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Everybody chill! =)

Just wanted to say - I got my Xoom, and yes, I do see some freezes and weird behavior every once in a while.
It doesn't bother me though.
We're all early adopters helping to push Honeycomb forward. Since Xoom is the only tablet atm that uses honeycomb, and it's a pure "Google Experience Device", I'm sure we'll have updates from ElGoog soon and often. Plus, this device is a heaven for developmental though and experimentation, so I'm sure we'll see great things from our local genuises at XDA.
So everyone chill and enjoy a rare opportunity to be there when it all starts =)

DarkDvr said:
Just wanted to say - I got my Xoom, and yes, I do see some freezes and weird behavior every once in a while.
It doesn't bother me though.
We're all early adopters helping to push Honeycomb forward. Since Xoom is the only tablet atm that uses honeycomb, and it's a pure "Google Experience Device", I'm sure we'll have updates from ElGoog soon and often. Plus, this device is a heaven for developmental though and experimentation, so I'm sure we'll see great things from our local genuises at XDA.
So everyone chill and enjoy a rare opportunity to be there when it all starts =)
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I have had mine since the doors opened at Costco here in South Florida and I have not had one freeze or force close. I think people may be loading up apps that are not designed for Honeycomb causing issues. For the most part, I am sticking to Honeycomb apps only with a few exceptions. I am also not loading alternate launchers like ADW. I suspect loading things like this will cause problems.

Yea I couldn't agree more.just be patient.we'll have a flash update coming within two weeks also.I love my Xoom
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keitht said:
I have had mine since the doors opened at Costco here in South Florida and I have not had one freeze or force close. I think people may be loading up apps that are not designed for Honeycomb causing issues. For the most part, I am sticking to Honeycomb apps only with a few exceptions. I am also not loading alternate launchers like ADW. I suspect loading things like this will cause problems.
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+1 mines never froze, fc'd or lagged either. Its a little slow rotating sometimes but its not an issue.
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I read a post yesterday, I can't remember by who, saying that this "Early Adopter" argument is invalid. I believe it was because it would be easy for all tech-companies to take advantage of this and release crappy products that they know consumers will eat up and look past the issues because they know they are "early adopters". As much as I don't like to repeatedly mention Apple, it doesn't seem that they release products riddled with bugs and expect their consumers to shrug it off and say "Oh yea, we're just early adopters, these bugs don't matter!".
Nothing can be perfect obviously, but things can be more perfect than others. Why release something so unfinished when you can release it later in a more complete state? I don't have a Xoom yet, but it seems that Honeycomb was rushed out the door much too quickly. Did Google do this to beat the iPad 2 in the market race? We all know it will still easily sale millions.. they could've waited.

Apple doesn't release products before they are ready? Really? Have you used an iPhone 4 and tried to make a phone call? Did you used an Ipad when it first came out? It had no software for it. Once competition comes and millions of people buy android tablets, the developers will come.
While I agree I would of prefered and more polished Honeycomb, there are ALWAYS growing pains with new technology...especially with brand a new OS. My xoom, like wine, will only get better with age.
Just give it time. It isn't a half assed product....it just needs some software updates. Lets all be happy that soon the mod community is going to do things with it that won't be possible with other devices.
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Yeah. It's not halfassed. Only about 5% assed.
I think the update will work wonders.

Eclair~ said:
I read a post yesterday, I can't remember by who, saying that this "Early Adopter" argument is invalid. I believe it was because it would be easy for all tech-companies to take advantage of this and release crappy products that they know consumers will eat up and look past the issues because they know they are "early adopters". As much as I don't like to repeatedly mention Apple, it doesn't seem that they release products riddled with bugs and expect their consumers to shrug it off and say "Oh yea, we're just early adopters, these bugs don't matter!".
Nothing can be perfect obviously, but things can be more perfect than others. Why release something so unfinished when you can release it later in a more complete state? I don't have a Xoom yet, but it seems that Honeycomb was rushed out the door much too quickly. Did Google do this to beat the iPad 2 in the market race? We all know it will still easily sale millions.. they could've waited.
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I just wonder how you can give a valid opinion about something you don't own. It would be like me giving an opinion on a ferrari italia.

Eclair~ said:
I read a post yesterday, I can't remember by who, saying that this "Early Adopter" argument is invalid. I believe it was because it would be easy for all tech-companies to take advantage of this and release crappy products that they know consumers will eat up and look past the issues because they know they are "early adopters". As much as I don't like to repeatedly mention Apple, it doesn't seem that they release products riddled with bugs and expect their consumers to shrug it off and say "Oh yea, we're just early adopters, these bugs don't matter!".
Nothing can be perfect obviously, but things can be more perfect than others. Why release something so unfinished when you can release it later in a more complete state? I don't have a Xoom yet, but it seems that Honeycomb was rushed out the door much too quickly. Did Google do this to beat the iPad 2 in the market race? We all know it will still easily sale millions.. they could've waited.
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i am using my bt keyboard on the xoom. honeycomb is quite e finished product in terms of its normal use. ive not had one freeze or rrreboot. i had one force close becasue i tried to run a rdp/vnc app. it force closed and i move to next app which did work for controlling my pc. you have people on here either talking without owning the product or loading things not designed or updated for this hardware OR software. such as flashlight apps, launchers, etc. ive used all the apps designed for tablets in the market and ive had no issues. ive played the couple of free games (which performed quite well) and used things as simple as the weather app. smooth sailing. i WOULD like to see more apps (like dish networks sling app) but thats not moto or googles fault.
the bugs ive read about in most topics dont happen to me. im gonna be testing the 720 rip playback later as i havent moved much media to mine yet.
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keitht said:
I have had mine since the doors opened at Costco here in South Florida and I have not had one freeze or force close. I think people may be loading up apps that are not designed for Honeycomb causing issues. For the most part, I am sticking to Honeycomb apps only with a few exceptions. I am also not loading alternate launchers like ADW. I suspect loading things like this will cause problems.
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Hey, I was first in line at my South Fla Costco...lol. You must have gone to Flagler.
I've had a few FC's but I'll admit they were mainly on the first day. Since then I've been good.

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Apple doesn't release products before they are ready? Really? Have you used an iPhone 4 and tried to make a phone call? Did you used an Ipad when it first came out? It had no software for it. Once competition comes and millions of people buy android tablets, the developers will come.
While I agree I would of prefered and more polished Honeycomb, there are ALWAYS growing pains with new technology...especially with brand a new OS. My xoom, like wine, will only get better with age.
Just give it time. It isn't a half assed product....it just needs some software updates. Lets all be happy that soon the mod community is going to do things with it that won't be possible with other devices.
Sent from my Xoom using XDA App
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The iPhone4 was a design decision. Had they waited 3 more months it still would have had that same problem.
The iPad had over a thousand third party apps at launch, what are you talking about?
And Android isn't going to compete in the tablet world by releasing beta tablets with buggy software. A normal user would have returned the Xoom after seeing 7 apps at launch, no flash at launch, non functional SD card slot, buggy OS and apps force closing. If normal users see this as their first impression of a Google tablet, that will stick with them for a while. The "early adopter" nonsense is absolutely the worst argument that anyone could make.

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Hey, I was first in line at my South Fla Costco...lol. You must have gone to Flagler.
I've had a few FC's but I'll admit they were mainly on the first day. Since then I've been good.
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I went to Pompano Beach Costco. The Verizon guy there gave me trouble with the activation thing. I had to keep pushing him to call more people. Each person he called at Verizon didn't know about the change that activation is not required. Hopefully I helped anyone that came after me

I had two freezes while playing cordy. There was an update for it yesterday that seems to have fixed it. Other than that I have not had any stability issues, just some minor graphical issues.
As far as Apple stability goes am I the only one old enough to remember the axiom "never buy a first Gen apple product."? Apple is somewhat notorious for problems with first Gen products.
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muyoso said:
The iPhone4 was a design decision. Had they waited 3 more months it still would have had that same problem.
The iPad had over a thousand third party apps at launch, what are you talking about?
And Android isn't going to compete in the tablet world by releasing beta tablets with buggy software. A normal user would have returned the Xoom after seeing 7 apps at launch, no flash at launch, non functional SD card slot, buggy OS and apps force closing. If normal users see this as their first impression of a Google tablet, that will stick with them for a while. The "early adopter" nonsense is absolutely the worst argument that anyone could make.
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I'm glad you knew this, I was starting to think I had no argument.

JanetPanic said:
I had two freezes while playing cordy. There was an update for it yesterday that seems to have fixed it. Other than that I have not had any stability issues, just some minor graphical issues.
As far as Apple stability goes am I the only one old enough to remember the axiom "never buy a first Gen apple product."? Apple is somewhat notorious for problems with first Gen products.
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I think you can say the same with most companies that release version 1 products.

Eclair~ said:
I read a post yesterday, I can't remember by who, saying that this "Early Adopter" argument is invalid. I believe it was because it would be easy for all tech-companies to take advantage of this and release crappy products that they know consumers will eat up and look past the issues because they know they are "early adopters". As much as I don't like to repeatedly mention Apple, it doesn't seem that they release products riddled with bugs and expect their consumers to shrug it off and say "Oh yea, we're just early adopters, these bugs don't matter!".
Nothing can be perfect obviously, but things can be more perfect than others. Why release something so unfinished when you can release it later in a more complete state? I don't have a Xoom yet, but it seems that Honeycomb was rushed out the door much too quickly. Did Google do this to beat the iPad 2 in the market race? We all know it will still easily sale millions.. they could've waited.
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Obviously they could have waited, its about supply and demand. The demand was there, so they got it out as fast as they could in working order. It has its problems, software problems, I love it it and didnt want to wait a day longer. They know what they're doing, google isn't Microsoft lol. It works, we want it, were willing to sacrifice a little functionality to be able to have it now, we love it , if you don't like the problems then thats your problem dont cry about i, either don't get one or wait to get one, everyone who bought it knew for the most part what types of problems we might come across, nobody is making you buy it nor keep it! You have no right to speculate on why they should or should not have released it like this, only the right to not buy or use it

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Obviously they could have waited, its about supply and demand. The demand was there, so they got it out as fast as they could in working order. It has its problems, software problems, I love it it and didnt want to wait a day longer. They know what they're doing, google isn't Microsoft lol. It works, we want it, were willing to sacrifice a little functionality to be able to have it now, we love it , if you don't like the problems then thats your problem dont cry about i, either don't get one or wait to get one, everyone who bought it knew for the most part what types of problems we might come across, nobody is making you buy it nor keep it! You have no right to speculate on why they should or should not have released it like this, only the right to not buy or use it
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sorry but a user has every right to gripe about the limitations of the product they purchased.
Google has a history of releasing buggy products, and improving them over time. its just how they do it. (a la google tv, nexus one launch, etc) does that make them a bad company? no. but to a mainstream (non techie) user who uses the product as is, the xoom out of the box is somewhat of a disappointment because of some basic feature limitations at launch. (no software sd support, no flash support, lack of proper video encoding support, which is a surprise as Google is normally great with cross compatibility). I personally feel that the Xoom launch was rushed in order to get as many early adopter sales before the iPad2 hits. I'm verrry sure that had the xoom been released the same time as iPad2 launch date, xoom sales numbers would be much lower.
i was an avid iPad user (gave it away), and currently awaiting for the xoom to arrive in the mail. i'm looking forward to using it.

What you are totally missing is the fact that the majority of apps look and work just fine. None of this "2x" bull crap that apple did with there tablet launch. I ask, did you purchase an Ipad when it first came out? Do you own a Xoom? If no to one or both counts, you lose some credibility with your argument.
No one is giving Motorola or Google a pass, but there is some kind of understanding with new gear. That is not an excuse, but something to take into account. I personally love xoom, both for what is and what it can and will be. You want a completely bug free and flawless piece of equipment, make it yourself. If you have ever ran your own company, you would know that every prouduct and system goes through some level of growing pains.
Too many people think the xoom is supposed to magically outsell the I pad...which will never happen. Apple, if nothing else has done an AMAZING job at marketing and creating demand for their sometimes sub par, at least technologcally, products. That being said, android is picking up steam and offering a solid competition to the ios system. Does it still have a ways to go...sure. But it is heading that way and things are only going to get better from here.
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aohus said:
sorry but a user has every right to gripe about the limitations of the product they purchased.
Google has a history of releasing buggy products, and improving them over time. its just how they do it. (a la google tv, nexus one launch, etc) does that make them a bad company? no. but to a mainstream (non techie) user who uses the product as is, the xoom out of the box is somewhat of a disappointment because of some basic feature limitations at launch. (no software sd support, no flash support, lack of proper video encoding support, which is a surprise as Google is normally great with cross compatibility). I personally feel that the Xoom launch was rushed in order to get as many early adopter sales before the iPad2 hits. I'm verrry sure that had the xoom been released the same time as iPad2 launch date, xoom sales numbers would be much lower.
i was an avid iPad user (gave it away), and currently awaiting for the xoom to arrive in the mail. i'm looking forward to using it.
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You just contradicted yourself, you said
1. They have the right to complain about the product being released too early
2. Google has a history of releasing buggy products
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They have no right to complain, they knew in advance or they don't possess the ability to think
Also, you can just return it.... but no *****ing about the obvious is a better idea

Well, the no software argument is pointless, you'll have to wait here. Phone Android didn't start with that much apps either, same for iPhone, Windows, any OS.

[INFO] asus needs to provide better support

We need to know the status of when these devices will get upgrades.
At least fix the bugs.

I would recommend changing the 'a' in your name to 'o'

mmoran27 said:
We need to know the status of when these devices will get upgrades.
At least fix the bugs.
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"Hey look I am another person who doesn't search the forum and *****es about things that have been addressed and handles a million times".
They have stated when they're updating every time, now shut up and go away.

another smartass
OK smartass when is 3.1 coming for the ASUS?
I guess you know that because they told you right?
You are the moron.

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OK smartass when is 3.1 coming for the ASUS?
I guess you know that because they told you right?
You are the moron.
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3.1 got announced TODAY.
Asus has said when THEIR next update will be. Stop being an idiot. OH NO THEY DIDN'T ANNOUNCE THE UPDATE 2 SECONDS AFTER GOOGLE ANNOUNCED 3.1 **** THEY DON'T KEEP US UP TO DATE.

When is their next update?

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When is their next update?
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within 2 weeks.

seshmaru said:
within 2 weeks.
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Thanks!
Did they provide any details about it? Would you have a link by any chance?

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Thanks!
Did they provide any details about it? Would you have a link by any chance?
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Eh there's info on this forum and on the Anandtech review, an asus rep said they were putting out bug fixes, probably a new dock firmware, changes to android and kernel, changes to myLibrary app, and they said generic tweaks as well.

Ahhh the under-used search function. Rest in peace my dear departed friend, under your mountain of dust.

Next he will want Asustek to announce the exact date they will release the Tegra 9 tablet.

Ah, y'all are being too hard on the guy...
Asus DID sell a dock that more than half of recipients can't even use and haven't made an official statement, let alone provided a date for the fix.
Sure, it's nice they're on the forum but frankly the dock shouldn't have even shipped in the state it's in.
They also released the tablets with varying firmware (including 2.2!), the wrong firmware for certain areas causing Transformers to brick, light bleed problems, dust under the screen issues, creaking issues...
And that was for the people who could find one!
And then they posted on Facebook how much we loved them.
Not a stellar launch!
(P.S. I do like my Transformer. But I want my damn dock fixed ASAP! )

bleclair said:
Ah, y'all are being too hard on the guy...
Asus DID sell a dock that more than half of recipients can't even use and haven't made an official statement, let alone provided a date for the fix.
Sure, it's nice they're on the forum but frankly the dock shouldn't have even shipped in the state it's in.
They also released the tablets with varying firmware (including 2.2!), the wrong firmware for certain areas causing Transformers to brick, light bleed problems, dust under the screen issues, creaking issues...
And that was for the people who could find one!
And then they posted on Facebook how much we loved them.
Not a stellar launch!
(P.S. I do like my Transformer. But I want my damn dock fixed ASAP! )
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Uh, they did release info about the dock update, but I guess you as well are plagued by the inability to use the search function or google. They have given a timeframe for a new dock firmware, also if you bought the dock thinking there wouldn't be issues, maybe you should have read a review first. Personally I'd rather have a buggy dock than no dock so witholding them completely doesn't really do you any good since then you wouldn't have a dock at all.
The bricking update yeah, they dun goofd on that. But they did give the people affected speedy RMA's and kept in contact with them, even on a seperate forum unaffiliated with Asus.

Really, show me an official link? I've read unofficial postings, but nothing firm.
Also, yeah, sorry that I assumed that Asus wouldn't ship something so broken. I mean, heaven forbid I'd want to USE what I paid for.....

bleclair said:
Really, show me an official link? I've read unofficial postings, but nothing firm.
Also, yeah, sorry that I assumed that Asus wouldn't ship something so broken. I mean, heaven forbid I'd want to USE what I paid for.....
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Reading reviews before you buy is difficult I heard. I guess it is if you can't use google like just about 60% of the users on this forum. It was your decision to buy it, and your fault for disregarding the warnings in reviews. No one forced you.

Uh, the reviews I read said that Asus would have the issues sorted out before it was released.
And I guess it's okay with you that it was shipped with this many problems?
You're always sticking up for Asus like everything is perfect. Is that your job? Maybe you should go back to work before your manager at Asus catches you surfing.
I mean, I love my tablet. Just in no way shape or form was this launch done well. And I haven't seen a product shipped as broken as the dock in a long time... It's UNUSABLE right now for many people. (More than HALF if our little poll is accurate.)
I understand where people are coming from with their dissatisfaction. Asus should have NOT SOLD the docks until the issues were fixed, or they had a DAY ONE patch ready.
P.S. Where's that official link?

bleclair said:
Uh, the reviews I read said that Asus would have the issues sorted out before it was released.
And I guess it's okay with you that it was shipped with this many problems?
You're always sticking up for Asus like everything is perfect. Is that your job? Maybe you should go back to work before your manager at Asus catches you surfing.
I mean, I love my tablet. Just in no way shape or form was this launch done well. And I haven't seen a product shipped as broken as the dock in a long time...
P.S. Where's that official link?
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I don't stick up for Asus about nearly everything, the tablet has designflaws which causes issues for some users which is bad. Some build quality issues, their regular tech support is ****, their advertising is bar none, their update bricked devices.
And I didn't read any review that stated the dock would launch without issues or that Asus had said it would launch without issues. Then again I read a lot of reviews since I get my hands on a lot of tech so I generally know which reviews are accurate.
Also shipping with problems is better to me than not shipping at all. Look at the viewsonic g tab, it launched with a **** stock OS which is unusable and still is. LG has unusable software on 2 of their devices. iPads come with light bleed and wifi issues, Xoom comes without a functioning microSD slot, with a lot of products there are problems at launch, but the important problems are the ones that can't get fixed through software. The fact is if you had read a credible review you would have known the dock was buggy but would get an update in the following weeks of the release.
Also a confirmed Asus rep making a statement is generally enough since Asus reps have generally been pretty forward about updates. Anand also stated an update would be on it's way. But I guess using a search is difficult

Thanks for the well thought out response! And I do use the search...
I just don't count anything on this forum as official.. I consider official as on Asus' pages, or an official press release by them, etc.
Anyway, it's a great piece of hardware for the price! I hope they get everything sorted out quickly. I'd really like to be able to use my dock.

You guys are complaining about the dock while many of us don't even have a chance of touching it!!!
I would rather have it now and wait for the incoming update.

I think Microsoft should now tell us when we can expect a updated skype with video calling ability. How irresponsible of them. right, eh, OP???

Acer Official Statement on Facebook: A500 Update to 3.1 at the End of June

There have been some threads posted on the impending update of the A500 to Honeycomb 3.1 from various sources, but Acer itself just posted this on its Facebook Page:
Acer
Great news for the lucky owners of Acer Iconia Tab A500! The update to Android 3.1 will be available at the end of June! Stay tuned for the date of release, in the meantime see the new features in the official Android developers’ blog:

Great news. I only wish the update would come sooner!
They sure are getting a lot of hateful comments on there, sheesh. Facebook comments are the new Youtube comments, I guess.

At least we know they mean to keep up with everyone with updates.

yeah we've know about a june update since the device came out.

If the sleep mode issue is not fixed for another month and a half, it will hurt sales and accumulate a lot of returns.
Ace has a huge opportunity to gain tablet share and are mucking it up by not fixing the issue now. The recent 23mb update some have been getting apparently does not fix the issue.
The A500 is a sleep mode fix away from awesome, but needs to fix it to get there. Well, that and the unstable wifi in low signal areas.

rushless said:
If the sleep mode issue is not fixed for another month and a half, it will hurt sales and accumulate a lot of returns.
Ace has a huge opportunity to gain tablet share and are mucking it up by not fixing the issue now. The recent 23mb update some have been getting apparently does not fix the issue.
The A500 is a sleep mode fix away from awesome, but needs to fix it to get there. Well, that and the unstable wifi in low signal areas.
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I am aware people have reported the sleep and Wi-Fi issues, but not all of the Acer A500 tablets are experiencing these problems. I know because I own an A500 and it doesn't have these sleep/Wi-Fi problems at all.

rushless said:
If the sleep mode issue is not fixed for another month and a half, it will hurt sales and accumulate a lot of returns.
Acer has a huge opportunity to gain tablet share and are mucking it up by not fixing the issue now. The recent 23mb update some have been getting apparently does not fix the issue.
The A500 is a sleep mode fix away from awesome, but needs to fix it to get there. Well, that and the unstable wifi in low signal areas.
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Rush, since you no longer have an Iconia (you claimed in another forum that you took yours back) do you think its cool to keep bashing the Iconia with your wifi problems lol?
Look, no offense Rush, you are a great guy and a great poster and all so no offense meant here. But my Iconia has none of the problems you have mentioned in about every forum I have seen you in. This is a pet peeve of yours that has started to spread everywhere you leave that egg. Anyway, I think your wifi issues are not representative of the whole. My son went out and bought 4 of them the other day and so far he has reported none of the issues (wifi) that you have had with them. He did however have one unit with dead pixels. At any rate, since you are no longer an Iconia owner, is it fair that you keep staying in the threads *****ing about them lol? Sorry if this bugs you, but its been bugging me for awhile now. And here is why.
I see a number of people coming in various forums that act like they work for the competition (not implying you do) and in a way I can see this issue about complaining about one issue you seemed to have with wifi and it turning people off the tab itself. Anyway, in my opinion you could have fixed your wifi issues with a repeater. Instead you moved your router around and were never satisfied with the Iconia. It either had wifi problems or the screen turning on bugged you too much. Me, its bleh, they will eventually update it and fix it. As for wifi, nothing can probably be done as that is probably a hardware issue. Remember the iPhone 4 issue with holding it wrong lol? Anyway, its a great tablet and I wish you would stop beating it down every time you post. Everyone knows about your wifi problems, so now that you have unasked yourself of the Iconia, why not just give that a rest lol?
Thanks Rush..
P.S. I am not saying wifi is not an issue either. What I am saying is that this happens even with PC's, Phones, mobile devices etc. If people have a problem with it, they usually buy a repeater to cover the areas that are weak. And no one really uses this as a major complaint everywhere they go about their product. I realize that some people want a better wifi in their boxes, but sometimes things are sacrificed to give people a better cost reward. Truth is humans are never satisfied, and we will always find something to ***** about. In my case, and I might be in the minority, I love my Iconia, and it has really lived up to the hype. Matter of fact I saw an Engadget report the other day on the Samsung Gtab, and it was said to be better than anything else, and the tests and all didn't even mention the Iconia. It was up against the Xoom and other tablets. And this thing had no HDMI out, no USB, no nothing on it. It was for all intents a beefed up Ipad 2 running HC. Anyway, what I am saying is they forgot to mention the Iconia, and left out that it is by far the better tablet out there as of now. Sure there are pesky things with it, but compare that to the Xoom launch of a product that wasn't even ready to be released, and at a price point that was far too high, and you get my drift. Buy a repeater and be happy Rush, this is a great Tablet lol..
Thanks

Have posted many times this is the best tablet for features and function and IMO better than the Trans and even stated I would get a third when the issue is fixed. First one, the main issue was unstable wifi with minimum wake-up issues and the second one was polar opposite of that.
Problem is "End of June" is long time to wait. My gTablet strains the eyes now, in comparison.

deedub334 said:
There have been some threads posted on the impending update of the A500 to Honeycomb 3.1 from various sources, but Acer itself just posted this on its Facebook Page:
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Great news for the lucky owners of Acer Iconia Tab A500! The update to Android 3.1 will be available at the end of June! Stay tuned for the date of release, in the meantime see the new features in the official Android developers’ blog:
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Where did you read it? Could you post the link?
Ah found it... Acer itself
http://www.facebook.com/Acer?sk=wall

Honeycomb or Acer implementation?
Maybe not the right thread but...
I haven't had the screen issues (waking up) but I am a little confused on the battery usage looking for a cell connection.
Is it a Honeycomb 3.0.1 issue or the implementation of the OS by Acer that is the issue? Seems to me a major foopah that anyone would release a product, clearly using a battery as it's source of power, and have a part of the system being wasted looking for a cell signal that wouldn't matter even if it was available.
On my unit, it says 7% of the battery use is consumed by the Cell Standby. Do the units actually have a cell radio??
Does anyone know if 3.1 will have a function to turn it off? Having to root, then rename system files especially without the means to recover doesn't strike me as a viable way to reduce battery consumtion.
Just my thoughts...

I swapped my and it worked great
rushless said:
If the sleep mode issue is not fixed for another month and a half, it will hurt sales and accumulate a lot of returns.
Ace has a huge opportunity to gain tablet share and are mucking it up by not fixing the issue now. The recent 23mb update some have been getting apparently does not fix the issue.
The A500 is a sleep mode fix away from awesome, but needs to fix it to get there. Well, that and the unstable wifi in low signal areas.
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Hey, I had a WiFi problem, it kept dropping out if the signal was about 50%. I took my A500 back to PC World 3 days after I purchased it and PC World replaced it. Ever since then I have not had any problems with the WiFi dropping out or any other problems.

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Hey, I had a WiFi problem, it kept dropping out if the signal was about 50%. I took my A500 back to PC World 3 days after I purchased it and PC World replaced it. Ever since then I have not had any problems with the WiFi dropping out or any other problems.
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The more the reports come in the more it seems to make sense that some "bad" units are out there. May be earlier firmware batches or just something bad on the IC board, but if a general firmware issue, a ton more folks would be having wifi and sleep issues.
Seems more a batch production/firmware issue, but WTH do I know (nothin')?

I'll take this moment to reiterate my my faith in Acer for providing future updates (a company highlighted as a close partner with Google at their recent I/O conference) and also my prediction that with the better USB host support in 3.1 the A500 is going to be much more attractive.

rushless said:
The more the reports come in the more it seems to make sense that some "bad" units are out there. May be earlier firmware batches or just something bad on the IC board, but if a general firmware issue, a ton more folks would be having wifi and sleep issues.
Seems more a batch production/firmware issue, but WTH do I know (nothin')?
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Hey, Rush. Did you try turning off you GPS on your last tab? Mine still wakes once and a while, but notice I have had a lot less issues with GPS off.
By the way it was your earlier reviews that made me buy the a500 instead of waiting for the TF. Thanks, because I love this thing. Never thought about how handy having USB host on the tablet would be. No way I could go back to a tablet with out that function.

Just throwing my 2 cents in...I snagged an Acer the other day, and I have to say its by far the best tablet I've played with. I haven't had any issues with WiFi or sleep really, although I have noticed the screen coming on randomly a few times in the week I've had it. Nothing that really seems unforgivable given everything else that rocks about this thing. I gotta admit, my previous tablet before this one was a Gtablet, and I do love it but the Iconia is better in just about every way. The HDMI out was not a big factor on my decision to buy it, but Angry Birds on my 46" screen is pretty awesome to watch. Anyway, I totally recommend this tablet to anyone in the market to buy, it blows away the Xoom and is way cheaper to boot.

used to support acer...now?

I just emailed acer to stress to them (as if they care) my upsets. I own an acer netbook that i loved. It was a good product, never caused me any problems that wernt user error. When i saw they had a tablet i didnt even hesitate to buy it. I figured it would be a great product like the experience ive previously had.
When i saw all of the hate threads about the bugs and lack of updates i patiently waited by with faith on acer.
3.2 is around the corner and there is still no "official" 3.1 update for most countries. There are still huge bugs in the open with no official fix. This is my first android device, and im disappointed.
I will most likely be looking for another tablet. One with support from its manufacturer. The support from the community here have been great though, so thank you to everyonewho contributes.
I may hang on to this device a little longer and see what happens but right now im feeling like i made the wrong decision when i bought this.
I dont normally make posts like this but i just felt like saying something.
/rant

n1nj4dude said:
When i saw all of the hate threads about the bugs and lack of updates i patiently waited by with faith on acer.
3.2 is around the corner and there is still no "official" 3.1 update for most countries.
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The 3.1 update is already released in many countries and others will get it in a few weeks. And to be honest, Acer told you that the update will come in late June, early July, so it's pointless to expect it any earlier than that.
There are still huge bugs in the open with no official fix. This is my first android device, and im disappointed.
I will most likely be looking for another tablet. One with support from its manufacturer. The support from the community here have been great though, so thank you to everyonewho contributes.
I may hang on to this device a little longer and see what happens but right now im feeling like i made the wrong decision when i bought this.
I dont normally make posts like this but i just felt like saying something.
/rant
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This is my first Android device too, and well, I'm actually very happy with it. A few niggles here and there, but those are all Google's doing and they'll exist on all the other Honeycomb tablets, too. One can only hope Google puts some effort into polishing it.
Still, there's no way in hell I'm gonna let go of my tablet.

Unless you can return the device for a refund/exchange I'd say hold onto it until Kal-El is out. That hardware is going to be nice and hopefully Google will have worked on the code side some too.

WereCatf said:
The 3.1 update is already released in many countries and others will get it in a few weeks. And to be honest, Acer told you that the update will come in late June, early July, so it's pointless to expect it any earlier than that.
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Many countries? Please do show me. And hacked roms/ ports dont count, i never said i expected it before the release date (which btw has not been 'told' officially for the US.) But the fact they are this many weeks behind competitors is bad for their business.
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This is my first Android device too, and well, I'm actually very happy with it. A few niggles here and there, but those are all Google's doing and they'll exist on all the other Honeycomb tablets, too. One can only hope Google puts some effort into polishing it.
Still, there's no way in hell I'm gonna let go of my tablet.
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For my first android device it isnt horrible, i just think acer could be doing a lot better.
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Unless you can return the device for a refund/exchange I'd say hold onto it until Kal-El is out. That hardware is going to be nice and hopefully Google will have worked on the code side some too.
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Thank you, i will do this. I honestly havent heard about this tablet till just now, after looking it up, its got my interest peaked.

Thank you, i will do this. I honestly havent heard about this tablet till just now, after looking it up, its got my interest peaked.
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Kal-El is the Tegra 3 chipset iirc. So not just any one tablet. Although unless Acer changes their bootloader stance I'll go with Asus' the next time around.

Patience is a virtue
wait until 5th july to start be upset.
and you expect what more???
for the price and the quality really!!!! this tablet is far better than some others all things compared... depends what you need.
I bought 2 tablets and 2 phone from ACER the same month. and I am purely satisfied with what I got.
I do not expect perfection at the first release... wait for the A100 or the future Iconia Tablet.... I think that will be something really awesome.

This is not the right attitude to have on xda!
Very few tablets have gotten 3.1 and none of the manufacturers has released it world wide.
Today we got the 3.1 update (unofficial) and the 3.1 kernel.
It is by all means a day of joy and the bootloader barely makes a difference. We got clockwork anyway!

Bec07 said:
This is not the right attitude to have on xda!
Very few tablets have gotten 3.1 and none of the manufacturers has released it world wide.
Today we got the 3.1 update (unofficial) and the 3.1 kernel.
It is by all means a day of joy and the bootloader barely makes a difference. We got clockwork anyway!
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What Bec said -
Had my tablet for two weeks now - used vcache's thread in the dev section to get the most recent OTA upgrade - rooted with modded Gingerbreak - removed bloatware apk's (and backed them up) and spent a couple days learning about the system. Thanks to xda - my tablet is able to pick up on a ad-hoc wi-fi network hotspotted from my cheapo VM Samsung Intercept (25$ USD a month for unlimited 3g - cannot do much better then that) - and I have perfect video playback for watching movies on the go (assuming I take the time to convert those pesky 720/1020 .mkv files to something the a500 can hardware decode).
16 gb internal storage - 32 gb on my microsd - 32 more gb on a USB stick I can plug in - this thing runs like greased lightning! Running the 144.07 official Acer version (as far as I can tell - early releases of 3.1 for this device do not yet support hardware decoding for video - i have been away a few days and this may be outdated).
Again - patience is a virtue. In the meantime - have you made sure you are running the latest OTA version and have you tried rooting your device and trimming away some of the fat? It is literally a 10 min fool proof process - the only thing you need to remember is to keep a safe backup of any system files you remove. Once Acer updates with another OTA version - you simply restore the system files and update. Very simple.

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Unless you can return the device for a refund/exchange I'd say hold onto it until Kal-El is out. That hardware is going to be nice and hopefully Google will have worked on the code side some too.
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And hopefully a nexus series tablet, thats my next tablet.......now to go sell some old toys of mine to get ready
Sent from my A500 using XDA Premium App

I i think I came off to strong. I don't hate this tablet. The device itself is great, and being a first time android user, I already like it more than ios.
And honeycomb 3.0.1 is not a bad firmware.
My beef is with Acer, maybe I was just expecting to much from them. And maybe they are slow to the gun for good reasons we/I don't know about. I just think as a company who is in direct competition with motorola and Asus they should be more responsive to what's happening around them. But again this is my opinion, and I know you all will have yours,
And I don't have an attitude directed at xda as a couple of you seem to think, xda community has done nothing but provide support and advice when needed. The short time I've been here I've learned a lot from many of you, so thank you. (Excuse my typos, my soft keyboard keeps force closing some reason)

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Have you checked out the OTA update thread in the dev section and made sure you are running a updated version? If anything - patching to the latest OTA dramatically improved my browser experience.

entropy.of.avarice said:
Have you checked out the OTA update thread in the dev section and made sure you are running a updated version? If anything - patching to the latest OTA dramatically improved my browser experience.
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Sorry I missed your first post, yes I am running the most recent version

Some fuel for the fire. Xoom JB soak test starting.

XOOM getting Jelly Bean. Soak test starting:
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/07/15/motorola-xoom-wifi-update-incoming-should-be-jelly-bean/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+DroidLife+%28droid+life%29

Why is this fuel for the fire? people that compare the XOOM getting jelly bean to the tf101 getting jelly bean really have to realize that the xoom was considered a google experience device which means it would be getting the os updates as long as it can handle them.....the tf101 while it does have a good track record is not a google experience device and is up to asus not google

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Why is this fuel for the fire? people that compare the XOOM getting jelly bean to the tf101 getting jelly bean really have to realize that the xoom was considered a google experience device which means it would be getting the os updates as long as it can handle them.....the tf101 while it does have a good track record is not a google experience device and is up to asus not google
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I agree with you100%. I'm just poking the small portion of anti-ASUS people that infect this forum. In reality, this is good news that the XOOM gets JB so quickly. In may force ASUS to reconsider any idea it may have not to upgrade the TF101, especially since the TF101 hasn't even reached EOL yet.

The only reason some people here might be considered "anti-asus" is because of the horrible job Asus has done with the testing and release of ICS for the transformer. I think many of us would welcome being a tester for Asus, if they'd do something along the lines of the soak testing that moto is doing for the Xoom. Asus might have found out earlier about some of the issues that still plague the TF101 for some, and perhaps they'd have been fixed long ago if that were the case.
Just sayin' ... .
As far as the Xoom getting JB, well, that's pretty much to be expected. I'm not sure I care at this point whether or not the TF101 gets JellyBean, but it would be nice to see Asus fix the problems some people are still having as well as get the new features of JB out to the TF101 users. I'm definitely digging JB on my GNex! Of course, by the time this happens, I may no longer have a TF101.

wingzero2085 said:
The only reason some people here might be considered "anti-asus" is because of the horrible job Asus has done with the testing and release of ICS for the transformer. I think many of us would welcome being a tester for Asus, if they'd do something along the lines of the soak testing that moto is doing for the Xoom. Asus might have found out earlier about some of the issues that still plague the TF101 for some, and perhaps they'd have been fixed long ago if that were the case.
Just sayin' ... .
As far as the Xoom getting JB, well, that's pretty much to be expected. I'm not sure I care at this point whether or not the TF101 gets JellyBean, but it would be nice to see Asus fix the problems some people are still having as well as get the new features of JB out to the TF101 users. I'm definitely digging JB on my GNex! Of course, by the time this happens, I may no longer have a TF101.
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If you want to be a beta tester or need real help, then send a polite email to Gary, with all the information they request, and you might be pleasantly surprised by their response. Of course if you repeatedly attacked him in here, don't bother.
I don't care either way whether ASUS releases their stock JB anyway. JB ROMS are on their way from the devs.
My Nexus 7 arrives today, so my TF101 will be on the back burner for awhile. I have no intention of getting rid of it though. It's running ICS at 1.4GHz flawlessly.

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If you want to be a beta tester or need real help, then send a polite email to Gary, with all the information they request, and you might be pleasantly surprised by their response. Of course if you repeatedly attacked him in here, don't bother.
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I think Gary made his point in 'that thread', however, at the same time he did make a rather large rod for his own back there too.
Communication is all in this game.
#just saying ...

SavCom said:
I think Gary made his point in 'that thread', however, at the same time he did make a rather large rod for his own back there too.
Communication is all in this game.
#just saying ...
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I had a HUGE problem with Gary when I bought my TF201 Prime that had the infamous "Unknown Serial Number" bug, and he proclaimed that a "fix was coming soon". AFAIK, the fix never came other than RMA. I didn't take to trashing him and his company on a daily basis, on a message board.

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If you want to be a beta tester or need real help, then send a polite email to Gary, with all the information they request, and you might be pleasantly surprised by their response. Of course if you repeatedly attacked him in here, don't bother.
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I've never trashed Gary personally -- my issues with Asus aren't personal and don't require personal attacks. Have I written posts that hopefully convey my level of irritation with Asus over their treatment of the TF101 since ICS was forced upon it? Yep. Got me there, I won't even deny it. My TF101, when totally stock, doesn't run a bunch of stuff that it should. Who's fault is that? Not mine. So, who else is there to blame it on but Asus? If you call posting about my bad experiences with my TF101 (which I have had since launch day, mind you) on a relatively regular basis to be trashing Asus, well then, so be it. Guilty as charged. But the Xoom getting JB soak tests certainly doesn't add any fuel to that fire. It's totally unrelated.
Pretending a problem doesn't exist doesn't make it go away, no matter how deep in the sand you bury your head. All Asus has to do is actually fix what's wrong with the TF101 -- if they do it with JB or another ICS update, I don't care. I'd be happy, and would happily renounce all of the ugly things I have had to say about them in the past 6 months. Til then, though ... not a chance!
I wish the Xoom testers the best of luck -- JB is a nice upgrade from ICS.

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I've never trashed Gary personally -- my issues with Asus aren't personal and don't require personal attacks. Have I written posts that hopefully convey my level of irritation with Asus over their treatment of the TF101 since ICS was forced upon it? Yep. Got me there, I won't even deny it. My TF101, when totally stock, doesn't run a bunch of stuff that it should. Who's fault is that? Not mine. So, who else is there to blame it on but Asus? If you call posting about my bad experiences with my TF101 (which I have had since launch day, mind you) on a relatively regular basis to be trashing Asus, well then, so be it. Guilty as charged. But the Xoom getting JB soak tests certainly doesn't add any fuel to that fire. It's totally unrelated.
Pretending a problem doesn't exist doesn't make it go away, no matter how deep in the sand you bury your head. All Asus has to do is actually fix what's wrong with the TF101 -- if they do it with JB or another ICS update, I don't care. I'd be happy, and would happily renounce all of the ugly things I have had to say about them in the past 6 months. Til then, though ... not a chance!
I wish the Xoom testers the best of luck -- JB is a nice upgrade from ICS.
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Don't worry. I wasn't speaking about you. Sorry if you thought I was. To be honest, I don't even remember seeing you say anything negative about ASUS. There's nothing wrong with posting your feelings and experiences with Asus. I can tell by your post count you couldn't have been too excessive about it. There's a certain other user that has posted over 2,000 messages in the last year, and almost all of them in a thread started by ASUS to help people having issues. I don't have to mention his name. Anyone familiar with this forum knows who he is. I'm sure despite his claims that he has me on ignore, he'll be replying shortly. :laugh:

In case anyone doesn't pay attention to the development forums, the first JB ROM is available for download. It's a work in progress, but it's a start.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1779133

And a cm10 preview
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1781861

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And a cm10 preview
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1781861
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I've never been a fan of CM, but nice to see. :good:

Cm has its quirks, Megatron has been my daily for a while now. Some very nice additions and modifications to cm9 without going as far as Aokp. With Guevors kernel and Megatron I have been very happy (I think quick apps should be integrated into all ROMs from now on)
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