Hello. I have written an app that helps to improve the accuracy of the S-Pen. It works only on Note phones because Samsung has compiled some S-Pen device driver interfaces out of the tablet ROMs. It is not clear why they did this. I have asked Samsung but gotten no replies. I have confirmed that parts of the kernel code is commented out in the open source kernel code (and you can see that some of the interface files found on phones do not exist on the tablets). It seems that the tablets suffer from the same issues related to the S-Pen as do the phones and I have many people asking me to make my app work on their tablets. I cannot do so with the stock ROMs because of the missing interface files.
So I am wondering if there any non-stock ROMs in which the S-Pen is more fully supported. The missing files are located on my phone in /sys/class/sec/sec_epen/ and the two files I need are called epen_hand and epen_rotation. If anyone knows of any ROMs for the S-Pen equipped tablets that provide these interface files, I would appreciate knowing and may be able to direct some folks to using them.
Thanks
I see the two files in Slimbean ROM installed on my Note I, and the list of supported devices include few tablets - see here:
http://www.slimroms.net/index.php/supported-devices, so I suppose those files could be there as well.
Edit: no S-pen tablet on the list...
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those one from my 5100 ?
geek78 said:
those one from my 5100 ?
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That is interesting. Isn't the 5100 also known as the Galaxy Tab 2? I did not think it came with an SPen. Please let me know if I am incorrect here. If it does not, I am surprised to see these files on your device. Are you using a stock ROM? Thanks
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That is interesting. Isn't the 5100 also known as the Galaxy Tab 2? I did not think it came with an SPen. Please let me know if I am incorrect here. If it does not, I am surprised to see these files on your device. Are you using a stock ROM? Thanks
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The Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 is P5100
The Note 8.0 is N5100 (comes with S-pen)
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It sure looks like you 5100 has the necessary files. Can you answer a couple other questions:
(a) Are you using a standard ROM? If so, what version? If not, what ROM and version?
(b) Does your 5100 have a dominant hand setting for the SPen?
(c) If your 5100 is rooted, would you be willing to try my Reset SPen (free) app and tell me if it runs on your tablet? After install, simply click the app's icon and you should see a success or failure message.
Thanks
Stock Rom: JZ054K.N5100XXBMD1 over here = Both files also present.
TarKin said:
Stock Rom: JZ054K.N5100XXBMD1 over here = Both files also present.
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Thanks. I am downloading a dump from a 5100 right now and will look to see what I can find. But if those 2 files are present, there is good hope here. Do you see a dominant hand setting for the SPen? Cheers!
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Thanks. I am downloading a dump from a 5100 right now and will look to see what I can find. But if those 2 files are present, there is good hope here. Do you see a dominant hand setting for the SPen? Cheers!
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No, i don´t see such a setting.
Looking for a Couple Testers
As it appears that the Note 8 does have the necessary device driver interface files, I am looking for one or two rooted users to test my app who have the following issue with their S-Pens:
There seems to be a lack of accuracy in the point where the SPen's point actually is located and where its touch seems to be registered. This is most easily seen as a discrepancy between where the floating/hoovering pen icon (enabled on phones at least via an SPen setting) and where the actual tip of the SPen is located.
Reset Spen Pro attempts to resolve this problem. As a by-product, it may also be able to give you the following:
* A dominant hand setting (left/right) such as is found on Note phones but which seems to be missing on Note 8 tablets.
* Better support for the SPen's response to orientation changes which can improve SPen accuracy as orientation changes.
If you are interested, please PM me and we can discuss how best to do this. Thanks
Hi, I have a rooted Note 8 runing this rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2287367
I installed your app and it asked me what my dominant hand was. So it seems to be working. Is there anything you want me to try? how do i know if its working properly?
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Hi, I have a rooted Note 8 runing this rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2287367
I installed your app and it asked me what my dominant hand was. So it seems to be working. Is there anything you want me to try? how do i know if its working properly?
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Hello and thanks for your effort and your reply. What this means is that my app finds the device driver input files it needs on your device/ROM but that it does NOT find any dominant hand setting (as exists on Note phones with standard ROMs). The app tries to support ROMs which lack this setting by creating and using a setting of its own.
Basically, the app exists to try and remedy a commonly described situation whereby the accuracy of the touches of the SPen's tip degrades over time. This is particularly evident when the floating/hoovering SPen pointer is enabled. This shows where the SPen device "thinks" the SPen tip is located. Over time, many phone users notice that the location of the pointer and the location of the actual SPen tip diverge. When this happens, touches of the SPen tip often do not get registered where the user thinks they should (under the SPen's physical tip). If you do not see this situation, the app may "work" but you will see no "benefit". Some phone users have reported this. But many have shown the app to create a large improvement in the accuracy of their SPens. This remedy is performed via the epen_hand file. It seems that the Note 8 stock ROM has this file but lacks the dominant hand setting. This makes little sense to me. And so far, Samsung has not responded to my queries about the situation.
Also, some non-stock phone ROMs fail to report changes of device orientation to the SPen which uses this information to recalibrate the SPen for the new orientation. This is done via the epen_rotation file. I have not encountered this issue in stock phone ROMs but I have no idea about the Note 8. So my app makes sure that orientation changes are reported to the SPen. Again, this affects the "accuracy" of the SPen's tip - on phones particularly in non-portrait orientations. It is important to note that this function only works if the app is scheduled to run in the background.
I hope this clarifies what the app is doing.
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Hi,
I recently purchased a Galaxy Tab 10.1 P7510 and have literally tried out all the ROMs out there to try and find the best to help increase the tracking speed of the device. I have searched a lot for the answer but cannot seem to find a definitive one. All of them seem to have considerable lags with stylus input for taking notes.
I do not really care about palm detection, so finding a ROM which speeds up the tracking would be great help. I am not sure if tracking is related to the app that I use as well but I have also tried most of the notepad apps and have found that Antipaper Notes (Zoom function) is the best along with FreeNote (Tracks better, but cannot work on it like an actual notepad)
I just need a bit of help finding the best ROM to take notes on as that is my main use case for the Galaxy Tab.
Thanks!
Someone please help me
Task and phantom's new ROM has a pretty good touch response. heres the thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1284355
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Task and phantom's new ROM has a pretty good touch response. heres the thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1284355
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Thanks for your reply.
I have been on "In Paris V2" for quite some time now. It has a much better response time than the stock ROM but is still very difficult to use. I was wondering if anyone had better experience with any other ROM, or if it is the notes app which is the main cause for the slow tracking?
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Thanks for your reply.
I have been on "In Paris V2" for quite some time now. It has a much better response time than the stock ROM but is still very difficult to use. I was wondering if anyone had better experience with any other ROM, or if it is the notes app which is the main cause for the slow tracking?
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I have used every ROM on this forum for 7510 and I have to say, I like task's work the best (with the exception of his V7, but V7.1 fixes the issues i had with v7)
What problems are you having with In Paris V2?
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I have used every ROM on this forum for 7510 and I have to say, I like task's work the best (with the exception of his V7, but V7.1 fixes the issues i had with v7)
What problems are you having with In Paris V2?
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The only issue that I have is tracking with a stylus. Everything else is peachy! I want to be able to write notes on it with a stylus. And when trying to do so it seems that everytime I write an I or L in any case it completely fails to recognise it! :S and if i'm trying to write something quickly ten that's a whole new ball game!
esc247 said:
The only issue that I have is tracking with a stylus. Everything else is peachy! I want to be able to write notes on it with a stylus. And when trying to do so it seems that everytime I write an I or L in any case it completely fails to recognise it! :S and if i'm trying to write something quickly ten that's a whole new ball game!
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Well, truth be told, you're going to have that problem no matter what ROM you use. Are you doing handwriting to text? Or saving the handwriting as is?
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Well, truth be told, you're going to have that problem no matter what ROM you use. Are you doing handwriting to text? Or saving the handwriting as is?
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saving the handwriting as is. Oh well i guess i'll have to wait for ICS and see if that improves things or even for 3.2.
Cheers anyways!
esc247 said:
saving the handwriting as is. Oh well i guess i'll have to wait for ICS and see if that improves things or even for 3.2.
Cheers anyways!
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If you're saving handwriting as is, how is it "not recognizing" letters? It's not reading your pen strokes?
yeah it isnt recognising the strokes.
Just a thought, I have no idea if it would make a difference - google "stylus-r-us" and take a look at the website. They're expensive, but there IS a money-back guarantee. Might be worth a phone call to talk to them. Good luck.
I read somewhere in these forums that the Galaxy Tab 10.1 only has something like 600 <pressure> points whereas the ipad2 and Asus Eee Pad have 1200. No matter what stylus you use, handwriting is never going to be the strong point on this tablet unless Samsung addresses this issue. I've tried every Rom, writing app and stylus - some work better than others - but handwriting is still pretty much uselss because there simply isn't enough points available. It's a disappointment with the Galaxy Tab for sure, but I've been using the Logitech bluetooth keyboard (and case) and that's been working out well. But still miss the legible handwriting......
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Thanks for your reply guys! this is a real disappointment! and to make things worse, I bought the damn thing from the US or I woud've returned it for an iPad! Shizz guess im stuck with it now till the iPad 3 (or something better) comes out.
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I read somewhere in these forums that the Galaxy Tab 10.1 only has something like 600 <pressure> points whereas the ipad2 and Asus Eee Pad have 1200. No matter what stylus you use, handwriting is never going to be the strong point on this tablet unless Samsung addresses this issue. I've tried every Rom, writing app and stylus - some work better than others - but handwriting is still pretty much uselss because there simply isn't enough points available. It's a disappointment with the Galaxy Tab for sure, but I've been using the Logitech bluetooth keyboard (and case) and that's been working out well. But still miss the legible handwriting......
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Thanks, I reached the same conclusions. planning on buying a zagg bluetooth keyboard.
As you know, those of us with Galaxy Notes complain about the "lagginess" of the device and the inaccuracy of the S pen. There is an app called TouchScreenTune on the Play Store for Galaxy Note that lets you adjust the S Pen accuracy and the Screens responsiveness.
The free version lets you see that the app actually does work and the licenced version lets you save the settings. The licence is 5 bucks. And, of course, your phone has to be rooted. But I would highly recommend TouchScreenTune.
nice finding! looks good... i hope the author of this app makes money, but on the other hand I hope we get the fix for free on ICS...
Thanks for the info. The offcenter calibration of the s-pen have made me not use it at all!
i cant find it in the market
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i cant find it in the market
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/...1bGwsMSwxLDEwMiwiY29tLnZpdGFsLnRzdC5uNzAwMCJd
Overpriced and completely unnecessary
And the full version is an out-of-market purchase?
No dice.
That said, I'd hardly classify $5 as "overpriced" if it works as advertised.
Wasnt this a free app originally made for the Galaxy S II? What happened there?
I remember just grabbing the apk over at the S II forums before
KaliKot said:
Wasnt this a free app originally made for the Galaxy S II? What happened there?
I remember just grabbing the apk over at the S II forums before
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yeah it was intended for the GS2. Perhaps this is a placebo effect people are getting on their note? lol
installed trial, tested, changed offsets, tested
WOW, NO DIFFERENCE.
uninstalled.
I actually did purchase the licence myself and I do notice a difference. Is it perfect? Not really. But it does make an improvement...at least to my eyes anyway. I have a pinball game app and since I increased the touch screen sensitivity, the flippers respond more quickly. Not as quickly as I would like, but an improvement none the less. As for the s pen settings, it works as advertised. But I wonder why Sammy didn't include something like this in the settings menu in the first place. Maybe with the ICS update? I hope so.
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installed trial, tested, changed offsets, tested
WOW, NO DIFFERENCE.
uninstalled.
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In the trial version the settings are lost when the phone locks.
Spen calibration is really only an issue for left handed ppl who curl their hand when writing... other ppl probably wont experience it. Its very noticeable when i write. Lecture notes app has a calibration setting for writing I just use that.
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I have to agree! The reason for the slight offset of the S-Pen is due to the natural way you hold a pen when writing on the screen. Therefore Samsung set it like this purposely. After a short time you get used to how this works and it becomes natural.
I did find another app though when looking at this.. called Jotter (for Galaxy Note only) it has a 100% palm rejection when writing on the screen, so it feels more natural to rest your hand as you write. I tried it for the 15 minutes and it worked well, but I don't write notes enough to justify spending £3 for it.
in order for this to work properly there needs to be some code that is put into the kernel. We on the i717 have a debug kernel that DA_g created that has KALLSYMS + KALLSYMS_ALL in it. Im not sure if this alone is all that is needed but it does make my SPEN more precise as apposed to not having this at all. But in order for this to work I had to use da_g debug kernel.. any other kernel it didnt change anything....
I was intrigued by the new Note II feature where it was demonstrated that you would be able to capture a video of you making markings using the S-Note while also having audio being captured.
My suspicion is that this feature (if ported to the note 10.1) will be limited to S-Note.
I have found other note making apps, namely Quill, to be lightyears ahead of S-Note in the design of their interface and in their taking advantage of the pressure sensitivity of the digitizer in this tablet. It would be completely ideal, for me, to be able to take video recordings of my note-taking using other such apps whilst having audio embedded. For example, it would be absolutely useful to have the ability to play back the process of taking notes in a lecture using Quill whilst having my teacher's voice embedded over the video.
What I would like to know is namely if anyone has tried out any apps such as "screencast" which allow such functionality? I have not rooted my device yet, so it is not possible for me to see if this app works well on this tablet. Otherwise, does anyone know of any apps besides screencast which serve the same purpose? And of course, speculation as to whether the new note II features (if ported) will allow screen/audio recording throughout the user interface is welcome in this thread.
Cheers,
And a note to the mods: While this post is posed in the form of a question, I feel it is more suited for general rather than Q&A because of the rather unspecific nature of the question and discussion it may promote with regard to a certainly sought after feature by many users.
Check out link below to answer part of your question:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1887594
Bare in mind, it's a very early release.
You have that in S-note. Just open a new document with squares and you get a red dot in the menu. Record and enjoy!
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SoMann said:
You have that in S-note. Just open a new document with squares and you get a red dot in the menu. Record and enjoy!
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To reemphasize, I am not so fond of S-Note as I am of other note taking apps, namely Quill, which is much more suited to the fast paced note-taking required for the course I am taking.
HasC said:
Check out link below to answer part of your question:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1887594
Bare in mind, it's a very early release.
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Thanks for this.
Just got around to watching this video, and it has me excited. Seeing as he initiated screen recording from his home page, I'm under the assumption that this will work throughout the interface. I do hope this makes it to the final release. For anyone time-pressed, he demos this feature at 2:40 in the video.
Alright, well a few months has passed and I have now flashed a JellyBean 4.1.2 rom. and as is probably evident to most... the screen recording feature didn't make it into the final version of JellyBean despite showing up in some of the leaked versions.
At any rate, since I have rooted the tablet, I went ahead and installed Screencast Video Recorder. It has worked phenomenally in most cases; however, just lately here some of the videos I have made will not play and seem corrupted in various ways (I suspect this may be because of having EZ Task Manager installed recently on my device, but I won't have made a video with it uninstalled yet until tonight.. so we'll see if that fixes things).
I was wondering: of those of you who use this app on the SGN 10.1 and have gotten it to work well, what settings do you use both within the app and within the system settings? Any other tips, such as avoiding installing certain apps or anything else you might suggest, for getting this amazing app to run optimally?
So I just bought a nexus 10 and among the many reasons for getting one, I want to take notes with it. I've bought myself a nice stylus that works wonderfully on iPads and my galaxy nexus phone. However, writing with the same stylus and exact same apps on my nexus 10 isn't working as one would hope. It seems to lag quite badly in picking up where my stylus is and this forces me to write very slowly so that it will pick up all of my strokes, thus making it pretty much useless in a classroom setting, but, like I said before, I don't see this at all with my galaxy nexus.
So, why am I seeing such a huge difference in performance between these two devices when (I assume) the nexus 10 would be so much more powerful than my phone? Is it the apps or the hardware? And how do I fix this issue without just writing my own note taking app?
I faced no problems working on freenote/ handwriting or myscript calculator ?? I might loook at the stylus and not the N10
devilcaeser2010 said:
I faced no problems working on freenote/ handwriting or myscript calculator ?? I might loook at the stylus and not the N10
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But I've seen this issue regardless of the stylus used... Even with my finger I see a lag.
I also tried free note on my phone and tablet and am seeing a lag only on the nexus 10. I seriously doubt that it's the stylus, it seems to be isolated to my device...though, I haven't tried this with any other nexus 10 device. I don't know anyone else who has one.
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a wild guess could be that the app aren't optimized for the high resolution screen and that is why they have trouble keeping up.
I haven't tried it myself yet but I will when I get my Nexus next week
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a wild guess could be that the app aren't optimized for the high resolution screen and that is why they have trouble keeping up.
I haven't tried it myself yet but I will when I get my Nexus next week
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That's my best guess so far as well. Thanks in advance for trying this out
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Are you on stock? Or did you root and install a custom ROM? what about a custom kernel?
I have found some ROMs to have far more input lag than others, so that is why I am wondering.
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Are you on stock? Or did you root and install a custom ROM? what about a custom kernel?
I have found some ROMs to have far more input lag than others, so that is why I am wondering.
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I'm on stock everything. I am using Apex Launcher though.
Well stock should be ok. I see the most input lag with custom roms that do a lot to the framework and launcher, such as Paranoid Android.
Did you verify http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36855724&postcount=20
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Did you verify http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36855724&postcount=20
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I actually already saw that thread but thank you for pointing it out.
I haven't touched the Dev options and wouldn't even know how to change the magnification. I've only had the device for about a week or two and haven't had any time to really get playing with it yet.
I use lecturenotes from the play store, haven't had much of a lag issue
Using latest AOKP PUB build and Ktmanta
Also have force 2d GPU rendering on dev options
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jrod091 said:
I use lecturenotes from the play store, haven't had much of a lag issue
Using latest AOKP PUB build and Ktmanta
Also have force 2d GPU rendering on dev options
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Just tried this with both lecture notes and free note (free note had less lag of the two from what I could tell)... It did improve the lag quite a bit, but I'm still seeing a noticeable and significant enough (in my opinion) lag. Seems that one step has been taken... Anybody got any others?
Also, I tried using Seeder but saw no significant difference on my device.
FYI, I'm now rooted but still using stock ROM/kernel.
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Just tried this with both lecture notes and free note (free note had less lag of the two from what I could tell)... It did improve the lag quite a bit, but I'm still seeing a noticeable and significant enough (in my opinion) lag. Seems that one step has been taken... Anybody got any others?
Also, I tried using Seeder but saw no significant difference on my device.
FYI, I'm now rooted but still using stock ROM/kernel.
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Sorry about that, my lag seems very minimal, I've been taking notes in class all semester and it sends I've been able to take them quicker in my n10 then on paper, lol
I'm rooted running AOKP PUB 2/11 wit KTManta kernel (this setup, along with sine customizations to the kernel, have made my tablet really responsive and smooth)
Edit: I guess I don't remember what I had previously written, lol my bad
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I'm still having this problem on stock 4.2.2 (as well as the latest CM nightly), and was wondering if anyone had any fixes. My Jot Classic works okay, but not well enough for any serious note-taking, and considerably slower than the same app/stylus on my nexus 4 and 7. My main issue is that it isn't sensitive enough to write small exponents and subscripts.
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I'm still having this problem on stock 4.2.2 (as well as the latest CM nightly), and was wondering if anyone had any fixes. My Jot Classic works okay, but not well enough for any serious note-taking, and considerably slower than the same app/stylus on my nexus 4 and 7. My main issue is that it isn't sensitive enough to write small exponents and subscripts.
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Do you have force GPU rendering on in developer options? If so, turn that off, it got rid if my lag on lecturenotes after the 4.2.2 update
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Today, I finally got my Nexus 10 and I started to investigate this ominous delay or lag. I indeed observe this lag on my Nexus 10 in LectureNotes and all other handwriting apps that I tested. As far as LectureNotes is concerned, I did a number of careful timing measurements and I think I can definitely exclude that the delay is due to slow drawing or anything like that. It seems that, on a Nexus 10, Android sends input events with a noticeable delay of around 250ms or so if they origin from touching the display, this is why a drawn line lags behind your stylus or finger. However, the delay is absent if you use a mouse (connected via Bluetooth), and hence there is no lag and the line follows the mouse pointer very closely. This is somewhat bad news, as this means that this problem cannot be solved within LectureNotes.
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Today, I finally got my Nexus 10 and I started to investigate this ominous delay or lag. I indeed observe this lag on my Nexus 10 in LectureNotes and all other handwriting apps that I tested. As far as LectureNotes is concerned, I did a number of careful timing measurements and I think I can definitely exclude that the delay is due to slow drawing or anything like that. It seems that, on a Nexus 10, Android sends input events with a noticeable delay of around 250ms or so if they origin from touching the display, this is why a drawn line lags behind your stylus or finger. However, the delay is absent if you use a mouse (connected via Bluetooth), and hence there is no lag and the line follows the mouse pointer very closely. This is somewhat bad news, as this means that this problem cannot be solved within LectureNotes.
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If that is the case, could the input delay be tweaked or removed through kernel modifications?
@EniGmA1987: If my explanation is correct and if one can modify the input handling, this might be possible. It seems that users with non-stock ROMS do not suffer from this problem, but this is just my impression based on contacts with LectureNotes' users and might be wrong.
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@EniGmA1987: If my explanation is correct and if one can modify the input handling, this might be possible. It seems that users with non-stock ROMS do not suffer from this problem, but this is just my impression based on contacts with LectureNotes' users and might be wrong.
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Hey, I'm one of the people that has contacted you, and I can say that the input lag is significantly less on a custom ROM then on stock. Still there, but very slight
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acadoid said:
Today, I finally got my Nexus 10 and I started to investigate this ominous delay or lag. I indeed observe this lag on my Nexus 10 in LectureNotes and all other handwriting apps that I tested. As far as LectureNotes is concerned, I did a number of careful timing measurements and I think I can definitely exclude that the delay is due to slow drawing or anything like that. It seems that, on a Nexus 10, Android sends input events with a noticeable delay of around 250ms or so if they origin from touching the display, this is why a drawn line lags behind your stylus or finger. However, the delay is absent if you use a mouse (connected via Bluetooth), and hence there is no lag and the line follows the mouse pointer very closely. This is somewhat bad news, as this means that this problem cannot be solved within LectureNotes.
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Sorry for not being more involved in this thread...been really busy lately.
I feel that have solved this issue for my current configuration. I've found that with the following setup, any lag that may be occurring is so slight that I either don't notice or I don't mind it:
-Get a stylus that actually works well (I had accidentally bought the first generation of the Adonit Jot Pro which has horrible sensitivity. However, after obtaining the 2nd generation, I've had no problems at all... one of my biggest reasons behind the lag was this 1st generation stylus)
-Stock 4.2.2
-Run Seeder 2.0
-DON'T force GPU handling
-Using LectureNotes Pro
-Create all lecture notes notebooks with a much higher resolution than what is initially set as the default. (This is what made the biggest difference)
From what I've observed, it seems to me that the best explanation behind any significant lag on this device is its extremely high resolution. I assume that most handwriting apps are programmed in such a way that the increase in pixel count hinders the sensitivity of the app itself.
Hi,
I've been searching the internet for a solution to have the Note 4 multi window functionality for my Note 3 (especially the floating window part). So far I've only found partial answers, but no real solution.
So here's my question: is it possible? If so, please point me in the right direction
Thanks!
If this is what you mean by multiwindow, flashing a Note 7 ported ROM might be the easiest way to get this, can't say about stock ROM though as I've only used stock for a week or two
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If this is what you mean by multiwindow, flashing a Note 7 ported ROM might be the easiest way to get this, can't say about stock ROM though as I've only used stock for a week or two
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Yeah it's exactly that what I mean.
Do the ported Note 7 ROMs work flawlessly on the Note 3? I want the multi window functionality, but not if let's say my camera suddenly doesn't work that good anymore.
Thanks.
Spir4 said:
Yeah it's exactly that what I mean.
Do the ported Note 7 ROMs work flawlessly on the Note 3? I want the multi window functionality, but not if let's say my camera suddenly doesn't work that good anymore.
Thanks.
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Multi window is implemented in any Note3's stock rom since... always ! It's odd that you ask this question.
You did not find it or you do not know how to use it ?
zlazaar said:
Multi window is implemented in any Note3's stock rom since... always ! It's odd that you ask this question.
You did not find it or you do not know how to use it ?
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Yeah I know, but I want the Note 4 multi window functionality on my Note 3 (specifically the floating window functionality). Now it's a hassle with the Pen Window Loader to get the floating windows.
Spir4 said:
Yeah I know, but I want the Note 4 multi window functionality on my Note 3 (specifically the floating window functionality). Now it's a hassle with the Pen Window Loader to get the floating windows.
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You can use Skyolin Helper, it's an xposed module.
more details here : https://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/mod-skyolin-helper-t3330872
Spir4 said:
Do the ported Note 7 ROMs work flawlessly on the Note 3? I want the multi window functionality, but not if let's say my camera suddenly doesn't work that good anymore.
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Download and flash the Phronesis' N7 port and see for yourself Stable as a rock for me and I'm quite a power user.
zlazaar said:
You can use Skyolin Helper, it's an xposed module.
more details here : https://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/mod-skyolin-helper-t3330872
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This is cool for people without a Galaxy Note phone, because it adds the functionality of the Pen App Launcher. But what this module does, I can already do with the stock rom of the Note 3. What the Note 4 (and the following Notes) make it better is that they've bundled all the multi window functionality into one "app" or "launcher" (don't know how to call it).
On the Note 3, you have the regular multi window functionality (with the sidebar), and the floating window functionality (which can be launched with the S Pen, or a Pen Launcher App).
waqaswasil said:
Download and flash the Phronesis' N7 port and see for yourself Stable as a rock for me and I'm quite a power user.
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I'll definitely try that if nothing elses excists, but I prefer to use the stock ROM so I'll wait a little bit more.
Spir4 said:
This is cool for people without a Galaxy Note phone, because it adds the functionality of the Pen App Launcher. But what this module does, I can already do with the stock rom of the Note 3. What the Note 4 (and the following Notes) make it better is that they've bundled all the multi window functionality into one "app" or "launcher" (don't know how to call it).
On the Note 3, you have the regular multi window functionality (with the sidebar), and the floating window functionality (which can be launched with the S Pen, or a Pen Launcher App).
I'll definitely try that if nothing elses excists, but I prefer to use the stock ROM so I'll wait a little bit more.
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Everything you are describing that the Note 4 does can already be done in Note 3 but maybe you just don't know how to do it yet. Are you referring to being able to open up Facebook in normal mode and then trying make it in to a floating window? All you have to do is have the Multi-Window option "On" and then drag, with either your finger or your pencil, from either top corner drag down and it turns into a floating window.
YOU CAN ONLY DO THIS WITH SUPPORTED APPS (Chrome, Facebook, Whatsapp, etc...)
You need a custom ROM (Like Phronesis N7 that has already been mentioned) to be able to do this with ANY app
Let me know if this answers your question. I am not sure why you think the Note 4 has something extra when it has the exact same features and the Note 3 Multi-Window features.
ShaDisNX255 said:
Everything you are describing that the Note 4 does can already be done in Note 3 but maybe you just don't know how to do it yet. Are you referring to being able to open up Facebook in normal mode and then trying make it in to a floating window? All you have to do is have the Multi-Window option "On" and then drag, with either your finger or your pencil, from either top corner drag down and it turns into a floating window.
YOU CAN ONLY DO THIS WITH SUPPORTED APPS (Chrome, Facebook, Whatsapp, etc...)
You need a custom ROM (Like Phronesis N7 that has already been mentioned) to be able to do this with ANY app
Let me know if this answers your question. I am not sure why you think the Note 4 has something extra when it has the exact same features and the Note 3 Multi-Window features.
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I'm afraid you're completely wrong. What you describing the Note 3 can't do. Another extra functionality the Note 4 has is that you can create a floating app if that app is in split screen mode. You can only get a floating app with the Note 3 by using the S-Pen Launcher.
Are you saying that the floating window I just opened did not actually happen ??
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JJEgan said:
Are you saying that the floating window I just opened did not actually happen ??
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Lol
Well i can't do it on my Note 3, I've tried it a couple of times because I would love for it to work. I also can't find any Youtube videos of someone doing that on their Note 3. So you must understand my scepticism.
Lol in floating window .
Suggest you read the reply re how to and try.
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JJEgan said:
Lol in floating window .
Suggest you read the reply re how to and try.
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Well I can assure you it doesn't work. I have Android version 4.4.2 (Kitkat) if that matters.
Anyone else who can confirm what JJEgan says?
Spir4 said:
I'm afraid you're completely wrong. What you describing the Note 3 can't do. Another extra functionality the Note 4 has is that you can create a floating app if that app is in split screen mode. You can only get a floating app with the Note 3 by using the S-Pen Launcher.
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Well, it also depends on what version of stock ROM you are on. I had previously stuck with stock Lollipop 5.0 and I could easily access floating windows without the use of the S-Pen
I think if you are on Kit-Kat it's a whole different story. What version are you on?
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Spir4 said:
Well I can assure you it doesn't work. I have Android version 4.4.2 (Kitkat) if that matters.
Anyone else who can confirm what JJEgan says?
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Yup, you've just confirmed my hunch, you are using Kit Kat.
Upgrade to stock Lollipop
ShaDisNX255 said:
Well, it also depends on what version of stock ROM you are on. I had previously stuck with stock Lollipop 5.0 and I could easily access floating windows without the use of the S-Pen
I think if you are on Kit-Kat it's a whole different story. What version are you on?
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I'm on Kitkat. So Lollipop should have all these functions? Then I'll upgrade to Lollipop
Okay perfect thanks for everybody's help!
Spir4 said:
I'm on Kitkat. So Lollipop should have all these functions? Then I'll upgrade to Lollipop
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Yes, Lollipop has floating windows
Best of luck!