So I have one of the USB keyboards and it works great, but takes up the port. There can be found here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1175316
I am honestly happy with that one BUT
1) I am wondering if there is a bluetooth keyboard folio/case yet for the Iconia Tab so the port is not taken
2) If there is an Acer branded keyboard so all of the keys will work with the specific tablet
3) do the Apple and Xoom bluetooth keyboard folio/case work with the Acer?
month later - anything?
thought I would bump this thread. Is there ANY Bluetooth keyboard folios / cases that works with the Acer yet???
I don't think that the xoom bluetooth shouldn't have any problems, because it's both Android and bluetooth.
I wouldn't buy apple's keyboard before you can go into a store and ask if you can try it (because it can have a security handshake with other apple hardware)
I'm looking for a case that can hold a keyboard and tablet in one, but havn't found one for the Acer just yes (if you find one, let me know)
Xoom keyboard does work and there is a keyboard that Acer makes, just google it .
But I haven't seen any bluetooth cases yet.
Here is one I am considering: http://amzn.to/xJLQIO
Reviews on it are a little hard to go by, since the only reviewers so far are Xoom or Thrive users, and I'm not sure how the dimensions compare.
The mounting solution is rather interesting. It comes with 2 different sizes of rubber pieces that slide over the corners of the tablet, then Velcro to the inside of the folio. With our tablets being a bit on the heavy side, I'm not sure how well or long that would hold.
One thing I like about this one over the USB one mentioned in the OP (aside from it leaving the port open) is that this is a free standing case that looks like it could sit on your lap fairly easy, whereas the other one has that narrow easel stand which requires that it sit on a flat surface.
I'm still torn between them. If I had the cash, I'd just buy them both and return the one I don't like but that's not really an option, so I'll just hope someone else on here has tried this case.
There is an acer A500 specific keyboard. I use it and it works well. It has quick access keys for swapping apps and such straight from the keyboard. Not sure about a folio case though. I just use a laptop sleeve to carry everything and a hipstreet tablet stand to keep the tablet up.
I use a BT keyboard designed for the HP Touchpad and it works great
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Check out eBay, they have some nice folio cases, pretty cheap too
DerTeufel said:
I use a BT keyboard designed for the HP Touchpad and it works great
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which one and does it hold the acer in safely?
hardslog said:
There is an acer A500 specific keyboard. I use it and it works well. It has quick access keys for swapping apps and such straight from the keyboard. Not sure about a folio case though. I just use a laptop sleeve to carry everything and a hipstreet tablet stand to keep the tablet up.
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Thanks for the info - can you please provide some links to the keyboard you like and use and the sleeve, etc. Thanks!
abrigham said:
Here is one I am considering: http://amzn.to/xJLQIO
Reviews on it are a little hard to go by, since the only reviewers so far are Xoom or Thrive users, and I'm not sure how the dimensions compare.
The mounting solution is rather interesting. It comes with 2 different sizes of rubber pieces that slide over the corners of the tablet, then Velcro to the inside of the folio. With our tablets being a bit on the heavy side, I'm not sure how well or long that would hold.
One thing I like about this one over the USB one mentioned in the OP (aside from it leaving the port open) is that this is a free standing case that looks like it could sit on your lap fairly easy, whereas the other one has that narrow easel stand which requires that it sit on a flat surface.
I'm still torn between them. If I had the cash, I'd just buy them both and return the one I don't like but that's not really an option, so I'll just hope someone else on here has tried this case.
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did you ever buy this one. I am looking at it now also. Thanks!
Likewise, I would like to know if this worked with the A500
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Likewise, I would like to know if this worked with the A500
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I bought the Kensington and it is GREAT. It is the only case i use with my Acer now. The keyboard is really nice, no lag and the entire thing is first class.
this is the best android-buttoned keyboard (IMHO) that i have found. probably gonna get it when i have some leftover cash. has anyone here tried it with our tab?
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Tablet-Bluetooth-Keyboard-SGPWKB1/dp/B005G2HSSY
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this is the best android-buttoned keyboard (IMHO) that i have found. probably gonna get it when i have some leftover cash. has anyone here tried it with our tab?
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Tablet-Bluetooth-Keyboard-SGPWKB1/dp/B005G2HSSY
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The keyboard in the Kensington FOLIO KEYBOARD CASE is almost exactly the same as that sony one, and you get the full case/cover.
The wireless keyboard in the Kensington folio is just about the best wireless keyboard I have purchased to date, and you get the case with it. Can use with or without the case.
well, i'm not really into the folios, and the kingston doesn't seem to have the android specific keys like the sony....
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well, i'm not really into the folios, and the kingston doesn't seem to have the android specific keys like the sony....
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what do you mean? all of the keys work with Android perfectly??
if you look at the one i linked to, it has dedicated keys for back, home, multitask, menu, and search. the "android buttons".
the picture quality of the kingston wasn't that great but it didn't look like it had the dedicated android keys to me...
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if you look at the one i linked to, it has dedicated keys for back, home, multitask, menu, and search. the "android buttons".
the picture quality of the kingston wasn't that great but it didn't look like it had the dedicated android keys to me...
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the Kensignton one is NOT a cheap overseas one - it is much nicer
Check out this page on their website for info, videos, etc -
http://www.kensington.com/kensingto...niversal-bt-keyboard-case-for-10-tablets.aspx
This is their brand new one that looks amazing -
http://www.kensington.com/kensingto...pert-folio-keyboard-for-android®-tablets.aspx
I DID NOT buy direct from them as I found them much cheaper elsewhere
i said PICTURE quality was not that great. kingston is a good brand, i've bought their products before.
perhaps you could take a picture of your kingston's keyboard so we can see what the key layout is? i can't find a good pic online.
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Has anyone done testing with a stylus for the A500? If so, what were your thoughts?
I'd like something I can use to either draw quick sketches for photo ideas, or something I can use to jot a quick note here and there (of course, I'd probably need an app that supports handwriting, but those may come in time).
I purchased a Targus stylus today. Having come from the old pre-capacitive days when the stylus is hard, the new stylus' seemed a little odd but I must say the control is very good. Pin point accuracy - excellent for drawing.
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I purchased a Targus stylus today. Having come from the old pre-capacitive days when the stylus is hard, the new stylus' seemed a little odd but I must say the control is very good. Pin point accuracy - excellent for drawing.
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I also got the Targus stylus a week or so ago; and it does works well.. I saw another stylus somewhere online that is supposed to give you even finer control and allow you to actually see exactly where the stylus is touching the screen, but now I can't find where I saw it. I'm thinking about giving the new one a shot too, if I can find it again. ;-)
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I also got the Targus stylus a week or so ago; and it does works well.. I saw another stylus somewhere online that is supposed to give you even finer control and allow you to actually see exactly where the stylus is touching the screen, but now I can't find where I saw it. I'm thinking about giving the new one a shot too, if I can find it again. ;-)
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I think you're referring to this one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/DAGi-Stylus-P10...?pt=US_Tablet_Accessories&hash=item41582701ff
I have one and it works very well in general. The only issue is getting it at the right angle with the screen - particularly if you have the screen at an angle. But I like it better than the rubber tipped ones.
I bought the Boxwave stylus. I like it a lot. However it doesn't always catch it, sometimes it clicks on a screen I don't want or am scrolling through. But other than that, I am very happy with it for detailed work. My fingers get sweaty on occasion and I have a hard time using the screen when they are like that. So the stylus is a nice addition to have, especially if you don't like fingerprints.
I do wonder if it will somehow mess up the screen though later on.
Just curious, is there any way to get hand writing recognition to work? So for instance, if I bought one of these stylus's, would I be able to use it and forgo the need for an on screen keyboard?
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I think you're referring to this one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/DAGi-Stylus-P10...?pt=US_Tablet_Accessories&hash=item41582701ff
I have one and it works very well in general. The only issue is getting it at the right angle with the screen - particularly if you have the screen at an angle. But I like it better than the rubber tipped ones.
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Thanks. Yep, that's the one; I couldn't remember it's name at all.
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Just curious, is there any way to get hand writing recognition to work? So for instance, if I bought one of these stylus's, would I be able to use it and forgo the need for an on screen keyboard?
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I'm using flexT9 app which has peninput, but its not perfect, the capacitive stylus is more like big stick then a pen
Can anyone recommend a stylus that's got more of a penpoint tip rather than something the size of a finger?
With a capacitive screen I don't think something like this exists. Although I was in a meeting today with somebody taking notes on an I pad, not sure how they were doing that.
I own this stylus and I really like it. This is the only stylus I have used so I cannot compare it to anything.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004BSF1I8
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With a capacitive screen I don't think something like this exists. Although I was in a meeting today with somebody taking notes on an I pad, not sure how they were doing that.
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I got word yesterday that Acer is releasing one specifically for the A500. I will get more information and keep everyone posted.
I'm getting behind on everything as I had to go out of town for a few days on a business trip. Also, prototype custom Iconia case ships to me today for a review and should be available stateside after the 26th. It's similar to the FUSE.
I also use a Targus stylus for iPad as it was called.
Has a soft rubber tip, but works great on my device.
I have a griffin made for the Ipad but works on all my Android touch screens
drawing
This looks like a great one. I also found a video on you tube how to make one out of a pin and allum Fool
Going to try the DIY thing as it looks super accurate. If fails I'll be buying this one
http://cgi.ebay.com/oStylus-Capacit...?pt=US_Tablet_Accessories&hash=item4aab617685
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With a capacitive screen I don't think something like this exists. Although I was in a meeting today with somebody taking notes on an I pad, not sure how they were doing that.
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Youtube dagi stylus and you will see magic
my gf works at best buy and she got me the Rocketfish (best buy brand) stylus for 2 bucks lol. it works great with the iconia and ipads.
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I picked up the targus stylus from staples.its kinda OK.
But I do enjoy my hair stylists She rocks.geeky girls can look hot as well.giggles
Has anyone found an app that allows taking handwritten notes? Everything I have tested is really laggy for note taking.
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Has anyone found an app that allows taking handwritten notes? Everything I have tested is really laggy for note taking.
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Nah - all I've found are really crappy too.
Anyone try any Kindle DX case with the Iconia A500 yet? They are almost the same size -- I think the Kindle is less than 1/2" wider though.
Dimension
Kindle DX vs A500
Long side
26.4 cm vs 26 cm
Short side
18.3 cm vs 17.7 cm
Thickness
1 cm vs 1.33 cm
Also looks like the Viewsonic G-Tablet is almost identical in size.
Long side
26.7 cm vs 26 cm
Short side
17.3 cm vs 17.7 cm
Thickness
1.3 cm vs 1.33 cm
I was using this case and it did fit, but it made the tab very heavy. I like the Acer case better.
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Yes I have a dx case, this one
http://cgi.ebay.com/Android-10-View...&otn=5&po=LVI&ps=63&clkid=9203031377927262265
Fits great. Straps cover the buttons and charge port but not big deal
propagandax - i like that style. any photos?
i also like this... keyboard/case combo for the g-tablet.
http://www.amazon.com/Viewsonic-G-T...9N1O/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1305621130&sr=8-6
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propagandax - i like that style. any photos?
i also like this... keyboard/case combo for the g-tablet.
http://www.amazon.com/Viewsonic-G-T...9N1O/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1305621130&sr=8-6
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I have been looking at this but I didn't want to purchase it with out knowing that it will work. Can you post a pic or two of your your Acer mounted in the case?
Thanks.
depperly said:
I have been looking at this but I didn't want to purchase it with out knowing that it will work. Can you post a pic or two of your your Acer mounted in the case?
Thanks.
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he posted some pics in the Cases thread.
depperly said:
I have been looking at this but I didn't want to purchase it with out knowing that it will work. Can you post a pic or two of your your Acer mounted in the case?
Thanks.
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Here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13902786&postcount=64
I have the G-Tab case with the keyboard and it works great as long as you use a USB hub. it doesn't matter which one and you can multiple devices with the hub. I tested with two keyboards and they both worked at the same time. Without the hub, the keyboard will not work.
carlosmontanez said:
I have the G-Tab case with the keyboard and it works great as long as you use a USB hub. it doesn't matter which one and you can multiple devices with the hub. I tested with two keyboards and they both worked at the same time. Without the hub, the keyboard will not work.
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Here are some pics:
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propagandax said:
Yes I have a dx case, this one
http://cgi.ebay.com/Android-10-View...&otn=5&po=LVI&ps=63&clkid=9203031377927262265
Fits great. Straps cover the buttons and charge port but not big deal
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Found it on Amazon ($19) if anyone cares, about to pick it up.
http://amzn.to/jpE2a8
jtheking said:
Found it on Amazon ($19) if anyone cares, about to pick it up.
http://amzn.to/jpE2a8
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Ordered that one myself last night.
carlosmontanez said:
I have the G-Tab case with the keyboard and it works great as long as you use a USB hub. it doesn't matter which one and you can multiple devices with the hub. I tested with two keyboards and they both worked at the same time. Without the hub, the keyboard will not work.
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Thank you so much! I have the same case and I was bummed it didn't work.
Tried and it and it works beautifully! And I can use the mouse as well with the hub
Shigster said:
Thank you so much! I have the same case and I was bummed it didn't work.
Tried and it and it works beautifully! And I can use the mouse as well with the hub
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No problem. The mouse actually works too. You just don't get the pointer, yet. I believe Honeycomb 3.1 should take care of that.
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No problem. The mouse actually works too. You just don't get the pointer, yet. I believe Honeycomb 3.1 should take care of that.
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If you use the Mouse.apk that is floating around in development you do get a pointer =P
carlosmontanez said:
I have the G-Tab case with the keyboard and it works great as long as you use a USB hub. it doesn't matter which one and you can multiple devices with the hub. I tested with two keyboards and they both worked at the same time. Without the hub, the keyboard will not work.
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Just ordered this case and a very cool ultra portable USB HUB (link). With a bit of luck I think I can tuck this hub into the case and not have to have a second piece to lug around. I will post picks once I have it all together. With this case, that hub and my touch screen stylus (link), I think I have a laptop replacement. Well maybe not a full replacement, but a travel partner that can do everything I need it to while I am out and about...
depperly said:
Just ordered this case and a very cool ultra portable USB HUB (link). With a bit of luck I think I can tuck this hub into the case and not have to have a second piece to lug around. I will post picks once I have it all together. With this case, that hub and my touch screen stylus (link), I think I have a laptop replacement. Well maybe not a full replacement, but a travel partner that can do everything I need it to while I am out and about...
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My case was bigger than the tab so it would slide out a bit. Also I was worried of the flap holding it back coming in and opening the case and my tab coming out.
So I bought some of those velcro stickers (placed on top of some carbon fiber vinyl to protect the tablet) and voila, the tablet stays in place and can be easily taken off.
Just a tip if you want to secure the tablet a bit more
depperly said:
Just ordered this case and a very cool ultra portable USB HUB (link). With a bit of luck I think I can tuck this hub into the case and not have to have a second piece to lug around. I will post picks once I have it all together. With this case, that hub and my touch screen stylus (link), I think I have a laptop replacement. Well maybe not a full replacement, but a travel partner that can do everything I need it to while I am out and about...
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Here is a pic of the Iconia in the GTablet keyboard case. As with everyone else, I have to use a hub in order to get the keyboard to work.
It is a bit larger in dimension than the Iconia, but I found that the Iconia in the acer case fits like a glove.
jganyard said:
Ordered that one myself last night.
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Got it. Fits well except the power/sleep button was covered by one of the thicker leather corner holds. I had to flip it and now its covered by the thinner elastic corner hold, but is accessible
i just ordered the senyx leather case (for the Kindle DX) from amazon. they updated their description to include "A500 compatibility" hehe.
We'll see how it goes. Probably going to return the Acer OEM case today back to staples. not a big fan of it.
depperly said:
Just ordered this case and a very cool ultra portable USB HUB (link). With a bit of luck I think I can tuck this hub into the case and not have to have a second piece to lug around. I will post picks once I have it all together. With this case, that hub and my touch screen stylus (link), I think I have a laptop replacement. Well maybe not a full replacement, but a travel partner that can do everything I need it to while I am out and about...
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Thanks for the info. I like the hub and it looks like it should fit well inside the case.
Has anyone found a decent keyboard/case combination within the Uk? I'd like something that has the keyboard built into a leather style flip case. I had one (bluetooth leather flip case) for my iPad which was superb but the Iconia is a little too long for it
There are some on Amazon & Ebay, but people have reported in here that you need a USB hub to get the keyboard to work, which for me makes it useless. I don't want to have to lug around even more stuff!
The case also isn't a perfect fit.
Hi,
No personal experience but you might like the keyboard/case combination on eBay (search for object ID 160610349685 - Sorry I am not allowed to post hyperlinks yet)
The link refers to the Dutch eBay but I'll bet you can find the same device on the UK site of eBay.
HTH
Greetz,
S.J.Onnie
re Case/Keyboard
hi - i have ordered one so will let you know my thoughts once it arrives - not expecting to much but again it may okay for light use in the office and i will use my other case for normal wear and tear protection.
I own that case or something amazing close to it. The reports of needing a USB hub to get the keyboard to work are accurate. I ending up buying a L shaped 4 port hub, it sticks out of the case but allows me to have a mouse and a usb stick plugged in at the same time.
My hope is that once 3.1 drops I can loose the hub, but I am not holding out to much hope.
S.J.Onnie said:
Hi,
No personal experience but you might like the keyboard/case combination on eBay (search for object ID 160610349685 - Sorry I am not allowed to post hyperlinks yet)
The link refers to the Dutch eBay but I'll bet you can find the same device on the UK site of eBay.
HTH
Greetz,
S.J.Onnie
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I believe you mean this one - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160612016080
does anyone actually own this one and can they report if it actually works, functionality, etc.
Thank you!
i own one of this, i like the case a lot, it looks stylish and it's very good for note taking, i also use a bluetooth mouse for easy access, the keyboard is made for windows (it has windows key) and havent found a way to bind the back action with any key, most keys works as intended, even the menu key (next to alt gr), but it seems tha honeycomb is not made to be used with just keyboard, you need to use the touch screen or a mouse. the case weigth a little bit less as tablet, has 3 magnets (one for close, one to secure the back support, and other to hold the latch while you use it), overall i think its a great case for the tablet, would like a more "honeycomb" oriented keyboard like the acer official, but for most things this just works.
I use it with dexter's P1 Rom, cause i coudn't make it work with any other rom, no even P2, virtous or stock 3.01.
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wrocha said:
i own one of this, i like the case a lot, it looks stylish and it's very good for note taking, i also use a bluetooth mouse for easy access, the keyboard is made for windows (it has windows key) and havent found a way to bind the back action with any key, most keys works as intended, even the menu key (next to alt gr), but it seems tha honeycomb is not made to be used with just keyboard, you need to use the touch screen or a mouse. the case weigth a little bit less as tablet, has 3 magnets (one for close, one to secure the back support, and other to hold the latch while you use it), overall i think its a great case for the tablet, would like a more "honeycomb" oriented keyboard like the acer official, but for most things this just works.
I use it with dexter's P1 Rom, cause i coudn't make it work with any other rom, no even P2, virtous or stock 3.01.
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Thanks. I might try this one out. For $19 it is an inexpensive risk I think.
this is cheap as I am finding keyboards for $69.00. why so cheap that always makes me flinch like it is not to be believed.
what do you think...
just looks to dog gone cheap!
the only bad thing i see here, is that there is no protection for the screen, when you close the case, the screen is in contact with the keyboard. But the idea is good, transform the tab into something near the transformer from asus for 10 time cheaper ^^
can someone test it please
I have one on order. Should arrive this week sometime hopefully. Will report back on how it works with my Acer tablet
I've ordered one of these as well should do the job short term. Worth the money compared to what some of the other cases are charging. Now that 3.1 has been released hopefully we'll see a lot more bluetooth/keyboard case combinations for this tablet as it seems it 'wasn't completely compatible' with certain hardware prior to this update. Needless to say it worked fine with my wife's ipad 2 bluetooth case just unfortunate that i couldn't jam my iconia into one of them! I think if there's not a bluetooth keyboard/folio case combo available soon I'm going to buy a bunch of the bluetooth keyboards a bunch of the leather folio cases for the iconia and a big tube of superglue and start my own case company!!
well the keyboard case i orderd arrived this morning, so it was a quick flash back out of the Galaxy ROM so i can plug the usb in. Using it to type this up.
sorry no photos but those in the advert are about correct, the only one missing is the kick stand.
The Case Quality is adequate, but considering what it costs then i can not expet too much. Stiching is okay and reasonably tidy, get the feeling it will fray though if rubbed a bit hard. USB cable is more than adequate. There are no cutouts for Camera, speakers etc but then i dont need that when i am using it as an office tool.
Drain on the battery for the USB power is noticeable but then i suspect that is the same for most plugins. Not too much of the plastic smell so that was okay.
The case closure is held in place with a small magnet, just about strong enough for the job. The kick stand is also held flat to the case when not in use by a magnet which is a nice touch. The angle of the screen with the stand is fine for me
The keys themselves give just enough play, Typing is for me okay as i dont have the largest hands in the world but if you are wide fingered then it may a little tight.
the right hand Shift and Enter keys a little to close for me, i keep hitting the Enter key by mistake. Obviously the function keys etc have no purpose.
The real problem lies in the fitting of the Acer into the case - the lugs that are supposed to hold it are about 3-5mm too large so the acer is very loose. it wont fall out forward or to the sides but as there is no lug on the top, turn the case around without the clasp closed and it will definitely be on the floor. i am sure i can find a remedy for this that would allow me use the case with a greater feeling of security.
on the whole a useable case if the security can be sorted for those needing to spend some time at the keyboard, but probably not your long term day in - day out case. Mine will probably end up on my desk and i will slip the acer in when i wnat to use it and back to something else for mormal use.
Hope that helps
ps. typed this in a notes program as i find the browser is very laggy when trying totype directly in to it.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160610349685&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
GREAT FEEDBACK - thank you. I have the same one coming - should arrive next week.
For $19 - your review is very encouraging.
To use it for any normal activity you Need to figure out a way of not letting it slip out of the top. Some of the material you use on the dashboard of the car to stop your phone etc slipping might well do the trick . Probably easier and cleaner than some other methods I might try. But if it is a slip in and type , slip it out and walk away use, then it meets that criteria faily well.
Let me know your thoughts when you get it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1175316 is the thread for the one I received.
I've just ordered one off amazon. Will post pics when I get it
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I've just ordered one off amazon. Will post pics when I get it
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I think you will be really happy. I have been using mine constantly since it arrived. Makes using the tablet much easier and far quicker when typing. Really adds a lot to the overall unit as a whole.
Just received mine in the post. So far looks very nice but need to wait until I can get home so I can test it with my Iconia! Will post pics and thoughts later and a link to the product.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/20/lenovo-thinkpad-tablet-and-keyboard-folio-case-hands-on-video/
Looks like we have some competition now...
I must say that when I first heard of the thinkpad I thought it would be trash but reading this article definitely changed my mind.
I don't regret my purchase but if I didn't already have the TF there would be some definite consideration between these two tablets.
I honestly think what Asus did with the dockable keyboard and what Toshiba is now doing with there feature set are the biggest things to happen to android since the arrival of the G1 and then the OG Nexus.
Watch apple come out w/ the next ipad and charge a fortune for it because it has a "revolutionary dockable keyboard? Don't be in shock when it happens... I'm psychic.
I personally don't like any android tablet, honeycomb runs smooth but it just doesn't appeal as an OS. It looks outdated with that black bar and boring bottons at the bottom. I do like the designs, especially the S Tab 10.1! What I find awkward about this Lenovo tablet its the huge borders at the sides. Pure opinion!
The Lenovo keyboard doesnt actually dock with the display though does it? Also no extra battery in the keyboard so I dont see much similarity and definitely not as versatile as the TF
Mark.
the asus wins hands down on the keyboard dock. the lenovo dock just has those angled slots that all tablet keyboards have - which looks like the tablet would be kind of loose and prone to flap around a bit if you had it on your lap.
also looks a bit chunky and heavy, but if the hardware performs better than the asus, it might be worth a look at.
but what ever happened to the U1 android/windows hybrid that lenovo was supposed to be bringing out? that looked like a device worth getting.
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I personally don't like any android tablet, honeycomb runs smooth but it just doesn't appeal as an OS. It looks outdated with that black bar and boring bottons at the bottom. I do like the designs, especially the S Tab 10.1! What I find awkward about this Lenovo tablet its the huge borders at the sides. Pure opinion!
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Then why are you in a subforum dedicated to a Honeycomb device? Go suck on an iPad or something, you boring twat.
grainysand said:
Then why are you in a subforum dedicated to a Honeycomb device? Go suck on an iPad or something, you boring twat.
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Why do you assume I like the iPad? Are you a psychic now? I am giving my opinion, if you don't like it you can just ignore it! Stop trolling.
It looks nice to me. I bet they sell a lot. Lenovo is a standard in corporations, unlike Asus.
it does look nice
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I have had my TF for about 4 days now, and I am considering returning it to BestBuy so I can buy the Thinkpad. Here are my reasonings so maybe someone can set me straight ;-)
+ Enterprise Features from the Get Go - Cisco AnyConnect... I want to use my tablet for work when I am travelling and I get a call for an emergency. No other tablet that boasts the features of the Thinkpad has the Cisco client in the package. Yes I know I could root, but some corporations consider this a security violation and do not allow rooted devices on campus.
+ Netflix with ability to store movies locally. This isn't coming to the Asus device if the hardware parts are true and being able to store a movie and watch it on an airplane is compelling.
+ Standard Thinkpad-like Keyboard - Now this one is sort of a up and a down for the Lenovo, the Thinkpad keyboards are great, but their design is no where near as nice as the ASUS integration.
+ Standard looking power supply? - I still can't find anyone who mentions the power adapter, it looks from what I can see to be a fairly standard USB connector but for some stupid reason no one shows it. At least I can probably bet extra power cables for less than $40 a pop and they might actually be in stock.
+ Availability of a stylus that has been engineered to work with the Lenovo package (this one worries me if I decide to go with a custom ROM assuming root is achievable, will the stylus still work? )
- Keyboard dock doesn't appear to lend itself to laptop use, more toward desktop use, it looks flimsy in a way.
- No power in the dock to extend the useful time without a charger, although if it is a standard power port, I can charge on long plane flights without an inverter or some other craziness.
- Odd looking interface changes and not clear if you can go with a generic Honeycomb layout on your desk.
There are other pluses such as I may be able to get a discount through work and so on, but they aren't really generic. My big things really are the power cable that may be more than about 3' long and the enterprise package. But man do I love my TF and going to anything without as good of integration at the keyboard dock is just going to be so hard.
Right now I am leaning toward sticking with what I have rather than inviting problem, not to mention the Thinkpad does seem to have a fair amount of wasted space on the edges, not that the TF doesn't.
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. My big things really are the power cable that may be more than about 3' long and the enterprise package.
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You can get a USB3 extension cable for your TF for about $7 on Amazon. I use on my dock which is on top of my desk.
Enterprise support would be nice, but we have such as custom package we have trouble getting it to run on Windows 7 let alone Android.
The Lenovo keyboard is a minus for me. I have a T410 i5 and it's a great machine, but I use cut and past a lot and hate the position of the function key next to control!!!
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I have had my TF for about 4 days now, and I am considering returning it to BestBuy so I can buy the Thinkpad. Here are my reasonings so maybe someone can set me straight ;-)
+ Enterprise Features from the Get Go - Cisco AnyConnect... I want to use my tablet for work when I am travelling and I get a call for an emergency. No other tablet that boasts the features of the Thinkpad has the Cisco client in the package. Yes I know I could root, but some corporations consider this a security violation and do not allow rooted devices on campus.
+ Netflix with ability to store movies locally. This isn't coming to the Asus device if the hardware parts are true and being able to store a movie and watch it on an airplane is compelling.
+ Standard Thinkpad-like Keyboard - Now this one is sort of a up and a down for the Lenovo, the Thinkpad keyboards are great, but their design is no where near as nice as the ASUS integration.
+ Standard looking power supply? - I still can't find anyone who mentions the power adapter, it looks from what I can see to be a fairly standard USB connector but for some stupid reason no one shows it. At least I can probably bet extra power cables for less than $40 a pop and they might actually be in stock.
+ Availability of a stylus that has been engineered to work with the Lenovo package (this one worries me if I decide to go with a custom ROM assuming root is achievable, will the stylus still work? )
- Keyboard dock doesn't appear to lend itself to laptop use, more toward desktop use, it looks flimsy in a way.
- No power in the dock to extend the useful time without a charger, although if it is a standard power port, I can charge on long plane flights without an inverter or some other craziness.
- Odd looking interface changes and not clear if you can go with a generic Honeycomb layout on your desk.
There are other pluses such as I may be able to get a discount through work and so on, but they aren't really generic. My big things really are the power cable that may be more than about 3' long and the enterprise package. But man do I love my TF and going to anything without as good of integration at the keyboard dock is just going to be so hard.
Right now I am leaning toward sticking with what I have rather than inviting problem, not to mention the Thinkpad does seem to have a fair amount of wasted space on the edges, not that the TF doesn't.
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imo if you really want the stylus features (which seems pretty sweet) and the keyboard then you are better off with the thinkpad. People are saying the dock integration isn't as good on the thinkpad as it is on the TF, not sure where they are getting that from other than speculation. From what I can see, other than the keyboard being larger and thicker it seems to dock pretty much the same way as the TF.
For me though, I don't care much for the features on the Thinkpad and my TF has done everything I need it to do thus far.
starplaya93 said:
imo if you really want the stylus features (which seems pretty sweet) and the keyboard then you are better off with the thinkpad. People are saying the dock integration isn't as good on the thinkpad as it is on the TF, not sure where they are getting that from other than speculation. From what I can see, other than the keyboard being larger and thicker it seems to dock pretty much the same way as the TF.
For me though, I don't care much for the features on the Thinkpad and my TF has done everything I need it to do thus far.
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Well, actually, it doesn't seem to dock the same way at all. First, it's not as sturdy, i.e., the TF/dock combo is essentially the same as a single integrated device. The Lenovo docks into a piece that then can be moved within the case. That's a nice feature if you use it on a desk or other flat surface, but I can't see using the Lenovo solution, e.g., while in bed, perched on my blanket, the same way I can my TF. Second, there's no second battery in the Lenovo dock. Finally, if you like the typical trackpad, then you'd want the TF.
The Lenovo looks nice, don't get me wrong, and that N-trig active digitizer would be nice if you want to take handwritten notes. If I were in my previous sales engineer role where I took copious notes during many sales meetings a week, that would be a nice feature. Then again, if that were the case, I'd probably just keep using my Windows 7 Tablet PC, which has the best handwritten notes tool (OneNote) and recognition on the market.
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You should buy one or two
Wow looks like Netflix is working on the Tab 10.1 and Xoom.....No love for our TF????
wynand32 said:
Well, actually, it doesn't seem to dock the same way at all. First, it's not as sturdy, i.e., the TF/dock combo is essentially the same as a single integrated device. The Lenovo docks into a piece that then can be moved within the case. That's a nice feature if you use it on a desk or other flat surface, but I can't see using the Lenovo solution, e.g., while in bed, perched on my blanket, the same way I can my TF. Second, there's no second battery in the Lenovo dock. Finally, if you like the typical trackpad, then you'd want the TF.
The Lenovo looks nice, don't get me wrong, and that N-trig active digitizer would be nice if you want to take handwritten notes. If I were in my previous sales engineer role where I took copious notes during many sales meetings a week, that would be a nice feature. Then again, if that were the case, I'd probably just keep using my Windows 7 Tablet PC, which has the best handwritten notes tool (OneNote) and recognition on the market.
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I agree with you, it isn't the same, the Lenovo keyboard isn't a dock, you don't power through the keyboard, you just plug it into a USB keyboard that has some Android specific buttons added in. And it does look a little flimsy from a sitting in an odd position perspective. There is nothing holding it in that position other than what appears to be a few indentations on the keyboard panel.
As for the notes, I haven't run Windows in about 8 years, not planning to start now ;-). And since I am considering going back to graduate school here in the future, I like the concept of the hand written notes, but you know if I really do go back to school I will just add it as a school expense and buy a the current well designed unit with a stylus, I really am thinking I will stick to the Asus as I really do like the dock integration. But I still do hate the power cable and I know it is only one thing, but it is driving me to distraction as it is like the thing that has me almost tipping toward returning this for the Thinkpad.
Alexander243 said:
I personally don't like any android tablet, honeycomb runs smooth but it just doesn't appeal as an OS. It looks outdated with that black bar and boring bottons at the bottom. I do like the designs, especially the S Tab 10.1! What I find awkward about this Lenovo tablet its the huge borders at the sides. Pure opinion!
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Guess what sooner or later ios will copy it.
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It is pretty obvious that Lenovo is targeting this system as a business tool. For that market it looks very good.
I can imagine having this unit sitting in its it keyboard dock at my desk and grabbing it to go to a meeting. At the meeting I would take notes with the stylus and having my crummy handwriting converted to text on the fly. Then when I got back to my desk I could integrate my notes into other documents, emails, etc.
The same scenario would probably work for students going from their desks to classes and back.
Of course it won't be as entertaining as watching someone on an iPad try to take notes, but you can't have everything.:->
Every week there are several new posts asking" Should I get an XXXX tablet now or wait for the YYYY tablet. You can fill in the XXXX and YYYY with any brand you want as there has been and probably will be new names to insert for a while. Each new tablet seems to have something that the previous one lacked along with some issues ( both new and old). If you are looking at a tablet do some searching ( not asking) here on XDA and find one that you are happy with and buy it. After you get it use it, enjoy it and upgrade firmware as needed. WAY too many people are spending unnecessary time and money always seeking the greener grass on the other side of the fence. With PC sales sagging, every manufacturer is looking for something to replace their revenue. Today it is the tablet. What works for me may not work for you. Read the specs and research before you buy. I am amazed by how many people buy items only to find out that a key feature they need is not there even though the specs indicated it was missing.
I guess Lenovo designed this tablet for 2.x, judging by the hardware buttons. It's a nice looking tablet, and the folio case is cool, but the buttons scream "last minute HC decision."
dazz87 said:
Wow looks like Netflix is working on the Tab 10.1 and Xoom.....No love for our TF????
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There is a Netflix patch for the transformer. Check out the thread in the development forum. It works great!
Was looking around for a good keyboard + stand combo for the 10.1, something like the official one sold by samsung but cheaper.
Sorta new here just got my tablet 1 1/2 months ago, so just wanted to know if u guys have any suggestions
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sgaheer said:
Was looking around for a good keyboard + stand combo for the 10.1, something like the official one sold by samsung but cheaper.
Sorta new here just got my tablet 1 1/2 months ago, so just wanted to know if u guys have any suggestions
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Personally, I like using the stock cover set at the "typing" angle and using the SwiftKey tablet keyboard. It eliminates the typing of the 3 and 8 on accident, like pon the stock keyboard.
Otherwise, I would just go for a blue tooth keyboard.
This was the nicest one I saw., and almost bought it.
http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/en-us/p/wedge-mobile-keyboard
I bought the Zagg Flex BT keyboard, which is still on sale for 50% off. It has a standard key layout and is very comfotable to type on. It has a case to protect it when not in use that can be used as a stand for your tablet. I did a brief review in accessories, which discusses Android function keys and has a photo. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2162886 Here's a link to the sale page, which has more info and a short video . http://www.zagg.com/accessories/zaggkeys-flex-tablet-keyboard-stand
I have the Microsoft Wedge Bluetooth keyboard, the cover is a nice hard but oddly flexible rubber like plastic that fills and supports the Note in both landscape and portrait mode. The keyboard is well built with a high quality finish and despite the keys sitting so close to each other that they actually touch it's surprisingly easy to write on. My only complaint is that when the tablet had been turned off for a while the connection is lost and sometimes I've had to reboot to reestablish a connection.
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I bought the Zagg Flex BT keyboard, which is still on sale for 50% off. It has a standard key layout and is very comfotable to type on. It has a case to protect it when not in use that can be used as a stand for your tablet. I did a brief review in accessories, which discusses Android function keys and has a photo. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2162886 Here's a link to the sale page, which has more info and a short video . http://www.zagg.com/accessories/zaggkeys-flex-tablet-keyboard-stand
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Just missed out on the deal, damn
the keyboard looked promising.
Thanks for the suggestion but $80 is a bit steep for me now