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used to support acer...now?

I just emailed acer to stress to them (as if they care) my upsets. I own an acer netbook that i loved. It was a good product, never caused me any problems that wernt user error. When i saw they had a tablet i didnt even hesitate to buy it. I figured it would be a great product like the experience ive previously had.
When i saw all of the hate threads about the bugs and lack of updates i patiently waited by with faith on acer.
3.2 is around the corner and there is still no "official" 3.1 update for most countries. There are still huge bugs in the open with no official fix. This is my first android device, and im disappointed.
I will most likely be looking for another tablet. One with support from its manufacturer. The support from the community here have been great though, so thank you to everyonewho contributes.
I may hang on to this device a little longer and see what happens but right now im feeling like i made the wrong decision when i bought this.
I dont normally make posts like this but i just felt like saying something.
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n1nj4dude said:
When i saw all of the hate threads about the bugs and lack of updates i patiently waited by with faith on acer.
3.2 is around the corner and there is still no "official" 3.1 update for most countries.
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The 3.1 update is already released in many countries and others will get it in a few weeks. And to be honest, Acer told you that the update will come in late June, early July, so it's pointless to expect it any earlier than that.
There are still huge bugs in the open with no official fix. This is my first android device, and im disappointed.
I will most likely be looking for another tablet. One with support from its manufacturer. The support from the community here have been great though, so thank you to everyonewho contributes.
I may hang on to this device a little longer and see what happens but right now im feeling like i made the wrong decision when i bought this.
I dont normally make posts like this but i just felt like saying something.
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This is my first Android device too, and well, I'm actually very happy with it. A few niggles here and there, but those are all Google's doing and they'll exist on all the other Honeycomb tablets, too. One can only hope Google puts some effort into polishing it.
Still, there's no way in hell I'm gonna let go of my tablet.

Unless you can return the device for a refund/exchange I'd say hold onto it until Kal-El is out. That hardware is going to be nice and hopefully Google will have worked on the code side some too.

WereCatf said:
The 3.1 update is already released in many countries and others will get it in a few weeks. And to be honest, Acer told you that the update will come in late June, early July, so it's pointless to expect it any earlier than that.
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Many countries? Please do show me. And hacked roms/ ports dont count, i never said i expected it before the release date (which btw has not been 'told' officially for the US.) But the fact they are this many weeks behind competitors is bad for their business.
WereCatf said:
This is my first Android device too, and well, I'm actually very happy with it. A few niggles here and there, but those are all Google's doing and they'll exist on all the other Honeycomb tablets, too. One can only hope Google puts some effort into polishing it.
Still, there's no way in hell I'm gonna let go of my tablet.
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For my first android device it isnt horrible, i just think acer could be doing a lot better.
muqali said:
Unless you can return the device for a refund/exchange I'd say hold onto it until Kal-El is out. That hardware is going to be nice and hopefully Google will have worked on the code side some too.
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Thank you, i will do this. I honestly havent heard about this tablet till just now, after looking it up, its got my interest peaked.

Thank you, i will do this. I honestly havent heard about this tablet till just now, after looking it up, its got my interest peaked.
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Kal-El is the Tegra 3 chipset iirc. So not just any one tablet. Although unless Acer changes their bootloader stance I'll go with Asus' the next time around.

Patience is a virtue
wait until 5th july to start be upset.
and you expect what more???
for the price and the quality really!!!! this tablet is far better than some others all things compared... depends what you need.
I bought 2 tablets and 2 phone from ACER the same month. and I am purely satisfied with what I got.
I do not expect perfection at the first release... wait for the A100 or the future Iconia Tablet.... I think that will be something really awesome.

This is not the right attitude to have on xda!
Very few tablets have gotten 3.1 and none of the manufacturers has released it world wide.
Today we got the 3.1 update (unofficial) and the 3.1 kernel.
It is by all means a day of joy and the bootloader barely makes a difference. We got clockwork anyway!

Bec07 said:
This is not the right attitude to have on xda!
Very few tablets have gotten 3.1 and none of the manufacturers has released it world wide.
Today we got the 3.1 update (unofficial) and the 3.1 kernel.
It is by all means a day of joy and the bootloader barely makes a difference. We got clockwork anyway!
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What Bec said -
Had my tablet for two weeks now - used vcache's thread in the dev section to get the most recent OTA upgrade - rooted with modded Gingerbreak - removed bloatware apk's (and backed them up) and spent a couple days learning about the system. Thanks to xda - my tablet is able to pick up on a ad-hoc wi-fi network hotspotted from my cheapo VM Samsung Intercept (25$ USD a month for unlimited 3g - cannot do much better then that) - and I have perfect video playback for watching movies on the go (assuming I take the time to convert those pesky 720/1020 .mkv files to something the a500 can hardware decode).
16 gb internal storage - 32 gb on my microsd - 32 more gb on a USB stick I can plug in - this thing runs like greased lightning! Running the 144.07 official Acer version (as far as I can tell - early releases of 3.1 for this device do not yet support hardware decoding for video - i have been away a few days and this may be outdated).
Again - patience is a virtue. In the meantime - have you made sure you are running the latest OTA version and have you tried rooting your device and trimming away some of the fat? It is literally a 10 min fool proof process - the only thing you need to remember is to keep a safe backup of any system files you remove. Once Acer updates with another OTA version - you simply restore the system files and update. Very simple.

muqali said:
Unless you can return the device for a refund/exchange I'd say hold onto it until Kal-El is out. That hardware is going to be nice and hopefully Google will have worked on the code side some too.
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And hopefully a nexus series tablet, thats my next tablet.......now to go sell some old toys of mine to get ready
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I i think I came off to strong. I don't hate this tablet. The device itself is great, and being a first time android user, I already like it more than ios.
And honeycomb 3.0.1 is not a bad firmware.
My beef is with Acer, maybe I was just expecting to much from them. And maybe they are slow to the gun for good reasons we/I don't know about. I just think as a company who is in direct competition with motorola and Asus they should be more responsive to what's happening around them. But again this is my opinion, and I know you all will have yours,
And I don't have an attitude directed at xda as a couple of you seem to think, xda community has done nothing but provide support and advice when needed. The short time I've been here I've learned a lot from many of you, so thank you. (Excuse my typos, my soft keyboard keeps force closing some reason)

again
Have you checked out the OTA update thread in the dev section and made sure you are running a updated version? If anything - patching to the latest OTA dramatically improved my browser experience.

entropy.of.avarice said:
Have you checked out the OTA update thread in the dev section and made sure you are running a updated version? If anything - patching to the latest OTA dramatically improved my browser experience.
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Sorry I missed your first post, yes I am running the most recent version

Why is Acer slow releasing 3.1? The Toshiba is looking better every day.

What is the deal with Acer? I have not received an update to address any issue since the purchase. This is quite ridiculous. If there is no release to 3.1 before the end of the month as promised (unless leaked versions are considered releases) I think its time to try a different device, maybe the Toshiba. Or HP Touchpad since Google and the manufactures can't seem to deliver a fully operational product. As a matter of fact I'm frustrated with being a lab rat for Google tablets period, the phones are awsome. Well now that i have released some tension the title of this thread should be changed.
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Impatience has never served anyone.

The leaked version clearly isn't a final build, going by a few issues with it; especially on devices in the EU. Ever thought that, just maybe, they're having a few issues localising their mods with the updated codebase of Honeycomb?
Besides which, 3.1 isn't as big a change over 3.0.1 as you might think.

Had Acer and Transformer since day 1. Been very patient.
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I guess I would rather have the gps, WiFi, and screen wake issues resloved. Everyone knows you under promise and over deliver. So Acer should say " we will relaease 3.1 in mid to late july" and actually have it pushed out 1st week of July. Therefore beating and meeting customers expectations. If Acer has a fix for their issues then release them. I can understand it may take time to address Honeycomb issues but things like the screen, wifi, and gps should have been addressed. Oh and cell standby should really be a priority.
FloatingFatMan said:
The leaked version clearly isn't a final build, going by a few issues with it; especially on devices in the EU. Ever thought that, just maybe, they're having a few issues localising their mods with the updated codebase of Honeycomb?
Besides which, 3.1 isn't as big a change over 3.0.1 as you might think.
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qhinton said:
I guess I would rather have the gps, WiFi, and screen wake issues resloved. Everyone knows you under promise and over deliver. So Acer should say " we will relaease 3.1 in mid to late july" and actually have it pushed out 1st week of July. Therefore beating and meeting customers expectations. If Acer has a fix for their issues then release them. I can understand it may take time to address Honeycomb issues but things like the screen, wifi, and gps should have been addressed. Oh and cell standby should really be a priority.
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Though the screen-wake issues should be easy to fix, the gps and wifi issues would probably require mW increases to the radios, which may or may not be possible depending on the chips and if they can be updated via user updated firmware (has Acer even shown these issues as future fixes?).
The N900 had an option to increase the mW of the wifi (did not help much), but is the only device I have seen that had the option in user settings.
I had all the common issues (screen-on, weak wifi and gps), so returned the A500 and will wait for an update that at least fixes the screen-on. Was looking at the Thrive, but am hearing mixed reports about the display (some reports are it is washed out and blurry-like). I am hoping these are minority opinions (or the A500 issues get fixed).

qhinton said:
What is the deal with Acer? I have not received an update to address any issue since the purchase. This is quite ridiculous. If there is no release to 3.1 before the end of the month as promised (unless leaked versions are considered releases) I think its time to try a different device, maybe the Toshiba. Or HP Touchpad since Google and the manufactures can't seem to deliver a fully operational product. As a matter of fact I'm frustrated with being a lab rat for Google tablets period, the phones are awsome. Well now that i have released some tension the title of this thread should be changed.
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Leave by all means just leave. no sense if your making these posts. Do you believe the CEO of Acer is going to respond. Even on 3.0.1 I has content can u tell me what life chaining features are in 3.1 cause I'm running 3.1 right now and nothing all that breath taking
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BrianDigital said:
Leave by all means just leave. no sense if your making these posts. Do you believe the CEO of Acer is going to respond. Even on 3.0.1 I has content can u tell me what life chaining features are in 3.1 cause I'm running 3.1 right now and nothing all that breath taking
Bad response. The OP was stating his opinion as a user which is important in these forums. Your response is in the same vain as the iPad fanboys "hear no evil, see no evil, say no evil". The OP has every right to his opinion based on his experience and should state it here. That's how we garner information. Regards.
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If we're talking about looks, the toshiba is one of the uglyest devices I've seen in my life! Such lack of taste and inspiration for design...
Best to get a developer board with 3.1 if you don't care about aesthetics or ergonomics and can't wait for one more week.
Also the screen bug is no bug. It's something you installed. Restore stock and it's gone.
And what wifi issues? Check your settings.
If I were you I'd be more worried about the manual than a minor update.

Bec07 said:
If we're talking about looks, the toshiba is one of the uglyest devices I've seen in my life! Such lack of taste and inspiration for design...
Best to get a developer board with 3.1 if you don't care about aesthetics or ergonomics and can't wait for one more week.
Also the screen bug is no bug. It's something you installed. Restore stock and it's gone.
And what wifi issues? Check your settings.
If I were you I'd be more worried about the manual than a minor update.
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I'm wondering if the screen-on bug is caused by a particular app i've installed too. The one that comes to mind is tweetdeck since it's constantly checking for feed updates, but I have no idea if there's anything in it

I for one will wait patiently, or possibly not so patiently(j/k) for Acer to release 3.1. I haven't really had any of the issues with the wifi or the sleep/wake issues at all. My wifi signal is always strong and I think my tablet has rebooted once unexpectedly in the time I've had it. As far as GPS goes, I got an OTA update from Acer about 2 weeks into my ownership that seemed to speed up the GPS fix 100%. Overall I'm very happy with it, but do look forward to resizable widgets.

so take charge
Flash your Iconia with one of the many awesome builds of 3.1 out there and make some changes - or have patience and wait for Acer to do what they do.
Even on 3.0 code base my tablet has been wonderful to me - if it's not working for you then perhaps the a500 is not the device for you.

You choose...
Be like Asus and release early, then cover up the mistakes with 80,000 updates.
Be like Acer and release late, vetting the release before making it public.
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maybe I will, especially if the the screen wake and cell standby isnt addressed. Just think how much longer the battery would last. I guess what I'm really confused about too is how some people received updates to fix issues, but most didn't? WTF. Updates should be on their website available for download. The tablet is solid and the best as of now, but my gripe is with time it has taken to address issues. Acer is slowly losing traction and needs to improve by showing better support to customers that spent 500 on their device.

rorytmeadows said:
You choose...
Be like Asus and release early, then cover up the mistakes with 80,000 updates.
Be like Acer and release late, vetting the release before making it public.
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That doesn't make any sense since people are using Asus's 3.1 on the Acer and loving it. On the other hand the Asus is cheap with a ton of quality issues.

rorytmeadows said:
You choose...
Be like Asus and release early, then cover up the mistakes with 80,000 updates.
Be like Acer and release late, vetting the release before making it public.
Sent from my A500 using XDA Premium App
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Or, return the device and a wait
for the OEM to fix the issues.

as far as I'm concerned, all the issues that sock 3.0 had were completely insignificant. I've been getting great wifi reception, and the cell was so simple to fix it's not even worth complaining about.
If you want a 100% purified experience, go get an iPad. If you want something that you'll be able to do what you want with (including fix issues), stay with the A500.

Norsky said:
Bad response. The OP was stating his opinion as a user which is important in these forums. Your response is in the same vain as the iPad fanboys "hear no evil, see no evil, say no evil". The OP has every right to his opinion based on his experience and should state it here. That's how we garner information. Regards.
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And we're also free to state our own opinions about others' opinions as well.

Trolling is not an opinion, just like swearing is not free speech.

Bec07 said:
Trolling is not an opinion, just like swearing is not free speech.
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On the contrary, swearing IS free speech, possibly the best expression of free speech..
After all, WHO gets to define what is swearing anyway.
I've been in some forums and got banned for saying "hell" when some moron said I should say " H - E - double hockey-sticks".
Is 'bloody' swearing (it probably IS in USA bible-belt towns), "bugger", etc.
Swear words come and go (I was told I was showing my age because I said "sod").
No one has the right to define 'swearing' for someone else, hence it becomes free speech to swear!.

Did ASUS cancel ICS on Transformer?

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Hi, I saw some post on ASUS UK and ASUS Northamerica Facebook, that ASUS canceled the ICS on the TF101, because of lack of resources with the ongoing ICS problems on tshe prime.
Can somebody confirm this, or is it just a rumor?
http://www.facebook.com/asus.n.america?sk=wall&filter=1
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Samuel Müller So sad, ASUS stopped ICS development for the TF101. Yesterday I called a ASUS Service Centre in the US, after been switched a few times, I got a service technician on the line. On my ICS questions he told me because the trouble with TF Prime they have no resources left for the Original Transformer TF101.
After the ASUS ICS announcement for the TF101 last October, the release was postponed many times and ASUS Singapore told the customers, that the prime and the TF101 get ICS the same day. Then it was postponed again to mid February and again to February/March. ASUS stopped the ICS adjustments for the TF101 in the middle of January. They where not able to handle both transformer, because of lack of resources then they stopped the ICS port for the TF101 completely. This is also the main reason why there was no official statement and confusion all over. Like · Comment · 2 hours ago ·
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Colin Willson I find this hard to believe, but at the same time it must be true. For Asus to not update an 8 month old product is terrible business. Asus has proven they are a horrible company. If this is true they should be ashamed if they don't release what they have done so far. about an hour ago · Like
Samuel Müller I agree, I was waiting desperately for ICS to install the new Google Chrome, and working VPN to OpenVPN and I wanted to use the camera and the mic with Skype. about an hour ago · Like · 1
Eddy Wolfyzero even if u do say that, and there might be a port to install ICS separately, is not the official and real version they mention, and as far I know in the US, if they don't give us something they did mention on package and online, it's a
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I don't think "Samuel Müller" speaks on behalf of Asus and neither does a random service tech.
I won't believe any of this until it's confirmed by Asus themselves in an official way.
Also, I find it highly unlikely that they would cancel ICS. It's supposedly almost done and the backlash would be huge.
Just another guy getting his couple of minutes of internet fame. Moving on ...

I don't think Asus is really that stupid (well, I've learned that there really are stupid people.. but still..) to lose customers over a "lack of resources" ? I'm sure they'd lose more resources in not pushing an upgrade which should be somewhere in their cost-benefit analysis. In any case, let's not forget that Apple is a master at marketing, and that this is a perfect opportunity to strike at one of their competitors.. I'm not saying that these guys work for Apple, but if I were in Apple's company, I'd be telling my marketing team to go run negative publicity on Asus (discreetly, because Apple must be seen as above the rest and therefore does not need to market against people) because this is an awesome opportunity.

This **** better not be true. Its not our fault the Prime is a POS.
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it is not true they posted a picture of a tf101g running the other day also stop making ics threads the very first post says not to make enew ics threads

It can be good news too, I can finally sell it without wait to the update.

Asus probably snagged many 1st time Asus customers with the TF101, by having some longer term support for the TF101, it encourages you to try them again in the future when the TF101 is ready for being replaced. Most people own their devices for many years, and are not the gadget obsessed junkies who change device at 6/12 month intervals.
So I am hoping this rumour and speculation is not at all true. Otherwise this is highly likely to be my first and last Asus product.

Come on people I can't believe you guys are falling for this crap. Some joe bloggs posts some crap on the us fb page and you lot take it as fact.
Mods please delete this tosh.

i agree to indie13, dont get panic cause of some posts of some guys.
just wait till next month, then we see what happened with the ics update

I wish they cancel ICS that way I'll sell my TF101 and get a Sammy and never buy a product from ASUS again...
Sony's already blacklisted

just as a little bit of personal experience:
I work in electrical retail and used the retailer numbers to contact Samsung regarding gingerbread for the galaxy tab 7" as it was the same situation for that tablet as it is ours now.
I spoke to a rep and someone from customer care and was told a time frame for the roll out........and to date its still not fully happened or if it ever will. If I.c.s has still not arrived by next Tuesday I will contact them through the same process but keep in mind the gtab scenario.
So the moral of the story is never believe what they tell you.

It's a bullsh#@ , asus south Africa just post a screenshot of t101 running ICS 4.0.3 ,
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...468483191.26839.113744172005221&type=1&ref=nf
Who wants to believe this trash talk?!!

xbs said:
I wish they cancel ICS that way I'll sell my TF101 and get a Sammy and never buy a product from ASUS again...
Sony's already blacklisted
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I would blacklist Asus too, but ****, they make good laptops/motherboards.

xbs said:
I wish they cancel ICS that way I'll sell my TF101 and get a Sammy and never buy a product from ASUS again...
Sony's already blacklisted
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Agreed, always look at the bright side people.

Aelyus said:
I would blacklist Asus too, but ****, they make good laptops/motherboards.
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Good stuff is still worthless if you have no love from the vendor. Mark my words, asus does not care about it's past customers, only seeing them as potential future revenue, that's why the newer, shinier stuff always gets the upgrade, but the older stuff (same general chipset, not that much different), screw those guys, time for them to upgrade. It's the exact same greedy corporate mindset that apple has.
I took a risk buying the Transformer, but now i'm wiser for it. Definately won't be buying ASUS stuff again soon, and my next tablet/phone will probably be a Motorola.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...68483191.26839.113744172005221&type=1&theater
stop this sh*t please, it insults your intelligence, guys. stop whining and wait.

Annoyed by ASUS

My problem is that I bought my TF101 last year around June. After god knows how many updates it was finally solid and fast. No more BSOD's, no more lagging, just a nice solid fast device.
Then ICS dropped. My TF101 now acts basically just like it did back last year when I bought it. Laggy, slow, BSOD/Reboots. Very very disappointing.
So yes I did revert back to the last version of Honeycomb and now my TF is back to awesome working order.
Disappointing that ASUS let ICS out in this form. It is not usable for me given that video performance is so much lower than HC. No idea why really.
I don't know if other Tablet vendors have these types of issues but there is no way in hell I am buying another nvidia based tablet. I notice the Prime owners are about as annoyed as me overall.

Sounds exactly like my situation. I have not investigated switching back to Honeycomb but I have been told I just need use the clockwork app. However when I looked into it 2 weeks ago I got a warning saying it was not approved for my device. Is a special version needed for the TF101?
Or better yet, is there a guide out there for doing this on the TF101?

Its amazing to me how many people were *****ing at Asus for not releasing it fast enough... Saying they'd prefer Asus just release it even if its not ready for prime time yet because the xda developers could fix it. So then Asus does release ICS, with a few bugs, and of course everybody is still *****ing. There is no satisfying people anymore.... If I were Asus I'd almost feel like "why bother?"

JesterOC said:
Sounds exactly like my situation. I have not investigated switching back to Honeycomb but I have been told I just need use the clockwork app. However when I looked into it 2 weeks ago I got a warning saying it was not approved for my device. Is a special version needed for the TF101?
Or better yet, is there a guide out there for doing this on the TF101?
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If you're rooted, you can use RecoveryInstaller to install CWM recovery.
Don't use the ROM Manger to install CWM Recovery.
a.mcdear said:
Its amazing to me how many people were *****ing at Asus for not releasing it fast enough... Saying they'd prefer Asus just release it even if its not ready for prime time yet because the xda developers could fix it. So then Asus does release ICS, with a few bugs, and of course everybody is still *****ing. There is no satisfying people anymore.... If I were Asus I'd almost feel like "why bother?"
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Haha, couldn't agree more.

redrol said:
My problem is that I bought my TF101 last year around June. After god knows how many updates it was finally solid and fast. No more BSOD's, no more lagging, just a nice solid fast device.
Then ICS dropped. My TF101 now acts basically just like it did back last year when I bought it. Laggy, slow, BSOD/Reboots. Very very disappointing.
So yes I did revert back to the last version of Honeycomb and now my TF is back to awesome working order.
Disappointing that ASUS let ICS out in this form. It is not usable for me given that video performance is so much lower than HC. No idea why really.
I don't know if other Tablet vendors have these types of issues but there is no way in hell I am buying another nvidia based tablet. I notice the Prime owners are about as annoyed as me overall.
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Did you do a wipe when you updated?

JesterOC said:
Sounds exactly like my situation. I have not investigated switching back to Honeycomb but I have been told I just need use the clockwork app. However when I looked into it 2 weeks ago I got a warning saying it was not approved for my device. Is a special version needed for the TF101?
Or better yet, is there a guide out there for doing this on the TF101?
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Really? I mean; all you have to do is read the sticky threads here to know about this stuff.
Is there a guide?
I mean srsly. You make me sad.

Have you tried the latest update? (One the was released two days ago)
I wiped data after flashing the initial ICS, and now with this update, everything is golden.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk

infazzdar said:
Have you tried the latest update? (One the was released two days ago)
I wiped data after flashing the initial ICS, and now with this update, everything is golden.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk
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Im going to wait until overclocking is available. No point in rushing I guess.

Best link I could find for the vipermod root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1516639
Latest links I could find for Recovery Installer (I could not test these since it is behind a firewall)
Gnufabio RecoveryInstaller
http://db.tt/W0Hil4Kb
Modified version with Team Rouge recovery.
http://db.tt/NBgiApdg

I prefer that they released this version - you don't have to install it if it's problems are too much for you. For me it works much better than HC for everything I use the tablet for.

redrol said:
I don't know if other Tablet vendors have these types of issues but there is no way in hell I am buying another nvidia based tablet. I notice the Prime owners are about as annoyed as me overall.
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I can't say for sure on their tablets. But Samsung & Sprint sure took their time upgrading my galaxy epic phone!
I was shocked and amazed that Asus patched ICS so soon! A patch like this for SamSprint would have and has taken months instead of meer weeks!
Anyway, just my 2 cents

Right now ics is the bleeding edge. Asus had issues with HC also. Give them 2 or 3 ics releases to get things straightened out. And remember this experience when jelly bean drops this fall.
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If I were Asus I'd almost feel like "why bother?"
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Because money & corporate image.

If it's that bleeding edge that it's not stable (which, let's admit it - it's NOT stable), then they should not have released it yet! These are not small or un-important bugs - I can't even keep the damn thing running for more than a day at this point!
I'm seriously considering going back to honeycomb at this point - the new ICS additions are nice, but not nice enough to give up stability...

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If it's that bleeding edge that it's not stable (which, let's admit it - it's NOT stable), then they should not have released it yet! These are not small or un-important bugs - I can't even keep the damn thing running for more than a day at this point!
I'm seriously considering going back to honeycomb at this point - the new ICS additions are nice, but not nice enough to give up stability...
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Mine is stable.

jtrosky said:
If it's that bleeding edge that it's not stable (which, let's admit it - it's NOT stable), then they should not have released it yet! These are not small or un-important bugs - I can't even keep the damn thing running for more than a day at this point!
I'm seriously considering going back to honeycomb at this point - the new ICS additions are nice, but not nice enough to give up stability...
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I've found that it's not stable only for people who can't be bothered to learn a few things. All 15 TF's and 1 slider of ours are all solid stable with ICS.

a.mcdear said:
Its amazing to me how many people were *****ing at Asus for not releasing it fast enough... Saying they'd prefer Asus just release it even if its not ready for prime time yet because the xda developers could fix it. So then Asus does release ICS, with a few bugs, and of course everybody is still *****ing. There is no satisfying people anymore.... If I were Asus I'd almost feel like "why bother?"
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Yes I called that on day one of the ICS rollout..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22910665&postcount=16

goodintentions said:
I've found that it's not stable only for people who can't be bothered to learn a few things. All 15 TF's and 1 slider of ours are all solid stable with ICS.
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That's what I thought too - it turns out that I just wasn't looking hard enough! It turns out that my tablet WAS rebooting during the middle of the night and I just never noticed it.
At this point, I've done everything possible and the problem still happens. Nothing to do with "learning a few things". Are you even SURE that your units aren't rebooting in the middle of the night? Are you checking uptime every morning?
I've now tried everything - even stock iCS with NO EXTRA apps loaded and the problems still exists (after a FULL wipe). Believe me, I've NEVER had issues like this before - it's NOT something that I am doing wrong -believe me.
I too thought that I didn't have the problem - until I took the time to actually check the uptime every time I turn in on!
My point is that is seems that the vast majority of users are noticing these problems - so if you don't have them then you either aren't looking hard enough or you are extremely lucky - either way, you are in the minority here...

Mine is rock solid with no reboots since ICS came out for it.

jlambeth1 said:
Mine is rock solid with no reboots since ICS came out for it.
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Are you sure? How do you know it hasn't rebooted? Have you been checking the uptime every time you use it?
Again, I didn't think I had reboot issue either, until I checked my uptime once and found that it rebooted 10 mins ago and I never noticed. It never reboots while I'm using it - just when it's in standby mode...

Depressing in this forum! ?

I have 2 tf300's and they both have been running just about perfect! I feel horrible about all the negetive experiences I keep reading about. I hope it gets better because its a great tablet.

I'm loving my tablet. It runs very fluid. Way better then I expected. No issues.
Whats the OTA all about? I am so happy with performance I'm scared to update!
Whats new in OTA?

If rooting is something you are interested, dont update before your you can dl voodoo OTA root keeper, and read the post in the development section

leroybrute said:
I have 2 tf300's and they both have been running just about perfect! I feel horrible about all the negetive experiences I keep reading about. I hope it gets better because its a great tablet.
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me and alot others went thru way worse than this with the prime. we feel the same way. best advice is don't let others dampen your great experience with device. don't let others try to convince you your tablet is defective like theirs. Reality is there will always be people who cry n complain. alot have valid reasons but some like to go overboard on the pity party. Then you will always have some devices that are going to be defective. That's the nature of the beast here, electronics. just enjoy your device n don't let the negativity get to you.

I happen to love my 300 honestly I think its better than the Acer a510 and the Toshiba excite 10. Apperently the excite has terrible light bleed issues.
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Well its nice to see a few people being positive. I was going to wait for the tf700 to come out but it was too hard to resist for the price. I had the a500 and I felt jealous of my son with the tf101 with keyboard dock. Plus I had both tf300's rooted and build props updated in 45 minutes. I wish my phones were so easy.
No regrets at all. I am ticked that my sons tf101 got an update today with face unlock and we don't have it. Lol. I love it on my HTC Resound.
PS. Its nice to see the quick updates with Asus. 2 updates on the tf101 in a months time is pretty cool in the android world!

I'm pretty happy with mine, thus far. I had to return the first TF300 I got because it had a flaky touchscreen, but the second one's been working well. The only problem I've noticed is that the sound occasionally gets scratchy. At first I though it was a software issue, but now I'm leaning to it being due to a contact shorting when you squeeze the screen, because I've heard it making that scratchy sound when I do that.
All in all, though, I really like this thing. I can't ever see myself being satisfied with an old-school laptop after this. Having the choice of using it as a laptop or removing the screen and using it as a tablet is just wonderful.

Agreed. While not without a few quirks, the overall experience has been fantastic!
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That's really pathetic, according to some suggestions here, we are suppose not only to enjoy but to keep a positive attitude towards our half-baked product. In a few words and based on the suggestions here we need to learn to deal with it and be patient waiting for Asus that eventually will get those issues fixed with a new firmware release.
If the tf300t were a $99 product I wouldn't mind, but I paid $399+$150(dock) for the fist tf101(RMA 3 times), $499+$150 for the tf201 preorder and now $400+$150 for tf300t.
I love ICS, and I love my tf300t as well and will keep it anyway to try new ROMs when they become available, but definitely will get a different brand next time(w/ different SoC, snapdragon or exynos), not Asus anymore.
My question to you would be.. would you tolerate a $550 laptop if it had half of the issues tf300t has.
Other than that I find it really hard to believe some of you have a 100% perfect unit.

jrsalda said:
That's really pathetic, according to some suggestions here, we are suppose not only to enjoy but to keep a positive attitude towards our half-baked product. In a few words and based on the suggestions here we need to learn to deal with it and be patient waiting for Asus that eventually will get those issues fixed with a new firmware release.
If the tf300t were a $99 product I wouldn't mind, but I paid $399+$150(dock) for the fist tf101(RMA 3 times), $499+$150 for the tf201 preorder and now $400+$150 for tf300t.
I love ICS, and I love my tf300t as well and will keep it anyway to try new ROMs when they become available, but definitely will get a different brand next time(w/ different SoC, snapdragon or exynos), not Asus anymore.
My question to you would be.. would you tolerate a $550 laptop if it had half of the issues tf300t has.
Other than that I find it really hard to believe some of you have a 100% perfect unit.
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I personally haven't found any issues with mine. All that people in this forum are saying is that if you aren't having issues, don't let the people who are having issues ruin your experience with your tf300t.

Yeah im running pretty good. No issues
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Doing great on my end. My 3rd Android device. Use to the quirks of the software now. Much more patient these days than I was 2 years ago. Very happy as far as the hardware goes.
Really have to take forums for electronics with a grain of salt. People get disgruntled, hyperbolic, and very fanboyish.

I just like to vent once in a while
I have several of these.
All of them I got just over a week ago, and I have vented in the forums regarding the size limitations with the internal storage, and not being able to route or install new apps to the SD cards. I really do think this was stupid on the part of the manufacturer to put such a limitation in the devices.
However" even though I vent a little bit, I also have perseverance that most do not. Give up really isn't built into my fabric. With that said I like these systems a lot, and I will go through some hoops to get them to where I want them.
So far I'm very happy with these, and my son absolutely loves his. A little too much in fact, at the point where he is on a break from the tablet for the next week or so until all his MCAS and finals are done for the year, hehe.
I think most people like these that have them - people just get frustrated when they have to deal with some of the standard Android issues like Rooting, and storage.
Performance wise the TF300T is a excellent little piece of equipment.
If Asus made them come with Root right off the bat, and removed the storage limitation issue with the SD card so you didn't have to implement a work around for it. I would push for my company to get these.
Currently my company hands out the iPads and Motorola Zooms to every one so we can develop apps for both markets.
I feel the Asus is a far better product aside from the Root and SD card issue.
The SD card issue is a deal breaker on the company wide side of things though.
All and all, I like mine
nordis,

I love my tf300. No issues at all.
What a great purchase!
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Also no issues here, had it two weeks now i think to this day.
well only issue is not getting an OTA update but that's pretty minor.

moisaal said:
If rooting is something you are interested, dont update before your you can dl voodoo OTA root keeper, and read the post in the development section
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I'm rooted, updated, and re-reooted. Thanks for the heads up!
Eveything still running great... I did find a .25" stratch on the screen once there was a completely white background it exposed itself to me. Its not too bothersome but my OCD claws at the back of my mind about it.

TXKSSnapper said:
I personally haven't found any issues with mine. All that people in this forum are saying is that if you aren't having issues, don't let the people who are having issues ruin your experience with your tf300t.
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Exactly, i havent had any issues either, so dont let people put you off too much. It is obvious that the people with issues are going to be posting more on the forums

jrsalda said:
That's really pathetic, according to some suggestions here, we are suppose not only to enjoy but to keep a positive attitude towards our half-baked product.
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You've got two options:
1) enjoy it for what it is
2) return it
I'll probably hang on to mine. Fact is, for all the QC issues that have arisen with this tablet, there's nothing else like it in the market today.
Yeah, if there were four or five other Tegra 3 tablet/netbook hybrid devices out there I might take mine back for the speaker issue and the display issue that's reared its head a couple of times since I've had it. But there aren't. And I'd rather enjoy this thing for the 98% of it that works the way it is supposed to than rant and rail and raise my blood pressure over the 2% that doesn't. You might not. And if you don't, then take it back. No sense in getting all worked up over a product that you can take back to the store for a refund.

I got mine today. Firmware updated and factory reset but seems slower now
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152 hours uptime no issues at all, much better than my 101 that I returned
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