Which ROM should I use for best stylus tracking - Galaxy Tab 10.1 P7510 ? - Galaxy Tab 10.1 General

Hi,
I recently purchased a Galaxy Tab 10.1 P7510 and have literally tried out all the ROMs out there to try and find the best to help increase the tracking speed of the device. I have searched a lot for the answer but cannot seem to find a definitive one. All of them seem to have considerable lags with stylus input for taking notes.
I do not really care about palm detection, so finding a ROM which speeds up the tracking would be great help. I am not sure if tracking is related to the app that I use as well but I have also tried most of the notepad apps and have found that Antipaper Notes (Zoom function) is the best along with FreeNote (Tracks better, but cannot work on it like an actual notepad)
I just need a bit of help finding the best ROM to take notes on as that is my main use case for the Galaxy Tab.
Thanks!

Someone please help me

Task and phantom's new ROM has a pretty good touch response. heres the thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1284355

Tivo7 said:
Task and phantom's new ROM has a pretty good touch response. heres the thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1284355
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Thanks for your reply.
I have been on "In Paris V2" for quite some time now. It has a much better response time than the stock ROM but is still very difficult to use. I was wondering if anyone had better experience with any other ROM, or if it is the notes app which is the main cause for the slow tracking?

esc247 said:
Thanks for your reply.
I have been on "In Paris V2" for quite some time now. It has a much better response time than the stock ROM but is still very difficult to use. I was wondering if anyone had better experience with any other ROM, or if it is the notes app which is the main cause for the slow tracking?
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I have used every ROM on this forum for 7510 and I have to say, I like task's work the best (with the exception of his V7, but V7.1 fixes the issues i had with v7)
What problems are you having with In Paris V2?

Tivo7 said:
I have used every ROM on this forum for 7510 and I have to say, I like task's work the best (with the exception of his V7, but V7.1 fixes the issues i had with v7)
What problems are you having with In Paris V2?
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The only issue that I have is tracking with a stylus. Everything else is peachy! I want to be able to write notes on it with a stylus. And when trying to do so it seems that everytime I write an I or L in any case it completely fails to recognise it! :S and if i'm trying to write something quickly ten that's a whole new ball game!

esc247 said:
The only issue that I have is tracking with a stylus. Everything else is peachy! I want to be able to write notes on it with a stylus. And when trying to do so it seems that everytime I write an I or L in any case it completely fails to recognise it! :S and if i'm trying to write something quickly ten that's a whole new ball game!
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Well, truth be told, you're going to have that problem no matter what ROM you use. Are you doing handwriting to text? Or saving the handwriting as is?

Tivo7 said:
Well, truth be told, you're going to have that problem no matter what ROM you use. Are you doing handwriting to text? Or saving the handwriting as is?
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saving the handwriting as is. Oh well i guess i'll have to wait for ICS and see if that improves things or even for 3.2.
Cheers anyways!

esc247 said:
saving the handwriting as is. Oh well i guess i'll have to wait for ICS and see if that improves things or even for 3.2.
Cheers anyways!
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If you're saving handwriting as is, how is it "not recognizing" letters? It's not reading your pen strokes?

yeah it isnt recognising the strokes.

Just a thought, I have no idea if it would make a difference - google "stylus-r-us" and take a look at the website. They're expensive, but there IS a money-back guarantee. Might be worth a phone call to talk to them. Good luck.

I read somewhere in these forums that the Galaxy Tab 10.1 only has something like 600 <pressure> points whereas the ipad2 and Asus Eee Pad have 1200. No matter what stylus you use, handwriting is never going to be the strong point on this tablet unless Samsung addresses this issue. I've tried every Rom, writing app and stylus - some work better than others - but handwriting is still pretty much uselss because there simply isn't enough points available. It's a disappointment with the Galaxy Tab for sure, but I've been using the Logitech bluetooth keyboard (and case) and that's been working out well. But still miss the legible handwriting......
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Thanks for your reply guys! this is a real disappointment! and to make things worse, I bought the damn thing from the US or I woud've returned it for an iPad! Shizz guess im stuck with it now till the iPad 3 (or something better) comes out.

tmaurice said:
I read somewhere in these forums that the Galaxy Tab 10.1 only has something like 600 <pressure> points whereas the ipad2 and Asus Eee Pad have 1200. No matter what stylus you use, handwriting is never going to be the strong point on this tablet unless Samsung addresses this issue. I've tried every Rom, writing app and stylus - some work better than others - but handwriting is still pretty much uselss because there simply isn't enough points available. It's a disappointment with the Galaxy Tab for sure, but I've been using the Logitech bluetooth keyboard (and case) and that's been working out well. But still miss the legible handwriting......
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Thanks, I reached the same conclusions. planning on buying a zagg bluetooth keyboard.

Related

Here's the new ICS keyboard.

Ton of feature rich keyboards I know...but I like this.
Like the huge space bar...less errors. http://www.mediafire.com/?wy2wryijxpvk7q7
Once you've had swype you don't ever go back
straxusii said:
Once you've had swype you don't ever go back
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BS. Never liked swype and don't use it. The version on the Epic Touch is buggy and slow.
rockky said:
Ton of feature rich keyboards I know...but I like this.
Like the huge space bar...less errors. http://www.mediafire.com/?wy2wryijxpvk7q7
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Thanks for sharing. But, I can't find voice recognize. Any idea?
linzgeneral said:
BS. Never liked swype and don't use it. The version on the Epic Touch is buggy and slow.
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Seriously I never tried it before the note and I find it far quicker and more accurate to type, really impressed.
And definitely wouldnt use another keyboard now that didnt work by tracing out the word.
straxusii said:
Seriously I never tried it before the note and I find it far quicker and more accurate to type, really impressed.
And definitely wouldnt use another keyboard now that didnt work by tracing out the word.
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Yea. I used swype on my HD2.
I mean I could go back, but Swype is so much quicker and easier.
I like Swype!
I've tried Swype a few times but I can't get the feel of it at all so never use it. Trying the ics keyboard now and finding it's a bit better at auto correcting spaces which is handy.
Swype rules.
S-pen toggle ICS keyboard
love this ICS keyboard layout (having such a small space bar on others just pisses me off), but is there any way to add the Pen input for it on the SGN? kinda defeats the purpose of it on this handset if you can't use it.
straxusii said:
Seriously I never tried it before the note and I find it far quicker and more accurate to type, really impressed.
And definitely wouldnt use another keyboard now that didnt work by tracing out the word.
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Swype is by far the best. It's so easy and simple and forgiving. I barely even hit my intended letters and it almost always knows what I'm typing. The idea of taping out messages or emails seems archaic now. Especially with the s-pen....it's just such an effortless pleasure.
Takes a day, max. That being said, is love to be able to use Swype on the ics keyboard.
JG
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rockky said:
Ton of feature rich keyboards I know...but I like this.
Like the huge space bar...less errors. http://www.mediafire.com/?wy2wryijxpvk7q7
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Thanks
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I tried the keyboad but have no comment as of now. Why? Because it still lags just like the previous other keyboards I've tried, if your a fast texter like myself the phone is slow & cannot catch up which leads to mistakes in EVERY word I write, it's a nightmare...
I hope they fix this issue in the next update.
Currently using ''smart keyboard pro'' which I think is one of the BEST keyboards, also being VERY customizable & comes with several great skins, all of which are great in their own way, even the colours you can change...
I think the note will be FAR superior once it gets the ice cream update and will be even smoother and faster than what it already is.
I found it initially lagged but after turning off most of the features it works OK now aside from occasional lags which I assume is due to some other application slowing it down. Its auto correct can be intermittent but I have it turned down as I don't want it too aggressive

Art Transformer

So people, has anyone here been using is TF as a drawing tablet? I basically got mine thinking it would do a decent job replacing my graphic tablet when I'mnot at home, and I must say that with Photoshop Touch and the adonit Jot, it's been really great.
So if there's anybody here who uses it this way, I would very much like to see what they managed to obtain, so show off !
For people interested, here is what I got to do with a little work (and I have a last one, with a topless girl, which his my last and favorite creation... but I'm not sure I can show it here).
What do you use? Also, must show or we won't believe you can draw naked girls.
I made my signature with the jot and PS touch, I've done other things as well..like a SPARK signature logo in paul burton's dev thread..very handy..
That's some nice stuffs
Mercvtio said:
(and I have a last one, with a topless girl, which his my last and favorite creation... but I'm not sure I can show it here).
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Post the tits. Nudity is perfectly appropriate in art.
luna_c666 said:
I made my signature with the jot and PS touch, I've done other things as well..like a SPARK signature logo in paul burton's dev thread..very handy..
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How did you manage to get a different brush in PS Touch ? I can't find for the life of me a way to change it...
horndroid said:
Post the tits. Nudity is perfectly appropriate in art.
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Okay, so here we go :
Yeah, from what I've gathered you can't change brush shape, only size, opacity, flow and hardness, but you can enable pressure sensitivity, yet it just random jitters with the jot, sure the jot 2 will enable this option fully, ICS already has pressure sensitivity via Bluetooth function built in IIRC.
But you get warp and filter masks etc so i use these functions to address the missing brush options.
Speaking of pen pressure... Did anyone try the stylus from the HTC Flyer or the Samsung Galaxy note with our TF ? PS Touch and SBPro claim they use the pressure ; can we get it with these ?
Mercvtio said:
Speaking of pen pressure... Did anyone try the stylus from the HTC Flyer or the Samsung Galaxy note with our TF ? PS Touch and SBPro claim they use the pressure ; can we get it with these ?
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Unfortunately, I don't think so. With those pens, AFAIK, they require special hardware in the screen similar to a Wacom screen.
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So people, has anyone here been using is TF as a drawing tablet? I basically got mine thinking it would do a decent job replacing my graphic tablet when I'mnot at home, and I must say that with Photoshop Touch and the adonit Jot, it's been really great.
So if there's anybody here who uses it this way, I would very much like to see what they managed to obtain, so show off
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Wow man those are great! I'm no artist, lucky if I can draw a stick figure with straight lines lol.
Awesome work and I'm impressed these can be accomplished on our OG Transformers
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Interesting
Technology Transforms Art.
Nice!
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Unfortunately, I don't think so. With those pens, AFAIK, they require special hardware in the screen similar to a Wacom screen.
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Well, given that theses styli are battery powered, I figured they would analyse the pressure themselves and send the,information to the device... after all that's the way my lowgrade Aiptek tablet works.
Thank you to the others for your nice comments.
Up !
Just to let you know I purchased Sketchbook Pro : wanted to see if it could be easier than Photoshop Touch to use. Well, I find the UI really intuitive, and it has freaking brushes ! Yay.
The con is that the number of layers is limited - 7 or 8, not sure. I only know I've found myself merging layers 'cause I needed a new one and had reached the app's limit.
Anyway, here's what I did this evening : took me about one hour, and I'm quite pleased with the way it turned out.
Mercvtio said:
Anyway, here's what I did this evening : took me about one hour, and I'm quite pleased with the way it turned out.
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Nice man, I wish I had this kind of talent.
Just got sketchbook pro. Takes alot of getting used to but I like it so far! I am using a regular pen for tablets. This sketch took a while because I had to figure what everything does lol. Anyone got tips on using sketchbook pro?
Yay, like it - a lot! As you might already have guessed, you'll find the Transformer works best with sketching: getting a clean line can be a pain the ass, but eventually, everything seems to be possible.
As for tips, I'm afraid I don't have any. I know I have spent a fair amount of time learning to edit my brushes (you can change opacity, smoothness, spacing, hardness/smoothness... almost everything, for both the extremities and the middle of a line) only to find my settings didn't stick when I would close the app... but hey, with a bit of practice, it's pretty fast to set up again. If you ever used Photoshop or the Gimp, you'll find a lot of similarities.

First Impressions of a new 10.1 owner.

Just got a new 10.1 yesterday and gave myself a day to see how much I like it. Speed is always a big deal for me. Im actually typing from the tab now. The keyboard isnt too bad, but I dont see a autocorrection so far, but have not looked into it. The speed of the Touchwiz and homescreens is much better than most had me believe. I dont have any lag between the tapping of the arrow and the animation to show the quick apps.
The tablet also came fully updated, as far as the tablet shows through the update wizard. I will eventually check up the dev section and make sure I have the latest update today or tomorrow. The touchscreen does show a bit of lag as far as drawing with the fingers but isnt too bad and rougly on course with the A100 from Acer, my previous tablet. Battery is also great, and came 50% charged when I bought it, and didnt drop below 40% for the 4 hours I had used it before throwing it on the charger and watching some youtube and netflix.
Anyways, that was a quick review, and I love the tablet as of right now, when I thought the Tw UX was going to be a pain, but hasshown to be opposite and not too bad.
Thanks,
Mike
I just ordered one of these. I dunno if I'll get it since the contract was too good to be true. Nonetheless, if it get it, it'll be a worthy successor to my übermodified ZTE Light.
try ADWlauncher ....is the best by far for interface
Go launcher HD... not on market, Google it .
It works flawlessly.
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You should get "ADWlauncher Ex"
It's a very good launcher replacement, better than the stock one.
For the keyboard, you can try Thumb Keyboard
both apps aren't free... but it's worth it
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Just got a new 10.1 yesterday and gave myself a day to see how much I like it. Speed is always a big deal for me. Im actually typing from the tab now. The keyboard isnt too bad, but I dont see a autocorrection so far, but have not looked into it. The speed of the Touchwiz and homescreens is much better than most had me believe. I dont have any lag between the tapping of the arrow and the animation to show the quick apps.
The tablet also came fully updated, as far as the tablet shows through the update wizard. I will eventually check up the dev section and make sure I have the latest update today or tomorrow. The touchscreen does show a bit of lag as far as drawing with the fingers but isnt too bad and rougly on course with the A100 from Acer, my previous tablet. Battery is also great, and came 50% charged when I bought it, and didnt drop below 40% for the 4 hours I had used it before throwing it on the charger and watching some youtube and netflix.
Anyways, that was a quick review, and I love the tablet as of right now, when I thought the Tw UX was going to be a pain, but hasshown to be opposite and not too bad.
Thanks,
Mike
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Thanks all forth replies. I havebthe thumb keyboard already, but don't need a new launcher or anything yet, since the stock is working perfect. The next next thing I'm waiting on is the ics update in the coming months. I do plan to root this soon, but won't use an ics Rom since I use the cameras often. I may throw Task or overcome on this instead while I wait. Overall a very good tablet, and the detail is amazing as far as the resolution and everything else goes.
mvan4310 said:
Thanks all forth replies. I havebthe thumb keyboard already, but don't need a new launcher or anything yet, since the stock is working perfect. The next next thing I'm waiting on is the ics update in the coming months. I do plan to root this soon, but won't use an ics Rom since I use the cameras often. I may throw Task or overcome on this instead while I wait. Overall a very good tablet, and the detail is amazing as far as the resolution and everything else goes.
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I have never liked ADW launcher and tried the Go HD launcher today and I don't like it either.. I'm with you, I enjoy the stock one the best..
Thumb Keyboard ROCKS and so does HD Widgets and Reader HD..
Task 14 is just as fast as ICS and its rock solid and stable...
Enjoy the Tab, I still love mine 6 months after buying it...
Mine came with Swype built in (a TMobile tab) and I rooted it, and uninstalled the installed version and use the newest one from their site. I just love the black keys.
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theROMinator said:
Go launcher HD... not on market, Google it .
It works flawlessly.
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Although, I've tried this and readily liked it. Isn't it still in beta2 with next to no options for changing anything? It's been a few days since I've checked so maybe its been updated again.
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Benzoman said:
Although, I've tried this and readily liked it. Isn't it still in beta2 with next to no options for changing anything? It's been a few days since I've checked so maybe its been updated again.
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Its still beta 2 with zero options..
I have a gift through my ADSL company to bring 3 guests
P7500 is the white model. I bought a white cover and buyincoins amazonUK an adapter to make memory cards and USB flash drives.
the hard disk via USB (2.5) do not work, ask for energy.
morrit said:
I have a gift through my ADSL company to bring 3 guests
P7500 is the white model. I bought a white cover and buyincoins amazonUK an adapter to make memory cards and USB flash drives.
the hard disk via USB (2.5) do not work, ask for energy.
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If you're needing help with the hard disk, you need to search first, and then if nothing is found make a new thread in Q&A section.
It will probably be missed in here and considered rude hijacking someone elses thread.
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If you are on HC 3.2 you are alright, but if still on 3.1 I'd news astonished if you liked the touch wiz. It its just horrible. ADW EX its the lightest and the most heavily customisable. The most appealing is spb 3d. It its amazing but uses more ram.
However congrats for your new tab and hope you enjoy it;-)
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If you are on HC 3.2 you are alright, but if still on 3.1 I'd news astonished if you liked the touch wiz. It its just horrible. ADW EX its the lightest and the most heavily customisable. The most appealing is spb 3d. It its amazing but uses more ram.
However congrats for your new tab and hope you enjoy it;-)
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The stock experience was great. Im using task 14 now and honestly don't see very much improvement in speed, but I always love a custom rom and root. Honestly I prefer stock launchers over custom ones for no apparent reason .

S pen adjustment with TouchScreenTune

As you know, those of us with Galaxy Notes complain about the "lagginess" of the device and the inaccuracy of the S pen. There is an app called TouchScreenTune on the Play Store for Galaxy Note that lets you adjust the S Pen accuracy and the Screens responsiveness.
The free version lets you see that the app actually does work and the licenced version lets you save the settings. The licence is 5 bucks. And, of course, your phone has to be rooted. But I would highly recommend TouchScreenTune.
nice finding! looks good... i hope the author of this app makes money, but on the other hand I hope we get the fix for free on ICS...
Thanks for the info. The offcenter calibration of the s-pen have made me not use it at all!
i cant find it in the market
kkg720 said:
i cant find it in the market
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/...1bGwsMSwxLDEwMiwiY29tLnZpdGFsLnRzdC5uNzAwMCJd
Overpriced and completely unnecessary
And the full version is an out-of-market purchase?
No dice.
That said, I'd hardly classify $5 as "overpriced" if it works as advertised.
Wasnt this a free app originally made for the Galaxy S II? What happened there?
I remember just grabbing the apk over at the S II forums before
KaliKot said:
Wasnt this a free app originally made for the Galaxy S II? What happened there?
I remember just grabbing the apk over at the S II forums before
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yeah it was intended for the GS2. Perhaps this is a placebo effect people are getting on their note? lol
installed trial, tested, changed offsets, tested
WOW, NO DIFFERENCE.
uninstalled.
I actually did purchase the licence myself and I do notice a difference. Is it perfect? Not really. But it does make an improvement...at least to my eyes anyway. I have a pinball game app and since I increased the touch screen sensitivity, the flippers respond more quickly. Not as quickly as I would like, but an improvement none the less. As for the s pen settings, it works as advertised. But I wonder why Sammy didn't include something like this in the settings menu in the first place. Maybe with the ICS update? I hope so.
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installed trial, tested, changed offsets, tested
WOW, NO DIFFERENCE.
uninstalled.
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In the trial version the settings are lost when the phone locks.
Spen calibration is really only an issue for left handed ppl who curl their hand when writing... other ppl probably wont experience it. Its very noticeable when i write. Lecture notes app has a calibration setting for writing I just use that.
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Overpriced and completely unnecessary
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I have to agree! The reason for the slight offset of the S-Pen is due to the natural way you hold a pen when writing on the screen. Therefore Samsung set it like this purposely. After a short time you get used to how this works and it becomes natural.
I did find another app though when looking at this.. called Jotter (for Galaxy Note only) it has a 100% palm rejection when writing on the screen, so it feels more natural to rest your hand as you write. I tried it for the 15 minutes and it worked well, but I don't write notes enough to justify spending £3 for it.
in order for this to work properly there needs to be some code that is put into the kernel. We on the i717 have a debug kernel that DA_g created that has KALLSYMS + KALLSYMS_ALL in it. Im not sure if this alone is all that is needed but it does make my SPEN more precise as apposed to not having this at all. But in order for this to work I had to use da_g debug kernel.. any other kernel it didnt change anything....

HELP! Those of you who came to the Note from an N900...

... How long did it take you to feel like you'd made the right choice?
Right now the only thing I'm liking is the screen...
Scrolling in the browser seems choppier than my stock n900, and I'm missing the keyboard massively...
Really want to end up loving it, but all I can see right now are things that make me feel like it;s a massive step backwards...
Tedri Mark said:
... How long did it take you to feel like you'd made the right choice?
Right now the only thing I'm liking is the screen...
Scrolling in the browser seems choppier than my stock n900, and I'm missing the keyboard massively...
Really want to end up loving it, but all I can see right now are things that make me feel like it;s a massive step backwards...
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Well...to be honest i don't know what to say - if you don't like it, you don't like it - you get used to it. Few year ago i was all about physical keyboards, but with introduction of the iPhone i realized it's time to let go. It took me some time but i finally got used to on-screen keyboards - and believe you me, there isn't a single on-screen keyboard that's better than the one on the Note ( the stock ICS / CM9 one, not the TouchWiz crap ).
About the scrolling...what ROM/Browser do you use ? I recommend CM9 with stock browser - super smooth "iphone-like" experience.
been there, done that. i got used to it really fast. the only thing that i'm really missing is the keyboard. i send a ton of text. but u get used to the virtual keyboard by time.
also, my note runs really smooth. i flashed a stock ICS and i'm running latest speedmod kernel.
I came from the n900 and it took a few weeks but you will get there. I missed the keyboard at first but when o use the n900 now I carnt use the hardware keybord , all I can say is stick with it you will grow to love the note and won't want to go to any other phone .
Bit i will say I'm cursed I had the dreaded USB port failure on my n900 several times and now had it on my note so be careful
But the n900 is the only phone I know to survive a 90mph tumble down the road and survive the note isn't as durable get a cover on that screen
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been there, done that. i got used to it really fast. the only thing that i'm really missing is the keyboard. i send a ton of text. but u get used to the virtual keyboard by time.
also, my note runs really smooth. i flashed a stock ICS and i'm running latest speedmod kernel.
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Reluctant to upgrade to ICS because I don't want to lose flash in the browser.. I've got used to the web in my pocket being the same as the web on my desktop..
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I came from the n900 and it took a few weeks but you will get there. I missed the keyboard at first but when o use the n900 now I carnt use the hardware keybord , all I can say is stick with it you will grow to love the note and won't want to go to any other phone .
Bit i will say I'm cursed I had the dreaded USB port failure on my n900 several times and now had it on my note so be careful
But the n900 is the only phone I know to survive a 90mph tumble down the road and survive the note isn't as durable get a cover on that screen
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Yep, this was my second N900, the first one suffered the dodgy port, was fixed, then broke again, and so I got a brand new one last March. Was fine literally up until about a month ago at the end (luckily) of my holiday, when it wouldn;t switch on. Now if the battery runs out I have to reflash, and the power button does nothing, either when the phone is on off.. Ah well..
It's not so much the general typing, so much as ctrl-x,c,v, and cursor keys to edit text and scroll up/down dialog windows in browsers etc, but after a quick google it seems there's other keyboards with cursor function.
Ctrl+N for a new browser window, or contact was always well handy, and being able to start typing someone's name to bring up their details rather than having to press contacts first...
Also I can't figure out how to use keys to interact with flash in the browser...
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Well...to be honest i don't know what to say - if you don't like it, you don't like it - you get used to it. Few year ago i was all about physical keyboards, but with introduction of the iPhone i realized it's time to let go. It took me some time but i finally got used to on-screen keyboards - and believe you me, there isn't a single on-screen keyboard that's better than the one on the Note ( the stock ICS / CM9 one, not the TouchWiz crap ).
About the scrolling...what ROM/Browser do you use ? I recommend CM9 with stock browser - super smooth "iphone-like" experience.
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At the mo I'm on gingerbread and using the stock browser, literally just got the note today, but keen to delve right in once I'm sure I'll be keeping it. Was well at home in the terminal on the N900, power kernel, overclocking etc, but it all seemed a lot safer - I've seen a lot of threads about people accidentally bricking their Notes...
Just had a little play with some N64 roms, the increased screen size and speed are at least a couple of nice plusses so far...
Trying to find a PSX emulator, ideally free... Again, I think having the N900 spoiled me..
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Reluctant to upgrade to ICS because I don't want to lose flash in the browser.. I've got used to the web in my pocket being the same as the web on my desktop..
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Flash works just fine on ICS. The only thing is that Chrome for Android doesn't support flash. The rest of them does.
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LordManhattan said:
Flash works just fine on ICS. The only thing is that Chrome for Android doesn't support flash. The rest of them does.
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Ah, sweet, maybe I will do the upgrade then, although still a bit nervous as I've heard that even the official Samsung ICS release is not 100% safe?
Or have I just misinterpreted that?
Seems that although flash is working, it is maybe not working as well as under gingerbread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1666913
I came from n900, the second best phone I got after my lovely Note of course!
Yes I did miss the hw keyboard but when I found swype option it was an OMG it is really rally fast for typing, in both case you need two hands, so it is not a problem in this case.
About the browser, on n900 was a real desktop browser with flash included, really great, never missed my laptop under this point of view. But, Note with ICS seems to be good too, didn't test enough but saw an option to turns it as a desktop browser, and we have here last flash version!
If we talk about battery life, n900 loses badly, Note is incredible with batt, longer last, whole working day with some fun included. I just charge my note once a day.
Well I don't remember what other things did like to me on n900, that means I don't miss it yeah!
Ohh the contact manager was better on n900, never had duplicates contacts, the synchronization with social networks was amazing. On Note, after many months with can't handle SNS sync properly, in fact my contact list is a mess
Hope it helps, regards mate!
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i came from an n900 as well.
its not too bad once you figure how to get things done.
i still prefer the hardware keyboard on the n900 though since i could feel the keys, so i could type without looking. but after a bit of practice with the note, i got a lot faster (to the point where my note lags, stutters and doubles up on letters). the only thing i'd prefer would be a slightly smaller screen for typing, so i'll probably get a smaller phone next time.
the only thing i really miss from the n900 is the integrated stand. that was useful for when you want to watch movies.
Tedri Mark said:
Ah, sweet, maybe I will do the upgrade then, although still a bit nervous as I've heard that even the official Samsung ICS release is not 100% safe?
Or have I just misinterpreted that?
Seems that although flash is working, it is maybe not working as well as under gingerbread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1666913
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Sure, flash isn't the smoothest and best thing on Android, but it runs and does the job. Stay away from the leaked kernels. ROM's that uses Xplodwild's kernel like CM9 and ParanoidAndroid are safe and won't have the brick bug.
Just read the OP and do some research before you flash anything.
Tedri Mark, if you owed a N900 before that means you like physical keyboard and your best choice after the Note would certainly be the Samsung Captivate Glide which has a 4inch screen and keyboard - some say it's a Galaxy S2 with a keyboard. It's better if you look for some reviews on youtube to get a better idea.
until 2011 n900 was the best phone ver made for me but new phones are really way better then that now. about the physical keyboard, i have phones without physical keyboard for 2 years and still missing it . screen keyboards are ok but not good as physical ones for me.
kromosto said:
screen keyboards are ok but not good as physical ones for me.
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Definitely, there is nothing better than a physical keyboard for typing! I missed that too.....if samsung could build a 4.5 or 4.8 inch screen phone with same same specs as the S2 + a physical keyboard, personally I'll sell my Note immediately! I emailed a lot daily and typing using a virtual keyboard is a pain when you are in a hurry with a lot of things to write!
Experimenting with browsers at the Mo, struggling to find one that renders the non mobile version of Facebook properly.. Both dolphin hd and ics browser + seem to struggle with the pop up gallery format... Quite annoying, and I'm not keen at all on the cut down versions and apps.
somewhat long read...
well, what you aren't missing is the battery life. It was just ****ty on the N900, and the screensize, and the resolution.
that was a coincidence that you posted it. I have the exact same problem with my conversion from my n900 to a Galaxy Note.
I really really wanted to like the Galaxy Note (i am a linuxfanboy after all for over 12 years)but in all honesty, i don't. I was sad to see such a (in my eyes beautiful) device like the n900 be abandoned by nokia (but that's for another section i guess to QQ) It's not the size that turned me off or the device itself (i love the screensize!), but the way Android works for me. It's just feels cumbersome, sure it can do a LOT of things but most of these things it does "feel" slow at doing, and buggy...
Touchscreen typing in comparison to the N900 feels ... well nothing ofcourse, you don't feel anything at all... a physical keyboard still feels good and better than nothing. Though the onscreen keyboards of android are still way worse than the iPhone keyboard. But I can't get used to this typing. To be fair I think I type faster now on my SGN but that has probably got to do with the fact that I care less about my spelling and 'auto-correct' mistakes. I don't text/mail as much as i used to do only when it's necessary. I don't feel like picking up my SGN if i want to browse anything on the web, games (multitouch anyone?) scrolling is still slow and laggy. Moving around in android is something i do out of neccesity not because i wanted to explore things on my phone like the N900.
Multitasking is badly designed in my eyes on the Android if you set it next to Maemo (CTRL-BACKSPACE for instant satisfaction!). I don't like to push a button for 2 seconds; scroll for the right app and click on the touchscreen and then go to that application; that must be instantaneous to make it really multitasking ready. Clicking the homescreen button; selecting the app on my homescreen feels faster even...).
I try to run the most bleeding edge ICS builds and tirelessly try to convince people (iPhone and Windows)it is better in giving a versatile phone experience(i used the nightlies from CM9) but when they show up with their ****ty iPhones and casually just look up some site and i try to look up the same site. The iPhone is always faster in getting to that specific site; more fluid in scrolling, doesn't fail at sites where it really shouldn't fail (gecko)("never happened before...wait don't go, it's still loading... almost there.. i think"). At the end my friends and i can only look at long youtube movies on my SGN("woah dude your big screen is soo nice! "oops huh did i just turn your SGN off when i hold it in landscape???") but anything other than that, iPhones and even windows phones now gets it done faster and more simple, responsive, less buggy. A year ago when i had the N900, i could look at everything without any of these problems... no mistyping... no workarounds with different browsers...
Cut copy paste... what a joke in comparison to the N900. i'm not even gonna start on that one. Try setting up some commands from the cli on your SGN... pfff (nevermind that %#FG)
Sometimes i'm thinking people are less critical about their phone experience because you only have 3 real choices atm for the newest hardware. android;iOS;winmango. Nokia DNR'd the N900 and their Maemo continuation which was a bad thing but it was a good product and i can't find any of the big companies making something that would remotely resemble the N900. Critical people here, please tell me i'm wrong, i would love to be wrong on this issue.
I'm sad, really sad, that my experience in getting a new (geeky) phone would be great but it's just not. The next level-up for me(android) rolled out a +4 on charisma but i needed the +dexterity and/or +intelligence
Mate, I don´t know if you just ordered a corrupted device...and of course I accept your experiences! But in most parts, I can´t share your points...
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It's just feels cumbersome, sure it can do a LOT of things but most of these things it does "feel" slow at doing, and buggy...
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Have you ever updated your device? Are you on ICS? And, as we are on XDA here, did you try out some custom Roms? e.g. RocketRom & speedmodkernel?`I had the N900 as well...and dude, if the Note is slow & buggy...the N900 is mordors very darkest ork-hole^^
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Touchscreen typing in comparison to the N900 feels ... well nothing ofcourse, you don't feel anything at all... a physical keyboard still feels good and better than nothing. Though the onscreen keyboards of android are still way worse than the iPhone keyboard.
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Which ones did you try out? There are some damn good KB for everyones taste, I´m sure with that...
Thanathos_78 said:
I don't feel like picking up my SGN if i want to browse anything on the web, games (multitouch anyone?) scrolling is still slow and laggy.
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Again, made some updates etc? At least MY Note is responsive as hell, VERY fast, scrolling is smooth like butter...and especially browsing is the very best experience I ever had on a smartphone (and man, I had them all )
Came from N900.
But I beta-tested the SGS and DeZire... so got accustomed to Android eventually.
There's somethings you can't do easily or at all. It takes alot of fiddling to get it "right".
But eventually you make it yours. And thanks to a really large ecosystem and other great features... it becomes hard to use the N900 again.
I wouldn't pick the DesireZ over the N900... but with the beast (aka n7k) I feel like its a worthy successor. Just need to pray that Android 4.1 Jelly Bean will use the Mainline kernel (3.5) and that it can be further "unlocked" by having deeper API's etc. One project to keep an eye on is the Necesitas, where they're trying to port the Qt (4/5) framework into Android... it would definitely "linux-ify" Android further. Or even the AML project, merging the mainline and Android kernels together.
I've had my Note for a month, and have reached the point where I would never want to go back to the N900 hardware keyboard. I suggest to learn swype, or try a few of the alternative keyboards. But even the stock Samsung onscreen keyboard is quite good - it saves a lot of time having the numeric keys always available.
The one thing I still miss is the N900's "mappero" mapping app (previously called Maemo Mapper). I've tried all of the available open source Android mapping apps, and they either have a deficient feature set, or they are buggy.
With a new platform, you always notice first the things that are missing compared to your old platform. Only later do you notice the things that are better. And so it is with the mapping app. Having discovered Osmand with its very efficient offline vector maps, I would miss those if I went back to mappero with its raster-only offline maps.
The hardware itself is everything that the N9x0 should have become.
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I've had my Note for a month, and have reached the point where I would never want to go back to the N900 hardware keyboard.
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Nowadays, physical keyboards are not a necessity for most of us since typing on a large screen like the Note is even easier. Thing is writting long emails or typing documents on a phone will always required a physical keyboard because this makes things easier to type at a constant speed with less or no mistakes than pressing virtual buttons on the screen.
If HTC or SAMSUNG could make a tilted screen phone with a physical keyboard similar to the 'HTC TOUCH PRO 2' or 'HTC Tilt 2' with a 4.7-5.0 screen, I'm pretty certain that many of us will shift to this phone.
Typing on galaxy note is awesome with Swype, the only thing is you should get used to it, the other big thing is spellings, since Swype will respond faster if you type correct spellings, for me it works like a breeze, for now with just Weeks into my note I'm deeply in love with this device as i surf the Web using wifi,i don't even open my laptop, the screen is just awesome not to mention the spen, I'm typing this using Swype,
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