Dispute ebay purchases because Google publicly admitting the product is faulty? - Nexus Q Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

What do you guys think about disputing any Nexus Q ebay purchases due to the fact Google has killed it.
"not as described" as it is buggy and hardly works for me. Plus since google has publicly stopped selling it its obviously a broken item.
Think ebay would give me a refund for both devices if I dispute the purchase?

sbeckett said:
What do you guys think about disputing any Nexus Q ebay purchases due to the fact Google has killed it.
"not as described" as it is buggy and hardly works for me. Plus since google has publicly stopped selling it its obviously a broken item.
Think ebay would give me a refund for both devices if I dispute the purchase?
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You should be banned for even posting anything like this. You bought the Nexus Q with the information that was released so live with it, why should the person selling it lose the money you paid?
Google did not call it broken, the issue is that they realize the functionality is too limited for the price point.

sbeckett said:
What do you guys think about disputing any Nexus Q ebay purchases due to the fact Google has killed it.
"not as described" as it is buggy and hardly works for me. Plus since google has publicly stopped selling it its obviously a broken item.
Think ebay would give me a refund for both devices if I dispute the purchase?
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Haha, you're a piece of garbage.

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Why am garbage? Google obviously agrees with me.
They took a product that doesn't work most of the time and is overpriced and made it free. I have two of them + 4 android devices and the Nexus Q does not work most of the time!
The didn't want to deal with all of the returns or bad publicity.
Why would you return something that doesn't work if it was free?
But if you purchased something for a premium your really quick to return it when it doesn't work.
I love google and google products. They really did save some face by giving away these devices.
I escalated both ebay purchased and am waiting 72 hours for decision. Pretty much I did buy something that doesn't work as advertised and has pretty much been recalled by Google. The sellers should of accepted my return, but they did not. Will report back on outcome of dispute.

So would you be raising these claims if Google hadn't decided to prolong the release of their Nexus Q product? Somehow, I don't think so.
You bought them and it's not the sellers fault that you bought them; Google hasn't even said that the Q is 'broken'.
You are just going to have to suck it up, sorry.

I won the dispute, ebay has sent me pre-paid return stickers to send back the items to the sellers for a full refund.
Now, I like the devices - and want to keep them.
But not being fully hacked yet, and not even being able to do what they are supposed to do (play music on TV) without sound cutting out, I think I will send them back.
I think they will be re-released minus the LEDs and speaker ports but with google TV interface + the current streaming features for $200....

Ebay was wrong on this one. I hope someone deletes this topic..Shame

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sbeckett said:
I won the dispute, ebay has sent me pre-paid return stickers to send back the items to the sellers for a full refund.
Now, I like the devices - and want to keep them.
But not being fully hacked yet, and not even being able to do what they are supposed to do (play music on TV) without sound cutting out, I think I will send them back.
I think they will be re-released minus the LEDs and speaker ports but with google TV interface + the current streaming features for $200....
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You really should know what you are buying before you buy it. In cases like this especially! If you are not willing to get into the weeds and hack the Q, you should not have bought two of them handed out at a developer conference specifically to be hacked!

Google does not agree with you that there is anything wrong with the device. Noone wanted it yet for the price or were smart enough to wait and see how the development community panned out before they ordered one. Anyone that ordered one especially off of ebay knew exactly what they were getting. They graciously offered those that pre ordered it for free to generate publicity. If you do not want what they offered you should not have ordered it.
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I sure hope you get negative feedback for what you did. The sellers didn't misrepresent anything, and you probably purchased their "new unopened" nexus q's for less than msrp ($300), used them a few days, decided you would wait until they have more features after trying them out and now you are returning them. Now the sellers can't sell them as new since they have been used by you.
This is pretty much just like you bought something at a yard sale or craigslist, tried it out for a few days and now want a refund. "Buyer Beware", you should have researched more or decided to not take a chance and be an early adopter instead of screwing over a couple of people on ebay...
sbeckett said:
I won the dispute, ebay has sent me pre-paid return stickers to send back the items to the sellers for a full refund.
Now, I like the devices - and want to keep them.
But not being fully hacked yet, and not even being able to do what they are supposed to do (play music on TV) without sound cutting out, I think I will send them back.
I think they will be re-released minus the LEDs and speaker ports but with google TV interface + the current streaming features for $200....
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Boo this man!
sbeckett said:
I won the dispute, ebay has sent me pre-paid return stickers to send back the items to the sellers for a full refund.
Now, I like the devices - and want to keep them.
But not being fully hacked yet, and not even being able to do what they are supposed to do (play music on TV) without sound cutting out, I think I will send them back.
I think they will be re-released minus the LEDs and speaker ports but with google TV interface + the current streaming features for $200....
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76p_ncbffCE

sbeckett said:
I won the dispute, ebay has sent me pre-paid return stickers to send back the items to the sellers for a full refund.
Now, I like the devices - and want to keep them.
But not being fully hacked yet, and not even being able to do what they are supposed to do (play music on TV) without sound cutting out, I think I will send them back.
I think they will be re-released minus the LEDs and speaker ports but with google TV interface + the current streaming features for $200....
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Ebay's decision is based on various factors. That being said, your case sounds to me is more of a Buyer's remorse than inaccurate description of an preview device (which will not be refunded if it is buyer's remorse).
I guess the seller did not responded ebay's request for providing evidence fully or timely therefore you get this one easy. It won't be so lucky next time. I dealt with buyers like you before. All I need was to list all the evidence that shows it is buyer's remorse but not seller's fault and ebay rejected buyer's request last time.
You got lucky this time. I think the seller did not bother or was not aware such refund request or did not take it seriously to contend.

Remind me to never do any transactions with the OP

What a piece of crap. I hope the OP trips and falls and his Q goes up his a$$.

Wow. Some people these days. Bogus and garbage claim. Smh

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Beware if you buy parts from Global Direct Parts

Anybody looking to buy parts from Global Direct Parts .com beware of them, it's a scam.
I placed an order for 4 ribbon cables for HD2 phones on a sat. The next monday I wanted to add something the said it was already processed, so I had to place another order and pay shipping.
They FAQ says they can reduce min quantities if I buy at least $ 125 of parts, so I add a LCD and place order. They cancelled since now they want $ 149 min. They also went over and changed their web site, so I cannot prove anything.
After 2 weeks my parts are not here, so I call and a wiseguy said I still have to wait until the next 2 days since it was still processing.
The next day they email me they lost my package.
I reply demanding they ship another with Express delivery to make up for the poor service.
They decline and want to issue a refund, and guess what, price on items has gone up (what a coincidence).
I emailed today asking where is my refund (paid with Paypal) and they stated it takes 2 BUSINESS days to issue it.
I placed a claim on Paypal and they emailed back threaten me to stall refund indefinitely unless I remove the claim.
Sorry for this long rant, but such a poor customer service place shouldn't be allowed to do business. I invite anybody NOT to use this place.
They also falsely claim they have all the parts in USA, while they actually dropship from China, Taiwan, and Hong Kong.
Beware guys !!!
Wow. That sux
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I will agree. Terrible customer service. They say they have new or "a" stock.... the "a" stock are used parts, including damaged and unusable. the others are just in poor shape. then there's the problem with them making you pay to ship their junk back, even after it has been determined to be their error. that's just shady. then the total bs they call customer service... if your lucky to get someone, they are uneducated and clueless about anything going on. good luck trying to get answers or some management to reply to you. i own a repair shop and have spent (wasted) thousands of dollars with these losers.
BEWARE AND AVOID!!!!!
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I bought 10 Ffc and no problem I'm sorry you had pRoblems with them
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I bought a Samsung Captivate housing almost a year ago and it took about 5 days to get it. Part was new with no scratches at all.
Had no problem with them
I have bought some FFC's from them before and didnt have any issue. Good to know though if I do anything through them in the future!
I bought some. Speakers for an evo 4g about 8 months ago and all went well. About a month or 2 later I got emails from them saying that they had a major employee leave and not to trust emails coming from a. Similar company.
I had a great experience with them and the parts were perfect
Hi All,
It seems that this company went through a bit of a struggle at some point. Being a business owner myself I know that dealing with the public is not always easy especially when you have employees that are not the right fit. You can only do your best and learn from your mistakes and successes.
I just purchased tablet frames from them and they were perfect, the customer service was perfect and I am going to their website now to purchase more. I found some really hard to find products in new condition and at a great price. Personally my experience was great and I would highly recommend them. Definitely NOT a scam. They delivered.
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Clay333 said:
I bought some. Speakers for an evo 4g about 8 months ago and all went well. About a month or 2 later I got emails from them saying that they had a major employee leave and not to trust emails coming from a. Similar company.
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I think it is true that maybe a competitor is trying to sabotage them. I saw the same exact review plastered across several different review sites. I just got parts from Global Direct Parts recently. While I can't say the parts are so good, the customer service was very rapid and good. Apparently they sent an aftermarket that was suppose to be OEM. The customer service agent said the Huawei OEM parts are hard to come by and they usually get it out of refurbished phones now and some might have been refurbished before with aftermarket parts that they didn't end up catching. They immediately refunded me saying since the OEM parts is hard to come by, there is a good chance I'll get another aftermarket.
The other 3 parts they sent are good and as described. I would definitely do business with the company again.

I dont understand adorama Return Policy

It says they wont let you return notebooks or computers, but they have the tablet under notebooks? I have one here that I would like to open and inspect to compare with my amazon tablet, which ever one has "less issues" I would like to keep... but I dont know if I should open the adorama transformer?? Any help...
Call Adorama. Tell them that it will be a gift. If my dad does not like it (1. opened; 2. unopened), can I return it?
If the policy is as you state, whether opened or not, you might NOT be able to return.
Same policy on TigerDirect.
Once you get it you cannot return it for a refund, unless you refused the original delivery. All RMA issues have to be dealt with ASUS directly.
Tsk tsk tsk. ALWAYS research return/refund policies when buying anything... especially electronics.
Regardless, just return the worst one to Amazon. They don't check for serial numbers or anything. I returned my Walmart TF to Newegg and vice-versa without any issues. The UPC code is the same.
akarol said:
Tsk tsk tsk. ALWAYS research return/refund policies when buying anything... especially electronics.
Regardless, just return the worst one to Amazon. They don't check for serial numbers or anything. I returned my Walmart TF to Newegg and vice-versa without any issues. The UPC code is the same.
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^^^ and this is the reason some sites don't take returns
lqaddict said:
Same policy on TigerDirect.
Once you get it you cannot return it for a refund, unless you refused the original delivery. All RMA issues have to be dealt with ASUS directly.
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I know everyone says this about TigerDirect and i think it even says so on the website. But when I called them and told them all my issues and asked to just to just get my money back. They gave me no issues. Instantly emailed me the return label, paid for by them, and a few days later I got my money refunded too. I think I might have just gotten very lucky and got a great rep though, becuase my other times calling about the same issues I got a bunch of bs and run around. So i think if you really try the reps can do anything they want for you. haha
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ill call them tomorrow... if that's the case I will never buy from them again... and ill return the amazon one..
Thremix said:
It says they wont let you return notebooks or computers, but they have the tablet under notebooks? I have one here that I would like to open and inspect to compare with my amazon tablet, which ever one has "less issues" I would like to keep... but I dont know if I should open the adorama transformer?? Any help...
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Ok no offense, but you are exactly the reason WHY there are those kinds of return policies in the first place. I'm dead serious. Returns are expensive for retailers. They are bad enough when there are legit reasons for the return but when people do stuff like what you are attempting it's fraudulent in my opinion. Stores don't exist to work like libraries where you check out an item play with it see if it has issues and then return it when you are done playing.
If people would stop doing things like what you are attempting return procedures would likely be a bit more lax and restocking fee's wouldn't exist. Businesses are in business to make money, shocking i know. And returns are not profitable.
What you should be doing is taking any build quality issues up with the manufacturer NOT the retailer. They didn't make it and shouldn't be suffering a loss so you can play "which one will i keep". As a business owner myself i can spot people like yourself a mile away and i usually direct your business elsewhere, customers like that just aren't worth the trouble.
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Ok no offense, but you are exactly the reason WHY there are those kinds of return policies in the first place. I'm dead serious. Returns are expensive for retailers. They are bad enough when there are legit reasons for the return but when people do stuff like what you are attempting it's fraudulent in my opinion. Stores don't exist to work like libraries where you check out an item play with it see if it has issues and then return it when you are done playing.
If people would stop doing things like what you are attempting return procedures would likely be a bit more lax and restocking fee's wouldn't exist. Businesses are in business to make money, shocking i know. And returns are not profitable.
What you should be doing is taking any build quality issues up with the manufacturer NOT the retailer. They didn't make it and shouldn't be suffering a loss so you can play "which one will i keep". As a business owner myself i can spot people like yourself a mile away and i usually direct your business elsewhere, customers like that just aren't worth the trouble.
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I disagree. Online retailers need to know that people are not able to "try" things out before purchasing like a B&M. For example, recently, I bought $300 worth of sunglasses to see which pair fit my face/style. I will mail back the ones that I did not select.
Why should it be different with electronics? No major B&M electronic retailer has restocking fees anymore except Sears. I'm sure that will end eventually. For me, I will not shop at a place that has a fee when it comes to small electronics (handheld devices, phones, etc.).
Don't worry, OP. No one is getting a free lunch from Amazon either.
Just saw this on AMAZON TF101 SPECS section:
Amazon.com Returns Policies: You may return any new computer purchased from Amazon.com that is "dead on arrival," arrives in damaged condition, or is still in unopened boxes, for a full refund within 30 days of purchase. Amazon.com reserves the right to test "dead on arrival" returns and impose a customer fee equal to 15 percent of the product sales price if the customer misrepresents the condition of the product. Any returned computer that is damaged through customer misuse, is missing parts, or is in unsellable condition due to customer tampering will result in the customer being charged a higher restocking fee based on the condition of the product. Amazon.com will not accept returns of any desktop or notebook computer more than 30 days after you receive the shipment. New, used, and refurbished products purchased from Marketplace vendors are subject to the returns policy of the individual vendor.
Of course, Amazon would be flexible about a defect (vs DOA), and be more flexible than to people who say, "I just did not like it. Wasn't what I expected."
I love my TF and I am keeping one.. I just put one on craiglist for $415 I think thats a fair price.. I am not "making" any money but that was never the point.. I just wanted to make sure I got a good one... they both are great with very little light leak, they both have the unbalanced sound but I see there is a fix for this already, so some one is gonna get lucky and get a transformer locally at cost, with no tax! lol
Not to be too legalistic but as far as I know no merchant through the use of any policy or provision can excuse themselves from the obligation of selling merchandise that is fit for its intended purpose.
If I sell you a toaster that does not toast, a knife that does not cut or a tablet that bleeds light out of the sides of the screen you have a pretty good case to demand full reimbursement.
Anyone can put up a sign "All Sales Are Final" or "Absolutely No Returns" or whatever they like but store policies never ever under any circumstances allow for a seller to commit fraud. If you tell the people that you gave the money to that the item does not work as promised through their onsite advertising (i.e. no mention of unequal sound or screenshots that do not show light bleed) you are entitled to cancel the sale since they took your money and did not give you the promised goods in exchange. You not obligated to let them try again, charge you a restocking fee, give you store credit or anything else.
Obviously I'm not a lawyer so you're mileage may vary. But I have found by plainly stating that the product in question is not fit for its intended purpose and as such I would like a refund yields a mostly desirous result. If the retailer held firm I would then call my credit card company and then worse case small claims.
The key is to keep saying unfit - unusable - not as advertised. Technical terms can cause subjective analysis while those three are pretty clear and can be elaborated on but not replaced (i.e. it's unfit because I bought it listen to music but one speaker is louder than the other, it is unusable because I bought it to view photos but the screen bleeds lights from the sides, etc.).
I'm sure they will help you regardless but no reason to bow down to some internet verbiage that outright dismisses their obligations under most state laws. As far as I am concerned a product received in unadvertised condition is DOA. Might as well be a brick if it doesn't do what it's supposed to do how it's supposed to do it.
Thremix said:
It says they wont let you return notebooks or computers, but they have the tablet under notebooks? I have one here that I would like to open and inspect to compare with my amazon tablet, which ever one has "less issues" I would like to keep... but I dont know if I should open the adorama transformer?? Any help...
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Best thing is to email me directly with your order number: [email protected]
BTW the returns policy as it relates to certain items is set by the manufacturers not by Adorama.
If an item in this category is found to be faulty or damaged on arrival it will be covered under the manufacturer warranty - but needs to be returned directly the manufacturer.
Helen Oster
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Hey guys and gals, say hi to Helen. (Hi Helen, been a while since I've seen you around the internet.) She is one of the many reasons I like to use Adorama. How many companies have you seen that are this proactive? (I've heard Asus is active here too. That was an extra selling point for the TF for me.)
I usually deal with them for camera gear and they are very good about returns. Looks like their laptop policy is a wee bit different but I guess we now know why.
chimphappyhour said:
Hey guys and gals, say hi to Helen. (Hi Helen, been a while since I've seen you around the internet.) She is one of the many reasons I like to use Adorama. How many companies have you seen that are this proactive?
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Hi! That's good to hear!

WARNING! Buy At Your Own Risk

I would like to say first that I absolutely LOVE my Nexus 7 tablet. Having owned a couple of different Android tablets made by those other people (Samsung...even an iPad Mini), I can honestly say the N7 really is the best. With that being said, I would like to share my experience with them today, and I hope it helps others in being more informed about their decision to purchase in the future. Its kind of a long read, but you will be shocked at the end, so please see it through.
A week or so ago my tablet developed an issue where after waking it from standby I would have to toggle Airplane Mode on and off in order to access the internet. I was off work today so I called Google warranty about the issue. The gentleman I spoke with was very kind and, I believe, as helpful in the situation as he could be. After explaining the issue and running through some standard trouble shooting, the first technician I spoke with from Google concluded it was most likely a hardware issue and that someone from a different department (mind you, I was speaking to the warranty department already) would contact me via email in 24-48 hours.
After I hung up from him, I thought about it and something wasn't quite right. The warranty department should be able to generate a replacement or at the minimum an RMA right then, right? So I called back and asked to speak with a manager. I was transferred to a floor supervisor, explained everything that had transpired up until then, to which he promised to get to the bottom of the issue right then. He asked for my email address, which I provided, when he stated he could not find an order for a Nexus tablet. I proceeded to explain to him I purchased it from GameStop, I had the receipt with the box and date of purchase, when he abruptly cut me off to tell me he could not do anything about my warranty issue because it was bought from a third party. He explained I would have to go through the retailer or through Asus. Now, here is where my trouble with this begins. Is this not manufactured for, branded, and advertised as a GOOGLE Nexus 7 tablet...or is it brand, advertised, and sold as an Asus Nexus 7 tablet. Yes, I understand who actually manufactured it. But that is transparent. There are A LOT of products made by other manufacturers that are sold under a different brand name. In fact, there are actually quite few true "manufactures" in the world but they make and sell products daily under a different name. However, this floor supervisor was unwilling to provide me with any assistance at all. He did offer to connect me to Asus customer support.
Another hold later, and 20 something minutes into the call, I was connected to another very nice customer service rep from Asus. I again (third time) explained the issue and the steps already performed to remedy the situation. After speaking with him for a while, he agreed to issue an RMA so that one of there technicians could diagnose the problem and do a repair or replace. I asked at his point how long this process takes...TWO WEEKS. Mind you, I have only owned the tablet a total of exactly 7 weeks and 2 days. I told him that this was completely unacceptable. He then offered to upgrade my case to priority service. Again I asked for a time frame and was told this time...1-1/2 WEEKS, or 3 days faster. At this point I am furious. I asked if I could have a replacement sent out...NO. I asked if I could have one sent out with a hold on my credit card until my defective unit was received...NO. I asked if I could have a refund arranged...NO. I asked if he would be kind enough to contact GameStop to request an exchange be made...NO. MY ONLY OPTION ON A 7 WEEK OLD TABLET...A GOOGLE TABLET MIND YOU...WAS TO BE WITHOUT FOR 2 WEEKS! You have go to be kidding me! I sincerely thought Google was better than this.
I used the following analogy...you buy a brand new car. It has a warranty issue that needs fixed so you take it to the dealership at which point they say, "sorry but we cant fix it for 2 weeks" and leave you with no car. I honestly can not believe the customer service between these two companies is this poor. As well, I have had cell phones replaced by AT&T under warranty that CERTAINLY were not made by AT&T, yet Google does not share the same mindset although the tablet was clearly a Google product.
So, I write this as a warning for any of you that have purchased your tablet from GameStop, Best Buy, Staples, ect. what challenges you face should you ever need warranty service. And to those who did purchase off the Play Store exactly how Google is treating their customers. I love Google (a lot less now) but I will NEVER buy another Nexus/Google branded product again...not so much as rent a movie or buy a song from the play store. And I will take to any forum I can access to share my experience in an attempt to convince Google/Asus to improve their customer service. They have lost a customer and I implore you to share my experience with as many people as you can that may be considering a Google product or service in the future.
Here's another analogy: You buy an Apple phone from Best Buy and it develops a fault, where do you take it back to?
Buy a Google product direct from Google next time and learn about Consumer rights.
Apple is the exception in that example. Buy a Samsung, Motorola, LG, Blackberry, ect. and who handles warranty replacement? AT&T, right? ALTHOUGH it is clearly stated the MANUFACTURER warrants the product against defect. And yes...I am very aware we are not talking about AT&T, simply using it as an example.
Furthermore, I never once stated my consumer rights were violated, in fact I clearly said they offered a solution. However, from a consumer stand point, and in this case especially with the INTENDED transparency between Google and Asus, the issue was not handled with the consumer (me) in their best interest.
Feel free to flame me if you'd like, but I would put nickles to dimes that if it was you, you would feel the same way.
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You are completely right tho. The should have a shop on hand for when you call. Just for you. Only you. You. Did I mention you?
Yeah i'm talking to you.
sigaiser said:
Apple is the exception in that example. Buy a Samsung, Motorola, LG, Blackberry, ect. and who handles warranty replacement? AT&T, right? ALTHOUGH it is clearly stated the MANUFACTURER warrants the product against defect. And yes...I am very aware we are not talking about AT&T, simply using it as an example.
Furthermore, I never once stated my consumer rights were violated, in fact I clearly said they offered a solution. However, from a consumer stand point, and in this case especially with the INTENDED transparency between Google and Asus, the issue was not handled with the consumer (me) in their best interest.
Feel free to flame me if you'd like, but I would put nickles to dimes that if it was you, you would feel the same way.
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For more reports of mishandling and cruddy CS, go here:
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/nexus/mG4JXaT-SHs[1-25-false]
Feel free to add your experience....
danvee said:
For more reports of mishandling and cruddy CS, go here:
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/nexus/mG4JXaT-SHs[1-25-false]
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Thanks for the link...I posted there as well. It is cruddy. I would
D have expected more from Google in a situation like this.
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You are completely right tho. The should have a shop on hand for when you call. Just for you. Only you. You. Did I mention you?
Yeah i'm talking to you.
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I'm not going to reply, much, to your sarcasm other than to say that if you think I expect more from Google than anyone else, then you're sorely mistaken but entitled to your opinion. If you read any of the post, and you comprehend written text, you could easily deduce that I was stating their current policy (unwritten mind you) on buying from third party retailers.
With that being said, how about being constructive vs. Being a smart ass. Thanks for reading.
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djsubterrain said:
Here's another analogy: You buy an Apple phone from Best Buy and it develops a fault, where do you take it back to?
Buy a Google product direct from Google next time and learn about Consumer rights.
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Buying direct from Google won't help. When I had to have my Nexus phone replaced, under warranty, I called Google since I bought it on the play store. They gave me a number to Samsung(It was a Galaxy Nexus) and Samsung did exactly the same thing. I had to go to Wal-mart and buy a cheap flip phone to use for 2 weeks while Samsung replaced my 2 month old phone which I had bought from the Google Play Store.
It is definitely nice to go to an apple store and have a replacement in 10 minutes if you have a bad phone... I had an issue with my galaxy s4 and at&t didnt have any in stock to replace it with.... Bad experience.
I actually feel nothing is wrong with the warranty service options the OP mentioned.
It would be above average for the industry.
If I bought a premium car like Lexus then I would expect a nice loaner if my car needs works.
But if I paid for a Toyota, then it's up to the dealer ... a shuttle ride is nice enough.
I even bought my 2012N7 over ebay, haha. Worst case, I just call Asus.
Unless Google promises something and doesn't deliver ... otherwise, it's up to them (that's why I normally
talk nicely to the customer-service people).
sigaiser said:
I'm not going to reply, much, to your sarcasm other than to say that if you think I expect more from Google than anyone else, then you're sorely mistaken but entitled to your opinion. If you read any of the post, and you comprehend written text, you could easily deduce that I was stating their current policy (unwritten mind you) on buying from third party retailers.
With that being said, how about being constructive vs. Being a smart ass. Thanks for reading.
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But, I'm only good at smartass comments.
i had my nexus 4 RMA due to faulty screen and i had the most wonderful experience, the lady i spoke to gave me no trouble what so ever promptly sent me an email with the order replacement link, put the hold on my card and 2 days later brand new N4 at my door, i would actually prefer to order directly from them after that experience
Also had a good experience with the nexus 4, screen was super dim, Google sent me a new one and have me a shipping label to send my old one in the same box
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One of the reasons why I always buy from companies with excellent customer service.
Few examples..
Bought a Galaxy Nexus from Amazon and after 6months+ it developed a fault.. cant remember what it was. So me being me... its been 6months+ I contact Samsung because its been so long. They told me they can get it fixed within a week. I get it back and its worse then when i sent it. I tried again.. sent it, came back and still as bad. I contact samsung again and explain to them. They said they will contact me within a few days.
While waiting i thought what the heck... Contacted Amazon and explained Samsung has wasted my time and if possible would like a refund. They said ok right away and got my money back! Samsung contact me and I vented out to the manager/supervisor on the line and all he could say was thats great that you got a refund....
Bought a Nexus 4 direct from Google.. Again after 6months+ it starts over heating. Contact google and they said we can replace it for you no problem. They sent out a new one while i still had the faulty one.
I would pay more for a product just to have great customer service then to get it a little cheaper and have next to no customer service.
So uh, you're mad because you have to ship your tablet back to the manufacturer to replace it?
Yeah man, that's total BS! Having to send it back to the manufacturers so they can fix it, it isn't like you do that with any other product you own right?
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@ sigaiser
I understand your frustration. I have an old Nexus 7, which I bought in the UK from PC World. It developed a fault where it would not charge. PC World referred me to ASUS, who ran through various ideas to fix it (most of which I had tried after internet forum searches), gave me a code and an RMA, and told me 7 to 10 days. It was picked up by the courier for next day delivery to Triage Services, who do ASUS repairs in the UK. After 4 weeks, it came back and still had exactly the same fault. (Later, I found that Triage had replaced the motherboard.) SO after another couple of days of trying to sort it out again, I rang again and got another RMA and an email telling me to book it in. I was also told that I should have been told "up to 30 days" not 7 to 10. The courier web site this time told me I'd have to pay for the return (different courier first time) though subsequently ASUS complaints told me that that was a courier error. Away it went again, and came back with the battery re-seated. It did not charge up, so off it went again. After another couple of weeks, making a total of 8 1/2 weeks, it came back with a new wall charger - supposedly that was no longer charging (even though when it left, it happily charged my Nexus 4). I HAD told them it was not that, as 3 different chargers would not charge The Nexus 7. It lasted that day, then refused to charge fully overnight, and charging to a lower % each night. All ASUS would offer was another RMA. :crying:
In the end, I threw myself on the mercy of the team at PC World, and asked if there was anything they could do - perhaps a discount on a different tablet. They had a chat, and gave me a new Nexus 7, this time with their "Whatever Happens" replacement insurance. Result. In future I think I will be getting my stuff from them with that guarantee.:laugh:
The current Nexus 7 charges up MUCH faster than the first one ever did, so either something had been changed, or the first was always faulty.
ASUS had been helpful, but they required THREE parts of the tablet replaced before they'd replace the whole thing. I had only had one so even though I'd lost it for more than 2 months out of the 12 month guarantee they would not consider either a replacement, or even extending the warranty for the 2 months I had been without.
Triage services, on the other hand, who supposedly did the repairs, I have no time for. First time round, they booked the tablet in to their workshop 5 days after they got it (thus showing ASUS that they were working on it faster than the truth). Then clearly they never actually tried it any of the three times before returning it.
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So uh, you're mad because you have to ship your tablet back to the manufacturer to replace it?
Yeah man, that's total BS! Having to send it back to the manufacturers so they can fix it, it isn't like you do that with any other product you own right?
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No, I'm not mad I have to send it back to the manufacturer. I'm mad because that is the ONLY option to send it back. Google told me on the phone if I bought it direct from them, they would send out a replacement right then and there. So what's the difference? GameStop is an authorized retailer. It's not like it was a black market knock off from Amazon. And as far as Asus goes (who is the manufacturer yet not a reseller), they offer no way to have a replacement sent, even with a credit card hold. So the ONLY option is to go without and wait 2 weeks, or whatever the turnaround time ends up being, without the product you paid for. That's what makes me mad.
And maybe I'm missing something, but what I can't get over is the fact that it's made for Google and sold by Google, yet Google is not supporting products sold by third party retailers although it carries their name.
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I really don't see a 1-1.5 week wait as being that big of a deal, sure it would be nice to get it replaced with a new one but they do not have to offer that to you. The warranty doesn't say that they offer replacements at the first sign of an issue. Since you bought it from a 3rd party retailer I wouldn't expect Google to take care of it since it is an ASUS tablet. If you'd purchased it from the Play Store and they wouldn't help then that would be a problem.
They just couldn't move as fast as you *commanded* them too? F off.
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They just couldn't move as fast as you *commanded* them too? F off.
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Lol, whatever. Easy to hide behind a screen name. You wouldn't say it to my face so why say it online?
Either way, moderators, just close this thread. Obviously no one has the intelligence to understand the point I was attempting to make so it does no one any good for it to remain open as its only going to turn ugly.
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[Q] What's the best place to buy the Nexus 6P?

What the title says.
Google store
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Google Store today they are offering $50 off on Nexus 5X and Nexus 6P.
Or use swappa
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Carphone Warehouse if you're living in the UK, excellent prices especially if SIM free.
Google Store...
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While you're there, check out the official 6P accessories. Google just released the live cases and my o my do they look good or not.
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While you're there, check out the official 6P accessories. Google just released the live cases and my of my do they look good or not.
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I do agree they look great, but I just purchased a dbrand skin a few days ago...
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What the title says.
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Wherever it is the cheapest, total all in cost. The Google store is likely the second worst place since they charge tax to a number of states and usually don't throw in extra goodies. They are beat to the title of worst place to buy only by Best Buy where you will pay tax in every state hat has one. Newegg will charge tax to CA and a few others. IMO the best place to buy is B&H. If you have not heard of them buy without hesitation. They are a well established vendor of photographic gear with outstanding service and some of the better prices around. And when it comes to photo gear their selection is unparalleled.
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Wherever it is the cheapest, total all in cost. The Google store is likely the second worst place since they charge tax to a number of states and usually don't throw in extra goodies. They are beat to the title of worst place to buy only by Best Buy where you will pay tax in every state hat has one. Newegg will charge tax to CA and a few others. IMO the best place to buy is B&H. If you have not heard of them buy without hesitation. They are a well established vendor of photographic gear with outstanding service and some of the better prices around. And when it comes to photo gear their selection is unparalleled.
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Thanks, and I agree B&H is a great store (I actually some of my PC parts from them), now that I know that they carry the phone I'm gonna go with them. They literally have everything tech related.
Sweet I get no sales tax, a $50 Gift Card, and a selfie stick...
Just bought mint condition 64GB version from Swappa for $440. Very happy with my experiences there, both selling and buying.
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Just bought mint condition 64GB version from Swappa for $440. Very happy with my experiences there, both selling and buying.
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Or you could have bought a brand new one with a 2 year warranty (1 year extended with many credit cards) for $10 more
I got mine off Amazon, $64 GB; standard price of $549, after taxes and whatnot it came to about $600; it's a bit more expensive, but I'm glad I paid the extra because Amazon is awesome, and I'm getting a replacement shipped because my wifi module died after I unlocked the bootloader (how does that even happen?).
Got mine from Best Buy for $449 and a $50 gift card.
I was there and I already planned on getting the 6P so why not.
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I got my aluminum 64gb from Amazon for $394- plus tax. I.highly recommend Amazon
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There are members here telling you not to buy from that Google Store purely because you can save a few bucks elsewhere. But I believe this is incorrect. The Google Store is the single best place to buy from even if it costs you a few extra dollars. Why? RMA's and returns. If you buy from Google and you have a legitimate problem with your phone all you do is tell them about it and they'll give you a replacement. No proof required, and very few questions asked. It's about as easy as it gets. Even if your phone is bent. If you buy from another retailer they'll generally do whatever they can to not provide you with a replacement. Those few extra bucks you might pay via the Google Store are well worth the peace of mind that comes with knowing you'll be taken care of if something goes wrong.
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There are members here telling you not to buy from that Google Store purely because you can save a few bucks elsewhere. But I believe this is incorrect. The Google Store is the single best place to buy from even if it costs you a few extra dollars. Why? RMA's and returns. If you buy from Google and you have a legitimate problem with your phone all you do is tell them about it and they'll give you a replacement. No proof required, and very few questions asked. It's about as easy as it gets. Even if your phone is bent. If you buy from another retailer they'll generally do whatever they can to not provide you with a replacement. Those few extra bucks you might pay via the Google Store are well worth the peace of mind that comes with knowing you'll be taken care of if something goes wrong.
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A couple things need to be added because it was left out. Officially, Google says it doesn't cover accidental/water damage. Having protection plan obviously covers that. I say this because above it says "even if your phone is bent".
The other thing left out is also kinda big too. It's the part about fronting the money for the device that's going to be replaced. Google doesn't just send you another device even if it's covered under warranty. They send a email with a link to follow. You follow that and it orders the "rapid replacement" or whatever Google calls that process. It puts a hold on your credit card for whatever the device costs. Once you return the defective device (Google allows you to print out the shipping label so you don't pay for that) the hold is released. The first time I came across this process the amount was a surprise.
I asked if I didn't want to front the money could I just send the defective device in and they send the fixed device/replacement back. They said its done the other way with having a hold put on your card.
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A couple things need to be added because it was left out. Officially, Google says it doesn't cover accidental/water damage. Having protection plan obviously covers that. I say this because above it says "even if your phone is bent".
The other thing left out is also kinda big too. It's the part about fronting the money for the device that's going to be replaced. Google doesn't just send you another device even if it's covered under warranty. They send a email with a link to follow. You follow that and it orders the "rapid replacement" or whatever Google calls that process. It puts a hold on your credit card for whatever the device costs. Once you return the defective device (Google allows you to print out the shipping label so you don't pay for that) the hold is released. The first time I came across this process the amount was a surprise.
I asked if I didn't want to front the money could I just send the defective device in and they send the fixed device/replacement back. They said its done the other way with having a hold put on your card.
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A bent phone is usually a manufacture defective one, and is covered under their return policy. Accidental/water damage is not manufacture defective, so it won't be covered. Simple as that.
It's called an RMA and almost all retailers do that for returned merchandise. Look at the situation from their POV: what would keep you from not sending the defective phone back once they sent you the replacement. Again, simple as that.
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A couple things need to be added because it was left out. Officially, Google says it doesn't cover accidental/water damage. Having protection plan obviously covers that. I say this because above it says "even if your phone is bent".
The other thing left out is also kinda big too. It's the part about fronting the money for the device that's going to be replaced. Google doesn't just send you another device even if it's covered under warranty. They send a email with a link to follow. You follow that and it orders the "rapid replacement" or whatever Google calls that process. It puts a hold on your credit card for whatever the device costs. Once you return the defective device (Google allows you to print out the shipping label so you don't pay for that) the hold is released. The first time I came across this process the amount was a surprise.
I asked if I didn't want to front the money could I just send the defective device in and they send the fixed device/replacement back. They said its done the other way with having a hold put on your card.
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The bent phones aren't seen as accidental damage, there are many reports of these being replaced by Google with no questions asked. Of course you need to "front the money" as you put it. This is normal procedure when an advanced replacement is being provided to a consumer. Anyway, you're not actually being charged, they're not taking any money, all that's happening is you're authorising them to take the money in the case that you don't return the defective device. Do you really expect companies to just send products worth hundreds of dollars with no insurance against theft/fraud?
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A bent phone is usually a manufacture defective one, and is covered under their return policy. Accidental/water damage is not manufacture defective, so it won't be covered. Simple as that.
It's called an RMA and almost all retailers do that for returned merchandise. Look at the situation from their POV: what would keep you from not sending the defective phone back once they sent you the replacement. Again, simple as that.
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It is simple. So simple I made sure to add it. Being told about a charge is something to know about. It wasn't mentioned. I mentioned it.
As for your question about what would keep someone from not sending a device back. I said nothing about it being right or wrong. You mention it like I did. I don't think it's wrong. Inconvenience for sure, especially if you didn't do anything wrong and it's not your fault. But I know some people would not return the defective device. Integrity for some would make them return it. As for others, some would not and that's almost certainly the reason multiple companies do that exact thing (charge up front).
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The bent phones aren't seen as accidental damage, there are many reports of these being replaced by Google with no questions asked. Of course you need to "front the money" as you put it. This is normal procedure when an advanced replacement is being provided to a consumer. Anyway, you're not actually being charged, they're not taking any money, all that's happening is you're authorising them to take the money in the case that you don't return the defective device. Do you really expect companies to just send products worth hundreds of dollars with no insurance against theft/fraud?
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Again, telling those about the charge doesn't mean I think it's wrong. It wasn't mentioned. And being told about paying for the device again, even as a hold that will be returned is something that should be mentioned.

Amazon will refund Note7 accessories even if outside return window

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Amazon is apparently offering customers who bought Note7 accessories a full refund even if they’re outside the normal 30-day return window.
Someone was asking about this. FYI
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I just got my UAG CASE refunded from amazon. In was past my 30 day return period.
Just says mine is outside the return window not eligible for return
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Just says mine is outside the return window not eligible for return
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You have to call them
Ah thanks I will be giving them a call
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Amazon may, but I'm unsure if third party sellers on Amazon will do it too, which is where all my cases come from. Upon filling in the form, it says it needs to get approval from the seller. I could call Amazon, but they wont be able to dictate what third party sellers have to do when it's outside the window.
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Amazon may, but I'm unsure if third party sellers on Amazon will do it too, which is where all my cases come from. Upon filling in the form, it says it needs to get approval from the seller. I could call Amazon, but they wont be able to dictate what third party sellers have to do when it's outside the window.
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Third parties won't. I just tried and all sellers are refusing.
Also, in related information, if you bought any Spigen accessories directly through their site, they aren't taking them back either. I contacted them Wednesday and they refused. They gave a useless 20% off one item coupon though. Because, you know, I want to spend MORE money on all this mess.
I'm now contacting Samsung directly because at this point, I feel it's all their fault. I would never have bought accessories if I had known this would happen. Now, if I were returning the phone because I didn't like it or something like that (a voluntary return/exchange that was MY decision), then I'd take the hit. I mean, I can't even sell these cases now!
(I have 5 cases. I bought a few in order to swap them out or to have spares.)
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I'm now contacting Samsung directly because at this point, I feel it's all their fault. I would never have bought accessories if I had known this would happen. Now, if I were returning the phone because I didn't like it or something like that (a voluntary return/exchange that was MY decision), then I'd take the hit. I mean, I can't even sell these cases now!
(I have 5 cases. I bought a few in order to swap them out or to have spares.)
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Let us know how it goes. I have 7 cases (me and my wife together, but same situation, we like to swap them out) from various sellers and would like to have at least part of it back.
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Let us know how it goes. I have 7 cases (me and my wife together, but same situation, we like to swap them out) from various sellers and would like to have at least part of it back.
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Yeah, sure. I'll keep you all updated.
Not to be negative, but I feel like it's a long shot though.
No reply as of yet. Maybe by Monday.
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spexwood said:
Yeah, sure. I'll keep you all updated.
Not to be negative, but I feel like it's a long shot though.
No reply as of yet. Maybe by Monday.
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OK, well, I got an update. Samsung is refusing responsibility for 3rd party accessories, so I am now about $200 in the hole.
All I can say is that I REALLY hope a class action lawsuit comes out, because I'll be jumping on it like crazy in order to try and recover at least SOME of my loss. I was also considering getting a Note8 (or whatever it'll be called), but now, it has to not only be a good phone, but will need to brush my teeth, brush my hair, and wipe my butt in order to make me consider it. It's a shame because I loved the Note7, but they shouldn't be screwing their customers over like this, ESPECIALLY since it's their fault.
I'm going to try one last time with the phone number provided in the email, but from what it sounds like, this will do nothing.
Message from Samsung:
Thank you for taking the time to contact us at Samsung Technical Support. We always appreciate hearing from our customers.
After reviewing your e-mail, I understand that you have purchased most of the accessories related to Note 7 and I see that you want the refund for them, I will help you with the required information.
I regret your inconvenience regarding this, the most disheartening is one of our loyal customer going through this type of ordeal experience.
I see that you have purchased the accessories from the third party seller, we don't know the information about them, I would like to inform you that you will get the refund when you purchase from the Samsung or with the respective carrier.
For the inconvenience with the exchange that you are all going through, we are offering all the customer's with incentives.
As a sign of our appreciation for your patience and loyalty, we are offering up to a $100 bill credit from select carrier or retail outlets if you exchange your Galaxy Note7 for another Samsung smartphone, less any incentive credits already received.
If you already exchanged your Galaxy Note7 device for another Samsung smart phone, you will receive up to a $75 bill credit from select carrier or retail outlets in addition to the $25 you previously received.
If you choose to obtain a refund, you will receive up to a $25 bill credit from select carrier or retail outlets as a token of our appreciation and acknowledgement of your inconvenience, less any incentive credits already received.
I will help you with the link where you can refer the updated information of the Note 7.
http://www.samsung.com/us/note7recall/
I would like to inform you that your email has reached Samsung technical support department were we deal in troubleshooting with mobile devices and tablets. However, we do have a dedicated support team who will help you in this regard.
I understand how troublesome it could be, Please contact appropriate team with the contact number(1-844-365-6197 ). They will help you with the options possible.
I hope the above information is helpful. Please write back to us if you have any quires. We will be happy to help you.
Should you desire additional assistance, we invite you to access the web-link http://www.samsung.com/us/support/contact to speak to a Chat Specialist. Our technicians are more than happy to assist you further. Chat Support is available 24X7.
For additional support and updates regarding your product, please follow us at @SamsungSupport on Twitter or like our page at https://www.facebook.com/samsungsupport.
Thank you for choosing Samsung products.
Sincerely,
Sravanthi.K
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Another Update:
I called the number given in the email and ended up coming out of the call with even more frustration, but also some potentially good news, though we should all take it with a grain of salt.
First, I called the number and the girl on the other line said I need to power down my Note7. I told her that I can't because it's my ONLY phone (I don't even have a landline), and I have to wait until I can buy a replacement. She just said, "I understand, but because your safety is our concern... [blah blah blah]... you need to power down your phone."
So I repeated that this was my only phone and that I don't have a spare. Again, she repeated the "safety is our concern" line. So I added, "Ma'am, if I power down my phone, then that would mean that I will be without a phone completely until I can get a replacement. That means that if I have to call 911 in the case that I have an emergency, then I won't be able to do so, and I could potentially DIE."
This time she hesitated... then repeated the same line again. It sounded like she was reading a script too (which she most likely was, unfortunately).
Finally, I just said, "Well, I'm not powering down my phone until I can buy the LG V20."
She stopped LOL
So then she transferred me to another phone number, but was kind enough to give me the number in case I got disconnected. So she transferred me and I waited. And waited. And waited. After 1 hour and 10 minutes on hold, I just hung up and tried calling again. All I got was a message saying that the phone was not available and to try again later.
At this point, I'm obviously frustrated, so I call the first number again and this is where the good news with a grain of salt comes in. The lady said that there will be an addition to the Note7 recall, which will state what to do about accessories (though she didn't confirm whether it was for accessories bought through third parties). She could not give me a 'when' this would happen though. I tried pressing more details from her by trying to get a time frame for this addition (ex: within the next 1-2 months), but she would not give me anything, meaning that she really didn't know, or that she wasn't supposed to say.
So, at this point, I'm just going to wait until either a class-action lawsuit occurs, or this addition to the Note7 recall policy becomes live. I'm obviously not happy at the moment because as of right now, I'm still at a loss until something else happens, which is still only a possibility rather than a certainty.
EDIT: Oh, and II only say to take that info with a grain of salt only because it isn't 100% confirmed at the moment. I would definitely expect Samsung to do that addition to the recall because that will help them avoid a class-action lawsuit. It's just that if they do do something, they need to do something reasonable... not something like offer only 20% of each accessory's cost. I mean, at the moment, this $25 credit whether you keep using a Samsung device or go to another brand is bull. That's lunch money and doesn't cover all the time wasted on this mess (IMO).
Well seems I was partially lucky with Amazon's third party sellers, but I am unsure if that is because the items they allow me to trade are 1, still within the normal return window, 2, are OEM covers, or 3, they just have great customer service. The other ones (Spigen and VRS Design) were out of the window so I just let them be.. They may have allowed me to return them, but chances are slim.. I know I wouldn't if I was a seller.
i was able to return all of the items i bought for note 7. I had to do a chat and she gave me the link for my return label. 2 case and 1 usb c cable.
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i was able to return all of the items i bought for note 7. I had to do a chat and she gave me the link for my return label. 2 case and 1 usb c cable.
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The usb c cable would have been good to keep as in all phones will probably have it in the future. Thats the only thing im keeping
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