Which model is preferable to take overseas? - Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)

I noticed the Verizon S3 has a mini-SIM port.. but why? I thought Verizon phones don't have SIM cards at all?
Also, is it true that the AT&T model doesn't have a SIM card port at all? How is it activated then?
Also, the T-mobile model apparently has calling-over-WiFi (uma). Does that only work on t-mobile's network or will it work overseas too?

The micro sim port is for Verizon lte. Tmobiles is also a micro sim, and I think you still have to be connected to Tmobiles network to use wifi calling. Don't know about att.
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PhrostB said:
I noticed the Verizon S3 has a mini-SIM port.. but why? I thought Verizon phones don't have SIM cards at all?
Also, is it true that the AT&T model doesn't have a SIM card port at all? How is it activated then?
Also, the T-mobile model apparently has calling-over-WiFi (uma). Does that only work on t-mobile's network or will it work overseas too?
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AT&T version does have a mini sim slot right beside the SD Card. It's a spring loaded slot.

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AT&T version does have a mini sim slot right beside the SD Card. It's a spring loaded slot.
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So which model is this?
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I believe that Verizon has stated that they will enable global roaming on the Galaxy S3 in the future, but I'm not sure on that.

PhrostB said:
So which model is this?
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The one on the left is probably SPRINT, as they've been hard-embedding the LTE SIM card into the device to bastardize it (they're doing it with all phones).
The right is probably AT&T/TMO.
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I believe that Verizon has stated that they will enable global roaming on the Galaxy S3 in the future, but I'm not sure on that.
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Well, the internal chipset has GSM support. You wouldn't be able to change the SIM card, I believe. You'd be stuck on VZW's expensive international roaming plans.
But for global roaming it'd only support 800 Mhz and 1900 Mhz bands, unless Verizon had them add the extra hardware.

The AT&T version uses the same frequencies as the international version.
Side by side comparison i747 and i9300

I travel quite a bit outside of the US for work, and for international travel, your best bet is the ATT version since GSM will give you the most options outside of the North America. As mentioned, Verizon may be offering some limited compatibility, but you will be stuck to their plan, whereas the ATT version (esp if unlocked) will allow you to swap chips in other countries as desired.
I say ATT because band-wise it has the most international compatible ones, and the 2100 band will help in regions like Japan and Korea that don't use standard GSM.
TMo is probably the second choice, but because they use bands like 1700 that no one else really uses, you're still better off with ATT.
The CDMA versions would be the last ones (Verizon and Sprint) since their roaming will be limited.
This is assuming you are picking from the US versions - for Canadian models, just find the carrier that matches ATT (I believe Rogers is the closest).

I'm starting to think I should just get the international version.

PhrostB said:
I'm starting to think I should just get the international version.
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Is your home base in the US? Are you on an LTE network? Not sure if international version works with LTE. One reason why we have a different processor in our US phones because of LTE. A South Korean model (international version) will have LTE support but I don't know if its available.
GSM is your best bet if you live in the US. ATT or TMo. Verizon's international roaming is quite expensive.

gingson said:
Is your home base in the US? Are you on an LTE network? Not sure if international version works with LTE. One reason why we have a different processor in our US phones because of LTE. A South Korean model (international version) will have LTE support but I don't know if its available.
GSM is your best bet if you live in the US. ATT or TMo. Verizon's international roaming is quite expensive.
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I'm usually in Israel.. specifically in an army base in the desert.

PhrostB said:
I'm usually in Israel.. specifically in an army base in the desert.
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I would go with the at&t one if you were to choose a us version. Personally if I had to pick I would just go with the international version if that where the case. I wanna see what the quadcore can do in a phone and personally I'm fine running hspa. I currently have no LTE were I'm at anyway. I have to drive like an hour to Baton Rouge for a taste lol.

By the way.... Tmobile wifi calling works anywhere there is wifi..
If you are overseas and you make a phone call back to the usa using wifi calling... Its free.. Its considered a usa to usa call....
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clninja said:
By the way.... Tmobile wifi calling works anywhere there is wifi..
If you are overseas and you make a phone call back to the usa using wifi calling... Its free.. Its considered a usa to usa call....
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Was just about to say this. I think you can also add an international long distance plan for a small fee (that way you can also call israeli numbers), which would make the phone work well anywhere you have wifi, then just get a prepaid sim to use while on the go. Just an idea tho.

I was only considering buying the phone here in the states and using it back home in israel with my regular carrier (Cellcom). Will the t-mobile S3 support calling-over-wifi even if I'm not on t-mobile's network?

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Samsung Galaxy Note LTE (Korean Version) support T-Mobile USA HSPA+?

Anyone knows it this thing supports TMobile 1700/2100 AWS Band? I am eagerly waiting for this device that will support TMobile USA AWS band/Wind Mobile Canada or Penta Band.
Or at least 3g?
As it was just announced, your going to have to wait a bit for details. As fare as well know its the same Note as ever, just with LTE compatibility on Korea.(which would NOT work on T-Mobile)
I read 1.5Hz 32gb and all bands.
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I can't find any info on bands and i'm looking hard
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GSM Arena says CDMA: http://www.gsmarena.com/ltepacking_samsung_galaxy_note_goes_live_in_korea-news-3446.php
This doesn't sound right because their still saying it has a Exynos chipset in it and all the other Korean articles say 1.5 snapdragon so right now we need more solid info on specs and performance
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Yeah their saying the only change was the 4g lte. But on samsung.Korea site it says 1.5hz and not 1.4hz
Im lost
STOP BEING LOST!
jkjk...
but seriously, want the damn Galaxy Note on TMobile...
Hey, so there's been a lot of discussion on whether or not the new S.Korean version of the SGN will support the 1700mHz band.
It has been reported that it is CDMA.
If you go to wikipedia here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_frequencies
and go down 3/4 of the page to where it says "Other Regions" you'll see the following:
"CDMA S. Korea 1750–1780 1840–1870"
That would seem to say that it will indeed support T-Mobile...
thoughts?
-GT
gerizafa said:
Hey, so there's been a lot of discussion on whether or not the new S.Korean version of the SGN will support the 1700mHz band.
It has been reported that it is CDMA.
If you go to wikipedia here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_frequencies
and go down 3/4 of the page to where it says "Other Regions" you'll see the following:
"CDMA S. Korea 1750–1780 1840–1870"
That would seem to say that it will indeed support T-Mobile...
thoughts?
-GT
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I don't understand. T-Mobile uses GSM. CDMA is a different technology than GSM. Why would you expect a CDMA phone to be usable on a GSM network?
Hey thanks! Whew, got a bit excited seeing the 1700 band in there, but if their 1700 band is only for CDMA, then you are quite right... no tmobile... but then verizon people could start getting excited...
-GT
Sigh, if this phone had T-Mobile bands, I would pay with cold hard cash right now. =(
Sucks that we can't even get the Exynos version of this, at least not for another year until Samsung makes a new phone with a new SoC that sports T-Mobile's bands.
Ditch T-Mobile and get straight talk. T-Mobile sucks anyway.
I just gotta ask.... why do people say T-mobile sucks?
I don't understand as I've only ever had great reception with them and great speeds. Plus my phone bill is smaller than if I went to AT&T, and I get more data and minutes. I have many times over the years been with friends or family who can't get reception on AT&T or Verizon and there I am rockin it on T-Mobile. In fact, some of my friends who use AT&T have started saying "More dropped calls in More places" about their AT&T service.
I mean if someone said AT&T sucks, I'd totally agree. They charge an arm and a let, they limit your data, and give you crap for minutes, and from what I see my friends experience, their coverage sucks in comparison to T-Mobile.
But that's just been my friends and family and my experience.
GT
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Oh yeah, and if you're checking out the threads here, you'll see loads of people having issues with AT&T now shutting down their data on their SGN. So... AT&T doesn't really seem like a ride I want to buy a ticket for.
Who said anything about AT&T? I said straight talk. They use AT&T towers but have much better pricing. T-Mobile sucks because their phone selection is lacking and now because of their frequencies, you can't even get the Note.
5150Joker said:
Who said anything about AT&T? I said straight talk. They use AT&T towers but have much better pricing. T-Mobile sucks because their phone selection is lacking and now because of their frequencies, you can't even get the Note.
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How does the pricing look like on Straight Talk?
Been out of contract for close to a year now, just rocking an old HD2 that still works. Been so itchy with all these giga-sized screen phones.
Any new information available?
Hey guys I was it a store in Italy today they carry the note for purchase without a contract on this company called TIM.
I checked the specs on the box it has the correct T-Mobile bands.
699.99 euro
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I want a Korean S3 with 2GB RAM and quadcore!!

Indulge me.
The Korean SGS3 comes with 2GB RAM and the quadcore Exynos 4412 chip:
http://phandroid.com/2012/06/08/sk-telecoms-galaxy-s-iii-merges-quad-core-cpu-and-2gb-ram/
South Korea uses 2100Mhz HSPA band - as does the UK where I live.
http://www.worldtimezone.com/gsm.html
What's stopping me from (somehow) buying a Korean one and importing it for use here in the UK?
Also, any ideas how I would even go about buying something from Korea??
setspeed said:
Indulge me.
The Korean SGS3 comes with 2GB RAM and the quadcore Exynos 4412 chip:
http://phandroid.com/2012/06/08/sk-telecoms-galaxy-s-iii-merges-quad-core-cpu-and-2gb-ram/
South Korea uses 2100Mhz HSPA band - as does the UK where I live.
http://www.worldtimezone.com/gsm.html
What's stopping me from (somehow) buying a Korean one and importing it for use here in the UK?
Also, any ideas how I would even go about buying something from Korea??
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Willing to bet, the Korean version won't use a Micro-Sim that GSM carriers use, as they're network SK Telecom if i recall does not require the use of sim cards. Also chances are the Korean version will be locked to region specific carriers there.
Don't go for it. Their will be a lot of issues with it. Also very bad developer support, worse than American version.
There may be other hardware compatibility issues with your network.
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Can't you just buy off-contract sim-free handsets, like you could here in the UK? Not attached/locked to a network?
setspeed said:
Can't you just buy off-contract sim-free handsets, like you could here in the UK? Not attached/locked to a network?
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His point is quad core and two gb ram. I understand his itch. Only that phone can scratch it.
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ceo.mtcl said:
His point is quad core and two gb ram. I understand his itch. Only that phone can scratch it.
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For now lol
doeboy711 said:
For now lol
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The next Nexus better have a quad with 2gb of ram!!!
djkinetic said:
Willing to bet, the Korean version won't use a Micro-Sim that GSM carriers use, as they're network SK Telecom if i recall does not require the use of sim cards. Also chances are the Korean version will be locked to region specific carriers there.
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Quite a lot of the new smartphones in Korea come with usim cards..
Don't ask me the finer details.
There are 3 major carriers in SK, two of them operate WCDMA networks.
I would not go for this phone. Like somebody else said, bad developer support.
ceo.mtcl said:
Don't go for it. Their will be a lot of issues with it. Also very bad developer support, worse than American version.
There may be other hardware compatibility issues with your network.
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Are saying that American version is going to have bad development support, when it's most likely going to be better.
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I got an international one today and it's on at&t in the states. It's not running at hspa+ speeds though
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zion4887 said:
I got an international one today and it's on at&t in the states. It's not running at hspa+ speeds though
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check to make sure your APN is set to phone
zion4887 said:
I got an international one today and it's on at&t in the states. It's not running at hspa+ speeds though
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You must not be having god connection then.
Here are my hspa speeds
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You must not be having god connection then.
Here are my hspa speeds
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Why are you using an app to display battery life. You know the S3 has that built into stock now right?
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ok so i want the international version, my carrier (h2o wireless) runs on att but they dont have 4g only 3g... my question is , would it work on my carrier?
Haha!
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Why are you using an app to display battery life. You know the S3 has that built into stock now right?
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You mean that ugly stock battery percentage that appears next to the battery icon and takes up additional space? If you have noticed, I do not have any app but actually a circles mod that can display battery percentage within the battery icon.
For the dev support I disagree, it seems they will get the same hardware as the int version only more ram and LTE support so int roms shouln'd be hard to port, am I wrong?
djkinetic said:
Willing to bet, the Korean version won't use a Micro-Sim that GSM carriers use, as they're network SK Telecom if i recall does not require the use of sim cards. Also chances are the Korean version will be locked to region specific carriers there.
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Speaking form experience the SIM card issue is no longer a problem, Korean phones now use SIM cards, all carriers here ( SK, KT, LG all use SIM cards)
All Android phones here as of today (SGS3 is still unknown) are sold carrier unlocked, I've used my Korean issue GalaxyS (m110s) in various countries with no issue (India/China/UK)
Problem with the Korean version is that' you'll lose FM functionality and gain a useless DMB (TV) chip instead, also it's dimensions are ever slightly larger, so getting nice cases might be slightly harder, or you'll have to order from Korea, not impossible though.
Phones can be bought off the shelf here, they're just more expensive than in Europe/US
I'm pretty sure the american version dev support will be just as good as the international.

Would this phone work on T-Mobile if sprint gave me an unlock code?

Would i be able to use this phone on T-Mobile here in the U.S? I've serached and haven't seen an answer to this question for u.s. networks. All I see is people asking if it'd work internationally.
I ask because this phone does have a sim card slot and in network settings there is an option for gsm/umts networks?
If so I would assume I'd need to flash tmobiles gs4 modem in order to use their service?
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Short answer....no.
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Short answer....no.
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Would be nice if you elaborated
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nemesis93 said:
Would be nice if you elaborated
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Well, it is that simple, it wont work on T-Mobile or ATT. There is no way to have it unlocked for US domestic GSM carriers (other than some risky propositions of flashing it with TMO ROM which I would not recommend) .
No offense intended towards the op but I've seen so many posts of people thinking that just because it has a sim slot it can work on us gsm. The sim card is unique in that it is meant for information needed to run on sprint CDMA/LTE networks. The sim slot doesn't function like a gsm sim socket. If you want to use a phone on a gsm us network, then buy a bloody gsm phone!
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Would i be able to use this phone on T-Mobile here in the U.S? I've serached and haven't seen an answer to this question for u.s. networks. All I see is people asking if it'd work internationally.
I ask because this phone does have a sim card slot and in network settings there is an option for gsm/umts networks?
If so I would assume I'd need to flash tmobiles gs4 modem in order to use their service?
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No, it will not work on "domestic" GSM networks (T-Mobile/AT&T etc), Sprint has that disabled/locked out by default. They will unlock it for you (if you meet the necessary requirements) for use on overseas GSM networks or you can by default, roam on overseas networks and pay expensive international roaming rates.
Yes, the Sprint S4 is a dual mode CDMA/GSM handset and as such has a SIM slot. Just because it has a SIM slot doesn't mean it'll just accept any GSM SIM and voila it works. First, the SIM slot is there because it's an LTE device and they all require SIM cards for LTE authentication on the Sprint network.
It would have been easy (and more consumer friendly) for Sprint to have their S4 have a completely unlocked SIM slot but their incentive is to have you pay expensive international roaming rates when using it on GSM networks, hence they lock out domestic GSM networks.
What's the point of assuming you'd need to flash a T-Mobile modem (and potentially brick your phone)? If your intent is to be on T-Mobile, why not sell the Sprint S4 and get a T-Mobile S4? Why do people suffer themselves through all these palaver?
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No, it will not work on "domestic" GSM networks (T-Mobile/AT&T etc), Sprint has that disabled/locked out by default. They will unlock it for you (if you meet the necessary requirements) for use on overseas GSM networks or you can by default, roam on overseas networks and pay expensive international roaming rates.
Yes, the Sprint S4 is a dual mode CDMA/GSM handset and as such has a SIM slot. Just because it has a SIM slot doesn't mean it'll just accept any GSM SIM and voila it works. First, the SIM slot is there because it's an LTE device and they all require SIM cards for LTE authentication on the Sprint network.
It would have been easy (and more consumer friendly) for Sprint to have their S4 have a completely unlocked SIM slot but their incentive is to have you pay expensive international roaming rates when using it on GSM networks, hence they lock out domestic GSM networks.
What's the point of assuming you'd need to flash a T-Mobile modem (and potentially brick your phone)? If your intent is to be on T-Mobile, why not sell the Sprint S4 and get a T-Mobile S4? Why do people suffer themselves through all these palaver?
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It's a question because I obviously don't know so I ask for others input. I'm simply saying because the phone has a sim card slot AND it appears to be compatible with gsm networks so I ask if it would work in the US not internationally.
It's not always as simple as sell this phone and get myself a tmobile s4 because there is probability I won't be able to sell it.
I don't understand the people on this forum. Either answer the question or leave it alone and let the thread go down into the next page. Simple as that.
Thank you LordLugard for explaining despite that last part of your post. Otherwise I would've "thanked" you.
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nemesis93 said:
It's a question because I obviously don't know so I ask for others input. I'm simply saying because the phone has a sim card slot AND it appears to be compatible with gsm networks so I ask if it would work in the US not internationally.
It's not always as simple as sell this phone and get me a tmobile s4 because there is a probability I won't be able to sell it.
I don't understand the people on this forum. Either answer the question or leave it alone and let the thread go down into the next page. Simple as that.
Thank you LordLugard for explaining despite that last part of your post. Otherwise I would've "thanked" you.
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Whether you thank me or not is irrelevant. You had a question and I tried my best to answer/help as understandably as possible. This is what the forum is about.
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I'm working on this fixing this.. for science! No promises.
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Saw your post on twitter..!!! As usual, the resident Morpheus!!!
nemesis93 said:
It's a question because I obviously don't know so I ask for others input. I'm simply saying because the phone has a sim card slot AND it appears to be compatible with gsm networks so I ask if it would work in the US not internationally.
It's not always as simple as sell this phone and get myself a tmobile s4 because there is probability I won't be able to sell it.
I don't understand the people on this forum. Either answer the question or leave it alone and let the thread go down into the next page. Simple as that.
Thank you LordLugard for explaining despite that last part of your post. Otherwise I would've "thanked" you.
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Not be able to sell one of the top phones right now? That's impossible. Craigslist it and you'll sell it in no time.
Stealyourface said:
Not be able to sell one of the top phones right now? That's impossible. Craigslist it and you'll sell it in no time.
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Even Swappa, although people that use Swappa actually know about phones and what the current prices are.
Nice
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I'm working on this fixing this.. for science! No promises.
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Sprint is cdma and is the only one that uses it....answer is NO.
According to the specs on the phone, the hardware is capable of running on Att or T-mobile network without 4g. It will just take time for someone to figure out how to unlock the phone's radio. It will be similar to rooting or unlocking the phone, pure software limitation, but it will take longer since there aren't that many developers looking in to it vs say rooting.
what makes it annoying right now is the inability to flash the modem partition through dd commands. doesn't stick after a reboot.
but yes.. this phone supports more GSM bands than the HTC One. ATT/TMO AWS bands and obviously LTE bands are not available. Might be able to hack in AWS support.. but no way on LTE.
LTE: Band 25;
CDMA 1x/EVDO Rev.A: 800/850/1900MHz;
HSPA+/UMTS: 850/900/1900/2100MHz;
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900MHz
autoprime said:
what makes it annoying right now is the inability to flash the modem partition through dd commands. doesn't stick after a reboot.
but yes.. this phone supports more GSM bands than the HTC One. ATT/TMO AWS bands and obviously LTE bands are not available. Might be able to hack in AWS support.. but no way on LTE.
LTE: Band 25;
CDMA 1x/EVDO Rev.A: 800/850/1900MHz;
HSPA+/UMTS: 850/900/1900/2100MHz;
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900MHz
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If you find out how to unlock it, i will find you, and I will kiss you, and i'm a guy >_>
edit: A very very straight guy.
Brandonxcore said:
If you find out how to unlock it, i will find you, and I will kiss you, and i'm a guy >_>
edit: A very very straight guy.
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Nothing weird about guys kissing. I've kissed another guy(s) before....hmmmm...my dad and brother...haha..
Note that even if you were able to get the device to work on T-Mobile, while you would get 2G just about everywhere, you will only get 3G in areas that have been "re-farmed" and you will not get get LTE at all since the device densest support the AWS band.
it will work
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2530610
Tested works great no lte but i do have h+

Unlocked HTC 10 on Verizon?

According to the HTC website the HTC 10 has all the bands necessary for Verizon including CDMA. Does anyone know if it will work on Verizon?
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I'm wondering the same thing.
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According to the HTC website the HTC 10 has all the bands necessary for Verizon including CDMA. Does anyone know if it will work on Verizon?
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I suspect it will indeed work on VZW, all 3 models have the same modelid (ATT, TMO, VZW)...
Jeff Gordon pretty much confirmed it...https://twitter.com/urbanstrata/status/719949958166786048?s=15
I see it as the same situation as the 6P. Verizon didnt "officially certify" it for their network, but since it had the correct bands it worked with an already activated sim card.
I preordered an unlocked HTC 10 and plan on popping in my 6p VZW sim card.
Now does it matter that HTC site lists the 850 frequency (which verizon uses for their 3g) under 2G/2.5G - GSM/GPRS/EDGE?
I am wondering the same my friend..it will be a must buy it so and I can use it on any carrier at anytime! It's probably too good to be true though all of ever heard is how Verizon is very strict on what phones they will let on their network ? If I have to get the Verizon version, then I will have to wait on bootloader unlock before purchase Crossing fingers
MoNsTeReNeRgY22, Post back once you get the phone and pop in your sim.... The sim from my iPhone 6Plus should work to I would guess?
Verizon is less strict than you think. They're picky about the phones they certify and sell, but if a phone has the right radios, you can usually get it to work on V by just inserting a pre-activated SIM.
I've heard a rumor that Verizon will be getting an exclusive launch ahead of the US competition with this phone. It'd be nice if the unlocked model is the same. Perhaps they'll put some software locking that we can easily circumnavigate? Being able to travel with my M8 and pop in a local GSM SIM has been a huge benefit.
So it's not looking good. Android Police in their quick write up tried a already activated VZW sim and it was a no go.
http://imgur.com/EHIZh9f
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So it's not looking good. Android Police in their quick write up tried a already activated VZW sim and it was a no go.
http://imgur.com/EHIZh9f
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Not good.
Just got a twitter response from Mo Versi who works at HTC, and I quote "NO, You will have to purchase directly from Verizon or Sprint. Thanks" Not sure if this is the be all end all, but it doesn't help!? Perhaps Verizon is telling them to say this so we buy from carrier?? Or maybe we are just screwed
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Just got a twitter response from Mo Versi who works at HTC, and I quote "NO, You will have to purchase directly from Verizon or Sprint. Thanks" Not sure if this is the be all end all, but it doesn't help!? Perhaps Verizon is telling them to say this so we buy from carrier?? Or maybe we are just screwed
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Verizon did just implement that new upgrade fee if you buy from them. Sneaky, sneaky.
MoNsTeReNeRgY22 said:
So it's not looking good. Android Police in their quick write up tried a already activated VZW sim and it was a no go.
http://imgur.com/EHIZh9f
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I've experienced this on cracking the Chinanet LTE of Verizon M9. The LTE signal just show up and disappeared in a moment.
But at last I solved it by adding MCC in EFS explore.
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Just got a twitter response from Mo Versi who works at HTC, and I quote "NO, You will have to purchase directly from Verizon or Sprint. Thanks" Not sure if this is the be all end all, but it doesn't help!? Perhaps Verizon is telling them to say this so we buy from carrier?? Or maybe we are just screwed
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Since they are releasing an actual Verizon variant, I dont see you getting any other answer out of him than that.
jchq said:
I've experienced this on cracking the Chinanet LTE of Verizon M9. The LTE signal just show up and disappeared in a moment.
But at last I solved it by adding MCC in EFS explore.
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Can you elaborate on what you mean by adding MCC in EFS explore?
MoNsTeReNeRgY22 said:
Since they are releasing an actual Verizon variant, I dont see you getting any other answer out of him than that.
Can you elaborate on what you mean by adding MCC in EFS explore?
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Yeah I suspect so, If it does indeed work on Verizon, Im sure Verizon dosent want them advertising it. My only fear is when I receive it, it does work, but if I am out of ranfe for LTE and it has to drop down to 3G, will it work.. I guess we shall see!? I did see that HTC has a 14 day return policy. If I cant get it to work in the 14 days, then I will just wait for a bootloader unlock for the Verizon model. Anyone thats up to date and knows the 3G and LTE bads real well? Does this unlocked edition have all the necessary bands for both 3G and LTE, on VZW? I know a bit, but dont know them all.
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Yeah I suspect so, If it does indeed work on Verizon, Im sure Verizon dosent want them advertising it. My only fear is when I receive it, it does work, but if I am out of ranfe for LTE and it has to drop down to 3G, will it work.. I guess we shall see!? I did see that HTC has a 14 day return policy. If I cant get it to work in the 14 days, then I will just wait for a bootloader unlock for the Verizon model. Anyone thats up to date and knows the 3G and LTE bads real well? Does this unlocked edition have all the necessary bands for both 3G and LTE, on VZW? I know a bit, but dont know them all.
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Yup agreed and I think its actually a 30 day return policy. See HTC.com America store by Digital River refund policy
And according to Wireless Carrier Cheat Sheet, the unlocked version supports Verizon CDMA ( CDMA: 800/1900 with EVDO Rev A). I screenshotted the supported bands of the unlocked HTC 10, the VZW HTC M9 and and VZW LG G5. All support the same bands (CDMA included). I circled the same CDMA bands for reference (Ignore my crude paint skills).
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Yup agreed and I think its actually a 30 day return policy. See HTC.com America store by Digital River refund policy
And according to Wireless Carrier Cheat Sheet, the unlocked version supports Verizon CDMA ( CDMA: 800/1900 with EVDO Rev A). I screenshotted the supported bands of the unlocked HTC 10, the VZW HTC M9 and and VZW LG G5. All support the same bands (CDMA included). I circled the same CDMA bands for reference (Ignore my crude paint skills).
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A guy linked this to me: http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_10_goes_by_fcc_ahead_of_announcement-news-17569.php
It shows 2 separate models 2PS6200 and 2PS6500
Hopefully this is not one of them being GSM, and the other being the CDMA model?
awareunlikeu said:
A guy linked this to me: http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_10_goes_by_fcc_ahead_of_announcement-news-17569.php
It shows 2 separate models 2PS6200 and 2PS6500
Hopefully this is not one of them being GSM, and the other being the CDMA model?
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Even if there are separate models, does it matter since the tech specs for the unlocked variant list all the bands we need anyways?
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Even if there are separate models, does it matter since the tech specs for the unlocked variant list all the bands we need anyways?
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Yeah thats the way it certainly seems. Someone pointed out though that it could be showing the bands for both models as a whole.... It does not sound convincing, but something to think about.
awareunlikeu said:
A guy linked this to me: http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_10_goes_by_fcc_ahead_of_announcement-news-17569.php
It shows 2 separate models 2PS6200 and 2PS6500
Hopefully this is not one of them being GSM, and the other being the CDMA model?
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2PS620000 is for Europe, that article may be wrong about it hitting the FCC...doesn't make sense
2PS650000 is for US GSM (ATT & TMO) & VZW
Sprint will have a different modelid...
OMJ said:
2PS620000 is for Europe, that article may be wrong about it hitting the FCC...doesn't make sense
2PS650000 is for US GSM (ATT & TMO) & VZW
Sprint will have a different modelid...
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TASTY!
Read the whole thread and it looks like the unlocked HTC 10 might work on Verizon. Great news. I DON'T WANT VERIZON BRANDED DEVICE EVER AGAIN. I looked at the specs on the website and saw LTE bands 3,4,13 which is what Verizon uses AFAIK. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Whoever ordered the device please update us as soon as you get your device.
Thank you
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AT&T on Verizon

Its come time to switch carriers and my S7 edge is an AT&T variant and I want to get Verizon service. From what I can find it appears I can't just drop in a Verizon sim card and go (correct)? Is the only other alternative to install a Verizon stock rom ... or just sell to buy a Verizon version?
LTshineysides said:
Its come time to switch carriers and my S7 edge is an AT&T variant and I want to get Verizon service. From what I can find it appears I can't just drop in a Verizon sim card and go (correct)? Is the only other alternative to install a Verizon stock rom ... or just sell to buy a Verizon version?
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Verizon uses CDMA and AT&T uses GSM, so no you can't just pop-in a Verizon SIM card, it won't register to the network.
Attempting to flash a Verizon ROM would either fail or you'll end up with a bricked phone.
You'll have to sell your phone and buy the SM-G935V (Verizon S7 edge).
You'll have to sell your phone and buy the SM-G935V (Verizon S7 edge).
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Thanks, I thought this was the case, just thought I'd ask the more experienced folks here. Appreciate it!
All US Galaxy s7 are the same. So if you want to use Verizon on At&t phone, you'll need to flash Verizon firmware on At&t phone. Then you can use Verizon sim in it and you'll get all necessary bands for Verizon including cdma.
seemcity said:
All US Galaxy s7 are the same. So if you want to use Verizon on At&t phone, you'll need to flash Verizon firmware on At&t phone. Then you can use Verizon sim in it and you'll get all necessary bands for Verizon including cdma.
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Are you mad? Or just a troll?
First off, AT&T phones have locked bootloaders, so no, you can't flash sh*t. Same goes for Verizon.
Secondly, how will CDMA hardware magically appear if you flash the ROM for a different variant?
murtaza02 said:
Are you mad? Or just a troll?
First off, AT&T phones have locked bootloaders, so no, you can't flash sh*t. Same goes for Verizon.
Secondly, how will CDMA hardware magically appear if you flash the ROM for a different variant?
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know your shi*s first, before calling people troll !
yes, you can flash Verizon rom on ATT s7 edge. i have done it and so does many others.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-s7-edge/how-to/how-to-install-one-nougat-betas-t3499474
i currently on ATT gophone 40$ for 4gb data, i thinking of giving Verizon prepaid a try, 50$ for 7gb data.
netnerd said:
know your shi*s first, before calling people troll !
yes, you can flash Verizon rom on ATT s7 edge. i have done it and so does many others.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-s7-edge/how-to/how-to-install-one-nougat-betas-t3499474
i currently on ATT gophone 40$ for 4gb data, i thinking of giving Verizon prepaid a try, 50$ for 7gb data.
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This is the Nougat Beta, I was talking about a full final MM ROM, if that's possible then it's a different story, but as far as I know, it isn't.
Besides, Verizon ended support for the Nougat beta anyway.
when i do a network scan on ATT s7 edge, it picks up BOTH cdma Verizon, Sprint and GSM att and Tmobile.
i can only register on att network since i have a att gophone simcard, i'm sure if you pop a verzion simcard in, you can use it on verzion
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when i do a network scan on ATT s7 edge, it picks up BOTH cdma Verizon, Sprint and GSM att and Tmobile.
i can only register on att network since i have a att gophone simcard, i'm sure if you pop a verzion simcard in, you can use it on verzion
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Is your phone set to connect to LTE?
If so, when you do a network search, Verizon and Sprint will still show up since they use normal LTE bands just like AT&T and T-Mobile. I remember when I had a Galaxy S5, it didn't support LTE Band 2 (1900 MHz), but there is a network in Pakistan that uses LTE Band 2, and upon doing a network search, that network would still show up in the list.
I'll accept defeat when you do pop in a Verizon SIM card and try to use the 3G network and not LTE.
go to apple.com and check out the iphone, one iphone use on any network, samsung is doing the same. 1 phone uses on any network.
from apple.com,
Buy without a carrier.
SIM-free
Activate with any carrier later.
netnerd said:
go to apple.com and check out the iphone, one iphone use on any network, samsung is doing the same. 1 phone uses on any network.
from apple.com,
Buy without a carrier.
SIM-free
Activate with any carrier later.
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Yes I know, I have an iPhone. But Apple has been doing this for years, you can mix and match iPhone models, they all work on CDMA and GSM. I have a Verizon iPhone 6S Plus and it works fine for me here in Pakistan.
Samsung is not doing the same, if they were, why would they make G935A, G935T, G935V, G935P etc, why not just make one variant for US and one for the rest of the world?
The Snapdragon 820 in the AT&T S7 edge MIGHT support CDMA, but it probably doesn't, cause if it was as easy as flashing a ROM, then anyone could pick any variant off Ebay and use it on any network, but it's not that easy.
A reputable website shows that the SM-G935A, does NOT support any CDMA bands so it is beyond me if anyone has managed to register to Verizon with an AT&T or T-Mobile S7 edge.
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Yes I know, I have an iPhone. But Apple has been doing this for years, you can mix and match iPhone models, they all work on CDMA and GSM. I have a Verizon iPhone 6S Plus and it works fine for me here in Pakistan.
Samsung is not doing the same, if they were, why would they make G935A, G935T, G935V, G935P etc, why not just make one variant for US and one for the rest of the world?
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it just a freaking name. it' the same device, why 935a, 935t, 935v, 935p? cus they selling the phones to wireless carrier. it like a toyota, in usa, they calls it lexus, there is no lexus in japan, it still a toyota. haha
netnerd said:
it just a freaking name. it' the same device, why 935a, 935t, 935v, 935p? cus they selling the phones to wireless carrier. it like a toyota, in usa, they calls it lexus, there is no lexus in japan, it still a toyota. haha
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I find your reasoning to be extremely weak. Like, I just don't understand how you don't get it, I would expect someone living in the US to actually be able to understand this, but I'm shocked.
cus they selling the phones to wireless carrier.
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In that case, why not make 200+ variants for each carrier of the world? Wireless carriers outside the US also get phones, they don't have different variants for each carrier because all carriers here are GSM and they use very similar LTE bands, that is not the case in the US.
Don't you think there's more to it? Each phone has it's own different LTE band support and differently designed ROM. AT&T WiFi calling, VoLTE, same for T-Mobile and Verizon as well, you can't just have one unified device for all 4 major carriers, which is why they have a separate device for each one.
there is no lexus in japan
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Ummmm.... really? You sure about that? Like, entirely sure?
The link you posted about flashing VZW firmware on the AT&T S7 edge, that was only so that AT&T users could use Verizon's Nougat firmware since they got left out of the Beta test. Nothing like that with Marshmallow.
Doesn't that give you more of a reason to believe that the 4 variants are indeed different from each other in some way, and not exactly the same as you say?
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This is the Nougat Beta, I was talking about a full final MM ROM, if that's possible then it's a different story, but as far as I know, it isn't.
Besides, Verizon ended support for the Nougat beta anyway.
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you the one that dont get it !
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-s7-edge/how-to/how-to-install-one-nougat-betas-t3499474
this is not about nugget beta, you first have to flash verizon final MM rom first.
"First, download one of the carriers firmware
Verizon PH1"
that' Verizon final MM rom.
didnt you said earlier it will brick you phone flashing verzion rom? LMAO.
netnerd said:
you the one that dont get it !
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-s7-edge/how-to/how-to-install-one-nougat-betas-t3499474
this is not about nugget beta, you first have to flash verizon final MM rom first.
"First, download one of the carriers firmware
Verizon PH1"
that' Verizon final MM rom.
didnt you said earlier it will brick you phone flashing verzion rom? LMAO.
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Yes I did say it will brick, but don't take my word for it, I don't own either of the variants, so I can't say for sure.
Also, technically the tutorial doesn't require you to boot into the MM ROM, you need to flash it and then sideload a 7.0 update through recovery.
Anyway, you can keep laughing and tinkering with devices with locked bootloaders, I think the OP wanted a straight answer and he got it, could you imagine going through all this flashing and sideloading to achieve something that is as easy as selling his AT&T phone and getting a Verizon one?
you mean the OP got a bullsh*t answer from you?
isnt verizon nugget also a verizon rom? if that' the case, shouldnt that also brick the att s7 edge?
LTshineysides said:
Its come time to switch carriers and my S7 edge is an AT&T variant and I want to get Verizon service. From what I can find it appears I can't just drop in a Verizon sim card and go (correct)? Is the only other alternative to install a Verizon stock rom ... or just sell to buy a Verizon version?
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can you confirm whether you were successful in using att variant on verizon? I really want to know the outcome. thanks.
YoColdRain said:
can you confirm whether you were successful in using att variant on verizon? I really want to know the outcome. thanks.
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I just got an Verizon phone.
Att S7 edge on verizon
Hi All
I can confirm that ATT is working on Verizon with SM-G936U firmware.
dude flash the ufirmware and your all set to go https://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-s7-edge/how-to/odin-stock-nougat-firmware-t3570156

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