Nexus 7, rooted, back to OEM/Stock~~factory, prior to rooting, read all available documentation regarding backups, said everything was on Google "cloud".....now that I am OEM w/root, how do I get back everything I setup installed and configured for the last week?
guruuno said:
Nexus 7, rooted, back to OEM/Stock~~factory, prior to rooting, read all available documentation regarding backups, said everything was on Google "cloud".....now that I am OEM w/root, how do I get back everything I setup installed and configured for the last week?
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If I understand the process correctly - it saves settings regarding Google services. That is apps such as Currents, Play Store, Google Now, etc. It shouldn't backup things such as random app data (IE Angry Birds) - you'll need to use a third party app such as Titanium Backup or App2Zip. For a full system image of apps/settings you'll have to do a nandroid backup through a recovery program (IE ClockworkMod).
Hope that cleared things up a bit. You're gonna be SOL for most of your stuff for this time, but for next time just make sure to double and triple check everything because backups make the going-to-stock process so much nice
Mine did it as soon as I signed into my account on setup.
Some apps had to be installed again from My apps at Google play but the data also was there after they installed. I had some list and such from a notepad app and they were replaced with the app.
So then, the preferred application-procedure is?
James-NC said:
Mine did it as soon as I signed into my account on setup.
Some apps had to be installed again from My apps at Google play but the data also was there after they installed. I had some list and such from a notepad app and they were replaced with the app.
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So then, to be clear, to have a similar procedure, like iPad/iPhone syncing, there is nothing "built in", and 3rd party applications need to be purchased or obtained free.......so what is the clear winner (easiest, best, most preferred)?
So which process?
guruuno said:
So then, to be clear, to have a similar procedure, like iPad/iPhone syncing, there is nothing "built in", and 3rd party applications need to be purchased or obtained free.......so what is the clear winner (easiest, best, most preferred)?
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Maybe not clear. I already did my N7 and was lost. Wife has hers all tweaked, wants me to root. I just want to restore exactly like an iPad so nothing is lost. Preferred method being search foe. Would like advice.
guruuno said:
So then, to be clear, to have a similar procedure, like iPad/iPhone syncing, there is nothing "built in", and 3rd party applications need to be purchased or obtained free.......so what is the clear winner (easiest, best, most preferred)?
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Google Play can redownload the apps you previously got from them. It will also sync certain (but probably not all) settings, wifi passwords, etc. However, the process of downloading takes around 30-60m and usually app data is not part of this sync.
This, I prefer to use titanium backup to backup all user apps and data (as a rule of thumb, you generally don't want to do the same for system apps/data). The backup is stored on your sd card (so, for example, after wiping data you can restore all your apps within around 15m, asynchronously) and you can also have it backed up to the cloud. Tit backup requires root and the pro version costs around $7.
You can use it to backup system data (your settings and all that) but this is a bad idea when you use custom roms. I usually restore my apps and set the rest manually, the whole process takes around 20m.
I don't know how well itunes backs up app data, so I can't answer the comparison question.
Unlocking is what wipes the data, not rooting. You are already past the point of no return as the restore info you get back from google does not deal with a lot of app data. You could have before unlocking, done a process which would have saved it, but it is not a normal process and certainly not automatic.
you are past that however already.
Now you are rooted, you can use Titanium Backup to do a real backup and you can also do a nandroid backup using Recovery so you don't have to deal with this in the future.
HOWEVER, just doing those backups doesn't guarrantee you can access them if your device is lost/stolen or damage beyond repair. So you need to come up with a method to copy those backup files occasionally to workstation off from time to time so, you have something to restore.
Then if you have to setup a new device, you can unlock, root, load TB, copy the backup files to the device and then restore the system back to where it was when you did the last backup.
guruuno said:
Maybe not clear. I already did my N7 and was lost. Wife has hers all tweaked, wants me to root. I just want to restore exactly like an iPad so nothing is lost. Preferred method being search foe. Would like advice.
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You need root (and an app like Titanium Backup) to back up your app data, and you need to have an unlocked bootloader to root. If you didn't already unlock the bootloader on the Nexus 7, then there's nothing you can do to back up all your app data because unlocking the bootloader essentially resets the device. Without a backup program, the most you can do is sync your device with Google Play and have it reinstall your missing apps after you wipe your device (but it won't restore your app data).
But......
AZImmortal said:
You need root (and an app like Titanium Backup) to back up your app data, and you need to have an unlocked bootloader to root. If you didn't already unlock the bootloader on the Nexus 7, then there's nothing you can do to back up all your app data because unlocking the bootloader essentially resets the device. Without a backup program, the most you can do is sync your device with Google Play and have it reinstall your missing apps after you wipe your device (but it won't restore your app data).
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But I did "root", and I did lose all my data, like it was OEM out of the box, but rooted....
Unlocking? Why would I 'unlock'? If I only want to use USB memory stick isn't rooting all I want?
Therefore, I'd get which program to root only to preserve everything.
The confusing part is "You need root (and an app like Titanium Backup) to back up your app data"
How can I have Titanium if I don't root, and if I root, I lose everything?
(or did I maybe also unlock mine..... I'm really confused, all I want is a 1-2-3 root app to install the Stick Mount. Period)
Thanks again for the replies, I'm hopefully getting this Android stuff
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Unlocking? Why would I 'unlock'? If I only want to use USB memory stick isn't rooting all I want?
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You need to unlock in order to root (though you can relock it after if you want, I wouldn't recommend it in case you need to do so again) and flash stuff.
If you didn't relock it from earlier (i.e. if you still have that "unlocked" symbol on boot), you'll be able to root again just by flashing the superuser program.
guruuno said:
The confusing part is "You need root (and an app like Titanium Backup) to back up your app data"
How can I have Titanium if I don't root, and if I root unlock, I lose everything?
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Wug's root toolkit has a backup/restore option.
In general, however, the answer is yes. You are not able to (at least without expertise) backup data from prior to your first unlock. That's why it's recommended to unlock your device asap if you decide to do so.
(The OEMs wipe everything upon unlock for security reasons - the only way to get around this is to use an exploit rather than the "fastboot oem unlock" command, but the discovery of such exploits is unpredictable.)
OK, here I go
thebobp said:
You need to unlock in order to root (though you can relock it after if you want, I wouldn't recommend it in case you need to do so again) and flash stuff.
If you didn't relock it from earlier (i.e. if you still have that "unlocked" symbol on boot), you'll be able to root again just by flashing the superuser program.
Wug's root toolkit has a backup/restore option.
In general, however, the answer is yes. You are not able to (at least without expertise) backup data from prior to your first unlock. That's why it's recommended to unlock your device asap if you decide to do so.
(The OEMs wipe everything upon unlock for security reasons - the only way to get around this is to use an exploit rather than the "fastboot oem unlock" command, but the discovery of such exploits is unpredictable.)
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Thanks for the attention to detail, I appreciate it.
I just install cm10 and I noticed that the settings such as wifi passwords etc have not been restored. Any ideas on how to restore them? I'd post on their thread but they don't have one for the N7 and I still don't have the privileges.
Hi folks,
I've used the Google Nexus 7 Root Tookit to root my new N7 and made sure to create a backup before doing anything weird and wonderful with my device.
I figured option 1 would be the safest (backup all installed apps), but now after rooting I find that my settings are missing, magazines from zinio need to be downloaded again etc.
So, what have I missed, and how do I make sure that I have a proper backup next time I need to do something?
Thanks!
crótach said:
Hi folks,
I've used the Google Nexus 7 Root Tookit to root my new N7 and made sure to create a backup before doing anything weird and wonderful with my device.
I figured option 1 would be the safest (backup all installed apps), but now after rooting I find that my settings are missing, magazines from zinio need to be downloaded again etc.
So, what have I missed, and how do I make sure that I have a proper backup next time I need to do something?
Thanks!
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When you performed Rooting on your device, all user contents got erased. Rooting & unlocking will effectively hard reset your device. That is why you need to re-set up all your apps and settings.
Hi. So I want to root my Nexus 7 but I've found mixed answers to this question. I was going to use this toolkit I found here.
When I root, will my apps and data (pictures and app data) be saved or can I save them? I use apps like Notes Lite and have games with data. So is there a way to backup all that data? I know there's the backup option in the toolkit but will it backup everything?
You will lose your userdata when you unlock the bootloader during rooting. You can try backing up those data using the Google Nexus 7 Toolkit before rooting, or by enabling Google's Cloud backup and restore, but don't count on getting it all restored flawlessly.
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You will lose your userdata when you unlock the bootloader during rooting. You can try backing up those data using the Google Nexus 7 Toolkit before rooting, or by enabling Google's Cloud backup and restore, but don't count on getting it all restored flawlessly.
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So what's the best way to save my data? I mainly have pictures, no music, and then the rest is app data like for MC4, Asphalt 6, and Real Racing 3. The rest I'm not terribly concerned about. I also just don't want to install my 100 apps back on individually. Pictures, I can just put on my laptop.
So is there a way to get all my apps back on without installing them again individually? Will the toolkit backup do that for me?
Titanium backup will do it, but you have to be rooted to use it, and you aren't yet.
Mark Skippen's Google Nexus 7 Toolkit should do it, since it backs up your userdata. I say should, because I haven't used that feature, since I've always been rooted, with Nandroid backups and Titanium backups. Also, that toolkit doesn't support Android 4.3 installing or rooting yet. He'll have to upgrade the SuperSU and Superuser managers he's currently using, to versions compatible with 4.3.
I didn't have to reinstall my 100 apps after upgrading, but I lost my game high score files. I had a Titanium backup, but so many apps were out of date, it was useless. I relied on Google's Cloud backup to restore my apps after upgrading to 4.3.
Ok i found an app called Helium to backup my app data. I'll just put my pictures on my laptop.
So i just realized at the same time read that you said the toolkit didnt support 4.3 yet and i had just updated to 4.3 this morning. Is there a way to go back to 4.2?
Hi!
[First of all, sorry for bad english ]
I have Nexus 4 E960
Android 4.4.2
I want to recover some photos I have deleted a week ago!
And for this I need to run app Undelete, but to run this app, need ROOT and unlock bootloader
But I DON'T WANT to ROOT and WIPE the phone (because it will make the deleted photos "cache" disappear too, right?
So, complicated situation! haha :crying:
Can please someone help me?
Thank you so much for your attention!
hellffer said:
Hi!
[First of all, sorry for bad english ]
I have Nexus 4 E960
Android 4.4.2
I want to recover some photos I have deleted a week ago!
And for this I need to run app Undelete, but to run this app, need ROOT and unlock bootloader
But I DON'T WANT to ROOT and WIPE the phone (because it will make the deleted photos "cache" disappear too, right?
So, complicated situation! haha :crying:
Can please someone help me?
Thank you so much for your attention!
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Anybody have any info on this? I am in the same boat here.
As much as i know, you once have to unlock bootloader with full wipe (this is required for flashing superSU which in turn is required for things like Bootunlocker.)
I have never tried this but does adb pull work for cache? you can get a copy of your cache with it. Also stock gallery stores thumbnails, these are not high quality and without root, they may only be option.
RohMish said:
As much as i know, you once have to unlock bootloader with full wipe (this is required for flashing superSU which in turn is required for things like Bootunlocker.)
I have never tried this but does adb pull work for cache? you can get a copy of your cache with it. Also stock gallery stores thumbnails, these are not high quality and without root, they may only be option.
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EEEEK...No way of rooting without unlocking bootloader huh?
Not sure how undelete works, but you are better off using diskdigger, you can root and use this as when you delete something it is not removed from the storage, it just removes the link to the files location and says that the location can now be overwritten. This means that if it is not overwritten then the data is still there, this is what diskdigger uses.
This also means you don't want to write any more data to your phone than is necessary until you recover your files as this will increase the chance of corrupting them.
(Rooting is write heavy)
The way to recover without rooting is to mount your phone to your computer as an external storage device then run the desktop disk digger application targeted at the phone storage, this should recover the files.
http://diskdigger.org
Note: this will recover all the files that have traces left on the drive so be prepared to trawl through them all looking for what you want.
Hope this helps, post back if needed.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk
Normally I'd use TWRP to create a full backup image but since I'm unrooted I'm not sure how to get this done.
[GUIDE] Full Phone Backup without Unlock or Root
Like a lot of you, I have been putting off unlocking the bootloader on my Nexus because I didn't want to have to go through the hassle of backing up everything manually and restoring individual application data; logging back into apps; saving...
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Does this method work for our phones?
I'm on Android 12 on my S10+.
DonDizzurp said:
Normálně bych použil TWRP k vytvoření úplné zálohy, ale protože nejsem rootnutý, nejsem si jistý, jak to udělat.
[GUIDE] Full Phone Backup without Unlock or Root
Like a lot of you, I have been putting off unlocking the bootloader on my Nexus because I didn't want to have to go through the hassle of backing up everything manually and restoring individual application data; logging back into apps; saving...
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Funguje tato metoda pro naše telefony?
Používám Android 12 na svém S10+.
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Hi, if you have a Samsung and you don't have root, I don't recommend backing up via ADB because Google doesn't support this anymore, it's more recommended to use Google One or on a Samsung you can use this guide which should also help you.
Don't use SmartSwitch.
First redundantly back up all critical data to at least 2 hdds that are physically and electronically isolated from each other and the PC.
Hand load everything; copy/paste, verify size and if readable. Any apps like Poweramp or ColorNote that allow for backup import/export do so. Organize your critical data; have a plan.
If you have a SD card it is your data drive; all critical data goes here including installable copies of all your apps. A full restore should be able to be done with the data on the SD card.
A clean load can last for years if you don't muck with the firmware ie upgrades/updates. Think it through and do it right the first time. If you do it right it won't need to be done again for years... that's what Android is capable of.
you can't create a full backup as you can't access the needed devices... the only thing you can backup is your sdcard,data and probably efs with system shell exploit