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The well known TyTN/HERMES Screen Alignement problem and the black P3600/Trinity peeling off (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=287713) revealed us the weakness of HTC service in Italy.
Many users are waiting MONTHS to have a Qtek back (not always repaired, sometimes they haven't parts), still unclear even IF and WHO has italian warranty, no on line service at all (just e-mail but in english only), no way to understand IF an HOW the updates wil be delivered to the customers.
Italian thread is here:
http://www.solopalmari.com/smf/index.php/topic,13567.0.html
We are looking for users to sign a petition to ask a roadmap to increase the quality of HTC service in Italy (to have it at the DELL or HP handheld standard, we are HANDHELD owners more than cellular phones owners and we put OUR BUSINESS on It) here:
http://www.petitiononline.com/solopalm/petition.html
International users I am not expert in other countries HTC service but if I look to the HTC website, I see no real on line services at all, not even gadgets (like HTC Xbutton).
Post sales service is a MUST for those high end (and high price) devices and the better customer is... your customer, take care of him! If you understand italian help us to establish a new standard for HTC post sales services, if they could do in Italy in many other EU countries will be easier!
Moderators, this message could be sticky for a while? We had the same privilege here: http://www.solopalmari.com/smf/index.php/board,31.0.html as help to the HERMES/TRINITY comunity
Customer respect is simply not taken into account in Italy. 50% is our fault.
lellobello said:
Customer respect is simply not taken into account in Italy. 50% is our fault.
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I agree, I lived enought time in Europe to believe that this is a thing we HAVE to change. Just telling them it LOUD: GIVE US POST SALES SERVICE OR WE WILL STOP BUYNG YOUR DEVICES!
We have to learn to buy from companies giving us the service needed for toys were we would like to put big part of our business! (if you are a re-seller, if you are a company planning to use WM5 devices, if you are a developer, if you are a self-employed, even if you are a student or a scientist you choose tu put your business on those device!)
And INTERNET is a strong enviromnent were to explain this, you are not alone. We are telling to new customers THIS WAS MY EXPERIENCE, could be yours next time. We don't want HTC stopping his business, we would like HTC listening US!.
Hey, HTC, tell us how you solved (IF solved) TyTN SA bug, tell us if only the first release of TRINITY is a "black onion", peeling off the black coating, SWAP faulty devices (even with USED one), give us next day pick up service, 12 months swap service. WE (companies) WILL PAY FOR THIS, WE (retailers) WILL SELL THIS, WE (customers) WILL CHOSE.
Weeks (and NOT months) for service (warranty or not). Those are so-called HANDhelds because they are in HANDS and from hands to the floor the road is short! Then? No service! not from device, from HTC! This was our experience.
111 signers, also from europe and increasing. Thanks for supporting us and please, post everywere the link at the petition...
Io sono fra quelli! ekkekkappero!
Raga ma sta rom in ita quando diavolo esce?ma almeno dalla vodafone non si può avere?Magari uscisse HTC!!!
Oggi ho parlato con HTC e mi hanno detto che hanno rimandato l' uscita del rom in data ancora oggi da destinarsi.
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Oggi ho parlato con HTC e mi hanno detto che hanno rimandato l' uscita del rom in data ancora oggi da destinarsi.
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Per favore, se leggete l'ingese scriviamo in Inglese (o in due lingue) almeno le nostre proteste arrivano in tutta europa ed anche meglio alle orecchie di HTC inghilterra!
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If you read english please write in English too (or in both languages). This way our protest will reach all Europe and will reach better the HTC ears in UK
Hi
I am french but leaving in Italy for Business.
And I really can say that HTC customer service is a BULLSHITT !!!
No answer to the mail, nothing interesting on their "site".
What a shame for a such expensive device !!!
Come si dice in italiano: Bastardi, defficienti...e per finire pezzi di merda !
Eric
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rickiri69 said:
Hi
I am french but leaving in Italy for Business.
And I really can say that HTC customer service is a BULLSHITT !!!
No answer to the mail, nothing interesting on their "site".
What a shame for a such expensive device !!!
Come si dice in italiano: Bastardi, defficienti...e per finire pezzi di merda !
Eric
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Olè!
rickiri69 said:
Hi
I am french but leaving in Italy for Business.
And I really can say that HTC customer service is a BULLSHITT !!!
No answer to the mail, nothing interesting on their "site".
What a shame for a such expensive device !!!
Come si dice in italiano: [ not usefull for discussion ]
Eric
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Please I know quite well how to say in italian "bad customer service" but we are trying to IMPROVE the service and bad words aren't useful for this.
WORDS, posted everywere, will provide more pain,the REAL pain, in the pockets, in the bank account, the shareholders will become angry... so WORDS, telling the situation everywere are our strenght!
How do I understand if my HTC has the screen alignment problem??
I just purchased an HTC device (s-n: HTC647xxxx) and I would like to know how can I recognize if my device has the screen alignment problem. The only problem I discovered is that TomTom 6 is not compatible it crashes every time I run it. Please let me know.
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Please I know quite well how to say in italian "bad customer service" but we are trying to IMPROVE the service and bad words aren't useful for this.
WORDS, posted everywere, will provide more pain,the REAL pain, in the pockets, in the bank account, the shareholders will become angry... so WORDS, telling the situation everywere are our strenght!
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sorry
I was a litlle bit fed up
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iangil said:
I just purchased an HTC device (s-n: HTC647xxxx) and I would like to know how can I recognize if my device has the screen alignment problem. The only problem I discovered is that TomTom 6 is not compatible it crashes every time I run it. Please let me know.
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Using search in this forum (or also if you aren't familiar with english, in www.solopalmari.com forum, in italian)
THIS was the aswer to our requests from HTC EUROPE:
Is in Italian, but basically they said, "(...) we are committed to the best service since our direct presence into italian market and we are building and improving day by day our post sales support (...) Since DECEMBER (Great since OUR petition) we gave to Prima Comunicazione service to those customers having buyed their phone from Dangaard e E-Motion (ONLY THOSE? WHO KNOWS IF A PRODUCT COMES FROM DANGARD OR E-MOTION?)
You can for futher inquiry contact http://www.europe.htc.com/support/cs_by_email.html or use the call center 02-36003221, available from 08.00 to 18.00, MON-FRI"
They haven't read our requests or may be they don't know the answer... EXPANSYS Phones? E-Motion Updates? Service levels? Web support? Files, gadget, HTC club, on line community?
This seem a standard letter no thanks for chosing HTC, no real answers, they change the Provider is the same used for nokia... check nokia service in Italy
They have to learn A LOT and they would use our money to learn....
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ORIGINAL NOTE
Alcuni approfondimenti sul servizio di assistenza HTC Italia.
A seguito di segnalazioni di disservizi nell’assistenza post vendita pervenute da alcuni clienti finali, HTC rilascia la seguente nota per chiarire il proprio impegno nel fornire un esemplare servizio di assistenza alla clientela.
Fin dall’ingresso sul mercato italiano, dalla seconda metà del 2006, HTC si impegnata a costruire il proprio supporto post vendita e a migliorarlo in corso d’opera, per rispondere alle richieste dei propri clienti.
Infatti, a partire dall’inizio del mese di dicembre 2006 HTC ha affidato a Prima Comunicazione SpA la gestione del servizio post vendita dei prodotti a marchio HTC venduti in Italia. È responsabilità di HTC e Prima Comunicazione soddisfare le richieste di assistenza a quei clienti che hanno comprato direttamente un prodotto a marchio HTC da uno dei due distributori ufficialmente riconosciuti: Dangaard e E-Motion.
HTC prende in seria considerazione tutti i reclami e assicura che ogni problematica esistente verrà gestita individualmente.
Ogni utente che richieda un supporto post vendita o upgrade del software può contattare HTC all'indirizzo http://www.europe.htc.com/support/cs_by_email.html o chiamare il call center al numero di telefono 02-36003221, disponibile dalle ore 08.00 alle ore 18.00, dal lunedì al venerdì".
You can't really compare the backbone of Nokia and HTC. Nokia have been in the market, selling and supporting their own devices for years and years. HTC have only been supporting their own devices since July 2006. It will take time for them to refine their support system, change and edit their structure to suit customer demand.
Don't get me wrong! It sounds as though you are having a poor time of things, and I beleive that the nature of your "attack" on HTC will improve the quality of service and support for all... but I fear this will take many more months to address.
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You can't really compare the backbone of Nokia and HTC. Nokia have been in the market, selling and supporting their own devices for years and years. HTC have only been supporting their own devices since July 2006. It will take time for them to refine their support system, change and edit their structure to suit customer demand.
Don't get me wrong! It sounds as though you are having a poor time of things, and I beleive that the nature of your "attack" on HTC will improve the quality of service and support for all... but I fear this will take many more months to address.
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You 've got the point: Nokia is supporting and selling PHONES since years.
HTC is selling ICT, as Top HANDHELDS (targeted for business).
I paid a LOT of euro to have a tool for my business, as my PC, as my car, and I am expecting adequate services level. If I need a just a phone I never will buy HTC!
And this is the message to everybody and the lesson learned fron Italian experience: don't trust HTC if you need Windows Mobile Phones for business , at least until they grow-up from "children" to adult, (and with THEIR money and not with mine!)
HTC do u need some help? we are here!
That is it. It is being confirmed to people asking about WM7 rom update on the device. This info is given through HTC Iberia email support (Italy, Spain, Portugal) and will probably will be disclosed through other support centers shortly. So fear not, now if only someone could make it triple boot 6.5.3/7/Android.
Oh well...carry on.
EDIT: email confirmation from HTC Iberia Support a part of HTC Europe.
This has happened before, in Russia - and that time HTC head office rushed to contradict what HTC Russia tech support was saying. So you'll have to forgive me if I wait for an official announcement before cheering....
You are forgiven . I am not talking about a tweet by a russian that decided to jump the gun. This is a confirmed HTC email support that can be tracked through support number. If you are a owner you can contact them through email support and you will probably get the same awnser. This information is now available to all users though a date is not set, it will happen.
i will try and see
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That is it. It is being confirmed to people asking about WM7 rom update on the device. This info is given through HTC Iberia email support (Italy, Spain, Portugal) and will probably will be disclosed through other support centers shortly. So fear not, now if only someone could make it triple boot 6.5.3/7/Android.
Oh well...carry on.
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can you giv us a link for the reply
That would disclose HTC Global ContactUs System user login info, so no way.
But please contact Support and tell them HTC Europe is giving this info out and you can get your own response.
Can you paste the contents of the reply you got from HTC?
Google translator does a bad job at it, but you will get the picture. And I don't really feel like this is proof of anything, a liar would make up the text and put it here anyways, you folks are really jaded here ain't'ya...but just so you people turn those frowns around here it goes, this is the important part of the text HTC support sent me through email:
Prezado Cliente,
Obrigado por entrar em contato com o nosso centro de atenção ao cliente.
Estamos dedicados a fornecer-lhe o melhor serviço de qualidade e atendimento para todas as suas dúvidas e preocupações.
Você recentemente escreveu-nos sobre uma questão.
Quanto a sua Solicitação, gentilmente informamos que estamos trabalhando estreitamente com a Microsoft e planejando em trazer uma Atualização da ROM Windows Mobile 7,mas por enquanto não temos as informações de quando sera lançada.
Translates to "Thanks for contacting us. We are determined to be of service to you bla,bla,bla. As for your question, we inform that we are working along with Microsoft and plan to bring a update ROM for Windows Mobile 7, as of now we do not have a release date", this concerns the HTC HD2. OK? How happy are ya now?
i thought ms just announced there will be no upgrade for our beloved hd2?
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Dear Customer,
Thank you for contacting our center customer.
We are dedicated to providing you with the best quality service and care for all your questions and concerns.
You recently wrote us about an issue.
As for his request, kindly inform that we are working closely with Microsoft and plan to bring a ROM upgrade Windows Mobile 7, but for now we do not have the information when it releases.
jamieeeee - no they did not. Some people there are just way too tweet happy.
EddyOS - That is what I meant with; Google translation does a poor job at it.
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i thought ms just announced there will be no upgrade for our beloved hd2?
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In MS's words (or there abouts) they have always stipulated that there are no current plans to update any window 6.x mobile devices to WS7P (including the HD2)
No where in any statement that I have read does it say that it will not happen, it's always that there are currently no plans (that they want to allow in the public domain). Until they do this they I would not definatly rule it out, however I still wouldn't keep your hopes up.
jrrigney - the belief that it would not happen was based on a tweet by WP7 dev team and some sites picked up on it. That along with the Microsoft rep that made the three buttons remark constructed the case.
Microsoft also said it was up to the makers to give a path to WM7, that was discarded for the most part on most sites.
Now HTC support is able to give the same information I state on the first post. This information is now status quo and released through their support team in Europe. If you own one get in touch with them. If you get a conflicting reply please state so. This is not hope related as of now. As of now you all have to keep the pressure on them and let's not allow that they do an "Adobe" on us.
Not that I really am in any way bothered by 6.5 pm the HD2, this thing rocks and visual studio, basic4ppc and openplug allow me to do whatever I want with it.
i asked in three different locations in europe and wating for answer
i asked now in all europe regions with all languages even i asked in the us support for the tmobile version
I sent a message too. I hope this one is really true; it's not the interface of WP7S that I want (looks not as good as Sense to me), but new apps is really really important.
hoss_n2 - cool. I hope they are speedy.
ozkaya - always good to have options ain't it.
are we going to have topics about whether HTC/MS will give us WM7 over and over until WM7 comes out?
Even if they say yes, we still have to wait so why can't we just wait. They could say yes today but in 3 months MS could change some code that might make it impossible for WM7 to run and they have to say no again.
It's far too early to be going round in circles with the yes/no debate.
Sorry for sharing
i got my firstr reply now wating for others
Thank you for your enquiry about Windows Mobile 7.
The HTC HD2 was released to the market with the Windows Mobile 6.5 operating system. HTC is unable to confirm that this or any device will receive a future firmware update which will involve an upgrade to the operating system.
We are excited about future developments and are working closely with many partners and will post further information on our website.
We are unable to comment further on current developments in mobile technology. Please review the latest news announcement below regarding Windows Phone 7 Series
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i got my firstr reply now wating for others
Thank you for your enquiry about Windows Mobile 7.
The HTC HD2 was released to the market with the Windows Mobile 6.5 operating system. HTC is unable to confirm that this or any device will receive a future firmware update which will involve an upgrade to the operating system.
We are excited about future developments and are working closely with many partners and will post further information on our website.
We are unable to comment further on current developments in mobile technology. Please review the latest news announcement below regarding Windows Phone 7 Series
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I received exactly the same reply letter by letter when I contacted them a week ago. Maybe (and I really hope that) the location you have contacted hasn't updated the info yet. (It was UK for me)
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I received exactly the same reply letter by letter when I contacted them a week ago. Maybe (and I really hope that) the location you have contacted hasn't updated the info yet. (It was UK for me)
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uk also for me
I'm a (unhealthy) hard user of touch2/mega as a (job) phone device (about 50-100 calls/day) and for a while I decided to use only wired headsets(for a kind of some protection[?] against radio waves bla, bla whatever..), but for some (un)known reasons I cannot use a headset for more than 1-2 months. Let me explain this:
1. first (original) headset after 1 1/2 months lost for good;
2. second an original iphone(it costs only 25 eur from orange RO, almost a toy in a bad way of speaking, I will never use one again) unusable after 2 months because of lack of reliability(microswitch dead, no way to answer to a call);
3. third a hama headset(for only 15 eur the worst like call quality) after 2 months one headspeaker dead and microswitch messing around annoyingly often;
4. fourth (again) a htc headset from tattoo (bargain price 13 eur), very good quality, unusable after 1 month because of low audible signal, distorted audio signal in/out.
So, considering I cannot use (for reasons of compatibility, I've tried so many headsets nokia, even some htc older models, & others, no success so far) any kind of stereo headset with 3.5mm jack, here is my question:
where the heck I can buy a reasonable priced wired headset (preferrable a genuine htc, no bluetooth)) compatible with my Touch2/Mega (and of course in RO)?
Thx a lot, any suggestion is welcome!
poti incerca sanheiser
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poti incerca sanheiser
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You could try sanheiser.
Multam, o sa am in vedere:Sennheiser!
Momentan am rezolvat:un headset de samsung omnia 2(sa vedem si cat rezista, merge brici!).
Thx, I'll consider it:Sennheiser!
For the moment it's done: a genuine samsung omnia 2 headset for only 12eur(let see how longer resists, works like a charm!)
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Multam, o sa am in vedere:sennheiser!
Momentan am rezolvat:un headset de samsung omnia 2(sa vedem si cat rezista, merge brici!).
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salut, unde ai gasit si la ce pret?
la mine e firul cred intrerupt, am incercat o pereche de nokia, dar nu merg castile...
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Se pare ca cea mai bunã sursã e pe la samsarii(dealerii) de telefoane, de preferinţã mici, cã ãia mari n-au timp de "prostii".
Ce-am descoperit compatibil:
1. iphone orig.(se aud binişor,fiabilitate micã);
2. omnia2(se aud bine,par mai solide, 50 ron);
3. alte modele htc(tattoo,diamond şi probabil orice model mai nou cu jack3,5mm);
4. modele aftermarket(hama,sennheiser,etc),sunt mai scumpe,ai garanţie;
În principiu ar cam trebui sa meargã dela (aproape) orice model cu ieşire audio jack de 3,5mm, modele mai noi, cu procesoare peste 400-500Mhz, gen htc,sony,samsung,acer,motorola,etc.
Nu am idee de nokia, ce am încercat nu merge!
Indiferent de unde cumpãraţi, încercaţi-le temeinic: muzicã, convorbiri(preluâri apeluri,întreruperi apeluri) ptr. cã s-ar putea sã aveţi surprize neplãcute, mai ales dacã nu sunt din magazin!
Preţul (decent) ar trebui sã fie de 40-65 ron, dar în magazin pot sã ajungã lejer şi la 150 ron.
Eu prefer, dacã pot, sã iau dela dealerii mãrunţi, cu care poţi negocia direct şi care oricum sunt mai flexibili şi mai serviabili, cu condiţia sã aibã ce-ţi trebuie!
Baftã, cã aveţi nevoie!
It seems best source is little(independent/unofficial) phone dealers, 'cause the big ones are too busy for this kind of sh.t.
Discovered like compatible, so far:
1. genuine iphone(good audio quality, but unreliable because of microswitch);
2. genuine samsung omnia2(good audio quality, looks solid built);
3. other genuine htc models(tatto, diamond & probably any newer models with 3.5mm jack);
4. aftermarket models(hama, sennheiser, etc) are more expensive, but under warranty.
IMO it should work from (almost) any newer models with 3.5mm jack audio output, with at least 400-500Mhz processors, like htc, sony, samsung, acer, motorola, etc.
Everything I've tried from nokia didn't work for me!
No matter where you buy it, test it right: music, controls(in call, off call, etc), 'cause you may have unpleasant surprises after buying, especially for non-authorised dealers acquisitions.
A decent price would be 10-15 eur, but for authorised dealers it may raise to 40eur.
I preffer small dealers, 'cause you can negociate and they are more receptive&flexible, as long as they have what you need.
So good luck, 'cause you'll need it!
@LtBlue
Satisfied?
poti sa`mi dai ceva detalii despre telefon ,acu am un htc tytn 2 si as vrea sa`mi iau touch 2 ,apropo de casti .... eu am luat un kit original de htc de la un tip ,se aude perfect merg tastele ,deja are un an ,singura problema e ca s-a rupt clestele cu care`l prindeam de haina (ce`i drept nici nu prea am avut eu grija sa nu se rupa)
si revenind la touch 2 ,cum se misca windowsu ? e ok ?
INCLUDE ENGLISH !!! I'm FROM BULGARIA with almost the same problem ! it would be great to hear something about it but in ENGLISH ! Otherwise i can talk in Bulgarian , ето така / Just like that .... !!!!!!!!!!!!
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INCLUDE ENGLISH !!! I'm FROM BULGARIA with almost the same problem ! it would be great to hear something about it but in ENGLISH ! Otherwise i can talk in Bulgarian , ето така / Just like that .... !!!!!!!!!!!!
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Ok, ok...I'll translate it to you a.s.a.p....
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poti sa`mi dai ceva detalii despre telefon ,acu am un htc tytn 2 si as vrea sa`mi iau touch 2 ,apropo de casti .... eu am luat un kit original de htc de la un tip ,se aude perfect merg tastele ,deja are un an ,singura problema e ca s-a rupt clestele cu care`l prindeam de haina (ce`i drept nici nu prea am avut eu grija sa nu se rupa)
si revenind la touch 2 ,cum se misca windowsu ? e ok ?
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Touch2 e ok, eu sunt multumit de el (ca telefon de serviciu e cel mai bun), o sa vezi ca e altceva decat tytn, e mai compact, mai usor(e adevarat ca nu are full qwerty), tine la tavaleala(l-am trantit de vreo cateva ori si n-are nici pe dracu'), in functie de ROM-ul folosit se misca bine spre f.bine (ptr. procesoru' lui)...
Si cleste ptr. headset poti folosi dela aproape orice marca...
So like a month ago my cellphone was stolen (A Samsung Galaxy A8 which I miss deeply :'( ) and now i'm using my old phone which is a Moto G4 Play. Given that I find it quite "slow" in comparison to my A8 I'm already looking for a replacement phone. I'm considering buying a LG G4 because I came across an AliExpress seller who sells LG G4s for like 60 bucks (refubrished) and another seller from eBay sells it "new" (theorically) for $ 100. The thing is there is no phone with specs like the G4 for that kind of money (correct me if I'm wrong) but I already know all of the problems that can affect G4s so I'm not entirely convinced. So...
- If I buy one nowadays, is it probable I might get affected by bootloops ?
- How are the thermals with this phone? I read many cases of the phone overheating, is this common to every G4?
- How's development going right now? Are there any Pie roms being developed? (I'm looking specially for LineageOS 16)
Any more suggestion would be greatly appreciated. I really like this phone but If you think buying it nowadays is a bad decision, please let me know.
Thanks in advance
Naw its too old now
Hola amigo no sé si puedas entender español pero en mi opinión si vale la pena (y más con ese precio) los puntos buenos son:
Fluidez
cámara
Pantalla (es muy bonita) y además pienso que el diseño es muy elegante
y lo malo de este celular es la batería (3000 mha para una pantalla 2k es ridículo y con suerte llegarás a 3 horas de pantalla, yo en lo personal tengo dos baterías y cargo las dos y me duran el día exacto (a veces un poquito más) jugando pubg y viendo youtube, por cierto ese juego lo corre muy bien
y respecto a roms yo estoy en la stock 7.0 y me anda muy bien todo, con lo del bootloop tienes que destapar el teléfono, retirar la batería y ver en un papel que trae pegado la parte donde dice S/N Si empieza con el número 6xxxxxx o 7xxxx no te preocupes esos modelos no tienen bootloop
pero si es de 5xxxx e inferior esos tarde o temprano dan bootloop
PD: La cámara es sensacional, le gana a muchos gama media y se codea con algunos gama media alta
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So like a month ago my cellphone was stolen (A Samsung Galaxy A8 which I miss deeply :'( ) and now i'm using my old phone which is a Moto G4 Play. Given that I find it quite "slow" in comparison to my A8 I'm already looking for a replacement phone. I'm considering buying a LG G4 because I came across an AliExpress seller who sells LG G4s for like 60 bucks (refubrished) and another seller from eBay sells it "new" (theorically) for $ 100. The thing is there is no phone with specs like the G4 for that kind of money (correct me if I'm wrong) but I already know all of the problems that can affect G4s so I'm not entirely convinced. So...
- If I buy one nowadays, is it probable I might get affected by bootloops ?
- How are the thermals with this phone? I read many cases of the phone overheating, is this common to every G4?
- How's development going right now? Are there any Pie roms being developed? (I'm looking specially for LineageOS 16)
Any more suggestion would be greatly appreciated. I really like this phone but If you think buying it nowadays is a bad decision, please let me know.
Thanks in advance
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First thing that came up my mind... ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K7fCQlUhj0
It's just not worth it, many G4's have or will eventually get all kinds of problems.
You are better of with trying to save some money and buy a newer device.
The LG G4 never had good thermal performance to begin with and some G4's seem to perform worse than other at that regard.
Development is going slow since there aren't many Dev's interested in this device an many who where are long gone and moved to other devices.
At the moment there isn't any Pie ROM available to flash.
Hope this answers all your questions.
Well its a curious thing you ask.....
No.
Ebay sellers and the Ali Express are likely the same. person....
I have tried 4 of them.... and .................
Ive given up. As the phone is no longer supported. Youre stuck rooting and unlocking the bootloader.......not hard thankyou to @steadfasterX.
However you may miss some functionality..... like the radio (very important for me). I wish I could figureout the flashing of the different ROMS, as I think theres some very smart work still going on for this phone, albeit, its all experimental. None of it, will ever bring the phone back to the forefront of performance, just keep it "current", with Oreo. Im not sure how close to Pie being stable the phone is.
As for buying it from an ebay seller. I will tell you they are rebuilt, also known as a frankenphone.... Are they an 815? Who knows.
I have 1 of the 4 working, but it gets very very hot (CPUZ says 80C) when taking photos.....I had wanted a phone to take ultra long time lapse with (with an 8000mah battery), but......it shuts off after 3 hours of overheating. But itll do standy for about 3 weeks...lol. basically its an advanced alarm clock now.
I have 2 that never got into use, as they got stuck in a boot loop very early in my ownership (one, never turned on, just smoked in my hand)
1 Ive never opened.....just dont care anymore...
All of this makes me wonder how they got into market. I am still using my LGG3, as i was hoping to upgrade...but then my LG Tab III had a similar issue, hot cpu..... Ive come to the conclusion that LG shouldnt be in business with electronics... I see more vids on youtube about issues w LG phones than any other. But maybe Im just jaded.....YMMV
so the problem with this phone in general is build quality... it's a pity because spec-wise the phone is still kind of "up-to-date". I guess that's why they are so cheap in eBay and AliExpress. I mean i kind of already knew that they were rebuilt, but I was hoping they wouldn't have this bootloop issue (For what @Vishnuisgod says that might still be a problem) . Considering it's price, maybe the quality issues this phone have are the reason why they are so cheap
@ lcorado gracias por la informacion para identificar si fue afectado o no por el bootloop, pero la verdad es que no se si me quiero arriesgar comprando algo que tiene muchisimas posibilidades de fallar. Voy a pasar en esta (thanks for the information you provided to identify if it was affected or not by the bootloop, but the truth is that I do not know if I want to risk buying something that has a lot of chances to fail, i might pass on this one)
PS: do you have in mind any "old" phone I could buy as new online, that is sub u$s 100 ?
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so the problem with this phone in general is build quality... it's a pity because spec-wise the phone is still kind of "up-to-date". I guess that's why they are so cheap in eBay and AliExpress. I mean i kind of already knew that they were rebuilt, but I was hoping they wouldn't have this bootloop issue (For what @Vishnuisgod says that might still be a problem) . Considering it's price, maybe the quality issues this phone have are the reason why they are so cheap
@ lcorado gracias por la informacion para identificar si fue afectado o no por el bootloop, pero la verdad es que no se si me quiero arriesgar comprando algo que tiene muchisimas posibilidades de fallar. Voy a pasar en esta (thanks for the information you provided to identify if it was affected or not by the bootloop, but the truth is that I do not know if I want to risk buying something that has a lot of chances to fail, i might pass on this one)
PS: do you have in mind any "old" phone I could buy as new online, that is sub u$s 100 ?
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nexus 5/6?
rodrigian said:
Any more suggestion would be greatly appreciated. I really like this phone but If you think buying it nowadays is a bad decision, please let me know.
Thanks in advance
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elephone A6 Mini?
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32974157055.html
@Vishnuisgod Nexus 5/6 are quite old as well and, correct me if i'm wrong, but spec-wise they lag behind to what's "usable" nowadays.
@obvious never heard of that brand. The thing with these chinese phones are that development isn't always on par with more important brands, and for me, being able to update my phone past it's "age" that's a very important thing
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@Vishnuisgod Nexus 5/6 are quite old as well and, correct me if i'm wrong, but spec-wise they lag behind to what's "usable" nowadays.
@obvious never heard of that brand. The thing with these chinese phones are that development isn't always on par with more important brands, and for me, being able to update my phone past it's "age" that's a very important thing
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Im still using an LGG3... it lags behind doesnt it, theres guys who swear by an LGG2.... dont get picky, up until 2 years ago I was using my Nokia 6500Classic. It did very thing I needed except gps....you know for a $200 (to $250)you can get a new phone that is a huge bargain, without all the worries about if its current. Check out some of the Nokia offerings, or Motorola (who seem to be kicking ass in the budget segment). If you cant afford $200 then you likely cant afford $100, so your point is moot....
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So like a month ago my cellphone was stolen (A Samsung Galaxy A8 which I miss deeply :'( ) and now i'm using my old phone which is a Moto G4 Play. Given that I find it quite "slow" in comparison to my A8 I'm already looking for a replacement phone. I'm considering buying a LG G4 because I came across an AliExpress seller who sells LG G4s for like 60 bucks (refubrished) and another seller from eBay sells it "new" (theorically) for $ 100. The thing is there is no phone with specs like the G4 for that kind of money (correct me if I'm wrong) but I already know all of the problems that can affect G4s so I'm not entirely convinced. So...
- If I buy one nowadays, is it probable I might get affected by bootloops ?
- How are the thermals with this phone? I read many cases of the phone overheating, is this common to every G4?
- How's development going right now? Are there any Pie roms being developed? (I'm looking specially for LineageOS 16)
Any more suggestion would be greatly appreciated. I really like this phone but If you think buying it nowadays is a bad decision, please let me know.
Thanks in advance
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buy xiaomi instead.. say redmi note7 pro
https://www.computerworld.com/article/3389658/lg-upgrade-letdown.html
its a common theme around the net, as i scroll endlessly, I see things about LG that are bad; warranty issues that are dismissed (fridges), TV's that have glitches.... Im encouraging all ppl I know to shy away from LG.
This is the first smart watch that I buy from this producer.
In the past I owned the Moto 360 2015 model and I was so happy from it, apart from the battery life.
Now I decided to buy the Gen6 as I am expecting that this new chipset has a lot to offer.
I went with the brown leather option and bought it through Germany, as there was no delivery to Cyprus where I live.
I ordered it on the 1/10 and finally received it yesterday through a dropshipping company.
I just got this watch from a Black Friday sale on Amazon for under $200. I got the smoked stainless version. So far I'm pretty happy with the watch. I'm also interested to see what kind of tips there are for this watch to extend battery life.
Anyone else get this watch recently?
Beautiful but terrible battery drain ... only 15 hours ... damn ...
Yeap 15 hours seems to be the normal for this watch unfortunately.
But the fast charge is awesome, so no many other options I am afraid.
Can someone please tell me the code name of this watch/Fossil gen 6?
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Can someone please tell me the code name of this watch/Fossil gen 6?
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the model like mine made all in steel is called FTW4059
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sorry, FTW4059 are the SKU .... the model number is DW13F2 but I don't know if corresponding to codename...
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I changed the strap !
got
Got the Cammo one on offer for £195 Amazon was torn between Amazfit GTR3 Pro and the Huawei GT 3 but wear OS offers a bit more Huawei have good battery but software is limited and watch faces as well Amazfit I'm not familiar with so didn't want take risk so went fossil Gen 6 lovely build quality and not as big as the Amazfit and love the Cammo Strap with the Matt black , ok battery is only 24hrs but that fast charge is a game changer , happy so far and wear OS 3.0 is supposed to be soon although as the box states works on iOS & android as far as I'm aware atm wear OS 3.0 isn't compatible with iOS so will we actually get it
Bonjour à tous , j'ai acheté la fossil gen 6 j'en suis très content mais j'ai un petit souci.
Quelqu'un peut me dire si comme moi vous avez 4,62 giga au total de mémoire de stockage au lieu de 8 ?
On peut le voir dans l'application Wear os.
J'ai fait remplacer ma montre par une neuve et j'ai toujours 4,62 go au total.
J'ai aussi contacté le service technique de fossile qui n'apporte pas de réponse
Si vous pouvez vérifier cela me serait très utile.
J'attends vos retours merci.