Nexus S 4G [D720] - data extraction question. - Nexus S General

So I ran over my phone. The digitizer is smashed, no way to use the phone via GUI. I took it apart at work today and noticed the SanDisk SDIN4C2 16GB NAND Flash memory module is removable. I will be receiving a replacment model tomorrow from the insurance company, and was wondering if it would be possible (and safe) to place my memory module into the new device. The only thing I would be worried about is some sort of weird pairing between the nand chip and the motherboard.
So my question to you is which method do you think would be better to extract my data?
1. Do a complete motherboard swap without activating the device to avoid ESN conflicts, put the device in USB mode, and pull the data?
2. Simply swap out the memory module and pull the data?
3. Attempt to pull the BGA chip off of the silicon, and access have a data center rescue it?
Option 3 is expensive, and I am pretty well rounded when it comes to hardware knowledge. I just want to see if anyone else has had similar experiences in getting the data from another device without physical SdCard storage.
Thanks,
Austin Stratton
Sprint/Nextel Tier III Technical Support Rep.

i would say option 2...try the easiest thing first!...so you work for sprint??.
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Yes I do. I have been in consumer Technical Support for about 2 years now. I work in the Corporate Call center in Texas. Also option 2 is the most attractive.

Was the phone already rooted with a custom recovery on it? If so, you should be able to get into recovery without using the screen at all. You can adb pull from cwm and/or enable usb drive mode to get at data.
If not already rooted, then I would tend to say <1> is your safer option. You won't have to do any soldering then at least. Of course it's possible that in your running it over more than the digitizer is actually screwed. So if that fails, pull the chip off and transfer it over to get the data off.

There is a module of the Android sdk, called screencast. It lets you use your PC as a duplicate screen. You can use your mouse to navigate your phone.
Google Android screencast
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@therealdjlink ....since your a sprint employee...how about some info on the ICS OTA!?!!....
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neo_x22000 said:
@therealdjlink ....since your a sprint employee...how about some info on the ICS OTA!?!!....
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He knows as much as we do... Plus there is so many more employees on xda besides him
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steviee7 said:
He knows as much as we do... Plus there is so many more employees on xda besides him
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Exactly. We don't really get all that much info very quickly. Engadget generally gets info before we do lol.
Also, I forgot to mention that the charging port is a no go.
However, I received my replacement from Asurion, cracked it open, switched the modules over and it work like a charm. Came back up exactly how I left it.
Thank for all the input everyone.

superm1 said:
Was the phone already rooted with a custom recovery on it? If so, you should be able to get into recovery without using the screen at all. You can adb pull from cwm and/or enable usb drive mode to get at data.
If not already rooted, then I would tend to say <1> is your safer option. You won't have to do any soldering then at least. Of course it's possible that in your running it over more than the digitizer is actually screwed. So if that fails, pull the chip off and transfer it over to get the data off.
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The sandisk chip swapped and clicked in like butter. Worked like a charm. All data is intact. Making a backup. RIGHT NOW.
I am also rooting it tonight, tired of google to re-push ICS. and on a blank phone I may as well go for it.

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The sandisk chip swapped and clicked in like butter. Worked like a charm. All data is intact. Making a backup. RIGHT NOW.
I am also rooting it tonight, tired of google to re-push ICS. and on a blank phone I may as well go for it.
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Hey, do you have to use a heat gun to remove the SanDisk chip from the motherboard?

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Download Mode/Upload Mode for Stalling/Lagging procedure

I was trying to MOD my captivate according to the procedures posted on the "Real fix for the "stalling/lagging" problem" thread. I downloaded the files needed and followed the procedures. However, I can't seem to get the phone to go to the download mode. By pressing vol down and power button does do anything on this phone. So i tried vol up and power and got UPLOAD MODE.
Have any of you tried this MOD? I post it on Vibrant thread but I am sure they will kick me off. There is a moderator who keeps posting to leave their thread and go to Captivate thread. Annoying. Maybe I am ahead of myself but this MOD is done on the Vibrant, I am not sure why it wouldn't work on the Captivate. This is the only MOD i want to have done until a new rom is available. I hear it increase the phone very drastically.
You can do it form adb: adb reboot download
That will get you into download mode.
WARNING: i have tried this mode and it totally messed up my Captivate. the gsensor was totally messed up and my recovery was no longer working.
factory resent did NOT help as it did not override the kernel changes.
I had to get the phone replaced.
Do at you own risk.
oooohh. no... not so good news. i was trying to get it done.
However, someone posted that it worked for them. I look again and find out.
I don't know about all that lagging nonsence but the second I got rid of the Samsung ui for LauncherPro all the lagging I had experienced was gone. Just loose the Samsung ui trust me you'll be glad you did.
Launcherpro IS sweet! I'll second that recomendation. HIGHLY customizable.
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_Opiate_ said:
I don't know about all that lagging nonsence but the second I got rid of the Samsung ui for LauncherPro all the lagging I had experienced was gone. Just loose the Samsung ui trust me you'll be glad you did.
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I agree.
I had the i9000 model and it was very laggy with or without Touchwiz.
The Captivate performs much better without Touchwiz, but still not as fast as other Android phones i had.
For those suffering with lag in Touchdown, simply set the DB to be on the sdcard and it will be much faster.
clubtech said:
I agree.
I had the i9000 model and it was very laggy with or without Touchwiz.
The Captivate performs much better without Touchwiz, but still not as fast as other Android phones i had.
For those suffering with lag in Touchdown, simply set the DB to be on the sdcard and it will be much faster.
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How did you MOD your phone to run from sd instead database? did you do mimocan mod to run on microsd or modoco mod?
Yeah I'm very interested in a mod for this... it's supposed to double boost your quadrant scores. From like 850 to 1750.
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sl8125 said:
How did you MOD your phone to run from sd instead database? did you do mimocan mod to run on microsd or modoco mod?
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The Touchdown email client has an option to move the database to run on the sdcard of the phone. Once moved to the sdcard Touchdown does not use the 2GB partition intended for app data and thus does not lag.
This feature is specific to the app itself. this is not a mod.
When i tried the mod posted on the i9000 (which essentially uses EXT3 parition on the external sdcard) my gsensor went completely crazy.
All my apps would show up in landscape even when the phone was in portrait.
Maybe something to do with the inclusion of a gyroscope on the captivate but not the i9000
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i tried this hack on my captivate but my laptop died in the midle of the flsah. my phone is stuck on a screen with an exclamation point between a phone and a computer. i cant get back to download mode because my computer does not recognize my phone
Chit me too. So i went returned my Captivate and got a new one. I accidentally pulled off the the usb cord. I am not sure if there is a fix to this. Or maybe i just don't know it yet. Sorry I can't be any help.
sl8125 said:
Chit me too. So i went returned my Captivate and got a new one. I accidentally pulled off the the usb cord. I am not sure if there is a fix to this. Or maybe i just don't know it yet. Sorry I can't be any help.
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what did you say when you went to return it? and they just replaced the device for you?
Well they ask me why I am returning and told him it just went blank. But told him I brick it and they just gave me a new one. The dude also let me keep the head phones and cable for the phone. So now I have one for home and work. He mentioned since android is open sourced this happens. I just nodded and said sure. Lol. Any ways gotta rooted now. Hope I don't mess this one up.lol
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FYI, a full write up how to fix lagging issues with external sd card.
Some guy in Modoco Android forum made an article on how to. Very detailed.
http://hemorrdroids.net/?p=637

Original sw on nexus s

I was wondering if you guys the following software on your new phone installed by default.
Qik
App brain
Skype
Quadrant
Speed test
Because when I got my phone from best buy it was already there and I am wondering if I got a used phone.
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None of those apps were preinstalled on the 2 NS's I bought on 12.16. Looks like someone played with/used it before you got it.
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I agree with Herr Bauhaus, app brain alone proves the phone's been played with before you got it.
Disappointing to hear that Best Buy is slipping returned phones into the "new" bin. If nothing else, they should have given you an "open box" discount. I'd take it back and demand that, or a new one. Turn it on before leaving the store and make sure nothing on the phone.
Thanks...this is disappointing. Shame on you best buy
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just some more confirmation, none of those apps should of been on the phone, you got a used device. Take it back and demand a new one, also as someone else said, open it in store.
if it still has the film over the screen telling you how to turn it on then thats a good sign but best to still turn it on and make sure no other apps are there.
Gingerbread auto-restores apps, are you certain this is not the case?
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AndroidZ28 said:
Gingerbread auto-restores apps, are you certain this is not the case?
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this is a possibility
If you had them on your old android phone that's why they are there. I suppose best buy installed you stored wifi passwords too
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well.. when you first turn on the phone, it does say Welcome to Nexus S... so thats a indicator if it was used or not
Slapinfunk said:
If you had them on your old android phone that's why they are there. I suppose best buy installed you stored wifi passwords too
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He never said his wifi passwords were restored, and if it were Google restoring apps via the backup feature from an old phone, wouldn't it restore ALL his old apps? I doubt those were the only apps he had installed on his old phone, if he even had one...I guess we should ask him (did you, OP?).
distortedloop said:
He never said his wifi passwords were restored, and if it were Google restoring apps via the backup feature from an old phone, wouldn't it restore ALL his old apps? I doubt those were the only apps he had installed on his old phone, if he even had one...I guess we should ask him (did you, OP?).
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It will restore as many as it can, depending on a couple variables. One variable being reception. If you are turning on your phone for the first time in a location with crappy signal, you will probably only get a partial, if any, app restore. I speak from experience here.
Luxferro said:
It will restore as many as it can, depending on a couple variables. One variable being reception. If you are turning on your phone for the first time in a location with crappy signal, you will probably only get a partial, if any, app restore. I speak from experience here.
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And the rest will never come in after the first attempt? Not a very reliable system, then.
I remember it working for me once with my Nexus 1 way back when, but it's never worked reliably when switching to any other phone.
Of course also on the app restore issue there will be a notification letting you know that X number of apps were restored (or if there was a partial restore as well, I believe).
Whatever happened to the OP?
knytphal said:
Of course also on the app restore issue there will be a notification letting you know that X number of apps were restored (or if there was a partial restore as well, I believe).
Whatever happened to the OP?
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There's no restore notification as far as I know.
My apps and settings didn't restore when I replaced my nexus s. I have backup my data and automatic restore enabled, and did on the previous phone too.
in the end it's quite clear the OP got a "used" phone from the "new" phone pile from BestBuy
it might have even been from some of us here in XDA that found some defect and sent it back (j/k)
if i were you, i'd got back to complain at BB, and get a new unit
as mentioned by the guys above, you should get a WELCOME screen, touch here to begin your setup wizard.... blah blah blah, and no weird software should be installed
you can also go into Phone> Settings> About, and check on the usage status
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There's no restore notification as far as I know.
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That's odd, I always get a restore notification letting me know how many apps were reinstalled after changing devices or wiping/restoring.
Thanks guys for the answers. Quick update. I went back to BB to replace the phone and got a new one. No more extra apps.
I also noticed that this time the screen was no longer a finger print magnet either. They must have cleaned the previous phone and stripped the anti-smudge coating.
Problem: This time around though, I have a problem with the back button being stuck sometimes -- checking on xda forums and google forums, it looks like this is a hardware issue. Guess this phone is going back too. Too bad.
Maybe i'll just wait and see what happens to the GT-i9023.....
No for me. I did not own an android phone before (well, except for the 2 weeks I owned a Vibrant last summer), but I never had Skype or Qik installed, so it is not possible that this is a restore.
This was a used phone from Best Buy.

[Q] Can I Use Any ROM If I only Want Wifi?

I have a Verizon Tab and I dont care about being able to use it on Verizon. I am only using the wifi to connect to the internet.
Am I able to use any ROM seeing that I dont care about the internet working?
any ideas? i am interested in this as well
jay2o01 said:
any ideas? i am interested in this as well
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No, I see about 90 people have viewed this but there has been no answer.
I am not a Dev and lack a lot of skills needed to make a custom ROM.
Bit if I understand things right. All the Tabs are the same exept for the radio that is used to access the internet on a network.
But other than that all hardware is the same, so other ROMs should work just not allow you to use the internet.
I for one am using just using Wifi so I would like to be able to use some of the other ROMs.
Wow
There is still no real answering this?Up
I use my Evo and wife only for internet on my tab. It would be great if I could use any Rom out there .
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I was asking a developer this yesterday, he said if you take a Gsm rom and run it it will not run properly. As you are aware the radio will not work which you said is not a concern but other things will become an issue like your device being seen as a Cd drive. The frame work is totally different. If you are cool with Heidmall and have the stock Verizon image files go ahead and try it. doing major back ups of your current config. If its not working the worst thing is you will have to reapply the stock image and start over with your back ups.
CM7 for our tabs is in the works if you can wait it out a bit longer. Im not sure exactly what you expect to get from another rom??
Really I'm just looking for a little more speed and better battery life.
To me the Tab is still the best out there due to size and form factor.
But playing Anger Birds with wifi on seems to make my tab a little slower and lag.
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Khasmek's Rom and kernel do wonders for the cdma tab
There was somebody who tried a while back..I'm looking around now..but imo its not worth the risk when the performance is already available and tested
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jinsoku3g said:
Khasmek's Rom and kernel do wonders for the cdma tab
There was somebody who tried a while back..I'm looking around now..but imo its not worth the risk when the performance is already available and tested
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Do you have Verizon or Sprint GT?
I can tell you there are differences. I tried to get the sprint tab running CwM using the verizon bootstrap method and my tab is borked. Completely unresponsive except for the BSOD the phone ! pc graphic. I am pretty sure I could fix with odin but I dont have a pc. I am on vacation with my macbook pro and I think I am really gonna be screwed when the battery dies.... Anyone have a solution to this?
I have nothing to support this, but I have "survived" the "phone ! pc" and I *suspect* that the "phone ! pc" has to do with low battery (or some minimal power needed, even for download mode.)
In my experience, I *had* a fully charged tab when I've seen this, so it may be some misreading, somehow. I've forced myself to take a deep breath, plug into a wall charger and walk away for ~hour. After this, I can get it to Download Mode, and reflash with stock image. Scary and random, but I think it's meant as a symbol/message to have the device *fully* charged for attempting flashing, etc.
Again, this is theory only, but I've seen that screen 2x on both a sprint & verizon tab, and patience has won the day. Good luck.
uncorq said:
I have nothing to support this, but I have "survived" the "phone ! pc" and I *suspect* that the "phone ! pc" has to do with low battery (or some minimal power needed, even for download mode.)
In my experience, I *had* a fully charged tab when I've seen this, so it may be some misreading, somehow. I've forced myself to take a deep breath, plug into a wall charger and walk away for ~hour. After this, I can get it to Download Mode, and reflash with stock image. Scary and random, but I think it's meant as a symbol/message to have the device *fully* charged for attempting flashing, etc.
Again, this is theory only, but I've seen that screen 2x on both a sprint & verizon tab, and patience has won the day. Good luck.
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The phone...!...pc mode is like a backup download mode. From here, you can flash using odin or heimdall.

anyone still using the g1/dream.

If so what are you using it for? Phone or other. Need ideas not going to throw it out due to its beautiful history.
kidrobot52 said:
If so what are you using it for? Phone or other. Need ideas not going to throw it out due to its beautiful history.
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I'm afraid I'm also not using mine for anything, sitting a draw, but like you I'm definitely gonna keep onto it.
Alarm clock? You could get a 1.0 ROM or something and delete almost everything but the clock (and probably need a launcher for it).
Doorstop? It's pretty tough and chunky, and the chin might help.
A remote/Bluetooth keyboard for some other device, e.g. tablet. Idk how this would work, I've looked into it before but can't find answers.
Def sounds like a good idea for a remote. Maybe for you tube app on my TV or something other. Maybe give it to my daughter and tell her to have a ball.
Funny, I just found one of these phones at a garage sale today..... Perhaps some resource-unintensive Linux distro could be ported to it and it could be used as a small Linux box.
Still using mine as a WiFi hotspot. Since I have a free data only SIM with a volume monthly quota of 30GB
I'm using mine as a sacrificial phone when I'm kayaking. It's perfectly capable of calls, SMS, and MP3s still. The touchscreen works through a transparent drybag. I can be confident that if I should wind up in the water and the drybag should fail, it's no great loss.
Mine is with my 2 year old daughter. She play games on it ,really there is no other use.
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as a student living abroad, it hosts my sim card in my home country to receive sms from my parents, who are not good at smartphone stuff...
As a backup alarm clock!!!:thumbup:
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I was going to use it as a GPS and/or Speedometer, with no sim in it (on my motorcycle), but first i need to instal a power port! as the battery life sucks once i turn on gps....or the screen!
kidrobot52 said:
If so what are you using it for? Phone or other. Need ideas not going to throw it out due to its beautiful history.
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I want to use my G1 as a screen keyboard and mouse for my raspberry pi. It would be great if I could make it usb plug and play so I could just plug it into any pi and be off.
I'm using my old mytouch 4g as an IP camera. The g1's camera isn't as good but that's another idea.
update google g1 android 1.6 to 2.2 or latest
Hi,
i have rooted my tmobile android 1.6 to 1.0 and want to update it to 2.0 or later 2.2(froyo)
please provide working download links and full instructions
thanks
Just look at the stickied guide a few posts above this one, all info is there
And posting three times is just as good as once for future reference
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Using mine as a backup phone and experimenting.
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Mine is sitting in a backpack full of electronics. The camera is broken, though. It doesn't matter; It's running a ICS ROM which doesn't have camera working, anyways.
I lend it to my friend, he still uses it as a primary device !!! he was never interested in smartphones, so he is very satisfied with that phone
I Love G1
Mine, I'm still using it as my primary phone, I really love it.
I just picked up a package deal consisting of an HTC Radar 4G, a MyTouch 3G and this G1.
I have unlocked all of them (using a Lycamobile Sim). Unless I really fall for the Radar, I will probably sell it (worth more than what I paid for all 3) and keep the Dream alive :good:.
But first, need to get it up to Froyo. It will do what I need. It's the model T of Androids.
The MyTouch had a bad sim card holder, so I needed to do some solder work and hack the holder so that the card just falls in from the outside rather than slides in. The back holds it fine, but it probably not very salable (though the outside is in perfect shape)
Update-
Got the G1 rooted and running on Cyanogenmod 6. It was a struggle to find coherent , relevant, current (not really current, but currently working) info on how to work this ancient piece. It has given me a taste for it , anyway and I hope to try another ROM.
Frankly, I am just rambling to get my post count to 10 so I can ask a question in the modding forum....
It was sitting in a laundry hamper that I was using to store a bunch of old CDs and other stuff I don't use on a daily basis. It so happens that the hamper fell from the top of my bedroom closet and now I'm thinking of ways to use this thing, but the first thing that came to mind was to use it as a distraction for the kids. Now that I think about it, it could be used as a remote with keyboard and all. It's running CM6, but I'd like to know if there is a ROM that is very minimal. My phone has no ability to make calls anyway, but everything else works. Any ideas?

Samsung UK Support: Broken display repaired...but why did they wipe the phone?!?

This is a question and warning.
My S4 display broke. Had no backup as I had just transferred from my S3 and then wiped the S3
I sent it in and received it back.
They fixed the display.
AND...
[begin quote, their letter]
For peace of mind, your repaired device has also been independently checked by our Quality Team to ensure it is fully working order before we return it to you.
We've also installed the latest approved software as part of our standard repair process. This is to ensure you hvae the latest version of software which could include performance enhancements and new features.
[end of quote]
So what did they do?
THEY WIPED THE DEVICE, INCLUDING ALL MY DATA AND INSTALLED A BRAND NEW IMAGE.
It doesn't even have my Google accout or anything stored.
Wtf!?!?
This after a broken display. The "peace of mind" bit sounds almost as if they are making ridiculing me.
No idea whether this is standard Samsung behavior, but when I called them to arrange the pickup they told me nothing about wiping my device.
And no, I do not have a current backup, just like 6 months old, am on Linux and USB mtp is kind of sketchy on there..
Q: Is this standard behavior of Samsung? Or was I just "lucky"
Bastards!!!!
PS If requested I can put that letter online.
They always do and it does say somewhere
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mxn- said:
They always do and it does say somewhere
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Well, I called it in and was nowhere notified.
Nor did I see it on their webpage.
This is a crazy policy.
Thx for the quick answer.
But maybe someone can enlighten me, why does upgrading the OS, require wiping the user data?
We can do it without, so they should be able to do so too, no?
My nephew had to send his S2 in for warranty last year and they said his phone will be wiped but it wasn't. Maybe just depends on the repair centre but I think they should just fix the screen and leave any updates or wiping to to owner.
Seriously it makes no sense.
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Any company would tell you to backup your device before sending it for repair. Its not rocket science. When they do a repair they also test out every other aspect of the device to avoid any other problems that may occur.
Trueray said:
Any company would tell you to backup your device before sending it for repair. Its not rocket science. When they do a repair they also test out every other aspect of the device to avoid any other problems that may occur.
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Believe me, I would have if I could have.
USB MTP backup, requires mounting the device, which only works properly, IF you can unlock it, which you can't without display
The sdcard I took out, what do I know, maybe they would have wiped that one too, just to be sure...
av676 said:
Believe me, I would have if I could have.
USB MTP backup, requires mounting the device, which only works properly, IF you can unlock it, which you can't without display
The sdcard I took out, what do I know, maybe they would have wiped that one too, just to be sure...
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Are you sure?
I can use MTP without unlocking the device just fine.
So the broken screen shouldn't be a problem.
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Mithrandir007 said:
Are you sure?
I can use MTP without unlocking the device just fine.
So the broken screen shouldn't be a problem.
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Absolutely. I can mount it and see two directories the SD and EXTSD cards, but if I access them they are empty.
Then even KDE prompts me, is the device maybe locked?
I unlock the S4 and eg refresh the SD directory and voila all the directories appear.
This feature actually makes sense, security-wise.
If I remember correctly the S2 had a notification and asked you whether you wanted to grant access, but my memory might fail me here.
[edit: btw you are using a custom ROM, I was on latest stock]
av676 said:
Absolutely. I can mount it and see two directories the SD and EXTSD cards, but if I access them they are empty.
Then even KDE prompts me, is the device maybe locked?
I unlock the S4 and eg refresh the SD directory and voila all the directories appear.
This feature actually makes sense, security-wise.
If I remember correctly the S2 had a notification and asked you whether you wanted to grant access, but my memory might fail me here.
[edit: btw you are using a custom ROM, I was on latest stock]
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Indeed that makes sense, I thought about that right after I posted that.
Actually, I currently just use swipe to unlock, which might be the reason it works without unlocking for me, since there's no security anyway.
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It is possible the new screen needs a later firmware version to work correctly, while this is true in the i9100 and i9300, I doubt it's required for the i950x because the phone is only recent launched.

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