This app will be for all wm devices.
This is an ongoing project that is in need of some of you guys expertise. The rom of the treo 750v has been dumped and is in need of hacker and developers. The treo 750v has features that NO OTHER wm device does. Like the threaded sms messaging, which is sms in a chat style form.
http://www.palm.com/sg/products/smar...messaging.html is a little more about how it works and what it does.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279758 is a thread in the xda-treo forum, but I feel need to be here due to the fact that it will be for all wm devices and is in need of developers and hackers.
Attached is the rom dump.
Thanks, Cody
in many countries you pay pr. sms much more then you'd pay to send text over grps so for most ppl msn, skype or other IM clients would do the same thing only much cheaper
I am really not sure what the hype is about. Haven't used SMS in a long time a with 100MB data package, I have to agree with Rudegar even the built in MSN messenger is better.
Any way I thought you should know that what you posted is not a ROM dump and cannot be used to extract the app.
Interesting you say that. If you have kids sms messaging is almost a requirement. It is extremely popular with the younger generation. I find myself using it more and more. I have friends that send over 3k sms messages in a month. A threaded sms app sure makes it a much better experience.
The rom dump thread was moved by someone over to the treo section for those wondering where it went. The dump is on the ftp server.
ftp.xda-developers.com
userid: xdaupload pw: xda
file: treo750vrompartial_bcaslis.zip (dump of Part00, Part01 and Part02 partitions)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279758
I played with the rom dump yesterday. The messaging app does load, just seems to be missing some resources and/or registry entries that I'm not prepared to import right now (test machines all being used already).
It also appears to be fixed at 240x240, although that can probably be fixed later.
The rest of the rom - doesn't contain many intersting .exes, but I know hannip is interested in a number of the other devices and drivers installed. They don't appear to be device specific (c.f. many eten files are).
In the UK, data contracts are very expensive, and you get loads of SMS bundled in your contracts, so SMS makes sense. I don't IM from my phones. But both have their uses.
But I still can't see the fascination with threaded SMS. It'd be quite straight forward to program even if the treo app can't be sucked out.
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PS Whoever dumped the roms to begin with, many thanks!
However, we may need to get an overview of the databases on the device as well, in case there are any custom databases. The speed dial plugin that has thus far been elusive relies on a call db. Either a device backup (using sprite etc) or a database dump would be useful to check. Just a guess, might lead to nothing.
Thanks vijay for all of your assistance! Good to hear that the sms app loads. I've been trying to get the a2dp dll's to work on my treo 700wx and 700w devices just to get my feet wet. Having some issues getting the dll's to load, but with your help I might figure this out yet.
The excitement for the 750 sms app over the other threaded sms apps out there is the clean integration with the os and today screen. I've tried other sms threader apps and they are buggy, don't grab messages when the pda is suspended, and leave copies of sms messages in poutlook. The one from triangle powers is a .net app and loads extremely slow because of it. It is expected that the palm written app will solve all of these problems. Plus it handles mms pictues, audio etc.
i dont say i dont use sms i just say i use sms as sms's as in short message service msg's
not as chat because i dont see the point of using it as chat
of cause if you dont pay pr. each sms
and want to chat with somebody who dont have msn it's usefull i guess
but another issue is the delay if that person is on a different network then you heard that compeating phone companys are not always too snappy to route to eachother
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i dont say i dont use sms i just say i use sms as sms's as in short message service msg's
not as chat because i dont see the point of using it as chat
of cause if you dont pay pr. each sms
and want to chat with somebody who dont have msn it's usefull i guess
but another issue is the delay if that person is on a different network then you heard that compeating phone companys are not always too snappy to route to eachother
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Well, I'm someone who wants the SMS chat program badly.
Understand, it's not so much that you use like an IM program, you don't.
This is just a method by which to organize your SMS conversations e.g. say you and your friend over the day send back and forth to each other 20 messages, all releated to the same thing. Now throw in 15 more random SMS from other peopel in the same day. Your inbox would be a mismash of 20 something messages (assuming you don't delete every single one, maybe there is important info you need).
This program would "group" your SMS into a single "chat style thread", like and IM history would. You can then just delete the entire thread at once when you are done with it. It's also nice to keep that previous information handy, especially if your discussing plans, information, phone numbers etc. You just scroll up to find it again.
If you're a heavy texter, this is a great way to organize your back-and-forth conversations. It's not an IM replacment, so don't think of it as that.
In my case I use it as a compliment to AIM. I have AIM forwarding all of my IM's to my cell phone when I am away. That way my friends and family can msgs me anytime anywhere. My phone/pda can remain in suspend mode conserving the battery and I still get my IM's. I can reply to them just like an IM session. No need for the AIM client on my phone.
The best thing about using sms over an IM client is that you can communicate with anyone that has a cell phone. You don't have to tell someone to register with an IM server to send them messages. It works in suspend mode. With a nice sms chat app the only advantage an IM client has over it is the messages are more instantaneous. But for phone use that is acceptable imo.
Of course this all assumes you don't have to pay on a per sms basis.
Hi! theloanranger said he extracted the 750v threaded app already. It's at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1035112&posted=1#post1035112
Can somebody try it and post the screenshots please? I'm so looking forward to using it with my Pocket Loox T830 (not arrived yet)
Screenshots/Need some help!
Screenshots are found here:
http://discussion.treocentral.com/showpost.php?p=1106882&postcount=15
NOTE: Some of us are having issues. We CANNOT send an SMS to an email address. We get an error message:
"Could not send message. The message center number or the email center number is invalid. Please contact the wireless operator."
Now, in the SMS app, if you go to Menu --> Options --> Advanced tab
Network Configuration/Manual/Edit...
You'll see spots for "message center number" and "email center number" and both are blank. When you put in a number (such as found here: http://www.smsfre.com/SMS-Mesaging-Centers.htm ) they do not stick after hitting "OK".
Any help/ideas?
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All - the developer of this software is doing a marvelous job of implementing bug fixes and feature request. I have been testing this software extensively and the latest version 117 is starting to appear very promising. It is very useful if you do not mind living with a few limitations. This software provides Treo style chat messaging for the pocket pc. I am using this software because even if we get the new Treo750v wm5 version of chat messaging application it may still be buggy for our devices. Furthermore even the Treo threaded chat program had some limitations that could had been easily resolved if the software was provided by independent developer willing to take suggestions and implement them quickly.
Take a look at the software at http://www.trianglepowers.com/ppc6700/Default.aspx
If you use Expressmail or the any email push software that uses sms messages to notify push content do not use this program.
I think all of the threader apps are VERY good efforts. But most lack the main feature of being felt as if they are built in. That is what annoys me most... they are often sluggish and non responsive. It's a shame but Palm did it right with the Treo 600 and up. Hopefully the 750v will deliver with a workable cab file.
It has been slow over at TreoCentral for people to recieve their devices. However, they are working on trying to get the app off of it. Hopefully soon.
can i get how usefull this is? i read one part of it and it says you can txt a email account? i.e i could use my txt app as my email address to comunicate with diffrent people via "Txt emails"
Ok before i used a program like SPB Phone Suite to block phonecalls my question is, Can we block SMS texts from single users ? i would like to be able to block texts and phonecalls from certain people. Is there a way i can add a filter like the filters you find for file types? last resort is getting another huge program like and of the SPB software.
I'm also interested in a feature like this. Quite a few annoying ex-girlfriends that like to text me randomly for no apparent reason.
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I'm also interested in a feature like this. Quite a few annoying ex-girlfriends that like to text me randomly for no apparent reason.
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exactly my point i have the same problem or friends who dont get the hint.
T-Mobile says no
According to T-mobile, there is no way to selectively block SMS messages. This is especially troublesome, given that advertisers (and others I don't care for) are starting to send messages to T-Mo phones using SMS (they know they can't be blocked) and I have to pay for them!
Check out the link in my signature for sms and call filter.
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According to T-mobile, there is no way to selectively block SMS messages. This is especially troublesome, given that advertisers (and others I don't care for) are starting to send messages to T-Mo phones using SMS (they know they can't be blocked) and I have to pay for them!
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All you have to do (to stop advertising) is reply with: Stop
If you are in the USA:
By law, advertisers have to cease and desist all communications when you tell them to stop. If they don't, its considered harassment and you can file a complaint with the FTC or even sue the company for harassment.
I know this because I was being harassed by an advertiser and I had to file a complaint.
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all it took me to was a make money page sure theres talk of sms blockers etc but the link is a get paid online no download newhere
Reply with STOP didnt seem working to me, those advertising still do come.... and that is costing me $$. And the bad thing is - you don't even know who are they, the caller is show 3700 3701 3702 etc ....
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Reply with STOP didnt seem working to me, those advertising still do come.... and that is costing me $$. And the bad thing is - you don't even know who are they, the caller is show 3700 3701 3702 etc ....
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mail me you can ask tmobile to block certain numbers. But i am looking for a phone based application to block sms and calls or hide them and reply with a sms like blocked... that you can selectivly block or unblock. So the sms's will still come just not show. i have unlimited texts so its not a matter of getting the texts i just dont want to be annoyed or called by these people.
lol well if somebody with any knowledge on how to surpress phone calls and or sms/mms's know how to do this maybe they can make a freeware app.... spb phone suite was ok but it is large and alot of the time causes phones to go into a boot loop if you dont remove your memory card.
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I'm also interested in a feature like this. Quite a few annoying ex-girlfriends that like to text me randomly for no apparent reason.
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I found this program it allows to blacklist SMS messages i have not tried put it to use by actually knowing if it works but there is a blacklist feature in it. By category, individual contact, and phone number. For those who are trying to stop getting texts from certain numbers ie 4-5 digit spammers you can infact call tmobile and have a number blocked. i have a family plan and my brother kept texting without a text plan i asked if you can block texts all together and CS said no they can halt from single numbers.
Also once again thanks to all the senior members for all of their help *sarcastic laugh*
Also this allows for exporting and many other features if you view the website of the maker it has SS's
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all it took me to was a make money page sure theres talk of sms blockers etc but the link is a get paid online no download newhere
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http://www.logic-unlimited.com/callfirewall.php
scroll to the end of the page and download for free.
thank you. ill give it a try when i get home
you guys are so popular with all ur ex crazies after you...
I may not be as popular as you, but whenever this has occured to me, i've just not responded and eventually they would get bored and stop bothering me.
shaileshashar said:
http://www.logic-unlimited.com/callfirewall.php
scroll to the end of the page and download for free.
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i was going to suggest this. love the app! i just wish it was able to do it without being loaded..but it works so thats what matters!
MAGICALL
Call firewall is ok, but I like magicall myself. You can black specific phone numbers/SMS. Also you can have the program auto respond via sms and you can set it up to ignore/hang up/pick up and hang up on certain numbers. Overall GREAT program.
this should help a bit
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Ok before i used a program like SPB Phone Suite to block phonecalls my question is, Can we block SMS texts from single users ? i would like to be able to block texts and phonecalls from certain people. Is there a way i can add a filter like the filters you find for file types? last resort is getting another huge program like and of the SPB software.
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was going to post the link, but i see now that i was beaten to it
psyop1 said:
According to T-mobile, there is no way to selectively block SMS messages. This is especially troublesome, given that advertisers (and others I don't care for) are starting to send messages to T-Mo phones using SMS (they know they can't be blocked) and I have to pay for them!
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do you remeber the days when text messaging was free? my nokia brick was my texting machine back in those days lol, and then it was incoming texts free and you only get charged per outgoing, now tmo and everyone else just charges u for whatever packet goes in and out of your phone these days. since pocket pc's and smartphones are running windows mobile it can intercept calls before it gets to the dialer and intercept texts before it gets into the box, all it does it save you the annoyance of "seeing" the calls come in and will hit ignore for you same with text, but i think you still get charged per incoming text even if sms filter stops it on the phone.
diabolical28 said:
I found this program it allows to blacklist SMS messages i have not tried put it to use by actually knowing if it works but there is a blacklist feature in it. By category, individual contact, and phone number. For those who are trying to stop getting texts from certain numbers ie 4-5 digit spammers you can infact call tmobile and have a number blocked. i have a family plan and my brother kept texting without a text plan i asked if you can block texts all together and CS said no they can halt from single numbers.
Also once again thanks to all the senior members for all of their help *sarcastic laugh*
Also this allows for exporting and many other features if you view the website of the maker it has SS's
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that not working with 6.1 :-(
duprade said:
you guys are so popular with all ur ex crazies after you...
I may not be as popular as you, but whenever this has occured to me, i've just not responded and eventually they would get bored and stop bothering me.
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hahah maybe there's diff reason ! for me I dont want number 1 through whatever to text me or call while I'm with number whatever . so gotto keep game on downlow.. chicks like tree if you dont put stick into it in the begining . it'll be all over ! so why not.. this seems to be american game right?
Hi,
I`m looking for an application, which I can use to send texts trough carriers website.
Many network carriers offer sending free texts from their websites (sometimes without logging in, sometimes with).
I`m interested in, because I`d like to use it for sending texts abroad for free.
I know that I can go to carriers website using Opera (or any other browser) and do it, but it takes time and makes it all a bit complicated.
I`d like to put the number and message and then press send, app. picks up that it`s an international number of recipient and forwards it to set earlier carriers website(without launching Opera) and sends it.
I`ve got 100 free texts every month trough my carriers website and I can use them to send texts abroad.
Maybe, there is something already as described above?
I had a very similar application on my desktop PC, it was called SMS Pilot and it did the trick on my home PC.
I`ll buy a case of "amber nectar" for it.
Cheers.
i like the idea but i think there are flaws in it in some cases. for example i can have up to 2messages free per day from vodafone.
the problem would be that as soon as you have used up those messages, sending another will fail..
you could solve it though..
1. just have the program give you the option to use normal txt mode or through carriers website
2. have a daily/monthly sms counter, maybe with a reminder so that you know what you have left..
anyway, loving the idea
hi!first of all sorry for my poor english.... the solution exist yet!!! i know two programs. one is java "skebby" the others is java and in beta test for windows mobile, the name is jack sms. i don't konow if they support the porvider you need. you can easy find if they do what you need. bye
Hi,
I have a T650i and I would like to transfer my SMS from that phone to my Xperia X1.
I've seen many threads explaining how to transfer contacts from older SE-phones, but nothing about SMS. Can it be done? I used to do use MyPhoneExplorer, but since it doesn't support WM, it's not an option anymore.
Thanks
save them to your SIM if possible!?
i remmeber older phones saving SMS on the simcard only. not sure if a winmo phone can use these
Thanks, but the problem is that I have around 900 SMS and the sim only accepts 30.
Is there any other way to do it through the PC?
900sms? i bet 5$ that u dont even need half of them oO
u should to an T650i forum and ask there. once u manage to squeeze te SMS into outlook somehow, u can probably just sync them
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900sms? i bet 5$ that u dont even need half of them oO
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I write approx. 900 SMS each month and the same amount I get back. But therefore I have hardly any calls. Good for me that I've got a SMS-flatrate
According the problem:
In which file format does myphoneexplorer save the transferred SMS? It has to be possible to convert these to a usable format. Maybe it would be enough to have all the SMS as a text-file on your X1 so you can read through if needed?
I have problems with the X1 everytime I have that much SMS stored (messaging software does not open, it does not respond to key presses and so on)
MyPhoneExplorer saves the SMS archive in many formats: txt, csv, xml, html, right click and export.
I used MyPhoneExplorer to backup sms's on my K800i, i have every single sms i ever received in the K800's lifetime (2 years).
And while in this subject, i'll ask the following question:
Is there in WinMo a way to backup sms like i already do with with K800 and MyPhoneExplorer? a way to backup the sms's and save them to the computer in some readable format?
Since MyPhoneExplorer saves the SMS archive in txt, csv, xml, html, is there any way of transfering them (as sms, NOT as a text file) to the same sms inbox on the X1?
Try SMSimport. It's a freeware that imports and exports in XML. It's a simple exe that you run directly on the phone.
http://wince.nasenbaeren.net/smsimport/
You may have to edit the names of the folders in the XML to make it compatible with your X1.
You can just make an export file from it first to see the XML import structure.
Hi. I'm new to this community and I'm very impressed. Congrats
I've tried once to import SMS via SMSImport, but it always said 'Invalid XML' or sth. like that although I rearranged the order in the XML as SMSImport seemed to want it.
Has anybody solved this issue?
THX
I use OEExport. It exports to Outlook Express with the folders intact (Inbox, Deleted, Sent etc). It has an option to export to xml too, IIRC.
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My question, is why on earth would anyone need to keep all those SMS?
I mean, unless your girlfriend doesn't tell you she loves you enough and you need to keep the texts, or if youre keeping them for evidence (for some reason) or maybe if you have a friend like I do who gets sent joke SMSs and decides to forward 700 of them to you when he's on flatrate weekend SMS just to piss you off because your phone becomes unusable for pretty much the entire weekend.
Please enlighten me.
Would it help if I tell you that some people like to keep records of all their SMS in/out.
I had a girlfriend a few years ago that wrote down every single SMS in a notebook. No, I'm not kidding. She wasn't that much into computers obviously.
0_o
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Would it help if I tell you that some people like to keep records of all their SMS in/out.
I had a girlfriend a few years ago that wrote down every single SMS in a notebook. No, I'm not kidding. She wasn't that much into computers obviously.
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Nope, it seems it's still beyond all comprehension of mine. Do you guys also record all voice conversations you make?
I mean, keeping your text messages is hardly like keeping a box of love letters or something now is it?
I'm as much as cyborg as the next guy, I am so electronically inclined that the gadgets I carry and use will probably fuse to me one day anyway, BUT i just don't find anything anyone has to say to me by text _that_ interesting or _that_ important
I'm not taking a swing at you guys or anything, I just really would like to understand, I'm a happier person when i understand things.
Like, ok, I keep the odd text message about things people have said to me, because theyre just downright fantastic for my street cred (if you know what I mean) but that's simply because some of it is just so good, nobody would believe me if i just told them myself, even if i quoted it word for word.
I'm with you. I usually don't need to think twice about throwing away messages when doing a hard reset. Although, as you say, there are some that need to be kept safe forever.
But this is not what the topic's about.
O.k. guys, I'm convinced now. I won't spend any minute anymore in thinking about how to transfer my SMS back. 99% of all that stuff I would rather likely never need again in the future and if I really need it, it is still on my PC.
Nevertheless - thank you!
Greetz
Why backup sms ?
Some of my SMS contain info I need, I am just too lazy to save it when I get it - like an address, or rocket launch code just plain I like to have my SMS conversations available to refresh my memory in case I need it.
From time to time I want to do upgrade or other destructive thing and I don't want to loose my messages. I would like to keep a copy of all my SMS in outlook 2007 but my cheapskate uprising and empty wallet steer me out of paid software, I am going to try programs mentioned in previous posts but if someone knows about some great synchronization or transfer or WhateverYouCallIt software please keep us informed about it.
Thank you all for great site.
i think MOBILedit works for you.
google it for the main website.
hope it helped
Hello All.
I am currently in the process of developing an application to text mobiles via an activesync connected device.
So no subscriptions, no pay per text etc etc.. Simply uses your phone\tarrif to send messages..
I was considering releasing it on here, and wondered what (if any) would the interest be? Would anyone use it?
It's in the early dev stages at the moment... But I am willing to consider BETA testers.
Would you be willing?
Cheers
MikeSel^
yes i would love to help beta your application. let me know when its ready! cheers!
Sounds good, I had a program to do this with my ancient Nokia.
If you can make it provider independent I would love to test it
I would also love to help beta your application. let me know when its ready! Thanks
Would you be able to make it read text's also, so you could use it like an email client - would be easier for me to send texts whilst at work like this.
I would be willing to test.
I would use this daily as i send alot of text messages!
this would be great, my phone is hooked up to activesync the whole time at work and im constantly sending txts.
I can send texts from MS Outlook 2k7, no activesync or phone hookup needed- but I think you have to have Sprint as a carrier and a hotmail account.
Thanks for your replies..
I will add them all to my development plans, and post up once the beta is ready to test.
This will be completely independant from any carriers as it will simply use your phones carrier to send\receive messages!
If you have any feature requests feel free to reply with them now.
Thanks
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If you have any feature requests feel free to reply with them now.
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Ability to browse inbox/sent items if you can please - so no interaction with the phone is needed.
Also, mark messgaes read/unread and delete.
They are all i would probably use. Cheers for the effort man!
Read/Unread... Good idea!!
**Runs off to implement**
KEEP UM COMING!
I use my mobile from desktop by using http://www.jeyo.com/index.asp its not free but works well for me.
I'm very interested in this...
Will you run a client application on the device, or are you directly accessing the data? (RAPI maybe?)
Well the idea stems from Jeyo, I've used it for ages.. But I feel there are parts missing from it. An I like to be able to customize the software to how I want to use it.
I am currently using RAPI with a 'server\client' type thing going on. However I am not sure this will be how it ends up. Depends on how much I can squeese from RAPI.
Looking forward to this mate, should be a good little project for you.
I know what u mean with customizing software that ur using.
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OK, how about supporting command line so that i can send txt msgs using my '.net programs'.
Even better would be to expose a sort of API through a dll file.
I would love that.
Ok, Well my proof of concept exe may help you there.. The exe simply reads from a text file. First line phone number, next line message..
So I have an app that creates the text message copies it to the device and then starts the exe. Which sends the exe,,
So if you want to use this, make the text file in the root of the device and run the exe.
I will build in a similar function to the final version.
Thanks
Mike
cool im looking forward to this. it would be really usefull.
im up for this too....will it work with Vista?
mDesktop is wicked for txtin from tour desktop, if you have ur diamond connected the txts pop up on you monitor 2