Windows 8 Start Menu First Look - Windows 8 General

...and what was the point of that? Most, of us here have been using Windows 8 for months.

JihadSquad said:
...and what was the point of that? Most, of us here have been using Windows 8 for months.
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Speak for yourself... It's not coming anywhere near my machine until Metro is gone. I've tried ClassicShell and it's ok, but I'm not really to become a statistic that says it's ok for the removal of user choice (whether to use Metro or not).

Kryten2k35 said:
Speak for yourself... It's not coming anywhere near my machine until Metro is gone. I've tried ClassicShell and it's ok, but I'm not really to become a statistic that says it's ok for the removal of user choice (whether to use Metro or not).
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Actually he speaks for most of the competent user base of this forum, you know, the Windows 8 forum.
Windows 8 is what its is and that isn't going to change in the next couple of days including the funky new efficient interface, but you are right, you do have a choice, as do we all, ill stand by mine on this forum, the Windows 8 forum, the Windows 8 OS that has "metro" built in, the windows 8 you have chosen to not want and you can stand by that choice.... just Mind the door on the way out

Kryten2k35 said:
Speak for yourself... It's not coming anywhere near my machine until Metro is gone. I've tried ClassicShell and it's ok, but I'm not really to become a statistic that says it's ok for the removal of user choice (whether to use Metro or not).
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if u dont like the metro interface.. why update to Windows 8?

Like i've seen someone else say.... people have to look at it a different way than "Oh, Microsoft just f*cked up the desktop with sh*tty Metro". They didn't. Metro is basically the Start menu.... the same place that everyone normally had to go to launch an app if they didn't have a shortcut on the desktop to being with.

elementaldragon said:
Like i've seen someone else say.... people have to look at it a different way than "Oh, Microsoft just f*cked up the desktop with sh*tty Metro". They didn't. Metro is basically the Start menu.... the same place that everyone normally had to go to launch an app if they didn't have a shortcut on the desktop to being with.
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Not entirely true, but you can surely look at it this way. But those who say MSFT ****ed up are essentially the same bunch who moaned about XP, Vista and Windows 7. You can't win them. They'll moan and sell their kidneys to buy Apple products and then moan there and cycle goes on.
To each their own.

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When can we get WM7 in HD2 ??????

I want to ask if we can get wm7 in HD2
after week, month
Please can you answer me Is it possible to run wm7 in HD2
And when we can get
and What is the difficulty of it
Thank you
m_mansour2 said:
I want to ask if we can get wm7 in HD2
after week, month
Please can you answer me Is it possible to run wm7 in HD2
And when we can get
and What is the difficulty of it
Thank you
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Unfortunately not and probably not for the foreseable future. Everyone is still waiting for NAND Android which appartantly was beleived that a fully working NAND ROM would be released near the end of September. Looks as tho its taking alot longer than they thought it would. However Android seem to be the main focus and not much is known about the development of WP7 on the HD2 apart from somebody has done it but it can't be released yet probably not much is working on it so just keep looking out every week or so as It won't be out anytime soon
why would you want it? it is inferior to WinMo 6.5 in most key areas
1. tethering (while it does support it, most of if not all of the harware is locked so the functionality is not exposed)
2. copy paste (yeah yeah we hear it's coming but it should have been there from the get go)
3. functionality as removable storage is not present nor is it supported by wp7 if you hack it to work (requires a hack on eacj host PC you connect the phone to)
4. UI customizing (WTF were they thinking?)
5. multi tasking for third party apps (they have appearantly reversed decisions on this)
6. BT functionality is limited.
No. 
          
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anhyeuemmaimai said:
why would you want it? it is inferior to WinMo 6.5 in most key areas
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for me, cause i want a fast and stable system (sense isnt this rock stable and standard ui gives me not enough informations)...
anhyeuemmaimai said:
1. tethering (while it does support it, most of if not all of the harware is locked so the functionality is not exposed)
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never needed
anhyeuemmaimai said:
2. copy paste (yeah yeah we hear it's coming but it should have been there from the get go)
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i used it a couple of times and it was always hard bull
anhyeuemmaimai said:
3. functionality as removable storage is not present nor is it supported by wp7 if you hack it to work (requires a hack on eacj host PC you connect the phone to)
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pain in the ass...realy, hope ms will support this in future....but the main thing i need this, the media player didnt support playback my folder structure...so i dont care
anhyeuemmaimai said:
4. UI customizing (WTF were they thinking?)
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dont care
anhyeuemmaimai said:
5. multi tasking for third party apps (they have appearantly reversed decisions on this)
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dont care
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6. BT functionality is limited.
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dont care
0711 said:
for me, cause i want a fast and stable system (sense isnt this rock stable and standard ui gives me not enough informations)...
never needed
i used it a couple of times and it was always hard bull
pain in the ass...realy, hope ms will support this in future....but the main thing i need this, the media player didnt support playback my folder structure...so i dont care
dont care
dont care
dont care
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tHUS,
We DONT CARE
0711 said:
for me, cause i want a fast and stable system (sense isnt this rock stable and standard ui gives me not enough informations)...
never needed
i used it a couple of times and it was always hard bull
pain in the ass...realy, hope ms will support this in future....but the main thing i need this, the media player didnt support playback my folder structure...so i dont care
dont care
dont care
dont care
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Firstly visit www.htc.com and make sure you're running the latest ROM.
Then install SPB Mobile Shell 3.5, it's available via the MS market place as a free trial.
Also install S2P, it's a great music player which you can direct to monitor specific folders rather than adding every mp3 on your phone. Also re-size or replace your album art to 480x480 as it can take advantage of this.
I've done the above and have a fast, efficient and most importantly, stable Leo.
You can give it a go for no more than what? 30 minutes of your life? Do it next time you're sat on the toilet.
0711 said:
for me, cause i want a fast and stable system (sense isnt this rock stable and standard ui gives me not enough informations)...
never needed
i used it a couple of times and it was always hard bull
pain in the ass...realy, hope ms will support this in future....but the main thing i need this, the media player didnt support playback my folder structure...so i dont care
dont care
dont care
dont care
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fast stable OS? rally? reports are wp7 is slower at launching apps than it's predcessor....
just because you don't need it does not mean it is not a significant shortcoming
you have issues if you can't use copy and paste (you know something that has been a staple of windows since it's inception over 25 years ago)
no way to change the UI to your liking? YAY! I get the same crappy look as everyone else..
Multitasking is essential unless you love having those long delays in WP7 when launching apps over and over again because you are using an app and you get a ph call.... better hope your developer wrote that app correctly so it saves your state......
BT file transfer something from your friend's phone to yours? Opps you are SOL.....
anhyeuemmaimai said:
fast stable OS? rally? reports are wp7 is slower at launching apps than it's predcessor....
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Seriously, forget any report or review you read. Play with it yourself. I was VERY skeptical about WP7 and was utterly overwhelmed by it when I had a go with a HD7 recently. Seriously, it really is the smoothest and fastest UI I've ever seen, and it all makes sense when you're actually using it and not just watching a video.
anhyeuemmaimai said:
Multitasking is essential unless you love having those long delays in WP7 when launching apps over and over again because you are using an app and you get a ph call.... better hope your developer wrote that app correctly so it saves your state......
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That's exactly the point... it's down to the developers to correctly code their apps to save state when required. That means Microsoft have put in place a way to handle multiple applications being used asynchronously.
I cant wait for WP7 to work properly on the HD2 because I really want to start playing the xbox live games on it. But I doubt itll be fast and stable lol, I imagine it will be quite slow and crappy. + very ugly
anhyeuemmaimai said:
why would you want it? it is inferior to WinMo 6.5 in most key areas
1. tethering (while it does support it, most of if not all of the harware is locked so the functionality is not exposed)
2. copy paste (yeah yeah we hear it's coming but it should have been there from the get go)
3. functionality as removable storage is not present nor is it supported by wp7 if you hack it to work (requires a hack on eacj host PC you connect the phone to)
4. UI customizing (WTF were they thinking?)
5. multi tasking for third party apps (they have appearantly reversed decisions on this)
6. BT functionality is limited.
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7. It will rape your SD card. WP7 actually uses the "secure" in secure digital.
Callumpy said:
I cant wait for WP7 to work properly on the HD2 because I really want to start playing the xbox live games on it. But I doubt itll be fast and stable lol, I imagine it will be quite slow and crappy. + very ugly
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Don't hold your breath for any of those features seen as WP7 has a private key which bonds the hardware and software so i can't see the HD2 ever accessing any of the main features of WP7 (online anyway).
johncmolyneux said:
Seriously, forget any report or review you read. Play with it yourself. I was VERY skeptical about WP7 and was utterly overwhelmed by it when I had a go with a HD7 recently. Seriously, it really is the smoothest and fastest UI I've ever seen, and it all makes sense when you're actually using it and not just watching a video.
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I've posted about it before, I wouldn't say I found it slow, more long winded.
Rather than opening the apps instantly it seemed to want to make a song and dance about everything when really I just wanted to get going.
The HTC hub and weather for instance takes it to the extreme (not recomended for people who suffer travel sickness!)
Ok it's not "go away and make a cuppa" time (or go away and read War and Peace like when a BB reboots), but I did find it frustrating. It may indeed be quicker than on the HD2, but it certainly didn't feel it.
I kept wanting to open task manager to see how many apps were running and slowing it down.
xaccers said:
I've posted about it before, I wouldn't say I found it slow, more long winded.
Rather than opening the apps instantly it seemed to want to make a song and dance about everything when really I just wanted to get going.
The HTC hub and weather for instance takes it to the extreme (not recomended for people who suffer travel sickness!)
Ok it's not "go away and make a cuppa" time (or go away and read War and Peace like when a BB reboots), but I did find it frustrating. It may indeed be quicker than on the HD2, but it certainly didn't feel it.
I kept wanting to open task manager to see how many apps were running and slowing it down.
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Yeah, I do agree that a lot goes on when you run something. There's always some transition or other taking place, and I can see that this would annoy some people instantly, and everyone else eventually. I didn't dig around looking for any customisation options for the UI, so I don't know if it can be tidied up in any way (like Android's animation options in display settings).
The HTC stuff was way more excessive than just regular apps though. Totally!
H3ALY said:
Don't hold your breath for any of those features seen as WP7 has a private key which bonds the hardware and software so i can't see the HD2 ever accessing any of the main features of WP7 (online anyway).
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Holy crap, that sucks. Time to save up for a HD7 then.
This thread makes good points. I can now say I can wait for WP7.
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H3ALY said:
Don't hold your breath for any of those features seen as WP7 has a private key which bonds the hardware and software so i can't see the HD2 ever accessing any of the main features of WP7 (online anyway).
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If you can jailbreak an iphone something similar will appear for this. I have high hopes for the future of this but probably won't have picked up enough for me to want it until next december when my contract finally ends lol
Jammie_1989 said:
If you can jailbreak an iphone something similar will appear for this. I have high hopes for the future of this but probably won't have picked up enough for me to want it until next december when my contract finally ends lol
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Think of it like xbox live on the 360 with the hacked firmwares. The chefs can do as much as they like to keep spoofing the phones so users will be able to use Zune, Windows Live, Xbox Live and other cloud services but either way Microsoft are not stupid and will keep putting a stop to it it will be short lived attempts. I would like WP7 on my HD2 myself but you have to be realistic MS have worked on a new OS and they will want to protect their new investment. IF WP7 is ported i'm pretty sure we wont have the online features for long and if anything WP7 on the HD2 will be more of a ZUNE player (offline). Don't compare the iPhone to the HD2 the iPhone is jailbroken to make use of the features it "has" this is a totally different kettle of fish porting an OS then expecting full features.
about the online cloud service, i think it is too early to say it can not be unlocked.
MS always do not want other people to crack the system. but, as you can see, windows 7 has been cracked perfectly.
just give developers more time to do their work. time will come
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about the online cloud service, i think it is too early to say it can not be unlocked.
MS always do not want other people to crack the system. but, as you can see, windows 7 has been cracked perfectly.
just give developers more time to do their work. time will come
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How is a desktop/Laptop/Netbook/Tablet operating system anything like an OS for a smartphone that is locked to hardware and tied with a private key to the software. I've not said they won't get it running no doubt they will get the OS to run but the key features probally not be something that will be avaliable (online).

Ok, but why?

Ok, so Ubuntu and now Debian can run on HD2. It's great, it's amazing but is it any use?
Why would you need a software designed for a pc to work on a device with less than 4 ro 5 times the screen size and with so less buttons?
I am by no means going against this, I am just thinking what use could this be.
No tomatoes please.
1. Make your phone cooler
2. You have a new "computer"
PC in a pocket. there are things that a full desktop environment can do, that a mobile one cannot. there are tools available to desktop PC's that haven't been ported to mobile ones for lack of necessity.
personally i do a lot of side job computer repair for friends and such, and it would be a lot nicer to have my phone double as a laptop, rather than carry around my actual laptop wherever i go. of course i dont always need my laptop when i do repairs, but sometimes i do for one reason or another.
so having a much more mobile and lightweight alternative to that is a very big bonus. and of course like the previous post.... it it pretty fun to show off ;-)
Uhh dude, why not? Why put a differnet rom on a phone, because its Great to do that and give ya a good feeling about it, even beter if you can make one.
Same here, its cool, its something else, its sweet.
ofcourse, doing things directly to the phone is way more trouble than having a laptop but you can leave some automatizations like 1click script to have your ssh or ftp server. or just place a test http site to show to your client on its own pc and you have it ready on the go. there are millions of posibilities. is up to you how far you can go.
Well, I can only really think of one application fire me. I work at subway and my boss wants us to take courses at subway university, which is online. But they aren't supported by my mobile browser, so having a quick ubuntu desktop on my phone would provide the advantage to study when I'm not at home. But other than that, ubuntu is just awesome!
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It's more advanced in many aspects, though it could be annoying sometimes
Ok, but why?
Because we can
Because HD2 is King.....
And a King can have any number of queens....
If you have to ask this question ("why"), then u really don't get xda-developer
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You could run it as a Server. Strong processor, very little power consumption.
For example.
you forget one thing. you're not forced to put it on the device!
No one is forcing you to change to android or install WP7. yet you might go for them because they offer you more eye candy, applications, or just because you want to.
and that's what people here are doing. simply one more option for people who need a portable PC OS, for fun, or because they need it.
hardik1us said:
Because HD2 is King.....
And a King can have any number of queens....
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+1, HD2 is king of kings
hopkinskong said:
1. Make your phone cooler
2. You have a new "computer"
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That's intersting, but i want know, it's the "computer" everything worked fine!
Because if i can't used it make a call,or send msm, that's too bad.
bu the way, how can i get it? thanks!
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because hd2 is king.....
And a king can have any number of queens....
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国王可以有任意数量的皇后~哈哈,x:d
I like ubuntu on my home computer, but its a little awkward on my hd2... still, its so awesome to be able to do so many things with the hd2!!!
You can use it as a server, very very very low consumption. It did the trick for me (mail + web, very light, very fast!)
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That's intersting, but i want know, it's the "computer" everything worked fine!
Because if i can't used it make a call,or send msm, that's too bad.
bu the way, how can i get it? thanks!
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You don't make phone calls with a computer do you.
I think the most attracting part is to plug in some keyboard and mouse, fire up some commands through terminal over the mobile network -- A dream machine!!!
WHY!? Cause you can. why do some people have like 10 hauses, 50 cars, 5 boats... 2 planes. cause they can. thats why android, wm6.1, wm 6.5.x, mwp7,7.5, ubuntu... cause we can

How does one disable expiration of Windows 8 Consumer Preview?

Looks like Windows 8 expires next year on 1/15. Any way to disable that function so that it doesn't lock down my computer?
Why?
I any case, there'll be a public beta released in the next few months I'd say anyway.
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I'm not sure you can. Also, it technically isn't deactivated, but rather nuetered. It doesn't get updates, force shut downs every 2 hours, you can't access free MS software, ect. Basically, it drives you mad until you go so insane you get forced into upgrading.
qipengart said:
Looks like Windows 8 expires next year on 1/15. Any way to disable that function so that it doesn't lock down my computer?
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No.
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qipengart said:
Looks like Windows 8 expires next year on 1/15. Any way to disable that function so that it doesn't lock down my computer?
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One does not disable that time bomb.....at least as far as XDA-Dev is concerned.
Moving along, nothing to see
qipengart said:
Looks like Windows 8 expires next year on 1/15. Any way to disable that function so that it doesn't lock down my computer?
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nah.. the 1/15 is already the extended version.
i didn't found anything after googling for 5 minute.
well, just wait till the full version comes, and wait for the pirate to help you
derpotato said:
nah.. the 1/15 is already the extended version.
i didn't found anything after googling for 5 minute.
well, just wait till the full version comes, and wait for the pirate to help you
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I don't believe it's ethical or within forum rules to advocate piracy man.
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ShadowEO said:
I don't believe it's ethical or within forum rules to advocate piracy man.
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no one said anything about software piracy. Also, one can only illegally use windows IF they use an illegal key. Disabling/enabling windows activation files for development / testing purposes, is not so long as they dont use any product key at all. Plus, there are built in commands to extend the activation period for a set amount of times and can be reset 3 times.
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no one said anything about software piracy. Also, one can only illegally use windows IF they use an illegal key. Disabling/enabling windows activation files for development / testing purposes, is not so long as they dont use any product key at all. Plus, there are built in commands to extend the activation period for a set amount of times and can be reset 3 times.
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so the phrase "wait for the pirate to help you" obviously isnt hinting at piracy, right?
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no one said anything about software piracy. Also, one can only illegally use windows IF they use an illegal key. Disabling/enabling windows activation files for development / testing purposes, is not so long as they dont use any product key at all. Plus, there are built in commands to extend the activation period for a set amount of times and can be reset 3 times.
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using a product outside of its original intended use, hacked or stolen, is still piracy, you are using something that you have not paid for, whether or not there are exploits to get around that is irrelevant. Dude, it costs next to nothing to buy it so just buy it an feel good that your supporting developers rather than trying to rip them off
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Oh, "outside original intended use" is pretty much what hacking is all about. Mind you, that's usually a matter of adding functionality, not of bypassing license restrictions (which is exactly what the OP is asking for, and is, by all intents and purposes, piracy).
Just buy the damn OS for $40 US and use the release version instead of the buggy pre-release. I believe you can even install it over the existing pre-release and keep your files, if backing up is too much trouble. http://www.microsoftstore.com/store...dows_8_Pro?WT.mc_id=MSCOM_HP_nav_BuyWSoftware
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. Mind you, that's usually a matter of adding functionality, not of bypassing license restrictions (which is exactly what the OP is asking for, and is, by all intents and purposes, piracy).
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my point exactly. I've now updated about half a dozen devices, its so stupidly cheap it would be madness not doing it, any vista era laptop is BETTER than new with it, the age old "excuses" for piracy just don't hold any water at this price point.
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so the phrase "wait for the pirate to help you" obviously isnt hinting at piracy, right?
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Well I never saw that part... Lol. However, I do make a valid point. Microsoft sells software, sure, but it's the keys they actually care about. I actually already disabled the activation utilities in windows 8 pro last night because it came up on a fresh install and crashed my computer. Another valid reason to remove it. I was in middle of watching something and the new activation came up in a metro ui windows and refused to close. Next thing I know, a BSOD came up with a video crash error. Since windows is so cheap, I do plan to buy the pro upgrade, just not right this minute.
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Well I never saw that part... Lol. However, I do make a valid point. Microsoft sells software, sure, but it's the keys they actually care about. I actually already disabled the activation utilities in windows 8 pro last night because it came up on a fresh install and crashed my computer. Another valid reason to remove it. I was in middle of watching something and the new activation came up in a metro ui windows and refused to close. Next thing I know, a BSOD came up with a video crash error. Since windows is so cheap, I do plan to buy the pro upgrade, just not right this minute.
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while you plan to buy it, what your doing now is still piracy and still frowned apon. the easiest and most effective way to cure activation related crashes is to........actually activate it
Using the already included activation tools that are built in to windows to temporarily disable a buggy subsystem is not piracy. By right, I am given 30 days of free usage on any copy of windows when absent of a product key. I am part of the tech net and msdn and know all about windows, and all of its components, subsystems, and legalities. Trust me when I say that disabling activation during the first 30 days is not by any means even partially shady. Just. E wary after
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Using the already included activation tools that are built in to windows to temporarily disable a buggy subsystem is not piracy. By right, I am given 30 days of free usage on any copy of windows when absent of a product key. I am part of the tech net and msdn and know all about windows, and all of its components, subsystems, and legalities. Trust me when I say that disabling activation during the first 30 days is not by any means even partially shady. Just. E wary after
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everybody's on tech net huh!
kinda makes you wonder what your doing messing about with not activating it...
yes you have 30 days to eval it, but heres the thing, since you haven't paid for it, and you have access to technet, I assume that's where you got your copy of it? what I fail to understand then is why you haven't activated it with the key you generated from them...
unless you didn't get it from TechNet , you cant download it without buying it first, unless you got it through alternative channels, but then why would you when you have access to TechNet and not use it....
many questions...
Problem... solved? Maybe? Haha.
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everybody's on tech net huh!
Kinda makes you wonder what your doing messing about with not activating it...
Yes you have 30 days to eval it, but here's the thing... since you haven't paid for it, (and you have access to TechNet) I assume that's where you got your copy of it? What I fail to understand then is why you haven't activated it with the key you generated from them...
Unless you get it from TechNet , you can't download it without buying it first. Unless you got it through alternative channels... but then why would you when you have access to TechNet and not use it...
many questions...
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Well, I just simply do not have a premium subscription that would allow me access to said keys. I just get copies of things for free for evaluation only. i will be upgrading my TechNet license to premium before too long once i get some more money. The other reason is for testing. i know windows 8 is great, but i want to run a semi-long term test to make sure that windows can hold up to all that i need and do every day. Hence the 30 day evaluation. On average, my computers have about 280GB of nothing but just programs for development (website, source, etc...) and programs for places such as this for building ROMs, and that takes A LOT of space already.
So basically, i disabled the activation out of pure annoyance, and it doesn't need to be activated when merely evaluating the Install. Second, if that is what happens every time it comes up, then i will definitely figure out a way to keep using the older Consumer Preview that just expired on monday, or settle for windows 7 again. Man I had EVERYTHING set up on it. Good for computer repair, ROM building, building custom Windows OS copies for licensed redistribution, etc... You name it, i had it... lol.

Xbox Music App for Windows 7 ?

Hi,
does anyone tried to port the Xbox Music App to Windows 7 ?
Is it possible, or to run with virual machine and dll library of Win 8 ?
i really need this
Maybe someone can put this extracted app to this thread, i can try to run the exe
saywa said:
Hi,
does anyone tried to port the Xbox Music App to Windows 7 ?
Is it possible, or to run with virual machine and dll library of Win 8 ?
i really need this
Maybe someone can put this extracted app to this thread, i can try to run the exe
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The Xbox Music app for Windows 8 is built using the WinRT runtime, which is not available on Windows 7. To my knowledge this is not possible, also with an app like Xbox Music, I think hacking around that would be a bad idea for various reasons. Furthermore, the entire app 'experience' (full screen, metro driven environment) is not even remotely supported in Windows 7, so assuming you could 'trick' the WinRT backend onto Windows 7, the OS and App are not going to get along well at all, let alone if all of this was done somehow, I peg the chances of buying/streaming/etc actually working as close to 0.
I have Windows 8 Pro, custom build, nothing special though and even with this I can't stream or purchase song's on my Windows 8 Xbox Music app, despite hours of troubleshooting, there is quite a bit going on in the background for apps like Xbox Music.
Apologies, if that was more information than you wanted, anyhow that's my take on this. Hope it helps.
Why would you *want* to, though? Xbox Music is a crap app compared to what it "replaces", the Zune app. Zune runs great on Win7 (and also runs on Win8, in desktop mode) and is still available for download from http://zune.net. Xbox Music Pass and Zune Pass are the same thing; I can still stream and download my music using either app... but where Xbox Music is likely to tell me that for some reason it can't play the track, or to stutter or lag when picking or switching songs, Zune is capable of such crazy and advanced features as playing a Smart DJ list based on a specific song, rather than just based on an artist, and you can mark songs as "disliked" to avoid them playing again.
MS seriously screwed the pooch with their Xbox Music app on the PC... and for Windows RT, you can't even go back to Zune! Possibly my biggest disappointment in the new OS.
i just need it, you can't understand, many of us need it, if you dont like it, others will do.
It could be emulated.
I'm just confused what feature of the new app you're looking for. For *everything* that I've found except usability with a touchscreen, Zune is better. If you have a touchscreen, you should definitely be running Win8 anyhow. Let me know what you're looking for and I'll help you if I can, but I'm not going to put effort into supporting an inferior app on an older platform for the sake of "i just need it, you can't understand"!
saywa said:
i just need it
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If it is that much of a requirement just get windows 8.
saywa said:
you can't understand
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How incredibly closed minded that is. How do you know I can't understand? just a tip, insulting peoples intelligence is no way to get help.
ok i didnt wanted to say there but there is a song of a good friend, JUST BECAUSE of THAT ! Only There
simple as hell, i cant and i dont want to get windows 8 (other reasons and dont ask for them too)
i know its a simple job porting that app for a good developer as you all are in here (many)
i know Zune is better but i dont know why microsoft is cutting the limit of windows 7
i can also pay if you can emulate or port or extract that app so that its working on windows 7, you dont have to reply if you dont know how to do it or annoy me asking why i want it (as now you know it but still trynna continue )
sorry but true story
saywa said:
ok i didnt wanted to say there but there is a song of a good friend, JUST BECAUSE of THAT ! Only There
simple as hell, i cant and i dont want to get windows 8 (other reasons and dont ask for them too)
i know its a simple job porting that app for a good developer as you all are in here (many)
i know Zune is better but i dont know why microsoft is cutting the limit of windows 7
i can also pay if you can emulate or port or extract that app so that its working on windows 7, you dont have to reply if you dont know how to do it or annoy me asking why i want it (as now you know it but still trynna continue )
sorry but true story
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It's a javascript/HTML app. Porting is possible, but difficult, and I don't believe anyone actually cares enough to do it. If it's that important to you, do it yourself, or convince someone you know to do it. Also note that it will be illegal.
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It's a javascript/HTML app. Porting is possible, but difficult, and I don't believe anyone actually cares enough to do it. If it's that important to you, do it yourself, or convince someone you know to do it. Also note that it will be illegal.
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finally a better answer
hacking anything without premission is illegal, so thats not a problem, but no one cares, as the internet exists
and as i said, i would pay, so if someone can do that simple job of a pro developer, you can contact me.
i bet someday some one will do this, i just want to boost this ! ;D
PS : i know more than the basics of Javascript and HTML, but it isnt enough, maybe i give a try, but anyway, i dont have windows 8, so could anyone extract it and upload it so devs can start deving ! ? !
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hacking anything without premission is illegal
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And we don't have permission from microsoft to do this
saywa said:
PS : i know more than the basics of Javascript and HTML, but it isnt enough, maybe i give a try, but anyway, i dont have windows 8, so could anyone extract it and upload it so devs can start deving ! ? !
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It's better to send your enthusiasm to another direction. Looks like you can't even imagine how is it difficult.
Though mb after hundreds of years you'll achieve something.
Meh. A lot of the stuff that goes on XDA-Devs is illegal somewhere, often right here in the USA. So long as it doesn't really piss off the big companies or the government (and I mean *really* piss off, not "meh, they aren't worth the effort" grade of annoyance) though, it's usually fine. Keep it justifiably clean. For example, porting a free app from one OS to another - even without the developer's permission - seems perfectly reasonable, especially if you leave any in-app advertising intact.
I still don't understand why this is desired, though. The OP doesn't quite seem to understand that people are trying to help solve his or her problem. There's no need to get defensive. When I ask "why", it's not "you're an idiot for wanting this"; it's "this is hard and there's probably a better way to do whatever you're trying to do". So... there's a song. It's on the Xbox Music marketplace but not the Zune marketplace? That's weird, since so far as I've seen thus far they are completely identical right down to the top downloaded songs lists at any given time (meaning MS doesn't distinguish between them on the server side). Please actually explain what the problem is, if you want people to help you.
Frankly, I expect most of us see the Xbox Music app as crap and/or Win7 as legacy and boring. There are plenty of challenges in the new OS that are much more interesting; flattering our skills and offering the appeal of a challenge only works when people are looking for something to do. Personally, I would *much* rather spend my time trying to get Pidgin running on Windows RT (to replace the broken built-in messenger) than try to get the awful Xbox Music app running on an OS that I'm using less and less... and it's a more interesting challenge, too.
Oh, one more thing that people seem to forget a lot (especially the newcomers): XDA-Devs is a *developer* forum. It is not a "make my phone|tablet|PC|whatever really cool!" forum. Nor is it a feature request forum, a tech support forum, a ranting-and-raving forum, or a piracy forum. In fact, requesting most of those is against the forum rules to one degree or another. If you're posting a new thread in dev&hacking, you should be offering something you developed, a hack you found, or something else of that nature.
I'd like to point out that not all hacking is illegal.
If you do t know how to do it and know one seems enthused about, it seems you're SOL
What ever you say, i only can be satisfied if i get the app working on Windows 7, what you say is just leaving comments, i dont give any **** what you think is illegal or not. One of you simply said its HTML and Javascript, and you think that is hard as hell ? I cant confirm and i can bet it isn't just JS and HTML as it's a mix of Zune, iTunes, Spotify, but YOU said this, and YOU wanted to talk.
You cant ask for reasons if you wont understand. So you dont have to post me posts that i wont read.
Do it or leave without comment, damn. PM me if you are interested.
Ok, keep me in the loop
Useless post of a useless guy
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What ever you say, i only can be satisfied if i get the app working on Windows 7, what you say is just leaving comments, i dont give any **** what you think is illegal or not. One of you simply said its HTML and Javascript, and you think that is hard as hell ? I cant confirm and i can bet it isn't just JS and HTML as it's a mix of Zune, iTunes, Spotify, but YOU said this, and YOU wanted to talk.
You cant ask for reasons if you wont understand. So you dont have to post me posts that i wont read.
Do it or leave without comment, damn. PM me if you are interested.
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It's not run of the mill JS and HTML, that part would be easy. The hard part is that that JS and HTML requires custom libraries that aren't present in Windows 7, and backporting them would be damn near impossible.
saywa said:
What ever you say, i only can be satisfied if i get the app working on Windows 7, what you say is just leaving comments, i dont give any **** what you think is illegal or not. One of you simply said its HTML and Javascript, and you think that is hard as hell ? I cant confirm and i can bet it isn't just JS and HTML as it's a mix of Zune, iTunes, Spotify, but YOU said this, and YOU wanted to talk.
You cant ask for reasons if you wont understand. So you dont have to post me posts that i wont read.
Do it or leave without comment, damn. PM me if you are interested.
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you keep saying that we won't understand, just tell us rather than being all cryptic. Name the one reason that you need the xbox music app cause as GoodDayToDie said, the content is identical (I just checked myself) the only difference being that zune is much more useful.
EDIT: Would I be wrong in saying it is because you want the 30 day trial from xbox music rather than the 14 day trial you get in zune?
I already SAID the reason DUDE, just read the text, BUT you still dont do and continue annoyin ****
you all talkin ****, im searching professional devs, which could get paid if they want to, you all are noobs (except GoodDay2Die, who never said its hard, just asked for reason, that i answered and maybe its not his area)
i dont think that back porting libraries are that hard though, and still don't believe that Xbox Music is just HTML, JS, as Zune is in native code and Xbox Music is upgraded stuff of that. JS is impossible in here, unlogic pure. Net, silverlight, any thing is in there, and again i dont have this, i just saw some images, and no one confirmed or extracted that.
Still talking **** ?!
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I already SAID the reason DUDE, just read the text, BUT you still dont do and continue annoyin ****
you all talkin ****, im searching professional devs, which could get paid if they want to, you all are noobs (except GoodDay2Die, who never said its hard, just asked for reason, that i answered and maybe its not his area)
i dont think that back porting libraries are that hard though, and still don't believe that Xbox Music is just HTML, JS, as Zune is in native code and Xbox Music is upgraded stuff of that. JS is impossible in here, unlogic pure. Net, silverlight, any thing is in there, and again i dont have this, i just saw some images, and no one confirmed or extracted that.
Still talking **** ?!
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It's not happening, you obviously don't have the skill, and any serious dev is just going to laugh at you. It would be an insane amount of work to do this, and I doubt that you have the budget to do it. Use the Zune app, upgrade to Windows 8, or go without. You obviously don't understand WinRT, and now you're just being an ass. The devs here do things on a voluntary basis and no one is going to help you when you're rude, and seemingly don't understand the vastness of what you're asking at all.

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I have just gotten my 950 xl. I got it very cheap. I am planning to change it with a nexus 6p. The phone self has all hardware I want, but i am afraid of software problems.
I am a android user since I have moved from Windows Mobile because android is open. I use Web browsing too much. (I use between 15-20 gb!)
Therfore it is nice to be able to block ads. Is it possible on Windows phone 10?
I am not sure why are you afraid of the software problems. Android has also awful lot flaws...
I came from IOS/Android.... and I find them both boring... my XL 950 is on its way ))
as for the Adblock , I am also looking forward to have some info about softwares like adaway...
Hopefully someone will create an ad-block extension for Edge once extension support arrives. Failing that I know Firefox for Windows 10 is at least being worked on. I'd be happy with either!
Windows phone is no go for me without adblock.
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Windows phone is no go for me without adblock.
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then it´s a no go for you because there is no adblocker for Windows Mobile
I will change it with a Nexus 6p.
zimilaci said:
I am not sure why are you afraid of the software problems. Android has also awful lot flaws...
I came from IOS/Android.... and I find them both boring... my XL 950 is on its way ))
as for the Adblock , I am also looking forward to have some info about softwares like adaway...
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You will disappoint when you get the phone.sorry to say that.because I just return mine after half day use. Suck Microsoft
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You will disappoint when you get the phone.sorry to say that.because I just return mine after half day use. Suck Microsoft
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Why what is it you did not like ?
zimilaci said:
Why what is it you did not like ?
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I was so exciting when I saw 950xl in first time feel so powerful then I pre order on nov 16 and got it on nov 25.
Phone not smooth as what I thought.
And old issue very less apps sometime loadding a app for almost two minutes. I use it about two three hours it crush two times. Just not for me this time Microsoft still need more I mean much more improve. I just don't get it Microsoft is huge company put so ****ing money on windown phone why they just put some money for improve apps.
But phone design is good.good looking even they make with plastic but you can change battery or back cover that is good.
Every 950(not the xl) review I have read were not bad neither good. I think the big next ting will be surface phone with Intel inside. Then we will be able to run .exe files. I am excited.
Any chance someone will get access to the system folders, so we can use a "Hosts" file?
The first batch of Lumia 950/950XL's seemed to be bad, mine kept crashing and that first update bricked it. The replacement has newer version of OS and runs a lot better.
While, I also like the idea of an Intel based W10M phone. Theres still the problem that Intel has never solved and will plaque any Intel Lumia/Surface phone that's released "battery life" Android may get a lot of complaints about battery life, but its still far better than an Intel based phone so far.
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Any chance someone will get access to the system folders, so we can use a "Hosts" file.
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You'd need interop unlock which currently doesn't work on the 950/950XL. Unfortunately those are the only two Windows-based phones which cannot be unlocked in order to modify the hosts file.
Also, Edge in Continuum mode is badly in need of ad-blocking. Ads on some pages (cough, WindowsCentral) totally destroy the browser/system performance when using Continuum, especially since you get desktop pages (not mobile ones).
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You'd need interop unlock which currently doesn't work on the 950/950XL. Unfortunately those are the only two Windows-based phones which cannot be unlocked in order to modify the hosts file.
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Thanks for the info.
I haven't been around here for a while and I've clearly got a lot to catch up on

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