When i heard of the name of the HTC One, I was rather confused. I knew it was the new HTC Phone, that it was better than any other phone in the series of One devices and was their flagship phone for 2013 at least until the One+. But giving it the name "One" was weird to me. It makes it SOUND like it was before the other One devices. I'm sure you can argue that it is the "One" phone to have but if i was an average smartphone user and didn't know much about smartphones, I would pick something like the One X over something named to One if i had no idea what the specs were. It just seems odd to me.
I don't know if I'm the only one who found it weird but what do you guys think?
Definitely my thoughts. Stupid htc.
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Stupid name, especially when trying to find accessories liek screen protectors etc, you type HTC one and one x, one s, one x+, one sv a range of one devices come up. the should have stuck to HTC M7 imo sounds much better and easier to distinguish.
The One name is great for puns though i.e it is the 'ONE' for me.
It is weird... but only because the naming conventions are unusual.
Personally, I would have liked it better if they called it the "2013" One X. Or the One Xi, One Xii, One Xii+. etc.
If you ask me I think the name HTC One is far superior than those of One X, One S, One V etc.
Why?
It sound like as if One X, S, V are prototypes Usually when you make prototypes on products you add some sort of unique sub name to distinguish version types and then trim it down when it's already for production.
Or it's as if it is the grandest of all One series.
I'd call it pure laziness
Slithered from my HTC One X+
Since HTC always came up with crazy nicknames they may have ran out of names. At least it isn't xperia (insert letter here)
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HTC did it backwards I think. Last year should have been the HTC one, this year the HTC One X ( I think One x sounds bad ass, it would have been a great name as a successor)
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xXxG0dzRAgexXx said:
When i heard of the name of the HTC One, I was rather confused. I knew it was the new HTC Phone, that it was better than any other phone in the series of One devices and was their flagship phone for 2013 at least until the One+. But giving it the name "One" was weird to me. It makes it SOUND like it was before the other One devices. I'm sure you can argue that it is the "One" phone to have but if i was an average smartphone user and didn't know much about smartphones, I would pick something like the One X over something named to One if i had no idea what the specs were. It just seems odd to me.
I don't know if I'm the only one who found it weird but what do you guys think?
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Do questions like these keep you awake at night????
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Do questions like these keep you awake at night????
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Of course, I haven't slept once since they've announced it because the name of it causes just so much distress. xD No, just curious on how others think about HTC's wonky naming system.
speaking of wonky naming system reminds me of sony
Took a page from Apples book. They did the same with the iPad. Personally I actually like the name One.
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I think it is great. They wanted to keep with the one naming and they did. I also think they did it to hopefully keep people less confused with the different variations and will just stick with the "one" as their flagship phone across all carriers. The x, s, v just confused a bunch of people and totally went away from their marketing of the "one". Just as Samsung has their galaxy s, htc from here forward will have the one.
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I like it too.
I really don't like really fragmented product naming systems that have no relevance to eachother.
Assuming that this is "a new start" in terms of naming, hopefully they stick with it and we can write off their frankly ridiculous naming of the past.
What I mean is that say from now on HTC makes 8 phones a year, they could be named One through to Eight with one being the flagship, and the name reused each year after that for the successor (much like how cars are named).
I know it won't happen that way, but that makes sense to me and when you tell people you have the HTC One, they would KNOW you have the best one.
Simply awesome
Evidence: everybody been asking about the HTC "One" :laugh:
remember the name is actually an HTC trademark!
The first person I mentioned it to replied back telling me they already released the One...I had to spend some time convincing them otherwise. In that sense it's silly but 99% of the population barely know about HTC, I think they are going with a whole new strategy here despite recycling the name. It indicates a 'rebirth' to me.
I'd like to see them imitate Apple and Sammy's naming convention...HTC One 2...HTC One 3 :silly:
I am already tired of googling for htc one -x -"x+" -s -v -xl -sv
It sounds great, and htc have confirmed that will only be making this one single phone a year (no smaller or '+' the or click version) ; so the problem is what will they call next year's version.
I've just worked it out, it can only be called the Two.?
Actually that doesn't seem so bad then
I like the name.
Random person - "What phone have you got there?"
Me - "Oh, it's the ONE"
Random (now impressed person) - "OMG that sounds awesome! I think I'll go buy one"
After all the Hobbits were a lot more concerned about "The One ring" than "The 2013 One X ring".
i also think the name is kind of awkward...
by now it is already hard to find accessoires etc. online (amazon etc.) for my one x+ (the main problem is the + but also that there is the one S, V, X, ...)
then how will it be with the one? i think then the results of all one X/S/V/XL/X+ will be displayed and this is really a disadvantage.
in my opinion it's just confusing and the name m7 would've been better, both for recgnization and because of the name itself..
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So I bought a Nexus S yesterday, earlier today I noticed a co worker of mine had a Nexus 1, I know of them, I mean I've seen them but I never actually held one; I was blown away by the build quality and the trackball is awesome as well. After playing with his phone I started hitting up craigslist to see if I could find one and was seriously considering returning my Nexus S.
I think I'm gonna keep the Nexus S after all but god damn, I'm just shocked that the Nexus S is the Nexus S, I mean, you would think that after the Nexus 1, the phone replacing it would at least have that same style of build quality. oh well, I still like the NS non the less.
I'm sure you can understand why so many of us chose not to upgrade, eh? The Nexus S is a nice handset if you didn't already have a Nexus One...it just isn't a big enough step up for us though.
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biggest suck up thread ever
though, I personally, am very flattered
Nexus s is great. You get a better touch sensor and a faster gpu.
I played with one in store. I have my N1 running the latest CM7 gingerbread. So I setup my desktop matching the NS.
The screen is a Tad nicer but overall I didn't see much to warrant my dough.
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deenn said:
biggest suck up thread ever
though, I personally, am very flattered
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haha no sucking up here, just gotta pay respect when its due; I mean lets be honest, the Nexus S IS better than the Nexus One, even if the specs are slightly better, with its slightly better screen, higher quality screen, front facing camera, etc. etc. the only thing I feel the S falls short on is the build quality, its nothing bad but its like with the iPhone, I liked the build quality better on the first gen iphone then the 3G or 3GS.
Unless Palm announces something crazy (Palm fanboy here) I'll probably just stick with the Nexus S, I also have a Droid Pro so I think I should be set for a while.
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So I bought a Nexus S yesterday, earlier today I noticed a co worker of mine had a Nexus 1, I know of them, I mean I've seen them but I never actually held one; I was blown away by the build quality and the trackball is awesome as well. After playing with his phone I started hitting up craigslist to see if I could find one and was seriously considering returning my Nexus S.
I think I'm gonna keep the Nexus S after all but god damn, I'm just shocked that the Nexus S is the Nexus S, I mean, you would think that after the Nexus 1, the phone replacing it would at least have that same style of build quality. oh well, I still like the NS non the less.
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Now you see why many of us love the nexus one so much! CPU and specs aside, the nexus one hardware, build quality, color track ball for any notification you want, materials, size and package, its unmatched even by any current phone out there today! This phone is literally a work of art.
Throw in the car dock and desk dock, it can't be beat. Damn I wish Google went with HTC for the next nexus phone.
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Damn I wish Google went with HTC for the next nexus phone.
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I know it just blows my mind that th folks at Google carried around an HTC N1 for almost a year and then decided that the Nexus S made by Samsung was the way to go...it really does blow my mind every time I think about it. Who in their right mind would make that choice?? I'm still bitter about it...feel as if I was robbed out of an upgrade. Forced to make a choice of crappy build quality with better internals or stick with older internals with better build quality. I'd still like to know what asshole at Google made us face that choice.
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I'd still like to know what asshole at Google made us face that choice.
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Oh cmon MM... tell us how you REALLY feel
It make sense to me at least for Google to keep its various manufacturers happy by spreading the Nexus love. I guess we will have to see who the next Nexus is made by: Motorola? LG?
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Oh cmon MM... tell us how you REALLY feel
It make sense to me at least for Google to keep its various manufacturers happy by spreading the Nexus love. I guess we will have to see who the next Nexus is made by: Motorola? LG?
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I hadn't thought about it in awhile and it kinda hit me again there reading this thread.
I can understand wanting to spread the manufacturer love but Google should have told Samsung that if they wanted the Nexus "2", then they could have it, PROVIDED they built it nicer than their usual crap. Google should have kept a higher standard for the Nexus line and they let Samsung kinda cheapen it in my book.
It's one thing to spread the love and it's another to tell Samsung here are the internals we want and oh you can wrap those internals in whatever you want. I almost think us users are prouder of the N1 than Google, who seemed to give up on it like a step child when it didn't sell as well as they would have liked. Hell we users BEGGED Google to advertise the damn thing....but no, they run a search ad during the Super Bowl LESS THAN A MONTH after the Nexus launched...what kind of sense did that make?? Like Google needed a search ad during the Super Bowl...everyone already uses Google search for god's sake!!!
What is up with Samsung and plastic? I know that they have one phone made of metal, but plastic gets so fingerprint prone.
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Oh cmon MM... tell us how you REALLY feel
It make sense to me at least for Google to keep its various manufacturers happy by spreading the Nexus love. I guess we will have to see who the next Nexus is made by: Motorola? LG?
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I hope it is by Motorola, providing that they don't have a locked bootloader. They actually put dual noise canceling mics on their phone (Droid X), which is probably one of the most important thing on a smartphone.
Yeah, hands up for Nexus One
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Old MuckenMire said:
I hadn't thought about it in awhile and it kinda hit me again there reading this thread.
I can understand wanting to spread the manufacturer love but Google should have told Samsung that if they wanted the Nexus "2", then they could have it, PROVIDED they built it nicer than their usual crap. Google should have kept a higher standard for the Nexus line and they let Samsung kinda cheapen it in my book.
It's one thing to spread the love and it's another to tell Samsung here are the internals we want and oh you can wrap those internals in whatever you want. I almost think us users are prouder of the N1 than Google, who seemed to give up on it like a step child when it didn't sell as well as they would have liked. Hell we users BEGGED Google to advertise the damn thing....but no, they run a search ad during the Super Bowl LESS THAN A MONTH after the Nexus launched...what kind of sense did that make?? Like Google needed a search ad during the Super Bowl...everyone already uses Google search for god's sake!!!
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True that everyone already what the hell business google is about. I was too disappointed the way they advertised the n1
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I think that samsung phones build quality is in general cheap, but lets be honest, they can make phones with nice specs, and then there's those qualcomm chipsets that HTC put in the their phones, they're just awful, which kinda makes you consider buying samsung phones.
This is the exact reason I'm still using my N1 - normally I upgrade as soon as the next best phone is out, but the Nexus is just perfect. The build quality is amazing compared to any samsung phones.
And seriously, I'd miss the trackball too much.
With that said, I have a Galaxy Tab - and think thats great, but I don't carry that with me every day so the cheap plastic doesnt annoy me as much
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I think that samsung phones build quality is in general cheap, but lets be honest, they can make phones with nice specs, and then there's those qualcomm chipsets that HTC put in the their phones, they're just awful, which kinda makes you consider buying samsung phones.
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The snapdragon, even first gen, is not too shabby at all, and it beats the hummingbird in a lot of CPU tests. The advantage of hummingbird is the graphics. In fact, I think the nexus one was better at scrolling smoothly over the nexus s in most cases because graphics was not yet enabled on the S. CPU vs CPU the snapdragon seemed to out perform it imo.
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The snapdragon, even first gen, is not too shabby at all, and it beats the hummingbird in a lot of CPU tests. The advantage of hummingbird is the graphics. In fact, I think the nexus one was better at scrolling smoothly over the nexus s in most cases because graphics was not yet enabled on the S. CPU vs CPU the snapdragon seemed to out perform it imo.
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Well, to be honest I never used a the nexus s, here in Brasil is too expensive to get new devices, I used only the galaxy s, which I think is basically the same device, only in a different housing, and it was pretty fast. I used a Nexus One too, but obviously the roms were different (even though both were using cooked froyo roms) and I know experience may vary, but the galaxy s seemed much faster.
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What is up with Samsung and plastic? I know that they have one phone made of metal, but plastic gets so fingerprint prone.
I hope it is by Motorola, providing that they don't have a locked bootloader. They actually put dual noise canceling mics on their phone (Droid X), which is probably one of the most important thing on a smartphone.
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I'm sorry, but I can't agree with you about that MotoNexus crap. Only US of A can be happy with Motorola customer service and update policy... Ever heared of the Milestone? Yeah, Droid with GSM... Today it can only run stock 2.1 krenel because of MotoPLCY and locked bootloader. Rest of the world is so fcuking tired of hearing their craptalk that they would never buy a Moto device again! Well, Nexus phones are not ONLY American phones.
Also I actually don't like the idea of releasing Nexus devices by different manufacturer each year.. It just doesn't make sense for me. Google is a company not different from others, they count each dollar when it comes to spending money. N1 was a good compromise between cheap and technically good, htc made it that way as they did with desire. So... What's the point? Even if Mofofaila would bulid another Nexus (NX? They seem to like that letter) what would be nest? LG? ok, and then?
P.S. If anything what i wrote is unclear, tell me. It can happen, because english is not my native langueage
EDIT: BUT I agree about those dual mics. They do make a difference for me too!
+1 for dual mics
The call sound quality on the N1 and the Droid X are what attracted me to those two phones. In my opinion, it's a MUST HAVE feature and the single biggest reason I haven't bought a Nexus S.
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I'm sorry, but I can't agree with you about that MotoNexus crap. Only US of A can be happy with Motorola customer service and update policy... Ever heared of the Milestone? Yeah, Droid with GSM... Today it can only run stock 2.1 krenel because of MotoPLCY and locked bootloader. Rest of the world is so fcuking tired of hearing their craptalk that they would never buy a Moto device again! Well, Nexus phones are not ONLY American phones.
Also I actually don't like the idea of releasing Nexus devices by different manufacturer each year.. It just doesn't make sense for me. Google is a company not different from others, they count each dollar when it comes to spending money. N1 was a good compromise between cheap and technically good, htc made it that way as they did with desire. So... What's the point? Even if Mofofaila would bulid another Nexus (NX? They seem to like that letter) what would be nest? LG? ok, and then?
P.S. If anything what i wrote is unclear, tell me. It can happen, because english is not my native langueage
EDIT: BUT I agree about those dual mics. They do make a difference for me too!
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but remember, if Moto is making the next nexus, google will be the one controlling the software, not moto. moto shouldn't be able to lock the bootloader in the next nexus without google saying yes.
HTC to retire QWERTY from its future plans
http://www.phonearena.com/news/HTC-to-retire-QWERTY-from-its-future-plans_id29293
Does it mean we will not get a decent Desire Z successor from HTC?
That would be sad because i like the look and feel of a real hardware keyboard.
And it's much more comfortable compared to a virtual keyboard.
Maybe sony, motorola or lg will build a comparable "successor" for the desire z.
the reason why HTC's qwerty phone recently are not as good as they should because of the quirky hinge mechanism and if you want to bring up HTC Chacha, then it's their screw up because that's a mediocre phone that sucks to begin with.
bring back the HTC Touch Pro type qwerty keyboard and we'll talk.
NOOOOOOO
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I call bull****.
They need a new desire Z-like phone based off the One S!!!
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http://www.concept-phones.com/htc/htc-return-sliding-keyboard/
Nice
This wouldn't surprise me one bit. HTC has been making one stupid decision after the another. The One Series with non removable batteries or storage is extremely flawed thinking. I know they have been struggling lately compared to Samsung, Motorola, etc... But simplifying phones isn't the answer. Making fewer, more higher quality phones sounds good (and is something they should stick with) but not at the cost of losing features to make it 1mm thinner! Who knows with these stupid phone manufacturers though?! They might change their minds/direction again in a few months lol! I don't think they even know what they want! I'm really starting to lose faith in HTC whether this story is true or not.
Almost as if they have caught the Nokia flu then?
Panic, panic and then some panic? Let's hope they don't announce abandoning Android and betting everything on Microsoft and for example thin-thin phones.
Seriously, the hardware keyboard is not on it's way out. No way. When machines can read our minds maybe.
Bought my 2nd DZ (brand new) a few weeks ago , a phone without a physical keyboard isn't an option for me.
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NOOOOOOO
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My thoughts exactly. NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
On a more serious note, I may be wrong but I've noticed that HTC is moving towards a more iPhoneish design of devices. Like the non-removable batteries for example.
This is a tad disappointing to be honest...I always liked HTC because the produced quality phones, like the Touch Pro2 or the Desire Z, but I don't see the same quality with the one Series.
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So this means I will get my new phone from someone else, I love HTC for the things we all know. But I'm not a fanboy, so no qwerty, no HTC. The problem is who... I don't like at all LG and Samsung for different reason (I think I bought the worst optimus one ever sold... And about Samsung, have you read they're about to release S-Cloud........) Motorola could get better with google and the milestones doesn't look bad at all, but google seems to be about to sell its mobile sector and motorola phones have always looked a bit too serious for me.. The desire z was perfect betweem the LG/Samsung qwerty phones thta seemed to be built for kids to break them in a hour and Motorola that looked like business phones...
Hiope they change their mind or it's fake...
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Voila... 98 full qwerty keyboard android devices. A plenty to chose from.
http://www.meetgadget.com/gadget/category/Cell%20Phones/#/gadget/category/Cell Phones/?f[3373]=4764&f[7178][]=9439
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Voila... 98 full qwerty keyboard android devices. A plenty to chose from.
http://www.meetgadget.com/gadget/ca...gory/Cell Phones/?f[3373]=4764&f[7178][]=9439
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I'm not sure if any of those are going to be worthy successors of the DZ. I hope I'm wrong though.
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Voila... 98 full qwerty keyboard android devices. A plenty to chose from.
http://www.meetgadget.com/gadget/category/Cell%20Phones/#/gadget/category/Cell Phones/?f[3373]=4764&f[7178][]=9439
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u do know our dz is the best between all of those...
Two things brought me to HTC - a great keyboard and a greater interface. I love Sense UI and everything in it. I love my Desire Z's keyboard and everything about it.
Too bad. I'll have to choose..
Well, the statement in the article (even if its confirmed) doesn't make any claim to the length of time they are talking about (just "future plans"). If anything, HTC has shown in the past few months that they are willing to change direction quickly in order to compete. May very well only be a present and near future plan. And while this does seem to sink hopes of finding a suitable QWERTY replacement for the Z/G2 anytime soon, I have no doubt that HTC would quickly change this stance at a later time, if they had reason to believe there was good enough demand for phones with hardware keyboards.
As for competitors with QWERTY smartphones, just my opinion that all other manufacturers tend to disappoint me with their build quality. Motorola handsets often look great on paper, and even ok in photos, but always feel like cheap plasticky crap, with clunky keyboards once in hand. Similarly, Samsung and LG continue to feel lower in build quality to most HTC products.
But on that same note, its disappointing to see HTC take the "slimmer, lighter" route with their flagship One X line. Haven't actually held one in hand yet, but I have a feeling the polycarbonate body just isn't going to feel as sturdy as HTC's aluminum body designs. I've read a number complaints about the weight of aluminum body phones, and the popular trend is obviously thinner & lighter. But I actually like to have some heft to the phone. Aluminum body phones just look nicer, and feel more durable than skinny light plastic phones. And I don't understand why people make such a big deal about weight anyway. It doesn't make any difference when its sitting in your pocket. And if you get tired holding something that weighs a few ounces, you should probably exercise more.
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Voila... 98 full qwerty keyboard android devices. A plenty to chose from.
http://www.meetgadget.com/gadget/ca...gory/Cell Phones/?f[3373]=4764&f[7178][]=9439
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There's only two on that list I like....on page 2... the desire z and g2
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I'm afraid H/W Keyboard phones have gotten less popular.
The ones that are out right now don't really compare to the DZ and it doesn't seem like there'll ever be a worthy successor to it. Thus, there will be a lot less users and even less devs on such phones.
I don't know about you guys, but whether I like it or not, I'd easily give up a H/W keyboard for a good and lasting dev scene like ours.
@redpoint I've had the chance to play around with a One X yesterday and I think you stand correct about the build quality. I'd much rather prefer an aluminum body over polycarbonate.
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I'm afraid H/W Keyboard phones have gotten less popular.
The ones that are out right now don't really compare to the DZ and it doesn't seem like there'll ever be a worthy successor to it. Thus, there will be a lot less users and even less devs on such phones.
I don't know about you guys, but whether I like it or not, I'd easily give up a H/W keyboard for a good and lasting dev scene like ours.
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Yep same, I'm thinking of getting the one x in summer... if it doesn't fit in my pocket then the one s. Need a new phone to be honest
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This news saddens me! I've desperately been waiting for HTC to release a new QWERTY phone. I'm not a fanboy, but a sensed up android just feels best.
Now if only Nokia pops out a Lumia QWERTY I'm theirs. Sorry HTC, better luck next time my cell plan let's me pick a new phone
But if that doesn't happen I guess it's the Sony Experia Pro for me. Not a huge upgrade, but a upgrade not the less. Plus it's unrooted users got ICS OTA a while back. I'm still waiting for HTC to show us that same love...
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Ok I know its been a while since I have posted anything inhere but I got a question for you guys:
Why don't we have a codename for our Galaxy S devices like the ones HTC have?
If Samsung is not "smart" enough why not pick one for ourselves?
Example: HTC HD2 is called "LEO", the Touch Pro 2 was called "Rhodium"
Haven't you all struggled when being asked for the name of your phone or how to put it into a sentence "Samsung Galaxy S 3".
Maybe the moderators could put up a poll and pick a name for the phone so we can address it more easily and without the SGS, GS, SSGS etc ...
Cheers!
EDIT: May be we can call the devices named after some space galaxies or some other cosmic ****... just an idea
thug_life_inc said:
Ok I know its been a while since I have posted anything inhere but I got a question for you guys:
Why don't we have a codename for our Galaxy S devices like the ones HTC have?
If Samsung is not "smart" enough why not pick one for ourselves?
Example: HTC HD2 is called "LEO", the Touch Pro 2 was called "Rhodium"
Haven't you all struggled when being asked for the name of your phone or how to put it into a sentence "Samsung Galaxy S 3".
Maybe the moderators could put up a poll and pick a name for the phone so we can address it more easily and without the SGS, GS, SSGS etc ...
Cheers!
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Samsung tends to use a string of letters and numbers to differentiate their devices. I have the T-Mobile variant, also known as, the SGH-T999.
Only HTC "names" their devices. (I have the One X (EndeavorU) and HTC Amaze (Ruby)
Throwing bricks since 2008.....and proud of it.
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Samsung tends to use a string of letters and numbers to differentiate their devices. I have the T-Mobile variant, also known as, the SGH-T999.
Only HTC "names" their devices. (I have the One X (EndeavorU) and HTC Amaze (Ruby)
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@Babydoll25 - I know what Samsung is using for codenames but its dull and borring i9000, i9300 etc ... HTC's approach is much cooler and I think we can pick our own names here at XDA and start using them instead of all the i9300-GT, SGS3 crap.
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@Babydoll25 - I know what Samsung is using for codenames but its dull and borring i9000, i9300 etc ... HTC's approach is much cooler and I think we can pick our own names here at XDA and start using them instead of all the i9300-GT, SGS3 crap.
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Getting everyone to agree upon one name and then ACTUALLY using said name....is well going to be a PITA.
I'm just gonna stick with SGH-T999.
Good Luck with that.
Throwing bricks since 2008.....and proud of it.
But since everyone already knows it by the actual code name, why change it now?
SPH-L710=Sprint
SGH-I747=AT&T
SGH-T999=Tmo
SCH-I535=Verizon
I don't understand what the issue is...
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? IF it makes u feel better cyangoenmods "code name for the t mobile gs3 is d2to..... not much better though l
I remember back at 2012 they said they wouldnt release as much handsets... but low and behold they released alot. I thought it was going to be the HTC One X and One S but no they release alot more varients I think thats what killed them in 2012
rewind a little bit at 2011 and the heck they have alot of phones out in the market. they had no "brand"
I left HTC (i had the amaze) i got sick of the lack of updates and went to the Galaxy Nexus. Now im spoiled with jellybean and possibly the next update this june or november. I might go to Samsung since they try to update their phones in a timely manner
now that the HTC one has risen and decided to focus on the One brand... im thinking about returning to HTC. For one... i miss HTC sense. their widgets is just one of the best in the industry. I didnt need to download more apps on the marketplace. all the widgets i needed was on stock
Im rooting for HTC to get back to be the best manufacturer for sell phones. but please dont churn out phone after phone like samsung did. I dont want to resort to going to samsung
HTC did reduce their lineup in 2012. I don't know what you are talking about. They had the smallest lineup of any (major) phone maker. The HTC X, S, and V. That's it. There were regional variants and a supercharged X+, but there was nothing to dliute or confuse. No clashing products. Each phone was distinctive. Samsung released a million versions of the Galaxy S III in different sizes with different specs. There was a Samsung phone review almost weekly on my goto tech blog. Sony had two or three flagships one after another as well as LG.
I also don't know what you are complaining about really. Samsung and HTC make very different phones. The screens are different. The build is different. The UI is different. All you seem to be concerned about is updates, which frankly I think is silly, especially people complaining about not getting 4.2 when 4.1 is almost exactly the same thing and Android can be hacked and customized with the latest stock if you want. I haven't noticed a change in Android since Froyo 2+ years ago. If you really want the latest updates, your best bet is the LG Nexus 4. No phonemaker's update schedule is gonna be reliable besides a Nexus device and your phone isn't gonna change much even with a new update.
Simply put, the only device that will please you, if you seem to not care about anything else but updates, is the Nexus 4, and whatever the next Nexus will be. So just ignore HTC and Samsung phones altogether. There's nothing to debate about. There is only one phone for you.
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HTC did reduce their lineup in 2012. I don't know what you are talking about. They had the smallest lineup of any (major) phone maker. The HTC X, S, and V. That's it. There were regional variants and a supercharged X+, but there was nothing to dliute or confuse. No clashing products. Each phone was distinctive. Samsung released a million versions of the Galaxy S III in different sizes with different specs. There was a Samsung phone review almost weekly on my goto tech blog. Sony had two or three flagships one after another as well as LG.
I also don't know what you are complaining about really. Samsung and HTC make very different phones. The screens are different. The build is different. The UI is different. All you seem to be concerned about is updates, which frankly I think is silly, especially people complaining about not getting 4.2 when 4.1 is almost exactly the same thing and Android can be hacked and customized with the latest stock if you want. I haven't noticed a change in Android since Froyo 2+ years ago. If you really want the latest updates, your best bet is the LG Nexus 4. No phonemaker's update schedule is gonna be reliable besides a Nexus device and your phone isn't gonna change much even with a new update.
Simply put, the only device that will please you, if you seem to not care about anything else but updates, is the Nexus 4, and whatever the next Nexus will be. So just ignore HTC and Samsung phones altogether. There's nothing to debate about. There is only one phone for you.
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And the XL and the Desire X and the Desire C, Desire V. Let's continue with the Droid Incredible 4G LTE, the HTC EVO 4G LTE, the HTC J and by the end of the year the HTC Butterfly.
Okay to be fair, you mentioned regional variants in addition to the One series - but there was definitely also the Desire series.
However...I agree with you Look at this list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_HTC_phones sort it by release and compare 2012 with 2011. A HUGE improvement. They released WAY less devices and especially they mainly concentrated on two brands: One and Desire. The only thing I didn't like were the regional variants with totally different names. They really have to stop that (look at 2011, it was a huge mess). They need a brand that everybody can remember.
I think a Highend-Midrange line (One Series) and a Midrange-Lowrange line (Desire Series) would be optimal for them. However, they need to produce global variants, no extra sauce for the US this time. And that's exactly what they are doing. In addition, they seem to be concentrating on their absolute high end device first and introduce the lower variants later, not like last year where they released 4 devices at the same time (X, XL, S, V).
But we had the same discussion elsewhere. If the One brand sticks and they are successful, I'm sure they will be sticking to 3-6 devices, which is okay in my opinion.
If you don't think the one x, s, v, +, xl, etc. etc. are confusing, you are mistaken. To the average consumer that is confusing. And yes this is different markets and carriers, but how is HTC supposed to even market a phone that has 12 differing variants of their "flagship"? Lol. I think they've learned, at least I would hope so, I mean look at the Samsung galaxy lol.
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katamari201 said:
I haven't noticed a change in Android since Froyo 2+ years ago
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Yeah OK buddy
itsmarkxd said:
I remember back at 2012 they said they wouldnt release as much handsets... but low and behold they released alot. I thought it was going to be the HTC One X and One S but no they release alot more varients I think thats what killed them in 2012
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Marketing, or lack of it is what kills HTC. All the local phone stores near me are all Apple and Samsung inside. Vodafone opened a bigger revamped store in a shopping centre near me a few months a go and there was at least triple the amount Apple and Samsung stands, demo devices, signs in the store compared to HTC. Even Nokia had more.
At least this year they have the Uefa sponsorship and i read somewhere they have a new marketing guy in so hopefully it will be different this year.
The M7/One is clearly a good design, and does all the right things. It will be sad if it fails because of marketing.
According to Phandroid, HTC will only have one phone for the year of 2013. Article can be found here: http://phandroid.com/2013/02/26/htc-one-flagship/
This is a smart move on HTCs part instead of having multiple versions. Hopefully software updates will come a little quicker because of this move.
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I've been think about this lately. HTC isn't as big as as its competition. If they're going to launch the same unit globally they will need to focus their resources on it to be able to fill orders. Especially if it takes off.
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I really do hope that's the case. I've always thought HTC is mad for releasing so many variants and what not in a short amount of time. Its about time HTC came to its senses (lol). I've been wishing this would happen and cursing HTC for the One line (X,S,V,X+) etc the one S was the better one out of all in my opinion overall but lack of a 32gb model I had to hold on to my sensation for longer. Hopefully the One will change that. Seems good by reviews so far. Let's see
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My question would be:
Is it truly a good thing they only release one device a year? Assuming the M7 is top spec for when it is released (which it is) -what is so wrong with releasing a M7+ at the end of the year with S800?
Why would people get offended or pissed off by this?
Personally I have absolutly no issue. If people want to purchase a M7 body with S800 (or whatever) in 6 months, I don't see a problem so long as its financially feasible for HTC.
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My question would be:
Is it truly a good thing they only release one device a year? Assuming the M7 is top spec for when it is released (which it is) -what is so wrong with releasing a M7+ at the end of the year with S800?
Why would people get offended or pissed off by this?
Personally I have absolutly no issue. If people want to purchase a M7 body with S800 (or whatever) in 6 months, I don't see a problem so long as its financially feasible for HTC.
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People deserve to have the latest smarphone from a particular OEM, for at least an year, and everyone can't buy new device for ~700$ every six months.
As to why this is good news for some people, it is sort of the way your top end automobile companies work (most for that matter).
Whether BMW, Mercedes, Audi, or whatever company: you have an expected timeframe of how long they will keep a car relatively the same without a major facelift (5-7 years). When you purchase an automobile from one of these companies, you know for an x number of years the car won't be different in any major ways (of course there are the yearly upgrades and all, but you guys know what I mean).
Well when you compare that to mobile devices-where it seems (and has really been set by Apple) that many companies give their flagship device a one year span, HTC doesn't. They have been doing refreshes half a year within the release of their flagship devices which makes some people feel like they paid all this money for a device that was outdated by the same company too quickly. Whereas Samsung and Apple have been on a one flagship a year schedule.
For most people who do upgrades and purchase a phone every two years, it is really irrelevant whether there is a refresh later in the year or not. But for others who purchase the devices unlocked and are smartphone addicts, it could lead to you purchasing from another company.
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People deserve to have the latest smarphone from a particular OEM, for at least an year, and everyone can't buy new device for ~700$ every six months.
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But again... why exactly do people need a new device every 6 months...? I still fail to understand this.
Lets say HTC makes a great device for H1. People purchase this device.
They later refresh 6 months later with a superior process (best H2 can offer).
What do the people who purchased the H1 device loose? Perhaps resale value, but other then that, they don't loose anything.
Again, I fail to understand what is wrong with HTCs model. If anything it is BETTER for consumers because it means better tech is being pushed out earlier, and new devices are cheaper, allowing more people access.
The car model isn't a valid comparison imo... The price difference, combined with the fact that between model years- little changes in terms of performance (whereas cell phones will not refresh without a power upgrade) , makes cars and cell phones too dissimilar to compare.
Apple releases 1 device a year because it maxamizes profit. Consumers are stupid enough to believe that this is good for them, which is something I disagree with.
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Ive read rumours before the m7 was announced about a m4 and q2.
So basically m7 high end, m4 middle, g2 low end. (all code names obv)
That to me is the perfect model htc should follow
http://htcsource.com/2013/02/new-images-reveal-a-familiar-looking-htc-m4/
http://htcsource.com/2013/02/htc-m4-and-g2-models-to-follow-the-m7-release/
I think so, this can creat a strong brand
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The one surely is a great device and has lot's of buyers but is it really good to release just one ultra-high-end device for around 600 euros? I don't know many people (except of me and some of my friends) who will pay this much for a phone or would like such a big screen (even if there are phones with bigger screens around) so i think htc should release at least a mid class model with for example a 4" screen and maybe a low class model too..
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The one surely is a great device and has lot's of buyers but is it really good to release just one ultra-high-end device for around 600 euros? I don't know many people (except of me and some of my friends) who will pay this much for a phone or would like such a big screen (even if there are phones with bigger screens around) so i think htc should release at least a mid class model with for example a 4" screen and maybe a low class model too..
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They will release lower/mid end devices for sure. I think they just want to release one HIGHEND device per year.
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What the hell was so confusing about the HTC One family from last year? The flagship was the HTC One X. That was it. That was THE ONE. There was a supercharged one called the X+, but that was sensibly named with an extra +. Much like an iPhone that was 32GB or 64GB. It was still very much the same device. The One S was their midrange. The One V was their low-end. Three different price points, three different sizes. It was never customer confusion that caused HTC to not be as successful. It was just their crappy marketing and crappy availability. Since HTC is undoubtedly going to release lower tier phones besides THE ONE, they will be back in the same position they were in last year, meaning all this THE ONE crap is meaningless.
Samsung has a bajillion phones besides the Galaxy S III of all different sizes and specs that all have the same shiny marble rounded look and it has not hurt them in the least. In fact, the Note II and Ace are one of the highest sellers along with the GS3. The One X, S, and V were wildly more different from each other in looks. It's not a problem of confusion. It's a problem with marketing.
HTC is also driving themselves in a corner without releasing more high-end phones that cater to more corners of the smartphone space. Where is the Note II competitor? What about a small screen phone with high specs? There are plenty of people who think phones are getting to big and would want a smaller phone that has as much power as their bigger brethren. The other rather non-existent niche that no manufacturer is really pushing in the modern era is the cameraphone. Sure Nokia had the 808 Pureview, but that was more fanservice for the dying Symbian platform than anything else. HTC could delve into a competitor for the rumored Lumia EOS device. The area is fresh and fertile with almost no competitors. If they are bold enough to drop out of the megapixel race for "ultrapixels", they should be able to go bolder and say that cameras on phones are crap because the sensors are too small. For a minor bump in thickness, the phone being still very pocketable, you get a real camera! And a phone you can actually hold instead of a sliver of something that looks like it will bend in half.
If HTC can't handle just having one high-end phone, I'm really questioning their competence , considering they are still a multi-billion dollar company. Ideally they are using all the resources to make THE ONE the perfect device with perfect software and perfect hardware testing and perfect everything, dedicating more people to this one device than any other manufacturer would to their own flagships. The more cynical person would also wonder if HTC hadn't had a giant layoff after the poor results in 2012 and have just cut the teams for all the other phones. The easiest way to profitability is to fire your workers.
I think it's a very sensible move
They can focus on providing solid software updates
Nothing annoys people like buying a phone and having them release a slightly better model a few months later or even introducing a new flagship!
Sony have an issue of releasing too many phones and not knowing which is the true flagship, I think they're trying to follow a similar path this year.
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That’s not to say this will be the only high-end HTC smartphone of the year — HTC still has the mid-range sectors to target, as well as a Windows line to promote — but the HTC One will remain at the top of HTC’s totem pole.
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I just watched pocketnow on YouTube and they announced that another windows 8 device will be dropping from HTC this year. I don't think it will be a high end device though.
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HTC is also driving themselves in a corner without releasing more high-end phones that cater to more corners of the smartphone space. Where is the Note II competitor? What about a small screen phone with high specs? There are plenty of people who think phones are getting to big and would want a smaller phone that has as much power as their bigger brethren. The other rather non-existent niche that no manufacturer is really pushing in the modern era is the cameraphone. Sure Nokia had the 808 Pureview, but that was more fanservice for the dying Symbian platform than anything else. HTC could delve into a competitor for the rumored Lumia EOS device. The area is fresh and fertile with almost no competitors. If they are bold enough to drop out of the megapixel race for "ultrapixels", they should be able to go bolder and say that cameras on phones are crap because the sensors are too small. For a minor bump in thickness, the phone being still very pocketable, you get a real camera! And a phone you can actually hold instead of a sliver of something that looks like it will bend in half.
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I'd like that too - but I don't think they could do that now, because they'd be undermining their own marketing of the One if they come out and say "all smartphone cameras are crap - including the one on our flagship phone that it's one of its major selling points".
Veering wildly off-topic , something *I* think there's a niche for is a camera-oriented dumb phone. As it stands, if you want a new phone with an even half-way decent camera, you need to buy a high-end smartphone. There are many people (I suspect) who would love to see a device that is essentially a dedicated digital camera that can, as a secondary function, also send texts and make phone calls (but doesn't do smartphone stuff). There were some old Nokia and Sony Ericsson devices like that - the N93, for example - but no one seems to make them any more. I want a Xenon flash and a proper optical zoom.