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It says they wont let you return notebooks or computers, but they have the tablet under notebooks? I have one here that I would like to open and inspect to compare with my amazon tablet, which ever one has "less issues" I would like to keep... but I dont know if I should open the adorama transformer?? Any help...
Call Adorama. Tell them that it will be a gift. If my dad does not like it (1. opened; 2. unopened), can I return it?
If the policy is as you state, whether opened or not, you might NOT be able to return.
Same policy on TigerDirect.
Once you get it you cannot return it for a refund, unless you refused the original delivery. All RMA issues have to be dealt with ASUS directly.
Tsk tsk tsk. ALWAYS research return/refund policies when buying anything... especially electronics.
Regardless, just return the worst one to Amazon. They don't check for serial numbers or anything. I returned my Walmart TF to Newegg and vice-versa without any issues. The UPC code is the same.
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Tsk tsk tsk. ALWAYS research return/refund policies when buying anything... especially electronics.
Regardless, just return the worst one to Amazon. They don't check for serial numbers or anything. I returned my Walmart TF to Newegg and vice-versa without any issues. The UPC code is the same.
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^^^ and this is the reason some sites don't take returns
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Same policy on TigerDirect.
Once you get it you cannot return it for a refund, unless you refused the original delivery. All RMA issues have to be dealt with ASUS directly.
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I know everyone says this about TigerDirect and i think it even says so on the website. But when I called them and told them all my issues and asked to just to just get my money back. They gave me no issues. Instantly emailed me the return label, paid for by them, and a few days later I got my money refunded too. I think I might have just gotten very lucky and got a great rep though, becuase my other times calling about the same issues I got a bunch of bs and run around. So i think if you really try the reps can do anything they want for you. haha
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ill call them tomorrow... if that's the case I will never buy from them again... and ill return the amazon one..
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It says they wont let you return notebooks or computers, but they have the tablet under notebooks? I have one here that I would like to open and inspect to compare with my amazon tablet, which ever one has "less issues" I would like to keep... but I dont know if I should open the adorama transformer?? Any help...
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Ok no offense, but you are exactly the reason WHY there are those kinds of return policies in the first place. I'm dead serious. Returns are expensive for retailers. They are bad enough when there are legit reasons for the return but when people do stuff like what you are attempting it's fraudulent in my opinion. Stores don't exist to work like libraries where you check out an item play with it see if it has issues and then return it when you are done playing.
If people would stop doing things like what you are attempting return procedures would likely be a bit more lax and restocking fee's wouldn't exist. Businesses are in business to make money, shocking i know. And returns are not profitable.
What you should be doing is taking any build quality issues up with the manufacturer NOT the retailer. They didn't make it and shouldn't be suffering a loss so you can play "which one will i keep". As a business owner myself i can spot people like yourself a mile away and i usually direct your business elsewhere, customers like that just aren't worth the trouble.
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Ok no offense, but you are exactly the reason WHY there are those kinds of return policies in the first place. I'm dead serious. Returns are expensive for retailers. They are bad enough when there are legit reasons for the return but when people do stuff like what you are attempting it's fraudulent in my opinion. Stores don't exist to work like libraries where you check out an item play with it see if it has issues and then return it when you are done playing.
If people would stop doing things like what you are attempting return procedures would likely be a bit more lax and restocking fee's wouldn't exist. Businesses are in business to make money, shocking i know. And returns are not profitable.
What you should be doing is taking any build quality issues up with the manufacturer NOT the retailer. They didn't make it and shouldn't be suffering a loss so you can play "which one will i keep". As a business owner myself i can spot people like yourself a mile away and i usually direct your business elsewhere, customers like that just aren't worth the trouble.
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I disagree. Online retailers need to know that people are not able to "try" things out before purchasing like a B&M. For example, recently, I bought $300 worth of sunglasses to see which pair fit my face/style. I will mail back the ones that I did not select.
Why should it be different with electronics? No major B&M electronic retailer has restocking fees anymore except Sears. I'm sure that will end eventually. For me, I will not shop at a place that has a fee when it comes to small electronics (handheld devices, phones, etc.).
Don't worry, OP. No one is getting a free lunch from Amazon either.
Just saw this on AMAZON TF101 SPECS section:
Amazon.com Returns Policies: You may return any new computer purchased from Amazon.com that is "dead on arrival," arrives in damaged condition, or is still in unopened boxes, for a full refund within 30 days of purchase. Amazon.com reserves the right to test "dead on arrival" returns and impose a customer fee equal to 15 percent of the product sales price if the customer misrepresents the condition of the product. Any returned computer that is damaged through customer misuse, is missing parts, or is in unsellable condition due to customer tampering will result in the customer being charged a higher restocking fee based on the condition of the product. Amazon.com will not accept returns of any desktop or notebook computer more than 30 days after you receive the shipment. New, used, and refurbished products purchased from Marketplace vendors are subject to the returns policy of the individual vendor.
Of course, Amazon would be flexible about a defect (vs DOA), and be more flexible than to people who say, "I just did not like it. Wasn't what I expected."
I love my TF and I am keeping one.. I just put one on craiglist for $415 I think thats a fair price.. I am not "making" any money but that was never the point.. I just wanted to make sure I got a good one... they both are great with very little light leak, they both have the unbalanced sound but I see there is a fix for this already, so some one is gonna get lucky and get a transformer locally at cost, with no tax! lol
Not to be too legalistic but as far as I know no merchant through the use of any policy or provision can excuse themselves from the obligation of selling merchandise that is fit for its intended purpose.
If I sell you a toaster that does not toast, a knife that does not cut or a tablet that bleeds light out of the sides of the screen you have a pretty good case to demand full reimbursement.
Anyone can put up a sign "All Sales Are Final" or "Absolutely No Returns" or whatever they like but store policies never ever under any circumstances allow for a seller to commit fraud. If you tell the people that you gave the money to that the item does not work as promised through their onsite advertising (i.e. no mention of unequal sound or screenshots that do not show light bleed) you are entitled to cancel the sale since they took your money and did not give you the promised goods in exchange. You not obligated to let them try again, charge you a restocking fee, give you store credit or anything else.
Obviously I'm not a lawyer so you're mileage may vary. But I have found by plainly stating that the product in question is not fit for its intended purpose and as such I would like a refund yields a mostly desirous result. If the retailer held firm I would then call my credit card company and then worse case small claims.
The key is to keep saying unfit - unusable - not as advertised. Technical terms can cause subjective analysis while those three are pretty clear and can be elaborated on but not replaced (i.e. it's unfit because I bought it listen to music but one speaker is louder than the other, it is unusable because I bought it to view photos but the screen bleeds lights from the sides, etc.).
I'm sure they will help you regardless but no reason to bow down to some internet verbiage that outright dismisses their obligations under most state laws. As far as I am concerned a product received in unadvertised condition is DOA. Might as well be a brick if it doesn't do what it's supposed to do how it's supposed to do it.
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It says they wont let you return notebooks or computers, but they have the tablet under notebooks? I have one here that I would like to open and inspect to compare with my amazon tablet, which ever one has "less issues" I would like to keep... but I dont know if I should open the adorama transformer?? Any help...
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Best thing is to email me directly with your order number: [email protected]
BTW the returns policy as it relates to certain items is set by the manufacturers not by Adorama.
If an item in this category is found to be faulty or damaged on arrival it will be covered under the manufacturer warranty - but needs to be returned directly the manufacturer.
Helen Oster
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Hey guys and gals, say hi to Helen. (Hi Helen, been a while since I've seen you around the internet.) She is one of the many reasons I like to use Adorama. How many companies have you seen that are this proactive? (I've heard Asus is active here too. That was an extra selling point for the TF for me.)
I usually deal with them for camera gear and they are very good about returns. Looks like their laptop policy is a wee bit different but I guess we now know why.
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Hey guys and gals, say hi to Helen. (Hi Helen, been a while since I've seen you around the internet.) She is one of the many reasons I like to use Adorama. How many companies have you seen that are this proactive?
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Hi! That's good to hear!
I sold a HTC Desire HD with a cracked screen and a missing volume rocker on ebay for £80.
Before sending the phone I tested everything and everything was working perfectly fine.
Now the buyer has messaged me saying the vibration doesn't work on the phone but I am 100% sure that it worked when I sent it.
He hasn't asked for a refund but I'm worried that he will and I can't really afford to issue one.
What can I do? Because it was working when I sent it but I don't have proof of that.
Thanks.
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Depends on what you had in your listing.
Was it sold as faulty or spares/repair? Was it sold with no returns?
Ebay unfortunately have a habit of siding with the seller. Try contacting the buyer and offering a partial refund rather than a full one.
Returns not accepted.
But there was nothing wrong with the vibration, and I don't want the buyer or ebay to think I ripped him off because I didn't, and I don't see how the motor could have broken in transaction.
I'm skint at the moment due to many bills coming in at the same time, so I can't afford any type of refund.
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As long as you were detailed on your ebay listing quoting phone has issues buyer should assume there are issues. Do not fret if he opens a claim against you with ebay, they will look at your posting and see that you mentioned there are defects with the phone, As long as you did not place in ad phone 100% funtional you have no issues and if you did you dont have the burden of proof. As well as look into how long it took seller to reply or even if they took phone apart to repair screen, I had a buyer wanting a refund back saying item did not work 45 days later saying they just opened it. They lost so dont worry about something that has not begun yet. Ebay is a very solid and trustworthy sight that does the right thing for buyers as well as sellers. Unlike craigslist and their scammers.
Edit: Plus they do not get a refund until ebay knows you recieved item back in same condition as shipped. DO NOT OFFER partial refunds cause possible buyer trying to get one over on you let ebay deal with the dispute if there is any.
The vibration motor on my DHD packed in one day. Just went from working to not working. No drops or anything like that, so it could happen.
But...
When did you sell it and when did the buyer receive it? Was there a few days between them actually taking delivery and then contacting you?
When I purchase anything via eBay, I immediately check it and if necessary contact the seller. This is to eliminate any "you've had it a week, you broke it" scenarios.
The fact you listed it as having a cracked screen and faulty volume rocker indicates you were honest with its state pre-sale, why would you hide the fact vibration motor didn't work? I think in any event eBay would see that you were honest with your description.
I would contact the buyer and let them know that it was thoroughly tested before you posted it, and that any damage other than what you disclosed must have happened in the post. And in that case to claim from Royal Mail, DHL, Yodel (or whoever your courier was). I'm assuming you used a method of dispatch that was insured.
Thanks for the great advice Andy
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Quite true what mr. Mod says there but I encountered once almost the same situation as you with ebay. Their rule there states that as long as the defect is not stated in the listing then it's the seller's responsibility. I even hear sellers ranting on the forums about their product's parts being replaced and returned to them but ebay insists a return unless the seller could really prove their claim. Regarding the vibration not working if the buyer states that it's not working since he/she recieved it maybe you both could redirect the case on the courier you used on delivering the package and file a mishandling case on their side.
If you're sure that vibration is working when you said it and the buyer claims that it doesn't work since he recieved it then point it to the delivery man
But before that ask the buyer first when did the vibration stopped working. if he says greater than 1 day then ignore him!
He's now asking for refund. I don't have the money so what will happen if eBay side with him?
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Read the post above yours.
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He's now asking for refund. I don't have the money so what will happen if eBay side with him?
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Stand your corner, if you are 100% sure that the vibration worked before dispatch, then you have done nothing wrong. You should direct the buyer to the courier as that can be the only source (other than the buyer) that could've caused the damage.
Sould the buyer file a dispute with eBay/PayPal, just be truthful, state that the vibration motor worked prior to dispatch and that it must have occurred in transit. State that you have contacted the buyer to file a claim with the courier (which you should do, if you have not already).
Worse case, the buyer should return the handset to you, postage at buyers expense, before you refund the money. Should give you chance to relist it if necessary. In my experience, although limited, with eBay & PayPal is that if you are honest you should be ok.
The buyer is happy with me contacting Royal Mail to claim. I insured the postage so should be fine, but I've had a problem with Royal Mail insurance claim in the past.
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As long as you state the facts, you should not have an issue. Insured carriage is designed to cover circumstances such as yours. Contact the buyer and ask for photo's of the packaging, perhaps that shows signs of mishandling.
I actually did a bit of temporary driving work for Yodel, driving HGVs between depots, and I can guarantee that your packages are thrown about.
If the pictures show dents, crush marks or anything to suggest mishandling, you are covered.
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As long as you state the facts, you should not have an issue. Insured carriage is designed to cover circumstances such as yours. Contact the buyer and ask for photo's of the packaging, perhaps that shows signs of mishandling.
I actually did a bit of temporary driving work for Yodel, driving HGVs between depots, and I can guarantee that your packages are thrown about.
If the pictures show dents, crush marks or anything to suggest mishandling, you are covered.
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ebay will always side with buyer, if u want to "play the ebay game" then get the item sent back with tracking, wait on the refund ebay will refund your buyer, you then refund ebay but u dnt repay. instead u dispute the claim ie phones more damaged than when u sent it. hey presto ebay pay the refund and u get the phone to resell.
maybe not the correct way but id say this buyer just wants a partial refund hes playing the "ebay game" as he knows ebay will ask u to refund.
What the title says.
Google store
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Google Store today they are offering $50 off on Nexus 5X and Nexus 6P.
Or use swappa
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Carphone Warehouse if you're living in the UK, excellent prices especially if SIM free.
Google Store...
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While you're there, check out the official 6P accessories. Google just released the live cases and my o my do they look good or not.
ttminh1997 said:
While you're there, check out the official 6P accessories. Google just released the live cases and my of my do they look good or not.
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I do agree they look great, but I just purchased a dbrand skin a few days ago...
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What the title says.
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Wherever it is the cheapest, total all in cost. The Google store is likely the second worst place since they charge tax to a number of states and usually don't throw in extra goodies. They are beat to the title of worst place to buy only by Best Buy where you will pay tax in every state hat has one. Newegg will charge tax to CA and a few others. IMO the best place to buy is B&H. If you have not heard of them buy without hesitation. They are a well established vendor of photographic gear with outstanding service and some of the better prices around. And when it comes to photo gear their selection is unparalleled.
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Wherever it is the cheapest, total all in cost. The Google store is likely the second worst place since they charge tax to a number of states and usually don't throw in extra goodies. They are beat to the title of worst place to buy only by Best Buy where you will pay tax in every state hat has one. Newegg will charge tax to CA and a few others. IMO the best place to buy is B&H. If you have not heard of them buy without hesitation. They are a well established vendor of photographic gear with outstanding service and some of the better prices around. And when it comes to photo gear their selection is unparalleled.
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Thanks, and I agree B&H is a great store (I actually some of my PC parts from them), now that I know that they carry the phone I'm gonna go with them. They literally have everything tech related.
Sweet I get no sales tax, a $50 Gift Card, and a selfie stick...
Just bought mint condition 64GB version from Swappa for $440. Very happy with my experiences there, both selling and buying.
craighwk said:
Just bought mint condition 64GB version from Swappa for $440. Very happy with my experiences there, both selling and buying.
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Or you could have bought a brand new one with a 2 year warranty (1 year extended with many credit cards) for $10 more
I got mine off Amazon, $64 GB; standard price of $549, after taxes and whatnot it came to about $600; it's a bit more expensive, but I'm glad I paid the extra because Amazon is awesome, and I'm getting a replacement shipped because my wifi module died after I unlocked the bootloader (how does that even happen?).
Got mine from Best Buy for $449 and a $50 gift card.
I was there and I already planned on getting the 6P so why not.
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I got my aluminum 64gb from Amazon for $394- plus tax. I.highly recommend Amazon
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There are members here telling you not to buy from that Google Store purely because you can save a few bucks elsewhere. But I believe this is incorrect. The Google Store is the single best place to buy from even if it costs you a few extra dollars. Why? RMA's and returns. If you buy from Google and you have a legitimate problem with your phone all you do is tell them about it and they'll give you a replacement. No proof required, and very few questions asked. It's about as easy as it gets. Even if your phone is bent. If you buy from another retailer they'll generally do whatever they can to not provide you with a replacement. Those few extra bucks you might pay via the Google Store are well worth the peace of mind that comes with knowing you'll be taken care of if something goes wrong.
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There are members here telling you not to buy from that Google Store purely because you can save a few bucks elsewhere. But I believe this is incorrect. The Google Store is the single best place to buy from even if it costs you a few extra dollars. Why? RMA's and returns. If you buy from Google and you have a legitimate problem with your phone all you do is tell them about it and they'll give you a replacement. No proof required, and very few questions asked. It's about as easy as it gets. Even if your phone is bent. If you buy from another retailer they'll generally do whatever they can to not provide you with a replacement. Those few extra bucks you might pay via the Google Store are well worth the peace of mind that comes with knowing you'll be taken care of if something goes wrong.
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A couple things need to be added because it was left out. Officially, Google says it doesn't cover accidental/water damage. Having protection plan obviously covers that. I say this because above it says "even if your phone is bent".
The other thing left out is also kinda big too. It's the part about fronting the money for the device that's going to be replaced. Google doesn't just send you another device even if it's covered under warranty. They send a email with a link to follow. You follow that and it orders the "rapid replacement" or whatever Google calls that process. It puts a hold on your credit card for whatever the device costs. Once you return the defective device (Google allows you to print out the shipping label so you don't pay for that) the hold is released. The first time I came across this process the amount was a surprise.
I asked if I didn't want to front the money could I just send the defective device in and they send the fixed device/replacement back. They said its done the other way with having a hold put on your card.
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A couple things need to be added because it was left out. Officially, Google says it doesn't cover accidental/water damage. Having protection plan obviously covers that. I say this because above it says "even if your phone is bent".
The other thing left out is also kinda big too. It's the part about fronting the money for the device that's going to be replaced. Google doesn't just send you another device even if it's covered under warranty. They send a email with a link to follow. You follow that and it orders the "rapid replacement" or whatever Google calls that process. It puts a hold on your credit card for whatever the device costs. Once you return the defective device (Google allows you to print out the shipping label so you don't pay for that) the hold is released. The first time I came across this process the amount was a surprise.
I asked if I didn't want to front the money could I just send the defective device in and they send the fixed device/replacement back. They said its done the other way with having a hold put on your card.
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A bent phone is usually a manufacture defective one, and is covered under their return policy. Accidental/water damage is not manufacture defective, so it won't be covered. Simple as that.
It's called an RMA and almost all retailers do that for returned merchandise. Look at the situation from their POV: what would keep you from not sending the defective phone back once they sent you the replacement. Again, simple as that.
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A couple things need to be added because it was left out. Officially, Google says it doesn't cover accidental/water damage. Having protection plan obviously covers that. I say this because above it says "even if your phone is bent".
The other thing left out is also kinda big too. It's the part about fronting the money for the device that's going to be replaced. Google doesn't just send you another device even if it's covered under warranty. They send a email with a link to follow. You follow that and it orders the "rapid replacement" or whatever Google calls that process. It puts a hold on your credit card for whatever the device costs. Once you return the defective device (Google allows you to print out the shipping label so you don't pay for that) the hold is released. The first time I came across this process the amount was a surprise.
I asked if I didn't want to front the money could I just send the defective device in and they send the fixed device/replacement back. They said its done the other way with having a hold put on your card.
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The bent phones aren't seen as accidental damage, there are many reports of these being replaced by Google with no questions asked. Of course you need to "front the money" as you put it. This is normal procedure when an advanced replacement is being provided to a consumer. Anyway, you're not actually being charged, they're not taking any money, all that's happening is you're authorising them to take the money in the case that you don't return the defective device. Do you really expect companies to just send products worth hundreds of dollars with no insurance against theft/fraud?
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A bent phone is usually a manufacture defective one, and is covered under their return policy. Accidental/water damage is not manufacture defective, so it won't be covered. Simple as that.
It's called an RMA and almost all retailers do that for returned merchandise. Look at the situation from their POV: what would keep you from not sending the defective phone back once they sent you the replacement. Again, simple as that.
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It is simple. So simple I made sure to add it. Being told about a charge is something to know about. It wasn't mentioned. I mentioned it.
As for your question about what would keep someone from not sending a device back. I said nothing about it being right or wrong. You mention it like I did. I don't think it's wrong. Inconvenience for sure, especially if you didn't do anything wrong and it's not your fault. But I know some people would not return the defective device. Integrity for some would make them return it. As for others, some would not and that's almost certainly the reason multiple companies do that exact thing (charge up front).
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The bent phones aren't seen as accidental damage, there are many reports of these being replaced by Google with no questions asked. Of course you need to "front the money" as you put it. This is normal procedure when an advanced replacement is being provided to a consumer. Anyway, you're not actually being charged, they're not taking any money, all that's happening is you're authorising them to take the money in the case that you don't return the defective device. Do you really expect companies to just send products worth hundreds of dollars with no insurance against theft/fraud?
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Again, telling those about the charge doesn't mean I think it's wrong. It wasn't mentioned. And being told about paying for the device again, even as a hold that will be returned is something that should be mentioned.
I recently purchased 3 S7 edge G375U from ebay seller "cellitems" and my experience is far from acceptable.
Only 1 out of 3 looked new. 2 out of 3 were scratched up especially on the flash and sensor lens on the back. All 3 came with the box seals broken. When I contacted them they assured me they were new and only opened for unlocking. I was thinking what? These are factory unlocked to begin with!
I started looking more closely to these phones and it turned out all them are Sprint version G375P with G375U ROM installed. Although it works fine but I surely don't like being lied to.
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"Although it works fine but I surely don't like being lied to."
For the principal, I'd go for a refund, or more assertive resolution that failing... and look elsewhere
Asking for a refund on 2. Keeping one for personal reason. I think ebay should have a better system in place to punish these sellers. It's said that most customer didn't know they got tricked. 1 star feedback will be given. I wish ebay can notify other buyers of this scam.
e20140 said:
I recently purchased 3 S7 edge G375U from ebay seller "cellitems" and my experience is far from acceptable.
Only 1 out of 3 looked new. 2 out of 3 were scratched up especially on the flash and sensor lens on the back. All 3 came with the box seals broken. When I contacted them they assured me they were new and only opened for unlocking. I was thinking what? These are factory unlocked to begin with!
I started looking more closely to these phones and it turned out all them are Sprint version G375P with G375U ROM installed. Although it works fine but I surely don't like being lied to.
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You must be new to eBay...
90% of everything on eBay is fake
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You must be new to eBay...
90% of everything on eBay is fake
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That's not true. Im buying 3 phones in the past and not one was a fake.
I think the buyer should be more careful and reading the ratings for example. Not reading the positive ratings.. Read the negativ ratings. I didnt say its his fault... I dont like it too and hate them sellers.
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Did you Pay via Paypal? So u can Open an issue on Paypal. Until its not solved the seller didnt get his money
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That's not true. Im buying 3 phones in the past and not one was a fake.
I think the buyer should be more careful and reading the ratings for example. Not reading the positive ratings.. Read the negativ ratings. I didnt say its his fault... I dont like it too and hate them sellers.
To the op :
Did you Pay via Paypal? So u can Open an issue on Paypal. Until its not solved the seller didnt get his money
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Naive
Ratings and feedback mean nothing, I bought a PS3 controller from a guy with thousands of 100% positive feedback, controller was a fake
Bought iPad charger from someone with very high 100% positive feedback, also fake
You want to know how they keep their 100% positive feedback? The same way they tried to get me to reverse my negative rating by refunding me under the agreement that I could keep the item as long as I changed my feedback from negative to positive (I did not change my feedback)
eBay ratings = Nothing
You got lucky
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Naive
Ratings and feedback mean nothing, I bought a PS3 controller from a guy with thousands of 100% positive feedback, controller was a fake
Bought iPad charger from someone with very high 100% positive feedback, also fake
You want to know how they keep their 100% positive feedback? The same way they tried to get me to reverse my negative rating by refunding me under the agreement that I could keep the item as long as I changed my feedback from negative to positive (I did not change my feedback)
eBay ratings = Nothing
You got lucky
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Kind of luck is always needed.
But Ive learned that there's always a trusted Shop where you can buy.
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Kind of luck is always needed.
But Ive learned that there's always a trusted Shop where you can buy.
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Yep, you can find hidden honest gems shops, but like I say, you have to sift through the 90% of fakes to find that 10% pot of gold
I'd rather pay the extra to buy from a real online shop than use eBay these days
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I recently purchased 3 S7 edge G375U from ebay seller "cellitems" and my experience is far from acceptable.
Only 1 out of 3 looked new. 2 out of 3 were scratched up especially on the flash and sensor lens on the back. All 3 came with the box seals broken. When I contacted them they assured me they were new and only opened for unlocking. I was thinking what? These are factory unlocked to begin with!
I started looking more closely to these phones and it turned out all them are Sprint version G375P with G375U ROM installed. Although it works fine but I surely don't like being lied to.
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*Detection* said:
Yep, you can find hidden honest gems shops, but like I say, you have to sift through the 90% of fakes to find that 10% pot of gold
I'd rather pay the extra to buy from a real online shop than use eBay these days
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For my personal use, I ended up buying it from Bestbuy. Even Items directly from China operated store was good. Got one of those Lenovo's fastest tablet for cheap!
Recent experience of buying new phone on eBay (all local USA sellers) is horrible. Aside from S7 edge, I bought a LG G5 in the summer and ended up returning them all, 5 times total. Again, the phone was installed with unofficial ROMs.
I would like to add, buying from individual ebay sellers (not one with a store) is mostly safe.
I would like to add never buy parts from FixEZ on ebay as they claim oem quality And most def is not...
I bought a lcd and frame assembly from them and its made of reg glass not gorilla and there cust service rep cussed me out when I sent the screen shots of the website as he told me they never claimed oem.
Which they most def did...
The screen cracked in my pocket when i sat down just from the pressure in a front pocket of fairly baggy pants might i add
This was for a LG G4
There is one advantage to there being so many fakes on eBay, so long as the seller advertises them as genuine, and they are not, you can usually get a full refund along with them letting you keep the item if you complain they are breaking eBays Ts&Cs by false advertising
They'll usually try to get you to accept 50% refund & keep the item, but if you push them and tell them you want them to send you a pre-pay box to return the item for full refund & will contact eBay about their false advert, 90% of the time they refund in full and you get an automated message from eBay saying you do not need to do anything else nor return the item
And tbh, I feel no sorrow for them losing any money considering they know they're scamming so many people with fakes
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Yep, you can find hidden honest gems shops, but like I say, you have to sift through the 90% of fakes to find that 10% pot of gold
I'd rather pay the extra to buy from a real online shop than use eBay these days
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Does factory sealed mean anything when buying on ebay ? Or is there a workaround for that too ? like fake seals or stickers
boydsc331 said:
Does factory sealed mean anything when buying on ebay ? Or is there a workaround for that too ? like fake seals or stickers
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Everything is possible on eBay, easy enough to buy shrink-wrap and claim it is factory sealed
Stickers have often been faked
Firmware on the phone has been faked
Model number on the back of the actual phone has been faked
Model number on the box has been faked / wrong box used
Buy new if you want 100% guarantee it is what you are buying, or make sure you have a good and sure way of being refunded if you still go the eBay route
ok so I went the ebay route. I found an individual seller, not one of those cell phone stores. I got 2 of the 930FD for $460 each. Not a great price but not too bad I thought. They were factory sealed and brand new. Thankyou all for the tips and suggestions.
So I'm in the UK and i bought it on eBay, brand new in July from a seller in Sweden, it's been great but noticed yesterday that something internally has come loose and is moving about (maybe a camera component as it's in the top half)
The seller is giving me the silent treatment so far but i wondered if i would be returning it to them or direct to Oneplus? and where?
Tia!
You'll still be covered by Paypal, so get a claim in ASAP. Also, the IN2020 model is the Chinese variant, so won't be covered by warranty in the UK.
Yes this is what i thought regarding the CH variant, just went through the repair steps on UK oneplus site and looked like it was going to let me return it? didn't complete though as i haven't got a temp phone yet.
A PP claim would involve a full refund tho and i'm not sure i need to do that? Could maybe save some quids though as the 8pro is £70 cheaper now
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You'll still be covered by Paypal, so get a claim in ASAP.
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PayPal will only cover a SNAD (Significantly Not As Described) claim if the fault was already there when the item was first received. It is not a warranty.
In this case the problem developed only a few days ago.
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In this case the problem developed only a few days ago.
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Go PayPal buddy, UK will return it I would have thought, they won't have parts, my OnePlus 5 went to Czech Republic when RMA'd.
Could ask but why should you if it's faulty, you as the buyer are protected way more than the seller, I've learned this the hard way, even though I wasn't at fault
Ok well i requested a return with UK oneplus so will say what they say tomoz.
I mean what will be quicker though? I will have to return it before seeing my money back, then i have to buy another which will take close to a week to arrive, prob not a lot in it i guess? but i suppose i could make the saving as well? :/
So looking at my paypal i bought this on 17th of June.
Which means i don't see any option for returning for a refund? Can't see it on paypal or ebay.
Do i have to contact paypal?
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So looking at my paypal i bought this on 17th of June.
Which means i don't see any option for returning for a refund? Can't see it on paypal or ebay.
Do i have to contact paypal?
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Afaik theres a 6 month fair usage policy globally for goods bought.. Not sure if they have to adhere to this but I'd have thought so.
You don't expect things to go wrong that soon. So you should have a case.
Tbh though they may just fix the device lol (OnePlus I mean)
There are only two valid scenarios for claiming through PayPal - Item Not Received (INR) or Significantly Not As Described (SNAD). Neither of these are true in this case (the phone was received, and was working when it was received), so there is no valid claim against PayPal.
Had the phone been bought from a UK-based seller, then the contract would have been with that seller and they would have been responsible for repair or replacement. I have no idea what the situation is in Sweden, but they may have similar legislation.
The OP may be lucky, and OnePlus UK might repair/replace (although there's no legal obligation on them to do so), but if not then any responsibility sits with the (Swedish) seller of the phone.
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So I'm in the UK and i bought it on eBay, brand new in July from a seller in Sweden, it's been great but noticed yesterday that something internally has come loose and is moving about (maybe a camera component as it's in the top half)
The seller is giving me the silent treatment so far but i wondered if i would be returning it to them or direct to Oneplus? and where?
Tia!
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Wait. So this isn't just the image stabilisation module? Because I feel something loose when I shake my phone too...
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Wait. So this isn't just the image stabilisation module? Because I feel something loose when I shake my phone too...
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Don't think so... pretty sure mine never had anything moving in it? Can some other 8 Pro owners give there's a shake and confirm it doesn't resemble a baby rattle please
And thanks for all the help and responses chaps, eBay user still not replied so still waiting to hear back from OPUK, so we will see and i will keep this thread updated
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Don't think so... pretty sure mine never had anything moving in it? Can some other 8 Pro owners give there's a shake and confirm it doesn't resemble a baby rattle please
And thanks for all the help and responses chaps, eBay user still not replied so still waiting to hear back from OPUK, so we will see and i will keep this thread updated
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Does the rattle decrease when the camera is on?
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Does the rattle decrease when the camera is on?
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Haha Yes! but i'm still 99% sure it shouldn't do it? Did yours always do it?
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Haha Yes! but i'm still 99% sure it shouldn't do it? Did yours always do it?
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Yep mine does it.
Was reading about it here some of the samsung forums https://www.bing.com/search?q=phone...8eda50e86fc85f51&pglt=547&FORM=ANNTA1&PC=U531
Honestly I can't remember if mine always did it or not.
Dang, seems fairly common across diff phones then... :/
I have dropped mine a few times while in a decent case so no signs at all from drop damage but maybe this is what dislodged it? They are prob originally held in place with double-sided sticky tape like a lot of components in phones... Whack!!
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There are only two valid scenarios for claiming through PayPal - Item Not Received (INR) or Significantly Not As Described (SNAD). Neither of these are true in this case (the phone was received, and was working when it was received), so there is no valid claim against PayPal.
Had the phone been bought from a UK-based seller, then the contract would have been with that seller and they would have been responsible for repair or replacement. I have no idea what the situation is in Sweden, but they may have similar legislation.
The OP may be lucky, and OnePlus UK might repair/replace (although there's no legal obligation on them to do so), but if not then any responsibility sits with the (Swedish) seller of the phone.
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If someone buys something from via PayPal and it goes wrong a few weeks / months later, there's no case to answer?? That cant be right..
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Haha Yes! but i'm still 99% sure it shouldn't do it? Did yours always do it?
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They all do if mate. It's normal
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If someone buys something from via PayPal and it goes wrong a few weeks / months later, there's no case to answer?? That cant be right..
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You are buying a phone from a Seller. All that PayPal are doing in that transaction is acting as the payment processor. As part of their service, they offer protection to the Buyer against (1) Item Not Received (you pay for the phone and nothing arrives) or (2) the item being Significantly Not As Described (you receive a phone with a broken screen, or you pay for an 8 Pro and you receive an 8, or even an empty box).
They do not offer a warranty - if the item arrives, and it is as described, then PayPal's liability ends at that point.
Any warranty issues (i.e. the phone having problems some time after arriving) are the liability of the Seller and have nothing to do with PayPal. (In some cases the manufacturer will offer an additional warranty and will repair an item directly, but that's a goodwill offer on their part, not a legal obligation).
The complications in this particular case are that (1) the Buyer is in the UK and the Seller is in Sweden, (2) the Seller is not being responsive, and (3) the Buyer has admitted to having dropped the phone a number of times.
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You are buying a phone from a Seller. All that PayPal are doing in that transaction is acting as the payment processor. As part of their service, they offer protection to the Buyer against (1) Item Not Received (you pay for the phone and nothing arrives) or (2) the item being Significantly Not As Described (you receive a phone with a broken screen, or you pay for an 8 Pro and you receive an 8, or even an empty box).
They do not offer a warranty - if the item arrives, and it is as described, then PayPal's liability ends at that point.
Any warranty issues (i.e. the phone having problems some time after arriving) are the liability of the Seller and have nothing to do with PayPal. (In some cases the manufacturer will offer an additional warranty and will repair an item directly, but that's a goodwill offer on their part, not a legal obligation).
The complications in this particular case are that (1) the Buyer is in the UK and the Seller is in Sweden, (2) the Seller is not being responsive, and (3) the Buyer has admitted to having dropped the phone a number of times.
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Ah @ 3
that changes things.
fair enough, tbh i've had my fair share of crap as a seller with paypal, they're not the best customer service i've ever had lets put it that way.
Anyway, i think he'll get it sorted via RMA in the uk tbh, i think it'll work.
Or it'll be too late by the time they've fixed it.
Ok, so is dropping it from say 1 to 2 foot is not part general use? Obviously I'm not going to declare this so really it shouldn't be an issue.
I agree that Paypal don't really have a part of this, but if they offer reimbursement/guarantee on this sort of thing then yes i will take them up on that but I'm not going to push it.
Just waiting to hear back from Oneplus...