Has this been fixed with firmware updates or now that custom roms are able to be loaded?
Or is the screen just that terrible?
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I've heard this complain before but I don't seem to have this issue.. or perhaps I'm color blind or something lol.
I do intend to not have much yellow more so red and black on my screen than anything..
Is it really THAT MUCH of a nuisance?
it is really annoying, and unfortunately i'm pretty sure it's hardware-based due to the PenTile display. there are plenty of previous discussions on this so please search back and read up on it there.
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Has this been fixed with firmware updates or now that custom roms are able to be loaded?
Or is the screen just that terrible?
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It's not terrible for me. It's just the way our screen is.
Our screen was built for -> battery saving, that's why color reproduction has problems.
And for me the choice paid off, I am getting the best battery life than with any android smartphone.
If color reproduction was more important to you, you shouldn't have bought an Atrix.
Supposedly pentile screens also have advantages with sunlight visibility.My wife has an HTC Desire S, and it is literally unviewable in the Sun and yet mine remained completely usable and clear. She was not impressed and I was left gloating
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it is really annoying, and unfortunately i'm pretty sure it's hardware-based due to the PenTile display. there are plenty of previous discussions on this so please search back and read up on it there.
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Im well aware of the problem and there is no need for me to do a search. This is why I'm asking if the problem has been addressed. Doing a search will only net me what I already know as no one talks about this issue anymore.
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It's not terrible for me. It's just the way our screen is.
Our screen was built for -> battery saving, that's why color reproduction has problems.
And for me the choice paid off, I am getting the best battery life than with any android smartphone.
If color reproduction was more important to you, you shouldn't have bought an Atrix.
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You're getting the best battery life of any android phone because you have the biggest battery of any android phone LOL
And there is no reason in the world why inaccurate color reproduction would EVER result in better battery life. Unless of course you're talking about switching a screen to black and white.
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You're getting the best battery life of any android phone because you have the biggest battery of any android phone LOL
And there is no reason in the world why inaccurate color reproduction would EVER result in better battery life. Unless of course you're talking about switching a screen to black and white.
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He was saying that the screen technology on the ATRIX gave it better battery life. Not the color errors. Clearly.
I haven't noticed any colour reproduction errors.
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He was saying that the screen technology on the ATRIX gave it better battery life. Not the color errors. Clearly.
I haven't noticed any colour reproduction errors.
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Its too bad some color panel hidden behind the scenes couldn't be accessed to correct the color. It would have been a top contender for some time to come. Love how big the battery is.
Have they ported cm7 to it yet? Are they still doing the 2nd init hack or has the bootloader been unlocked?
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Im well aware of the problem and there is no need for me to do a search. This is why I'm asking if the problem has been addressed. Doing a search will only net me what I already know as no one talks about this issue anymore.
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wasn't trying to upset you.
but if we're on that wave, if you're well aware of the problem and searching only netted you no new answers, what did you expect asking would do? net you more non-new answers.
The Atrix screen indeed makes everything a little "bluer" (are your yellows slightly green?).
I read that in CM7 you can alter the color scheme a little bit, or there's an app that can also do this...I'd have to search a little bit to find what I'm talking about, but I'll post a link in just a sec.
Edit: this is what I was thinking of...Might not be exactly what you're looking for, as it requires you to have CM7 it looks like (not that that's a bad thing, but of course it's still in pre-beta and you might not want to use it). It's a start though, and gives you a little more info.
It's an unfixable hardware "problem".
It not a huge deal (can't really tell a huge difference)
Who cares.
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Its too bad some color panel hidden behind the scenes couldn't be accessed to correct the color. It would have been a top contender for some time to come. Love how big the battery is.
Have they ported cm7 to it yet? Are they still doing the 2nd init hack or has the bootloader been unlocked?
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No need for 2nd init...
Bootloader has been unlocked for a couple of months now.
CM7 is in early beta stages right now.
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wasn't trying to upset you.
but if we're on that wave, if you're well aware of the problem and searching only netted you no new answers, what did you expect asking would do? net you more non-new answers.
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You're wasting mine and everyone else's time.
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Monochrome ftw.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
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The Atrix screen indeed makes everything a little "bluer" (are your yellows slightly green?).
I read that in CM7 you can alter the color scheme a little bit, or there's an app that can also do this...I'd have to search a little bit to find what I'm talking about, but I'll post a link in just a sec.
Edit: this is what I was thinking of...Might not be exactly what you're looking for, as it requires you to have CM7 it looks like (not that that's a bad thing, but of course it's still in pre-beta and you might not want to use it). It's a start though, and gives you a little more info.
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This is excellent information and essentially a fix to the problem. I may pick up an Atrix for this very post right here!!! Thank you for the info!!!!
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BravoMotorola said:
It's an unfixable hardware "problem".
It not a huge deal (can't really tell a huge difference)
Who cares.
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Read the post above yours lol
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This is excellent information and essentially a fix to the problem. I may pick up an Atrix for this very post right here!!! Thank you for the info!!!!
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Lol sure thing. Just remember that, from what I can gather, it requires you to use the CM7 ROM (which in turn requires unlocked bootloader, etc. etc.) so make sure to look into all that first!
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Lol sure thing. Just remember that, from what I can gather, it requires you to use the CM7 ROM (which in turn requires unlocked bootloader, etc. etc.) so make sure to look into all that first!
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The only thing I use is cm7 so not to worry
I just need to ask around about a couple of other things about the Atrix before I decide to buy one again.
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The atrix is the bomb diggity yo.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
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Coming from HTC Inspire btw.
Size-Build is awesome imo, perfect screen size, nice and lightweight and does not feel cheap imo.
Yea its superamoled but wtf at the yellowish tint....why did they do this?? My Captivate looked better and this is one of the main selling points for me, is there anything we can do to get it back to the other color temperature? Seriously....
Tried the camera a bit, not impressive at all, neither was the inspire so eh whatever.
Everything is FAST! I love it!
Stock Android!!! Woooh! No Blocking of Apps! Woooh!
Wifi seems a bit slow, it started doing a restore off the bat and downloading all my apps from the inspire and even the background! wow! Really cool feature that I had no Idea about, but some apps installed and then I kept getting a bunch of errors saying "insufficient memory" I guess I gotta do them one by one...
Thats pretty much it, Im satisfied but the screen tint is kinda leaving a bad taste in my mouth, the SuperLCD seemed more sharp and brighter then this and the whites were WHITE and the blacks werent too shabby either, dunno wtf is going on as the Screen on my old captivate was great and I loved it, this is eh...
Really hoping I didnt make the wrong choice here, the Xperia arc I had my eyes on and the only thing it didnt have was a FFC and I can live without it, beyond that I like the looks, bigger screen, lighter weight, on the arc better and sony unlocked the bootloader on their new devices so updates will come regardless, way better camera, I just dont know about this whole screen thing....
i just got mine today, so thought i'd chime in too.
build quality: not cheap imo, the ergonomics dept should pat themselves on the back. feels just right
doesn't feel laggy
sensors problem. compass seems a bit off, and the best gps lock i've had is 10m error after about 60s. i stood outside and waited, no lock. resorted to downloading gps status and downloaded the additional gps data. this seems to be the only way it's locked on. compared to a desire, this is hella slow and crappy for gps.
camera quality, i think for a phone it's good enough. for the ffc, so it's vga, but at what resolution does skype mobile use? what's that? it's not working? oh well. i think vga is fine for video calls. anything else is just additional cost.
about to test with music and haven't put a sim in yet to test the phone.
i bought it for development, so i'm now going to start messing about with it, but the phone feels nice and zippy, but disappointed with the sensors (will be testing outside tomorrow) as i'm looking to do a lot of augmented reality dev.
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i just got mine today, so thought i'd chime in too.
build quality: not cheap imo, the ergonomics dept should pat themselves on the back. feels just right
doesn't feel laggy
sensors problem. compass seems a bit off, and the best gps lock i've had is 10m error after about 60s. i stood outside and waited, no lock. resorted to downloading gps status and downloaded the additional gps data. this seems to be the only way it's locked on. compared to a desire, this is hella slow and crappy for gps.
camera quality, i think for a phone it's good enough. for the ffc, so it's vga, but at what resolution does skype mobile use? what's that? it's not working? oh well. i think vga is fine for video calls. anything else is just additional cost.
about to test with music and haven't put a sim in yet to test the phone.
i bought it for development, so i'm now going to start messing about with it, but the phone feels nice and zippy, but disappointed with the sensors (will be testing outside tomorrow) as i'm looking to do a lot of augmented reality dev.
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if you're going to test sound, i highly recommend using netarchy's kernel (unsure if it works on a I9020A).. but basically put Voodoo Sound, it'll be highly worth it without question
thanks, but i'm going to keep this stock.
You can change the bad color by using voodoo control app on the market and finding a kernel that supports it.
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thanks, but i'm going to keep this stock.
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if you're keeping it stock... why did you say
i bought it for development, so i'm now going to start messing about with it, but the phone feels nice and zippy, but disappointed with the sensors (will be testing outside tomorrow) as i'm looking to do a lot of augmented reality dev.
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aren't you simply contradicting yourself?
j0hnZ said:
You can change the bad color by using voodoo control app on the market and finding a kernel that supports it.
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Not sure what you mean by "kernal that supports it" Can anyone help me out with this? Whole reason I got a NS is so that I didnt have to mod/root etc lol
But I dunno if I can live with this yellow tint, I NEED to change it!
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if you're keeping it stock... why did you say
aren't you simply contradicting yourself?
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You can do plenty of app development on a stock rom. Not all development is rom/kernel based
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You can do plenty of app development on a stock rom. Not all development is rom/kernel based
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Yep, thank you. "Development" only means ROM development here. in the big-wide-world it means apps!
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Yep, thank you. "Development" only means ROM development here. in the big-wide-world it means apps!
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well, you didn't specify. and yes, development on XDA is defaulted towards ROM development and not apps.
bah. it doesn't matter, let's play nice.
want a game of horseshoe? HORSESHOE!
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bah. it doesn't matter, let's play nice.
want a game of horseshoe? HORSESHOE!
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What about a yellow tint? You have it? Its seriously bugging me out...
crap, sorry about the thanks there
no, i don't have a tint at all - i have a 9020. and no tint. i manually upgraded to 2.3.2 - too scared to update to 2.3.3 yet. i don't have a sim in it, so the ota wasn't registering.
in terms of sound quality, it blows away my ipod touch 1st gen, but then again most of my older cheaper mp3 players do so that in itself isn't saying much! the dynamic range sounds a lot better on this than what was on the desire too.
but still haven't taken the stickers on the phone off yet. need a case!
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Yep, thank you. "Development" only means ROM development here. in the big-wide-world it means apps!
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Lol lmo in your world maybe.
In the one that I live in and the rest of the world DEVELOPMENT means rom development or something else or different to improve the phone or make it looks nicer maybe a theme
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crap, sorry about the thanks there
no, i don't have a tint at all - i have a 9020. and no tint. i manually upgraded to 2.3.2 - too scared to update to 2.3.3 yet. i don't have a sim in it, so the ota wasn't registering.
in terms of sound quality, it blows away my ipod touch 1st gen, but then again most of my older cheaper mp3 players do so that in itself isn't saying much! the dynamic range sounds a lot better on this than what was on the desire too.
but still haven't taken the stickers on the phone off yet. need a case!
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You'd be even more amazed at sound with voodoo.
Seriously, you're missing out. But if u don't want to mod it then that's fine.
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doniqcc said:
Lol lmo in your world maybe.
In the one that I live in and the rest of the world DEVELOPMENT means rom development or something else or different to improve the phone or make it looks nicer maybe a theme
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putting glow-in-the-dark stickers on it will make it look nice... ohh i see... i didn't know that's development! thanks!
development means programming. fullstop. period. back to the scheduled show!
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putting glow-in-the-dark stickers on it will make it look nice... ohh i see... i didn't know that's development! thanks!
development means programming. fullstop. period. back to the scheduled show!
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Not in xda development but you can do it in android market place but you'll learn eventually it's ok. I can't wait to see what app you'll work on. wait I know something about teaching other people how to develop a rom without rooting your phone nice yeeeeah
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voodoo sound and color changed my life.
Try the settings in the apps and themes section of this forum.
aaronpaws said:
voodoo sound and color changed my life.
Try the settings in the apps and themes section of this forum.
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I wish I could do it without a root, I just cant seem to do the damn root, Im stuck on the drivers part....
i'm looking through the samsung.git (the kernel source) in the android source, and came across some very interesting commits from Arve Hjønnevåg on this page
http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=kernel/samsung.git;a=shortlog;pg=1
click on the commit link for the details
they point out that the colours were actually wrong, and have now been reset. so, actually, all's good - so stop whining!
personally, i prefer the new colours!
looking through the commit logs is actually really interesting. a really annoying bug in googles where, if you pressed flash, it would turn itself off was fixed here: http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=ke...it;h=65799b8cfd15cb61201a0492d8d7799136c4d440
and the explanation is informative too!
What was the point of "fixing" the colors? It's not a bug.
The colors may have been "wrong" before 2.3.3 but that's how I saw it in the store and that's what it looked like when I bought it. If I saw it at the store with the 2.3.3 colors there's a good chance I would have purchased a different phone.
I prefer the "fixed" colors as well. I mean, would you buy a TV or monitor with inaccurate color representation?
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I prefer the "fixed" colors as well. I mean, would you buy a TV or monitor with inaccurate color representation?
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Maybe, if I liked the way it looked. That's my whole point, I liked the way it looked when I bought it, and that's what I paid for. Bait and switch.
Colors were **** since 2.3.3 dont care what they say I have my own 2 eyes and lol that this "problem" was noticed so late into android
They should at least give the option to change them back threw the settings
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I prefer the "fixed" colors as well. I mean, would you buy a TV or monitor with inaccurate color representation?
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I sure as hell wouldn't want to buy a TV with fixed colors and settings
If you want to get technical most mainstream LCD TV and PC monitors are TN panel and they produce inaccurate colors anyways no matter what settings oyu put them on compared to lets say an IPS which have much more accurate natural colors
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Lol colors are **** since 2.3.3 and OP its colors not colours
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Colours = Canadian / British
Colors = American
thanks learn something new everyday
SORRY MarkusPO
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Colours = Canadian / British
Colors = American
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Countries separated by a common language ;D
Gotta love it.
svanheulen said:
What was the point of "fixing" the colors? It's not a bug...The colors may have been "wrong" before 2.3.3.
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things that are generally 'wrong' in software are bugs. your logic is wrong. let's face it, we didn't buy the phone for pretty colours.
and it's not a bug in android, it was a bug in the samsung crespo (nexus s) firmware that's been fixed. only users of the nexus s will see the colour changes. the samsung.git is the boot kernel code.
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Countries separated by a common language ;D
Gotta love it.
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well...calling english a language with its lack of grammar is stretching it a bit too far! most of europe throughout time has looked upon english as being a language for idiots! and besides, american is a subset of english
So are the colors now similar to the Epic or "washed out" as a couple of people have noticed.
I am going to store today to consider change from Epic. I love my phone, dont care as much about GB since it is rooted and rommed to 1.3, however
what I want is the size.
Just not sure about using my upgrade just for size since I know there will be newer, flashier things out, which I also don't know that I really need . .
Such a nice choice to have . .
Any other pros/cons
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If I saw it at the store with the 2.3.3 colors there's a good chance I would have purchased a different phone.
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Really? You base your phone purchasing decision on what the colours look like? No regard for hardware, software, capabilities? Wow. Just wow.
nmoreman said:
So are the colors now similar to the Epic or "washed out" as a couple of people have noticed.
I am going to store today to consider change from Epic. I love my phone, dont care as much about GB since it is rooted and rommed to 1.3, however
what I want is the size.
Just not sure about using my upgrade just for size since I know there will be newer, flashier things out, which I also don't know that I really need . .
Such a nice choice to have . .
Any other pros/cons
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The argument just stems from the fact that the original colours on the Nexus S were over-saturated and were not 'correct' by any definition of valid colour space. Those that accept that there is a 'correct' colour space are generally happy with the change, and so don't consider the colours washed out.
Those that prefer the incorrect colours and over-saturation consider the colours to now be washed out.
As for pros and cons of the Nexus S, check out the many other threads giving detailed reviews or 'compare and contrast' opinion pieces.
For me the biggest seller to getting a Nexus S was the fact that updates come straight from Google (previously was on Milestone and Motorola are crap at providing timely updates), closely followed by the speed and responsiveness of the phone in general.
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Really? You base your phone purchasing decision on what the colours look like? No regard for hardware, software, capabilities? Wow. Just wow.
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lol what do you think most people do before they buy a TV
you look the your screen 99% of the time you use the phone it plays a huge part in hardware decision for allot even its its colors
like someone said earlier its called bait and switch
and whats worst with this is that they are fixed with the exception of kernel with voodoo
Also i never seen once person complain before about the colors Google used prior to the update
BUT now that this "problem" was fixed i see tons of people complaining including me and then other just lay back and except it becasue Google said it was a good choice
also try owning a phone prior to this with OLED like i did with my nexus one and vibrant...even WP7 has accurate colors for and OLED panel.
Google is just made a stupid decision.
FYI im huge into hardware ill bet im one of the top enthusiast when it comes to this stuff ...mainly PC hardware
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lol what do you think most people do before they buy a TV
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apples and oranges.
still, google and samsung even give you the complete source code for your phone, so, you can:
a) continue to whine and have it fall on deaf ears.
b) buckle up and modify the source code to your heart's content and hell, maybe even fix other problems.
c) use an existing solution.
whatever you choose, no one really cares, you're either happy, or if not, make the change.
so, start today.
make the change
'cause i'm standing with the... uh... oh.
not apples and oranges since they are FIXED on the nexus S
MarkusPO what model phone are you using?
If you're using SLCD you have no say in this..well at least my rant im talking about OLED like i said numerous times
color change impacts both screen types differently
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thanks learn something new everyday
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lmfao...
10 char
I know on Cyanogenmod for the Evo it had an option to change the colors on the screen... does the Nexus S version have that as well?
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I didn't say that at all. There are plenty of other Android phones with similar capabilities and the screen was one of the factors.
They can say whatever they want my screen is now yellow ,I've even asked ppl at work who's never even looked at my phone before, what color is the white,and everyone says a tanish yellow color....smh
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Raver27 said:
what color is the white,and everyone says a tanish yellow color....smh
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exactly white is not white and this also impacts the contrast and that ultimately impacts the colors...they did this to conserve battery not that it look better
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lmfao...
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im sure you're far from perfect ...
im sure i can go threw your post history i can dig something up
Why do I see so less threads about the color banding issue.. ? Why don't people worry that much about this? Will this get fixed because it's VERY VERY annoying. I payed €500 for a phone that is not even running on a 24bit and I'm alrdy on my 2nd SGSII ... Thinking of waiting for the Nexus Prime ...
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Why do I see so less threads about the color banding issue.. ? Why don't people worry that much about this? Will this get fixed because it's VERY VERY annoying. I payed €500 for a phone that is not even running on a 24bit and I'm alrdy on my 2nd SGSII ... Thinking of waiting for the Nexus Prime ...
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I think you answered your own question. That and the low post count in the original thread.
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Now that my battery life is incredibly awesome thanks to kg2/3, I really don't have anything to complain about.
The positives of this phone greatly out weigh the negatives which is only one thing I can think of.. Some of my wallpapers look ugly because of the banding.
I think I can live with that.
Its a minor issue and only noticed with some loading screens like angrgbirds and xda app and certain photos.
I just love how people turn a decent post into a threat like the nexus prime.
L a little research would have told you the nexus s had same issue and later fixed.
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If you don't look for banding or yellow tint, you'll never notice them. Recommend for new users to not look for these issues
Nexus s had the issue fixed because of outcry. Meek sheep in here advise to fix the problem is to ignore it. Not cool at all.
And its not a minor issue. For those of us with eyes it is glaring. And don't tell me that with dual core at 1.2 and 24 bit the things will grind to a halt. I don't buy it.
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Idan73 said:
Nexus s had the issue fixed because of outcry. Meek sheep in here advise to fix the problem is to ignore it. Not cool at all.
And its not a minor issue. For those of us with eyes it is glaring. And don't tell me that with dual core at 1.2 and 24 bit the things will grind to a halt. I don't buy it.
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The haters thread is over here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075364
It's on page 18 which should tell you something.
What "banding" issue? Mine is fine.... I guess if I "look" for issues I will find them. Then again the positives far outweigh the negatives. A little gradient here and there is no matter. Some people are their own worst nightmare with their "anality" Probably have their devices wrapped in armor lest a little nick or scratch appear during normal use .......How do they sleep at night?
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The haters thread is over here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075364
It's on page 18 which should tell you something.
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Lol I'm not a hater. I love everyone and everything except for things I dislike.
Notice I am not the one threatening to leave... until I do for something else.
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I really want to know where the majority of your banding you see.
Besides xda loading screen and angry birds I don't see it often enough to cry about. I've taken 500+ pictures and have viewed 100s of webpages and I don't see it being a major issue.
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Nexus s had the issue fixed because of outcry. Meek sheep in here advise to fix the problem is to ignore it. Not cool at all.
And its not a minor issue. For those of us with eyes it is glaring. And don't tell me that with dual core at 1.2 and 24 bit the things will grind to a halt. I don't buy it.
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Lol I'm not a hater. I love everyone and everything except for things I dislike.
Notice I am not the one threatening to leave... until I do for something else.
Also note I never mentioned the price I paid cause I think it's just childish. But to say don't cause waves.... pretend its fine... fake it till you make it... the hell....
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Secret wallpaper both versions, nexus s wallpaper, most penguin games, ubuntu wallpaper, pretty much anything that uses gradient.
If you're primarily browsing of course you wont see it cause its white page with black letter's.
And come on original sgs does not have this issue, nexus s had it but it was fixed. What is wrong in expecting it to be fixed on this phone or not have it in the first place.
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Time to return this poor baby ..
Color banding? Don't have it.
Colors are incredible on my SGS2 and shades flow very smoothly. Best screen I've ever had.
yeah I've used a number of roms on my phone and haven't noticed any banding... I'm wondering if this is a hardware specific thing?
The default background image on the Go Launcher exhibits significant banding. The issue goes away when using CM7, currently this isn't a solution as CM7 is severely functionality-impaired at the moment.
A fix would be appreciated, it's a minor irritation though. Seems a bit silly to have such a powerful device with such a great screen and then run it at a lower bit-depth.
DarkDvr said:
Color banding? Don't have it.
Colors are incredible on my SGS2 and shades flow very smoothly. Best screen I've ever had.
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Go install Nenamark from the market and run the benchmark. You will see banding in the evening sky scene as the benchmark runs.
I don't think people are disputing the problem's there. The question was "are you OK with it?"
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I don't think people are disputing the problem's there. The question was "are you OK with it?"
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Yeah, because the problem IS there, anyone saying "I don't have it" or "it doesn't exists" is either ignorant or lying, because it's a FACT the problem(or whatever you want to call it) exists. The purpose of this topic is rather to ask to people how they live with it/what they think of it.
My 2 cents is that it's quite annoying. Now I see it, I notice it everywhere, games, apps, wallpapers. We'll see how the Tegra-version of the Galaxy S2 with SLCD screen will manage color gradients - if banding still occurs, we can be quite sure it's software-related, if not, there's more chance for it to be hardware-related(though not sure).
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Yeah, because the problem IS there, anyone saying "I don't have it" or "it doesn't exists" is either ignorant or lying, because it's a FACT the problem(or whatever you want to call it) exists. The purpose of this topic is rather to ask to people how they live with it/what they think of it.
My 2 cents is that it's quite annoying. Now I see it, I notice it everywhere, games, apps, wallpapers. We'll see how the Tegra-version of the Galaxy S2 with SLCD screen will manage color gradients - if banding still occurs, we can be quite sure it's software-related, if not, there's more chance for it to be hardware-related(though not sure).
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There's already a long thread on it that dropped to page 18. Is there really a reason to create another thread on it when it's obvious this bothers some people more than others?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075364
Isn't anyone else worried about how blue ICS is and about AMOLED burn in?
Meh, that's what themes are for. Plus as big a video guy as I am, (I'm a video engineer), the "lowered output over time" that many incorrectly call burn in, isn't enough to bother me.yes I can see it looking for it but again, amoled is just too friggen awesome to care. My epic still looked very good after a year of heavy, high brightness use. Also lowering brightness will slow this down but I say (w an extra battery) crank it and enjoy the expensive device you paid for!
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What should we worry about more exactly?
TheSaw said:
What should we worry about more exactly?
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ICS will have a blue status bar. The blue leds loose their brightness quicker than the red and green thus the bar being blue you get burn in effect although its not burnin but inproper degradation of the leds.
I'll probably have an S3 by then!
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I'll probably have an S3 by then!
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+1 Or even an S4 by the time it starts looking bad enough to even care.
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I certainly wouldn't say i'm 'worried' by it ...
I'm worried if it it won't have a good battery life not about a blue bar or other things. I'm sure everything else will work fine.
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...crank it and enjoy the expensive device you paid for!
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My thoughts exactly. I bought this phone for the processing power and the awesome screen. Turning the screen down because of something that might happen over time would be a shame.
seriously am i the only one who thinks that the forum is getting filled with pointless threads
I didn't get it, What is the problem of using blue bar? it looks awesome.
aatkco said:
I didn't get it, What is the problem of using blue bar? it looks awesome.
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Read again
Matriak31 said:
seriously am i the only one who thinks that the forum is getting filled with pointless threads
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No, you are not the only one, but be careful how you speak as many are very sensitive
achillies400 said:
No, you are not the only one, but be careful how you speak as many are very sensitive
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Yeah you are right..Forgot how sensitive some people on here are...Next time i will sugar coat them..
AFAIK Amoled degradation is non linear (like plasma) the first hunders hours it will degrade fast and then it will stabilize and even the blue leds (which has the shortest lifespan) will outlast the usefull life of your mobile easily (at least 4 years with 6 hours screen time a day)
IF color balance gets skewed by wearing out blue more than the other colors you can always readjust the balance, for example with chainFire's app
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Matriak31 said:
seriously am i the only one who thinks that the forum is getting filled with pointless threads
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This isn't a pointless thread. It's actually useful. People do worry about the screen burns
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Actually I hate the black status, menus, etc. Why don't they use light colors?, I don't know. I much prefer the old android status bar color. At least the degradation was not that visible when using fullscreen apps. (I do browse a lot, and a large procent of pages have white background. Also most apps have white background).
I really do not understand Google why it doesn't give to the user a build-in simple color scheme editor, so you can easily change the system colors (such as statusbar, menu). Like it was on WM. You could change the status bar color via registry, no mess with pack/unpack/resign of framework blablabla. Oh my..
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This isn't a pointless thread. It's actually useful. People do worry about the screen burns
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and i do worry about mine as well but i am sure if the lovely chap who opened this thread actually took the time to search and try and find answers to his questions we would not be having this conversation now..even if he could not find anything on xda(which highly doubtful) then google is his saviour...
But anyway hope he finds his answers now and he stops worrying. after all we are a community to help each other...
Wow
Yeah, so, if your screen-on time can burn out the screen, before ambient humidity burns out the mainboard... you need to put your phone down before you get cancer LOL
Seriously, the half life of the pixels in AMOLED is a mean average 14,000 hours...
One year, seven months... that would be at FULL brightness, with the screen ON for the entire duration to hit the half life...
And you're WORRIED?! LMMFAO
Use your phone, love it, and stop worrying, you'll have a new phone before you notice pixel death.
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AFAIK Amoled degradation is non linear (like plasma) the first hunders hours it will degrade fast and then it will stabilize and even the blue leds (which has the shortest lifespan) will outlast the usefull life of your mobile easily (at least 4 years with 6 hours screen time a day)
IF color balance gets skewed by wearing out blue more than the other colors you can always readjust the balance, for example with chainFire's app
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Could some body send me a link to chainFire's app
So today I flashed CM9 Beta 1, and I noticed the screen was different. The colors were fine, but the text was fuzzy and the icons were blurry. I didn't realize that this was because they disabled Samsung's mdnie coloring, which in my opinion, made the text look a lot better. So who hopes for Beta 2 that they re-enable the old colors because it looks awful now! I know this sounds immature, but I've seen so many complaints and I have to agree.
Where is the poll?
Also, please include an option for "indifferent".
My ol' eyes cant tell one from the other...
edit: Ha! Guess I was just to fast, and thanks for the I dont care option!
It looks good too me.. I won't vote yet, I may need to flash back to double check but I am pleased so far..
celsius0010 said:
It looks good too me.. I won't vote yet, I may need to flash back to double check but I am pleased so far..
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I just compared. The text is MUCH better in CM9 beta0. Honestly.
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I just compared. The text is MUCH better in CM9 beta0. Honestly.
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Got a place I can check that I could tell better than others?
My eyes ain't what they used to be, and I would like to see if I can tell, where it is supposed to be most obvious.
Still, I would rather an option to switch it on/off over stuck with one or the other, if possible.
When it comes to Android, I always tend to go with the "more options" path
God I agree with this. Please change it back. I'm getting more use to it but it does not really look all that better, and has more negatives than positives.
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I can live with it. It is certainly not a deal breaker for me, as I can tell the difference from beta0.
It doesn't look any different to me...I guess that means I don't give a crap. More free RAM sounds good to me.
Anyone have some screenies to show us the difference?
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It doesn't look any different to me...I guess that means I don't give a crap. More free RAM sounds good to me.
Any have some screenies to show us the difference?
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Screenies won't help. It mods the display. Camera photos will work. I notice a smoother fade on the settings app and keyboard.
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Screenies won't help. It mods the display. Camera photos will work. I notice a smoother fade on the settings app and keyboard.
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I definitely notice its smoother in the settings app and i like that. However i wish the text would still render i bit better and i hope that they re-enable mdnie in beta2, or at least find a way to improve the text while keeping the smoothness in some other areas. Idk. Back to beta0 for me.
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It doesn't look any different to me...I guess that means I don't give a crap. More free RAM sounds good to me.
Anyone have some screenies to show us the difference?
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I retracted my statement about the RAM as this doesn't actually free up any RAM. That was something else they modified.
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I just compared. The text is MUCH better in CM9 beta0. Honestly.
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I totally agree. My eyes hurt for a minute trying to focus.
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Someone should post side by side screen shots for the poll.
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Someone should post side by side screen shots for the poll.
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You cant because the camera wont recognize it any differently. Without any bias, id say you just have to try them out yourself.
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The colors on my screen look more natural, but I don't notice any difference in text. I switched the kernel several times. I guess everyone's phone is affected differently.
Maybe it's something more complicated like differently manufactured screens or something (just taking a shot in the dark).
Some areas are better than others. I see it with black text on gray. There is a difference. Small, but you get the colors right you'll see it. Smaller the font the better it gets too.
I vote back or options.
I've been using voodoo color and then I updated to beta 1 and the white color is way off it looks like to me but it could just be not use to using my phone without voodoo
Epic 4g, CM9 Beta, EL30, Shadow
this was most likely removed due to the fact that CM roms use nothing from the OEM. If the is an OEM setting it will never be added to CM roms.
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this was most likely removed due to the fact that CM roms use nothing from the OEM. If the is an OEM setting it will never be added to CM roms.
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No, this was removed because the devs on "our" end were experimenting with it. They even claimed they were unsure what it did, but that Noobnl said it looked better without it. Read the blog there's more info there. They are also letting people test a temp boot kernel with it re-enabled so they can decide before the next release whether to re-enable it or not. I just with in the meantime that they would release a perm flashable of the alternate kernel isntead of just the temp bootable.
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No, this was removed because the devs on "our" end were experimenting with it. They even claimed they were unsure what it did, but that Noobnl said it looked better without it. Read the blog there's more info there. They are also letting people test a temp boot kernel with it re-enabled so they can decide before the next release whether to re-enable it or not. I just with in the meantime that they would release a perm flashable of the alternate kernel isntead of just the temp bootable.
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Really? I'll have to check with the CM team as they make it a point to never add any OEM features or settings. If its not part of the AOSP coding or CM coding then normally it is not added to Official from versions