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samsung note not worth buying

Dear Friends,
My suggestion is that Samsung Note is not worth buying,
Reasons being
1. EMMC Bug can is not fixed and still they (Samsung) has not even accepted fully that they have this error. they have not addressed that they will be providing the solution or not. So rooting and customization will be hard for general users.
2. Forget about rooting, Still with the stock rom itself Phone reboots may times without any reasons.
3. Software hangs even with Stock rom and only way is to reboot it manually.
4. Very poor Wifi network, frequently turn off and turn on WIFI without any reason.
5. Samsung do not hear the voice of customer. very bad services.
6. especially in Indian type of consumer market buying Samsung Note at the present rate is not worth.
7. No widget for music player, 1X4 or 1X5 Dual Clock.
8. Touch Pen Problems not addressed
9. For the money its not worth with Bug in EMMC.
Never Never Never Buy Samsung Products. untill they are hit with sales they do not hear the customer Voice. One fine day they will also be like Nokia.
Thanks for looking this post
Goodbye to Samsung Notes.
Say Goodbye to Samsung.

prakashraobs said:
Dear Friends,
My suggestion is that Samsung Note is not worth buying,
Reasons being
1. EMMC Bug can is not fixed and still they (Samsung) has not even accepted fully that they have this error. they have not addressed that they will be providing the solution or not. So rooting and customization will be hard for general users.
2. Forget about rooting, Still with the stock rom itself Phone reboots may times without any reasons.
3. Software hangs even with Stock rom and only way is to reboot it manually.
4. Very poor Wifi network, frequently turn off and turn on WIFI without any reason.
5. Samsung do not hear the voice of customer. very bad services.
6. especially in Indian type of consumer market buying Samsung Note at the present rate is not worth.
7. No widget for music player, 1X4 or 1X5 Dual Clock.
8. Touch Pen Problems not addressed
9. For the money its not worth with Bug in EMMC.
Never Never Never Buy Samsung Products. untill they are hit with sales they do not hear the customer Voice. One fine day they will also be like Nokia.
Thanks for looking this post
Goodbye to Samsung Notes.
Say Goodbye to Samsung.
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i don't know...with some custom roms you can fix some of those problems,wifi,the reboots,widgets,touch pen...and with that EMMC bug depends on you if you make wipes on ICS recovery...right now i have on my note Modded Lite AlBa LQ3 Final Stage and it's smooth,stable and fast and i like the size of this phone ...it's a unique phone for the moment

dorinrockeru said:
i don't know...with some custom roms you can fix some of those problems,wifi,the reboots,widgets,touch pen...and with that EMMC bug depends on you if you make wipes on ICS recovery...right now i have on my note Modded Lite AlBa LQ3 Final Stage and it's smooth,stable and fast and i like the size of this phone ...it's a unique phone for the moment
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2 Things that made my Note invincible:
ROM: Kingdroid v3.0
Kernel: Speedmod K3-3
Nuff said.

I'm using my Note for more than half a year, I tried many GB roms stock and custom, all ICS chinease leaks, and now last ICS custom. I never got any of your problems, I did wipe on ALL types of kernels and firmwares for Note. Never got any bricks.
You've just got factory marriage Note. Go to service center and change it for normal. Or maybe you just unskilled noob and deceiving here.
You right only with 5 point. But it's not only with Samsung. Almost all manufactors are the same, they really love money.

mmorabe said:
2 Things that made my Note invincible:
ROM: Kingdroid v3.0
Kernel: Speedmod K3-3
Nuff said.
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i was on kindroid v3.0 and i don't like it,some times was laggy,change the kernel and same thing...change vith cryskelo and same thing,about a week i use Modded Lite AlBa LQ3 Final Stage and its greath:good:

my note is still yet to arrive but from what i've heard there are also issues with echoing (person you are talking to hears their own voice) as well as severe black crush/clipping issues with video playback.

I have zero issues with my note (running RocketROM v7). As a matter a fact my buddy just received his GsIII (at&t) today and after comparing the two very closely the SIII is not much better. He even said that if he could have bought a n7000 through at&t and set it up like mine he would have much rather had the Note. Mine Note is just as fast and smooth as his SIII in every way with better functionality due to the custom rom provided by eybee1970! This is just my experience....
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Dear friends/ Samsung lovers
No doubt there are many phones out with the better features with Bug free. paying few more $$ or euros. So my suggestion is that better go with SGN or HTC one X rather than going to SGN. As Android is an open source, and customization is what Google has given more Importance for which it is at top place compared to the Iphone.
Having bug free phones is what we need to select rather than falling in pit to the buggy phone.
finally its all up to you to take the decision. I hope all will take the better decision. If you think rooting itself an sin or always working on the defective phone then their is no meaning in paying so much to this Phone at least.
Goodbye SamsungNotes.

Never once has my Note hanged in stock rom or custom roms, Its just a amazing feeling to have a note in your hand

prakashraobs said:
Dear Friends,
My suggestion is that Samsung Note is not worth buying,
Reasons being
1. EMMC Bug can is not fixed and still they (Samsung) has not even accepted fully that they have this error. they have not addressed that they will be providing the solution or not. So rooting and customization will be hard for general users.
2. Forget about rooting, Still with the stock rom itself Phone reboots may times without any reasons.
3. Software hangs even with Stock rom and only way is to reboot it manually.
4. Very poor Wifi network, frequently turn off and turn on WIFI without any reason.
5. Samsung do not hear the voice of customer. very bad services.
6. especially in Indian type of consumer market buying Samsung Note at the present rate is not worth.
7. No widget for music player, 1X4 or 1X5 Dual Clock.
8. Touch Pen Problems not addressed
9. For the money its not worth with Bug in EMMC.
Never Never Never Buy Samsung Products. untill they are hit with sales they do not hear the customer Voice. One fine day they will also be like Nokia.
Thanks for looking this post
Goodbye to Samsung Notes.
Say Goodbye to Samsung.
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Hmm...No. The Note is fine. If you don't like it, then you simply don't buy one. Again, to reiterate:
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Pretty sure threads like these are unecessary.

The first thing before I bought the Note was, I borrowed the Note from a friend and put it in my shirt's pocket. The Note cooly sat there. That is it. I bought it.I cant carry a tablet, where ever I go. It is the size of the Note that keeps the members of the Forum together. You can call the Note- a phone, or a tablet or computer or even a Note. It could become a perfect computer, could it accomodate 128Gb sd card. Nothing beats a Note.

Had a note for last 2 months, update to official ICS Rom and i had no problem whatsoever,, except the USB wake lock which is solved easily by rebooting the phone after connecting charger or usb. Working perfectly and i love it.:good:

Nokia has great customer service. They just made some very bad decisions, manufactured hundred phone models that were basically identical and were left behind on smartphone field which basically landed a decisive hit on them. And now with Windows Phone they might just die... don't get me wrong, i love Windows Phone, but sales are not that good, and even though Lumia was the fastest selling Nokia device, they are still in deep crisis. Anyway, wish the best for Nokia, hope they'll recover.
As for the list you provided...ok, with the eMMC bug i agree, but i shouldn't buy Samsung device because there is no music widget ( with literally thousands of free apps on the market ) ? You serious ?
And i don't really care about their customer service... no customer service really cares - good service pretends that they do, but they never did and never will, wake up...

0 issues with my Note, The brickbug is a put off, but theres a fix for it.
you find me an issue that doesnt have a fix and il agree with you !!
you cant open a thread like this and disrespect the Note infront of 1000's of Note users, If you dont like it, thats fine, get something else.
But slating it like you did is really going to put people off wanting to get this phone, The phone is awesome, Development kicks ass.
You probably dont deserve the Note anyway, Theres a million solutions to your problems, surely if you did a bit of research you'd find one.

<3 haters.
I had issues with my Note when I updated with the OTA ICS update. Kept crashing and such, even from a clean Gingerbread. So I reverted back to Gingerbread for the minute until the ICS release matures a little. You will get this with virtually every major new release of the phone FW.
It does not detract from the fact this is a superb phone and I won't change it for anything at the minute.

i suppose every1 has their own likings
so mabbe u meant note isnt worth buying for yourself
bt i think 10 million other ppl dont share th same opinion :cyclops:
its ur choice good luck with tht

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I'm pretty happy with my galaxy note, there were no problems when I was UN rooted with GB. Tried several GB roms, kernels etc after rooting with no problems. Shifted to ICS, with LP1 repack, emmc bug news broke out. Shifted safely to aosp roms without problems. Now using touch wiz based roms and very happy with it.
Excellent battery life.
Non existent lag.
Awesome roms available.
Good developer support.
Basically it's a fine device, learn to do stuff with it after reading on xda. Enjoy your purchase.
Sent from the Awesomus Maximus Galaxy Note

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OPPO Find 5

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What do you guys think of the new Chinese phone that supports USA carriers?
You can view the specs here:
http://en.oppo.com/product/find5/
http://www.oppousa.com/
It's about the size of the Droid DNA, but better. I'm actually thinking of getting this. Doesn't have SD Card but has 16GB and 32GB Version! Great price, and a premium product.

Bad thing is......you have to buy it via western union and/or wire transfer. They do accept Paypal over $300. They sent me this:
For avoid credit card fraud,we don't accept payments for product 300$ or more by Paypal or by credit cards. payments for product 300$ or more must be paid by bank transfer or Western Union MoneyGram. For more information,please visit : http://www.fastcardtech.com/article-9-Payment+Methods.html
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Interesting phone! Looks sorta like a Optimus L9.

SovereignKnight said:
Interesting phone! Looks sorta like a Optimus L9.
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Yeah it does! But the renders of this makes the phone looks huge when in reality its about the size of the DNA. I can't wait till Next Wednesday when they talk about it at one of the Beijing events.

It indeed has an SD slot and MHL, and everything else you would need) http://opposj.zol.com.cn/163/1673_1620749.html
Remember-remember the 12th of December
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Also as far as I checked fastcardtech.com is a FRAUD. I would not recommend anyone to use them. It's better to wait for a decent US release and find a relative in Sales TAX Free state OR use some well known taobao middlemen.

looks good on the paper
Looks good on the paper. 1080p for a phone is an overkill if you ask me with today's battery technology. I bet this phone has major draws.

I would consider it if the power button were on the side, I almost never use two hands with my phone and this would annoy me to no end.
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The only thing which bothers me, as a previous Tab 7.7 owner, the lack of software support, I may even sacrifice some hardware stuff for better official or xda community support potential. As far as I see it now the DNA, a major brand product, is nowhere near the Nexus devices in all the development and ROM hacking fuss. Oppo is moving to the global market, thus the good software support is implied but yet to be confirmed.

Actually, the size of the OPPO Find 5 is nowhere near the gargantuan HTC DNA despite sporting the same size screen thanks to an edge-to-edge screen and minimal wasted space at the top and bottom:
HTC DNA: 141 x 70.5 x 9.7 mm (5.55 x 2.78 x 0.38 in)
Oppo Find 5: 129 x 65 x 6.9 mm (5.08 x 2.56 x 0.27 in) <---smaller than HTC One S
The key here is the middle number, at 65 mm wide, it will be VERY easy to do one handed operations. This is a huge HUGE attraction for me as I'm sick of all these phlabets/phlaptops that HTC, Samsung, LG, and others are producing. Increasing screen size is one thing, but the phones are getting so enormous that it becomes very uncomfortable to use. It's ridiculous.

BAD_BOY_KIEV said:
It indeed has an SD slot and MHL, and everything else you would need) http://opposj.zol.com.cn/163/1673_1620749.html
Remember-remember the 12th of December
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Also as far as I checked fastcardtech.com is a FRAUD. I would not recommend anyone to use them. It's better to wait for a decent US release and find a relative in Sales TAX Free state OR use some well known taobao middlemen.
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Yess!! The 12th of December!!! I'm excited for that. And thanks for clearing that up, I kind of figured but it's good to have a second opinion.
cocinci said:
Looks good on the paper. 1080p for a phone is an overkill if you ask me with today's battery technology. I bet this phone has major draws.
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2500 MaH on a IPS display....it's really on how much you use your phone, because IPS is good on battery consumption, I think.
dave_k605 said:
I would consider it if the power button were on the side, I almost never use two hands with my phone and this would annoy me to no end.
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Just rechecked photo's, and well I don't find it a big deal. I've used the HD2, LG G2x, and HTC Sensation so if I get this phone it wouldn't be a big change.
BAD_BOY_KIEV said:
The only thing which bothers me, as a previous Tab 7.7 owner, the lack of software support, I may even sacrifice some hardware stuff for better official or xda community support potential. As far as I see it now the DNA, a major brand product, is nowhere near the Nexus devices in all the development and ROM hacking fuss. Oppo is moving to the global market, thus the good software support is implied but yet to be confirmed.
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Yeah that's what I'm thinking. Since this phone is supporting US Carriers with a breeze, will there be XDA Dev willing to work on this phone? That would also be a plus when getting this pone.
boojay said:
Actually, the size of the OPPO Find 5 is nowhere near the gargantuan HTC DNA despite sporting the same size screen thanks to an edge-to-edge screen and minimal wasted space at the top and bottom:
HTC DNA: 141 x 70.5 x 9.7 mm (5.55 x 2.78 x 0.38 in)
Oppo Find 5: 129 x 65 x 6.9 mm (5.08 x 2.56 x 0.27 in) <---smaller than HTC One S
The key here is the middle number, at 65 mm wide, it will be VERY easy to do one handed operations. This is a huge HUGE attraction for me as I'm sick of all these phlabets/phlaptops that HTC, Samsung, LG, and others are producing. Increasing screen size is one thing, but the phones are getting so enormous that it becomes very uncomfortable to use. It's ridiculous.
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Whoaahh! Didn't know it was smaller than the OneS! But I knew it was about the size of the DNA. Thanks for doing the conversion!!
The thing I hate, and the LG G2x/O2x did this, was the hardware keys. Why so big? But your right, phones are getting bigger, and bigger is only good for people with big hands. Medium size hands like phones in the range of 4 - 4.7 inches. The DNA did it right by making it longer instead of wider, and I'm glad Oppo is understanding that. Hopefully the S4 and new upcoming phones get it. Keep the big phone size to the Note's.

BAD_BOY_KIEV said:
It indeed has an SD slot and MHL, and everything else you would need) http://opposj.zol.com.cn/163/1673_1620749.html
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These specs are for a different phone mate.. it clearly states that it refers to a 4.5 inch phone with 720p screen... The dimensions are still impressive to be sure but nowhere near to what a 5 inch would be if they were able to fit it in just 65mm of width. It would imply a total absence of bezel as in *nil*, I don't think such a tech exists yet, true edge to edge is a decade away I'm afraid. I'd be happy to be proved wrong though...
BTW same applies on the existence of micro SD slot, it probably doesn't have one, at least the company doesn't hint that anywhere (sadly microsd slots seem to go the way of the dodo)...
So to recap, "hold on your horses", it'd probably be a thinner slightly cheaper DNA and given that it is a chinaphone I don't think many would be convinced... it's a good offering to be sure but nothing groundbreaking... again I hope to be proved wrong, if I do I would be the first in line to buy this phone (hate phablet sizes, love big screens and big memories)...

I updated the OP. It does not have SD Card but has 16GB and 32GB version! I am thinking of getting this phone

best alternative to nexus 4(?

PontiacGTX said:
best alternative to nexus 4(?
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DEFIANTLY!! The best alternative!! But if you're on AT&T, sorry no LTE

Best? I wouldn't say that at all.
I'm sure from a development state, this device will be lacking heavily. And anything non pure Google.....goog luck with the manufactures keeping you up to date.
Sounds like a sweet device, but it'd still take my gs3 over this all day long.
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dave_k605 said:
Best? I wouldn't say that at all.
I'm sure from a development state, this device will be lacking heavily. And anything non pure Google.....goog luck with the manufactures keeping you up to date.
Sounds like a sweet device, but it'd still take my gs3 over this all day long.
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Well, well my friend, assuming is not good. If you go to oppo's forum they are very well up to date, and current than GS3. They are pure google with little customization to not run it down. Idk about Samsung but 4.2 on Oppo devices are coming in Mid Jan. ALSO I don't know about when a new version of android is coming about but when it does Oppo will surely have it out in 2-3 months tops.
So from a development state, Samsung lacks it heavily, and Samsung lacks pure google. Good luck waiting years on Samsung getting you updates that takes years to update

richie390 said:
Well, well my friend, assuming is not good. If you go to oppo's forum they are very well up to date, and current than GS3. They are pure google with little customization to not run it down. Idk about Samsung but 4.2 on Oppo devices are coming in Mid Jan. ALSO I don't know about when a new version of android is coming about but when it does Oppo will surely have it out in 2-3 months tops.
So from a development state, Samsung lacks it heavily, and Samsung lacks pure google. Good luck waiting years on Samsung getting you updates that takes years to update
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My Verizon galaxy s3 is on 4.2 cm.
I've never had a issue having lots of roms top choose from south any Samsung devices I've had.
I'm saying is I'm not sure the oppo week have much of a following here in the states, if it does it will never have the backing that my gs3 does.
You cannot deny that.
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dave_k605 said:
My Verizon galaxy s3 is on 4.2 cm.
I've never had a issue having lots of roms top choose from south any Samsung devices I've had.
I'm saying is I'm not sure the oppo week have much of a following here in the states, if it does it will never have the backing that my gs3 does.
You cannot deny that.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD
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This is actually the first Oppo device heading to the United States support T-Mobile, AT&T, and Simple Mobile. It won't get the over rated advertisement like the GS3, but it is definitely a better phone, in my opinion. Official Software updates, better camera, fast, premium product, NFC.
I have nothing against the GS3 besides the width of it, and the material of the phone is plastic. Otherwise its a great phone. But hopefully XDA will have some ROM support on this phone as its coming to the United States.

richie390 said:
This is actually the first Oppo device heading to the United States support T-Mobile, AT&T, and Simple Mobile. It won't get the over rated advertisement like the GS3, but it is definitely a better phone, in my opinion. Official Software updates, better camera, fast, premium product, NFC.
I have nothing against the GS3 besides the width of it, and the material of the phone is plastic. Otherwise its a great phone. But hopefully XDA will have some ROM support on this phone as its coming to the United States.
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Yes a nicer material would be nice, but we all seem to use cases made out of the same material to protect our investment.....so no need to waste extra money on finer materials to cover them up. Nice materials such as glass/aluminum are not add strong or resilient to damage.
I also am not bashing the oppo, seems like a nice phone and the more high end devices, we all win. I'm an android guy, I'm not band stuck, however I'm drawn to Samsung's...HTC is also nice, but on big red they haven't brought anything to the table I would rather have than my gs3. That being said if Verizon would have had the one x I'm not sure which way I would have gone......really nice phone!
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dave_k605 said:
Yes a nicer material would be nice, but we all seem to use cases made out of the same material to protect our investment.....so no need to waste extra money on finer materials to cover them up. Nice materials such as glass/aluminum are not add strong or resilient to damage.
I also am not bashing the oppo, seems like a nice phone and the more high end devices, we all win. I'm an android guy, I'm not band stuck, however I'm drawn to Samsung's...HTC is also nice, but on big red they haven't brought anything to the table I would rather have than my gs3. That being said if Verizon would have had the one x I'm not sure which way I would have gone......really nice phone!
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You made a good point about protecting the investment. But we're just gonna have to wait and see how this Chinese phone makes a impact on how the US will accept this
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Why should I purchase Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 ?

The new device we already know - Redmi Note 3 - has just been released in new product launch event.
Why should I purchase redmi note 3 ?
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Now, let's check out some hands-on pictures of this beautiful phone.

nice comparison, it seems it will be killer of RAM 3GB Octa core smartphone in view of specs and appearance.

Nice phone. I like it
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Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Unboxing & Hands-on: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tN8WWa2V5Q

Send a mail to Hugo and Xiaomi officials ask them about kernel sources,
If they refuse to release it don't buy it.
Without sources mediatek devices are pathetic, Xiaomi Redmi Note is still stuck with buggy KitKat, and will stuck forever, same will happen with you.
So ensure sources, without sources even xda will not help.
Best of luck !!

vellamo said:
Send a mail to Hugo and Xiaomi officials ask them about kernel sources,
If they refuse to release it don't buy it.
Without sources mediatek devices are pathetic, Xiaomi Redmi Note is still stuck with buggy KitKat, and will stuck forever, same will happen with you.
So ensure sources, without sources even xda will not help.
Best of luck !!
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Actually the kernel source was released
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mei...elio-x10-kernel-source-code-released-t3225886

Distell said:
Actually the kernel source was released
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mei...elio-x10-kernel-source-code-released-t3225886
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This is not for Redmi Note 3, every device has diff hw although CPU is same , s you need your drivers from Xiaomi.
Ask Xiaomi for source, and they will not provide.
Don't fall in Xiaomi's trap.

rockydracer said:
This is not for Redmi Note 3, every device has diff hw although CPU is same , s you need your drivers from Xiaomi.
Ask Xiaomi for source, and they will not provide.
Don't fall in Xiaomi's trap.
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So whats the trap.
Get a good device for 200 bugs? Okay it would be better with all thedriver sources released but it is Kind of a flGship killer.
AMD what you expect for that price. A device that beats the crap out of an IPhone 6s?
I need a new Smartphone ( my nexus 5 fell into the water, it still works but slowly dies) and you dont get a better bang for the buck right now. And I think we will get the driver source soon.

Distell said:
So whats the trap.
Get a good device for 200 bugs? Okay it would be better with all thedriver sources released but it is Kind of a flGship killer.
AMD what you expect for that price. A device that beats the crap out of an IPhone 6s?
I need a new Smartphone ( my nexus 5 fell into the water, it still works but slowly dies) and you dont get a better bang for the buck right now. And I think we will get the driver source soon.
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This is mediatek buddy,..
Xiaomi is known for excellent hw with poor sw , check Mi pad 1, an awesome hw with very very poor sw without kernel sources, gives very poor performance and Xiaomi do not care.
Same will happen with you too.
Sent from my HM NOTE 1W

Here is mine first hands on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-ByyXnUoE4
In next week i will post a full review

rockydracer said:
This is not for Redmi Note 3, every device has diff hw although CPU is same , s you need your drivers from Xiaomi.
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Yep, but the release from MTK makes it possible for Xiaomi to update the OS to Marshmallow and that is very good news.
Kind regards

My full in depth review of Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 i hope you enjoy it ...

donmarkon said:
My full in depth review of Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 i hope you enjoy it ...
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Thanks for a nice review! Have you tested the wifi and gps? Also interested on your opinion regarding the built in microphone and speaker.
Kind regards

Ormbett said:
Thanks for a nice review! Have you tested the wifi and gps? Also interested on your opinion regarding the built in microphone and speaker.
Kind regards
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Yep! I exluded it from review because i considered that there is nothing to say because everything was working as it should, it supports standard gps and glonass so it lock on fast ... About in call sound everybody could hear me good enough so there where no problems at all ...Speaker is fine nothing special ... I did answer on i guess your post on youtube but i will also add it here for others

donmarkon said:
Yep! I exluded it from review because i considered that there is nothing to say because everything was working as it should, it supports standard gps and glonass so it lock on fast ... About in call sound everybody could hear me good enough so there where no problems at all ...Speaker is fine nothing special ... I did answer on i guess your post on youtube but i will also add it here for others
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Thanks for quick answer! I have ordered the golden 32GB version and looking forward to get my hands on it.
Kind regards

Ormbett said:
Thanks for quick answer! I have ordered the golden 32GB version and looking forward to get my hands on it.
Kind regards
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You won't be disappointed

Hi, (gold, 32gb, redmi note3 5.0.2,MIUI7
MUI 77.0.11.0 215 EURO with shiping)
I will try to give you my feedback, it's my own personal view of the redmi note 3, first some background:
I'm a tech guy, i started using android with one of the first HTC Desire Bravo, i used to root my phones, flash roms, try, optimise as much as possible.
I have brought this phone for my wife, who had previously two Samsung S4, since redmi note3 is dual SIM, it work out quite nice.
I own a Samsung Note 4 , and i will compare the redmi note3 32gb fairly.
the phone costed me 215EUR, it's a flagship, and for that price it's very cheap!
the phone look beautiful, it has an aluminium body, the finition is perfect, the gold (champagne) color is very nice. the aluminium body is very sleepery.
it lack a SD card, which will force you to take the 32gb model (hello 2016)
battery is non removable, but it's more than 4000mAH, it hold with 2 sim cards and full backlight a full day
LCD would be rated 4.5/5 , not the best quality, but almost.
NO Screen protection, honestly if your phone is falling from time to time, do not buy this phone, the LCD will die, buy a housing to get some grip.
the phone is fast for normal apps, messengers, Instagram, phone apps (dialler, phone-book, calendar)
The camera is 13MB pixel in 4/3 format, it's a 10MB pixel in 16/9 format, the camera is not really good, btw i don't understand why xiaomi doesn't set the camera immediately for best quality, you had to go and set both camera by yourself.
same for front camera, not really good, it's a 5MB at 4/3 format, and 3MB on 16/9.
MUI work good, it's fast, some notifications from time to time never appear, i didn't figure out why yet.
Honestly for me that a great phone, because i don't care about the camera and i use my phone for work, but since it's for my wife, she like to do pictures, selfies, and that phone is no good at that point, her old Samsung S4 is doing much better pictures, and that is kinda the deal breaker.
I would recommend this phone to people who don't care about the cameras, it's cheap, look crazy nice, DUAL SIMS.
IF you like to take pictures of any kind, don't waste your time, it is no good.
IF your phone is likely to fall, avoid it, no screen protection, or at least buy some housing.
I like MUI btw, my gf doesn't like it to much, but she doing better every day.
The charger is trash, it's a 0.35mAH, it charge 5% per hour LOL, never seen worse, get your old charger back, or buy a new one immediately.
I forgot to say in my review that the phone is not rooted, but there is a app .apk that root the device in 2min easy and friendly(it''s in chiness, but keep hitting the green button),
Best regards guys!
(hit the thanks button if you like it)

Lisendra said:
IF you like to take pictures of any kind, don't waste your time, it is no good.
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Thanks for sharing your first impressions! I dont know which rom you are using but I know that other people reporting camera improvements with the latest rom.
Kind regards

Miui7
mui 77.0.11.0

Hi,
i have got my note 3 before christmass. With the same ROM 77.0.11.0 as Lisendra. Got it in a GDA for 199€ with DHL shipping, cover and tempered glass screen protection.
The "original" rom had some bugs, I was unable to sincronize the contacts from gmail etc.
A guy on italian forum helped me with a hint about a custom ROM, the first one was a developer, the second one latest stable 7.0.22.0
It doesnt support OTA, so you have to use flashtool, but the flashing is pretty easy, it comes with ROOT and it is cleaned from the scrap chinese apps.
[ROM] [Stable] SphinX V1d - MIUI7 V7.0.22.0 Global, Multi Language, SuperSU
Since I installed that one, the phone does greatly. There are already guides to unlock bootloader, but to instal this ROM you dont need to do so.
For that money it is really a great phone. My old Galaxy S3 seems to be a toy, compared to this. Signal reception is very good (althought LTE band 20 is missing, so i dont have LTE where I live, but in the towns downhill it works pretty good in LTE). GPS (gps, glonass and the chinese satelites) locks really fast.
With 1 SIM the phone is able to work for 2 full days (until the evening of the second day - with the screen ON for about 5 hours).
After 2 weeks of experience, I would buy it again.

Do you recommend buying pro 5 now?

Hello, since a lot of you have had experience with the pro 5 i wanna make you the question: is a good idea to buy it now? would be my first meizu and it costs 417 bucks for the 4gb ram 64gb rom on ibuygou.com i found it trustful and they assure me they will ship it with original rom in factory sealed box without being opened for any reason.
Based on your experience, did you regret buying it for some reason? (for example, i have read about some problems with home button)
My other options are:
xiaomi mi max 4gb ram, 128 gb rom
xiaomi redmi pro 4GB ram, 128 rom and helio X25.
I'm not interested in unlock the bootloader or flash roms so that's not an issue for me. the battery life, memory expansion, good camera, fast chipset and big screen are important to me and that's why i didn't consider other options like OP3 or MI5.
I would like to buy it because it practically doesn't have any weakness on paper, but first i will listen to your suggestions.

Hello,
Yes I think the Meizu PRO 5 continues to be a very good choice. Its assembly is perfect, mTouch is very fast, camera delivers very good shots (manly when light's good), software is very smooth, and it's beautiful...
I tried a Samsung Galaxy S7 (normal) for 4 days, and I come back to the PRO 5 (better battery life, better audio, bigger screen).

luisfigueira said:
Hello,
Yes I think the Meizu PRO 5 continues to be a very good choice. Its assembly is perfect, mTouch is very fast, camera delivers very good shots (manly when light's good), software is very smooth, and it's beautiful...
I tried a Samsung Galaxy S7 (normal) for 4 days, and I come back to the PRO 5 (better battery life, better audio, bigger screen).
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Thank you for your response. do you have any issues with software? i have been told about numerous bugs and software issues people had with the pro 5

onexperia said:
Thank you for your response. do you have any issues with software? i have been told about numerous bugs and software issues people had with the pro 5
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No I don't.
When you start (first use or clean install) you'll probably notice that notifications come with a delay. This is because software is made to get the best battery life. But you can "repair" it easly (it's only a parameter to change).
Otherwise the software is very accurate. Incredible smooth (thanks to the Exynos and Full HD screen). Initially I installed a third launcher (Google Launcher) but actually (some months ago to be honest) I run on Flyme OS launcher (no applications drawer). But if you prefer a drawer, you can always install a launcher.
Regarding to the MEIZU apps (clock, calendar, notes, calculator, etc.) I prefer use Google Apps (you can find all of them on Play Store). So I can't evaluate Meizu apps.
I use bluetooth (in my car) and there's nothing to say about. Works nice.
What I'm waiting is a firmware on Android Marshmallow (maybe Nougat...).
Here's my experience, the PRO5 is my 2nd meizu phone (the first was the M2 Note), I'm very happy with it.

luisfigueira said:
No I don't.
When you start (first use or clean install) you'll probably notice that notifications come with a delay. This is because software is made to get the best battery life. But you can "repair" it easly (it's only a parameter to change).
Otherwise the software is very accurate. Incredible smooth (thanks to the Exynos and Full HD screen). Initially I installed a third launcher (Google Launcher) but actually (some months ago to be honest) I run on Flyme OS launcher (no applications drawer). But if you prefer a drawer, you can always install a launcher.
Regarding to the MEIZU apps (clock, calendar, notes, calculator, etc.) I prefer use Google Apps (you can find all of them on Play Store). So I can't evaluate Meizu apps.
I use bluetooth (in my car) and there's nothing to say about. Works nice.
What I'm waiting is a firmware on Android Marshmallow (maybe Nougat...).
Here's my experience, the PRO5 is my 2nd meizu phone (the first was the M2 Note), I'm very happy with it.
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Thank you for answering, i hope they release marshmallow or nougat frimware!! this is still a recent phone.

For those willing to unlock it:
I would avoid any Meizu product! There are so many other alternatives out there. Although it has a good hardware, they are really dicks when it comes to software. If you choose to update you ROM with an alternative one and it fails, or if in any other way your recovery fails on you... Your phone is bricked! And forget any kind of support from Meizu.
There are many other alternatives out there where the company allows you to unlock the bootloader and do whatever you want. And in case something fails, there is a way to fix things yourself. But not with Meizu.
Stay away from Meizu products!

DarginMahkum said:
For those willing to unlock it:
I would avoid any Meizu product! There are so many other alternatives out there. Although it has a good hardware, they are really dicks when it comes to software. If you choose to update you ROM with an alternative one and it fails, or if in any other way your recovery fails on you... Your phone is bricked! And forget any kind of support from Meizu.
There are many other alternatives out there where the company allows you to unlock the bootloader and do whatever you want. And in case something fails, there is a way to fix things yourself. But not with Meizu.
Stay away from Meizu products!
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I'm not agree.
I unlocked my bootloader, I made many mistakes (lost recovery, for example) and every time I managed to get it back, without problems !
Your chances of bricking a Meizu are the same that for another brand (Samsung, Xiaomi, etc.).

luisfigueira said:
I'm not agree.
I unlocked my bootloader, I made many mistakes (lost recovery, for example) and every time I managed to get it back, without problems !
Your chances of bricking a Meizu are the same that for another brand (Samsung, Xiaomi, etc.).
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Then you can help the people that have lost their recovery and left with a locked bootloader - I am also one of them. And yet there is no way to unlock the bootloader again over fastboot or anything. For many other brands, you have Odin, for example, or unlocking the bootloader is much easier, like with Sony, also now with ZTE. At least, these are the ones I am aware of.

Great phone, can recommend
I have a Pro 5 which I've owned for around 9 months now. The phone is really good. Too notch hardware, great build quallity, an all purpose hardware button with a decent fingerprint scanner and excellent battery life (Can play Pokemon GO for around 3-3.5 hours on a charge). I've had surprisingly good experience with Flyme 5, it's very stable and performed well through out all of my time with it (Unlike some Samsung and LG phones that chug after a month). The stock apps and launcher seem to work very well for me, the only one I replaced was the Keyboard. Can't comment too much about the camera, since I barely use it, but from what I saw it takes reasonable shots. The only big downsides are that the fingerprint scanner isn't always reliable (has times where it can't recognize my finger at all) and that the phone gets very hot while charging or playing heavy games (especially when I do both, and the phone throttles, making the experience unplayable) - maybe it's just what you get with a 30+C summer and an aluminium body. I also had a wierd issue with the button, where it got "stuck" a bit.

Maybe it's too late and you already bought it.
I DON'T recomend this device for everyone.
The software (Flyme) is a good piece of crap. They say it will never be a Marsmallow update, they'll jump right to Nougat (in 1 or 2 years probably), and I quite sure that Pro 5 will never get this update.
Flyme has a lot a bugs, some of them quite annoying (RIL appear to be unstable, you lose 3G connectivity lots of times, I have used LTE successfully a couple of times...). It doesn't support Viper4Android.
The chinese version of OS it really restrictive. So I had lots of problem receiving notifications. Global version works taking proper measures.
When you are doing not buggy things it is very fluid, though.
Getting a custom recovery is a pain in the neck.
Currently there are no good alternatives to Flyme. I'm waiting for CM13 Resurrection Remix to be daily usable.
I don't know if it is better on Ubuntu. But I don't think that Ubuntu is good for everyday use.
The hardware is amazing.
The combination of DAC and Amp is really good. Thought I miss V4A.
The camera is good, I say can't say more cause I don't know much about photography.
The processor is more powerful than I need.
3 GB of RAM are more than enough for me.
I love the 5,7" AMOLED screen.
The battery duration is acceptable. You have a full day of use in normal conditions.
The fast charge is very good. But it's incompatible with other brands fast charge. So forget about fast charging in your car.
I think it's all.
I'm quite happy with my phone. But I'm audiophile, I use it mainly for playing music.
So, given that, I think you can decide if it's worth paying that much for this thing or not.
I hope this may help you.
Also, I'm starting to hate Meizu. They do awful things with Flyme.
English is not my mother tongue, clearly, so, sorry.

markos365 said:
Maybe it's too late and you already bought it.
I DON'T recomend this device for everyone.
The software (Flyme) is a good piece of crap. They say it will never be a Marsmallow update, they'll jump right to Nougat (in 1 or 2 years probably), and I quite sure that Pro 5 will never get this update.
Flyme has a lot a bugs, some of them quite annoying (RIL appear to be unstable, you lose 3G connectivity lots of times, I have used LTE successfully a couple of times...). It doesn't support Viper4Android.
The combination of DAC and Amp is really good. Thought I miss V4A.
The fast charge is very good. But it's incompatible with other brands fast charge. So forget about fast charging in your car.
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No more Meizu phones for me. Fortunately LG has just released the V20 to make us the audiophiles happy. Though I quite liked the SQ of Pro5, the stupid apple-wanna-be mentality of Meizu (including the bootloader lock) makes this phone a piece of crap. My bank account was locked because of the [email protected]!ty FlyMeOS, as I was not receiving my online banking codes via SMS - they were lost in space! A phone SW that cannot receive SMSs in year 2016 is simply not acceptable.
I will grab a V20 and stick with LG from now on (yes, I dislike Samsung very much).
Cheers

DarginMahkum said:
No more Meizu phones for me. Fortunately LG has just released the V20 to make us the audiophiles happy. Though I quite liked the SQ of Pro5, the stupid apple-wanna-be mentality of Meizu (including the bootloader lock) makes this phone a piece of crap. My bank account was locked because of the [email protected]!ty FlyMeOS, as I was not receiving my online banking codes via SMS - they were lost in space! A phone SW that cannot receive SMSs in year 2016 is simply not acceptable.
I will grab a V20 and stick with LG from now on (yes, I dislike Samsung very much).
Cheers
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I agree.
Samsung sucks.
Meizu sucks.
And, in my opinion, the fact that you have to buy high end phone just to have a good (or very good) audio quality also sucks.
I don't need 3 cameras on my phone. I don't need more than 2 Gb of RAM. I don't need super powerful CPU and GPU. I just want a device to receive messages, watch some YouTube every now and then, surf the internet and listen to lots of lossless music.
Fortunately with each passing year phones have better and better audio hardware.

markos365 said:
I agree.
Samsung sucks.
Meizu sucks.
And, in my opinion, the fact that you have to buy high end phone just to have a good (or very good) audio quality also sucks.
I don't need 3 cameras on my phone. I don't need more than 2 Gb of RAM. I don't need super powerful CPU and GPU. I just want a device to receive messages, watch some YouTube every now and then, surf the internet and listen to lots of lossless music.
Fortunately with each passing year phones have better and better audio hardware.
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I know I am going a bit off-topic but the guitar amp company (!) .Marshall has such a phone:
https://www.marshallheadphones.com/mh_de_en/phones/london-phone

DarginMahkum said:
I know I am going a bit off-topic but the guitar amp company (!) .Marshall has such a phone:
https://www.marshallheadphones.com/mh_de_en/phones/london-phone
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Completely off-topic now.
I seen it before. It's really expensive. And when the say LOUD many times as a pro, you know that's not for audiophiles...

markos365 said:
Maybe it's too late and you already bought it.
I DON'T recomend this device for everyone.
The software (Flyme) is a good piece of crap. They say it will never be a Marsmallow update, they'll jump right to Nougat (in 1 or 2 years probably), and I quite sure that Pro 5 will never get this update.
Flyme has a lot a bugs, some of them quite annoying (RIL appear to be unstable, you lose 3G connectivity lots of times, I have used LTE successfully a couple of times...). It doesn't support Viper4Android.
The chinese version of OS it really restrictive. So I had lots of problem receiving notifications. Global version works taking proper measures.
When you are doing not buggy things it is very fluid, though.
Getting a custom recovery is a pain in the neck.
Currently there are no good alternatives to Flyme. I'm waiting for CM13 Resurrection Remix to be daily usable.
I don't know if it is better on Ubuntu. But I don't think that Ubuntu is good for everyday use.
The hardware is amazing.
The combination of DAC and Amp is really good. Thought I miss V4A.
The camera is good, I say can't say more cause I don't know much about photography.
The processor is more powerful than I need.
3 GB of RAM are more than enough for me.
I love the 5,7" AMOLED screen.
The battery duration is acceptable. You have a full day of use in normal conditions.
The fast charge is very good. But it's incompatible with other brands fast charge. So forget about fast charging in your car.
I think it's all.
I'm quite happy with my phone. But I'm audiophile, I use it mainly for playing music.
So, given that, I think you can decide if it's worth paying that much for this thing or not.
I hope this may help you.
Also, I'm starting to hate Meizu. They do awful things with Flyme.
English is not my mother tongue, clearly, so, sorry.
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im currently using the RR rom as my daily one and tbh everything works good...the only problem is the fingerprint sensor...but aside that RR is 10x better than flyme...

Mollic said:
im currently using the RR rom as my daily one and tbh everything works good...the only problem is the fingerprint sensor...but aside that RR is 10x better than flyme...
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Mmm... The fingerprint sensor is a feature that I really like.
I read also that RIL is unstable, but that also happens on Flyme, so I'll give a try.
How's the battery life?

markos365 said:
Mmm... The fingerprint sensor is a feature that I really like.
I read also that RIL is unstable, but that also happens on Flyme, so I'll give a try.
How's the battery life?
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same as flyme, maybe a little bit better

i bought a pro 5, for 160 euros (got lucky yes) for about 3 weeks ago (chinese version, 4gb ram, 64gb rom)
i had a meixu mx4 and the pro version too... great phones (display, design, quality, camera, sound, etc) , bad flyme... but i was able to get notifications...
first thing i did with pro 5 was A to I and install last 5.1.11.0G. even with permissions and changes in security i wasnt able to receive notifications, reason : i have no idea
so i unlock bootloader, instal twrp, and tryed all custom roms from faust93 that MAKE A GREAT JOB. however this 3 roms, have some bugs, wifi/4g problems, battery drain.
i read what juandvila said in meizufans forum and i follow his guide and now i have all notifications working 100% perfect with all programs in last 5.1.11.0G
about 5.1.11.0G i have to say that is very fast, no lag, excelent battery time ( for me better than custom roms) , all works perfect wifi/4g, camera is better, all games and apps working 100% (in custom roms some apps and especially games have problems) maybe sound is better in faust93 roms but in flyme isnt bad at all and i will try too see if i can install some mod to improove sound
i installed nova launcher and i´m 100% happy with flyme because i have all notifications and all works perfect like it should work
about the phone build and design quality is impressive, screen is very good, peformance is top, audio is very good, camera is good, battery better than nexus 6p
i´m happy now with this phone especially at the low price i get it (bought it to some guy that buy a s7 and dont care about money)

using last flyme G for some days
it have some bugs
downloader folder in stupid flyme gallery is broken , but i remember this fom my meizu mx 4, stupid idiots from flyme.... but y can use quickpic gallery and it will work nice
only once my phone turn off by it self
notifications are working nice with pnfroot
but well, still good things, wifi/4g i very good
camera is very good
sound is not so good as faust93 roms, we need some sound mod for flyme, but still aceptable
battery is very good
but to be honest i said that i will never buy meizu again when i sold my mx4, i had another phones and i only buy pro 5 because it have very good hardware, flyme its a pure sh*t

Can i have One of your betterbatterystat for people who say good battery please ?
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Hey,
please ask questions if you have any, I gladly will answer.
For the specs of the phone and the shop I got it from look at the following links.
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This review will cover:
- Build quality
- Camera quality
- Day to day performance
- Battery life
- MIUI vs AOSP
- Verdict
Some background information:
Tested for one week ongoing, the Redmi Note 4 replaced the Moto G4 Plus. The Moto G4 Plus is more expensive but not more appealing.
The build quality:
Absolutely great.
Xiaomi does make good phones, they look good, they feel good, the Redmi Note 4 is no exception. It's a solid metal body phone, with a fast unlocking fingerprint sensor on the back. The screen is big, the colors on it are nice and so is the brightness.
The HTC antenna lines (iPhone copied this from HTC), look good on the Redmi Note 4, signal strength is decent. But make sure the phone has your desired 4G bands, before buying.
Camera quality:
I like it.
That's a tricky topic, it's very situational and depends upon opinions. Here is mine: It's good enough, great for the money, but please judge yourself. Later there will be a Redmi Note 4 vs Mi5 vs Moto G4 Plus camera comparison. Click it to make it big.
Link to full size pictures: picture 1 picture 2 picture 3 picture 4 picture 5
Day to day performance:
The Helio X20, a hungry monster if you want it to be.
In Antutu and other the benchmarks the Helio X20 has pretty awesome performance, but such means nothing for day to day use, so how does it perform? It's not a Snapdragon 820 or 821, no that's not what you shall expect.
The flagship MTK Helio X20 is at the level of a SD 617 or 650, it's hard to tell, but doesn't matter. The performance is good enough you won't wish for more throughout the day. But don't have it in performance mode, this mode will eat up your battery fast, very fast!
Battery life:
Just huge, 4100mAh is huge.
Two days of heavy social media and surfing is normal, you don't have to worry about battery backup, quick charging works fine. I do wish all phones start to have huge batteries.
MIUI vs AOSP:
MIUI is feature rich, colorful and gets updates on regular base. But ASOP (that's stock Android) is faster, and will always be the fastest Android available.
Verdict:
Should you buy it, for let's say 165$? -> yes; Should you buy it for let's say 195$? -> yes. (It's on sale right now.)​The Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 is a sweet little thing, good quality, decent specs on paper. Other phone manufactures will have a hard time to compete, this device is sold very cheap but offers much. Give it a thought and ask a question if you have any.
The last question: Where to buy?
Well that's a good question, there are countless Chinese resellers out. Some are scam, some are nice, some are cheap and bad, some are cheap and good... it's difficult. It sucks that Xiaomi does not sell to international customers directly.
When you decide to buy the phone, you have to decide on a Chinese reseller, choose wisely. I did get this phone from Gearbest, shipping was fast, service was good.
Links:
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or for other brands Mod Edit (Bought a Meizu MX5 last fall at Gearbest, was quite please about it.)
Thank you for reading this review, please share your thoughts.

TheUltrametricSpace said:
Xiaomi Redmi Note 4
An honest review.
Hey,
please ask questions if you have any, I gladly will answer.
For the specs of the phone and the shop I got it from look at the following links.
Mod Edit
This review will cover:
- Build quality
- Camera quality
- Day to day performance
- Battery life
- MIUI vs ASOP
- Verdict
Some background information:
Tested for one week ongoing, the Redmi Note 4 replaced the Moto G4 Plus. The Moto G4 Plus is more expensive but not more appealing.
The build quality:
Absolutely great.
Xiaomi does make good phones, they look good, they feel good, the Redmi Note 4 is no exception. It's a solid metal body phone, with a fast unlocking fingerprint sensor on the back. The screen is big, the colors on it are nice and so is the brightness.
The HTC antenna lines (iPhone copied this from HTC), look good on the Redmi Note 4, signal strength is decent. But make sure the phone has your desired 4G bands, before buying.
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Thanks for your review, photos look really good, the stunning locations certainly help too! Was there any post editing or are they as they were shot? On auto on the stock cam? To be honest it looks good enough for day to day stuff, I wouldn't call myself a photographer but need to take good shots of my kids and like to photograph anything else nice when opportunity arises.
I've pretty much convinced myself to get this phone now, just a small niggle to get the redmi note 3 pro purely for custom rom options, but part of me isn't that bothered as I've used the last couple of phones as is and there seems to be plenty of customisation options in miui to tinker about with.
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Have you tried using an OTG USB drive? I've seen some reviews say it's not supported and on another I seen someone plug in a flash drive and it seemed to work fine.
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gsmyth said:
Thanks for your review, photos look really good, the stunning locations certainly help too! Was there any post editing or are they as they were shot? On auto on the stock cam? To be honest it looks good enough for day to day stuff, I wouldn't call myself a photographer but need to take good shots of my kids and like to photograph anything else nice when opportunity arises.
I've pretty much convinced myself to get this phone now, just a small niggle to get the redmi note 3 pro purely for custom rom options, but part of me isn't that bothered as I've used the last couple of phones as is and there seems to be plenty of customisation options in miui to tinker about with.
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Have you tried using an OTG USB drive? I've seen some reviews say it's not supported and on another I seen someone plug in a flash drive and it seemed to work fine.
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Uploaded the pictures to google drive, the details are included, check it out: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5kG3WCXnqcANnVvZWo3dTNGUGM
Pictures were taken as it is, not changed, no filters added. Picture 1, 4 and 5 were taken by my girlfriend.
Location: Very north or Norway in a Fjord, link: https://goo.gl/maps/uZofdF1jSAw
... It's beautiful here, but very cold the norther-light season started and loads of tourists travel to Tromsø now. Loads of nature to see.
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Dunno about OTG, didn't try it and don't have one.
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Ya I get you the Redmi Note 3 Pro vs Redmi Note 4 is a tough choice.

usb otg works.. had try it with 3 of my otg and it works like a charm.

So do you think its worth it coming from a gs4? You're saying MIUI is not better than AOSP wich I am currently using, and getting great performance but terrible battery life. Also you compare the proccesor with a mid range snapdragon, let us not forget that the s4 was a flagship in it's release. So what do you think?

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So do you think its worth it coming from a gs4? You're saying MIUI is not better than AOSP wich I am currently using, and getting great performance but terrible battery life. Also you compare the proccesor with a mid range snapdragon, let us not forget that the s4 was a flagship in it's release. So what do you think?
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Hey,
thank you for asking a question.
Samsung uses TouchWiz what is "as slow as" MIUI is.
Did you install ASOP as a custom ROM? if that's the case you never got the full true ASOP speed.
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My girlfriend only had true ASOP devices and now is happy with the Redmi Note 4, she keeps it as her daily driver.
(I used it for a couple of days and then she took it, I do have a Mi 5 as my daily driver.)
She used:
- 2 years Google Nexus 5, until the battery broke.
- some months the Moto G4 Plus she liked the battery, but wasn't happy with it in general.
Both devices are very sleek and fast true ASOP devices, such will always be faster then Samsung, Xiaomi or others.
However! She keeps on using the Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 and the Moto G4 Plus just lays around unused.
I asked her about the speed and she said: The Moto G4 Plus was faster... but this doesn't make her use it.
Or in other words, the Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 is fast enough to be a daily driver, that's for sure.
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Ya the Helio X20 is a middle range SoC, the problem is that 10 cores are nice on paper, but the Software can't use it.
This means: It's neither advantage nor disadvantage to have 10 cores... it's just like having 6 or 8 of it (because of the software behind).
If you only used Samsungs Touchwiz thing, you can switch to MIUI, the performance difference won't be much. (Things will look different though, icon and style things.)

TheUltrametricSpace said:
Hey,
thank you for asking a question.
Samsung uses TouchWiz what is "as slow as" MIUI is.
Did you install ASOP as a custom ROM? if that's the case you never got the full true ASOP speed.
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My girlfriend only had true ASOP devices and now is happy with the Redmi Note 4, she keeps it as her daily driver.
(I used it for a couple of days and then she took it, I do have a Mi 5 as my daily driver.)
She used:
- 2 years Google Nexus 5, until the battery broke.
- some months the Moto G4 Plus she liked the battery, but wasn't happy with it in general.
Both devices are very sleek and fast true ASOP devices, such will always be faster then Samsung, Xiaomi or others.
However! She keeps on using the Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 and the Moto G4 Plus just lays around unused.
I asked her about the speed and she said: The Moto G4 Plus was faster... but this doesn't make her use it.
Or in other words, the Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 is fast enough to be a daily driver, that's for sure.
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Back on topic.
Ya the Helio X20 is a middle range SoC, the problem is that 10 cores are nice on paper, but the Software can't use it.
This means: It's neither advantage nor disadvantage to have 10 cores... it's just like having 6 or 8 of it (because of the software behind).
If you only used Samsungs Touchwiz thing, you can switch to MIUI, the performance difference won't be much. (Things will look different though, icon and style things.)
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All righty, so summing up=its not much of a difference compared with touchwiz. I think I'll buy this one instead of the G4 plus wich was an option too, I need something durable. Thank you!! :good:

Wow
I own a Xiaomi Note 4. But my photo's are not even near what you've taken. Allways noisy even in good light condition and selfie more noisy. I don't even need to zoom my photos to see the noise.
Can you tell me which app and what settings did you use in FULL DETAILS please

Dragonraihan said:
I own a Xiaomi Note 4. But my photo's are not even near what you've taken. Allways noisy even in good light condition and selfie more noisy. I don't even need to zoom my photos to see the noise.
Can you tell me which app and what settings did you use in FULL DETAILS please
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Hey, all details to the pictures can be found in the pictures please have a look at this: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B5kG3WCXnqcANnVvZWo3dTNGUGM?usp=sharing
It's a link to the photos stored on my google drive, and there they contain all information.
Full details on how the pictures were made:
- Firmware: MIUI 8 Global stable
- Camera App: Default MIUI
- Camera Mode: lazy mode / auto mode.
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Please keep in mind that all phones suck at low lights, all but maybe the Samsung S7, iPhone 7 and google Pixel... but apart from those super super expensive phones pretty much all phones suck at low lights.
(And I live in Tromsø, far up in the north where it's dark half of the year, I am used to having low lights.)

how is the gps on this phone?

bazzanaja said:
how is the gps on this phone?
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i tested gps last night with google navigation. it's almost instant and accurate.

will buy this later this week, hope to have the same feel.

Nice review, thanks for taking the time to write it.
Just wondering if the camera supports camera2 API? Also, I've read it has NFC, is this correct? Oh, are you still doing the comparison to the G4 Plus?
Thanks for any replies.

spr33 said:
Nice review, thanks for taking the time to write it.
Just wondering if the camera supports camera2 API? Also, I've read it has NFC, is this correct? Oh, are you still doing the comparison to the G4 Plus?
Thanks for any replies.
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I can confirm there isn't any NFC. Not too sure about camera2 api but I've a feeling it doesnt.
Sent from my Redmi Note 4 using Tapatalk

great picture dude
i honestly didn't have high expectation in camera
the sharpness is to smooth

bazzanaja said:
how is the gps on this phone?
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SeanLab said:
i tested gps last night with google navigation. it's almost instant and accurate.
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Tested the GPS in Singapore and Kuala Lumpur for 3 days driving using the Google Map. Very fast and quite accurate.
recommend this phone to everybody, in fact 2 of my friends bought this phone after my recomendation

ibispordfi said:
Nice review, thanks! I think I might get one as well.
At Geekbuying they have it with global ROM for $179, is that a good deal?
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Yeah do yourself a favour & buy one!! I'm more than impressed with mine & I know I would be paying double that for something even close locally.
As for that price I think it's good, it's what I payed 2 weeks ago but if you decide to go with express shipping that's where they will differ a little & I also got a soft gel tpu case, a tempered glass protector & a flip case thrown in as gifts so thats something to look for.

Battery
What is your screen on time? Mine is like 4 hours per charge. I only use my redmi note 4 for social media and youtube. I have to charge my phone twice to survive a day. How could you last 2days with social media? Is there something wrong with my device. Got it 2 days ago. I have the 64gb variant. Please help

jadebuniel said:
What is your screen on time? Mine is like 4 hours per charge. I only use my redmi note 4 for social media and youtube. I have to charge my phone twice to survive a day. How could you last 2days with social media? Is there something wrong with my device. Got it 2 days ago. I have the 64gb variant. Please help
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Uninstall the facebook app
It kills battery

codified said:
Uninstall the facebook app
It kills battery
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But I spend my whole day with the facebook app