Nexus 7, rooted, back to OEM/Stock~~factory, prior to rooting, read all available documentation regarding backups, said everything was on Google "cloud".....now that I am OEM w/root, how do I get back everything I setup installed and configured for the last week?
guruuno said:
Nexus 7, rooted, back to OEM/Stock~~factory, prior to rooting, read all available documentation regarding backups, said everything was on Google "cloud".....now that I am OEM w/root, how do I get back everything I setup installed and configured for the last week?
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If I understand the process correctly - it saves settings regarding Google services. That is apps such as Currents, Play Store, Google Now, etc. It shouldn't backup things such as random app data (IE Angry Birds) - you'll need to use a third party app such as Titanium Backup or App2Zip. For a full system image of apps/settings you'll have to do a nandroid backup through a recovery program (IE ClockworkMod).
Hope that cleared things up a bit. You're gonna be SOL for most of your stuff for this time, but for next time just make sure to double and triple check everything because backups make the going-to-stock process so much nice
Mine did it as soon as I signed into my account on setup.
Some apps had to be installed again from My apps at Google play but the data also was there after they installed. I had some list and such from a notepad app and they were replaced with the app.
So then, the preferred application-procedure is?
James-NC said:
Mine did it as soon as I signed into my account on setup.
Some apps had to be installed again from My apps at Google play but the data also was there after they installed. I had some list and such from a notepad app and they were replaced with the app.
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So then, to be clear, to have a similar procedure, like iPad/iPhone syncing, there is nothing "built in", and 3rd party applications need to be purchased or obtained free.......so what is the clear winner (easiest, best, most preferred)?
So which process?
guruuno said:
So then, to be clear, to have a similar procedure, like iPad/iPhone syncing, there is nothing "built in", and 3rd party applications need to be purchased or obtained free.......so what is the clear winner (easiest, best, most preferred)?
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Maybe not clear. I already did my N7 and was lost. Wife has hers all tweaked, wants me to root. I just want to restore exactly like an iPad so nothing is lost. Preferred method being search foe. Would like advice.
guruuno said:
So then, to be clear, to have a similar procedure, like iPad/iPhone syncing, there is nothing "built in", and 3rd party applications need to be purchased or obtained free.......so what is the clear winner (easiest, best, most preferred)?
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Google Play can redownload the apps you previously got from them. It will also sync certain (but probably not all) settings, wifi passwords, etc. However, the process of downloading takes around 30-60m and usually app data is not part of this sync.
This, I prefer to use titanium backup to backup all user apps and data (as a rule of thumb, you generally don't want to do the same for system apps/data). The backup is stored on your sd card (so, for example, after wiping data you can restore all your apps within around 15m, asynchronously) and you can also have it backed up to the cloud. Tit backup requires root and the pro version costs around $7.
You can use it to backup system data (your settings and all that) but this is a bad idea when you use custom roms. I usually restore my apps and set the rest manually, the whole process takes around 20m.
I don't know how well itunes backs up app data, so I can't answer the comparison question.
Unlocking is what wipes the data, not rooting. You are already past the point of no return as the restore info you get back from google does not deal with a lot of app data. You could have before unlocking, done a process which would have saved it, but it is not a normal process and certainly not automatic.
you are past that however already.
Now you are rooted, you can use Titanium Backup to do a real backup and you can also do a nandroid backup using Recovery so you don't have to deal with this in the future.
HOWEVER, just doing those backups doesn't guarrantee you can access them if your device is lost/stolen or damage beyond repair. So you need to come up with a method to copy those backup files occasionally to workstation off from time to time so, you have something to restore.
Then if you have to setup a new device, you can unlock, root, load TB, copy the backup files to the device and then restore the system back to where it was when you did the last backup.
guruuno said:
Maybe not clear. I already did my N7 and was lost. Wife has hers all tweaked, wants me to root. I just want to restore exactly like an iPad so nothing is lost. Preferred method being search foe. Would like advice.
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You need root (and an app like Titanium Backup) to back up your app data, and you need to have an unlocked bootloader to root. If you didn't already unlock the bootloader on the Nexus 7, then there's nothing you can do to back up all your app data because unlocking the bootloader essentially resets the device. Without a backup program, the most you can do is sync your device with Google Play and have it reinstall your missing apps after you wipe your device (but it won't restore your app data).
But......
AZImmortal said:
You need root (and an app like Titanium Backup) to back up your app data, and you need to have an unlocked bootloader to root. If you didn't already unlock the bootloader on the Nexus 7, then there's nothing you can do to back up all your app data because unlocking the bootloader essentially resets the device. Without a backup program, the most you can do is sync your device with Google Play and have it reinstall your missing apps after you wipe your device (but it won't restore your app data).
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But I did "root", and I did lose all my data, like it was OEM out of the box, but rooted....
Unlocking? Why would I 'unlock'? If I only want to use USB memory stick isn't rooting all I want?
Therefore, I'd get which program to root only to preserve everything.
The confusing part is "You need root (and an app like Titanium Backup) to back up your app data"
How can I have Titanium if I don't root, and if I root, I lose everything?
(or did I maybe also unlock mine..... I'm really confused, all I want is a 1-2-3 root app to install the Stick Mount. Period)
Thanks again for the replies, I'm hopefully getting this Android stuff
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Unlocking? Why would I 'unlock'? If I only want to use USB memory stick isn't rooting all I want?
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You need to unlock in order to root (though you can relock it after if you want, I wouldn't recommend it in case you need to do so again) and flash stuff.
If you didn't relock it from earlier (i.e. if you still have that "unlocked" symbol on boot), you'll be able to root again just by flashing the superuser program.
guruuno said:
The confusing part is "You need root (and an app like Titanium Backup) to back up your app data"
How can I have Titanium if I don't root, and if I root unlock, I lose everything?
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Wug's root toolkit has a backup/restore option.
In general, however, the answer is yes. You are not able to (at least without expertise) backup data from prior to your first unlock. That's why it's recommended to unlock your device asap if you decide to do so.
(The OEMs wipe everything upon unlock for security reasons - the only way to get around this is to use an exploit rather than the "fastboot oem unlock" command, but the discovery of such exploits is unpredictable.)
OK, here I go
thebobp said:
You need to unlock in order to root (though you can relock it after if you want, I wouldn't recommend it in case you need to do so again) and flash stuff.
If you didn't relock it from earlier (i.e. if you still have that "unlocked" symbol on boot), you'll be able to root again just by flashing the superuser program.
Wug's root toolkit has a backup/restore option.
In general, however, the answer is yes. You are not able to (at least without expertise) backup data from prior to your first unlock. That's why it's recommended to unlock your device asap if you decide to do so.
(The OEMs wipe everything upon unlock for security reasons - the only way to get around this is to use an exploit rather than the "fastboot oem unlock" command, but the discovery of such exploits is unpredictable.)
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Thanks for the attention to detail, I appreciate it.
I just install cm10 and I noticed that the settings such as wifi passwords etc have not been restored. Any ideas on how to restore them? I'd post on their thread but they don't have one for the N7 and I still don't have the privileges.
Hey guys, I'm trying to root my Desire HD with AAHK.
The problem is, it says that I'll need to downgrade and downgrading will wipe my data.
Now I don't have a problem with downgrading, but I'd like to keep my data.
So I was wondering WHAT data will it wipe and how do I back-up?
I have titanium back-up installed but it needs root access, so that won't work.
I've copied all the files on my SD card to my laptop, to keep my images and stuff...
Is there a way to back-up other important files (if there are any?) before rooting?
Thanks in advance!
Laatst said:
Hey guys, I'm trying to root my Desire HD with AAHK.
The problem is, it says that I'll need to downgrade and downgrading will wipe my data.
Now I don't have a problem with downgrading, but I'd like to keep my data.
So I was wondering WHAT data will it wipe and how do I back-up?
I have titanium back-up installed but it needs root access, so that won't work.
I've copied all the files on my SD card to my laptop, to keep my images and stuff...
Is there a way to back-up other important files (if there are any?) before rooting?
Thanks in advance!
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Consider purchasing Titanium Backup. It just started letting you backup app data WITHOUT root using ADB. See: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...-adb-backups-without-root-other-improvements/. It will also very much come in handy once you are rooted.
bananagranola said:
Consider purchasing Titanium Backup. It just started letting you backup app data WITHOUT root using ADB. See: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...-adb-backups-without-root-other-improvements/. It will also very much come in handy once you are rooted.
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Only works for 4.0+
marsdta said:
Only works for 4.0+
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Ooh, good to know. I hadn't tried it; I just saw the bit about ADB backup.
Files and documents are stored on your SD, just copy that out.
What you do lose are all your apps, app data, accounts, desktop layout, etc. If you use a custom launcher (go, adw), then chances are the app supports backup. It's like having a factory reset, or like when you first got your phone. Nothing on it. the SD card isn't effected though. There's a small chance rooting will corrupt your SD card. You can always format it to make it working again, but you loose all your data.
I use a program called Android Commander. Allowing inter alia copies of APK's. So, I have created a folder on my SD with programs and then use a clean reinstall of the rom, added applications. So just lose data and accounts.
App manager pro, download it from play store, and backup all your app's
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Try to use MyBackup Pro or Safe Backup. But anyway, you should know, data loss while rooting is inevitably. For example, your settings for email accounts, desktop layout and other data, stored inside system memory will be lost. Using semi-backup application (without root) will save for you all important information (SMS, Calls log, Contacts and Applications). I think there's no problem with downgrading and losing system data. After rooting process and installing a custom rom you will be able to restore your settings by manual assignment - this is very easy
well, apart of having my devce 0x01, what could be a simple method to make a full phone backup without loosing dmg images, app data, apks, on my s8?
seems so strange that with many devs working on android, backup and restore is still such a pain
I usually use Helium to do backup of app data (some can't be done, but it gets most of them), then Samsung's own backup feature with samsung account to get SMS and some phone settings, and then I connect to a PC and use ADB to copy the entirety of /sdcard/ to get files (dmg images, etc).
This was my fear...app restore + helium
BTW so I should start to keep in mind all the stuff (and their location) on the memory...hoping to remember to save them manually before to wipe the phone...
SAD!!
I am completely new to rooting and, if I understand correctly, the process of rooting (specifically unlocking the boatloader) will wipe your apps and their data. What can I do, pre-root, to backup my app data? I have Google's backup on, but from what I can tell, it really doesn't do jack sneezle (I assume that's because Google doesn't require app developers to make their app data (settings, login, etc.) compliant with their backup system). Reinstalling the apps isn't a huge deal to me, but having to recustomize ALL my settings and login to everything again is a pain in the keister. Any suggestions? Is there any apps out there to facilitate this transition period? Let me know what you guys think. If possible, give multiple methods, and let me know which one you find the best. Thanks!
I don't know of any way to back up your apps and data without being rooted. I think you are just going to have to bite the bullet. You need root access before you can even access the folders that app data is stored in.
you havent unlocked the bootloader yet..
so probably no way to back up the data beforehand..
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you can use adb backup & restore commands to back up and restore, but im not sure if its possible to just restore the app data without overwrite the whole device..
Try Helium. Requires a PC.
There aren't many methods to backup on an unrooted phone.
Hi guys,
I need an advice on a backup program or app that allows me to full backup my device without root.
I would like to backup the image of the phone because I have to full wipe it.
Some tips?
Any kind of image backup (presumably with TWRP) only works with an unlocked bootloader....as you don't have root I assume you also have your bootloader locked.
What you can do is use a tool like Swift Backup (or the standard Google backup/restore mechanism) which will backup and restore some of the data on you phone including installed apps, but no app data itself. Many apps allow for export/import of their data, so this may be a solution - but requires a bit of footwork to go through all the apps and do export/import of data manually. For me this approach (using the standard Google/Android mechanism) has worked quite nicely the times I had a non-rooted phone.
You can try with ADB backup/restore (maybe with help of an app called Helium Backup that creates a UI for the commandline-interaction of the ADB commands), but you need to connect the phone to a PC for this to work. From my experience ADB backup is a little quirky, not always backing up and restoring all data depending on some unclear characteristics of the apps concerned (and on top many apps don't allow data backup via ADB at all!). For me reliability in the backup/restore mechanism is crucial, so I've quit using ADB backup at all
Thanks!!!