Nexus 7, rooted, back to OEM/Stock~~factory, prior to rooting, read all available documentation regarding backups, said everything was on Google "cloud".....now that I am OEM w/root, how do I get back everything I setup installed and configured for the last week?
guruuno said:
Nexus 7, rooted, back to OEM/Stock~~factory, prior to rooting, read all available documentation regarding backups, said everything was on Google "cloud".....now that I am OEM w/root, how do I get back everything I setup installed and configured for the last week?
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If I understand the process correctly - it saves settings regarding Google services. That is apps such as Currents, Play Store, Google Now, etc. It shouldn't backup things such as random app data (IE Angry Birds) - you'll need to use a third party app such as Titanium Backup or App2Zip. For a full system image of apps/settings you'll have to do a nandroid backup through a recovery program (IE ClockworkMod).
Hope that cleared things up a bit. You're gonna be SOL for most of your stuff for this time, but for next time just make sure to double and triple check everything because backups make the going-to-stock process so much nice
Mine did it as soon as I signed into my account on setup.
Some apps had to be installed again from My apps at Google play but the data also was there after they installed. I had some list and such from a notepad app and they were replaced with the app.
So then, the preferred application-procedure is?
James-NC said:
Mine did it as soon as I signed into my account on setup.
Some apps had to be installed again from My apps at Google play but the data also was there after they installed. I had some list and such from a notepad app and they were replaced with the app.
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So then, to be clear, to have a similar procedure, like iPad/iPhone syncing, there is nothing "built in", and 3rd party applications need to be purchased or obtained free.......so what is the clear winner (easiest, best, most preferred)?
So which process?
guruuno said:
So then, to be clear, to have a similar procedure, like iPad/iPhone syncing, there is nothing "built in", and 3rd party applications need to be purchased or obtained free.......so what is the clear winner (easiest, best, most preferred)?
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Maybe not clear. I already did my N7 and was lost. Wife has hers all tweaked, wants me to root. I just want to restore exactly like an iPad so nothing is lost. Preferred method being search foe. Would like advice.
guruuno said:
So then, to be clear, to have a similar procedure, like iPad/iPhone syncing, there is nothing "built in", and 3rd party applications need to be purchased or obtained free.......so what is the clear winner (easiest, best, most preferred)?
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Google Play can redownload the apps you previously got from them. It will also sync certain (but probably not all) settings, wifi passwords, etc. However, the process of downloading takes around 30-60m and usually app data is not part of this sync.
This, I prefer to use titanium backup to backup all user apps and data (as a rule of thumb, you generally don't want to do the same for system apps/data). The backup is stored on your sd card (so, for example, after wiping data you can restore all your apps within around 15m, asynchronously) and you can also have it backed up to the cloud. Tit backup requires root and the pro version costs around $7.
You can use it to backup system data (your settings and all that) but this is a bad idea when you use custom roms. I usually restore my apps and set the rest manually, the whole process takes around 20m.
I don't know how well itunes backs up app data, so I can't answer the comparison question.
Unlocking is what wipes the data, not rooting. You are already past the point of no return as the restore info you get back from google does not deal with a lot of app data. You could have before unlocking, done a process which would have saved it, but it is not a normal process and certainly not automatic.
you are past that however already.
Now you are rooted, you can use Titanium Backup to do a real backup and you can also do a nandroid backup using Recovery so you don't have to deal with this in the future.
HOWEVER, just doing those backups doesn't guarrantee you can access them if your device is lost/stolen or damage beyond repair. So you need to come up with a method to copy those backup files occasionally to workstation off from time to time so, you have something to restore.
Then if you have to setup a new device, you can unlock, root, load TB, copy the backup files to the device and then restore the system back to where it was when you did the last backup.
guruuno said:
Maybe not clear. I already did my N7 and was lost. Wife has hers all tweaked, wants me to root. I just want to restore exactly like an iPad so nothing is lost. Preferred method being search foe. Would like advice.
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You need root (and an app like Titanium Backup) to back up your app data, and you need to have an unlocked bootloader to root. If you didn't already unlock the bootloader on the Nexus 7, then there's nothing you can do to back up all your app data because unlocking the bootloader essentially resets the device. Without a backup program, the most you can do is sync your device with Google Play and have it reinstall your missing apps after you wipe your device (but it won't restore your app data).
But......
AZImmortal said:
You need root (and an app like Titanium Backup) to back up your app data, and you need to have an unlocked bootloader to root. If you didn't already unlock the bootloader on the Nexus 7, then there's nothing you can do to back up all your app data because unlocking the bootloader essentially resets the device. Without a backup program, the most you can do is sync your device with Google Play and have it reinstall your missing apps after you wipe your device (but it won't restore your app data).
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But I did "root", and I did lose all my data, like it was OEM out of the box, but rooted....
Unlocking? Why would I 'unlock'? If I only want to use USB memory stick isn't rooting all I want?
Therefore, I'd get which program to root only to preserve everything.
The confusing part is "You need root (and an app like Titanium Backup) to back up your app data"
How can I have Titanium if I don't root, and if I root, I lose everything?
(or did I maybe also unlock mine..... I'm really confused, all I want is a 1-2-3 root app to install the Stick Mount. Period)
Thanks again for the replies, I'm hopefully getting this Android stuff
guruuno said:
Unlocking? Why would I 'unlock'? If I only want to use USB memory stick isn't rooting all I want?
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You need to unlock in order to root (though you can relock it after if you want, I wouldn't recommend it in case you need to do so again) and flash stuff.
If you didn't relock it from earlier (i.e. if you still have that "unlocked" symbol on boot), you'll be able to root again just by flashing the superuser program.
guruuno said:
The confusing part is "You need root (and an app like Titanium Backup) to back up your app data"
How can I have Titanium if I don't root, and if I root unlock, I lose everything?
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Wug's root toolkit has a backup/restore option.
In general, however, the answer is yes. You are not able to (at least without expertise) backup data from prior to your first unlock. That's why it's recommended to unlock your device asap if you decide to do so.
(The OEMs wipe everything upon unlock for security reasons - the only way to get around this is to use an exploit rather than the "fastboot oem unlock" command, but the discovery of such exploits is unpredictable.)
OK, here I go
thebobp said:
You need to unlock in order to root (though you can relock it after if you want, I wouldn't recommend it in case you need to do so again) and flash stuff.
If you didn't relock it from earlier (i.e. if you still have that "unlocked" symbol on boot), you'll be able to root again just by flashing the superuser program.
Wug's root toolkit has a backup/restore option.
In general, however, the answer is yes. You are not able to (at least without expertise) backup data from prior to your first unlock. That's why it's recommended to unlock your device asap if you decide to do so.
(The OEMs wipe everything upon unlock for security reasons - the only way to get around this is to use an exploit rather than the "fastboot oem unlock" command, but the discovery of such exploits is unpredictable.)
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Thanks for the attention to detail, I appreciate it.
I just install cm10 and I noticed that the settings such as wifi passwords etc have not been restored. Any ideas on how to restore them? I'd post on their thread but they don't have one for the N7 and I still don't have the privileges.
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Hi,
I currently own an HTC Hero, and will most likely be getting an HTC Desire HD.
Now, I have almost 150 apps on my Hero, and I really dread the hassle of re-installing and setting up everything to my liking. It has taken me almost a year to set this up the way I want it.
Would it be possible, using Titanium Backup, to make a backup of EVERYTHING possible on the Hero, and then switch the memorycard to the Desire HD and restore it there, maybe without the app settings? I am thinking that this could be a problem because of the different specs, but I do not know too much under-the-hood-stuff regarding Android.
I am hoping to not have to go through the market for that many downloads.
Any thoughts on this?
Kingkeld.
Market apps will automatically re-install when you sign in into your new phone. For the rest there is Titanium backup
I planned on doing the same, but doesn't Titanium require root?
I can't remember what it's like to not have root, the thought is scary
Try Android commander for the PC, Plug in your hero, goto application manager, select all the apps and click backup, then when you get your new phone selsct all the backed up apps and click install Hope it helps
christonabike said:
I planned on doing the same, but doesn't Titanium require root?
I can't remember what it's like to not have root, the thought is scary
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It does need root that is correct but I'm sure, as stated there are other ways to backup apps. I'm not sure about if you have your apps on ext partition though. I wager root wont take long and then comes recovery roms and then customs... mmm custom
Thank you for the replys. I can not sleep.
Now we just need a root confirmation. Yes, the thought of owning an unrooted phone is scary. Not sure what to think of it. I hope it will not last long.
All I ask is root. I can wait for the custom ROMs. There will be plenty to play with.
You just need to pick your apps from /data/data, copy them over with adb, and do a fix_permissions
See?
OR chmod by hand
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I used Titanium to migrate my app settings from Milestone to Nexus One, but they're on similar versions of Android and both are HDPI devices.
I can tell you that Market apps don't always reinstall automatically if you're going from one phone to another. In any case I suggest a fresh market install of your most important apps, and then restore their data by Titanium if necessary. If this causes a crash, wipe their data again. Less important apps, could just try restoring them directly. Run Titanium's Market Doctor when that's done.
I also suggest using apps like BookmarkSB, SMS Backup Restore, Call Log Backup Restore, etc to transfer those records. May work better than trying to Titanium restore data across different OS versions, and doesn't require root. Good luck! Let us know how it goes.
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Im using Titainiam backup (free version), is there anyway to back up all apps/SMS/contacts/other data with just 1 click? From what I can find you have to select each 1 seperatly?
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About...3 clicks. Menu -> Batch and from there select the one that fits your needs the best.
Quick question re Titanium Backup.... It says it needs "ROOT", does this mean it will not work with a non-rooted system??
I'm using the standard Orange, non-messed with Android (which I'm quite happy with), can I still use Titanium Backup?
you need root access...
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you need root access...
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Ok, so could anyone recommend a backup for apps/data (with the hopefully upcoming Gingerbread update in mind), that doesn't need root?
Riceburner said:
Ok, so could anyone recommend a backup for apps/data (with the hopefully upcoming Gingerbread update in mind), that doesn't need root?
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You can try Mybackup Pro
The problem with non-root backups is they can't backup everything.
If you don't want to root, then you will probably not be able to backup your apps+data.
Hello, sprite backup ( latest version compatible with Gingerbreak ) save and restore contacts,calendar ... even if you have an unrooted phone ( mine is unrooted and i've restored contacts successfully ) .
shaithis said:
The problem with non-root backups is they can't backup everything.
If you don't want to root, then you will probably not be able to backup your apps+data.
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Do you what they won't backup?
TBH, Data I'm not so worried about (everything is backed up to the google account online anyway), it's the apps that I've downloaded and paid for that I don't want to lose.
GoSMS Pro will do this for you. I mnow it is a whole seperate SMS app, but it is a guaranteed way for it to work, and doesn't take long. And you might find you like it for SMS anyway
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i have a problem here that its stuck in root require and nothing happening my phone is rooted and all the apps working well.
Hi Riceburner
Riceburner said:
Do you what they won't backup?
TBH, Data I'm not so worried about (everything is backed up to the google account online anyway), it's the apps that I've downloaded and paid for that I don't want to lose.
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You [will] would not lose anything, they are always available for re-download on the Market or the AppBrain Android Market, unless you use their remove option to remove them from either of your lists of Apps.
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Hi zizu66
zizu66 said:
i have a problem here that its stuck in root require and nothing happening my phone is rooted and all the apps working well.
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What is stuck in root?
When ever a App tries to gain Root Access for the first time Superuser will appear on your screen and Ask if you what to give the App Root Permission or not, and whether to remember the permissions that are given [the default is remember].
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I'm TheQuest said:
Hi Riceburner
You [will] would not lose anything, they are always available for re-download on the Market or the AppBrain Android Market, unless you use their remove option to remove them from either of your lists of Apps.
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True.
ok, cheers.
Mind you - it's all academic anyway because I have no idea when (or even if) I'll be getting the update. Still seem to be stuck on 1.84.61.2 (as far as I can see). Orange aren't known for their speed on software upgrades.
I'm TheQuest said:
Hi Riceburner
You [will] would not lose anything, they are always available for re-download on the Market or the AppBrain Android Market, unless you use their remove option to remove them from either of your lists of Apps.
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TheQuest
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You sure about that? I am sure google only keeps a copy (id) of what you have downloaded, but not the data within the app. So for example you bought a game, google will know you have bought the game so you can download it, but the data on the game will be lost, i.e. high scores etc...
And also, what about data from apps that you have not use a store, i.e. you used an installer to install it, the data will be lost for that app.
MyBackup Pro is good, but it can't backup the data within the apps (unroot) and that is the problem because of google security.
yes i know that but the superuser app dont appear for me i dont know why?and its just for this app.all other apps appear for me and there is no problem.when i start the app its i get trying to gain root access and the superuser app dont appear???
so this is a no go then
Hi springy
springy said:
You sure about that? I am sure google only keeps a copy (id) of what you have downloaded, but not the data within the app. So for example you bought a game, google will know you have bought the game so you can download it, but the data on the game will be lost, i.e. high scores etc...
And also, what about data from apps that you have not use a store, i.e. you used an installer to install it, the data will be lost for that app.
MyBackup Pro is good, but it can't backup the data within the apps (unroot) and that is the problem because of google security.
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Yes I am sure of what I wrote, I did not say anything about data being stored.
I do not know about what MyBackUp can and can not do.
Titanium BackUp can back up all Apps and Data. [data can not be restore to a different Rom though]
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Hi zizu66
zizu66 said:
yes i know that but the superuser app dont appear for me i dont know why?and its just for this app.all other apps appear for me and there is no problem.when i start the app its i get trying to gain root access and the superuser app dont appear???
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Do you a CWM installed, if so you could try booting in to recovery, and use the fix permissions to see if it helps to clear the problem with SU.
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Hi jaggysnake
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so this is a no go then
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Are you talking to yourself?
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My buddy and I are about to start experementing with custom roms on his Droid X. He accepted the update, and I read how to aquire root using a specific sbf [I have it written down] but I don't want to start till we have a backup of his aps. With Cwm or titanium I don't know how to do this.
Can someone give some advice?
Well, if you have cwm, then you can use the "Nandroid" function to make a complete backup of everything on your device (though there may be some exceptions, you should read up on those). If you are rooted right now, then Titanium Backup would backup all your apps+appdata to a specified location (again, read up on exceptions to those).
I would recommend doing both, just to be extra careful, in case something goes really wrong. And again, do as much research as you can.
Edit: If you have none of those, you should use apps like ASTRO, to back up your apps, though the appdata may or may not be backed up with it.
Hope that helps.
yosterwp said:
Well, if you have cwm, then you can use the "Nandroid" function to make a complete backup of everything on your device (though there may be some exceptions, you should read up on those). If you are rooted right now, then Titanium Backup would backup all your apps+appdata to a specified location (again, read up on exceptions to those).
I would recommend doing both, just to be extra careful, in case something goes really wrong. And again, do as much research as you can.
Edit: If you have none of those, you should use apps like ASTRO, to back up your apps, though the appdata may or may not be backed up with it.
Hope that helps.
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I know how to do nandroid backups and I'm very familiar with titanium backup on OTHER devices. Both of those require root. [last I checked]
My understanding is that to root the droid x meaning using fastboot files, which as I understand, will erase your device.
The_Joe said:
I know how to do nandroid backups and I'm very familiar with titanium backup on OTHER devices. Both of those require root. [last I checked]
My understanding is that to root the droid x meaning using fastboot files, which as I understand, will erase your device.
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Unfortunately, rooting the device will wipe everything, as you have to flash a whole other rootable firmware.
Search the market for a non root backup app. Any one will do, I recommend trying MyBackup.
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So i was wondering if anyone has ever needed to back up all there apps to a location other then there phone/tablet. it would be cloud storage i would think. reason is i need to backup all my apps and have then to be restored apon receiving replacement nexus. I herd sandisk memory zone? thanks.
MyBackup Pro has an option to backup to online storage and restore. I'm not sure if the free version has that option but I know the paid version does.
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I use the following process to ensure I can restore my whole device to a brand new unit if necessary.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29550640
I use my workstation rather than a Cloud for a Number of reasons. The best being that the workstation has a triple redundant backup, and if I really need access to it remotely I already have that ability.
I used this to create a restorable copy of a completely setup device to a brand new unit successfully already.
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I create the same functionality with Dropsync. It basically lets Dropbox function the same on your tab as your computer. I run my backups with TiBu in the early morning, and although syncing can be slow, it easily finishes before I get up. I was already using Dropbox so this was the most convenient solution for me.
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I forgot to mention that i would like an option to do an entire backup without having to root first. From my understanding rooting it would wipe user data? so then there would be no point lol
Sofwhitewolf said:
I forgot to mention that i would like an option to do an entire backup without having to root first. From my understanding rooting it would wipe user data? so then there would be no point lol
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Rooting doesn't wipe the data, Unlocking the Bootloader does. Why unlocking should be done before doing a lot of work.
You can use adb to do a backup of your system, but none of the other things I talked about will work. No point in moving it to a cyberlocker since it will already be on your computer/workstation.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420351
spottedcatfish said:
I create the same functionality with Dropsync. It basically lets Dropbox function the same on your tab as your computer. I run my backups with TiBu in the early morning, and although syncing can be slow, it easily finishes before I get up. I was already using Dropbox so this was the most convenient solution for me.
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While TB is something that I do and end up with a copy in my backup system, it is not what I use to restore to a new device. Instead I use the Nandroid Backup (created with TWRP). Much much faster and more complete. Only need to move over the Nandroid backup files after you have unlocked the new device and rooted, and put the recovery on the device. Then simply do a restore in recovery wipe Davik and Cache and you are right back where you were with the other device.
The sync to the workstation via the Cheetah Sync is much faster than syncing to dropbox and I am backing up more than just the TB files for a more useful backup.
Sofwhitewolf said:
So i was wondering if anyone has ever needed to back up all there apps to a location other then there phone/tablet. it would be cloud storage i would think. reason is i need to backup all my apps and have then to be restored apon receiving replacement nexus. I herd sandisk memory zone? thanks.
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TitaniumBackup+ has support for backing up to Dropbox, Box, and Google Drive.
I use App Backup & Restore to backup every app I install (automatically), then Dropspace to push it to my Dropbox (automatically). Then I relax with a cappuccino and carrot cake.
I am completely new to rooting and, if I understand correctly, the process of rooting (specifically unlocking the boatloader) will wipe your apps and their data. What can I do, pre-root, to backup my app data? I have Google's backup on, but from what I can tell, it really doesn't do jack sneezle (I assume that's because Google doesn't require app developers to make their app data (settings, login, etc.) compliant with their backup system). Reinstalling the apps isn't a huge deal to me, but having to recustomize ALL my settings and login to everything again is a pain in the keister. Any suggestions? Is there any apps out there to facilitate this transition period? Let me know what you guys think. If possible, give multiple methods, and let me know which one you find the best. Thanks!
I don't know of any way to back up your apps and data without being rooted. I think you are just going to have to bite the bullet. You need root access before you can even access the folders that app data is stored in.
you havent unlocked the bootloader yet..
so probably no way to back up the data beforehand..
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you can use adb backup & restore commands to back up and restore, but im not sure if its possible to just restore the app data without overwrite the whole device..
Try Helium. Requires a PC.
There aren't many methods to backup on an unrooted phone.