Coming from HTC Inspire btw.
Size-Build is awesome imo, perfect screen size, nice and lightweight and does not feel cheap imo.
Yea its superamoled but wtf at the yellowish tint....why did they do this?? My Captivate looked better and this is one of the main selling points for me, is there anything we can do to get it back to the other color temperature? Seriously....
Tried the camera a bit, not impressive at all, neither was the inspire so eh whatever.
Everything is FAST! I love it!
Stock Android!!! Woooh! No Blocking of Apps! Woooh!
Wifi seems a bit slow, it started doing a restore off the bat and downloading all my apps from the inspire and even the background! wow! Really cool feature that I had no Idea about, but some apps installed and then I kept getting a bunch of errors saying "insufficient memory" I guess I gotta do them one by one...
Thats pretty much it, Im satisfied but the screen tint is kinda leaving a bad taste in my mouth, the SuperLCD seemed more sharp and brighter then this and the whites were WHITE and the blacks werent too shabby either, dunno wtf is going on as the Screen on my old captivate was great and I loved it, this is eh...
Really hoping I didnt make the wrong choice here, the Xperia arc I had my eyes on and the only thing it didnt have was a FFC and I can live without it, beyond that I like the looks, bigger screen, lighter weight, on the arc better and sony unlocked the bootloader on their new devices so updates will come regardless, way better camera, I just dont know about this whole screen thing....
i just got mine today, so thought i'd chime in too.
build quality: not cheap imo, the ergonomics dept should pat themselves on the back. feels just right
doesn't feel laggy
sensors problem. compass seems a bit off, and the best gps lock i've had is 10m error after about 60s. i stood outside and waited, no lock. resorted to downloading gps status and downloaded the additional gps data. this seems to be the only way it's locked on. compared to a desire, this is hella slow and crappy for gps.
camera quality, i think for a phone it's good enough. for the ffc, so it's vga, but at what resolution does skype mobile use? what's that? it's not working? oh well. i think vga is fine for video calls. anything else is just additional cost.
about to test with music and haven't put a sim in yet to test the phone.
i bought it for development, so i'm now going to start messing about with it, but the phone feels nice and zippy, but disappointed with the sensors (will be testing outside tomorrow) as i'm looking to do a lot of augmented reality dev.
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i just got mine today, so thought i'd chime in too.
build quality: not cheap imo, the ergonomics dept should pat themselves on the back. feels just right
doesn't feel laggy
sensors problem. compass seems a bit off, and the best gps lock i've had is 10m error after about 60s. i stood outside and waited, no lock. resorted to downloading gps status and downloaded the additional gps data. this seems to be the only way it's locked on. compared to a desire, this is hella slow and crappy for gps.
camera quality, i think for a phone it's good enough. for the ffc, so it's vga, but at what resolution does skype mobile use? what's that? it's not working? oh well. i think vga is fine for video calls. anything else is just additional cost.
about to test with music and haven't put a sim in yet to test the phone.
i bought it for development, so i'm now going to start messing about with it, but the phone feels nice and zippy, but disappointed with the sensors (will be testing outside tomorrow) as i'm looking to do a lot of augmented reality dev.
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if you're going to test sound, i highly recommend using netarchy's kernel (unsure if it works on a I9020A).. but basically put Voodoo Sound, it'll be highly worth it without question
thanks, but i'm going to keep this stock.
You can change the bad color by using voodoo control app on the market and finding a kernel that supports it.
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thanks, but i'm going to keep this stock.
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if you're keeping it stock... why did you say
i bought it for development, so i'm now going to start messing about with it, but the phone feels nice and zippy, but disappointed with the sensors (will be testing outside tomorrow) as i'm looking to do a lot of augmented reality dev.
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aren't you simply contradicting yourself?
j0hnZ said:
You can change the bad color by using voodoo control app on the market and finding a kernel that supports it.
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Not sure what you mean by "kernal that supports it" Can anyone help me out with this? Whole reason I got a NS is so that I didnt have to mod/root etc lol
But I dunno if I can live with this yellow tint, I NEED to change it!
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if you're keeping it stock... why did you say
aren't you simply contradicting yourself?
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You can do plenty of app development on a stock rom. Not all development is rom/kernel based
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You can do plenty of app development on a stock rom. Not all development is rom/kernel based
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Yep, thank you. "Development" only means ROM development here. in the big-wide-world it means apps!
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Yep, thank you. "Development" only means ROM development here. in the big-wide-world it means apps!
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well, you didn't specify. and yes, development on XDA is defaulted towards ROM development and not apps.
bah. it doesn't matter, let's play nice.
want a game of horseshoe? HORSESHOE!
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bah. it doesn't matter, let's play nice.
want a game of horseshoe? HORSESHOE!
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What about a yellow tint? You have it? Its seriously bugging me out...
crap, sorry about the thanks there
no, i don't have a tint at all - i have a 9020. and no tint. i manually upgraded to 2.3.2 - too scared to update to 2.3.3 yet. i don't have a sim in it, so the ota wasn't registering.
in terms of sound quality, it blows away my ipod touch 1st gen, but then again most of my older cheaper mp3 players do so that in itself isn't saying much! the dynamic range sounds a lot better on this than what was on the desire too.
but still haven't taken the stickers on the phone off yet. need a case!
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Yep, thank you. "Development" only means ROM development here. in the big-wide-world it means apps!
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Lol lmo in your world maybe.
In the one that I live in and the rest of the world DEVELOPMENT means rom development or something else or different to improve the phone or make it looks nicer maybe a theme
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crap, sorry about the thanks there
no, i don't have a tint at all - i have a 9020. and no tint. i manually upgraded to 2.3.2 - too scared to update to 2.3.3 yet. i don't have a sim in it, so the ota wasn't registering.
in terms of sound quality, it blows away my ipod touch 1st gen, but then again most of my older cheaper mp3 players do so that in itself isn't saying much! the dynamic range sounds a lot better on this than what was on the desire too.
but still haven't taken the stickers on the phone off yet. need a case!
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You'd be even more amazed at sound with voodoo.
Seriously, you're missing out. But if u don't want to mod it then that's fine.
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doniqcc said:
Lol lmo in your world maybe.
In the one that I live in and the rest of the world DEVELOPMENT means rom development or something else or different to improve the phone or make it looks nicer maybe a theme
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putting glow-in-the-dark stickers on it will make it look nice... ohh i see... i didn't know that's development! thanks!
development means programming. fullstop. period. back to the scheduled show!
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putting glow-in-the-dark stickers on it will make it look nice... ohh i see... i didn't know that's development! thanks!
development means programming. fullstop. period. back to the scheduled show!
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Not in xda development but you can do it in android market place but you'll learn eventually it's ok. I can't wait to see what app you'll work on. wait I know something about teaching other people how to develop a rom without rooting your phone nice yeeeeah
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voodoo sound and color changed my life.
Try the settings in the apps and themes section of this forum.
aaronpaws said:
voodoo sound and color changed my life.
Try the settings in the apps and themes section of this forum.
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I wish I could do it without a root, I just cant seem to do the damn root, Im stuck on the drivers part....
Related
Is it faster than the Nexus S?
Are apps opening in lightening speed?
Is there any lag at all?
Is the camera fairly decent?
WLan works well?
Can't wait to get the darn thing next week..
P.S. Has anyone managed to remove the sim-lock?
Nope go read the threads screen sucks and slow on things. And I almost wanted on over my nexus s
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I can still choose whether I get the Nexus S or the Atrix; a friend in the US buys it tomorrow for me. I was done & dusted on getting the Nexus S (coming from an un-rooted Nexus One) until I took a final look on those specs of the Atrix again. That phone just looks too good on paper to not be good!
Guys, more updates please! Help a guy make up his mind..
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Is it faster than the Nexus S?
Are apps opening in lightening speed?
Is there any lag at all?
Is the camera fairly decent?
WLan works well?
Can't wait to get the darn thing next week..
P.S. Has anyone managed to remove the sim-lock?
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Apps opening? - Fastest phone I've own yet...
Lag? - yes. Going from an app like Angry birds to home screen, there's an initial lag. It's annoying. Must be Blurrrrr.
Camera? - Disappointed...iPhone 4 is definitely better.
Let's just say I'm ready to install a custom Rom without all the bloatware and lameBlur. Blur kills the phones IMO.
Not many phones can beat the iphone 4 camera appart from Nokia, but is the camera on the Atrix better than the HTC Desire or nexus s.
Cheers.
Go pure Google nexus s soo fast better screen nfc chip and gryoscope for games. 2.4 will set the standard soon witch this device won't see
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Apps opening? - Fastest phone I've own yet...
Lag? - yes. Going from an app like Angry birds to home screen, there's an initial lag. It's annoying. Must be Blurrrrr.
Camera? - Disappointed...iPhone 4 is definitely better.
Let's just say I'm ready to install a custom Rom without all the bloatware and lameBlur. Blur kills the phones IMO.
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What about running Launcher Pro on it, that'd make it a bit more sensible I think.
Camera; Using Camera 360 can probably crisp the images a bit more? it's a phone at the end of the day..
nucentury08 said:
Go pure Google nexus s soo fast better screen nfc chip and gryoscope for games. 2.4 will set the standard soon witch this device won't see
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Would luv to go Samsung but for me a LED notification light is the number 1 piece of hardware then the camers then the screen & samsung will not put a cheap led light on there phones, so only HTC & Motorola for me & HTC have done nothing new this year so far.
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Go pure Google nexus s soo fast better screen nfc chip and gryoscope for games. 2.4 will set the standard soon witch this device won't see
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Go back to the Nexus S boards then rather than trolling here. You clearly don't have the phone, any anything you state is a matter of opinion, and clearly jealousy since you're on our boards and not yours.
My atrix is fast. I had someinitial lag in the app drawer while using Launcher Pro but it is gone now.
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Came from Nexus One. Good upgrade.
Confirmed that with proper account provisioning, unlimited 4G data for $30, and the "phone" apn, upload is either capped by AT&T or HSUPA is disabled on the hardware by AT&T. Tethering plan may increase upload speed but I got no confirmation in this yet.
Otherwise it's an excellent upgrade from the N1.
-James
nucentury08 said:
Nope go read the threads screen sucks and slow on things. And I almost wanted on over my nexus s
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nucentury08 said:
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You like to troll don't you?
The phone works great, haven't had any lag at all so far. Only been playing on it for 4 hours though! Launcher Pro works great, I have the 3D settings on and the animations don't lag whatsoever. No complaints with the screen. Only thing that sucks is my Worms game isn't working Something about being an unsupported device.
Man I see you trolling on a ton of threads here and as a Nexus S owner myself you really give us a bad name.
Sound like a jealous teenager hating the fact that someone else could have something better than you... drop it already. Go back to school, learn to read and write correctly.
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Go pure Google nexus s soo fast better screen nfc chip and gryoscope for games. 2.4 will set the standard soon witch this device won't see
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My Quadrant score was 2690.
jmacdonald801 said:
Came from Nexus One. Good upgrade.
Confirmed that with proper account provisioning, unlimited 4G data for $30, and the "phone" apn, upload is either capped by AT&T or HSUPA is disabled on the hardware by AT&T. Tethering plan may increase upload speed but I got no confirmation in this yet.
Otherwise it's an excellent upgrade from the N1.
-James
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Thanks for that reply, great to know a fellow N1 owner is happy with the Atrix! The N1 is the best phone I've ever use; I am getting more & more convinced that the Atrix will have me equally mesmerized!!
Just hope that after Tuesday's off - contract sales someone will post a confirmed way to remove the sim lock too..
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Thanks for that reply, great to know a fellow N1 owner is happy with the Atrix! The N1 is the best phone I've ever use; I am getting more & more convinced that the Atrix will have me equally mesmerized!!
Just hope that after Tuesday's off - contract sales someone will post a confirmed way to remove the sim lock too..
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Should note that if you look at the reviews out there, the N1 battery life is crap (compared to the Atrix). Also the Atrix (like most newer Android phones) has a proper multitouch screeen. So you'll notice way better typing input immediately.
I will admit.... it's nice that nucentury is at least starting to use SOME punctuation. Not enough, but it's still an improvement from the first post i've seen from him in his other thread.
Besides.... who would even take the advice of someone who thinks that a gyroscope makes a phone that much better than any other device when it comes to gaming? A gyroscope has the same exact flaw as Microsoft Kinect. It's only logical to be used for a certain genre of games. Anything outside those genres, and it's just a useless addition to the phone.
Everything for me is great thus far. Phone is very snappy using LauncherPro also using Beautiful widgets.
Typing is spot on. Nice screen resolution. I would say the phone is overall faster than the Captivate and Inspire.
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yeah I love this phone very fast with scrolling no lag, switching apps super fast, the screen is excellent, I really like the power but/finger print reader works flawless, battery life is good, I did a bench mark test and had 2691
AllTheWay said:
Everything for me is great thus far. Phone is very snappy using LauncherPro also using Beautiful widgets.
Typing is spot on. Nice screen resolution. I would say the phone is overall faster than the Captivate and Inspire.
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Thanks for the reply! LauncherPro has become essential, it's good to know it enhances the Android experience here too.
i'm looking through the samsung.git (the kernel source) in the android source, and came across some very interesting commits from Arve Hjønnevåg on this page
http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=kernel/samsung.git;a=shortlog;pg=1
click on the commit link for the details
they point out that the colours were actually wrong, and have now been reset. so, actually, all's good - so stop whining!
personally, i prefer the new colours!
looking through the commit logs is actually really interesting. a really annoying bug in googles where, if you pressed flash, it would turn itself off was fixed here: http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=ke...it;h=65799b8cfd15cb61201a0492d8d7799136c4d440
and the explanation is informative too!
What was the point of "fixing" the colors? It's not a bug.
The colors may have been "wrong" before 2.3.3 but that's how I saw it in the store and that's what it looked like when I bought it. If I saw it at the store with the 2.3.3 colors there's a good chance I would have purchased a different phone.
I prefer the "fixed" colors as well. I mean, would you buy a TV or monitor with inaccurate color representation?
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I prefer the "fixed" colors as well. I mean, would you buy a TV or monitor with inaccurate color representation?
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Maybe, if I liked the way it looked. That's my whole point, I liked the way it looked when I bought it, and that's what I paid for. Bait and switch.
Colors were **** since 2.3.3 dont care what they say I have my own 2 eyes and lol that this "problem" was noticed so late into android
They should at least give the option to change them back threw the settings
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I prefer the "fixed" colors as well. I mean, would you buy a TV or monitor with inaccurate color representation?
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I sure as hell wouldn't want to buy a TV with fixed colors and settings
If you want to get technical most mainstream LCD TV and PC monitors are TN panel and they produce inaccurate colors anyways no matter what settings oyu put them on compared to lets say an IPS which have much more accurate natural colors
demo23019 said:
Lol colors are **** since 2.3.3 and OP its colors not colours
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Colours = Canadian / British
Colors = American
thanks learn something new everyday
SORRY MarkusPO
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Colours = Canadian / British
Colors = American
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Countries separated by a common language ;D
Gotta love it.
svanheulen said:
What was the point of "fixing" the colors? It's not a bug...The colors may have been "wrong" before 2.3.3.
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things that are generally 'wrong' in software are bugs. your logic is wrong. let's face it, we didn't buy the phone for pretty colours.
and it's not a bug in android, it was a bug in the samsung crespo (nexus s) firmware that's been fixed. only users of the nexus s will see the colour changes. the samsung.git is the boot kernel code.
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Countries separated by a common language ;D
Gotta love it.
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well...calling english a language with its lack of grammar is stretching it a bit too far! most of europe throughout time has looked upon english as being a language for idiots! and besides, american is a subset of english
So are the colors now similar to the Epic or "washed out" as a couple of people have noticed.
I am going to store today to consider change from Epic. I love my phone, dont care as much about GB since it is rooted and rommed to 1.3, however
what I want is the size.
Just not sure about using my upgrade just for size since I know there will be newer, flashier things out, which I also don't know that I really need . .
Such a nice choice to have . .
Any other pros/cons
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If I saw it at the store with the 2.3.3 colors there's a good chance I would have purchased a different phone.
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Really? You base your phone purchasing decision on what the colours look like? No regard for hardware, software, capabilities? Wow. Just wow.
nmoreman said:
So are the colors now similar to the Epic or "washed out" as a couple of people have noticed.
I am going to store today to consider change from Epic. I love my phone, dont care as much about GB since it is rooted and rommed to 1.3, however
what I want is the size.
Just not sure about using my upgrade just for size since I know there will be newer, flashier things out, which I also don't know that I really need . .
Such a nice choice to have . .
Any other pros/cons
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The argument just stems from the fact that the original colours on the Nexus S were over-saturated and were not 'correct' by any definition of valid colour space. Those that accept that there is a 'correct' colour space are generally happy with the change, and so don't consider the colours washed out.
Those that prefer the incorrect colours and over-saturation consider the colours to now be washed out.
As for pros and cons of the Nexus S, check out the many other threads giving detailed reviews or 'compare and contrast' opinion pieces.
For me the biggest seller to getting a Nexus S was the fact that updates come straight from Google (previously was on Milestone and Motorola are crap at providing timely updates), closely followed by the speed and responsiveness of the phone in general.
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Really? You base your phone purchasing decision on what the colours look like? No regard for hardware, software, capabilities? Wow. Just wow.
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lol what do you think most people do before they buy a TV
you look the your screen 99% of the time you use the phone it plays a huge part in hardware decision for allot even its its colors
like someone said earlier its called bait and switch
and whats worst with this is that they are fixed with the exception of kernel with voodoo
Also i never seen once person complain before about the colors Google used prior to the update
BUT now that this "problem" was fixed i see tons of people complaining including me and then other just lay back and except it becasue Google said it was a good choice
also try owning a phone prior to this with OLED like i did with my nexus one and vibrant...even WP7 has accurate colors for and OLED panel.
Google is just made a stupid decision.
FYI im huge into hardware ill bet im one of the top enthusiast when it comes to this stuff ...mainly PC hardware
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lol what do you think most people do before they buy a TV
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apples and oranges.
still, google and samsung even give you the complete source code for your phone, so, you can:
a) continue to whine and have it fall on deaf ears.
b) buckle up and modify the source code to your heart's content and hell, maybe even fix other problems.
c) use an existing solution.
whatever you choose, no one really cares, you're either happy, or if not, make the change.
so, start today.
make the change
'cause i'm standing with the... uh... oh.
not apples and oranges since they are FIXED on the nexus S
MarkusPO what model phone are you using?
If you're using SLCD you have no say in this..well at least my rant im talking about OLED like i said numerous times
color change impacts both screen types differently
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thanks learn something new everyday
SORRY MarkusPO
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lmfao...
10 char
I know on Cyanogenmod for the Evo it had an option to change the colors on the screen... does the Nexus S version have that as well?
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I didn't say that at all. There are plenty of other Android phones with similar capabilities and the screen was one of the factors.
They can say whatever they want my screen is now yellow ,I've even asked ppl at work who's never even looked at my phone before, what color is the white,and everyone says a tanish yellow color....smh
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Raver27 said:
what color is the white,and everyone says a tanish yellow color....smh
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exactly white is not white and this also impacts the contrast and that ultimately impacts the colors...they did this to conserve battery not that it look better
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lmfao...
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im sure you're far from perfect ...
im sure i can go threw your post history i can dig something up
In my urge to find something "different" I'm considering purchasing an X10, but all the reviews say it's just terrible...
Honestly, how bad can it be? Is this just tainted blood from when it was first released on 1.6? Am I wrong in thinking that it's a very usable device, either with the latest updates, or on a rom from the dev section?
I'd say wait another month when it gets Gingerbread and look for reviews then.
Right now, I wouldn't recommend buying it, no matter what custom rom you put on it. There are better phones you can get with the same price.
Ofcourse, I love the design, camera, UI, etc but the screen is so unbelievably bad right now, it goes over anything else
What do you mean the screen is bad? Response or the image on the screen?
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I'd say wait another month when it gets Gingerbread and look for reviews then.
Right now, I wouldn't recommend buying it, no matter what custom rom you put on it. There are better phones you can get with the same price.
Ofcourse, I love the design, camera, UI, etc but the screen is so unbelievably bad right now, it goes over anything else
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The screen isnt that bad at all. And theres always gonna be better devices for the same price no matter what device you have. There are better devices, but how much are you willing to spend?
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Seems they're easily had in the 150 dollar range used...
ClubDownforce said:
Seems they're easily had in the 150 dollar range used...
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Yes...but how much are you willing to spend on a phone? And what's the important features you want?
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Yes...but how much are you willing to spend on a phone? And what's the important features you want?
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I totally agree.
Most of the people that reviewed the x10 used it with Android 1.6.
IMHO, it's as bad as you think it is. But as Mr Patchy said what's the most important thing or feature do you want on a phone?
In my case, I just want a stylish, camera phone that has ANY Android OS in it be 1.6, 2.1 or 2.3, so with or without the GB update, I am quite satisfied.
Of course, any new features are welcome.
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I totally agree.
Most of the people that reviewed the x10 used it with Android 1.6.
IMHO, it's as bad as you think it is. But as Mr Patchy said what's the most important thing or feature do you want on a phone?
In my case, I just want a stylish, camera phone that has ANY Android OS in it be 1.6, 2.1 or 2.3, so with or without the GB update, I am quite satisfied.
Of course, any new features are welcome.
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Well yes....but not 1.6. If you can remember 1.6 the screen was terrible!!! But since 2.1 SE adjusted colors and made it a very nice display imho. But, yes I to find it important to have a quality camera on my phone....big big reason why I ditched my nexus one for my very first X10. Then everything else just fell in place. I loved the phone the day i got it and never looked back....and that was when it was on 1.6 lol.
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I need a quality cam, reliable signal, decent battery life, and a usable messaging system, with an accurate keyboard.
That's about it.
Camera, signal, and battery life are just fine. It's not the fastest phone. It's still pretty laggy even when optimized. Things should really improve with the 2.3 upgrade but even with that, there are faster, more powerful, and featured phones out there.
For the average smartphone user, the major downside to this phone is the low in call volume. I've had to purchase a bluetooth speakerphone for the car (which is great actually). Taking a call in a loud environment is awful.
ClubDownforce said:
I need a quality cam, reliable signal, decent battery life, and a usable messaging system, with an accurate keyboard.
That's about it.
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Id say go for it. You dont sound to demanding, and you dont sound like you need the best of the best. The X10 is pretty pleasing in my experience.
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I've had my x10 since march. Ive had other droids before and an iphone as well but what i really needed was the great camera that the x10 does have. I've always read people having problems with low in call volume but I can say that i've never had that problem myself. I never used the phone with 1.6, when i got it the 2.1 update was already released, so i never experienced the dreadfulness (some say) that was the 1.6 rom.
The x10 is a very beautiful and stylish phone (specially the white one) with an outstanding camera, HD video and android. I can agree, that the rom (The SE one anyway) is not the fastest or more responsive thing on earth, but I don't find it too horrible either. now that it has the dual touch, the large display is a lot better to handle, even if not perfect.
I say go for it. try to find the one dubbed x10 HD (one that comes with 2.1 out of the box), because it is my understanding that it has a better display module that looks even better than the first x10s did.
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Well yes....but not 1.6. If you can remember 1.6 the screen was terrible!!! But since 2.1 SE adjusted colors and made it a very nice display imho. But, yes I to find it important to have a quality camera on my phone....big big reason why I ditched my nexus one for my very first X10. Then everything else just fell in place. I loved the phone the day i got it and never looked back....and that was when it was on 1.6 lol.
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Is it lol? I didn't know since I got the x10 HD.
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Is it lol? I didn't know since I got the x10 HD.
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It was bad on 1.6. I have to admit. Most of my widgets looked like ****. And certain wallpapers i used were not tolerable. Since 2.1 dropped i havent had a single problem. Everything is nice and crisp. Consider yourself lucky lol
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It was bad on 1.6. I have to admit. Most of my widgets looked like ****. And certain wallpapers i used were not tolerable. Since 2.1 dropped i havent had a single problem. Everything is nice and crisp. Consider yourself lucky lol
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What were the colors originally
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If you want to make calls with your phone DON'T buy a X10! The in-call volume still is the worst I ever experienced in my life. All those updates, hacks or custom kernels didn't change anything. When you aren't in a church or library understanding someone is a challenge.
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One thing to consider is how long you plan to use this phone. The X10 Is about to receive android 2.3. This however will be the last official android upgrade that it will receive. I'm close to the end of a 2 year contract so this is not such an issue for me. Granted if you are planning to use a custom roms it won't be a big issue for you either.
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Willey1986 said:
If you want to make calls with your phone DON'T buy a X10! The in-call volume still is the worst I ever experienced in my life. All those updates, hacks or custom kernels didn't change anything. When you aren't in a church or library understanding someone is a challenge.
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get your carrier to repair it. I don't have this issue.
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It's stability ranges from no issue's at all to overheating, "usb & chipset" death.
Support from SE is very much lacking.
The x10 does not do well in low signal area's and will overheat and chew thru the battery on 3G.
The camera is nice but unfortunately lacks a flash.
The screen is great even with only 16Bit color.
It's upto you but i would suggest another handset.
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What were the colors originally
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Did you use the X10 on 1.6? There is a very big noticeable difference between 1.6 and 2.1. While they didnt give us 16m colors they did adjust the colors. Some of the same wallpapers and widgets i used then and now proove a massive difference. Not exactly sure how or what they did...but something was adjusted lol.
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It's stability ranges from no issue's at all to overheating, "usb & chipset" death.
Support from SE is very much lacking.
The x10 does not do well in low signal area's and will overheat and chew thru the battery on 3G.
The camera is nice but unfortunately lacks a flash.
The screen is great even with only 16Bit color.
It's upto you but i would suggest another handset.
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Ive noticed in bad areas it has its problems...sometimes even drops my call. But i most certainly remember my old nexus one had a very similiar issue where i live. When i had the galaxy s i didnt experience such issue...but that was only like a week...and my samsung focus has been by far the greatest. Not a single issue no matter where ive been.
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Has this been fixed with firmware updates or now that custom roms are able to be loaded?
Or is the screen just that terrible?
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I've heard this complain before but I don't seem to have this issue.. or perhaps I'm color blind or something lol.
I do intend to not have much yellow more so red and black on my screen than anything..
Is it really THAT MUCH of a nuisance?
it is really annoying, and unfortunately i'm pretty sure it's hardware-based due to the PenTile display. there are plenty of previous discussions on this so please search back and read up on it there.
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Has this been fixed with firmware updates or now that custom roms are able to be loaded?
Or is the screen just that terrible?
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It's not terrible for me. It's just the way our screen is.
Our screen was built for -> battery saving, that's why color reproduction has problems.
And for me the choice paid off, I am getting the best battery life than with any android smartphone.
If color reproduction was more important to you, you shouldn't have bought an Atrix.
Supposedly pentile screens also have advantages with sunlight visibility.My wife has an HTC Desire S, and it is literally unviewable in the Sun and yet mine remained completely usable and clear. She was not impressed and I was left gloating
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it is really annoying, and unfortunately i'm pretty sure it's hardware-based due to the PenTile display. there are plenty of previous discussions on this so please search back and read up on it there.
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Im well aware of the problem and there is no need for me to do a search. This is why I'm asking if the problem has been addressed. Doing a search will only net me what I already know as no one talks about this issue anymore.
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It's not terrible for me. It's just the way our screen is.
Our screen was built for -> battery saving, that's why color reproduction has problems.
And for me the choice paid off, I am getting the best battery life than with any android smartphone.
If color reproduction was more important to you, you shouldn't have bought an Atrix.
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You're getting the best battery life of any android phone because you have the biggest battery of any android phone LOL
And there is no reason in the world why inaccurate color reproduction would EVER result in better battery life. Unless of course you're talking about switching a screen to black and white.
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You're getting the best battery life of any android phone because you have the biggest battery of any android phone LOL
And there is no reason in the world why inaccurate color reproduction would EVER result in better battery life. Unless of course you're talking about switching a screen to black and white.
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He was saying that the screen technology on the ATRIX gave it better battery life. Not the color errors. Clearly.
I haven't noticed any colour reproduction errors.
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Magnetox said:
He was saying that the screen technology on the ATRIX gave it better battery life. Not the color errors. Clearly.
I haven't noticed any colour reproduction errors.
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Its too bad some color panel hidden behind the scenes couldn't be accessed to correct the color. It would have been a top contender for some time to come. Love how big the battery is.
Have they ported cm7 to it yet? Are they still doing the 2nd init hack or has the bootloader been unlocked?
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Im well aware of the problem and there is no need for me to do a search. This is why I'm asking if the problem has been addressed. Doing a search will only net me what I already know as no one talks about this issue anymore.
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wasn't trying to upset you.
but if we're on that wave, if you're well aware of the problem and searching only netted you no new answers, what did you expect asking would do? net you more non-new answers.
The Atrix screen indeed makes everything a little "bluer" (are your yellows slightly green?).
I read that in CM7 you can alter the color scheme a little bit, or there's an app that can also do this...I'd have to search a little bit to find what I'm talking about, but I'll post a link in just a sec.
Edit: this is what I was thinking of...Might not be exactly what you're looking for, as it requires you to have CM7 it looks like (not that that's a bad thing, but of course it's still in pre-beta and you might not want to use it). It's a start though, and gives you a little more info.
It's an unfixable hardware "problem".
It not a huge deal (can't really tell a huge difference)
Who cares.
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Its too bad some color panel hidden behind the scenes couldn't be accessed to correct the color. It would have been a top contender for some time to come. Love how big the battery is.
Have they ported cm7 to it yet? Are they still doing the 2nd init hack or has the bootloader been unlocked?
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No need for 2nd init...
Bootloader has been unlocked for a couple of months now.
CM7 is in early beta stages right now.
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wasn't trying to upset you.
but if we're on that wave, if you're well aware of the problem and searching only netted you no new answers, what did you expect asking would do? net you more non-new answers.
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You're wasting mine and everyone else's time.
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Monochrome ftw.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
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The Atrix screen indeed makes everything a little "bluer" (are your yellows slightly green?).
I read that in CM7 you can alter the color scheme a little bit, or there's an app that can also do this...I'd have to search a little bit to find what I'm talking about, but I'll post a link in just a sec.
Edit: this is what I was thinking of...Might not be exactly what you're looking for, as it requires you to have CM7 it looks like (not that that's a bad thing, but of course it's still in pre-beta and you might not want to use it). It's a start though, and gives you a little more info.
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This is excellent information and essentially a fix to the problem. I may pick up an Atrix for this very post right here!!! Thank you for the info!!!!
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BravoMotorola said:
It's an unfixable hardware "problem".
It not a huge deal (can't really tell a huge difference)
Who cares.
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Read the post above yours lol
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This is excellent information and essentially a fix to the problem. I may pick up an Atrix for this very post right here!!! Thank you for the info!!!!
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Lol sure thing. Just remember that, from what I can gather, it requires you to use the CM7 ROM (which in turn requires unlocked bootloader, etc. etc.) so make sure to look into all that first!
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Lol sure thing. Just remember that, from what I can gather, it requires you to use the CM7 ROM (which in turn requires unlocked bootloader, etc. etc.) so make sure to look into all that first!
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The only thing I use is cm7 so not to worry
I just need to ask around about a couple of other things about the Atrix before I decide to buy one again.
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The atrix is the bomb diggity yo.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
So today I flashed CM9 Beta 1, and I noticed the screen was different. The colors were fine, but the text was fuzzy and the icons were blurry. I didn't realize that this was because they disabled Samsung's mdnie coloring, which in my opinion, made the text look a lot better. So who hopes for Beta 2 that they re-enable the old colors because it looks awful now! I know this sounds immature, but I've seen so many complaints and I have to agree.
Where is the poll?
Also, please include an option for "indifferent".
My ol' eyes cant tell one from the other...
edit: Ha! Guess I was just to fast, and thanks for the I dont care option!
It looks good too me.. I won't vote yet, I may need to flash back to double check but I am pleased so far..
celsius0010 said:
It looks good too me.. I won't vote yet, I may need to flash back to double check but I am pleased so far..
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I just compared. The text is MUCH better in CM9 beta0. Honestly.
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I just compared. The text is MUCH better in CM9 beta0. Honestly.
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Got a place I can check that I could tell better than others?
My eyes ain't what they used to be, and I would like to see if I can tell, where it is supposed to be most obvious.
Still, I would rather an option to switch it on/off over stuck with one or the other, if possible.
When it comes to Android, I always tend to go with the "more options" path
God I agree with this. Please change it back. I'm getting more use to it but it does not really look all that better, and has more negatives than positives.
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I can live with it. It is certainly not a deal breaker for me, as I can tell the difference from beta0.
It doesn't look any different to me...I guess that means I don't give a crap. More free RAM sounds good to me.
Anyone have some screenies to show us the difference?
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It doesn't look any different to me...I guess that means I don't give a crap. More free RAM sounds good to me.
Any have some screenies to show us the difference?
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Screenies won't help. It mods the display. Camera photos will work. I notice a smoother fade on the settings app and keyboard.
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marcusant said:
Screenies won't help. It mods the display. Camera photos will work. I notice a smoother fade on the settings app and keyboard.
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I definitely notice its smoother in the settings app and i like that. However i wish the text would still render i bit better and i hope that they re-enable mdnie in beta2, or at least find a way to improve the text while keeping the smoothness in some other areas. Idk. Back to beta0 for me.
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RyleyinSTL said:
It doesn't look any different to me...I guess that means I don't give a crap. More free RAM sounds good to me.
Anyone have some screenies to show us the difference?
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I retracted my statement about the RAM as this doesn't actually free up any RAM. That was something else they modified.
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I just compared. The text is MUCH better in CM9 beta0. Honestly.
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I totally agree. My eyes hurt for a minute trying to focus.
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Someone should post side by side screen shots for the poll.
judogti said:
Someone should post side by side screen shots for the poll.
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You cant because the camera wont recognize it any differently. Without any bias, id say you just have to try them out yourself.
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The colors on my screen look more natural, but I don't notice any difference in text. I switched the kernel several times. I guess everyone's phone is affected differently.
Maybe it's something more complicated like differently manufactured screens or something (just taking a shot in the dark).
Some areas are better than others. I see it with black text on gray. There is a difference. Small, but you get the colors right you'll see it. Smaller the font the better it gets too.
I vote back or options.
I've been using voodoo color and then I updated to beta 1 and the white color is way off it looks like to me but it could just be not use to using my phone without voodoo
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this was most likely removed due to the fact that CM roms use nothing from the OEM. If the is an OEM setting it will never be added to CM roms.
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this was most likely removed due to the fact that CM roms use nothing from the OEM. If the is an OEM setting it will never be added to CM roms.
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No, this was removed because the devs on "our" end were experimenting with it. They even claimed they were unsure what it did, but that Noobnl said it looked better without it. Read the blog there's more info there. They are also letting people test a temp boot kernel with it re-enabled so they can decide before the next release whether to re-enable it or not. I just with in the meantime that they would release a perm flashable of the alternate kernel isntead of just the temp bootable.
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Zeinzu said:
No, this was removed because the devs on "our" end were experimenting with it. They even claimed they were unsure what it did, but that Noobnl said it looked better without it. Read the blog there's more info there. They are also letting people test a temp boot kernel with it re-enabled so they can decide before the next release whether to re-enable it or not. I just with in the meantime that they would release a perm flashable of the alternate kernel isntead of just the temp bootable.
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Really? I'll have to check with the CM team as they make it a point to never add any OEM features or settings. If its not part of the AOSP coding or CM coding then normally it is not added to Official from versions