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This app will be for all wm devices.
This is an ongoing project that is in need of some of you guys expertise. The rom of the treo 750v has been dumped and is in need of hacker and developers. The treo 750v has features that NO OTHER wm device does. Like the threaded sms messaging, which is sms in a chat style form.
http://www.palm.com/sg/products/smar...messaging.html is a little more about how it works and what it does.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279758 is a thread in the xda-treo forum, but I feel need to be here due to the fact that it will be for all wm devices and is in need of developers and hackers.
Attached is the rom dump.
Thanks, Cody
in many countries you pay pr. sms much more then you'd pay to send text over grps so for most ppl msn, skype or other IM clients would do the same thing only much cheaper
I am really not sure what the hype is about. Haven't used SMS in a long time a with 100MB data package, I have to agree with Rudegar even the built in MSN messenger is better.
Any way I thought you should know that what you posted is not a ROM dump and cannot be used to extract the app.
Interesting you say that. If you have kids sms messaging is almost a requirement. It is extremely popular with the younger generation. I find myself using it more and more. I have friends that send over 3k sms messages in a month. A threaded sms app sure makes it a much better experience.
The rom dump thread was moved by someone over to the treo section for those wondering where it went. The dump is on the ftp server.
ftp.xda-developers.com
userid: xdaupload pw: xda
file: treo750vrompartial_bcaslis.zip (dump of Part00, Part01 and Part02 partitions)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279758
I played with the rom dump yesterday. The messaging app does load, just seems to be missing some resources and/or registry entries that I'm not prepared to import right now (test machines all being used already).
It also appears to be fixed at 240x240, although that can probably be fixed later.
The rest of the rom - doesn't contain many intersting .exes, but I know hannip is interested in a number of the other devices and drivers installed. They don't appear to be device specific (c.f. many eten files are).
In the UK, data contracts are very expensive, and you get loads of SMS bundled in your contracts, so SMS makes sense. I don't IM from my phones. But both have their uses.
But I still can't see the fascination with threaded SMS. It'd be quite straight forward to program even if the treo app can't be sucked out.
V
PS Whoever dumped the roms to begin with, many thanks!
However, we may need to get an overview of the databases on the device as well, in case there are any custom databases. The speed dial plugin that has thus far been elusive relies on a call db. Either a device backup (using sprite etc) or a database dump would be useful to check. Just a guess, might lead to nothing.
Thanks vijay for all of your assistance! Good to hear that the sms app loads. I've been trying to get the a2dp dll's to work on my treo 700wx and 700w devices just to get my feet wet. Having some issues getting the dll's to load, but with your help I might figure this out yet.
The excitement for the 750 sms app over the other threaded sms apps out there is the clean integration with the os and today screen. I've tried other sms threader apps and they are buggy, don't grab messages when the pda is suspended, and leave copies of sms messages in poutlook. The one from triangle powers is a .net app and loads extremely slow because of it. It is expected that the palm written app will solve all of these problems. Plus it handles mms pictues, audio etc.
i dont say i dont use sms i just say i use sms as sms's as in short message service msg's
not as chat because i dont see the point of using it as chat
of cause if you dont pay pr. each sms
and want to chat with somebody who dont have msn it's usefull i guess
but another issue is the delay if that person is on a different network then you heard that compeating phone companys are not always too snappy to route to eachother
Rudegar said:
i dont say i dont use sms i just say i use sms as sms's as in short message service msg's
not as chat because i dont see the point of using it as chat
of cause if you dont pay pr. each sms
and want to chat with somebody who dont have msn it's usefull i guess
but another issue is the delay if that person is on a different network then you heard that compeating phone companys are not always too snappy to route to eachother
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Well, I'm someone who wants the SMS chat program badly.
Understand, it's not so much that you use like an IM program, you don't.
This is just a method by which to organize your SMS conversations e.g. say you and your friend over the day send back and forth to each other 20 messages, all releated to the same thing. Now throw in 15 more random SMS from other peopel in the same day. Your inbox would be a mismash of 20 something messages (assuming you don't delete every single one, maybe there is important info you need).
This program would "group" your SMS into a single "chat style thread", like and IM history would. You can then just delete the entire thread at once when you are done with it. It's also nice to keep that previous information handy, especially if your discussing plans, information, phone numbers etc. You just scroll up to find it again.
If you're a heavy texter, this is a great way to organize your back-and-forth conversations. It's not an IM replacment, so don't think of it as that.
In my case I use it as a compliment to AIM. I have AIM forwarding all of my IM's to my cell phone when I am away. That way my friends and family can msgs me anytime anywhere. My phone/pda can remain in suspend mode conserving the battery and I still get my IM's. I can reply to them just like an IM session. No need for the AIM client on my phone.
The best thing about using sms over an IM client is that you can communicate with anyone that has a cell phone. You don't have to tell someone to register with an IM server to send them messages. It works in suspend mode. With a nice sms chat app the only advantage an IM client has over it is the messages are more instantaneous. But for phone use that is acceptable imo.
Of course this all assumes you don't have to pay on a per sms basis.
Hi! theloanranger said he extracted the 750v threaded app already. It's at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1035112&posted=1#post1035112
Can somebody try it and post the screenshots please? I'm so looking forward to using it with my Pocket Loox T830 (not arrived yet)
Screenshots/Need some help!
Screenshots are found here:
http://discussion.treocentral.com/showpost.php?p=1106882&postcount=15
NOTE: Some of us are having issues. We CANNOT send an SMS to an email address. We get an error message:
"Could not send message. The message center number or the email center number is invalid. Please contact the wireless operator."
Now, in the SMS app, if you go to Menu --> Options --> Advanced tab
Network Configuration/Manual/Edit...
You'll see spots for "message center number" and "email center number" and both are blank. When you put in a number (such as found here: http://www.smsfre.com/SMS-Mesaging-Centers.htm ) they do not stick after hitting "OK".
Any help/ideas?
greetings to all, i'm happy i found this site after all this time,
it's ashame that i have paid over $300 for my last 2 cell phones each and neither one has a seperate lock for emails and contacts. I currently have t-mobile wing and before i had Dash. It's crazy because i use to have a $99 audiovox phone which enabled me to separetly lock my contacts, email, text messages with a simple 4 digit password. My t-mobile wing allows me to lock the entire phone but not separate apps. like mainly i want to lock my email, text, and contacts. But, i don't want to have to type my email password everytime i wish to read an email, a simple 4 digit code is enough. Anybody know of any programs u can download to fix this problem?
i have a touch screen and a co-worker was lookn at my phone, mistakingly tapped the screen an my email just opened, i recently sold a monitor on craigslist which gave many spammers my email so some male enhancement email popped up when the co-worker tapped it, he got a good joke in. same thing with text, 1 tap and u get access to all my text messages, personal and private. I don't understand how my $99 audiovox phone had seperate ways to lock contacts, pics, text, call logs, etc. but my $350 t-mobile Wing doesn't have a way to individually lock different programs, I have to lock to entire phone.
so if anyone knows of any programs to do so please help me. My ex-went through my phone and called several females (the list including 2 cousins and my supervisor) thanks
i just got my wing a few weeks ago, after a few messages bout low memory i purchased a 1gb storage card, i immediately transfered a couple programs, music, and pics over to it. I really don't have much running on my phone no knew programs on the main storage and only about 80mb on the 1 gb storage card. So i thought i was good to go! so i sync a small 40mb vid from my pc to phone, go to work, i have some funny stuff to show my co-workers.i keep trying to open the video, it plays for a second then i get some message about unable.because of memory.i can't recall the exact message. so i had to close and press play about 5 times b4 the vid would finally play, when it played it played very slow, staggering/moving in slow motion. I stopped all programs except windows media in task manager.
oh, and how about the time i was ready to record (video) of some co-workers before Christmas break and I got the unable to open camera because of memory message.nothing was running in task manager, i had to power off phone and then i was able to record my restless co-workers who didn't want to be on camera from the start.
Is there any way around all these memory problems with the Wing? i don't use many programs and all pics, small vids, ringtones are on my 1gb storage card, i get memory error messages even when internet explorer and messages aren't running.
any other Wing tips, links, tweaks, etc... is appreciated, i see alot of wing topics on this site! thanks
There are a couple of programs out there that will lock your phone the way you want.
Try this link for a few ideas.
http://www.handango.com/SoftwareCat...teId=1&osId=1063&osId=1063&N=4294912165+95886
The reason you get the memory problem is because of a memory leak problem in the Tmo Stock Rom.
The memory problems you are having aren't because of "hard drive", they are because of "RAM" if you were to compare ur PPC to a computer.
I would suggest you upgrade to one of the roms. If not, just make sure you are always closing out programs after your done with them, because ur task manager settings may be to minimize programs when you hit the X, instead of closing them out.
I too have the same dilemma. There is only one lock for the entire device. Although there are apps that allow you to encrypt information, I have only been able to find where they encrypt within that application (e.g. files and documents, or passwords, PIN codes, credit card info, etc.), not the individual components of WM6 (e.g. calendar, tasks, or contacts). Currently I am using FreeOTFE to encrypt sensitive data, but it is outside of the WM6 core functionality.
Another annoying issue with one lock is that in order to use the phone you have to unlock the device every time you want to dial out. It would be nice to be able to lock just the PDA functionality and have the phone functionality stay unlocked.
I looked through the apps suggested in the Handango link above, and none appear to address this scenario. Any other suggestions?
thanks for all the responses!
Teutonics i'm with you! i didn't see anything on the link provided that addressed this issue, also i was looking possibly for a freeware application but i can pay if nec. i just don't feel like paying is nec. when i've already dropped $350 for something that I KNEW WOULD COME WITH A SMART PHONE................Considering smart phone owners usually have some type of business about themselves (legal or illegal) how could you not include an application that protects contacts, text messages and emails.....................i don't get it, a $99 audiovox phone had all this crap but my $350 wing and my old Dash don't. I don't know if Blackberry comes with those options but at times i'm wishn i would've went with blackberry, their users seem to be less agitated. between my Dash and now Wing, i've spent over $500 in 2 months of phones, so it looks like i'll be staying put with Wing for a while.............i just hope i can find more tweaks to meet my needs. advice and links are appreciated!! thanks
im a wing user too!!
had the same problem before.. thats because of the memory leak..
Ive flashed a rom.. touch-it or oen touch is great... (put that in the serch box**) flash your rom and your memory problem will be solve
Hi,
I have a T650i and I would like to transfer my SMS from that phone to my Xperia X1.
I've seen many threads explaining how to transfer contacts from older SE-phones, but nothing about SMS. Can it be done? I used to do use MyPhoneExplorer, but since it doesn't support WM, it's not an option anymore.
Thanks
save them to your SIM if possible!?
i remmeber older phones saving SMS on the simcard only. not sure if a winmo phone can use these
Thanks, but the problem is that I have around 900 SMS and the sim only accepts 30.
Is there any other way to do it through the PC?
900sms? i bet 5$ that u dont even need half of them oO
u should to an T650i forum and ask there. once u manage to squeeze te SMS into outlook somehow, u can probably just sync them
achmed20 said:
900sms? i bet 5$ that u dont even need half of them oO
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I write approx. 900 SMS each month and the same amount I get back. But therefore I have hardly any calls. Good for me that I've got a SMS-flatrate
According the problem:
In which file format does myphoneexplorer save the transferred SMS? It has to be possible to convert these to a usable format. Maybe it would be enough to have all the SMS as a text-file on your X1 so you can read through if needed?
I have problems with the X1 everytime I have that much SMS stored (messaging software does not open, it does not respond to key presses and so on)
MyPhoneExplorer saves the SMS archive in many formats: txt, csv, xml, html, right click and export.
I used MyPhoneExplorer to backup sms's on my K800i, i have every single sms i ever received in the K800's lifetime (2 years).
And while in this subject, i'll ask the following question:
Is there in WinMo a way to backup sms like i already do with with K800 and MyPhoneExplorer? a way to backup the sms's and save them to the computer in some readable format?
Since MyPhoneExplorer saves the SMS archive in txt, csv, xml, html, is there any way of transfering them (as sms, NOT as a text file) to the same sms inbox on the X1?
Try SMSimport. It's a freeware that imports and exports in XML. It's a simple exe that you run directly on the phone.
http://wince.nasenbaeren.net/smsimport/
You may have to edit the names of the folders in the XML to make it compatible with your X1.
You can just make an export file from it first to see the XML import structure.
Hi. I'm new to this community and I'm very impressed. Congrats
I've tried once to import SMS via SMSImport, but it always said 'Invalid XML' or sth. like that although I rearranged the order in the XML as SMSImport seemed to want it.
Has anybody solved this issue?
THX
I use OEExport. It exports to Outlook Express with the folders intact (Inbox, Deleted, Sent etc). It has an option to export to xml too, IIRC.
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My question, is why on earth would anyone need to keep all those SMS?
I mean, unless your girlfriend doesn't tell you she loves you enough and you need to keep the texts, or if youre keeping them for evidence (for some reason) or maybe if you have a friend like I do who gets sent joke SMSs and decides to forward 700 of them to you when he's on flatrate weekend SMS just to piss you off because your phone becomes unusable for pretty much the entire weekend.
Please enlighten me.
Would it help if I tell you that some people like to keep records of all their SMS in/out.
I had a girlfriend a few years ago that wrote down every single SMS in a notebook. No, I'm not kidding. She wasn't that much into computers obviously.
0_o
maedox said:
Would it help if I tell you that some people like to keep records of all their SMS in/out.
I had a girlfriend a few years ago that wrote down every single SMS in a notebook. No, I'm not kidding. She wasn't that much into computers obviously.
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Nope, it seems it's still beyond all comprehension of mine. Do you guys also record all voice conversations you make?
I mean, keeping your text messages is hardly like keeping a box of love letters or something now is it?
I'm as much as cyborg as the next guy, I am so electronically inclined that the gadgets I carry and use will probably fuse to me one day anyway, BUT i just don't find anything anyone has to say to me by text _that_ interesting or _that_ important
I'm not taking a swing at you guys or anything, I just really would like to understand, I'm a happier person when i understand things.
Like, ok, I keep the odd text message about things people have said to me, because theyre just downright fantastic for my street cred (if you know what I mean) but that's simply because some of it is just so good, nobody would believe me if i just told them myself, even if i quoted it word for word.
I'm with you. I usually don't need to think twice about throwing away messages when doing a hard reset. Although, as you say, there are some that need to be kept safe forever.
But this is not what the topic's about.
O.k. guys, I'm convinced now. I won't spend any minute anymore in thinking about how to transfer my SMS back. 99% of all that stuff I would rather likely never need again in the future and if I really need it, it is still on my PC.
Nevertheless - thank you!
Greetz
Why backup sms ?
Some of my SMS contain info I need, I am just too lazy to save it when I get it - like an address, or rocket launch code just plain I like to have my SMS conversations available to refresh my memory in case I need it.
From time to time I want to do upgrade or other destructive thing and I don't want to loose my messages. I would like to keep a copy of all my SMS in outlook 2007 but my cheapskate uprising and empty wallet steer me out of paid software, I am going to try programs mentioned in previous posts but if someone knows about some great synchronization or transfer or WhateverYouCallIt software please keep us informed about it.
Thank you all for great site.
i think MOBILedit works for you.
google it for the main website.
hope it helped
Sincere apologies if this has been asked before but I couldnt find it.
I would like to use android for daily use but have been put off by the MMS problems and the constant need to disconnect/reconnect data when trying to surf etc.
I would be more inclined to use it if would save my text messages in such a way that I could get them in both winmo and android?
So if someone send me a text in android, when and if I boot into winmo, I would be able to see it there as well?
Is this possible?
Thanks in advance
Bumpity Bump?
the only way to do this is to save them to your sim card (i think)
Which is what I am asking! I want it so when i use winmo my messages are there ready, and when i boot into android my messages are ALSO there.
Im looking for a way to save texts to storage card, and them to be accessible by both winmo and android. Is this possible?
Don't think so.. Not by default..
Someone could develop a system that uploads all texts from WM to an online database (or local datastores like SD) and then sync it in Android again.. And the other way around..
One solution is to use an application like SMSBackup (Android) or Windows Phone (i think of was called) to upload sent and received messages to a cloud service (like gmail).... I can't think of one that bridges both operating systems though.
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ajsullivan said:
Which is what I am asking! I want it so when i use winmo my messages are there ready, and when i boot into android my messages are ALSO there.
Im looking for a way to save texts to storage card, and them to be accessible by both winmo and android. Is this possible?
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sorry i dont know exactly how to do this, my phone just decides to do it sometimes
Would that kind of program be hard to create?
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Would that kind of program be hard to create?
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I think the main obstacle here is the demand. I don't think this is a major concern for the devs out there.
really? i find that hard to believe. there are lots of people using android and winmo dual boot. being able go have texts etc available on both OS's would be very useful to a lot of people.
I for one would find this type of app useful!
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really? i find that hard to believe. there are lots of people using android and winmo dual boot. being able go have texts etc available on both OS's would be very useful to a lot of people.
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I was syncing 6000 sms in WM with MyPhone. Every single ROM was becoming slow after that. Keeping sms in WM is a no-go for me now.
Working my way to that amount in Android but from just having a few hundred you can see the small delay in loading the pic of the contact in the sms list.
I think you misunderstand me a little.
I dont keep every msg I have ever got sent. But i do keep them for a month or so. I am looking for a way to store ALL my text messages (automatically) onto my SD card and have WINMO and Android be able to recognise they are there on boot up.
At the moment if someone send me a msg in android, the message is not in WINMO which makes it difficult to track conversations.
I hope that clears it up a little.
sprint migrate maybe, but you'd constantly be having to convert back and forth, not even too sure if it can do sms!!!
just to add to the amount of demand: this would be very helpful to me too!
I use WM most of the times, because I also have some mobile apps running I need for work. Everything works great. Next to that I have android installed. The problem is: I can't have two databases of text-messages. It would get too confusing after a while. So I can't have text messages coming in while in Android-mode (since I wouldn't be able to see them in WM). Phone-calls and email are no problem off course, neither are contacts. Only these text-messages trouble me...
If both databases could be sync'able or mergeable automatically, that would be grrreat!
Now, who can make it happen? (I wonder...)
+1 Ditto! It's the only reason I haven't switched (plus battery-life, but I think I can make that manageable if texts are fixed)
I rarely ever keep text messages and wonder why unless they are really important why people would want to keep them
Can't see this ever being possible to be honest...they'll both use their own format to store the messages...only way would be to store them online somewhere, but that would mean having to connect to wifi or 4g to view your texts which wouldnt be very handy.
Yes, that's what I think too, but I can only hope, can't I ;-)
@jonny68: next to just for chatting I use sms to exchange and/or discuss data with other people just because that works best for me. (they don't always have email on the go). That's why they have to be all together and in the right order. I do keep them for a while too...
Reset-a-thon 2K10!
I think the awnser lies in either the MyPhone server and or Exchange for Windows Server 2008 R2.. I am going to investigate this further and will report back my findings.. Hang in there!
btw.. I for one just took advantage of the HTC recall/replace of the 16GB MicroSD card, Next day air, that's what I call service. They replaced the SanDisk Class 2 with a Samsung Class 2 16GB, and I must say Android boots twice as fast!
a few days ago, i got a message when i think when someone sent me a text... i got the message saying that phone hit limit for sms or something... i was like O.O theres a limit? D:
need a way to save texts in a readable format... preferably by conversation/person and not by time received?
I think the messaging app internally has a limit. I've used SMS backup to export and import my messages to XML format when I flash new ROMs. I haven't looked at the resulting XML files themselves, but I'd imagine it'd be fairly trivial to manipulate them into however you want them displayed.
I believe it has to do with the internal mem. When you get that message try installing something you probably wont be able to
The internal messaging app is ****. Or it was back when I used it. Handcent > *
teh_lorax said:
The internal messaging app is ****. Or it was back when I used it. Handcent > *
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Either way they are saved to the same location.
If you install a heap of apps and run down your internal memory, you will also run out of space for Sms, i don't think though that there is a specific amount of space allocated to sms.
There is a limit. When your internal memory is getting low and you will see a SMS spacing low. If there are more SMS coming in basically you can't receive any..
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i tried using SMS backup which backs up SMS to gmail. but the limit is 100 per convo... any way to increase number to unlimited?
I use sms backup as well because I can then reference any text I've ever sent by just searching that thread in my gmail account.
The 100 count limit is not a real limit, it will keep uploading them in chunks of 100 till it gets all your messages. It's just for the initial upload. After that it uploads your texts thru the day in real time so it will never need to come close to the 100 limit.
you must have a lot of apps installed on your Nexus, or be a monster of texting...cos I've got more than a thousand sms in mine, and there's no problem at all.
Could be that you hit the internal memory limit?
RogerPodacter said:
I use sms backup as well because I can then reference any text I've ever sent by just searching that thread in my gmail account.
The 100 count limit is not a real limit, it will keep uploading them in chunks of 100 till it gets all your messages. It's just for the initial upload. After that it uploads your texts thru the day in real time so it will never need to come close to the 100 limit.
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actually 100 is the limit of the conversation within gmail...
I have contacts with hundreds of messages exchaned and those appears as multiple conversations (100sms each one) in gmail...
You could switch to google voice. I've used Google voice since I opened the white box and pulled my sexy nexy out. You can have it send your number out instead of ur Google voice number with text but I switched to just my voice number so I never have to worry about porting numbers and giving a new one out again. Google has more space on there servers than my phone ever will =D
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