[Q] Telus official tethering & 7440 update? - Surround General

Has anyone received or heard word of a Telus official update enabling tethering on the HTC Surround?
I have the only other WP7 device that Telus sells, the LG Optimus 7, and while other carriers have pushed the update to the Optimus 7, Telus has not yet. I know this is an HTC Surround forum, but I recall reading a WPCentral article, http://www.wpcentral.com/canada-done-wp7, that mentioned Canada would be dropping WP7 support, and not pushing the tethering update. I disregarded the article as BS speculation, but its been a while, and I'm beginning to have my doubts.
So do you Telus users have any information?

After speaking to a Telus rep on this very topic today, the official word is no. They are not going to submit a ticket and offer the HTC firmware patch for 1st gen devices.
They are also only saying that any second gen devices will work if they are enabled out of the box. They have no confirmed eta on receiving any second generation phones, nor have a request in for them. They, of course, are towing the line on whether an unlocked new model not supplied by them will work, as they dont guarantee that all services may work on non-Telus branded hardware. I specifically requested info whether a firmware-enabled Mango - non-Telus phone would work, and they don't know.
I also got the feeling that Windows Phone is a non-issue, and they have no phones on the Radar (sic), and no guarantee they will ever get them.
I have a case opened to help me if I make the decision to move on to hopefully another carrier. I may entertain the idea of trying a gen2 device on their network if I can get one.
Grant

Thanks for the reply. Well I guess I'll be flashing the ROM in my phone to a carrier that supports the latest firmware (unfortunately LG phones don't have custom ROMs yet).
As to your question about unlocked phones on Telus network, yes they will work. The only configuration you need to do is for internet and MMS access, but there are XDA writeups. You will even have access to the Telus Windows Phone marketplace hub when it is all said and done. Just make sure you get an unlocked phone that supports the proper 3G brands i.e. any phone from AT&T will work otherwise you'll get stuck wtih slower EDGE Internet speeds.

That is my fear too. Now that Surround has been discontinued, we may never see another update as Telus appears to have lost interest. Why would they bother testing any new updates as they come along. If Telus doesn't test and approve them, MS won't push them out to us.
I hope I am wrong.
I may be forced to flash another non-Telus ROM. Any suggestions?

Great to hear that news Sonus. Mine current one is unlocked to pop in an AT&T sim when travelling in the US. I'll have to search around this site and see what if anything I can do with this one.
I had to laugh when the rep (after numerous holds to talk to their Product Manager) informed me I'd be better off with an iPhone or a droid. It's too bad that everyone I show my phone loves it, is amazed at it's speed, simplicty and ability to stream my stuff from home, yet not one mall dingbat has taken one out of the box
Grant.

You should have asked him when any of thier Android phones would be upgraded from 2.3 or lower to 4.0. Or when the iPhone would stop acting as only an app launcher.
FWIW I changed ROMs today going from Telus to an Argentinian carrier and tethering now works perfectly.

sonus said:
FWIW I changed ROMs today going from Telus to an Argentinian carrier and tethering now works perfectly.
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Interesting. Do you have a link to the ROM you used?

RebelMagpie said:
Interesting. Do you have a link to the ROM you used?
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Sorry, my phone is a Telus LG Optimus 7 so the ROM I used wouldn't work for your HTC Surround. But it seems like you guys have several ROMs available since HTC devices support custom ROMs.

sonus said:
FWIW I changed ROMs today going from Telus to an Argentinian carrier and tethering now works perfectly.
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Just flashed mine. Everything works, but.... it lost the voicemail access number. What number are you using for it now (I can't find one online that doesn't make me enter my mailbox number everything)?
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Jeffsey500 said:
Just flashed mine. Everything works, but.... it lost the voicemail access number. What number are you using for it now (I can't find one online that doesn't make me enter my mailbox number everything)?
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I can't get MMS to work... Anyone know how to fix this for TELUS?

Jeffsey500 said:
Just flashed mine. Everything works, but.... it lost the voicemail access number. What number are you using for it now (I can't find one online that doesn't make me enter my mailbox number everything)?
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I can't get MMS to work... Anyone know how to fix this for TELUS?
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Did you ever figure out the number for MMS? Also, do you have the link to the rom you used?
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Have you tried installing and running HTC Connection Setup? It seems to do a great job of seting up the appropriate operator settings in my experience.

After i did a hard reset of my phone, post a Mango update, i don't see HTC Marketplace on my phone. Is there any other way of getting HTC Connection setup?

mangojain said:
After i did a hard reset of my phone, post a Mango update, i don't see HTC Marketplace on my phone. Is there any other way of getting HTC Connection setup?
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Side load it, I managed to find the XAP.

After my last hard reset (when I upgraded my SD card) I couldn't see the HTC marketplace either. It turned up after a day or so. Same with the Telstra apps. I'm not sure why this happened, but it was like it took a while to register itself to the marketplace with the appropriate OEM and carrier credentials. Eventually it all worked fine.

Jeffsey500 said:
Just flashed mine. Everything works, but.... it lost the voicemail access number. What number are you using for it now (I can't find one online that doesn't make me enter my mailbox number everything)?
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I can't get MMS to work... Anyone know how to fix this for TELUS?
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Voice mail number should just be your own phone number, as for the mms you can try sideloading the samsung tool xap, it has a function to run adc on, or just install htc connection setup app

Can I ask what ROM you guys are using? I'm a little miffed that I still can't tether with Telus and I'd gladly flash, but I no longer have any backup phones, so if I brick I'm hooped. I'd like to just follow the same steps as someone who's got tethering working on a Telus surround. Thanks.

dtjohnst said:
Can I ask what ROM you guys are using? I'm a little miffed that I still can't tether with Telus and I'd gladly flash, but I no longer have any backup phones, so if I brick I'm hooped. I'd like to just follow the same steps as someone who's got tethering working on a Telus surround. Thanks.
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Using intrinsicROM (AT&T) here with IS enabled. I'm with Telus as well but I had my phone unlocked so its still working despite being with a different carrier. Not sure if we have a Telus rom here with IS enabled.

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Telus Hero

Hey guys my buddy has a telus hero and he is using it on AT&T here in the US. It hasn't received its notification for the 2.1 update. What gives? Is there a downloadable version of it? He doesn't want his rooted, because he doesn't want to constantly have to update his ROM.
change the date to a month ahead. if he doesnt get a notification then follow:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=714855
Should it pop up instantly when I change the date
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Can you post back if it works? I have some buddies using Heros who would be interested in this solution but not rooting.
Telus has been so slow rolling this out. On the plus side, the slowness made me root my Hero in the spring and I haven't even looked back.
No luck for me. But I'm not on Telus so I think that might be the problem.
This is an e-mail I got from Telus yesterday.
Hello again *****,
Unfortunately, I am only able to confirm that according to our Product Development Team, we will be releasing the Android 2.1 software upgrade for the HTC Hero sometime in late August 2010.
You may want to use the link below which will reflect the software upgrade once it becomes available:
http://www.telusmobility.com/en/BC/htc_hero_support/
For further information or assistance, please call our Client Care Team toll free Monday to Friday from 8:00 AM to 10:00 PM, and Saturday and Sunday from 9:00 AM to 8:00 PM at 1-866-558-2273.
Your patience is appreciated and thank you for your interest in TELUS products and services.
Kind regards,
Lori
e.Care Specialist
TELUS
I want to get Android 2.1, root access, and then overclock my Hero... is there somewhere someone can point me to? I'm on a stock TELUS Hero...
slaman said:
I want to get Android 2.1, root access, and then overclock my Hero... is there somewhere someone can point me to? I'm on a stock TELUS Hero...
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Custom Roms - A quick gogole or visit into the rom section will give you all you need
I personally use VillainRom12 - It is stable and fast and I have had no issues on the weekend, but that is the only one I have tried so far so you may fine differently etc, there are plenty of roms from different groups to try out.

Adventures in trying to get Phone calls

So, after having the tab for a day and a half, was getting twitchy on making phone calls.
I want that Phone icon on the screen!
So, after rooting (uber easy actually, z4root works a treat), got adbWireless to enable me to connect and got a shell.
Bit of juggling, mounting the /system and pushing in the Phone.apk's.
I've tried a whole bunch of Phone.apk's from anywhere I can find them basically, and still no joy as of yet.
In fact, getting a few errors now in a few places (PhoneInfo and TabletInformation errors).
Makes sense it's not trivial as we'd have seen something already probably.
And don't know if it's the phone.apk or the radio being used that's set to block.
How's everyone else getting on?
Thanks a lot for posting... I am anxious to see if we can do this... a friend of mine thought this would be a simple "install the phone apk" but we found that didn't work on Wednesday.
The only other one I've seen who's trying (publicly maybe?) is jdmadonna who posted his results over in the Tab Themes and Apps forum today that he rooted with z4root, then installed the phone.apk as you did, then the Tab started vibrating every few seconds and showed the message android phone has stopped working. When he rebooted, everything locked up apparently... he said he lost the network provider and baseband and could not bring them back, so he returned the tab. He had been looking for the Euro phone.apk, so I'm not sure if that's what he used here...
Guess it will not be as easy as we had hoped.... hopefully this nut can be cracked somehow.
Adding insult to injury is the Samsung T-Mobile user manual for the Tab which refers to it as a phone throughout! However, the pretty much useless pamphlet that T-Mo provides call it a "device."
Wish someone from Samsung would anonymously step in and help us out. The t-mo salesman I worked with (who was very helpful wrt to possibly using it as a phone) said he'd heard that some folks were/are? threatening a class-action lawsuit against the carriers... obviously a money maker for the lawyers... but I don't care... if it'd make them let us use it as a phone, that'd be fine with me.
Couldn't the carrier block phone access for the device by the IMEI number? Then it wouldn't matter what the user did, the tablet would never be able to make a call.
Here's what guyverunit had to say in this thread at post no. 52:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=832643&page=6
Someone else reported this too... when you press activate on the Verizon phones at the start, they MAKE CALLS OUT.... this is what he said:
"so knowing that Verizon was selling there version at Best Buy i popped in there today to check it out, see if there plans or anything were better. they had just taken it out of the box and were setting it up. i went to work and on my lunch went back. they had the display set up so i played with it. it was still at the activation screen, i pressed activate and behold it dialed out to do the activation. even had a phone icon in the top bar.
so i talked to the best buy mobile manager there and ask if they had gotten it passed the activation he said no but he would try again. he tried and it dialed out. i said oh so it can make calls, he said yes its just not put into the software to do it for the user end but yes, it can make calls. he also said he gives it two weeks till the DEV community hack it to do just that. LOL"
The t-mo phones do not make phone calls to activate... at least mine didn't... the sales guy activated it by using the bar code and the computer and no "activate screen" came up at all... went straight to browser.
Don't know if that means the phones themselves are different... or if Verizon just kept the Euro phone activation approach...
Maybe the Verizon phones would be the best ones to work with?
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The only other one I've seen who's trying (publicly maybe?) is jdmadonna who posted his results over in the Tab Themes and Apps forum today that he rooted with z4root, then installed the phone.apk as you did, then the Tab started vibrating every few seconds and showed the message android phone has stopped working. When he rebooted, everything locked up apparently... he said he lost the network provider and baseband and could not bring them back, so he returned the tab. He had been looking for the Euro phone.apk, so I'm not sure if that's what he used here...
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One of the Phone.apk' did that for me too. The Phone.apk I'm using now has stopped showing me the connection in the top bar, so looks like that's related to that as well, but at least it's not crashing like it was.
I should really reflash back to base (is that possible atm?) and see what's doable.
I'm still holding on for a euro rom that's flashable to enable everything.
Do you think the Euro rom will work with US hardware, or should they be identical?
I was curious about Paten's question re the IMEI no. possibly being blocked and did a little searching...
I found a freelance programmer's site... codepainters blog....
http://codepainters.wordpress.com/2009/12/11/android-imei-number-and-the-emulator/
and in the course of saying how to change the IMEI number, he says this at the beginning:
"Anyway, code analysis shows that IMEI/IMSI request goes down through all the telephony layers (see the diagram), eventually getting to the baseband device."
I find this interesting because jdmadonna and you describe the phone.apk causing problems down to the baseband level... as did you...
Obviously, IANAAD (I am not an Android developer - my programming days are way in the past)... so maybe there are myriad other things that can cause a problem down to the baseband level...
Maybe it's just as simple as unblocking the ISEI no. as Paten suggests...
I'm also hopeful about the Euro flash, but am not brave enough (nor do I know how) to do it!
You guys are using a different SIM from the one you received with your Tab right? (if you got it on a plan). One that you know voice calling works on?
In Australia, the Tab does not have voice disabled, but they force you (for the initial launch) to sign up for a data only plan. The SIM you get on this plan is blocked for voice, but works for 3G and even sending SMSs.
You just might want to make sure that the SIM you have in actually works for voice in case you DO get it working from a software perspective, but it is just the SIM that is stopping the call.
Aye, swapped the sim over from my other phone (though the PAYG sim I got actually did support voice/data apparently, but I didn't want to risk it so took a known working sim)
Phone.apk
Radio stuff
imei
Don't know. Could be any of them, or combo of 2 or more even.
It's really crazy. I appreciate they probably want to keep it simple as a tablet device, but they're missing out on revenue. "Want to use voice? that's available for another 10 bucks and/or a different(more expensive) sim"
Keeps it working for people who just want a tab, and gets more cash from people who want to dump their phone.
Think it's telling that ALL the telco's are limiting the voice as if anyone of them broke ranks and offered voice, they'd all have to.
Guess we'll see which Telco chickens out first!
/sigh
Re the SIM card... the holder mine came in does say data only, but the tmo rep said it could still handle voice.. seemed odd to me... since jyveafk has tried switching it, guess I'll wait to see if a solution turns up... or the tab is going back and I'm not getting a new phone when my contract's out in protest!
I can phone from mine...
TheGrammarFreak said:
I can phone from mine...
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Everyone loves a nice ass...nobody likes a smart ass.
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Everyone loves a nice ass...nobody likes a smart ass.
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I'm just saying. Mine came with ability to phone. I bought it unbranded, with no contact if that makes any difference.
Swyped from my Galaxy Tab
I love how he puts in his second post "Swyped from my Galaxy Tab" what a loser! ! !
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I'm just saying. Mine came with ability to phone. I bought it unbranded, with no contact if that makes any difference.
Swyped from my Galaxy Tab
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If you had followed your own advice (search and engage brain ), you would realize that they are talking about US Tabs, as the phone function has been disabled on these.
Euro Tabs have phone functionality as standard and the Yanks already know this so your post came over as a little sarcastic!
Regards,
Dave
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I love how he puts in his second post "Swyped from my Galaxy Tab" what a loser! ! !
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Cheers dude, it's just what the XDA app appends to my posts.
Also, I'm sorry about getting the "nationality" of the tab wrong. Upon re-reading the thread I can see my error, sorry.
As it appears I'm not welcome here I'll stay in the legend section, bye...
Swyped from my Galaxy Tab
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I can phone from mine...
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I'm sure the Americans, with their American Tabs, and questions about their American Tab making phone calls, really appreciate your input so much right now...
Actually...
TheGrammarFreak
Any chance you can adb pull the Phone.apk from your Tab please?
I've been using the Galaxy phone .apk's, not another Tab's Phone that's known to work. Perhaps this is the issue.
Can you pull it and post it please?
(plus, what country/provider are you on?)
alright guys. im gonna take the plundge. i noticed a dead pixel on my tab so its going back to tmobile for a replacement. i thought i would try the euro firmware before returning it. so guys, need your help! which firmware should i flash and whats the procedure for it. links would be helpful.
the firmwares are here, i dunno which one to flash tho.
http://www.4shared.com/dir/PYh2eQTG/ROMs.html
theres a great chance im gonna brick it, but since its going back, i thought i would try and just make up some excuse if they ask me what happened. help me out so i can help u out!
P1000XWJK1.
Thank you! thank you! Thank you!
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I'm sure the Americans, with their American Tabs, and questions about their American Tab making phone calls, really appreciate your input so much right now...
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Look, I'm sorry ok? I didn't think before posting
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TheGrammarFreak
Any chance you can adb pull the Phone.apk from your Tab please?
I've been using the Galaxy phone .apk's, not another Tab's Phone that's known to work. Perhaps this is the issue.
Can you pull it and post it please?
(plus, what country/provider are you on?)
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UK, Vodafone. I'll post the apk soon, on the move at the moment

Froyo update - Virgin Canada

Any idea when its coming?
Maybe the question should be more like: "Will it be released in Canada"
i highly doubt it will be out before the generic htc froyo rom...so i want to de-brand and flash the generic rom...
can anyone recommend a good guide for flashing the generic froyo rom to our specific model virgin canada legend? thanks in advance...
Canadian carriers are pretty awful at releasing updates in a timely fashion. Hopefully Virgin will break the pattern. Just to give you an idea, the predecessor to our phone, the Hero, just got an update from Telus recently... to 2.1.
I contact HTC via email about the software update for Bell/Virgin HTC Legend and they tell me to ask it to Bell/Virgin. I sent an email to Bell without answer. If anybody gets an answer from them let us know!
There's another thread about this very topic at HowardForums (can't post the link due to new account restrictions).
But anyways, apparently one of the Virgin reps is "looking into it" .. maybe we'll get an answer there soon.
I have just gotten off the phone with Virgin mobile and HTC and told them that i have the 2.2 for my legend already installed and rooted all that fun stuff i got them to send me to tech support to get the APN settings for my baby and he also let me know that the 2.2 is in devlopment up there and will be released some time soon... no exact date but he's heard that they will be supporting it...also if they do release it OTA i think they may release a patch if you agree to the OTA you may loose root and possibly never be able to root again due to the new update.. Hope this was some help.
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HTC legend Rooted 2.2 FroYo Virgin Mobile
@virginmobilecan tweeted that it would be mid January prior to the New Year, and they have been releasing Froyo for the other phones fairly early than they promised, I'm thinking tomorrow?
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Out for Virgin, no clue about Bell.
EDIT: Yes, Bell got it too.
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Finally got it yesterday. Apps2SD is a lifesaver.
Can't change lockscreen anymore, so that sort of bites. Other than that, Love the new live wallpapers. Haven't noticed any speed increases, but It's not like i've been looking for them or paying too much attention to load times.
So far i'm really happy with it. Voice commands, flashlight, etc. all nice features.
It's a shame they didn't add the 2.2 camera interface.
Is the new version comes with the Wifi hotspot ? Anyone with the new official update let us know?
Also i'm wondering if i flash mine with the new official update, whether i can still root ?
I would like to have the wifi hotspot... coz i heard with the official update they removed this functionality that normally comes with the unbranded OTA froyo.
Thanks
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Is the new version comes with the Wifi hotspot ? Anyone with the new official update let us know?
Also i'm wondering if i flash mine with the new official update, whether i can still root ?
I would like to have the wifi hotspot... coz i heard with the official update they removed this functionality that normally comes with the unbranded OTA froyo.
Thanks
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It is there. Just checked on my wife's Legend.
Generally, it has been a great upgrade. The only issues are that a couple apps have not been updated by their authors in a LONG time so they do not work well on 2.2 and that for some reason, the screen lock dots were set to only come on after 5 minutes of non-use. My wife had it set to immediate before so she was annoyed that that changed.
App 2 SD isn't the lifesaver I was hoping it was... I find the apps still take up some space on the main phone even after you move them to SD. Frustrating.
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I would like to have the wifi hotspot... coz i heard with the official update they removed this functionality that normally comes with the unbranded OTA froyo.
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I'm a Rogers customer who purchased an HTC Legend from a VM customer. Contrary to what I was told by VM, I did receive the Froyo update (today) when I checked for it on my phone (it wasn't pushed).
It includes the wifi hotspot (YAY) and while it doesn't permit pushing all apps to the SD card, it has let me move most of them there, so I'm hoping the 'low space' messages are a thing of the past.
Can't say I notice a big speed boost, but the wireless tethering is big to me, as is the ability to move most apps to the SD card. Looking forward to better voice recognition too.
All the best and good luck with your phone!
Phone seems sluggish at times after my official froyo update... even have to reboot a few times when it becomes too sluggish... i've moved all movable apps to sd but some big ones can't be moved... like swype freaking 18MB and IGO 29MB...
sluggish like finger swiping the pictures from my alblum is really slow and the picture does not follow my finger unles i move it mm by mm and slowly...
anyone experienced that?
A friend of mine on Bell's Froyo has that constantly. A hard reset fixed it though.
you should notice that froyo is much faster than stock eclair...its not subtle at all
They offered me a discount on my monthly bill for 3 months because of the mess up on android 2.2, but when I got the bill, it was still the same amount...
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Oh ho ho, they do that sometimes as a joke. They treat us like chickens...
Just call customer service and demand a 6 month adjustment, instead.
Or, before you demand such a thing, check your account's notes to see if it will be added on to the next bill. Bell and Virgin operates on advanced billing.
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I'm a Rogers customer who purchased an HTC Legend from a VM customer. Contrary to what I was told by VM, I did receive the Froyo update (today) when I checked for it on my phone (it wasn't pushed).
It includes the wifi hotspot (YAY) and while it doesn't permit pushing all apps to the SD card, it has let me move most of them there, so I'm hoping the 'low space' messages are a thing of the past.
Can't say I notice a big speed boost, but the wireless tethering is big to me, as is the ability to move most apps to the SD card. Looking forward to better voice recognition too.
All the best and good luck with your phone!
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My situation is the same. But I get the update pushed to me.
After updated, it stuck at loading on homescreen for half hour now.
anyone has the same problem? should i just pull the battery?

Tmobile version get update

Android central say there is an update of 174 MB. Did any user got it ?
bikrame said:
Android central say there is an update of 174 MB. Did any user got it ?
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Android Central hmzzz don't believe everything they are saying.
They also said you loose image quality /features in the camera if you unlock the bootloader which isn't true.
Notice any differences in how it operates? No notice of any available update on my device as of yet...
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Android Central hmzzz don't believe everything they are saying.
They also said you loose image quality /features in the camera if you unlock the bootloader which isn't true.
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The update is happening...MicroMod777 on the "Disable OTA" thread got it this morning...
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Android Central hmzzz don't believe everything they are saying.
They also said you loose image quality /features in the camera if you unlock the bootloader which isn't true.
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Some users on their forum also says that. ATT got it 2 days before and we are getting it to.
I hope they move dual window back to back button. Thats all i need.
I have a H815. So i don't think I will receive an update then
https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-22421
Pretty sure its true, but ATT's was only like 25mb
What I don't understand as an EU G4 user.
Why does T-mobile provide an update? Is it an update on their software? Or is LG involved?
Are there specific T-mobile apps on it?
I got the update this morning. To answer a couple of questions: No, no new apps. Dual window is still in the same place.
I dont notice anything right offhand different, but I havent done much with my phone yet this morning. Heres a capture of my info:
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Android Central hmzzz don't believe everything they are saying.
They also said you loose image quality /features in the camera if you unlock the bootloader which isn't true.
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You're kidding - I always thought they knew what they were talking about. Where did they say that?
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What I don't understand as an EU G4 user.
Why does T-mobile provide an update? Is it an update on their software? Or is LG involved?
Are there specific T-mobile apps on it?
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T-Mobile (as well as most carriers) ship out the updates after they've approved the changes. I would imagine this is to ensure that nothing being updated will affected their carrier's included Spam (I mean added software) or network connectivity. Last thing they want is their stores or customer service lines inundated with "help! The update broke my cellular connection!" claims.
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blackangst said:
I got the update this morning. To answer a couple of questions: No, no new apps. Dual window is still in the same place.
I dont notice anything right offhand different, but I havent done much with my phone yet this morning. Heres a capture of my info:
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If you do notice anything of real substance, please post it so that we can know. For now, I think I will avoid connecting to WiFi until I know what this update actually does. I've never been a fan of generic changelogs...
But then it's a little bit strange that the international version. Hasn't got the update.
So you could assume it has to do with their spam apps.
Maybe it fixes the touchscreen issue. I haven't gotten an update yet, and I've switched back to my S5 for now.
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But then it's a little bit strange that the international version. Hasn't got the update.
So you could assume it has to do with their spam apps.
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Could have to do with any number of kernel/lib/framework related items specific to carrier. Could be cellular radio related, WiFi related (wifi calling has been weird on my phone...doesn't want to seem to connect but I have awesome reception where I live, so I don't need it), etc...
Has your version had any updates in last week or two? If so, it might just be that the carriers are just now approving that update and pushing out to the devices.
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You're kidding - I always thought they knew what they were talking about. Where did they say that?
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That is true for certain phones. Like the Sony phones.
Sweet. Pretty quick imo. Look forward to seeing if it fixes some small issues I've been having (touch/tap misses and knock settings). I know knock settings are a longshot, but it would be nice to be able to configure them to each persons liking. I'd love to be able to turn off the "drag one finger down to quick view the clock/status"
I got my update overnight.
Phone updated without any warning or notice when I woke up this morning. CHecked the software version and it was the new one.
I havent noticed any differences as of yet.
Actually I just looked at my phone and already running version h I wonder if from the factory there were two different images
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Th3Bill said:
Could have to do with any number of kernel/lib/framework related items specific to carrier. Could be cellular radio related, WiFi related (wifi calling has been weird on my phone...doesn't want to seem to connect but I have awesome reception where I live, so I don't need it), etc...
Has your version had any updates in last week or two? If so, it might just be that the carriers are just now approving that update and pushing out to the devices.
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No I haven't got any updates on my version (H815).
Got the update and my phone starting shaking and jumping around on my desk. When the update was complete it turned into a Galaxy S6
Since they are already working on root and unlock I wouldn't take the ota just yet. Ive got a replacement on the way so once I get the update I'll take it on the one I'm returning and see if any changes. Ill also do a system dump on the new version too if necessary.

Moto rolling out possible G5 Plus fix for poor audio on Verizon (NPN25-137-43-5)

Per this link to the Lenovo support subforum...
https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-G5-Moto-G5-Plus/5-Plus-on-Verizon-very-poor-call-quality/m-p/3771443#M9484
08-15-2017 10:01 AM
Hello everyone, if you're using the phone on Verizon, can you got to Settings and check for an update. Let me know if there is one available. If so, please install it and let us know if it's better.
-Tom
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Looks like one has to be on the Verizon network at the moment to get the update. I'm on a VZW MVNO and haven't gotten the update yet on my G5 Plus. Looks like its NPN25-137-43-5 per the Lenovo subforum thread link above. No word yet in that thread if it fixes the poor audio issue for we VZW users. (fingers crossed)
I just got my phone this past Sunday. I had one updated that brought me to -35 and then this afternoon another popped up (installing now) that is bringing me to -43-5. This one was a bigger download than the -35 was. As an aside, this was the easiest phone to get up on Verizon than any other I've done.
It appears the update is currently for the non Amazon ads version of the G5 Plus. That it is for "verizon users" only at the moment. And no word yet if the update contains any additional fixes (like low headset volume) or security patches beyond the VoLTE Verizon voice issue fix.
Hopefully we can get a TWRP flashable version of this. Mine is unlocked, TWRP installed, and rooted and haven't gotten the update.
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I just got my phone this past Sunday. I had one updated that brought me to -35 and then this afternoon another popped up (installing now) that is bringing me to -43-5. This one was a bigger download than the -35 was. As an aside, this was the easiest phone to get up on Verizon than any other I've done.
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I just got NPN25.137-43-5 here!
March 1, 2017 Security Patch Level, Kernel version: 3.18.31-perf-gb150e16-00024-g727ad83 [email protected]#1
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Nnyan said:
I just got my phone this past Sunday. I had one updated that brought me to -35 and then this afternoon another popped up (installing now) that is bringing me to -43-5. This one was a bigger download than the -35 was. As an aside, this was the easiest phone to get up on Verizon than any other I've done.
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I just got NPN25.137-43-5 here!
March 1, 2017 Security Patch Level, Kernel version: 3.18.31-perf-gb150e16-00024-g727ad83 [email protected]#1
I snatched the ota for NPN25-137-43-5. It's available here. I'm currently using a Verizon MVNO.
Could someone please create a flashable zip for twrp?
Does anyone know if straight talk supports volte, when using Verizon sim? I'll get the volte icon in my status bar, but have never seen a way to enable/disable it. I've also never had problems with call quality. Which leads me to believe that maybe straight talk doesn't really support it.
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Does anyone know if straight talk supports volte, when using Verizon sim? I'll get the volte icon in my status bar, but have never seen a way to enable/disable it. I've also never had problems with call quality. Which leads me to believe that maybe straight talk doesn't really support it.
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The only MVNO that supports VoLTE and VVM is Boom as a standard feature. But I know Total Wireless supports VoLTE on some devices. I use them and still have horrible call/audio quality. I literally have to be on speaker to talk.
Another update from Lenovo. Will be disappointing news for some who will have to wait several more weeks (or longer) before getting the OTA update if they don't decide to push the update themselves using the file discussed recently in another XDA thread.
https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-G5-Moto-G5-Plus/5-Plus-on-Verizon-very-poor-call-quality/m-p/3777525#M9883
08-21-2017 07:22 AM
Hello everyone,
Thank you to everyone who has gotten the update and has provided feedback. So it looks like we have some confusion and I'd like to provide some feedback. If you had your VZW SIM out of your phone and somehow got the Security patch in June (May security update) then sadly your device will have to wait for the next round of updates. We didn't push the May security update to devices that had an active VZW SIM installed. That being said you'll still get the update but it's likely going to be at least a couple weeks away (hopefully sooner). I know it's not the best scenario, but I wanted to at least give you guys some more information.
-Tom
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I'm using Verizon wireless network never pulled my SIM card I received an update about a week ago and my HD /Volte working great now. Very pleased with the phone now.

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