Even with new kernels and software upgrades? They're at least supposed to be even but instead the nexus 4 lacks battery and processing power in nearly every test. Is this still the case and if so, why?
I've read that the battery in the Nexus 4 lasts longer and search a term called "thermal throttling"
BTW, benchmarks arent worth ****
if your talking about Quadrant .. it is NOT thermal throttling.. it doesn't throttle within 30 seconds, the only test my Nexus has throttled with was glbenchmark , and that was with everything ticked..
Tweaked kernels and hacks (like undervolting) adress some issues for sure ! Less heat/throttling and even some battery gain. But i'm pretty sure the Optimus G is still ahead in perfs AND battery, without even consider its own tweaked kernels. (-> I own a Nexus 4, but i have only tested the G with everything stock)
I guess the question is about the price you are ready to pay, and where you stand considering system updates or modified user experience. Besides that, the Optimus G just is a better device. Both are equally smooth in every day use though ...
lol if youre basing which phone is "better" off of quadrant scores, you need to reevaluate what youre looking for in a phone. High quadrant scores don't always translate to a smooth, fluid, enjoyable user experience. The nexus 4 is lightyears ahead of the optimus G in terms of user experience.
Guys, I know that benchmarks don't say too much about daily use. But still. Those two devices are almost EXACTLY the same. What part of the nexus 4 did google **** up so badly that the optimus g comes out ahead in almost everything?
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Guys, I know that benchmarks don't say too much about daily use. But still. Those two devices are almost EXACTLY the same. What part of the nexus 4 did google **** up so badly that the optimus g comes out ahead in almost everything?
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Android 4.2 is not optimized for quadrant. Real world performance use debunks it. Nexus 4 is a smooth and enjoyable experience. Why are you putting so much in quadrant scores?
How would it be worse? Troll post
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How would it be worse? Troll post
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Seriously:good:
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Guys, I know that benchmarks don't say too much about daily use. But still. Those two devices are almost EXACTLY the same. What part of the nexus 4 did google **** up so badly that the optimus g comes out ahead in almost everything?
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I think you need to worry about your own phone SGS II
Optimus G has Android 4.04
Nexus 4 has Android 4.2.1
That is a much bigger deal then overaggressive thermal throttling which will be fixed eventually. Also as someone coming from the LG P999, I wouldn't want to depend on LG for any software updates again. It will get its planned update to 4.1.1 but after that I wouldn't count on anything.
I don't know what the OG is getting for battery but I've been getting over 5hrs screen on time lately which is pretty good.
I'm think LG is tampering with it's products - you would think that phones with supposedly similar hardware would perform accordingly. After all the N4 is running pure android and most folks would of given the edge to the N4. The truth is out there somewhere just saying
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Even with new kernels and software upgrades? They're at least supposed to be even but instead the nexus 4 lacks battery and processing power in nearly every test. Is this still the case and if so, why?
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I'm think LG is tampering with it's products - you would think that phones with supposedly similar hardware would perform accordingly. After all the N4 is running pure android and most folks would of given the edge to the N4. The truth is out there somewhere just saying
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You know, every single stuff *put company name here* put out, they tweak the heck out of their stuff to have high benchmark score.
Heard that new Apple GPU is 4x faster than newest Android GPU, or newest Android CPU is twice as fast as newest Apple CPU? So now you know what I meant.
@ zephik & yyz
Accusing me of trollposting... How about you read every single ****ing test that is out there? All of them say that the optimus g is miles ahead of the nexus 4 hardwarewise.
@ Kyra of Fire
Apple's gotta be doing something right. Their stupid phone lasts twice as long as the nexus 4 even though it has a much higher display brightness and a smaller battery. Oh and before anybody comes up with "Blabla but nex4 has more cores, they need more energy." Yea right, I don't know how many cores you think your phone uses on webbrosing but it won't be more than 1 or maximum 2, so not more than the iphone's got.
http://www.autoomobile.com/news/lg-nexus-4-battery-life-tips/1009720/
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GSMArena put it to the test and found that when it came to talk time tests four of the 1.5GHz Krait core remained idle and the battery did well with 14:17 hours. However it was 1 hour short of the Optimus G, which the LG Nexus 4 is based on.
In regards to the web browsing test on the Samsung Galaxy Nexus, this was the worst ever seen. The LG Nexus 4 therefore didn’t have to do too much to beat it. It went on for 4 hours and 34 minutes on just one charge. If you look at the larger picture however this is still a poor score when you consider that the iPhone 5 was two times as long.
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LG's engineers sneaked a puppy in while they designed the Optimus G (didn't happen with the Nexus 4)
Apple engineers, meanwhile, drank a tank of steroid.
That's why.
Nexus 4 is far better than optimus g
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To each their own... Played with an OG in person... it's nice... But not for me. I like being able to do with what I please to my phone. Hence I got the N4. As far as battery. I'm a heavy user and with my current setup I was able to steam using tunein for over 6hours during my work shift.. Kaokao all day... Full sync... Gnow enabled.... Not crippling my phone or turning off data syncs...left my 10hr work shift and was just under 40%...not bad in my book
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You know, every single stuff *put company name here* put out, they tweak the heck out of their stuff to have high benchmark score.
Heard that new Apple GPU is 4x faster than newest Android GPU, or newest Android CPU is twice as fast as newest Apple CPU? So now you know what I meant.
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The A6 does use a very beefy GPU. Apple has tended to do this for quite awhile now. The iPad 3rd generation and 4th generation are notably unmatched. This is not due to benchmark tweaks, they just source better chips for their products.
LG doctored our s4-quads :{
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The A6 does use a very beefy GPU. Apple has tended to do this for quite awhile now. The iPad 3rd generation and 4th generation are notably unmatched. This is not due to benchmark tweaks, they just source better chips for their products.
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^ this is just argument for the sake of argument.....
If you don't want Apple, then insert Nvidia, AT&T, T Mobile, Samsung, or WalMart, or US Department of Defense, or whatever.
Every of them have a nice chart showing how their stuff is better than someone else's stuff. Regardless of wether it is true, false or somewhere in between.
The point is, benchmark tells nothing. Yet, the company will have fancy bechmark to market their product becuase people like you guys love it.
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Dude get a grip. Do you have a nexus 4 or not? I have one and it performs considerably well. And i was coming from a galaxy nexus. All your doing is whining about benchmarks which is irrelevant due to different software. Again 4.2 is not optimized yet!
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Yeah yeah, I've seen the similar threads but they're not up to date especially with gingerbread released. I'm due for an upgrade on the 26th and want to get a new phone before college in mid August. I've posted a similar forum excluding the nexus on the gs2 forum, but I want to hear the other side. I prefer the 4" screen, but also want to root and not have motoblur, and I hear the phone lags when you do that. I realize the nexus s is single core but are dual cores that much faster with current software? I like longer battery life and an led notfier since I'm coming from a blackberry Curve. Can anyone say how the screens compare, I've heard the pentile display is terrible, but have yet to see for myself. Finally I'm told that the atrix does not have neon support, is that a difference for the average user? Thanks in advance.
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Yeah yeah, I've seen the similar threads but they're not up to date especially with gingerbread released. I'm due for an upgrade on the 26th and want to get a new phone before college in mid August. I've posted a similar forum excluding the nexus on the gs2 forum, but I want to hear the other side. I prefer the 4" screen, but also want to root and not have motoblur, and I hear the phone lags when you do that. I realize the nexus s is single core but are dual cores that much faster with current software? I like longer battery life and an led notfier since I'm coming from a blackberry Curve. Can anyone say how the screens compare, I've heard the pentile display is terrible, but have yet to see for myself. Finally I'm told that the atrix does not have neon support, is that a difference for the average user? Thanks in advance.
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I've had a nexus s and it does not lag at all, neither does my atrix. Single core or dual core it doesn't seem to make a difference to me. In my experience the atrix has better battery life. As far as the screens go that's a matter of opinion, the samoled seems more vibrant but is utterly useless in sunlight. As much as I hate BLUR, I chose the atrix over the nexus s and once we have an AOSP Rom I will have no regrets whatsoever.
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Thewalrus0034 said:
Yeah yeah, I've seen the similar threads but they're not up to date especially with gingerbread released. I'm due for an upgrade on the 26th and want to get a new phone before college in mid August. I've posted a similar forum excluding the nexus on the gs2 forum, but I want to hear the other side. I prefer the 4" screen, but also want to root and not have motoblur, and I hear the phone lags when you do that. I realize the nexus s is single core but are dual cores that much faster with current software? I like longer battery life and an led notfier since I'm coming from a blackberry Curve. Can anyone say how the screens compare, I've heard the pentile display is terrible, but have yet to see for myself. Finally I'm told that the atrix does not have neon support, is that a difference for the average user? Thanks in advance.
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I had the nexus s, it wasn't much of an improvement over my custom rommed Captivate, so I took it back. I was also looking forward to the Galaxy S2's release in America, until I got Gingerbread on my Atrix. There is no way the GS2 will be a substantial improvement over my Atrix now.
The Motorola Atrix was voted as the best phone at CES, and with Gingerbread it lives up to those accolades. Froyo and the ridiculous price of the lapdock killed this phone's initial release.
Take a look at the top results on Smartbench 2011, there is a reason Samsung delayed the GS2's release and overclocked it to 1.2ghz. Once the Atrix gets overclocked to 1.5ghz, those top results will change.
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Once the Atrix gets overclocked to 1.5ghz, those top results will change.
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So will the battery life lol
Also, does the lack of NEON support make a difference for the average user?
EDIT: reread my post, thought I didn't include the question, reread it again, realized I did.
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Also, does the lack of NEON support make a difference for the average user?
EDIT: reread my post, thought I didn't include the question, reread it again, realized I did.
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I was worried about lack of neon. But honestly it doesn't even matter at this point in time, apps don't even come close to making neon cpu make any difference whatsoever.
By the way, just got an atrix today! Found craigslist superb deal.
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I was worried about lack of neon. But honestly it doesn't even matter at this point in time, apps don't even come close to making neon cpu make any difference whatsoever.
By the way, just got an atrix today! Found craigslist superb deal.
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If you want to play normal or hi profile x264 it does.
Really annoying to have to re-encode to baseline x264. For xxxx's sake this phone can push 3D pixels like Samurai Vengeance II but can't handle HD video encoding, WTF.
I had nexus so and atrix together for two weeks. There is major performance difference between the two. Nexus s's 512 mb ram was the deal breaker for me, it was not enough. I think I'm spoiled by the 1gb ram.
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If you want to play normal or hi profile x264 it does.
Really annoying to have to re-encode to baseline x264. For xxxx's sake this phone can push 3D pixels like Samurai Vengeance II but can't handle HD video encoding, WTF.
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Saw a topic where someone played it with gingerbread, so no.
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I really like my Atrix, but I would wait and see what the next Nexus phone will bring.
Atrix ftw, i think its best phone so far for me
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Saw a topic where someone played it with gingerbread, so no.
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well thats welcome news. I'll do some research. A really time consuming thing to investigate (encode, copy to phone, see if it plays, rinse and repeat)
I own both and I prefer the Atrix.
With an AOSP ROM this phone will scream.
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Thewalrus0034 said:
Yeah yeah, I've seen the similar threads but they're not up to date especially with gingerbread released. I'm due for an upgrade on the 26th and want to get a new phone before college in mid August. I've posted a similar forum excluding the nexus on the gs2 forum, but I want to hear the other side. I prefer the 4" screen, but also want to root and not have motoblur, and I hear the phone lags when you do that. I realize the nexus s is single core but are dual cores that much faster with current software? I like longer battery life and an led notfier since I'm coming from a blackberry Curve. Can anyone say how the screens compare, I've heard the pentile display is terrible, but have yet to see for myself. Finally I'm told that the atrix does not have neon support, is that a difference for the average user? Thanks in advance.
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I would stay away from the Nexus S. Ya, it's Raw Goog but the sub-par RAM, single core chip and cheap plastic construction just aren't worth it especially on a new contract.
I'm loving my Atrix on GB, rooted, de-blurred (Titanium freeze) and running Go Launcher EX. I experience no lag, web browser is lighting fast, GPS is the best I've experienced from a phone. That's my experience and opinion. Considering the timing of your upgrade I would suggest checking the SG2 out as it may be more to your liking. Some people like Sammy HW some don't (I personally hate it, especially their damn "Chin" design philosophy).
That said, you cannot go wrong with the Atrix, it's an excellent phone. I traded in my Inspire 4G at a loss and don't regret my decision one bit.
Oh, and DL/UL speed in Houston, TX I've been averaging 3.5mb down (6 max) and 1.3mb up (2.1 max). Inspire 4G never made it over 2.5 down (1 Ghz. w/ 768mb RAM). Atrix is on par with my friend's EVO 4G (Sprint WiMax, he avgs 2-3 but has a max he's gotten of 7 once) and another friend's T-Bolt (Verizon LTE, 5-6 avg and a max of 8). And yes processor and RAM do affect your up/down as it's partially determined by the amount of data your phone can process, another reason to stay away from the S at this point.
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well thats welcome news. I'll do some research. A really time consuming thing to investigate (encode, copy to phone, see if it plays, rinse and repeat)
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Might have been my thread. I apologize, but I was wrong. Even tough performance has increased substantially (from 8-10 fps to an average of 24) when playing high profile h.264, it still isnt perfectly smooth and, for some reason, the episodes of Game of Thrones were mute for me, which indicates a continuing lack of support to audio codecs. After converting it with the Handbrake method, it worked flawlessly.
@OP
The Atrix and the SGS2 have different offerings. SGS2 has a standardly overclocked processor, a bigger, brighter screen, less weight, and a GPU accelerated browser. The Atrix has a much higher pixel density, better battery life, and a specialized game store (Nvidia Tegra Zone which, despite the lack of titles in numbers, the ones it DOES have possess highly improved graphics over standard versions).
And for many of us, it has a lapdock, which is a perfect netbook replacement if all you do is work with word, excel, and light web browsing, being lighter and having better battery life than many netbooks. Its also fun like hell to play at customizing it
I like the overall build with the Motorola Atrix, but without the GPU accelerated and NEON support, would I be at a significant hardware disadvantage for everyday use? I feel I wouldn't. Also, any complaints about the screen?
Okay. Opera provides a gpu accelerated browser that is blazing fast. The screen is really nice, but you may notice grainy greens.
Edit: oh, neon support isn't an issue, at least for me. Most of my videos can be played using moboplayer.
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The atrix also is not sized like a giant brick but weighing like a feather toy (the #1 reason I didn't go for the SGS2). Form factor wins for me. Not to mention in Australia, atrix is 150-200 dollars cheaper.
I would say though with froyo it is noticeably inferior. But that's no longer an issue, whether stock or unlock BL/custom ROM.
If you want a big screen and fast phone....sgs2, if you want sething new and try some mods atrix, if yu are a hard modder HD2
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Now that there's actual photos of the AT&T galaxy family, would anyone consider it a superior choice? I kinda like the idea of a physical keyboard but I'm used to portrait like on my blackberry.
http://www.mobile-review.com/review/samsung-galaxy-s3-battery-en.shtml
This device is really optimized, the battery finally is really good!
Great read, this phone will be amazing.!!
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that test is rigged!
those guys are paid by samsung just like all the review sites!
that is a HOaX!
nice review of battery life. DO note these are achieved with all stock settings. Once the custom kernel arrives we can get much battery life and even we can disable some cores as needed.
I hope the battery life on the S4 version is comparable. Its too bad LTE markets can't get Exynos.
that's how a jailed/imprisoned/encased/captured/irreplaceable/unchangeable/trapped/smothered battery on other units should perform.
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that's how a jailed/imprisoned/encased/captured/irreplaceable/unchangeable/trapped/smothered battery on other units should perform.
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Lolz....
This is why Android sucks...one has to tinker.to.get optimum anything...crom batt life to themes....why can't we have a smartphone that can run full tilt cor two days on single.charge.
Buy a ferrari..but drive it on 2 cylinders.
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This is why Android sucks...one has to tinker.to.get optimum anything...crom batt life to themes....why can't we have a smartphone that can run full tilt cor two days on single.charge.
Buy a ferrari..but drive it on 2 cylinders.
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You have the Droid Razr Maxx.
Tinkering is the reason why I'm switching back to Android.
I took a year off tinkering and had an iPhone. It was a good year, but now iOS bores me to death. The games are SO much better than Android games, but the OS just bores me, and the screen is starting to feel too small.
The great thing is, you can choose whether you want a phone to tinker with or a "set it and forget it" type of experience.
Also, my wife does not tinker. Ever. She has had an HTC Legend for two years now and she's quite satisfied with it, she even brags about the great battery life sometimes. I'm giving her my iPhone once I get my SGS3 because I think she will love iOS more than Android.
It's good to have options. Options are yummy.
My point is, if you don't want to tinker, choose an OS that has the default UI that you like the most. Whining about hackability and modability (that's probably not a word) is kinda weird IMO.
This is pretty nice
If the battery life of the iPhone is really that great, they must have improved it a lot. Because my 3GS had poor battery life.
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You have the Droid Razr Maxx.
Tinkering is the reason why I'm switching back to Android.
I took a year off tinkering and had an iPhone. It was a good year, but now iOS bores me to death. The games are SO much better than Android games, but the OS just bores me, and the screen is starting to feel too small.
The great thing is, you can choose whether you want a phone to tinker with or a "set it and forget it" type of experience.
Also, my wife does not tinker. Ever. She has had an HTC Legend for two years now and she's quite satisfied with it, she even brags about the great battery life sometimes. I'm giving her my iPhone once I get my SGS3 because I think she will love iOS more than Android.
It's good to have options. Options are yummy.
My point is, if you don't want to tinker, choose an OS that has the default UI that you like the most. Whining about hackability and modability (that's probably not a word) is kinda weird IMO.
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All iam saying is that i shouldn't have to tinker to get most out of myphone...smart phones are following pc route of bumping up processor speeds and adding cores...keep the cpu at dual core, improve on design and efficiency and deliver a smartphone that is truely better than the previous model.
you need quad cores to do facebook, email, video, blogging, tweeting..or anyother business apps.???.. Arrghh.
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All iam saying is that i shouldn't have to tinker to get most out of myphone...smart phones are following pc route of bumping up processor speeds and adding cores...keep the cpu at dual core, improve on design and efficiency and deliver a smartphone that is truely better than the previous model.
you need quad cores to do facebook, email, video, blogging, tweeting..or anyother business apps.???.. Arrghh.
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Smartphones are becoming the ONE device to carry.
I can imagine the 4 cores being used for gaming by one intensive game, but more importantly they can be used for doing 4 things at the same time. We are using our smartphones more than our PCs these days, so it makes sense to keep upgrading while at the same time improving on architecture and efficiency. And this is what Samsung has done with the S3.
By your logic we should have stayed at single core at around 600 MHz and never improved..
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All iam saying is that i shouldn't have to tinker to get most out of myphone
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This is an impossibility. Tinkering will always get you some more power/features (excepting only cases where the OS is so locked down that doing anything will fry it, for example) and so you'll always have to tinker to "get the most out of yourphone".
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This is why Android sucks...one has to tinker.to.get optimum anything...crom batt life to themes....why can't we have a smartphone that can run full tilt cor two days on single.charge.
Buy a ferrari..but drive it on 2 cylinders.
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Each to their own. Personally if I had a Ferrari I'd be constantly tuning it.
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I hope the battery life on the S4 version is comparable. Its too bad LTE markets can't get Exynos.
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lol the S4 is better than the quadcore exynos.
PS: "Tinkering" should be an option... not a need. Most android phones NEED to be tinkered with in order to get a somewhat reasonably satisfying experience.
So, why did I order a second battery? No need =d
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lol the S4 is better than the quadcore exynos.
PS: "Tinkering" should be an option... not a need. Most android phones NEED to be tinkered with in order to get a somewhat reasonably satisfying experience.
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I agree and I believe that it's essential for Android's future success to allow for a near perfect user experience without tweaking. But, that being said, looking at the other mobile OSes, you'll see that you're very restricted in customization which is an advantage and a disadvantage. But I guess as time goes on, both batteries and processors will get better (not linearly) and it won't really be an issue.
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This is why Android sucks...one has to tinker.to.get optimum anything...crom batt life to themes....why can't we have a smartphone that can run full tilt cor two days on single.charge.
Buy a ferrari..but drive it on 2 cylinders.
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People tinker with the chips in their BMWs to get optimal performance.Do you think THEY suck...?
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With Juice Defender or similar apps, the battery operation time could be extended by up to 20-30% if not more + Custom Roms/Kernels with battery saving settings and voila, we can have our batteries working at 150% of what plain Touchwhiz offers
So I have been waiting for Google IO to see if there are any updates for the phone itself or a new phone but it seems more and more there won't be anything big, or it may just be an LTE version. I have no need for LTE at this present time.
There is a good deal today on ebay for a Nexus 4 for international shipping and I want to know whether I should go for it or rather wait till after I/O?
Opinions?
Just get it now , its a good phone and it will last you , at least that's how I feel about my nexus . also if the deal is that good , then yeah get it , make sure the imei is clean and there is no problems , have fun ! :thumbup:
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Wait, seriously. If something awesome is released, you'll be kicking yourself in the butt for not being patient
I could easily see a battery upgrade which is the Achilles heel for this phone.
This has always been a problem with phones: not daring to buy a new one because something else, something possibly better, may be coming up. But trust me: the Nexus 4 is a great phone with great specs and still has updates to come for ages. And about the battery life: with the right mods you'll get through 1,5 day.
You won't be disappointed and if you keep on looking towards newer models, then you'll never get yourself a new one.
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it will be a long while before the nexus 4 feels outdated, it is still top end spec for crying out loud.
No and here's why:
Battery performance is lackluster compared to other devices, 3G/HSPA WILL murder even on stanby
New Nexus is obviously close and may have better storage
Camera is mediocre
The SoC has wakelock issues from the USB modem and certain sleep states are broken
No 4K support(may want?)
Development will slow down significantly after next nexus or new Moto X
Lack of stock LTE support
Call quality is terrible even if you manually use AMR
Thermal throttle is difficult to avoid, thing can heat up in basic apps
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No and here's why:
Battery performance is lackluster compared to other devices, 3G/HSPA WILL murder even on stanby
New Nexus is obviously close and may have better storage
Camera is mediocre
The SoC has wakelock issues from the USB modem and certain sleep states are broken
No 4K support(may want?)
Development will slow down significantly after next nexus or new Moto X
Lack of stock LTE support
Call quality is terrible even if you manually use AMR
Thermal throttle is difficult to avoid, thing can heat up in basic apps
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I do not agree with this person. Even when I have everything going and a ton of apps sinking in the back ground I get 8 to 12 hours use with around 3.5 hours screen on time with the screen at fifty percent. I have no issues with phone getting hot unless I am using the camera led as a notification tool in lite flow. If I do the normal things like uninstall apps I don't use and sign out of the other apps I get 20 hours easy and about 4 hours screen on time. My normal is 30 hours and 3 hours screen on time
There is little out there that out specs this phone. And being this a clean version of android and doesn't have touch wiz or HTC sense on it my phone seems to blow away even the s4.
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No and here's why:
Battery performance is lackluster compared to other devices, 3G/HSPA WILL murder even on stanby
New Nexus is obviously close and may have better storage
Camera is mediocre
The SoC has wakelock issues from the USB modem and certain sleep states are broken
No 4K support(may want?)
Development will slow down significantly after next nexus or new Moto X
Lack of stock LTE support
Call quality is terrible even if you manually use AMR
Thermal throttle is difficult to avoid, thing can heat up in basic apps
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Battery life is as always ...subjective
Google is promoting his cloud storage policy , I agree with it and this is the future ...
Camera isn't mediocre , is average ...
lack of ... LTE support for a phone which doesn't support it ...
Call quality is is good , not terrible , better then what I've used before ( HTC touch pro , wildfire , HTC HD 2 , s2 and s3 )
Thermal throttle ... Is present on hard apps and games which doesn't work properly on other devices , on basic apps is normal
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Your post is exaggerated .
The coefficient price/performance is one of the strongest and unbeatable reasons to get this phone
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There's nothing better out there in terms of Android software support. Even if you sell it a few months down the road, you'll still get a good price for it since it is a Nexus and it will hold it's value.
This phone is future proofed. Go for it.
-Sent from Marino's Nexus 4-
Get it while it's still the hottest device around!
galaxys said:
Get it while it's still the hottest device around!
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I don't think it's the hottest device around anymore. HTC and s4 are the hottest devices at the moment in my opinion.
Op if you want it! Get it. We're not here to convince you otherwise because we haven't experienced the other phones. Do your own research and don't get a phone because a community said to get it. All replies to this thread will be biased
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yes OP! Go try the other phones first, BUT if you want the smoothest phone around with No bloatware, the greatest specs all around with a price no one can beat, you might as well ! Some people say the hype about HTC one is almost at end Aside from the aluminium casing and the specs, nothing else would be exciting.
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I do not agree with this person. Even when I have everything going and a ton of apps sinking in the back ground I get 8 to 12 hours use with around 3.5 hours screen on time with the screen at fifty percent. I have no issues with phone getting hot unless I am using the camera led as a notification tool in lite flow. If I do the normal things like uninstall apps I don't use and sign out of the other apps I get 20 hours easy and about 4 hours screen on time. My normal is 30 hours and 3 hours screen on time
There is little out there that out specs this phone. And being this a clean version of android and doesn't have touch wiz or HTC sense on it my phone seems to blow away even the s4.
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I said the battery was bad relative to other devices, for instance the S3 gets at least 4. And temperature concerns have been mentioned by many others besides myself even on xda, it is not limited to myself.
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Battery life is as always ...subjective
Google is promoting his cloud storage policy , I agree with it and this is the future ...
This only works if you have fast speeds such as LTE or higher, and unlimited data.
Camera isn't mediocre , is average ...
lack of ... LTE support for a phone which doesn't support it ...
I said the device has no supported LTE, nothing is wrong with that statement. It would make sense for them to support a modern medium
Call quality is is good , not terrible , better then what I've used before ( HTC touch pro , wildfire , HTC HD 2 , s2 and s3 )
I just found it lacking compared to my Sensation, people always complain they can't hear me.
Thermal throttle ... Is present on hard apps and games which doesn't work properly on other devices , on basic apps is normal
What does the device's temperature have to do app compatibility?
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Your post is exaggerated .
The coefficient price/performance is one of the strongest and unbeatable reasons to get this phone
But if an even better device was to be announced the OP would be kicking himself like someone else said. I find the S4 Pro to be a double edged sword, you get A15 like performance but there are actual design issues that Faux has mentioned such as the wakelock for the usb and the sleep states.
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I can't believe you guys are advocating to not wait 10 days just in case. We don't know for sure whether a nexus 5 will be released. I'm not saying anyone should wait 6 months. Anyone should be hesitant to buy a smartphone that's 6 months old
IMO it is very unlikely that we'll see a Nexus 5 in some days, a new version of the Nexus 4 seems much more likely to me. Either way I would wait these 10 days until I/O. But keep in mind that what we will see at I/O will not be available in the stores right away...
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I can't believe you guys are advocating to not wait 10 days just in case. We don't know for sure whether a nexus 5 will be released. I'm not saying anyone should wait 6 months. Anyone should be hesitant to buy a smartphone that's 6 months old
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Nexus 5 will come later this year, not at Google io
Google always releases Nexus phones q4 of the year
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Thanks for the input guys. Note that I am definitely only going for the Nexus purely because of the price, it's way cheaper than anything else close in aesthetics and performance.
Just wanted to know whether to wait to see if maybe there is an improvement at I/O, which I think I will do.
OK Acer ... I would advice the OP to ignore my post due to " lack of stock English support " ...
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I don't think it's the hottest device around anymore. HTC and s4 are the hottest devices at the moment in my opinion.
Op if you want it! Get it. We're not here to convince you otherwise because we haven't experienced the other phones. Do your own research and don't get a phone because a community said to get it. All replies to this thread will be biased
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If you want to deal with Touchwiz, Sense or broken AOSP ROMs then sure, the S4 and One are hot devices.
Guys, look at this
This is pathetic results for SD800. And the reason of so low bench results is absence of thermal pad on the SoC.
This was the case with first Nexus 4 http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/hardmod-nexus-4-investigating-thermal-t2144652, the same is with Nexus 5 http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...de-nexus-5s-throttling-solved-adding-t2627714 and the same goes to LGG2.
I mean, when I spend $600+ for expensive phone I want it perform better than competitors' ones, I mean Xperia Z1, Note 3, Xperia Z Ultra. I what my bang for the buck
What do you think? Would you buy G Pro 2 or LG G3 if they will lack thermal grease too?
Benchmarks mean nothing, the phone runs fine and quickly, games play fine at good frame rates, so its pointless doing this.
Transferring heat away from a components thats designed to handle it to a component that isnt is a bad idea. You may not think the screen is getting heated, but there a layers of very insulating glass between you and the LCD, you wont be aware just how warm it is. Heat affects LCDs, in time you might end up with a dark spot where the CPU is.
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Guys, look at this
This is pathetic results for SD800. And the reason of so low bench results is absence of thermal pad on the SoC.
This was the case with first Nexus 4 http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/hardmod-nexus-4-investigating-thermal-t2144652, the same is with Nexus 5 http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...de-nexus-5s-throttling-solved-adding-t2627714 and the same goes to LGG2.
I mean, when I spend $600+ for expensive phone I want it perform better than competitors' ones, I mean Xperia Z1, Note 3, Xperia Z Ultra. I what my bang for the buck
What do you think? Would you buy G Pro 2 or LG G3 if they will lack thermal grease too?
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What exactly is the "bang for your buck" that you require? What does the G2 not do for you that the Note 3 or Z1 does that is so crucial to daily life?
Because if it is just benchmarks, then as mentioned above, they mean nothing.
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Guys, look at this
This is pathetic results for SD800. And the reason of so low bench results is absence of thermal pad on the SoC.
This was the case with first Nexus 4 http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/hardmod-nexus-4-investigating-thermal-t2144652, the same is with Nexus 5 http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...de-nexus-5s-throttling-solved-adding-t2627714 and the same goes to LGG2.
I mean, when I spend $600+ for expensive phone I want it perform better than competitors' ones, I mean Xperia Z1, Note 3, Xperia Z Ultra. I what my bang for the buck
What do you think? Would you buy G Pro 2 or LG G3 if they will lack thermal grease too?
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not long ago the g2 rocked the benchmarks mwahhaha so there with your thermal grease
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not long ago the g2 rocked the benchmarks mwahhaha so there with your thermal grease
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the kk update killed the bench score, i think mine dropped like 10k.
Benchmarks are the worse thing to ever happen to android. You would think that the moto x with its "out of date" specs still running smoother then the s5 would prove once and for all that benchmark scores are pointless. I don't care if the note 3 or s5 put up record breaking omg wtf fml scores...it still lags and mine doesn't! Lol....
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To add to this.... lets say you bought 2 cars. Both cost the same, one car says 700 hp, 0-60 in 3 seconds. The second car has 300 hp, 0-60 in 6 seconds. But once you get on the road, the 300 hp drives better, feels faster in every way and gets much better gas mileage. There's what's on paper, and there's real life.
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the kk update killed the bench score, i think mine dropped like 10k.
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but user experience increased a lot right? ui flluidness/ opening of apps?
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Benchmark d*ck swinging - The rankings equivalent of being the moron who still says 'FIRST' on a comments section
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lol, I dont mind good benchmarks, there just arent any on android that measure fluidness/real life snappyness.
First! after the guy who doesnt like firsts.
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but user experience increased a lot right? ui flluidness/ opening of apps?
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i dont see it. my phone was snappy and fluid before the update, its the same now.
as for the benchmark comments. i agree to a degree that they dont mean a lot, but a 25-35% drop seems a bit extreme for an update.
seems like they boosted the benches to boost sales when it was new.
The fluidity and the battery are awesome. I love everything on that phone. Even if LG doesn't keep it updated it will still be one great phone that i own/ed...
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I don't care bout benches, I care about what I paid for, and I use, as everyone else does, benches to prove that my item works as intended. Did you hear about lags when doing spherical panoramas? when phone overheats and process too long, longer than it must? It's the same story. Did you hear about "slow focus" in G2? Everybody did. Maybe it partly is because of early frequency drop, maybe not so.
And not only I care for benchmarks, look there http://blog.gsmarena.com/lg-g2-jelly-bean-vs-kitkat-benchmark-battle/
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I don't care bout benches, I care about what I paid for, and I use, as everyone else does, benches to prove that my item works as intended. Did you hear about lags when doing spherical panoramas? when phone overheats and process too long, longer than it must? It's the same story. Did you hear about "slow focus" in G2? Everybody did. Maybe it partly is because of early frequency drop, maybe not so.
And not only I care for benchmarks, look there http://blog.gsmarena.com/lg-g2-jelly-bean-vs-kitkat-benchmark-battle/
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But you didn't pay for a device that guarantees you any particular score in artificially inflated benchmark tests though. No manufacturer will launch a device guaranteeing someone a set score all the time. So what is it that you think you should have that you haven't got now? I thin that is what we can't understand.
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But you didn't pay for a device that guarantees you any particular score in artificially inflated benchmark tests though. No manufacturer will launch a device guaranteeing someone a set score all the time. So what is it that you think you should have that you haven't got now? I thin that is what we can't understand.
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Man, I want it to not lag earlyer than do another smartphones. Did you hear of lags when playing Spiderman 2? I've heard that G2 is not capable of playing this recent new game smoothly, as device with SD800 should. OK I don't play Spiderman2 and did not by to play benchmarks, I only use benchmarks as examples that internally G2, Nexus 4, Nexus 5 do not constructed properly. And as I did http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2299888 when I complained of improper color temperatures of G Pro LG reacted and made G2 display perfectly calibrated and on par with HTC One and iPhone 5S. So I think that in future G3 they'll do something with SoC cooling and improve performance when gaming for long time
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And not only I care for benchmarks, look there http://blog.gsmarena.com/lg-g2-jelly-bean-vs-kitkat-benchmark-battle/
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These things have nothing to do with benchmarks:
Did you hear about lags when doing spherical panoramas?Overheating can be many things, I have yet to find a phone that doesnt overheat sometimes. Usually a clean instal fixes this nicely. Its Android I guess and faulty install scenarios.
It's the same story. Did you hear about "slow focus" in G2? -> slow focus is the automatic focus, press on screen where you want focus and its almost instant. Google camera is pretty good. there are other settings that can tweak this.
That said, benchmarks in my opinion do nothing good for true user experience.
I do believe Android needs to step up on the user experience game as my comments above prove enough that this device, I say all android devices, need to much customization to be perfect. All these workarounds To fix these real issues that some users find anoying, not higher benchmarks are needed.
lol, and does kitkat score less in that? didnt see you post scores once with that nor found your arguments on it.Stop trolling yourself and post some proof then.
so my arguments from that standingpoint still hold.
I also couldnt find it featured on any major android website, wonder why.
the one benchmarktool I dont know, its only got 33 reviews, hardly antutu level. wonder if its representative.
This could be a benchmark that actually does measure some important stuff I am talking about. Interesting. thanks for sharing
omg the downloading is soo slow wow
ok ran the benchmark. but I am not impressed as it benchmarks with its own gui, not the actual phones gui. Also it doesnt benchmark the panorama shots or any camera shots for that matter.
I guess I wasnt wrong after all... sad was hoping big on this benchmarking tool to finally have a representative view of a gui from a user point of view.
People, so upsest with benchmarks, its not like its a gaming computer/server where you squeeze every bit of performance regardless of powerdraw etc, its a phone lol, and its smoother than before KitKat. Xperia Z is a good example of benchmarks vs sucking in real life ex horrible battery life....
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ok ran the benchmark. but I am not impressed as it benchmarks with its own gui, not the actual phones gui. Also it doesnt benchmark the panorama shots or any camera shots for that matter.
I guess I wasnt wrong after all... sad was hoping big on this benchmarking tool to finally have a representative view of a gui from a user point of view.
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Well, from the user point of view you should your Gallery scroll, Zoom scroll, list scroll results. The gallery scroll is what fubar in LG's UI. It scores around 35-37FPS, right? But on the Nexus it scores 50-55 fps or near. All other scrolls on LG are pretty near 60 fps, so as on every other smartphone and all right with them. But gallery scroll is bad. Did you use Tapatalk ever? Have you noticed when you try to swipe from right to left to open next page the tapatalk just stagger, hangs for .5sec, and then completes the move? It shouldn't, scroll must be buttery as is in HTC phones
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People, so upsest with benchmarks, its not like its a gaming computer/server where you squeeze every bit of performance regardless of powerdraw etc.
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Check my hwbot prime score it is 1688 and compare to Nexus 5 scores that has same MSM8974A packed in LG box. 2923 points. pretty 50% increase just because of software, huh. Or the next result , 3075
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Well, from the user point of view you should your Gallery scroll, Zoom scroll, list scroll results. The gallery scroll is what fubar in LG's UI. It scores around 35-37FPS, right? But on the Nexus it scores 50-55 fps or near. All other scrolls on LG are pretty near 60 fps, so as on every other smartphone and all right with them. But gallery scroll is bad. Did you use Tapatalk ever? Have you noticed when you try to swipe from right to left to open next page the tapatalk just stagger, hangs for .5sec, and then completes the move? It shouldn't, scroll must be buttery as is in HTC phones
Check my hwbot prime score it is 1688 and compare to Nexus 5 scores that has same MSM8974A packed in LG box. 2923 points. pretty 50% increase just because of software, huh. Or the next result , 3075
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OK, since you mentioned it I did that and got 2745 in HBOT Prime which is not too far off from the N5.
As for HTC I agree, since the One X days they have gone pretty far, they are probably best Android manufacturer at Battery/Performance optimization IMO, and Sony is the worst.
My HTC Butterfly (Int DNA) with 2000 mAh battery lasts longer than the Xperia Z (2330 mAh) per charge. Sony Exmor cameras in iPhone and Galaxy S4 perform better than the Z1. At least LG aren't like Sony.
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OK, since you mentioned it I did that and got 2745 in HBOT Prime which is not too far off from the N5.
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So, well, at least it is for me to think over, is it something wrong with my unit or its just my latest ROM with knock code has bad optimization, and it will be improved in future. Or, maybe, my PVS of 3 has to do with too early heating of SoC than yours CPU. Maybe you have PVS of 0 or 1
I had an S5 but it ran so damn horrible with TW and Lollipop I got rid of it, at the moment I am using an old Windows Phone but really want back to android. I know a guy selling a new N4 for £120 which I am really tempted by. I am not into gaming or fancy photos etc, just some music, emails, browsing and social networking. I've narrowed it down to this N4 or a Moto G, any thoughts? The N4 seems the better device all be it a bit old now.
N4 stays behind in comparison to other modern devices regarding battery autonomy.
I wouldn't suggest it to anyone who makes wide use of a smartphone
Yes of course n4 is still a great device and still had plenty of development. At end of day it's your choice.
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I had an S5 but it ran so damn horrible with TW and Lollipop I got rid of it, at the moment I am using an old Windows Phone but really want back to android. I know a guy selling a new N4 for £120 which I am really tempted by. I am not into gaming or fancy photos etc, just some music, emails, browsing and social networking. I've narrowed it down to this N4 or a Moto G, any thoughts? The N4 seems the better device all be it a bit old now.
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I'm like you in that i don't game on my phone, my n4 still serves me well for every day stuff even though it's 2yrs old. I'm going to rock out with my n4 till it dies on me.
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Both are decent phones for basic smartphone functions. The Nexus 4 has a slightly larger display (4.7" vs 4.5"), marginally better camera imo, pentaband 42Mbps-capable DC-HSDPA as well as potential LTE on bands (2100 MHz), 2 (1900 MHz), and 4 (AWS 1700/2100), and incredibly varied dev/mod support. Moto G has better speakers, radio and battery life. As always, it depends on your priorities.
I must admit, I am partial to the N4 because I have one as a backup phone and flash toy. I am running CM 12 nightlies and I'm loving it
I wouldn't recommend it. Although Nexus 4 is good, the battery life is still pretty poor, even with custom kernel.
Nowadays you can find LG G2's for pretty cheap, that might be a good option, or maybe even the One Plus One
Absolutely it is. You've narrowed your choice down to the Nexus 4 or the Moto G. The Nexus 4 has a superior processor, superior GPU, twice the RAM, and 42.2Mb/s HSPA+ vs 21.1Mb/s. It's only real disadvantage is battery life, which is mediocre at best. The Nexus 4 is more powerful, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's a better choice for your needs. Being a 3G phone with a frugal processor, the Moto G (either version) will last you a lot longer between charges.
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I wouldn't recommend it. Although Nexus 4 is good, the battery life is still pretty poor, even with custom kernel.
Nowadays you can find LG G2's for pretty cheap, that might be a good option, or maybe even the One Plus One
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How much battery life does one person want? I get at least 24hrs battery life out my nexus running dirty unicorns with hells kernel
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WelfareBaby said:
How much battery life does one person want? I get at least 24hrs battery life out my nexus running dirty unicorns with hells kernel
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True, but not everybody roots thier phone. I am just saying in general, without custom kernels and ROMS, Nexus 4 battery is pretty atrocious.
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True, but not everybody roots thier phone. I am just saying in general, without custom kernels and ROMS, Nexus 4 battery is pretty atrocious.
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You said even with custom kernel battery life is no good If you have a nexus 4 and your not rooting it etc I don't know why you have it. Imo it's like buying a fast car and not seeing how fast it can actually run. I understand tho different strokes for different folks cheers
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I use custom kernel and a custom Rom and N4 can get some extra hours of battery.
Still, if you like to use a phone a lot and keep it connected to the internet, there is no way to pass half day without plugging it to the charger.
I love N4, but that's the truth.
It's a great phone - the latest & greatest iPhone has very similar specs to the N4....
Back in the real world, the only 2 "buts" are lack of 4G - for me not a major thing - and limited battery life which means if you use it intensively over a day you will need to recharge at some point. The latest phones have 50%+ battery capacity (some with bigger screens as well).
The Xiaomis and Huaweis are making inroads, they are very well priced, and well made too.
Batt life is good on 4.4.2 but gets worse with 4.4.3 - 4.4.4 - 5.0+
It will last 2 days with moderate usage on 4.4.2
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Batt life is good on 4.4.2 but gets worse with 4.4.3 - 4.4.4 - 5.0+
It will last 2 days with moderate usage on 4.4.2
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My experience is that I have the best battery life with Lollipop. I think this will improve even more when Google releases 5.1
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+1 for the N4.
As much as I love and play with Android as a OS, I use my N4 as a phone - not a media consumption device. I have tablets etc for that.
I don't use data at all when out but wifi is on almost permanently.
With calls and texts and a little but of crushing candy I can push 48hrs between charges. Thats on Mahdi but no custom kernal.
As long as I can get through most of the day without charging thats fine with me.
The N4 is a perfect size, weight and shape for a phone and the dev community is still really strong.
At a previous job, when I did use data a lot I had profiles set up to turn 3G on every 15mins to check for emails etc and then turn off.
I'm not the kind of person who is bombarded with status updates, twits, pokes etc and am not jumping to respond to each one.
I could easily get though a 16hr day without a charge.
You just need to sit and think what you are really after from a device and cater to your own usage habits.
Casual user, few simple games, some calls and texts = Perfect
Heavy media user, social media whore, big gamer etc = More powerful device
Ill hopefully be keeping my N4 running for another year or so yet as I dont fancy any of the current devices, unless Google do a N5 firesale...
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My experience is that I have the best battery life with Lollipop. I think this will improve even more when Google releases 5.1
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But would your 5.0 N4 win against my KK N4 in a speed test?
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But would your 5.0 N4 win against my KK N4 in a speed test?
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I thought we were talking about battery life..
Yes I would win in terms of benchmarks (I would beat the crap outta ur phone).
No I wouldn't win the race for opening as many apps in the as short as possible time, because Lollopop is focused on pleasing animations.
In KitKat it is more like blazin apps open, don't get me wrong dude I was addicted to KitKat and first I didn't like LP but the longer you play with it how better is becomes, layers is the **** right now, I've never seen any smartphone UI look as sexy as with Layers,
Plus it is fully themed and the best of all is that it REALLY doesn't affect the performance or anything else in a negative way,
Lollipop 5.1 will be even better in terms of under the hood optimalizations/fixes!
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''The N4 is a perfect size, weight and shape for a phone and the dev community is still really strong''.
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Couldn't say it any better.
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I thought we were talking about battery life..
Yes I would win in terms of benchmarks (I would beat the crap outta ur phone).
No I wouldn't win the race for opening as many apps in the as short as possible time, because Lollopop is focused on pleasing animations.
In KitKat it is more like blazin apps open, don't get me wrong dude I was addicted to KitKat and first I didn't like LP but the longer you play with it how better is becomes, layers is the **** right now, I've never seen any smartphone UI look as sexy as with Layers,
Plus it is fully themed and the best of all is that it REALLY doesn't affect the performance or anything else in a negative way,
Lollipop 5.1 will be even better in terms of under the hood optimalizations/fixes!
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Couldn't say it any better.
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If you set the animation scale to 0.75 on Lollipop the Nexus 4 flies. But I agree, LP is awesome. I do not know why so many people have bugs, DO A CLEAN FLASH. And Layers is aweseome too, btw you on Frank as well?
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If you set the animation scale to 0.75 on Lollipop the Nexus 4 flies. But I agree, LP is awesome. I do not know why so many people have bugs, DO A CLEAN FLASH. And Layers is aweseome too, btw you on Frank as well?
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Yes, set it to 0,75 is def. an option if you want it to be a little snappier, but I like the animations so I keep it on 1.0.
I'm currently on Frank build 13 which is really good, I also like BoostPop really well.. I'm not into very feature-rich ROMs, I like it simple, there is just nothing that I really need compared to AOSP, all the extra features in Dirty Unicorns, Liquid Smooth etc. are not a must for me, for me they are more there for the fun.
All I want is just to get the best performance and battery life out of my device as possible.
PS: I'm not ''bashing'' any ROMs, it is just the way I think of it.
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Check out this MOD.
I've got both and there is a noticeable difference in performance. The Nexus 4 beats the Moto G 2nd Gen by quite much! Unless you want a good camera, go for the Nexus 4 and don't even think about it! It's also cheaper, plus it has more development. But be sure to buy a case, it breaks easily. If you load a custom kernel you would probably get even better performance and much better battery life! Also, you can enable 4G through some modding tricks, you also have Qi wireless charging. It's overall a device that has been made even better over the years! MOST IMPORTANT! THE RAM it's 2GB instead of 1GB which makes a huuuge difference! Most of these things are lacking on the Moto G.