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Hi all,
Now im generally not a fan of people posting 'hate' threads, but this phone has dissapointed me so much that i feel it necessary to point out why i turned to hate it and why im selling it and getting the Galaxy SII in order to help people that are thinking of buying this phone to make an advised decision.
1. It constantly lags, and almost every app force closes (and YES i have reset the phone and used both .181 and .145 versions of the firmware.
2. When the phone starts syncing accounts in the background it renders it unusable. The phone takes up to 5 minutes to load the Facebook app and longer for anything else.
3. Sony Ericsson's stupid decision to reverse the ground and mic wires so you cant use any other wired headphones with an inline control but the ones it came with. As discussed in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045973&page=1
4. The camera takes too long to open.
5. The USB socket is on the side at the top so you have to have a landscape dock which takes up more room (obviously only applies to people that use a dock with their phones).
6. The USB/Power lead that comes with it is angled up instead of down which i find just gets in the way.
7. The headphone jack is on the side (ok this is not a major issue but is annoying when getting it in and out of your pocket when you have headphones in.
8. The headphones that come with it only have a play/pause button and no volume or any way to change tracks. (i hear theres an app that can change what the button does but it really should be there to start with!)
9. I bought a sim locked version which at the moment means i cant root or install custom roms.
10. The Sony Ericsson UI is awful and downright ugly (again you can always install a different launcher, but thats money for an app that you shouldnt need in my opinion and it just covers the home screens, as soon as you enter the Settings, Dialler or Contacts your right back in the SEUI).
11. Recording in 720p is super laggy and jolts all the time making it useless.
I will go on to say though that the camera is the best phone camera i have ever used by far! Stunning photos everytime. And the same goes for the built in speaker.
UPDATE!!
Ok so i thought i should update this post in case anyone was still undecided on which device to buy. I have since sold my Arc and bought an S2 and WOW WHAT A DIFFERENCE!.
The S2 solves all the little problems i had with the Arc (the headset wiring is the right way round, the headphone jack is on the top of the device, the micro USB is at the bottom PERFECT)
PLUS it solves the big problems i had. The S2 is lightning fast, fast like you wouldnt believe! Everything opens instantaneously including the camera which literately takes just a second to open and be ready to shoot.
Speaking of the camera the built in features are better (panorama up to 8 pictures, cartoon mode and beauty shot, as well as all the stuff the Arc has) and it films in 1080p!!! The quality is superb you just would not believe it was recorded on a phone!!! Oh AND you can use digital zoom at the highest quality setting by pinching the screen! Cool feature the Arc doesnt have at all let alone with a cool multi touch gesture!
I have had the phone running for about 3 days now and used it heavily (games, video, intensive browsing with heavy flash sites usually for 2 hours at a time) and not once have i needed to force close stuff with a task killer or restart the phone, the S2 just keeps on going with whatever you do to it. I have never known a phone capable of such use!
With my Arc i would of had to have run a task killer after EVERY task in order for it to be responsive enough to do something else at a reasonable speed. For example with the Arc if i watched a few flash videos in the browser and then pressed the home button, the Home Screen would be unresponsive for a couple of seconds and all the app shortcuts would have missing 'transparent' icons. After a few seconds the icons would come back and i would need to run a task killer to be able to do anything else or it would take up to 5mins even to load the FB app!
With the S2 i can just keep using it, task after task and it never slows down even a tiny bit, everything continues to be buttery smooth and instantaneous even after using several intensive apps!
The S2 never laggs at any time even when using a live wallpaper, its always buttery smooth and just as responsive. The Arc used to lag a bit when using a live wallpaper.
The S2 boots up in less than 15-20 seconds!!! The Arc took nearly a whole minute! Nothing so far has force closed and everything has opened almost instantaneously! The build quality is so much better, much sturdier and no wobbly buttons made of cheep plastic. Everything on the S2 is rock solid and built to a really high standard!
There are little bonus's with the phone too, the ROM and UI is much better designed. Theres a CM7 style settings widget in the notification tray, the music player looks and works brilliantly and includes a widget in the notification tray when its in use for album art and music controlls. Theres a 2MP front facing camera the Arc didnt have one at all and the battery seems to last longer. Theres loads of built in gestures, like pinching the screen in the browser when zoomed out brings up the tabbed windows screen, holding 2 fingers on the screen and then tilting the phone forward or back zooms in or out on photos and in the browser, holding an icon or a widget then tilting the phone left or right moves across the home screens and turning the phone upside down when you get a call silences the ring! Watch them here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxCW7U2m8dk
Theres also a wealth of handy built in apps from Samsung including a photo and video editor!, unlike the usual useless rubbish manufacturers put on phones plus even more handy stuff like built in screen capture by pressing 'home' and 'power' buttons together and it has that nice 'bump' effect the same as the iphone when you get to the top or bottom of a page or menu. Personally i find Touch Whiz 4.0 much better than the Arc launcher however i am using Launcher Pro (i had to buy i to replace the Arc's homescreen so i might as well get my moneys worth haha, plus i really like it)
All in all, reading peoples comments, i might agree that i had a faulty unit but even so, the S2 is miles ahead in my opinion. It just eats any task you give it with no hassel. Its never rebooted itself. It never laggs and has so many more built in features. The Super AmoLED screen is just breathtaking, the picture quality and colour depth must be seen to be believed!
Each is to their own, and im sure all the owners here love the Arc, but in my own opinion, especially if your a heavy user... GET THE S2!
P.S. For LiveView owners, disconnections are far and few between with the S2! With the Arc i would have to reconnect the LiveView every 1 or 2 hours whereas with the S2 i can sometimes go a whole day without needing to reconnect!
keyz86 said:
Hi all,
Now im generally not a fan of people posting 'hate' threads, but this phone has dissapointed me so much that i feel it necessary to point out why i turned to hate it and why im selling it and getting the Galaxy SII in order to help people that are thinking of buying this phone to make an advised decision.
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I am not sure what world you are talking about, but want to comment on your points..
1. It constantly lags, and almost every app force closes (and YES i have reset the phone and used both .181 and .145 versions of the firmware.
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Really??? I have more than 100 apps installed from Market & not a single app force closes & there is no lag. There are a lot of videos on youtube of ARC running smoothly with loads of apps, without lag or force close. Every review statets that & even it runs almost as sommth & fast as GalaxyS2 (Youtube Videos)
2. When the phone starts syncing accounts in the background it renders it unusable. The phone takes up to 5 minutes to load the Facebook app and longer for anything else.
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I just can't believe that. 4 Arc in my house, and not a single has a similar problem. My phone runs normalls when it syncing..
3. Sony Ericsson's stupid decision to reverse the ground and mic wires so you cant use any other wired headphones with an inline control but the ones it came with. As discussed in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045973&page=1
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I can't say anything about that coz i have no knowledge about that...
4. The camera takes too long to open.
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Really? Do you really mean it???
"The camera has its own shutter button, and you can snap up to one frame per second at full resolution (8 megapixels)." Source: http://www.amobil.no/artikler/sony_ericsson_xperia_arc/93179/3
"What we might like best about this camera is how quick it is. When you press the dedicated camera key, you are ready to take the picture in no time, and to take the picture is also faster than usual." Source: http://www.mobili.no/tester/test-av-sony-ericsson-xperia-arc/
I have never used a mobile where a camera opens as fast as it does on ARC..
5. The USB socket is on the side at the top so you have to have a landscape dock which takes up more room (obviously only applies to people that use a dock with their phones).
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Not a problem for me... But didn't you know that before buying?
6. The USB/Power lead that comes with it is angled up instead of down which i find just gets in the way.
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Not a problem for me..
7. The headphone jack is on the side (ok this is not a major issue but is annoying when getting it in and out of your pocket when you have headphones in.
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Not a problem for me... But didn't you know that before buying?
8. The headphones that come with it only have a play/pause button and no volume or any way to change tracks. (i hear theres an app that can change what the button does but it really should be there to start with!)
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And this one with Galaxy S2 is really far better? http://st.gsmarena.com/vv/reviewsimg/samsung-i9100-galaxy-s-ii/review/phone/gsmarena_029.jpg
9. I bought a sim locked version which at the moment means i cant root or install custom roms.
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You can root it although it's sim locked.. But anyway, how it's a negative point when it was YOU who bought it sim lock?
10. The Sony Ericsson UI is awful and downright ugly (again you can always install a different launcher, but thats money for an app that you shouldnt need in my opinion and it just covers the home screens, as soon as you enter the Settings, Dialler or Contacts your right back in the SEUI).
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It's only personal choice, You can't tell others its ugly & awful. Many here mean that Samsung UI is awful.. But it depends on personal choice. SE UI was same when you decided to buy this phone & it was with this UI, the Arc was advertised..
11. Recording in 720p is super laggy and jolts all the time making it useless.
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A lot of videos available on net captured with Arc.. And after lastest update the minor bugs are already fixed..
I will go on to say though that the camera is the best phone camera i have ever used by far! Stunning photos everytime. And the same goes for the built in speaker.
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Thanks!!!!
And if you think Galaxy S2 would be really bugfree, then i will suggest to take a tour to Galaxy S2's section & i can only wish you good luck... And Bye!
Mano1982 said:
Really??? I have more than 100 apps installed from Market & not a single app force closes & there is no lag. There are a lot of videos on youtube of ARC running smoothly with loads of apps, without lag or force close. Every review statets that & even it runs almost as sommth & fast as GalaxyS2 (Youtube Videos)
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Mano1982 said:
I just can't believe that. 4 Arc in my house, and not a single has a similar problem. My phone runs normalls when it syncing..
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yes really, its really that bad! restore after restore i get these problems. perhaps its a faulty unit, i dont know.
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Really? Do you really mean it???
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yes i do! my phone before this was a HD7 and before that an iPhone4, both took a fraction of the time to open the camera app. and yes i am quite aware it has a dedicated camera button thank you.
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and this one with Galaxy S2 is really far better?
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no, but i expected a lot more from Sony! plus with the S2 the stupid wiring problem doesnt exist so im free to choose what ever wired headset i wish.
Mano1982 said:
You can root it although it's sim locked
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you cant root on the 2.3.3 update
Mano1982 said:
A lot of videos available on net captured with Arc.. And after lastest update the minor bugs are already fixed
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after the update the issue still exists for me otherwise i wouldnt have written about it
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And if you think Galaxy S2 would be really bugfree!
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i dont expect anything to be bug free, but after using several S2's to me it seems a lot less buggy than my Arc, again perhaps mine is faulty, but none the less for me personally i prefer the Samsung UI and features (built in gestures, settings on the notifications tray like in CM7 and all the little things that the Arc seems to be missing)
I do admit that my misses Arc keeps force closing and randomly rebooting but she still loves it I prefer the I9000 as u can see....can do more with it in regards to CM7....it works wonders on the I9000 but I'm not so sure about the Arc due its complexity of inner workings I.e bravia engine etc and the galaxy s 2 is pretty much the same as the I9000 just a faster processor and more ram...everything else is the same lol....personal preference....I9000
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Facebook takes 10 sec to open on mine :-D
For UI...yup dey sux whether its Samsung,lg,htc or SE. Using launcher pro instead
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I have to agree with the video recording...BUT, when you play it back on another device/player the jittery lag is non existent. good luck with your new phone anyway.
Hmmmmm... I have been tossing up between the Arc and the S2 for several days now. I know the S2 is higher spec'ed but after reading reviews about the arc I decided that for my needs, the arc would be fine. After reading this though I just don't know...
The only one of those issues that is real is the headphone wiring one.. Everything else is either personal preference or faulty unit.
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The only one of those issues that is real is the headphone wiring one.. Everything else is either personal preference or faulty unit.
Sent from the Arc.
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So the force close thing is a faulty unit? With a new baby on the way this is going to be the last phone I'll be able to buy for a while so I want to make sure I make the right choice. I'm upgrading from a Samsung Captivate so if the force close thing is a faulty unit, then everything else is going to be alot better than I currently have?
Of course it's a faulty unit.
Or some **** software installed.
Normally Arc is super snappy.
doministry said:
Of course it's a faulty unit.
Or some **** software installed.
Normally Arc is super snappy.
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Thanks mate, I'll be getting mine first thing in the morning now
Hey i want to know about the sound quality of arc in headphone?
i am not a audiophile but i use phone to listen songs(daily 2hours or more),,right now i am having w705 with modded acoustic and it give good sound and beats.....so i want to know is sound quality of arc in headphone is good or bad?
i am thinking of upgrading my phone..........
please give genuine advice...........
djice000 said:
I do admit that my misses Arc keeps force closing and randomly rebooting
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is it true?
abhisheak.bansal said:
is it true?
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It may well be, he may have got a bad one and should take it back for an exchange. Most people's arcs are rock solid though.
can u answer sound quality question mentioned above?
keyz86 said:
1. It constantly lags, and almost every app force closes (and YES i have reset the phone and used both .181 and .145 versions of the firmware.
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IMO you have a duff phone or dodgy apps installed. If youve reset and it's still doing it it sounds like hardware so you should take it back for an exchange. Seriously, my arc is rock solid and it *flies*.
2. When the phone starts syncing accounts in the background it renders it unusable. The phone takes up to 5 minutes to load the Facebook app and longer for anything else.
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Almost certainly caused by same problem as 1.
4. The camera takes too long to open.
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I agree on this one. Also the button is too fiddly and unreliable. SE get a free pass from me on this one cos the camera is simply amazing otherwise.
6. The USB/Power lead that comes with it is angled up instead of down which i find just gets in the way.
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Personally i think it's the right way round, but if it's annoying you could always buy another lead.
9. I bought a sim locked version which at the moment means i cant root or install custom roms.
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Ah, well you have only yourself to blame for this one. Research better before purchasing next time. (or just be patient and wait for someone to crack the bootloader)
10. The Sony Ericsson UI is awful and downright ugly (again you can always install a different launcher, but thats money for an app that you shouldnt need in my opinion and it just covers the home screens, as soon as you enter the Settings, Dialler or Contacts your right back in the SEUI).
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Couldnt disagree more, i think it's a million miles better than anything samsung or htc have produced. But horses for courses innit. As for 3rd party launchers - the ability to change launchers is one of the joys of android, and plenty of good ones are FREE.
The dialer is pretty crap though (i recommend dialer2 from the market).
11. Recording in 720p is super laggy and jolts all the time making it useless.
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AFAIK this has been fixed in the recent firmware, probably related to your hardware problem in 1.
Cant really comment on your headphone issues, but they sound like reasonable things to have a problem with. Personally i think you have a faulty handset so i'd take it back if i were you. If the headphone issues and UI style are a dealbreaker i guess then the arc just isnt for you, but if not try again with working handset - dont dismiss the phone as being laggy/buggy because you got a duff one.
The Arc isn't really a bad phone....if your having problems with FCs etc then as Davey said it probably a dodgy app or a hardware fault. The only thing I don't like about it is the bootup time....it takes forever lol other than that its really snappy
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Hey i want to know about the sound quality of arc in headphone?
i am not a audiophile but i use phone to listen songs(daily 2hours or more),,right now i am having w705 with modded acoustic and it give good sound and beats.....so i want to know is sound quality of arc in headphone is good or bad?
i am thinking of upgrading my phone..........
please give genuine advice...........
sorry for double post
Yeah it does every now and again....but it doesn't bother her and it takes forever to boot up, even when fresh out of the box lol
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abhisheak.bansal said:
can u answer sound quality question mentioned above?
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Personally i've only used it a couple of times as an mp3 player - but it's been pretty good, at least as good as my dedicated mp3 player.
However i havent even touched the supplied headphones, so cant comment on those either way.
Hoooolllly cr*p. The volume in the X10 is totally unacceptable! I had an appointment today I was waiting for a very long time and I set up 3 reminders/alarms. They went off. but I heard not a single one! Appointment missed, pushed back another month.
What is the point of an alarm function that you can't even hear!
All my volumes are set to max. I can't hear text messages going thru, I can't hear notifications going thru. My ears are fine, the phone whispers. God it's driving me nuts.
I've never had this problem with any other phone, could hear those things a mile away. Am rrreally starting to lose faith in something I can't rely on.
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denverseven said:
Hoooolllly cr*p. The volume in the X10 is totally unacceptable! I had an appointment today I was waiting for a very long time and I set up 3 reminders/alarms. They went off. but I heard not a single one! Appointment missed, pushed back another month.
What is the point of an alarm function that you can't even hear!
All my volumes are set to max. I can't hear text messages going thru, I can't hear notifications going thru. My ears are fine, the phone whispers. God it's driving me nuts.
I've never had this problem with any other phone, could hear those things a mile away. Am rrreally starting to lose faith in something I can't rely on.
(/Vent)
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The x10 is a complete failure.
Bad GSM radio.
Bad audio.
Lack of hardware features.
Great cpu, camera and sexy screen let down by everything else.
OmegaRED^ said:
The x10 is a complete failure.
Bad GSM radio.
Bad audio.
Lack of hardware features.
Great cpu, camera and sexy screen let down by everything else.
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I second this. Sexy shell, but lousy internals.
Dunno what to say.
Mine is set to below halfway and it wakes me up just fine. Sure it's not the loudest phone I've ever had but it's more than acceptable (even without xLoud for most things).
BTW, did the snooze function work? I mean, if 3 alarms were set and if they kept on going, then they keep on coming back on every 10 minutes (default unless changed).
Maybe your loudspeaker is busted? Did you ever try any of the roms with xLoud?
Have mine set up with xloud and latest dsp manager app, combined, my phone now has the same volume as my friends galaxy s2, just about. However the speakers will die soon at that rate I expect. But my contract is up in 4 months so I dont care if I kill it!
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denverseven said:
Hoooolllly cr*p. The volume in the X10 is totally unacceptable! I had an appointment today I was waiting for a very long time and I set up 3 reminders/alarms. They went off. but I heard not a single one! Appointment missed, pushed back another month.
What is the point of an alarm function that you can't even hear!
All my volumes are set to max. I can't hear text messages going thru, I can't hear notifications going thru. My ears are fine, the phone whispers. God it's driving me nuts.
I've never had this problem with any other phone, could hear those things a mile away. Am rrreally starting to lose faith in something I can't rely on.
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You must either be a heavy sleeper, you're going deaf, or you have a defective phone.
I have my alarm go off on workdays at a bit over half volume and I can hear it no problem.
Seriously, all this X10 bashing is incredibly old.
Another question.
Was it an alarm or a calendar reminder that you were using? The reminder function for the calendar just uses the SMS tone.
xLoud is your friend. Huge difference with it opposed to without, just use some common sense though.
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OmegaRED^ said:
The x10 is a complete failure.
Bad GSM radio.
Bad audio.
Lack of hardware features.
Great cpu, camera and sexy screen let down by everything else.
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"bad gsm radio" !!!!!!!!!!!! You must be crazy.....SE has the best gsm radio in the these companies....or did you forgot that whos making the gsm radio and antenna is Ericsson itself....btw...ericsson is the best in the bisness.....plus did you forget that the x10 is a 2009 phone....its old...dont compare it to today's phones.....also the sound is just fine...i hear my phone ringing from miles away.........god damn.
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with all due respect, I still don't get why people **** so much about the speakers.
Maybe I've been lucky, I don't know, but I don't have any issue with the sound.
Granted, you need to put an appropriate ringtone... you won't here anything if you put a ringtone of rainfall
That said, If I had to complain of a similar functionality on the X10, it would be the phone's vibration, which I feel is very week compared to my old SE W810i.
I'v gone over three X10i (hugh...thank god for Orange France's insurance) and all have been exactly the same for me. No sound issue, but ****ty vibration compared to my old phone.
Just a thought guys and gals but it also depends on your ring tone. IMHO i find most of the standard ones a bit dull, but i found somefree mp3's and midi's online and the other morning when my alarm went off i nearly hit the ceiling! even woke up the girl
Pvy.
Here is my alarm tone. give it a go see if it helps
http://www.mediafire.com/?ibocw3qa76nvxci
walidhiphop said:
"bad gsm radio" !!!!!!!!!!!! You must be crazy.....SE has the best gsm radio in the these companies....or did you forgot that whos making the gsm radio and antenna is Ericsson itself....btw...ericsson is the best in the bisness.....plus did you forget that the x10 is a 2009 phone....its old...dont compare it to today's phones.....also the sound is just fine...i hear my phone ringing from miles away.........god damn.
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Wow, he doesn't compare X10 with anything.
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Personally phone speaker volume, vibration, hardware...I find spectacular. Phone speaker is exceptionally loud without dsp manager or xloud or any other programs. Vibration intensity seems to be fine for me. Hardware...I don't understand what is wrong with it...perfectly good to me...and GSM and WIFI work perfectly...always have H signal RARELY I have to use 3G I mean RARELY...maybe like for 2 minutes in a month. Always have phone signal...btw I have ATT. ONLY issue for me is SONY not providing proper phone SOFTWARE. GB update was a tad disappointing from their kernel, 16 mil, fps uncap, and everything else... was not a well done job.
OK...the IN-CALL VOLUME is something that bothers me; the only hardware related gripe. It is extremely quiet...barely can hear person on other side...when in average loud environment. BUT I suspect that with DSP Manager installed the IN-CALL VOLUME could be louder.
I am using "The Lion Sleeps Tonight" for ringtone/alarm.
I am using "Altair" for notification.
Your phone might have an issue. OR you...haha; deep sleeper.
Anyone know what the best option is, dsp manager or xloud?
The main thing I need is call volume clarity. I tried some versions of DSPManager.apk but they didn't seem to make a difference... Tips?
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im usin xloud
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Anseldor said:
with all due respect, I still don't get why people **** so much about the speakers.
Maybe I've been lucky, I don't know, but I don't have any issue with the sound.
Granted, you need to put an appropriate ringtone... you won't here anything if you put a ringtone of rainfall
That said, If I had to complain of a similar functionality on the X10, it would be the phone's vibration, which I feel is very week compared to my old SE W810i.
I'v gone over three X10i (hugh...thank god for Orange France's insurance) and all have been exactly the same for me. No sound issue, but ****ty vibration compared to my old phone.
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Aaah, the w810... probably my most favorite phone that i've owned. That phone had one hell of a speaker for its size.
I don't mind the vibration of the X10i. Yeah, it's a tiny-little-bit weak but it's good (really good IMHO) and really comes down to preference. I like how varied the vibration can be (mild, medium, high). I came from an N85 and that had only 1 setting: seizure. That thing would vibrate like nuts at anything. On a scale of 1-10, it was at '11' all the time. LOL
I find the speakers to be satisfyingly loud enough with xLoud. I use the Beep-Beep-Beep sound for alarm. never fails to wake me up.
Vibrations on large phones like this are hard as it's absorbed by the phone's weight itself but i find it rather pleasant to have than annoyingly skidding over the table.
tomh235 said:
Anyone know what the best option is, dsp manager or xloud?
The main thing I need is call volume clarity. I tried some versions of DSPManager.apk but they didn't seem to make a difference... Tips?
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I am running both, but if you just want one take the dsp, gives you an equalizer to adjust for clarity of sound. Yesterday someone posted a brilliant version of dsp in wolfs 2.3.3 thread. The apk is in a rar file so just use root explorer to install it
The sound is noticeably improved
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walidhiphop said:
"bad gsm radio" !!!!!!!!!!!! You must be crazy.....SE has the best gsm radio in the these companies....or did you forgot that whos making the gsm radio and antenna is Ericsson itself....btw...ericsson is the best in the bisness.....plus did you forget that the x10 is a 2009 phone....its old...dont compare it to today's phones.....also the sound is just fine...i hear my phone ringing from miles away.........god damn.
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Turn on 3G in a location with low signal and charge it, now browse online and watch the battery heat.
Don't cheat by putting the phone in LN2 first. try it in a nice 27*C summer ambient heat.
And tell me it's awesome. you can cook food on it. and the battery goes dead in 1 hour from there on, you can cook some meat by then and make some coffee on it.
Then once the power circuits have completely nuked you can use it as a paper weight.
people using xloud should be careful.....
mark my word, people are going to start blowing their speakers. You can hear it cracking/getting damaged.
First impression is that call quality absolutely sucks! I do have data connectivity while on a call and that is certainly a plus. But call quality (clarity) is nowhere near what it was before. Maybe I'm just missing a setting, or maybe it's because this is first gen VoLTE...
Thoughts?
PerCompLLC said:
First impression is that call quality absolutely sucks! I do have data connectivity while on a call and that is certainly a plus. But call quality (clarity) is nowhere near what it was before. Maybe I'm just missing a setting, or maybe it's because this is first gen VoLTE...
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Same here I tried it several times on the S5 I had and didn't like it at all. It sounds like the other person is talking in a tunnel or something. My wife told me to take it off her phone too. I'm not bothering with this update, the OTA is blocked on my phone. When a worthwhile update comes out I'll unblock it but until then my phone runs fine with no update nags.
Misterxtc said:
Same here I tried it several times on the S5 I had and didn't like it at all. It sounds like the other person is talking in a tunnel or something. My wife told me to take it off her phone too. I'm not bothering with this update, the OTA is blocked on my phone. When a worthwhile update comes out I'll unblock it but until then my phone runs fine with no update nags.
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On the bright side, even if you do take the update, it can be turned off in Advanced Calling settings.
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On the bright side, even if you do take the update, it can be turned off in Advanced Calling settings.
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True, I might take it anyways because of the other fixes but for now I'll hold off.
I agree with the comments, but the battery savings makes it worth it to me.
Mine sounds great. Both my wife and I have turbos.
zeyrah said:
Mine sounds great. Both my wife and I have turbos.
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That is because of HD calling.
Same thing with compatible voip networks. They are crystal, moreso than landlines. We provide VoIP to clients and when we call them it makes an HD connection.
I haven' tbeen in a great area yet to see how this performs optimally, but I just had a call drop in a bad area, so I had to turn Advanced Voice off in order to keep the call from dropping.
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I haven' tbeen in a great area yet to see how this performs optimally, but I just had a call drop in a bad area, so I had to turn Advanced Voice off in order to keep the call from dropping.
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If you are in a 3g area, 1x works again. Fringe areas are bad.
Only a couple of calls so far, but one I was told I sounded choppy. This is standing in a sweet spot at work where I've rarely had trouble. Will keep testing.
Funny I haven't had any issues and my wife has one and she sounds fine on my end as well.
I've also had some choppiness in 2 calls.
Other calls have been just fine.
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Funny I haven't had any issues and my wife has one and she sounds fine on my end as well.
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If you both have it, you had HD calling.
This MASKS the quality issues.
I was in the soak, I've made over 35 calls in the last few days, only one being HD and its all fine? My office is in 4g service, but I'm always out in the middle of nowhere in 1x or 3g if I'm lucky. And everything really does seem more stable, i don't think that the audio is significantly clearer or better but I've not had any issues. I wonder why all the issues.
Wow - haven't seen you around since the incredible days!
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I was in the soak, I've made over 35 calls in the last few days, only one being HD and its all fine? My office is in 4g service, but I'm always out in the middle of nowhere in 1x or 3g if I'm lucky. And everything really does seem more stable, i don't think that the audio is significantly clearer or better but I've not had any issues. I wonder why all the issues.
Wow - haven't seen you around since the incredible days!
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In those cases, you are using CDMA.
Yep, I am back
Haha yea you are! Welcome back!
Understood on the cdma - the handoff is a lot cleaner and the volume seems a touch louder in calls for me. I use google hangouts ALOT while working for work, a video stream into an IDF is handy. The built in video features is worlds better than hangouts, or tango for that matter.
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That though, could be there QoS optimisation for THEIR video service i guess.
It will get better.
I'm willing to suffer through it for no other reason than battery life.
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If you both have it, you had HD calling.
This MASKS the quality issues.
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No one has complained and I've used it all day. Not necessarily saying there isn't an issue. We have both talked to non Verizon phones without issues or complaints.
adrynalyne said:
It will get better.
I'm willing to suffer through it for no other reason than battery life.
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Word. Its a youngling.
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No one has complained and I've used it all day. Not necessarily saying there isn't an issue. We have both talked to non Verizon phones without issues or complaints.
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We might have different levels of what is acceptable then
I'm thinking of getting the ZTE Axon 7 and have a couple of questions.
Where does wifi calling on T-Mobile stand? I've seem some threads with a rumor that the phone will have it with a future update. How likely is it that it will eventually get wifi calling? Any idea how soon?
I thought I read something about the notification light only having 2 colors. Is that true? That sounds like a problem. I really like using LED manager to have different custom colors for different apps.
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I'm thinking of getting the ZTE Axon 7 and have a couple of questions.
Where does wifi calling on T-Mobile stand? I've seem some threads with a rumor that the phone will have it with a future update. How likely is it that it will eventually get wifi calling? Any idea how soon?
I thought I read something about the notification light only having 2 colors. Is that true? That sounds like a problem. I really like using LED manager to have different custom colors for different apps.
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- WiFi calling will be implemented in future or this coming update.
- Notification Lights there's more than what you have mention and if not mistaken light color are Red-Green-Blue and I guess 1 more if not mistaken.
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- WiFi calling will be implemented in future or this coming update.
- Notification Lights there's more than what you have mention and if not mistaken light color are Red-Green-Blue and I guess 1 more if not mistaken.
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Sounds like WiFi calling is coming soon enough then. And that's the t-mobile implementation? Wifi calling will be used for calling and SMS/MMS too, like on other phones?
4 colors would probably suffice. Even on a full RGB light it's tough to tell the colors apart more than that.
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Sounds like WiFi calling is coming soon enough then. And that's the t-mobile implementation? Wifi calling will be used for calling and SMS/MMS too, like on other phones?
4 colors would probably suffice. Even on a full RGB light it's tough to tell the colors apart more than that.
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- yes will be T-Mobile compatible and I don't know about SMS/MMS, we just have to wait and see (I'm with T-Mobile as well)
hows the reception on Tmobile network? especially band 12 does? Also, is VOLTE working out of the box? im thinking of getting this on tmobile but not sure how its performing on the network now.
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hows the reception on Tmobile network? especially band 12 does? Also, is VOLTE working out of the box? im thinking of getting this on tmobile but not sure how its performing on the network now.
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Reception I'm getting the same or better reception than my previous device (LG G4).
Hope the image can answer you second question. :silly:
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Reception I'm getting the same or better reception than my previous device (LG G4).
Hope the image can answer you second question. :silly:
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Excellent. So whats the fuss about the reception issues the phone is having? especially on tmobile!.. im new here but I see that a lot.
daraj said:
Excellent. So whats the fuss about the reception issues the phone is having? especially on tmobile!.. im new here but I see that a lot.
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Been honest I don't know, I'm probably one of the white sheep's in the whole ranch LoL.
So just picked up one on Swappa, since I returned my Note7 and did not feel like jumping to anything else.
So I have a question how bad is the camera in low light? Any other negative feedback you might have?
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- Notification Lights there's more than what you have mention and if not mistaken light color are Red-Green-Blue and I guess 1 more if not mistaken.
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Sorry for dump question but where i find it in settings? I have only two colors green and orange.
nathasnajperowa said:
Sorry for dump question but where i find it in settings? I have only two colors green and orange.
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this info was pull using command lines in terminal, i little while ago and like i said ago don't remember the command line right now...was done while looking for thing to make thing for CM 13.
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this info was pull using command lines in terminal, i little while ago and like i said ago don't remember the command line right now...was done while looking for thing to make thing for CM 13.
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So do you need to be rooted for this? I may not root?
I guess the notification light doesn't work with Lightflow then?
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So do you need to be rooted for this? I may not root?
I guess the notification light doesn't work with Lightflow then?
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no you don't need to have root, to use all notification lights,
I wouldn't get the axon ..I am gonna sell mine. They didn't release factory images, if you unlock bootloader and even if you relock you can no longer receive OTA's. Cameras are not so good..battery life isn't good if I'm lucky I get 4hrs sot. The Dolby Atmos system app constantly changes from Your custom setting to the "movie" dull sounding setting if you scroll through any apps with videos. Seems laggy at times with browser. I liked the oneplus 3 far better ..charging is slower on the axon too vs the oneplus 3.
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I wouldn't get the axon ..I am gonna sell mine. They didn't release factory images, if you unlock bootloader and even if you relock you can no longer receive OTA's. Cameras are not so good..battery life isn't good if I'm lucky I get 4hrs sot. The Dolby Atmos system app constantly changes from Your custom setting to the "movie" dull sounding setting if you scroll through any apps with videos. Seems laggy at times with browser. I liked the oneplus 3 far better ..charging is slower on the axon too vs the oneplus 3.
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If you care about having good speakers, get the Axon. If you don't, get the oneplus. Battery has been excellent for me (consistently over 5 hours SOT over 17 hours), chrome has been very fast, charges plenty fast for most people, build quality is top notch, and mifavor isn't good, but there are workarounds to most of the issues and it's at least fast and stable. I do wish they'd release the factory images, though...
If you think being forced to use the "music" profile on Atmos is bad, just wait until you hear how bad the OnePlus 3s speakers are
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If you care about having good speakers, get the Axon. If you don't, get the oneplus. Battery has been excellent for me (consistently over 5 hours SOT over 17 hours), chrome has been very fast, charges plenty fast for most people, build quality is top notch, and mifavor isn't good, but there are workarounds to most of the issues and it's at least fast and stable. I do wish they'd release the factory images, though...
If you think being forced to use the "music" profile on Atmos is bad, just wait until you hear how bad the OnePlus 3s speakers are
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I don't use phone speaker at all lol I'm talking about Atmos with headphones. OnePlus 3 was far better IMO. I installed Atmos on the oneplus 3 along with Sony Xperia player with EQ
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I don't use phone speaker at all lol I'm talking about Atmos with headphones. OnePlus 3 was far better IMO. I installed Atmos on the oneplus 3 along with Sony Xperia player with EQ
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Fair enough.
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Fair enough.
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Holy sh*t I just created a separate profile for the main speaker ...I'm blown away I didn't realize the speakers actually sounded that good ..
it looks really cool
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Holy sh*t I just created a separate profile for the main speaker ...I'm blown away I didn't realize the speakers actually sounded that good ..
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What profile did you make and how? Care to share your settings.
Hi Guys, I've just bought a 6T....12 Hrs ago.
I love it, it gave me a real Wow switching it on.
There's just 3 things niggling me.
1. One speaker? Really? One Speaker?
2. The Clock and Weather Widgets, I can't get them lined up on the screen, also the trademark Red digit is not incorporated into the clock widget and both the weather and clock widgets show the date....!!! So side by side they not only don't align they repeat the same data and don't match.
3. Can't hide apps....would be nice to hide a load of stock apps I will never use.
Apart from those 3 gripes, the phone is amazing.
I absolutely love it and am very, very glad to be part of the OnePlus community.
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Hi Guys, I've just bought a 6T....12 Hrs ago.
I love it, it gave me a real Wow switching it on.
There's just 3 things niggling me.
1. One speaker? Really? One Speaker?
2. The Clock and Weather Widgets, I can't get them lined up on the screen, also the trademark Red digit is not incorporated into the clock widget and both the weather and clock widgets show the date....!!! So side by side they not only don't align they repeat the same data and don't match.
3. Can't hide apps....would be nice to hide a load of stock apps I will never use.
Apart from those 3 gripes, the phone is amazing.
I absolutely love it and am very, very glad to be part of the OnePlus community.
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Let me tell you what I've learned since I have gotten mine. I'm not sure about the clock and weather widget. But at far as the single speaker, this phone doesn't need 2. This summer l speaker is loud. And you can hide apps by creating a Locker. I'm not sure yet how to do that but you can Google that, that's where I read about it.
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Let me tell you what I've learned since I have gotten mine. I'm not sure about the clock and weather widget. But at far as the single speaker, this phone doesn't need 2. This summer l speaker is loud. And you can hide apps by creating a Locker. I'm not sure yet how to do that but you can Google that, that's where I read about it.
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Thanks...yeah I hear you about the speaker but when you are watching a movie all the audio is in on one side....I mean come on it's mono and that went out in the 1960's!!!!
My first oneplus aswell ?. Another tip in hiding apps is that you can store them in the hidden section of your stock launcher. You can do that by swiping up to get to your apps and if you gently Swype from the left corner to the right it brings up the hidden section. One the speaker in with you most times than not I tend to cover it by accident while watching YouTube etc
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Thanks...yeah I hear you about the speaker but when you are watching a movie all the audio is in on one side....I mean come on it's mono and that went out in the 1960's!!!!
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You can hide apps, open the app drawer, swipe left, you can hide them in there.
Btw there's a dual speaker mod in the app section.
treetolber said:
Let me tell you what I've learned since I have gotten mine. I'm not sure about the clock and weather widget. But at far as the single speaker, this phone doesn't need 2. This summer l speaker is loud. And you can hide apps by creating a Locker. I'm not sure yet how to do that but you can Google that, that's where I read about it.
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My first oneplus aswell . Another tip in hiding apps is that you can store them in the hidden section of your stock launcher. You can do that by swiping up to get to your apps and if you gently Swype from the left corner to the right it brings up the hidden section. One the speaker in with you most times than not I tend to cover it by accident while watching YouTube etc
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You can hide apps, open the app drawer, swipe left, you can hide them in there.
Btw there's a dual speaker mod in the app section.
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Oh Wow, thanks guys that's a real secret!! Excellent.
I did see the dual speaker mod but I need to be rooted and I'm still debating whether it's worth it or not. I don't want to make my phone buggy and slow and I'm sick of cloak root and stuff like that....
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Oh Wow, thanks guys that's a real secret!! Excellent.
I did see the dual speaker mod but I need to be rooted and I'm still debating whether it's worth it or not. I don't want to make my phone buggy and slow and I'm sick of cloak root and stuff like that....
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Fair enough, it's a great phone stock as well, I just rooted to mess around, plus I like the international rom more since I'm on the t-mobile variant.
eskimosound said:
Oh Wow, thanks guys that's a real secret!! Excellent.
I did see the dual speaker mod but I need to be rooted and I'm still debating whether it's worth it or not. I don't want to make my phone buggy and slow and I'm sick of cloak root and stuff like that....
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Yeah I haven't rooted yet. Just got my bootloader unlock token today. I think I'm going to wait for the dev of some ROMs to catch up a little. To me this phone is perfect as is.
By the way in my earlier statement about the speaker, replace the word summer with single. I got auto corrected.
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Even the phone itself tells you how to hide apps in its default launcher, it pops up just after you open app drawer...
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Fair enough, it's a great phone stock as well, I just rooted to mess around, plus I like the international rom more since I'm on the t-mobile variant.
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It is amazing, so clean and fast. I've had no stalls, apps download and install in seconds without causing any clitching.
I can have a dark theme on an amoled screen which looks awesome. I think it's brilliant. I've got the international version because I'm UK. I might well root but now I can hide the apps it would only be to sort out the speaker...but that's in the future....I'm more than happy for the time being now knowing I can hide the bloatware.
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Fair enough, it's a great phone stock as well, I just rooted to mess around, plus I like the international rom more since I'm on the t-mobile variant.
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Yeah I haven't rooted yet. Just got my bootloader unlock token today. I think I'm going to wait for the dev of some ROMs to catch up a little. To me this phone is perfect as is.
By the way in my earlier statement about the speaker, replace the word summer with single. I got auto corrected.
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Yeah I'm definitely waiting the phone is too good!!
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Even the phone itself tells you how to hide apps in its default launcher, it pops up just after you open app drawer...
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I must have missed that...
So do you know why my stock clock widget doesn't have the red digits? Is there an APK somewhere on XDA that can sort it?
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So do you know why my stock clock widget doesn't have the red digits? Is there an APK somewhere on XDA that can sort it?
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No, sorry, I'm not using stock clock.
Here's mine..
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Here's mine..
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Don't use the clock widget, search through your widgets for one called "OnePlus widget"
I completely agree with the OP regarding the feeling when using this phone. I had been a long time htc fan but after TMobile stopped carrying it, I was lost because the os experience was severely lacking from the other manufacturers. I'm on jump on demand and I tried fiddling around with lg and Samsung for a little bit but just want satisfied. Finally made the switch to iPhone and was happy for 2 years with apple, however after apple pulled the stunt of increasing prices for subpar upgrade to the iPhone this year, left a bad taste in my mouth and when I saw TMobile will carry the one plus, I decided to jump and give it a shot. It's been a long time since I had the feeling of having the perfect phone and this is coming from someone who tends to change phones every 3 to 4 months due to the freedom provided by JOD. I will be keeping this until the next upgrade from one plus comes out. Plus I got lucky as one of the reps sim unlocked my phone even though I met none of their criteria for unlock in the spirit of Thanksgiving holiday! So a pleasant bonus and now currently waiting for bootloader unlock code for root. The only reason I want to root is due to completely and utterly blocking ads from everything including apps. That is one thing I miss from apple. A lot less ads on the device compared to Android, however that should be resolved soon. This stock os is perfect otherwise! Amazing battery life, extremely fast charging, and buttery smooth! What else can one ask for!
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Don't use the clock widget, search through your widgets for one called "OnePlus widget"
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Yep, that's the weather widget it's great and has the red digit.
But there is no clock with the red digit.
There is however a setting for the red digit clock for the lockscreen...so somewhere in the phone is a red digit clock widget!!!
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I completely agree with the OP regarding the feeling when using this phone. I had been a long time htc fan but after TMobile stopped carrying it, I was lost because the os experience was severely lacking from the other manufacturers. I'm on jump on demand and I tried fiddling around with lg and Samsung for a little bit but just want satisfied. Finally made the switch to iPhone and was happy for 2 years with apple, however after apple pulled the stunt of increasing prices for subpar upgrade to the iPhone this year, left a bad taste in my mouth and when I saw TMobile will carry the one plus, I decided to jump and give it a shot. It's been a long time since I had the feeling of having the perfect phone and this is coming from someone who tends to change phones every 3 to 4 months due to the freedom provided by JOD. I will be keeping this until the next upgrade from one plus comes out. Plus I got lucky as one of the reps sim unlocked my phone even though I met none of their criteria for unlock in the spirit of Thanksgiving holiday! So a pleasant bonus and now currently waiting for bootloader unlock code for root. The only reason I want to root is due to completely and utterly blocking ads from everything including apps. That is one thing I miss from apple. A lot less ads on the device compared to Android, however that should be resolved soon. This stock os is perfect otherwise! Amazing battery life, extremely fast charging, and buttery smooth! What else can one ask for!
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Yep it's a great phone....very very glad I made the switch from HTC.
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I still haven't had one glitch or stall!!!
It's been nothing but super smooth...
Hey look at the widgets I've found...
The red digit is only the 1. Anytime a 1 shows in the temperature or time, it's red.
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Hey look at the widgets I've found...
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Where did you find those?