'm also considering to buy one, but don't you think it can very easily overheat?
I found the MK802+ for $39.99 with free shipping!
http://www.geekbuying.com/item/In-S...GB-RAM-4GB-ROM--Better-Than-MK802-307558.html
Android 4.0
Allwinner A10 w/ Mali400
4GB Storage
1GB of ram
802.11 b/g/n
It comes with:
HDMI cable
USB cable
AC adapter
English Manual
It also includes some bonus items:
4-port usb hub
usb 3d sound adapter
This is a very good price for the MK802. Even better when you consider the extras.
I'm buying one to have around as an extra dual booting android/linux box.
(I already own 1 mk802, several UG802, and 1 MK808.)
I've been interested in these for a while, and I have been waiting for this price point. How do they work? Do they do everything your phone/tablet can do. I would be interested if it could play a game like Batman The Dark Knight Rises Game (or something as intensive). Also how does something like Onlive work? Any browser crashes?
Snagged two and an air remote
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(I already own 1 mk802, several UG802, and 1 MK808.)
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Any posibility to upgrade the mk802+ to jelly bean? Speed diference is noticeable compared to the mk808?
Thats a really good price considering they give you some nice accessories to go with it. You could attach it to a monitor and keyboard/mouse and have a really cheap thin client desktop running Android.
Any one else notice the Engrish on that page, "Get this MK802+ NOW,Throw your Dumb TV!!"
Not sure how well this would work if I throw my TV. :laugh:
Decided to go ahead and get 2 of these. Basically give someone a cheap computer for mostly browsing and email. Very portable.
There are some bad reviews online with that seller, they say do not purchase from them and they are affiliated with some other stores bad stores as well.
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Personally I've not had any problems with geekbuying.com, but as always if you're not comfortable then don't order from them.
You're more likely to get what's described from them than you are from a random aliexpress seller.
IMHO many bad reviews for chinese sellers are for cheap tablets. People expect way too much out of those tablets.
I bought a wireless mouse/keyboard which is recommended with it and it worked at first but the mk802 won't see it now. I've also tried 3 or 4 wireless mice with most not working. Is that normal?
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just got my 2 today. a first there was a wifi lag problem but after fixing that everything working great. youtube and netflix working perfect. would be nice to have bluetooth on this but other then that it would just fine. also they sent me my order twice so instead of just getting 2 I got 4 of these for $75. Was $80 but use the $5 code. so 4 of these for $75 can't beat. 1 for my mom; 2 for the kids and 1 for me. Saved me form having to buy tablets.
zaiaku: why don't you tell them that?
just loaded jellybean on this thing and it's great. out the box everything works great but don't expect much of a wifi strenght from this thing. Most phones have a much better range. After putting jellybean on it definitely worth it. Smoother, more responsive; more options. no change in netflix but much more control in youtube.
Is it easy to put jb on this? Is it rooted your device?
Can anyone tell me if IP can works full screen on this ?
Cause I really need to run surveillance cams on TV with this.
PS: 32 " TV.
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Is it easy to put jb on this? Is it rooted your device?
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Very easy. From everything I ever had to root and flash this was very very simple. I did the first one and my 10yo daughter did 2 of the other ones. Takes around 5min from start to boot.
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Very easy. From everything I ever had to root and flash this was very very simple. I did the first one and my 10yo daughter did 2 of the other ones. Takes around 5min from start to boot.
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Sounds great!! I really want one of these sticks, dont know if I buy the mk808 or just wait for the latest one with quad core cpu and bluetooth
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Can you use a usb mouse or keyboard with this? Seems like the perfect thing to add to one of my HDTVs. Plus thats really cheap.
754boy said:
Can you use a usb mouse or keyboard with this? Seems like the perfect thing to add to one of my HDTVs. Plus thats really cheap.
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Yes you can use a usb mouse and key board or use a bluetooth dongle and use bluetooth which is what I'm doing now. So far the only problem I've seen with this thing is the range from the router. My phones and tablets and computer have a much larger range then this.
Zaiaku said:
Yes you can use a usb mouse and key board or use a bluetooth dongle and use bluetooth which is what I'm doing now. So far the only problem I've seen with this thing is the range from the router. My phones and tablets and computer have a much larger range then this.
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Makes sense, its hard to fit a decent sized antenna in there, and at $40 I doubt the money is spent engineering a great antenna setup like inside phones. There are USB to ethernet adapters out there that work with Android, I wonder if external USB wireless adapters would work.
Sounds great!
That looks like an awesome deal! Definitely planning to give it a try. Thanks OP
Hi again,
Seems the thread I started on this disappeared. In short I want to use the note in class and make presentations. I finally got the hdmi adapter and then the hdmi to vga. However the resolution is very low to the projector (e.g., 640x480). I can not find how to change or an app to do so. I am out of luck?
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dave
dtl said:
Hi again,
Seems the thread I started on this disappeared. In short I want to use the note in class and make presentations. I finally got the hdmi adapter and then the hdmi to vga. However the resolution is very low to the projector (e.g., 640x480). I can not find how to change or an app to do so. I am out of luck?
thanks
dave
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Poor quality HDMI to VGA? I don't recommend going tablet-> HDMI-> VGA, do you have the option for dvi? That's be better
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Poor quality HDMI to VGA? I don't recommend going tablet-> HDMI-> VGA, do you have the option for dvi? That's be better
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There in lies the problem. Nope the only to link to the universities projection system is vga. At this time universal among universities.
dtl said:
There in lies the problem. Nope the only to link to the universities projection system is vga. At this time universal among universities.
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Well only thing I cab day then it's more than likely a poor quality adapter. Now is it an actual converter box or just a cable?
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I just recently purchased a wips1000 from teqavit. You can Google search it. It connects to VGA or HDMI, then connects wirelessly to your note. I use it while teaching classses on less lethal munitions. I can walk around the room and wirelessly broadcast my screen to the projector. Thus the students are able to see my tablets screen exactly as I move thru the presentation.
And if you broadcast from a laptop(still learning how to do this part from the tablet) if the student have their own ipad/ android tablets... it will broadcast right to their tablets in front of them.
I think it is really going to bring the quality of my classes up to a whole new level. Not sure if this is what you were talking about but I thought I would throw it out there.
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I just recently purchased a wips1000 from teqavit. You can Google search it. It connects to VGA or HDMI, then connects wirelessly to your note. I use it while teaching classses on less lethal munitions. I can walk around the room and wirelessly broadcast my screen to the projector. Thus the students are able to see my tablets screen exactly as I move thru the presentation.
And if you broadcast from a laptop(still learning how to do this part from the tablet) if the student have their own ipad/ android tablets... it will broadcast right to their tablets in front of them.
I think it is really going to bring the quality of my classes up to a whole new level. Not sure if this is what you were talking about but I thought I would throw it out there.
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Thanks for this info. If I've understood well Teqavit Wips 1000 could work as an alternative to Sansung's Allshare Cast Dongle.
I've Googled it and found out the producer page, but I didn't find info about:
What's its price range compared to Samsung Dongle?
What app should be run in the Note to broadcast its screen to the receiver?
EDIT: Possible answers to Q2 WiFi-Doc? MobiShow?
lawdawg45238 said:
I just recently purchased a wips1000 from teqavit. You can Google search it. It connects to VGA or HDMI, then connects wirelessly to your note. I use it while teaching classses on less lethal munitions. I can walk around the room and wirelessly broadcast my screen to the projector. Thus the students are able to see my tablets screen exactly as I move thru the presentation.
And if you broadcast from a laptop(still learning how to do this part from the tablet) if the student have their own ipad/ android tablets... it will broadcast right to their tablets in front of them.
I think it is really going to bring the quality of my classes up to a whole new level. Not sure if this is what you were talking about but I thought I would throw it out there.
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interesting. I have the samsung system coming in today and will try that. But I will look into this one. How is the quality? Are you doing any powerpoints? .
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Well only thing I cab day then it's more than likely a poor quality adapter. Now is it an actual converter box or just a cable?
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It is the samsung hdmi adapter. and the samsung hdmi to vga adapter. I am thinking that it is detecting the adapter and lowering the quality of the resolution. That is the only think I can of happening. I have the allshare dongle coming in today and maybe this will work but it will still have to go through the adapter so I am not confident.
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It is the samsung hdmi adapter. and the samsung hdmi to vga adapter. I am thinking that it is detecting the adapter and lowering the quality of the resolution. That is the only think I can of happening. I have the allshare dongle coming in today and maybe this will work but it will still have to go through the adapter so I am not confident.
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Yea I'm thinking it's an adapter issue, I'm looking the idea of using the broadcaster, seems like it would be a real boon to any presentation c:
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I have just started to use the GNote to give lectures. I use the Allshare Cast Dongle to make the wireless connection to the GNote. As all my lecture theatres are still using old tech data projectors I had to source a digital to analog converter. This takes the HDMI signal from the Allshare cast dongle and converts it to analog. The converter has a female Dsub connector which the vga type cable form the data projector can be plugged into. I was worried it might not work that well but it has exceeded my expectations. The quality is great and the being wirless has much potential. You can get get the converters on Ebay. I suspect this is quite critical so I got a decent one from Startech.com.
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It is the samsung hdmi adapter. and the samsung hdmi to vga adapter. I am thinking that it is detecting the adapter and lowering the quality of the resolution. That is the only think I can of happening. I have the allshare dongle coming in today and maybe this will work but it will still have to go through the adapter so I am not confident.
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opps it is not a Samsung hdmi to vga adapter
sphere314 said:
Thanks for this info. If I've understood well Teqavit Wips 1000 could work as an alternative to Sansung's Allshare Cast Dongle.
I've Googled it and found out the producer page, but I didn't find info about:
What's its price range compared to Samsung Dongle?
What app should be run in the Note to broadcast its screen to the receiver?
EDIT: Possible answers to Q2 WiFi-Doc? MobiShow?
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I checked. Price range 300ish to 500ish . I called the company and they said there are two types one that broadcasts 7209 and the other 1020 p which is the 1000. He said because of the higher resolution the refresh rate is low on the 1000 and best on the 340 or the new 510. Price is too steep for me for out of pocket especially if image is low quality for ppts. It may be an adapter issue for me I am exploring what might be best. Seems prices are all over 18 to 50$$. I would hate to have the ipad one up us on this!
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I checked. Price range 300ish to 500ish...
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Before I got the Allshare Cast Dongle I evaluated MobiShow and Wifidoc. They work OK over wifi but they are far more limited compared to the Allshare Cast Dongle. The Allshare Cast Dongle mirrors the GNote screen which is its massive advantage IMO. Just wish it had a snappier name...
I just used it again today to demonstrate to the Chief for a court room project we are working on. I streamed a movie to the HD TV using a HDMI cable from the wips1000 to the TV. The picture was great and there was never a hang up. I also went through three power point presentations and had absolutely no problems with resolution or lag or anything. And if you use Polaris office to do the ppt presentation or office suite hey both have the ability to use the S pen to underline or highlight things on the presentation slides during the presentation.
Cost is steep 440 for the wips1000. But it is very small and portable and if you will be traveling it's worth it.
The app for mirroring the tablets screen to the TV or projector is mirrorop ...
And the wips1000 will also interface with SmartBoard if you are presented with one of those when your teaching.
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Another plus and part of the cost and why I chose the wips1000 over other options is that it broadcasts its own access point. With the other dongles you have to connect to an existing wifi network. The wips1000 and the 350 and 450 all create their own wifi network access point.
Many times when I go train another agency their wifi is locked down and the IT guys has to enter my laptops Mac address in to their network to give it connection permissions. A real pain in the butt ... but the wips series devices create their own wifi network, no internet mind you, but that's how you connect wirelessly. So you aren't dependant on access to an existing wifi network.
Somebody above mwntioned uaing existing wifi with a dongle witj mediocre results. I suspect thay even if you did have access to an existing wifi network and were using a dongle, your performance could be hampered by other traffic flow on that network.
Just food for thought.
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I have just started to use the GNote to give lectures. I use the Allshare Cast Dongle to make the wireless connection to the GNote. As all my lecture theatres are still using old tech data projectors I had to source a digital to analog converter. This takes the HDMI signal from the Allshare cast dongle and converts it to analog. The converter has a female Dsub connector which the vga type cable form the data projector can be plugged into. I was worried it might not work that well but it has exceeded my expectations. The quality is great and the being wirless has much potential. You can get get the converters on Ebay. I suspect this is quite critical so I got a decent one from Startech.com.
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Great do you have a name for this. This is cool because the one I have does not work well
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Great do you have a name for this. This is cool because the one I have does not work well
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The one I purchased is the HD2VGAE from Startech.com.
http://eu.startech.com/AV/Converter...Desktop-PC-Laptop-Ultrabook-1920x1080~HD2VGAE
I am seriously looking forward to the shield but I couldn't care less about the android gaming portion of the device. The only reason I would be buying this is for the streaming option, I already have a i7 920 machine with a gtx 770 gpu (talk about too much gpu for an older CPU) and have my whole house wires with cat5e and wireless n routers/access points. The shield would be my dream come true, I would just take it to any tv in the house and connect it with the hdmi out and basically play my pc games anywhere I want, or if needs be, on the shield screen itself.
Those who are married with kids know exactly why this sort of mobility is why the shield is 100% worth it. My problem? That the shield is a complete flop (it probably will) and nvidia does a dreamcast on us and drops support for it in a few years and no more streaming games.
Any chance o a type of root hack or something that will allow us to stream games nvidia doesn't allow?
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I am seriously looking forward to the shield but I couldn't care less about the android gaming portion of the device. The only reason I would be buying this is for the streaming option, I already have a i7 920 machine with a gtx 770 gpu (talk about too much gpu for an older CPU) and have my whole house wires with cat5e and wireless n routers/access points. The shield would be my dream come true, I would just take it to any tv in the house and connect it with the hdmi out and basically play my pc games anywhere I want, or if needs be, on the shield screen itself.
Those who are married with kids know exactly why this sort of mobility is why the shield is 100% worth it. My problem? That the shield is a complete flop (it probably will) and nvidia does a dreamcast on us and drops support for it in a few years and no more streaming games.
Any chance o a type of root hack or something that will allow us to stream games nvidia doesn't allow?
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Don't even need a root hack. There are already ways around the "supported game list".
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Don't even need a root hack. There are already ways around the "supported game list".
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Oh man, seriously? With functioning gamepad and everything? Talk about good news! Thanks!
kuhne said:
Oh man, seriously? With functioning gamepad and everything? Talk about good news! Thanks!
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Assuming the *game* supports an external gamepad. I tried to get "Rock of Ages" to work, but it doesn't. Of course, I've had multiple times where that game won't work with *the keyboard connected to the system*. It's pretty flaky. But most games support an external controller, and just work.
It's not fake mouse and keyboard events, it's a real controller.
You have your hands on a shield already?
I'm a technical lead for android on it.
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I'm a technical lead for android on it.
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Oh, nice, so you workked on the project officialy with Nvidia or how did that work?
Won't you get into trouble for letting me know we already can get around the allowed games?
I won't take anymore of your time, I just wanted to ask how the overall streaming experience was? With my setup being a i7 920 with a gtx 770 and 12gb of ram and my router being a belkin N router (no A, just N). My idea is to connect the shield with a long hdmi cable to my 60inch lcd and play my computer games there (my computer is in another room altogether)
In a situation like this, will my intentions work? I am very excited for this device for this reason alone!
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Oh, nice, so you workked on the project officialy with Nvidia or how did that work?
Won't you get into trouble for letting me know we already can get around the allowed games?
I won't take anymore of your time, I just wanted to ask how the overall streaming experience was? With my setup being a i7 920 with a gtx 770 and 12gb of ram and my router being a belkin N router (no A, just N). My idea is to connect the shield with a long hdmi cable to my 60inch lcd and play my computer games there (my computer is in another room altogether)
In a situation like this, will my intentions work? I am very excited for this device for this reason alone!
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The weak link in your setup will be the wifi router. I haven't had great luck on the 2.4GHz spectrum, but I also have a noisy 2.4GHz range (many APs nearby, baby monitors, etc)
Outside of that, you, that will work. I wish they had used MHL for the HDMI out, so that you didn't need two cables to be charging and playing, but I don't know if MHL can do 2 amp charging or not. I'm hopeful that Monoprice will start selling their very sexy thin HDMI cables for mini HDMI (I haven't looked lately, so they may already have them), and then it wouldn't be terrible to connect via HDMI video. I think you can use a bluetooth controller with SHIELD, so you could set it on a table as a "dongle" for streaming PC games.
I still work on SHIELD. And I love working on it. One of my responsibilities is to make sure we stay as close to pure AOSP as possible, while supporting product features which AOSP doesn't (try using a controller to navigate the launcher...). That said, NVIDIA doesn't sponsor (or probably condone) my speaking on dev forums, but I'm also careful about what I say. Working around non-supported games was planned ahead of time. Supported games means games we've tested and made sure work smoothly. But you can add any games you'd like to Steam (heck, you can add Microsoft Word to Steam) and they'll show up via "Steam Big Picture" on SHIELD.
You'll notice I don't reply to launch date or "what caused the delay" threads. I do *like* keeping my job. That would be "leaking" information.
Got it I won't ask those questions then.
Just worried about the router thing you mentioned. My fiber op goes directly into a dual band n router but that is in the same room as the computer so using the shield there makes no sense. I have a cat 5e cable going from that router over 150 feet to my home theater room and over there it connects to an older Belkin N router which i have set up as an access point.
That's the room i plan on doing most of my shield gaming streaming from the pc in the other room.
Why would you say this wouldn't work? Cat5e not enough? N router not enough?
What sort of speeds does the shield require?
Also, what you mentioned about setting the shield on a table and connect another controller to it via Bluetooth is just incredible. This means i could connect a wireless keyboard and mouse to it. I'm abit of an old school gamer myself and not that much into game pads when taking about fast reaction in games. Love game pads for rpgs and things like that.
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But you can add any games you'd like to Steam (heck, you can add Microsoft Word to Steam) and they'll show up via "Steam Big Picture" on SHIELD.
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HECK YES! lol i've been wanting to hear words like this for a LONG time.
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HECK YES! lol i've been wanting to hear words like this for a LONG time.
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I can't promise apps like Microsoft Word will stream because they aren't full screen... But yes, you aren't restricted to just the handful of games NVIDIA officially supports.
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I can't promise apps like Microsoft Word will stream because they aren't full screen... But yes, you aren't restricted to just the handful of games NVIDIA officially supports.
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awesome... maybe play some shadowrun for 2006's sake
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Also, what you mentioned about setting the shield on a table and connect another controller to it via Bluetooth is just incredible. This means i could connect a wireless keyboard and mouse to it. I'm abit of an old school gamer myself and not that much into game pads when taking about fast reaction in games. Love game pads for rpgs and things like that.
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You could probably attach any keyboard and mouse to it through the usb on the back if you get a USB-OTG to full size USB adapter/hub. I'm not 100% sure the shield supports it yet but I would be surprised if it didn't.
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You could probably attach any keyboard and mouse to it through the usb on the back if you get a USB-OTG to full size USB adapter/hub. I'm not 100% sure the shield supports it yet but I would be surprised if it didn't.
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You are right. And with the steam big picture thing commented before. The shield at 299 seems to be going from bargain to 'wtf are you kidding" device of the year.
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I know it supports OTG, as well as keyboard and mouse. Haven't tried those while streaming a game though...
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I know it supports OTG, as well as keyboard and mouse. Haven't tried those while streaming a game though...
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I'm just curious if it be possible to save games to the sdcard instead? Or would we have to root and use application like foldermount etc
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I'm just curious if it be possible to save games to the sdcard instead? Or would we have to root and use application like foldermount etc
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I have no idea. I haven't really looked at what sdcard support it has. Just that it has an sdcard jack.
Any plans for any multiplayer games on steam to be supported on the shield. Ex: team fortress, Cod bo2, battlefield...
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Also works if you have a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse, and that would save you from having to use the USB-OTG to hub.
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Any plans for any multiplayer games on steam to be supported on the shield. Ex: team fortress, Cod bo2, battlefield...
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given the information agrabren has given us buddy any game with controller support should work.