Samsung Doubles Speed of MicroSD Card for Smartphones - Epic 4G General

Im interesting in seeing the real world results of these new microSD cards, might just be out in time for me to buy one for my Epic.
Here's the link to the article.

That's actually pretty interesting. I might have to pick one up after they become commercially available. My 16gb class 10 is great, but a 32gb class 10 sounds WAY sexier haha
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i wonder what the MSRP is on this...

Well the question is can our phones handle it? I haven't tried to use any 32gb since before Froyo and I'm running Ef02
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faceless said:
i wonder what the MSRP is on this...
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I'll go conservative and guess $500.

ddrbeastappv1 said:
Well the question is can our phones handle it? I haven't tried to use any 32gb since before Froyo and I'm running Ef02
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Our phones can go up to 32gb.

I really don't see what's new here. Class 10 microSDs (even 32GB ones) have been out for a while. I bought a 16GB one for my Epic near the end of last year.

Does anyone know what the hardware limitations of our phone's MicroSD slot is? Will we even get appreciable benefits from this?
Edit: I just ran a test on the stock 16GB card that comes with the phone and for 21.4MB/s read and 10.6MB/s write speed. Anyone tested different classes?

I was under the impression (probably wrongly but can find nothing on it) that the only reason 32GB is the largest supported size is simply because nothing exists larger than that right now. Is it probable that Android can support an unlimited size micro-card?

Not only has class 10 been out for awhile, but their "doubling of speed" claim is based on the minimum specs for class 4. Most good quality class 4 cards already exceeded this.
I was hoping they'd changed the code on the in-phone reader to allow for better throughput as its clearly worse than my dedicated SD reader.

othan1 said:
I was under the impression (probably wrongly but can find nothing on it) that the only reason 32GB is the largest supported size is simply because nothing exists larger than that right now. Is it probable that Android can support an unlimited size micro-card?
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Nope, 32GB is the largest that the SDHC addressing structure can handle. That's why they came out with SDXC.
SDXC cards can theoretically go to 2048GB.

poit said:
Nope, 32GB is the largest that the SDHC addressing structure can handle. That's why they came out with SDXC.
SDXC cards can theoretically go to 2048GB.
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Two terabytes. On a micro card. In a phone.
Wow.

Think of the gallery loading times or how long the media scanner would take!
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Think of the gallery loading times or how long the media scanner would take!
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But by the time you see 2TB on a micro, I'm sure the 64 core processor will handle it just fine.
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SD Card Question

I'm new to android phones, and have a very noobish question. I'm wanting to upgrade the SD card in my g2, and am not sure what I should get. I wanted to get a 32 gig card, but I can only find class 4 cards, if I drop to a 16 gig I can get class 6 or class 10 cards. Which one would be the best, I run psx4droid so I do have the games on the card. Other then that everything is ran from the phones internal memory I think, so would a class 4 card be fine or does it really need to be class 6 or better, also is class 10 worth the difference in costs?
I'm still using the stock sd. I don't run games though. Its up to your personal preference. If I was to upgrade i'd get top of the line. They do make a difference in classes but I don't think enough to the point where it will effect your psx gaming. My 2 cents is to go with what your comfortable with.
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the classes refer to write speed so dont worry
I'm using a SanDisk 32GB Class 2 card with my Nexus One and it's working well. Speed tests have shown that it is performing slightly better than the Class 4 level.
Thank you everyone for the timely responses and information!
Were r u finding the 32 and how much?
As to the op I use stock card abd psx 1.7 without a problem runs smooth
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xile6 said:
Were r u finding the 32 and how much?
As to the op I use stock card abd psx 1.7 without a problem runs smooth
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I'm not sure what the polices are on links here, but I found it at newegg for 119.99.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820139393
SynOfDreams said:
I'm not sure what the polices are on links here, but I found it at newegg for 119.99.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820139393
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links are cool as long as your not trying to sell something or its illegal software.
but i would never pay that much for a card for a phone thats a 1tb usb hard drive for me
i was going to get a 32gb long time ago but ebay are full of fakes
but yea the stock card works great for psx games

SanDisk Announces 64GB MicroSDXC for mobile phones | Android Community

I think I want this.
http://androidcommunity.com/sandisk-announces-64gb-microsdxc-for-mobile-phones-20110915/#bXpulseX
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SanDisk has mentioned the 64GB SDXC cards should be available starting next month for the low low price of just $219
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Yea its a bit pricey but just imagine a 96gb tablet or even a 128gb tablet.
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It makes since. I mean if you look at it; laptops and desktops can hold more space then tablets right not, so the logical thing for them to do would be to make sd cards that can hold more.
Bigger on the inside...
vamp6x6x6x said:
It makes since. I mean if you look at it; laptops and desktops can hold more space then tablets right not, so the logical thing for them to do would be to make sd cards that can hold more.
Bigger on the inside...
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Uhh... I guess?
jondwillis said:
Uhh... I guess?
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lol, sorry about the bigger on the inside thing. I was thinking of an episode of Doctor Who
This will not work with your xoom or most devices out right now for that matter. It requires a SDXC slot to read the card (xoom and most devices have SD slot) and the card is not backward compatible. So dont rush just yet.
jase33 said:
This will not work with your xoom or most devices out right now for that matter. It requires a SDXC slot to read the card (xoom and most devices have SD slot) and the card is not backward compatible. So dont rush just yet.
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Aww, you kinda rained on my party lol, but you did probably save me as well as many other people a bit of money
If you are _VERY_ lucky a firmware update could enable or does someone know it needs new hardware?
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jase33 said:
This will not work with your xoom or most devices out right now for that matter. It requires a SDXC slot to read the card (xoom and most devices have SD slot) and the card is not backward compatible. So dont rush just yet.
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Good call! Thanks for sharing. It would've been pretty crappy to find this out the hard way.
The Xoom uses the SDHC standard and will never support SDXC. No, a firmware update will not change this fact.
Well, we always have the USB OTG cable option if we use up both the internal and external 32GB memory. The price of the card is just to high now anyway.
Ya know they could have put a bay in for hdd. That would solve the problem.
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Isun said:
Well, we always have the USB OTG cable option if we use up both the internal and external 32GB memory. The price of the card is just to high now anyway.
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I can buy 4 32GB cards for that price.
Yes, these cards work in Android devices after formatting them from exFat to Fat32:
http://www.androidnz.net/2011/09/sandisk-64gb-micro-sdxc-cards-confirmed.html
remember laptops/desktops have a lot more capacity as u say BUT (and a big but) check apps size of android vs PC/Laptops - i'd say 32GB are like 320GB on a PC - mind u i have 5 *2TB in my Gigabyte 3d Aurora tower ^___^

SDhc problem.

Hello!
I just got my new SD HC (32Gb) card for my htc HD2 device, but im getting weird crashes when i just put some Gb of for example music. It deletes some of it, or changes it to thousands of 0byte weird files..
Can someone help?
/card wasnt expensive and its not Kingston or so./
ZathuraPL said:
Hello!
I just got my new SD HC (32Gb) card for my htc HD2 device, but im getting weird crashes when i just put some Gb of for example music. It deletes some of it, or changes it to thousands of 0byte weird files..
Can someone help?
/card wasnt expensive and its not Kingston or so./
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I'm really not certain about this, but their a limit on the size SD card our hd2's can support. (Either 16 or 32gb which is what I'm uncertain of) try formatting your new SD card into two 16 gb partitions and then see what happens.
Hopefully either that helps or someone with more knowledge than I will comment and give you a better answer
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I'm really not certain about this, but their a limit on the size SD card our hd2's can support. (Either 16 or 32gb which is what I'm uncertain of) try formatting your new SD card into two 16 gb partitions and then see what happens.
Hopefully either that helps or someone with more knowledge than I will comment and give you a better answer
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Well the limit is definitely not 16gb because I have one of those and it works fine in Android but it for some reason cannot boot SD Android. Also, if I'm not mistaken MarkAtHome (I've seen him in many of the NAND threads, especially NexusHD2) has a 64GB SDXC card as he was posting something about that a while ago. He'd have to confirm though.
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ZathuraPL said:
Hello!
I just got my new SD HC (32Gb) card for my htc HD2 device, but im getting weird crashes when i just put some Gb of for example music. It deletes some of it, or changes it to thousands of 0byte weird files..
Can someone help?
/card wasnt expensive and its not Kingston or so./
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Where did you get your memory card?? You son are a victim of false advertisement. I purposely purchased a "cheap" 16GB sd card from ebay and it wasnt even bigger than like 300MB. There are ways to fake the memory size, and thats why when you try to put the music on your card is says its not there because there truly isnt any physical memory available. And also why it gives those weird readouts. Sorry to bust the news :/
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I'm really not certain about this, but their a limit on the size SD card our hd2's can support. (Either 16 or 32gb which is what I'm uncertain of) try formatting your new SD card into two 16 gb partitions and then see what happens.
Hopefully either that helps or someone with more knowledge than I will comment and give you a better answer
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According to HTC's website, the HD2 can support up to a 32GB SDHC (class 10 i believe)
elesbb said:
According to HTC's website, the HD2 can support up to a 32GB SDHC (class 10 i believe)
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People have used 64gb that also works
hengsheng120 said:
People have used 64gb that also works
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Yes. You set up two partitions 32 gb each.
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There have been threads discussing how certain sd cards do not perform well in android devices, including the HD2. It has to do with some of the access times the cards are rated at.
I have tested a 32gb patriot class 10 card in the HD2 and samsung vibrant that made both phones freeze and run terribly slow until the card was removed.
Sandisk cards run flawlessly in the HD2 and I have only been using them for the past year, including a 32gb and a 64gb SDXC. The 64gb must be formatted as fat32 inside the phone before it can be used, but the full 64gb is available.
ZathuraPL said:
Hello!
I just got my new SD HC (32Gb) card for my htc HD2 device, but im getting weird crashes when i just put some Gb of for example music. It deletes some of it, or changes it to thousands of 0byte weird files..
Can someone help?
/card wasnt expensive and its not Kingston or so./
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I agree with elesbb. Infact the same thing had happened to me about 4 years ago. What they do it put a memory hack in the SD card fooling it to think there is more memory. I would say if you bought it from ebay contact the seller first and
tell them you think it might be fake and you wish to get a real card asap. If they don't send you one or sound like they may be un-willing to then you should report them. Here's some information found on ebay's site about fake memory cards.
If you bought it from a different online seller you should still contact them about it and say you did some research and believe you recieved a counterfit item. In the link i shared above there are a few examples of how to spot fake cards including some pictures if you go through the links. I've read somewhere that if you have a sandisk and the class rating is in the corner then you more then likly have a counterfit one. Sandisk's class ratings should be centered in the middle of the SD card.
Okay, i've just sent email to him, hopefully he will just re-send me new, (working..?) or give money back!

Can you use 64 GB microsd

I was wondering if it is possible to use a 64 GB microSD card with my MT4G. If so, what ROM do I need? I searched and the only thread I found was a thread from 2011 saying that the cap is 32 GB because that is the limit of microSDHC. I found a good deal on a 64 GB card and would like to get it if I can use it.
Yeah it will work, but you won't get the claimed speeds due to our old hardware.
Just format the card in the phone and you're good to go.
what is the speed I will get with the card? I'm looking at a class 6
shiboby said:
what is the speed I will get with the card? I'm looking at a class 6
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Not sure. I'm doing research on this. I know the card will WORK on the mytouch 4G, but I don't see any mytouch 4G specific speed tests. I saw where a newer phone got better speed on sdxc class 6 than sdhc class 6, but again that's newer hardware.
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I would like to know too
thanks
Try it and let us know so I can get one to
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What kind of speed tests are you guys looking for? I have a 64GB microSDXC card in my MT4G. I'd be willing to run a couple tests if you guys are looking for any specific information as long as you tell me what you want done.
Can we use a SD booster app to get the acclaimed speed with a 64GB SD card ? :what:
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Tez MyTouch said:
Can we use a SD booster app to get the acclaimed speed with a 64GB SD card ? :what:
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A lot of the performance gain seen with SDXC cards comes from the new file system included- exFAT. ExFAT is not supported on our device, at least not in any ROMs I've used since getting mine. I'm not sure if different ROMs can include the necessary changes to allow exFAT usage. If I had to speculate, I'd say it probably depends on firmware updates to the card reader in the phone that we likely won't ever see.
Instead, to achieve functionality, you must use your phone to format the microSD card before it can be used. As a result, we won't be able to see all the benefits the newer, higher capacity cards have to offer. An SD booster application may still be able to speed things up a little, just as it could with the older cards. I just wouldn't expect too much.
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My microSDXC card is a Sandisk Class 10 200x 64GB SDXC. The formatted capacity of my card is 59.4GB. I have about 31GB of free space. This card was NOT empty when I ran these tests. I'm not sure that would effect the tests at all, but if so, this should lean more towards real performance rather than results you'll never see once you start using a card.
Here are a few speed tests:

[Q] Actual space on the Nexus 7?

I was wonder, the OS takes up space, but how much space? I pre ordered the 8 gig but if the OS takes more than a gig or so, I think I'm going to upgrade to the 16 gigs.
What do you guys think or if one of you have it, how much actual space doe sit have?
I searched for it and could not find anything.
Thank You In Advanced.
I think they said in some article that with the 8gb one, with the preloaded magazines and some apps, they had about 5.6gb left over. Hope this helps.
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ky0nkyon said:
I think they said in some article that with the 8gb one, with the preloaded magazines and some apps, they had about 5.6gb left over. Hope this helps.
My life for Aiur
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Wow, that doesn't leave us with much honestly... I think I have to switch it to the 16 gigs.
You also have to remember that they come preloaded with a movie which will take up a good deal of space
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That's about what it's left on a kindle fire running a cm9 ROM.
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Baconrules21 said:
Wow, that doesn't leave us with much honestly... I think I have to switch it to the 16 gigs.
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I just contacted google hopefully they will let me alter the order to 16gb, if it was just for data 8gb would be plenty for me but as its fixed after purchase for £40 extra it makes a bit of sense to chose the larger size
edit: just looked on my TF101 and Galaxy s2 and, on the tf101 I have 600mb of apps and on the S2 I have about 1gb of apps, so I could probably manage with the 8gb version I will decide what to do when google get back to me
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You also have to remember that they come preloaded with a movie which will take up a good deal of space
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I wonder if the movie is actually stored on the device or if it's kept in the cloud.
Micro USB
The Tech Specs says that the Nexus 7 memory is internal.
pdadb.net says that the Nexus 7 supports up to 32gb of memory.
I've read is several forum responses that the 16gb tablet has a micro SD card and that the 8gb one doesn't, but I've not been able to corroborate that on any of the official web sites.
I'm waiting to read a tear down report to see what is actually inside the Nexus 7 tablet. (Too much unsubstantiated information is being posted in the forums)
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The Tech Specs says that the Nexus 7 memory is internal.
pdadb.net says that the Nexus 7 supports up to 32gb of memory.
I've read is several forum responses that the 16gb tablet has a micro SD card and that the 8gb one doesn't, but I've not been able to corroborate that on any of the official web sites.
I'm waiting to read a tear down report to see what is actually inside the Nexus 7 tablet. (Too much unsubstantiated information is being posted in the forums)
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I haven't held a Nexus 7 yet, but of all the pictures, videos and reviews I've seen there has been no mention of a microSD slot included on the device. That seems like a far cry.
ThunderTech said:
The Tech Specs says that the Nexus 7 memory is internal.
pdadb.net says that the Nexus 7 supports up to 32gb of memory.
I've read is several forum responses that the 16gb tablet has a micro SD card and that the 8gb one doesn't, but I've not been able to corroborate that on any of the official web sites.
I'm waiting to read a tear down report to see what is actually inside the Nexus 7 tablet. (Too much unsubstantiated information is being posted in the forums)
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I've watched quite a few hands on videos.
There is no sd card slot.
Yea everyone is complaining that there is no SD card slot, so I don't think there is one.
Baconrules21 said:
Yea everyone is complaining that there is no SD card slot, so I don't think there is one.
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But if you think about it, everyone who got one at I/O has an 8gb version. Nobody actually owns a 16gb version yet. I know it probably isn't possible, but it would be cool if they added a little more hardware to the 16gb version to help justify the $50 price jump. Either way, it's the one I'm buying.
Solution:
http://www.kingston.com/us/usb/wireless/#wid
This works great. I have the 32gb.
monkeyluis said:
Solution:
http://www.kingston.com/us/usb/wireless/#wid
This works great. I have the 32gb.
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Monkeyluis,
How long is the battery life on your Wi-Drive? How many unique devices can it serve simultaneously?
The Wi-Drive came out (I think) after I bought a Seagate Satellite, or I might have bought the Wi-Drive instead. The pros of the Satellite is that it holds 500gb and can serve unique content simultaneously to about 5 users before it bogs down (with hacked firmware). The cons are that it's a lot bigger than the Wi-Drive appears to be and it's battery is only good for about 5 hours or so. With the lower price of the Wi-Drive, it looks really good -- particularly if it has something approaching 10 hours of battery life.
SoonerLater said:
Monkeyluis,
How long is the battery life on your Wi-Drive? How many unique devices can it serve simultaneously?
The Wi-Drive came out (I think) after I bought a Seagate Satellite, or I might have bought the Wi-Drive instead. The pros of the Satellite is that it holds 500gb and can serve unique content simultaneously to about 5 users before it bogs down (with hacked firmware). The cons are that it's a lot bigger than the Wi-Drive appears to be and it's battery is only good for about 5 hours or so. With the lower price of the Wi-Drive, it looks really good -- particularly if it has something approaching 10 hours of battery life.
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If you're streaming movies yes I think it could last 8-10 hrs. I have not used it for that long at once though. You can have up to 3 unique devices at once. The wi-drive is pretty small, light & thin. Easy to slip into a pocket or extra pocket in a bag.
monkeyluis said:
Solution:
http://www.kingston.com/us/usb/wireless/#wid
This works great. I have the 32gb.
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Does the device have to be by you to use it?
monkeyluis said:
Solution:
http://www.kingston.com/us/usb/wireless/#wid
This works great. I have the 32gb.
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But wouldn't it be better if they just put a micro sd slot on the bloody thing? 8gb is a joke, but an extra £40 / £50 for another 8gb is an insult!
I was interested / excited but I think I'll give this one a miss.
ARAMZE said:
But wouldn't it be better if they just put a micro sd slot on the bloody thing? 8gb is a joke, but an extra £40 / £50 for another 8gb is an insult!
I was interested / excited but I think I'll give this one a miss.
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The reason why they did not add a SD card slot, at least to my belief, because it would make the tablet slower. It takes more processing power to go through the SD and what not then the local HD. That's why I think iPhones and what not are less laggy because it maximizes it's processors for its dedicated hard drive and it does not have to sift through the others which makes it a bit faster.
Baconrules21 said:
Does the device have to be by you to use it?
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Within wifi range yes.
ARAMZE said:
But wouldn't it be better if they just put a micro sd slot on the bloody thing? 8gb is a joke, but an extra £40 / £50 for another 8gb is an insult!
I was interested / excited but I think I'll give this one a miss.
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Of course. I'm just providing a solution for those that want the extra space.

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