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[Q] A Quick Question

Im not sure where to find the answer to this.
I work in a Verizon Wireless store and a young kid came in and asked me a few questions about his new Droid X. After answering them he says thanks and hands me a perfectly good Mytouch 4G and asks me if he can donate it. I do the right thing and tell him that it's worth some good money and he should put it on Ebay. He says he doesn't know how to do all that Ebay stuff, and that if i do, I can have the phone. I have tried looking up the IMEI on the stolen list and it says that it is not reported stolen. If I sell it on Ebay, and it turns out to be stolen, How can they find out, and what can I do to prevent this from blowing up in my face? any help would be greatly appreciated.

Call T-Mobile tell them a friend gave you a mytouch 4g and you are interested in activating it but do not know if it tied to somebodies account or possibly stolen. I have done it before. I also work for verizon. I have received an evo, nexus one, x10, and a few arias.
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Sounds like a good plan, I'll try that in the AM. Thanks

Lol can't believe that, if I were a kid I'd craigslist it I know i was always starved for cash when I was not just givin' away $400 phones...kids these days

Bad ESN on my Nexus 4?

I've had my Nexus 4 for about a month now. Regrettably, I had bought the device on CraigsList out of sheer desperation. I've been using the phone on T-Mobile via prepaid for the month and its been working great. As of this morning though I had no service. I called T-Mobile to find out that my Nexus 4 had been blacklisted. They didn't give me a reason, just that its been blacklisted. How could this have happened, and is there any way to fix this?
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Carriers will do that if its reported stolen. Not saying it is.
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You bought it from a scammer that bought the phone with his CC and then sold it to you, then charged back...
So he pockets your $400 or w.e u paid.
If I were you I'd call the police and notify them.

I think the only way is to move your phone service to AT&T prepaid or buy another one (currently available through play store). The scammer probably bought the phone through Tmobile with EIP and stopped paying for it.

Why don't you just use another carrier, that's your only choice, since the phone is unlocked you don't have to use it on any particular carrier, big deal if the guy scammed you

asasione said:
Why don't you just use another carrier, that's your only choice, since the phone is unlocked you don't have to use it on any particular carrier, big deal if the guy scammed you
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If the IMEI is blocked it won't work on any network

You have proof that you bought it from the seller? You have his Google play receipt or anything?
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I caught on to a similar scam yesterday morning. I always ask craigslist dealers for pictures and proof of purchase

Michealtbh said:
If the IMEI is blocked it won't work on any network
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Not in the US, although apparently that is changing.

It is probably blocked from at&t and T-Mobile. But straight talk and the like should still work, let us know if it does.
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Also try calling Google and asking if you can trade it for a non stolen phone or if they can in blacklist it. It isn't your fault it was stolen
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Rusty! said:
Not in the US, although apparently that is changing.
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Actually it should already be changed and all US carriers should now block a stolen IMEI. Engadget reported on this back in April of 2012.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/09/us-carriers-agree-to-build-stolen-phone-database-and-blacklist/

kzoodroid said:
Actually it should already be changed and all US carriers should now block a stolen IMEI. Engadget reported on this back in April of 2012.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/09/us-carriers-agree-to-build-stolen-phone-database-and-blacklist/
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I just wanna ask. If the phone is blacklisted in US does that mean than in EU it wouldn't work either on different carrier ?
Thank you

It'd work fine outside the US

$325- Google Nexus 4 16GB Brand New?!? Google disabled phone?? Help??

Hello fellow forums users. After getting a bad screen nexus 4, and later selling it. I decided to give the Nexus 4 another chance. I just found a great deal on Ebay for a nexus 4 16GB from a seller that has 64 100% positive feedback. But... there seems to be an issue with the phones imei, the seller says that google disabled the phones. I tried looking on google on anything on the matter but I came up short. Here is a copy of the items description on Ebay... What do you think? is there any way that Google can DISABLE phones like that?? ive never heard of that before with unlocked cell phones.... any help would be greatly apreciated.
Original Ebay item description:
The listing is for BAD ESN Nexus 4 16GB BRAND NEW SEALED IN BOX. I ordered it straight from Google and the package went missing. Google gave me refund right away but the package arrived a few weeks later. I did not want the phones so i wanted to send it back to Google but I was told to keep them since they are disabled anyway. I am thinking the phone is disabled by BAD ESN or IMEI. The phone is still sealed in box and never been opened. I am selling these phones AS IS. ALL SALE IS FINAL and NO RETURN WILL BE ACCEPTED. SHIPPING WORLDWIDE

Yes Google can disable the phone remotely. That phone will not turn on. Spend the extra 25 dollars and buy it from Google play store.

neotekz said:
Yes Google can disable the phone remotely. That phone will not turn on. Spend the extra 25 dollars and buy it from Google play store.
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Well you learn something new everyday. I didnt even think that was possible! Thanks!

I don`t know what you`re up to for sure but these kind of threads are not allowed. If you are a potential buyer DO NOT BUY THIS PHONE, if you`re fencing hot phones GTFO.

ferrojasaguilar said:
Hello fellow forums users. After getting a bad screen nexus 4, and later selling it. I decided to give the Nexus 4 another chance. I just found a great deal on Ebay for a nexus 4 16GB from a seller that has 64 100% positive feedback. But... there seems to be an issue with the phones imei, the seller says that google disabled the phones. I tried looking on google on anything on the matter but I came up short. Here is a copy of the items description on Ebay... What do you think? is there any way that Google can DISABLE phones like that?? ive never heard of that before with unlocked cell phones.... any help would be greatly apreciated.
Original Ebay item description:
The listing is for BAD ESN Nexus 4 16GB BRAND NEW SEALED IN BOX. I ordered it straight from Google and the package went missing. Google gave me refund right away but the package arrived a few weeks later. I did not want the phones so i wanted to send it back to Google but I was told to keep them since they are disabled anyway. I am thinking the phone is disabled by BAD ESN or IMEI. The phone is still sealed in box and never been opened. I am selling these phones AS IS. ALL SALE IS FINAL and NO RETURN WILL BE ACCEPTED. SHIPPING WORLDWIDE
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If you buy phone from playstore. They can remotely disable everything. Nexus 4,7,10. As long as you bought it from playstore, don't worry. they
can disable the device in just one second. I would suggest you don't buy it unless google willing to activate the phone. I doubt it.

gee2012 said:
I don`t know what you`re up to for sure but these kind of threads are not allowed. If you are a potential buyer DO NOT BUY THIS PHONE, if you`re fencing hot phones GTFO.
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Hey chill, im not fencing anything. I found the listing on Ebay and since ive never heard of remote disabling I came here to ask as I dont want to throw my $325- away.

Yes Google can disable it and no there is no way anyone can enable it. Its worthless paying that much money. I would suggest to pay a little extra and buy it from Google.

sounds like a tmobile nexus 4 phone ans the account or line is past due or they stopped paying the bill making the phone listed under tmobile as blocked/bad imei
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gee2012 said:
I don`t know what you`re up to for sure but these kind of threads are not allowed. If you are a potential buyer DO NOT BUY THIS PHONE, if you`re fencing hot phones GTFO.
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Did you even read his post. He's not selling anything let alone a stolen phone. He was simply looking for information on a disabled phone. Why don't you GTFO.
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Thanks for your help, i was looking into the matter and all I could find where apps that let you remotely wipe your personal information on the device, but not actually BRICKING it. I went to google's play homepage, and in the returns/refund section I read that when you ask for a replacement phone, the remotely DISABLE the phone buts thats what I dont get. How do they do that? How does that work? will the phone not power on at all? do they block the imei number worldwide? any ideas?

ferrojasaguilar said:
Thanks for your help, i was looking into the matter and all I could find where apps that let you remotely wipe your personal information on the device, but not actually BRICKING it. I went to google's play homepage, and in the returns/refund section I read that when you ask for a replacement phone, the remotely DISABLE the phone buts thats what I dont get. How do they do that? How does that work? will the phone not power on at all? do they block the imei number worldwide? any ideas?
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Google has a well known back door into phones and they can pretty much do as they please but have limited their efforts so far to just removing malicious apps from peoples phones.
I would stay away from this phone for if the IMEI is blacklisted as stolen, which is pretty much a worldwide blacklist now, then it cannot be recovered as no carrier anywhere will activate it.

They won't remotely brick it... They'll just have the IMEI blacklisted. It will likely turn on, you just can't activate it anywhere.
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joshnichols189 said:
They won't remotely brick it... They'll just have the IMEI blacklisted. It will likely turn on, you just can't activate it anywhere.
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they do brick it, when you turn it on you will get the red led and nothing else.

neotekz said:
they do brick it, when you turn it on you will get the red led and nothing else.
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I guess the question is whether that's Google bricking it or whether it's just a defective phone. I'd venture to say that it's a bad phone. If Google disables your phone, it's by adding your IMEI as stolen.

Bad Imei Nexus 4

I bought a phone from craigalist. The seller mentioned that it was Tmobile nexus 4 but now bad imei. I bought it knowing it was bad on tmobile. But it doesn't even work with att sim as well. Are they now sharing black listed phone among each other. Anyway I bought it for international use but just wondering if something else might not be wrong besides being bad imei on network. Thanks
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is it bad imei, or no imei?

I was told bad because I can see the imei. In system setting
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theghazi said:
I was told bad because I can see the imei. In system setting
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have you tried it in tmo? and, did you manually input the right apn for att into the phone(it needs the att apn, its not included in the default setup. tmos apn is included). and yea, they sometimes share blacklisted imei.

simms22 said:
have you tried it in tmo? and, did you manually input the right apn for att into the phone(it needs the att apn, its not included in the default setup. tmos apn is included). and yea, they sometimes share blacklisted imei.
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If I put Tmobile sim. It comes as Tmobile APN automatically. And when I put att sim. It comes as att automatically. But I though APN was just for data. I have no bars and not connected to network. I don't want to send phone international and that thing is got something else wrong.
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If the phone is blacklisted by TMo it won't work on any network in the US as they started sharing blacklisted IMEI's to a central database in 2012.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1591672
http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/09/us-carriers-agree-to-build-stolen-phone-database-and-blacklist/

You know, it sounds like you bought stolen goods. Are you sure that is a good idea to keep using it?
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snapper.fishes said:
You know, it sounds like you bought stolen goods. Are you sure that is a good idea to keep using it?
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Stolen goods ? How did you come to that conclusion. ? I asked the seller and he said he broke the contract with t-mobile plus it seems like it can't be used in USA
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theghazi said:
Stolen goods ? How did you come to that conclusion. ? I asked the seller and he said he broke the contract with t-mobile plus it seems like it can't be used in USA
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breaking the contract with tmobile wont get your imei banned.

theghazi said:
Stolen goods ? How did you come to that conclusion. ? I asked the seller and he said he broke the contract with t-mobile plus it seems like it can't be used in USA
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Only way to get a blocked imei is not paying T-Mobile for the phone or it was reported stolen. So technically it's a stolen phone ethics 101
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So what if it's stolen. What's he going to do? Return it? Bahaha, yeah right.
Did you buy the phone hoping you can use it in another network? If so, that was a bad decision on your part. :good:

ismethajametovic said:
So what if it's stolen. What's he going to do? Return it? Bahaha, yeah right.
Did you buy the phone hoping you can use it in another network? If so, that was a bad decision on your part. :good:
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I don't know what the laws are in the US, but in most countries if you try to sell a stolen object knowing that it was stolen from its rightful owner, it's a criminal offence even if you paid for it. So OP will never be able to sell his phone. Secondly, if the police ever do show up, OP will have to hand the phone over without receiving any sort of compensation.
Since the description didn't mention the phone being stolen, can't OP request a refund for the phone from his credit card company (or whatever payment method he used)?
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snapper.fishes said:
I don't know what the laws are in the US, but in most countries if you try to sell a stolen object knowing that it was stolen from its rightful owner, it's a criminal offence even if you paid for it. So OP will never be able to sell his phone. Secondly, if the police ever do show up, OP will have to hand the phone over without receiving any sort of compensation.
Since the description didn't mention the phone being stolen, can't OP request a refund for the phone from his credit card company (or whatever payment method he used)?
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I've never met anyone on Craigslist who took credit cards. The phone could have been reported lost or stolen to TMo which would then put it on the blacklist. But also I could see where that if you stopped paying your TMo bill before the end of your contract, which the handset is a part of as its subsidized, TMo would blacklist it as in effect it is now a stolen phone.

[Q] Got stuck with a blacklisted S7 Edge.. help please!

Ok so I didn't read up on the T-Mobile s7 edge or I may not have opted to buy it due to be screwed over many times on different websites and getting blacklisted eip phones but usually I use <REMOVED> well I went and bought the s7edge the other day and unlocked it used it with straighttalk come find out straighttalk blacklist my sim and now my phone is pretty much useless... Is there anyway around the imei blacklist on the s7edge I seen a website called <REMOVED>. But I don't know about them as I have only used <REMOVED> and the fact they say no root or imei change require has me a lil iffy .. Any help is greatly appreciated.

Dewaynelives said:
Ok so I didn't read up on the T-Mobile s7 edge or I may not have opted to buy it due to be screwed over many times on different websites and getting blacklisted eip phones but usually I use <REMOVED> well I went and bought the s7edge the other day and unlocked it used it with straighttalk come find out straighttalk blacklist my sim and now my phone is pretty much useless... Is there anyway around the imei blacklist on the s7edge I seen a website called <REMOVED>. But I don't know about them as I have only used <REMOVED> and the fact they say no root or imei change require has me a lil iffy .. Any help is greatly appreciated.
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Sounds fishy. At best it's someone on the inside with control over "the list" and at worse it's a scam.

Binary100100 said:
Sounds fishy. At best it's someone on the inside with control over "the list" and at worse it's a scam.
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What I was thinking also I don't know what to do

CC charge back or PayPal SNAD claim
Dewaynelives said:
Ok so I didn't read up on the T-Mobile s7 edge or I may not have opted to buy it due to be screwed over many times on different websites and getting blacklisted eip phones but usually I use <REMOVED> well I went and bought the s7edge the other day and unlocked it used it with straighttalk come find out straighttalk blacklist my sim and now my phone is pretty much useless... Is there anyway around the imei blacklist on the s7edge I seen a website called <REMOVED>. But I don't know about them as I have only used <REMOVED> and the fact they say no root or imei change require has me a lil iffy .. Any help is greatly appreciated.
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CC charge back or PayPal SNAD claim
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??? What

What site did you get it from? The phone may have been leased and maybe its unlockable for another network while under lease

Damn bro why not file a claim? And why did the phone become blacklisted?
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dldennis88 said:
What site did you get it from? The phone may have been leased and maybe its unlockable for another network while under lease
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eBay it's financed but T-Mobile said they couldn't allow me to pay it off ... I have bought other phones and just changed the imei tha was financed i.

PHP:
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What site did you get it from? The phone may have been leased and maybe its unlockable for another network while under lease
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I'd really just rather unlock it I paid 400 for it so it is what is. Ya know lol I'm just pissed I thought I'd be able to change the imei like I have done many other times with financed devices the seller didn't post it was blacklisted they said they just changed networks ... I had it happen one time and I sent the phone back for the refunds and I lost refund and money then one time I filed a paypal claim on chargeback and lost all my money

Dewaynelives said:
PHP:
I'd really just rather unlock it I paid 400 for it so it is what is. Ya know lol I'm just pissed I thought I'd be able to change the imei like I have done many other times with financed devices the seller didn't post it was blacklisted they said they just changed networks ... I had it happen one time and I sent the phone back for the refunds and I lost refund and money then one time I filed a paypal claim on chargeback and lost all my money
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Bro, I would of learned my lesson the FIRST time this happened to me. I don't even buy phones on Craigslist no more unless they are willing to meet up at the store to confirm it is paid off. I've read so many stories like this. And really you should of known better. An s7 edge for $400? Thats an instant red mark.
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nano303 said:
Bro, I would of learned my lesson the FIRST time this happened to me. I don't even buy phones on Craigslist no more unless they are willing to meet up at the store to confirm it is paid off. I've read so many stories like this. And really you should of known better. An s7 edge for $400? Thats an instant red mark.
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Thing is you can change imei on blacklisted note5 and so on but yeah I just learnt my lesson these new one in selling this one I'll get my money back and I'm get a note 5

Dewaynelives said:
Thing is you can change imei on blacklisted note5 and so on but yeah I just learnt my lesson these new one in selling this one I'll get my money back and I'm get a note 5
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I've never heard of successfully connecting a blacklisted device Anywhere. I've heard people only get calls and text but no data. The IMEI is what makes you phone. IT. Without it the phone doesn't exist. It's like loosing EFS
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nano303 said:
I've never heard of successfully connecting a blacklisted device Anywhere. I've heard people only get calls and text but no data. The IMEI is what makes you phone. IT. Without it the phone doesn't exist. It's like loosing EFS
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Done it many times imeifix.com
They change the imei over the Internet using different tools they mod the ends and write it

Dewaynelives said:
Done it many times imeifix.com
They change the imei over the Internet using different tools they mod the ends and write it
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Cool, you learn something new every day lol
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nano303 said:
Cool, you learn something new every day lol
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Yeah man they are great I had a problem one time and they refunded me the money immediately but I have used them like 15 times only had a problem one time cause I accidentally deleted my backup but the refunded me my money even tho it was my fault and fix my phone

Dewaynelives said:
Yeah man they are great I had a problem one time and they refunded me the money immediately but I have used them like 15 times only had a problem one time cause I accidentally deleted my backup but the refunded me my money even tho it was my fault and fix my phone
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Ahhh ok I see. Can't really justify if it failed one out of 15 times lol.
Hopefully you get this fixed man good luck to you. And please. Always stop and think. Look ahead and to the past, you'll be more aware next time[emoji14]
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nano303 said:
Cool, you learn something new every day lol
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nano303 said:
Ahhh ok I see. Can't really justify if it failed one out of 15 times lol.
Hopefully you get this fixed man good luck to you. And please. Always stop and think. Look ahead and to the past, you'll be more aware next time[emoji14]
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Lol imeifix is highly recommended on here so I gave it a shot and yeah buddy I surely will be doing some research from now on

Dewaynelives said:
Lol imeifix is highly recommended on here so I gave it a shot and yeah buddy I surely will be doing some research from now on
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I've had people do me dirtyy. Even my own family members. But guess what? It didn't go good for them, yet I still help them out lol... Karma is a B and that dude who sold you the phone will get what's coming to him. What sucks is having to go through all this.
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nano303 said:
I've had people do me dirtyy. Even my own family members. But guess what? It didn't go good for them, yet I still help them out lol... Karma is a B and that dude who sold you the phone will get what's coming to him. What sucks is having to go through all this.
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Yeah brother your telling me I ain't rich you know but I try to go through life as lessons learned cause in the end it is my fault I reported it T-Mobile but they ain't gonna do nothing they said the account owed 6k

Dewaynelives said:
Yeah brother your telling me I ain't rich you know but I try to go through life as lessons learned cause in the end it is my fault I reported it T-Mobile but they ain't gonna do nothing they said the account owed 6k
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Jesús, sounds like someone with good credit just screwed up for the rest of there are! 6K in dept is phewww ??? everyone has dept.. I'm glad I don't have no student loans or crap [emoji2] + I'm smart with money I make less than anyone in my job, yet I'm the one that it shows I make more lol. It's all about how you are with money, if you've went through depression and anxiety. It helps your mind. completely off topic lol
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