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A guy I work with was showing me his new AT&T Galaxy 2. And it is a nice phone, a bit bigger then maybe I would go for, but still a nice phone.
So I pulled out my lowly Epic 4G running AKOP to show him an email App.
His jaw dropped, he went on and on about how nice it looks, and he couldn't get over the custom apps on the lock screen, or the smooth cube transition from homepage to homepage. It truly is something to behold what has been done to this phone. I have no desire to look for another. I think I made a convert that day
Other then TV-out this phone has everything.
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Still laggy... recent apps are jerky. Its bulky and not nearly as thin.
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ÜBER™ said:
Still laggy... recent apps are jerky. Its bulky and not nearly as thin.
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Is it trolling if it's all true?

Looks beautiful too me.
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darkierawr said:
Is it trolling if it's all true?
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Good point....
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socos25 said:
Looks beautiful too me.
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Battery's 69 lololol :3
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ÜBER™ said:
Still laggy... recent apps are jerky. Its bulky and not nearly as thin.
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"Thin" is SO overrated. Much like small size became 6-7 years ago. Thin phones are more likely to break in half in your pocket. Wait until you can get a flexible phone.

rando991 said:
"Thin" is SO overrated. Much like small size became 6-7 years ago. Thin phones are more likely to break in half in your pocket. Wait until you can get a flexible phone.
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Lol not the gnex... it curves
Trololo (which means I'm trolling I'm not that serious)
But having a thinner phone is much better... especially when the total length if the phone is 5.3inches... helps a lot.
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rando991 said:
"Thin" is SO overrated. Much like small size became 6-7 years ago. Thin phones are more likely to break in half in your pocket. Wait until you can get a flexible phone.
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bulk equals heavy; thin equals less weight, more portable, just more attractive than this
when it being compared against this
Oh and for the whole felxible thing check this out http://searchcio-midmarket.techtarget.com/definition/FOLED

XxLostSoulxX said:
bulk equals heavy; thin equals less weight, more portable, just more attractive
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So the epic being the same weight as the evo 4g and a few motorola slates means what? I could buy your argument if you were trying to compare a ppc slider of old, but the epic is the lightest most functional slider out there and a replacement could be made with the same footprint and thinner with a larger screen, larger battery and the guts of a gs3. So why would I want a slate if I can get the added functionality a great keyboard provides?
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dbpaddler said:
So the epic being the same weight as the evo 4g and a few motorola slates means what? I could buy your argument if you were trying to compare a ppc slider of old, but the epic is the lightest most functional slider out there and a replacement could be made with the same footprint and thinner with a larger screen, larger battery and the guts of a gs3. So why would I want a slate if I can get the added functionality a great keyboard provides?
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your missing the point and you will not get the same weight nor the same depth as the GS3 with a keyboard not anywhere close to it.

Uber thanks for the laugh I had a rough day and you cheered me up.....
But I must agree with the OP.... My little epic is a beautiful little piece of hardware backed up by an awesome group of devs. I think this will be my phone upgrade or not until they come out with a true predecessor
And there is a 69 in my pic to but it was not intentional
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XxLostSoulxX said:
your missing the point and you will not get the same weight nor the same depth as the GS3 with a keyboard not anywhere close to it.
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You miss the point. Law of diminishing returns. How thin is thin enough? How thin is too thin to not feel good in the hand? I'll take something a little thicker with nice curves that cradles in my hand better than something that is ultra thin just because it can be. How light is light enough? A slider will always be a little thicker and a little heavier than a similar slate. The question is, at what size/weight is the trade off worth it to have the extra functionality/productivity of the keyboard. At the time, the evo was a squared off brick, the epic came in with a smaller footprint and lighter plus it had a keybosrd. But it was a little thicker. That was two generations ago. The droid 4 is pretty damn thin, and with some well used samsung plastic would be even lighter than it is. That's is an easy trade off for me over a gs3 or oneX.
Everyone in here has some love for a hard keyboard or why would they be in here? Then they seem to care more about what slab they'll get next. I prefer to hold off and keep lodging complaints/requests with sprint for a new slider. Then again, I held on to my i500 longer than most until I couldn't take not knowing who was texting me any longer. I just don't see how faster processors and bigger screens make me more productive than the keyboard, because so far they haven't outside having an extra icon row to play with on my photon which was easily negated because i needed the toggle widgets without the toggle inthe drop down menu.
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dbpaddler said:
You miss the point. Law of diminishing returns. How thin is thin enough? How thin is too thin to not feel good in the hand? I'll take something a little thicker with nice curves that cradles in my hand better than something that is ultra thin just because it can be. How light is light enough? A slider will always be a little thicker and a little heavier than a similar slate. The question is, at what size/weight is the trade off worth it to have the extra functionality/productivity of the keyboard. At the time, the evo was a squared off brick, the epic came in with a smaller footprint and lighter plus it had a keybosrd. But it was a little thicker. That was two generations ago. The droid 4 is pretty damn thin, and with some well used samsung plastic would be even lighter than it is. That's is an easy trade off for me over a gs3 or oneX.
Everyone in here has some love for a hard keyboard or why would they be in here? Then they seem to care more about what slab they'll get next. I prefer to hold off and keep lodging complaints/requests with sprint for a new slider. Then again, I held on to my i500 longer than most until I couldn't take not knowing who was texting me any longer. I just don't see how faster processors and bigger screens make me more productive than the keyboard, because so far they haven't outside having an extra icon row to play with on my photon which was easily negated because i needed the toggle widgets without the toggle inthe drop down menu.
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Ha aha you got sucked into arguing with lost soul. Let it go. Your wasting your breathe
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ÜBER™ said:
Ha aha you got sucked into arguing with lost soul. Let it go. Your wasting your breathe
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My bad. Don't pay much attention to who's worthwhile to banter with and not.
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Jmax0420 said:
Uber thanks for the laugh I had a rough day and you cheered me up.....
But I must agree with the OP.... My little epic is a beautiful little piece of hardware backed up by an awesome group of devs. I think this will be my phone upgrade or not until they come out with a true predecessor
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And there is a 69 in my pic to but it was not intentional
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Predecessor means what came before like the moment, successor is something that comes later, like the epic two. Not trying to be grammar police, but thought it may help. I definitely agree though.
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Thank you for correction. I have four kids and worked 12 hour shift. I hope it was understood what I meant. Oh yeah and my day started with a special guest visiting my work to notify us that the new parent company that bought us in November and promised us that we will be open for years to come is shutting our doors in October. Been kinda rough day for me. So point is this is a rockass phone.
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Jmax0420 said:
Thank you for correction. I have four kids and worked 12 hour shift. I hope it was understood what I meant. Oh yeah and my day started with a special guest visiting my work to notify us that the new parent company that bought us in November and promised us that we will be open for years to come is shutting our doors in October. Been kinda rough day for me. So point is this is a rockass phone.
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I am so sorry. I understand what you meant and shouldn't have corrected you. That sucks.

ÜBER™ said:
Ha aha you got sucked into arguing with lost soul. Let it go. Your wasting your breathe
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+1 he's right arguing with lost soul is a lost cause!
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dbpaddler said:
So the epic being the same weight as the evo 4g and a few motorola slates means what? I could buy your argument if you were trying to compare a ppc slider of old, but the epic is the lightest most functional slider out there and a replacement could be made with the same footprint and thinner with a larger screen, larger battery and the guts of a gs3. So why would I want a slate if I can get the added functionality a great keyboard provides?
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It would be nice if there was a successor like that. GS III with an unlocked bootloader, large 4.5" super AMOLED plus, quad-core Exynos and a 2K+ Mah battery with a 5-row QWERTY with an overall profile as thin or thinner than Droid 4 (salivating). Unfortunately, Samsung (or HTC or Moto) don't seem to think that KB is where it's at these days, and it is likely their market research supports their decision NOT to manufacture such a phone for the minority that would want it.

Samsung hardware quality

Bit controversial, I know, but I'm starting to question the quality of Samsung's hardware, especially by comparison with e.g. HTC.
Now, this is obviously only based on my own limited anecdotal experience but after owning a wide variety of smartphones by various manufacturers over the last ten years and having worked in the mobile industry for seven of those years, I have never suffered and have relatively rarely seen total hardware failures.
In recent years, I've had an HTC Hero and then a Desire without a hint of a problem. My subsequent S2 (about four months ago) and now S3 (yesterday) have both just died, with apparently spontaneous fried motherboards.
Of course, this could just be very bad luck (or good luck, in that the S2 was repaired under warranty despite being flashed to kingdom come and the I'm hopeful that the S3 will be too) but I have to wonder, is this reflective of the quality of Samsung's workmanship?
Any similar experiences or general thoughts?

dave_uk said:
Bit controversial, I know, but I'm starting to question the quality of Samsung's hardware, especially by comparison with e.g. HTC.
Now, this is obviously only based on my own limited anecdotal experience but after owning a wide variety of smartphones by various manufacturers over the last ten years and having worked in the mobile industry for seven of those years, I have never suffered and have relatively rarely seen total hardware failures.
In recent years, I've had an HTC Hero and then a Desire without a hint of a problem. My subsequent S2 (about four months ago) and now S3 (yesterday) have both just died, with apparently spontaneous fried motherboards.
Of course, this could just be very bad luck (or good luck, in that the S2 was repaired under warranty despite being flashed to kingdom come and the I'm hopeful that the S3 will be too) but I have to wonder, is this reflective of the quality of Samsung's workmanship?
Any similar experiences or general thoughts?
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I have about ten S3s and four S2s at work. None of them have any problems.
They do get scratches on the back those without a case of course.
I think you just had phones from faulty batches.. Really bad luck.

I only had Samsung android devices (look at my signature) and only had problem with the Galaxy Nexus (usb not charging). Overall I think the HW quality is good.

I have i had problems with a Htc Desire in the past. It stopped working so did the same phone from afriend of mine.
Just so you know every manufacturer has faulty phones hence the warranty.
I had no problems with Sammy except S2's home button.
But i own a phones repair shop and i do all phones. You shold see iphones.
But i don't complain cause i can make money that way!
So to conclude you are just unlucky.
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Samsung's construction quality and materials used?
(incl that joke of gorilla glass)
Baaadddd to the bone !

The s3 battery cover is cheap and designed like crap to fit. Both my battery covers makes squeaking noises and moves subtlety when grip is applied. Really is poorly done for a premium phone.
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This is my first Samsung android device and having not a single issue so far, except that the backcover is pretty easy to scratch, but i use anyway a case.
Had a htc device before, where i also hadn't problems, but there where pretty much fried emmcs at others (even at complete stock devices), which has only been the case at previous Samsung device with bad leaks AFAIK.
I'm pretty pleased with the quality the Samsung offers.
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dave_uk said:
Bit controversial, I know, but I'm starting to question the quality of Samsung's hardware, especially by comparison with e.g. HTC.
Now, this is obviously only based on my own limited anecdotal experience but after owning a wide variety of smartphones by various manufacturers over the last ten years and having worked in the mobile industry for seven of those years, I have never suffered and have relatively rarely seen total hardware failures.
In recent years, I've had an HTC Hero and then a Desire without a hint of a problem. My subsequent S2 (about four months ago) and now S3 (yesterday) have both just died, with apparently spontaneous fried motherboards.
Of course, this could just be very bad luck (or good luck, in that the S2 was repaired under warranty despite being flashed to kingdom come and the I'm hopeful that the S3 will be too) but I have to wonder, is this reflective of the quality of Samsung's workmanship?
Any similar experiences or general thoughts?
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maybe you have power surge problems

ciscostud said:
The s3 battery cover is cheap and designed like crap to fit. Both my battery covers makes squeaking noises and moves subtlety when grip is applied. Really is poorly done for a premium phone.
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Same - really poor.
Other than that, the rest of the phone is great. I just put a case on it to make the squeaking a bit harder to make, heh.

The S3 chrome edges should have been made of aluminum instead of plastic. That's premium.
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I suspect there is one answer for all this observations ...wireless charging
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Interesting observations guys. I know there are mixed views about the build quality of the device (particularly the controversial back cover) but what I really meant was the quality of the internals.
For reference, my issue wasn't related to a power supply....my S2 died in the course of normal usage in my hand on the train and wasn't plugged in...

I've had the international galaxy s, s2 and currently the s3.
The only issues I've had have been self inflicted, and quite cheap to repair. The wife's friend dropped her s1,cracked screen. I repaired it. I dropped my s2 off my bedside table with the charger plugged in. It stopped charging. I Bought a new usb pcb and replaced it myself. $15aud.
As you can see I've never had a defected phone and I'm pretty happy with the galaxy lines of phones.
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Remember this phones have intricate components and power surge will definitely kill any sensitive electronic device. It may not be felt outright but it impact durability im the long term or the least expected time.
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Remember this phones have intricate components and power surge will definitely kill any sensitive electronic device
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Step-down transistors as used in modern power supplies are quite resilient to normal power surges or AC frequency instabilites, in contrast to the old transformers.
That's the reason the one-size-fits-all devices can be fed anything from 110 to 240V (and usually some large tolerance in both directions) aswell as anything from 50Hz to the 400Hz as found on the power bus of Boeing planes.
The only thing they obviously don't like at all is high-frequency (e.g. Tesla coils) or high-voltage (lightening) surges.
Samsung phones have a very good overall quality record, so you've either been very unlucky, have an unhealthy work environment or your devices are exposed to lots of stress in both physical and electromagnetical terms.

HTC One X that I owned had totally faulty hardware - WiFi problems, overheating problems (especially when charging and doing nothing) and DAC problems.
Had S2 made in Korea without a single problem, same for S3 made in Vietnem (probably).
I love Samsung!

Yes the back is really thin and cheap looking but to be honest it fits perfect and does not squeak . If they made it another way the phone will look fatter and feel heavier
Not a single problem with this phone so far
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btemtd said:
Yes the back is really thin and cheap looking but to be honest it fits perfect and does not squeak . If they made it another way the phone will look fatter and feel heavier
Not a single problem with this phone so far
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dave_uk said:
Bit controversial, I know, but I'm starting to question the quality of Samsung's hardware, especially by comparison with e.g. HTC.
Now, this is obviously only based on my own limited anecdotal experience but after owning a wide variety of smartphones by various manufacturers over the last ten years and having worked in the mobile industry for seven of those years, I have never suffered and have relatively rarely seen total hardware failures.
In recent years, I've had an HTC Hero and then a Desire without a hint of a problem. My subsequent S2 (about four months ago) and now S3 (yesterday) have both just died, with apparently spontaneous fried motherboards.
Of course, this could just be very bad luck (or good luck, in that the S2 was repaired under warranty despite being flashed to kingdom come and the I'm hopeful that the S3 will be too) but I have to wonder, is this reflective of the quality of Samsung's workmanship?
Any similar experiences or general thoughts?
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My sgs 2 died as well during flashing. Unfortunately no warranty case.
Price for change motherboard was just 100 dollars less cost of new phone!
So I just through it away.
I was looking for non Sammy phone first - for HTC. My HTC hd 2 still working! Still working even with ics!
But - reading gsmarena reviews I could not found any HTC model with any near parameteres as sgs 3.
Camera, battery life, sound quality, loudness of speaking dynamic.
Screen, fw, hw codecs....
I would like to have HTC... but no one of HTC not good enough for me now.

dave_uk said:
Bit controversial, I know, but I'm starting to question the quality of Samsung's hardware, especially by comparison with e.g. HTC.
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You're not the only one. I've found about a dozen bugs, mostly in the stock firmware, but one or two which might be hardware, and a couple which definitely are defective design.
Most pressing for me, is the tendency for the FAT filesystem of the onboard /sdcard to spontaneously corrupt, notably when using gReader or NewsRob (presumably the heavy write load of these apps is what triggers the problem). I've also spontaneously lost settings before now, which makes me think that /efs/nv_data.bin sometimes gets corrupted (either by the same underlying problem as causes the /sdcard corruption above, some part of Samsung's firmware damaging it).
I bought the SGS2 in spite of a Samsung DVD home theatre system which died about a month outside of warranty with a known fault. I figured as they were coming from two separate divisions, I couldn't boycott based on my bad experience with the DVD player. But some things do seem to be common; lack of QA, and lack of customer care when it matters. I'm kinda in the market for a large TV, but I won't be buying Samsung again.

Nexus 4 son of iPhone 4

So I was looking at the LG nexus 4 design and I liked it until I saw the back it looks too much like the iPhone 4/4s, I would be ashamed to pull this out of my pocket infront of a crowd. When people see it they are not going to say "hey thats the new nexus" their going to say "look LG copied the iPhone". So many android fans criticised iPhone for easily breaking but when a nexus phone COPIES it then it becomes okay, talking about being biased.
I mean I'm no head of design for apple but it's just an absolute copy if their where lots of phones with glass backs then it would be just another phone with a glass back, but the only phone that has that and has had that for 2 years is the iPhone I just can't understand. I was watching a video made by verge in google hq about the nexus 10, 7 and they said they choose the design to their liking then they obviously are a fan of the iPhone. I like the nexus 4 design but its been taken by another company I want apple to sue LG this is absolutely wrong companies like samsung and LG don't end up in court for no reason.
Another thing I noticed was the camera was underneath the glass panel but the camera flash light had a black ring around it which looked awful. if your going to copy someone atleast do it properly. It just goes to show that this is LG where talking about. I've heard a saying a person who copies another cannot do it better then the original because they intend to also inherit the same mistakes as the original. I've come to conclusion that all the mistakes to iphones made by shattering easily LG just did. I don't care if LG copies but this is a nexus android flagship, it is this device which will be compared to the iPhone /4s/5. How do you feel about the design I think they should have gone for the same back casing as nexus 10.
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I'm all for public appearances, but don't you think that not getting a phone because of what "people will think" when you pull it out of your pocket is a bit... well, selling what the device is a little short?
If you don't like the design, that's one thing, but not buying a phone because of what you think other people will think is convoluted to even type. xD I'd just a soon take the opportunity to tell them, "Heck no this isn't an iThing! It's the Nexus 4 and waaaaay better. Check out what Android can do." If even by your own admission it's a nice design, why let the fact that an iThing has it degrade it? If anything, it's a time to claim look who did it best!

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So I was looking at the LG nexus 4 design and I liked it until I saw the back it looks too much like the iPhone 4/4s, I would be ashamed to pull this out of my pocket infront of a crowd. When people see it they are not going to say "hey thats the new nexus" their going to say "look LG copied the iPhone". So many android fans criticised iPhone for easily breaking but when a nexus phone COPIES it then it becomes okay, talking about being biased.
I mean I'm no head of design for apple but it's just an absolute copy if their where lots of phones with glass backs then it would be just another phone with a glass back, but the only phone that has that and has had that for 2 years is the iPhone I just can't understand. I was watching a video made by verge in google hq about the nexus 10, 7 and they said they choose the design to their liking then they obviously are a fan of the iPhone. I like the nexus 4 design but its been taken by another company I want apple to sue LG this is absolutely wrong companies like samsung and LG don't end up in court for no reason.
Another thing I noticed was the camera was underneath the glass panel but the camera flash light had a black ring around it which looked awful. if your going to copy someone atleast do it properly. It just goes to show that this is LG where talking about. I've heard a saying a person who copies another cannot do it better then the original because they intend to also inherit the same mistakes as the original. I've come to conclusion that all the mistakes to iphones made by shattering easily LG just did. I don't care if LG copies but this is a nexus android flagship, it is this device which will be compared to the iPhone /4s/5. How do you feel about the design I think they should have gone for the same back casing as nexus 10.
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To say the Nexus 4 looks like a iPhone just because of a glass back is insane. It looks NOTHING like the iPhone. It has a pattern on the glass and it is rounded more than that Brick.

So iPhone users should be ashamed to use the pull down notification in the crowd according to your logic?
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When I said I didn't like the nexus 4 back design it wasn't because I care what people think that was just an example of what it reminds people of. I know that the nexus 4 does'nt look anything like an iPhone but the back does. Yes I know it has some sort of crystals but it still looks like an iPhone because only the iphone has a glass back, if more then the iPhone had a glass back then it would be okay but only the iPhone has a glass back.
Their was no need for the crystal effect that they used, only because without that it really would look like the back panel of an iPhone. Those crystals or what ever they are called are usually used on girly products handbags, jewellery etc I'm not saying men can't have diamonds and crystals on their clothes and products but they do say diamonds are a girl's best friend and they do attract the female audience more. If a girl sees the phone they will say how pretty because believe me it will attract them its true.
Another thing why hasn't anyone criticised it for being easily shattered like the iPhone or slippery. One more thing the nexus 4 does share a lot in common with the iPhone 4 double sided glass,metal or aluminium around it. I know the nexus is more rounded and it is absolutely identical to the galaxy nexus but the back panel is just wrong. One of the comments said that if anyone thinks the nexus 4 looks like the iPhone 4/4s because of the glass back panel are crazy then you are seriously insane for think it doesn't, why could they have not used polycarbonate or aluminium. Believe me because of this design the nexus 4 will probably be ban in some countries by the ITC, Apple already attempted to ban the nexus but dut to it having a battery hump and camera humo they failed but not this time especially with the use of a micro-sim and sealed battery.
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Another thing why hasn't anyone criticised it for being easily shattered like the iPhone or slippery.
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Because we don't have any real REVIEWS and there is no indication that it's any more slippery than other devices? Have you held this device yet?
I don't really know why I am responding... you basically just said you think it's a girly device because of a pattern on the back. Feeling a bit insecure about sequins?

aliHTCDHD said:
Another thing why hasn't anyone criticised it for being easily shattered like the iPhone
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Gorilla glass2..... nuff said...

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Gorilla glass2..... nuff said...
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Meaning it wouldn't shatter just as easy? naaaaaaah glass will break period.
Gorilla Glass is just a brand name hell it might even be worse than some other third party and the glass is just efficient for minor scratches by like your nail not drops

I'm not a spokesperson for gg but if you see my other post about how my phone has been used and abused i think you'll understand why I'm pretty confident in it.... granted it doesn't stand much chance against sand and stuff but I'm pretty confident about it not shattering too easily...
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aliHTCDHD said:
I want apple to sue LG this is absolutely wrong companies like samsung and LG don't end up in court for no reason.
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You want Apple to sue LG because it also have a phone with glass back? That is pretty ridiculous. Since when am I a consumer who is not allowed to buy any product made of glass unless it has an Apple logo?
Just don't buy the phone if you're ashamed of others seeing you with it. Personally, I do not buy phones to make status or fashion statements, I'm going to be doing more fun stuff on the actual device, it'll probably be in a case anyway.

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IMAGINE STUPID FANBOY OR TROLL PICTURE HERE THAT CLAIMS TO JUST SAY IT ALL!
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Although it's just plain petty to worry about whether some will regard your phone as a replica, it's just downright brain-dead to post these troll/fanboy posts. This is XDA for god's sake. For all things holy and respectable, can you please just cut out these dumb post-pics and just add to the discussion, if there even is one at this point? I mean, aren't you just getting sick of the words troll and fanboy? Personally, I would just as soon throw them into the incinerator and let them die a slow death.

2 separate screen protectors needed for the front and the back... Le sigh...

floepie said:
Although it's just plain petty to worry about whether some will regard your phone as a replica, it's just downright brain-dead to post these troll/fanboy posts. This is XDA for god's sake. For all things holy and respectable, can you please just cut out these dumb post-pics and just add to the discussion, if there even is one at this point? I mean, aren't you just getting sick of the words troll and fanboy? Personally, I would just as soon throw them into the incinerator and let them die a slow death.
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umadbro?... :silly:

i was kinda hoping for this back

I love that tactile sensation on iPhone 4, now it on best android device. Glass back - this is great!
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noobdeagle said:
i was kinda hoping for this back
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Give me a pink Brony edition with glittered back any days.
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Precisely
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This entire thread is pretty amusing, especially the OP.
I'm not going to argue for or against it looking like an iPhone or whatever.
However, I was under the impression that Apple picked glass for functional reasons and not purely for aesthetics. I believe it allows wireless signals through more easily than most metals and is tougher than most plastics.
So LG may have chosen it for the same reasons?

Plastic back slowly getting looser

So I've owned the tablet for over a week now. I like it. However the plastic backing around the microSD slot has slowly become loose and now holding the device feels like cheap plastic. I don't access the port at all, save the one time i put the sd card in.
Anyone else noticing this build issue?

I'd exchange it if it really bothers you. Mine is snug.
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Mine has it too. It was there when I got it. I bought a book case and now I just ignore the creaking. No big deal.

cmunho said:
Mine has it too. It was there when I got it. I bought a book case and now I just ignore the creaking. No big deal.
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You're probably right. When I bought it, bestbuy had no covers. Now I guess more are getting released. did you get the official one or another? I do like the feature of the samsung one that will wakup the device when opening.

Billyvnilly said:
You're probably right. When I bought it, bestbuy had no covers. Now I guess more are getting released. did you get the official one or another? I do like the feature of the samsung one that will wakup the device when opening.
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I got the official one. While it may not be worth $50 I like it well enough and it protects from the "everyday". I've never dropped a tablet so I'm not worried about drops.

thank you
Billyvnilly said:
So I've owned the tablet for over a week now. I like it. However the plastic backing around the microSD slot has slowly become loose and now holding the device feels like cheap plastic. I don't access the port at all, save the one time i put the sd card in.
Anyone else noticing this build issue?
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yes the same is

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When I bought it, bestbuy had no covers. Now I guess more are getting released.
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Most of my local Best Buys had the Samsung cover (white), and a black Belkin one on release date. You can check on their website what is in stock at your local stores. I'm sure more are on the way, too.

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Most of my local Best Buys had the Samsung cover (white), and a black Belkin one on release date. You can check on their website what is in stock at your local stores. I'm sure more are on the way, too.
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The Samsung cover, does it stay closed on the screen just by weight, or do the magnets actually keep it closed?

magnet

I have same problem same area since day 1. Went to exchange, all sold oit! Other 2 problems are lightbleed and loose micro usb port.

maybe you provide us with an image to better describe the situation

Well. It is quite plasticy
I have mine over a week now, and haven't felt it loose. You should trade it mate. I like the bezel of the tab but the plastic is really annoying. There are quite a few cases out there though...
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So I've owned the tablet for over a week now. I like it. However the plastic backing around the microSD slot has slowly become loose and now holding the device feels like cheap plastic. I don't access the port at all, save the one time i put the sd card in.
Anyone else noticing this build issue?
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I got mine a few days ago and I must say I quite like it! The only build issue I have is a somewhat remarkable amount of light bleed along the bottom but it doesn't bother me enough to post a pic of it. Best buy only had one case that didn't look very good so I'm still sporting the protective back covering till more cases are in stock. I have high hopes for this!

I am on my 3rd Note trade in. It finally is not loose next to the sdcard. I told them I expect near Perfection if I Pay 400 for an 8 inch tablet!
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ual4720 said:
I am on my 3rd Note trade in. It finally is not loose next to the sdcard. I told them I expect near Perfection if I Pay 400 for an 8 inch tablet!
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It really should be of better build quality for $400. Or it should be at least $100 cheaper. I have the 10.1 and it feels OK, not terribly cheap but not of high quality. I will be putting it up on eBay and going to the 8.0 regardless, due to it being a more pragmatic size for my day to day use. I’m just waiting on the black version.

I had this problem as well. I replaced it at best buy and haven't had a problem with the new one.
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you know it dont matter for they all are the same. The back just pops off very easy. Build quality was just to cheap and to thick for me.

Zeblade said:
you know it dont matter for they all are the same. The back just pops off very easy. Build quality was just to cheap and to thick for me.
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Sure the build quality could be better but I haven't had a single issue with mine since I bought it on release day. From the reports here it seems like maybe some of them are not as solid as others.

Zeblade said:
you know it dont matter for they all are the same. The back just pops off very easy. Build quality was just to cheap and to thick for me.
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Obviously they are not "all the same" since some owners are reporting here that there are no issues with theirs. I think most people are going to use some type of case with this, so IMO it's not too much of an issue. Of course I would like to see better build quality, but I don't think it's that bad. I agree that the plastic back is too shiny/greasy/slippery/nasty, but then again most people are going to put it in a case.
You can get a good sense of the build quality by checking out the display units at Best Buy (if you live in the U.S.). These things are handled by tons of people and kids each day who treat them with little respect because they don't have any personal investment in them. You can always tell which products on display have subpar build quality.
And Really? It was too thick for you? How much thinner do you want it? There won't be any room for the battery if it's thinner, or for the S-Pen silo/dock. I'd rather have a bit longer battery life and a secure place to store my S-pen rather than a thinner tablet. The weight, thickness, and balance in the hand are the best I have experienced in this general size.

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Oooooooo magnets Are bad man. Not so much for regular phones but for phones with stylus and digitizer it will over time cause dead area s on your screen. Don't believe me ?
Head over to the note 2 forums and check out all the problems with cases involving magnet clasps. If got so bad the companies offered to replace your magnet sealing case with one with a simple button in stead. I had one and as soon as I put it on I started having problems with the area around that magnet.
Just stay away from magnetic cases period. Just trust me. Or mess up big time. Once that part of the screen gets borked its borked
That pic is the replacement one with the button they sent me. Also watch out for those magnetic kickstand cases. Big no no too those utilize neodymium!
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Obviously they are not "all the same" since some owners are reporting here that there are no issues with theirs. I think most people are going to use some type of case with this, so IMO it's not too much of an issue. Of course I would like to see better build quality, but I don't think it's that bad. I agree that the plastic back is too shiny/greasy/slippery/nasty, but then again most people are going to put it in a case.
You can get a good sense of the build quality by checking out the display units at Best Buy (if you live in the U.S.). These things are handled by tons of people and kids each day who treat them with little respect because they don't have any personal investment in them. You can always tell which products on display have subpar build quality.
And Really? It was too thick for you? How much thinner do you want it? There won't be any room for the battery if it's thinner, or for the S-Pen silo/dock. I'd rather have a bit longer battery life and a secure place to store my S-pen rather than a thinner tablet. The weight, thickness, and balance in the hand are the best I have experienced in this general size.
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Amen thin ness had gone to far. I don't want any thiner devices. Just keep them how they are and make better thinner batteries cpus whatever. Battery tech needs a big overhaul that's our biggest weakness
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[Q] Note 3 + Gear

Who's getting the combo or who has pre-ordered it already? Hell, who thinks its a waste of money?
Personally I've always been an early adopter so I will be pre-ordering sometime this week :good:

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Who's getting the combo or who has pre-ordered it already? Hell, who thinks its a waste of money?
Personally I've always been an early adopter so I will be pre-ordering sometime this week :good:
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I was all about it until I found that it needed to be charged every day, it's a nice idea but needs better battery life. I called an changed to note only, I'm waiting to see what Qualcomm brings with the Toq

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I was all about it until I found that it needed to be charged every day, it's a nice idea but needs better battery life. I called an changed to note only, I'm waiting to see what Qualcomm brings with the Toq
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Yea, the way I look at it is I'll just throw it on the charger at night. Hopefully they don't pull a Droid Razr and get so many complaints about the battery life that they come out with the Razr Maxx a few months later. Pissed me off....

i keep looking for a deal for both either way i will get the watch...think its amazing all them different watch faces is also like buying loadsa watches
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Yea, the way I look at it is I'll just throw it on the charger at night. Hopefully they don't pull a Droid Razr and get so many complaints about the battery life that they come out with the Razr Maxx a few months later. Pissed me off....
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It's not the battery life, by itself, that bothered me, it's what happens when the battery gets old and it can't go even one day... All that said I love the idea and the look, so if people get it and start reporting a solid 24 hrs, I'll pick one up.

I believe its a technology of future came at present just like smart tvs. Not worth for now, also cost is too high to consider.
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stesteste said:
i keep looking for a deal for both either way i will get the watch...think its amazing all them different watch faces is also like buying loadsa watches
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The thing I think I will really like is the workout integration. I'm also excited to see the type of apps that start to come out for it.
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It's not the battery life, by itself, that bothered me, it's what happens when the battery gets old and it can't go even one day... All that said I love the idea and the look, so if people get it and start reporting a solid 24 hrs, I'll pick one up.
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Thats been in the back of my mind as well. My hope is since I am buying the package through Verizon and getting insurance on it, the insurance will apply to the watch as well. Doubtful, but hopeful.

$300 when Glass is right around the corner? No thanks

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$300 when Glass is right around the corner? No thanks
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Really? I feel glass is way too much. It reminds me of those guys that walk around with a Bluetooth in their ear... Except 1000x worse.

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$300 when Glass is right around the corner? No thanks
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You mean Google glass?
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Really? I feel glass is way too much. It reminds me of those guys that walk around with a Bluetooth in their ear... Except 1000x worse.
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Yea, really like the idea and the supposed price would definitely pull me away from a smart watch. Has a lot of features that watches wouldn't be able to make great use of.
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Yes.

I'm in even though I swore I wouldn't be. Here's my rationalization (to myself):
A lot of early reviewers said you had to touch the display or side button to turn it on. GSMArena confirmed you can activate it by shaking it using the accelerometer.
I'm getting a Note 10.1 2014 which also works with Gear so I can use it as a second phone when I want/need to. My N3 will be a carrier version and the N10.1-14 an unlocked Octa. So when traveling I can use SIMs from other carriers in my tablet if I can’t use them in my phone.
Tech is a hobby. I've wasted as much money on things of more questionable value so the Gear, even though it's pricey, will make me smile.
Samsung's got a lot riding on wearables so I'm hoping the Gear evolves quickly with updates and third party apps. Or it could be replaced by the Gear 2 a couple of months after I buy it. You spin the wheel and take your chances.
I really want to use it as an alternate to a BT headset. If the calling features on it suck I might end up returning it. But I’ll probably be unable to undo my other rationalizations.

Google Glass and Gear are not in the same category. You can where a watch anywhere at just about any time.
There are a lot places where you are restricted from actively using a phone where looking at a watch to get info would be rather benign, work during meetings, school, gyms, at many retail work places etc... Most of those would not allow wearing Google Glass ...
Even if you don't get one of the standout colors (red for example) it is pretty obvious you are wearing them when you have them on.
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Where what kind of watch you are wearing would not get a second glance.
I can see retail locations asking you to remove your Google glasses as well which would not think for a second about the watch you were wearing and would not care if you had your phone in your pocket as well.
At $300, not really interested... but if I found one for in the $100 range, I might pick one up to play with one (Gear that is).

Ready pre ordered the Note 3 but cannot for the watch yet (AT&T)
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Google Glass and Gear are not in the same category. You can where a watch anywhere at just about any time.
There are a lot places where you are restricted from actively using a phone where looking at a watch to get info would be rather benign, work during meetings, school, gyms, at many retail work places etc... Most of those would not allow wearing Google Glass ...
Where what kind of watch you are wearing would not get a second glance.
I can see retail locations asking you to remove your Google glasses as well which would not think for a second about the watch you were wearing and would not care if you had your phone in your pocket as well.
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Really a shame that Glass is considered a threat to privacy, almost solely because it has a camera (it's not like the Gear doesn't have one). In terms of categories, they kinda are the same. They are both wearable accessories that extend the experience of a device. The Gear being much more limited. Being around the same price, I just don't see the Gear being something (most) people would want or would use.
I believe once Glass becomes popular (not necessarily in its first iteration) stores will come to accept it, as they have with phones.

I just can't get down with the google glass in general. It looks so ridiculously stupid on the wearer. If its ever adapted into sunglasses or even prescription glasses I'll consider them. But not until then....
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Not that I have cash to burn nor do I like wasting it, but I get 14 days to decide IF I like GG or not and if not I return it. But after reviewing the features and benefits I think it will offer some value to me. But hey its not like I haven't had 7 phones this year already.

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I just can't get down with the google glass in general. It looks so ridiculously stupid on the wearer. If its ever adapted into sunglasses or even prescription glasses I'll consider them. But not until then....
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They do have sunglasses. They come with lenses. To me, no, the look isn't flattering. But think about ALL the tech going into it, and the amount of work it took to shrink it to that size. It looks beautiful (IMO) from a tech standpoint, exactly as I pictured it would.
Also, that patent that Google just made for Glass on a pair of glasses.
http://www.geek.com/android/new-google-patent-may-give-a-sneak-peak-at-glass-2-0-1570847/

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They do have sunglasses. They come with lenses. To me, no, the look isn't flattering. But think about ALL the tech going into it, and the amount of work it took to shrink it to that size. It looks beautiful (IMO) from a tech standpoint, exactly as I pictured it would.
Also, that patent that Google just made for Glass on a pair of glasses.
http://www.geek.com/android/new-google-patent-may-give-a-sneak-peak-at-glass-2-0-1570847/
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I can see what your saying as far as how it looks from a tech stand point. I just prefer something less... intrusive. Thats the reason I love the gear. It just seems like it fits. Nothing awkwardly standing out or shouting to the world "look at me".

Yes for the phone, no way for the watch, it is just a gimmick imho.