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Previous Xoom owner with new Transformer; comparrison

I posted this in the stock thread but feel it would be better placed in its own thread to help those who have a xoom and are considering making the jump to the Transformer.
Got my phone order in to TD yesterday and the transformer showed up today!
Screen: Simply looks better however my finger doesnt seem to "glide" as easy as the xoom. However on the flip side I have already noticed less fingerprints.
Audio: not sure where the speakers are but the sound seems more like its coming at you as opposed to the xoom where the speakers were in back facing away from you, much improved.
Responsiveness: Maybe im crazy but the overall response time seems improved, especially when switching orientation. I also especially notice this in angry birds, when I restarted a level on the Xoom there would be a half second pause while it reloaded the level. On the transformer it restarts the level RIGHT NOW. I thought the Xoom lagged a bit because of all the apps I had installed but I have all the same apps on the transformer and have not noticed any lag whatsoever.
Weight: I knew it was lighter but didnt think I would notice. I was wrong, I noticed the first moment I picked it up. Granted I had the 4G Xoom so maybe the cellular radio made it heavier however it is very refreshing to have a lighter tablet.
Camera: This is the one place where the xoom wins, well kind of. Low light enviroments make a low light shot. The Xooms ability to have flash give it the advantage here. However I will say when there is enough light the transformers pictures seem to be a bit more "crisp". Video is the one area where the transformer falls down. The video is laggy (choppy) and I have a feeling this may be something that firmware can fix (Im still on the original factory firmware).
Wi-Fi: I am in the same location as where I had my Xoom tied into my office wifi. The xoom always read 3 out of 4 bars where the Transformer gets 4 out of 4 bars all over the entire building. I really think the Transformer gets better wi-fi reception.
GPS: The GPS radio in the Transformer is just as good as the one in the Xoom. It pickes me up spot on in a building where we have two steel roofs.
On Screen keyboard: I love the transformers on screen keyboard. Its like they actually put some thought into it. Its button placement is much more refined then the xoom. At first I didnt think i would like it but after 20 minutes of use I found myself being much more productive with the new layout.
Market: Both Droid market and Amazon App store immediately downloaded all my old apps so making the switch was cake. I was concerned I would have to individually re-download all my old apps but both app stores did a fantastic job of getting all my old apps.
The basic feel and operation of Honeycomb seems to be exactly the same. I LOVE the floating ice cube wallpaper and noticed on the Xoom whenever I had an animated background it slowed down the tab. This is NOT the case with the transformer, everything still seems fluid even with the animated background. It is not my intent to bash the Xoom but I paid $800 for it and spent half on this device and it honestly feels like a step forward. Granted I dont have verizon access anymore but found I always used wifi regardless.
Add all of this up and then take into factor you can use a dock that will give you full size USB, keyboard, mouse, a Micro SD card slot that actually works right out of the package and you have a no brainer. Absolutely thrilled I made the switch!
EDIT: added info after one full night of playing with it;
Well after a full night of playing with the transformer (as well as doing the firmware upgrade) I did come up with some more input
Audio: As others have stated the overall sound quality from the Xoom speakers are superior. Yesterday when i was playing with the device I was at work and couldnt really turn it up all the way. When you do hit max volume it is not very loud and is very distorted. At normal volume levels I think it sounds better simply because the speakers arent facing away from you. Now since I rarely run the tablet at max volume this shouldnt be an issue
Video recording: Yes the firmware did help significantly but it did not cure the problem entirely. The video now only slightly studders, which is somewhat tolerable. However my Xoom from day 1 took stellar video and never had an issue. Hopefully future updates will eliminate all studdering but for now the Xoom has the clear advantage in this area.
Battery life: Keep in mind I dont have the dock yet but the battery life on the Xoom is definately better. Not by leaps and bounds but it is noticeable. I played on the TF for 4 hours last night doing everything from video to firmware updated and I dropped to 40%. I did this same process when I got my Xoom for approximately the same amount of time and only went down to 60%. Perhaps its the floating ice cube background? Who knows, but for now the Xoom definately has the edge for now.
On screen keyboard: Yes I like the layout better on the TF but the input is slightly slower then the Xoom. Overall the TF seems more responsive but in this department the Xoom wins out. Again, hopefully this is something that is fixed in future updates.
Im trying to be as fair and honest as possible here so that I can help people make wise decisions. From my original post im still sold on the transformer over the Xoom but there are definately things the Xoom does better and vice versa.
Happy Hunting!

03stage2 said:
Screen: Simply looks better however my finger doesnt seem to "glide" as easy as the xoom. However on the flip side I have already noticed less fingerprints.
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Just FYI, this gets better. There appears to be a coating of something on the screen that disappears over time, or maybe the first time you vigorously wipe it down. I was worried because I found my finger skipping across the screen instead of gliding, but now it's normal. Maybe it's from the protective plastic the Transformer ships in.

i heard about that finger glide thing, take a micro fiber cloth make it very slightly damp and wipe the screen down

I'm mad you got yours already! I'm waiting on the UPS guy right now haha.
Thanks for the comparison!

dfin13 said:
Just FYI, this gets better. There appears to be a coating of something on the screen that disappears over time, or maybe the first time you vigorously wipe it down. I was worried because I found my finger skipping across the screen instead of gliding, but now it's normal. Maybe it's from the protective plastic the Transformer ships in.
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Agreed. I thought my screen was broken when I first used it.
This changes over time. If it doesn't, a screen protector will solve any problems.

The difference in wifi strength could be due to the fact that the Transformer doesn't have a metal back. I remember when the iPhone 1's had problems cuz of the metal back.
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You forgot to mention a huge selling point: the GREAT price.
I got a TF + dock+ sleeve + 16 GB memory card for LESS than what I spent on the wifi only Xoom.

strikethreeout said:
You forgot to mention a huge selling point: the GREAT price.
I got a TF + dock+ sleeve + 16 GB memory card for LESS than what I spent on the wifi only Xoom.
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I said in my conclusion that I spent $800 on the 4G Xoom and half on this tab. But youre completely right, even when I add the cost of the dock I am still WAY ahead of the game.

donatom3 said:
The difference in wifi strength could be due to the fact that the Transformer doesn't have a metal back. I remember when the iPhone 1's had problems cuz of the metal back.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk
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I did some tests last night and my Xoom was getting better wifi performance than my TF. I'm guessing any differences in either direction could be related as much to the router as to the tablet...

03stage2 said:
Audio: not sure where the speakers are but the sound seems more like its coming at you as opposed to the xoom where the speakers were in back facing away from you, much improved.
Camera: This is the one place where the xoom wins, well kind of. Low light enviroments make a low light shot. The Xooms ability to have flash give it the advantage here. However I will say when there is enough light the transformers pictures seem to be a bit more "crisp". Video is the one area where the transformer falls down. The video is laggy (choppy) and I have a feeling this may be something that firmware can fix (Im still on the original factory firmware).
Wi-Fi: I am in the same location as where I had my Xoom tied into my office wifi. The xoom always read 3 out of 4 bars where the Transformer gets 4 out of 4 bars all over the entire building. I really think the Transformer gets better wi-fi reception.
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I agree with most of what you wrote, just some clarification on these items:
Audio: I've actually found that my Xoom's audio is higher quality than my TF's. I don't know if there's variability between TFs, but the Xoom's is both richer (more base and midrange, I think) and louder (even without something behind it to redirect the sound forward). I did a test last night and found the TF's speakers to be very inferior to the Xoom's.
Camera: The newest firmware definitely improves video capture, so no worries there.
Wi-Fi: I did a test last night with the Xoom and TF, and actually found the Xoom to perform better. However, there are too many variables to say which is better. The TF's performance is just fine regardless.
And ultimately, the screen is SO much better and the keyboard dock really does seal the deal. For $399, I think the TF is by far the better machine and would be even if the Xoom were the same price.

I believe it is something to do with the Gorilla Glass

wynand32 said:
I agree with most of what you wrote, just some clarification on these items:
Audio: I've actually found that my Xoom's audio is higher quality than my TF's. I don't know if there's variability between TFs, but the Xoom's is both richer (more base and midrange, I think) and louder (even without something behind it to redirect the sound forward). I did a test last night and found the TF's speakers to be very inferior to the Xoom's.
Camera: The newest firmware definitely improves video capture, so no worries there.
Wi-Fi: I did a test last night with the Xoom and TF, and actually found the Xoom to perform better. However, there are too many variables to say which is better. The TF's performance is just fine regardless.
And ultimately, the screen is SO much better and the keyboard dock really does seal the deal. For $399, I think the TF is by far the better machine and would be even if the Xoom were the same price.
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Thanks for the input. For audio I agree the Xoom had more midtones but to me they were muffled and being priduced by a tiny speaker that has no business trying to replicate those frequencies. The TF is much more treble based and to me sounds better due to that. I still stand by the TF highs sound better overall though.
Thanks for the input on the camera. I see you can manually download the new firmware but my TF is so new I think I will wait for the OTA update as I dont want to risk bricking a brand new device.
Maybe I just got lucky on the wi-fi but it definately gets better signal even at distance. But as another poster stated sometimes wi-fi signal performance isnt always dictated by the using device as much as it is by the router itself.
Damn I love this screen....

wynand32 said:
Audio: I've actually found that my Xoom's audio is higher quality than my TF's. I don't know if there's variability between TFs, but the Xoom's is both richer (more base and midrange, I think) and louder (even without something behind it to redirect the sound forward). I did a test last night and found the TF's speakers to be very inferior to the Xoom's.
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i agree too, even the audio out is worse than the xooms. there's just too much emphasis on the highs. it also doesn't get as loud and distorts more at lower levels - this is all through the headphone jack, not onboard speakers.
i was hoping that audio out would be as good as the xoom as i thought the xoom was as good or possibly better than my ipad's output. i'd have to assume it's a software tweek since i'd guess they'd have the same audio processors.
one other thing about the tf - make sure you have fingernails if you like to insert and remove micorsd cards in this unit. i cannot replace my sdcard without something to push it back in after removing it.

Well after a full night of playing with the transformer (as well as doing the firmware upgrade) I did come up with some more input
Audio: As others have stated the overall sound quality from the Xoom speakers are superior. Yesterday when i was playing with the device I was at work and couldnt really turn it up all the way. When you do hit max volume it is not very loud and is very distorted. At normal volume levels I think it sounds better simply because the speakers arent facing away from you. Now since I rarely run the tablet at max volume this shouldnt be an issue
Video recording: Yes the firmware did help significantly but it did not cure the problem entirely. The video now only slightly studders, which is somewhat tolerable. However my Xoom from day 1 took stellar video and never had an issue. Hopefully future updates will eliminate all studdering but for now the Xoom has the clear advantage in this area.
Battery life: Keep in mind I dont have the dock yet but the battery life on the Xoom is definately better. Not by leaps and bounds but it is noticeable. I played on the TF for 4 hours last night doing everything from video to firmware updated and I dropped to 40%. I did this same process when I got my Xoom for approximately the same amount of time and only went down to 60%. Perhaps its the floating ice cube background? Who knows, but for now the Xoom definately has the edge for now.
On screen keyboard: Yes I like the layout better on the TF but the input is slightly slower then the Xoom. Overall the TF seems more responsive but in this department the Xoom wins out. Again, hopefully this is something that is fixed in future updates.
Im trying to be as fair and honest as possible here so that I can help people make wise decisions. From my original post im still sold on the transformer over the Xoom but there are definately things the Xoom does better and vice versa.
Happy Hunting!

03stage2 - In general I agree with your comparison. I've been using the TF and Xoom side by side for the last week.
Battery life: I've noticed the the TF battery drains faster when it's not being used, like overnight. The Xoom seems to use less battery when it's not doing anything. In active usage I haven't noticed a difference, but I use them for different things.
Screen Keyboard: I hated the Xoom OSKeyboard from day one, I almost took it back it was so frustrating. The Xoom does not seem to have the same level of multitouch. The TF keyboard has been much better, I can almost touch type with the TF keyboard.
I've already promised the Xoom to a family member as a gift. Now I'm debating selling the Xoom and giving them a TF instead (assuming I can get my hands on another one!).

wtf you said the TF was good then in blue you praise xoom

jerichoholic said:
wtf you said the TF was good then in blue you praise xoom
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If you read my comments in the end of the blue I still say the TF is better IMO. However I dont want to be one of those biased folks who simply promote the product they own. As I stated they both have areas that each one does better in but overall the TF still feels like the better choice to me. Also, the TF is so new that i have a feeling allot of the bugs im seeing will be corrected with FW updates.
I would hope that the folks here would benefit more from an honest review rather then sugar coating the review and making it seem like I had my own agenda....

I just wish I could find on in stock anywhere

jerichoholic said:
wtf you said the TF was good then in blue you praise xoom
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The Xoom has some advantages over the Transformer, obviously. I believe if they were both the same price, it'd come down to the screen.

Mikey450GT said:
I believe it is something to do with the Gorilla Glass
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I agree.
I have an iPad 2 with its "Fingerprint-resistant oleophobic coating" and the glass is so smooth and easy to slide your finger on.
I also have an ASUS EP121 Tablet with Gorilla Glass and i did notice a different feel than the iPad 2. It does get better the more you clean the glass.
I haven't got a Transformer yet but since it has Gorilla Glass, it should feel the same as the EP121.
Not complaining, just different technology.

[INFO] Let's face it honeycomb is not ready

I have had the Acer and Asus and honeycomb is weak. It's just too unstable, and the Transformer has too many quality problems. I tried to make the most of it, but today my Asus wouldn't boot up got stuck at the Asus screen. It's over, and as I look in this forum there are more complaints then then anything. Honeycomb is not ready and the Asus has serious quality issues. I'm waiting for webos now.
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Quite the opposite for me. Honeycomb has been very stable and no crashes.

qhinton said:
It's over, and as I look in this forum there are more complaints then then anything.
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That's because people who are happy with their tablets don't flood the forums with new threads. Honeycomb has been anything but unstable for me. No crashes. Sure, still has video problems but that's not Honeycomb's fault.

Honeycomb FTW!!!!!!!!! sucks these forums are a good spot for crybabies lol . * just bustin blz*

yes i ****ed up my TF, yes i bought another one that i will have the next tuesday, but i never had problems with HC.... ok i lied i had my FC and other stuff, but im a CE and im so USED to computers crashing and doing weird stuff, plus i only screwed up HC when i was trying to do some anime playback

cowballz69 said:
Honeycomb FTW!!!!!!!!! sucks these forums are a good spot for crybabies lol . * just bustin blz*
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I love honeycomb as well, not one crash so far. These threads are getting really annoying.

While I am liking it mostly, i think the iPad is much more polished. Things like txyping on this forum are painful. Typing with two fingers is faster than the tablet can display. Then there are the apps, even things like the XDA app consistently crash. I found many which work fine and seem to cover my needs nicely, I still find my self wishing for a more polished product. And that is just honey comb.
As for the hardware I think it is lacking optimizations massivley. Againg this is a look and feel issue, the damned TF has friggin sharp edges. Mine actually gave me a small aluminum splinter. Also the sharp edged holes at the bottom make it uncomfortable to hold sometimes.
There are good things though. The battery seems to be great. I really like the screen. The fact that there is a micro sd slot is wonderful. Overall the tablet is light and durable.
I told myself i'd give it a wek like i did for the Iconia. I like things about both but i think the iPad is a better product overall.

not seeing any instability...works fine here.

HC was stable for me. I would't say HC is not ready, I would say the HC ecosystem is not ready yet. Too little apps for HC tablets

quietas said:
While I am liking it mostly, i think the iPad is much more polished. Things like txyping on this forum are painful. Typing with two fingers is faster than the tablet can display. Then there are the apps, even things like the XDA app consistently crash. I found many which work fine and seem to cover my needs nicely, I still find my self wishing for a more polished product. And that is just honey comb.
As for the hardware I think it is lacking optimizations massivley. Againg this is a look and feel issue, the damned TF has friggin sharp edges. Mine actually gave me a small aluminum splinter. Also the sharp edged holes at the bottom make it uncomfortable to hold sometimes.
There are good things though. The battery seems to be great. I really like the screen. The fact that there is a micro sd slot is wonderful. Overall the tablet is light and durable.
I told myself i'd give it a wek like i did for the Iconia. I like things about both but i think the iPad is a better product overall.
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google its.... a bit bold on its modus operandi, they are developing hardware and hardware related software (AKA OS android) as if they were developing Gmail,and other aplications of google (and those are good), if you think about those you know what its comming its GOOOD
Ios its not bad, but... its simple and that helps a lot on the polishing part and its 4 year old too, its not bad i repeat nor old, its just more mature
EDIT: dont let the tablet fall, mine did hitting one corner and bye bye LCD, im still waitng for asus RMA

Itaintrite said:
That's because people who are happy with their tablets don't flood the forums with new threads. Honeycomb has been anything but unstable for me. No crashes. Sure, still has video problems but that's not Honeycomb's fault.
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True. I am one of the non posters who is thrilled with the Transformer.
No doubt Honeycomb has a little ways to go, but this is the first time that I have used a tab that, to me, beats out the iPad. Since I have had the TF my IPAD has just collected dust.
The quality issues are minimal and the benefits greatly outweigh them.
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Somethings are great. Most of what isn't will be fixed over time. Build quality issues will be resolved as different manufacturers get involved or TF 2 =)
Honeycomb apps overall can be slow though. Things like typing in this quick reply box are slow and stuttering, the halting cursor movement is very erratic. No netflix yet is annoying, but might be here eventually. In my mind I want the iPad polish on Android, but that will be in time. I'm 50/50 atm as to whether this goes back next week, if so I'll end up waiting to see what comes out this summer.

Honeycomb is awesome. I was slightly worried when I read all the initial reviews bashing the XOOM, but I've had almost no issues with it. In fact the Froyo and Gingerbread that I've had running on my phone is less stable than Honeycomb on my Transformer.

I would say that honeycomb and the transformer have both surpassed my expectations. I expected HC to have a lot more bugs than I have experienced. My first android experience was with an og droid on eclair, and until I started using what the dev community had developed, I would have killed to have my iPhone back.
I also purchased the original ipad when it came out and quickly returned it because it operated exactly the same as a big version of my iphone/iPod touch, which made it boring and usuless to me. The transformer, on the other hand, has been able to do anything that I have needed it to while also being fun. The transformer has really gotten more use than any other new gadget that I can remember, in the few weeks that I have had it. I also have not exprienced any of the quality control issues that are constantly talked about on here, other than some limited light bleed, which in my book can't really even be considered a defect.
I believe HC itself to be quite stable, as I have never had a crash/reboot. Many apps, even the supposed HC optimised apps, need some real attention to run well on HC but I don't blame the OS for that.
In short, I am very happy with HC and the quality of the transformer. The one thing that may bring me to ditch the transformer in the future is the lack of any way to use nvflash. I have partially bricked many phones and have had to use this method to restore them. Without it I don't really feel comfortable rooting and romming the thing, so for now I'm choosing to stay stock, at least until 3.1 and the constant FOTA updates are pushed out.

I'm enjoying my TF and HC more than I ever thought. I probably wouldn't have been as enthusiastic if I didn't have the keyboard dock, since typing on screen (on any tablet) is awkward. I spend more time with my TF now than I do with my laptops.
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quietas said:
Somethings are great. Most of what isn't will be fixed over time. Build quality issues will be resolved as different manufacturers get involved or TF 2 =)
Honeycomb apps overall can be slow though. Things like typing in this quick reply box are slow and stuttering, the halting cursor movement is very erratic. No netflix yet is annoying, but might be here eventually. In my mind I want the iPad polish on Android, but that will be in time. I'm 50/50 atm as to whether this goes back next week, if so I'll end up waiting to see what comes out this summer.
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The typing issue on this site and others built using the same base platform is due to how the stock browser handles it.. try switching to the classic skin or use Firefox.. works much faster IMHO this 'lag' issue has been mentioned here and explained many times now, and whilst its not ideal.. its a pretty isolated issue and not a real reason to generalize that 'the TF is laggy/HC is laggy' (IMHO of course - but then, I'm biased and love me my TF )

No crashes to me. Very stable OS. With 3.1 should be perfect.

qhinton said:
I have had the Acer and Asus and honeycomb is weak. It's just too unstable, and the Transformer has too many quality problems. I tried to make the most of it, but today my Asus wouldn't boot up got stuck at the Asus screen. It's over, and as I look in this forum there are more complaints then then anything. Honeycomb is not ready and the Asus has serious quality issues. I'm waiting for webos now.
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Goodbye, have a nice life!

People need to get real. You read the post just like me, I see complaint after complaint. It's a 400 dollar half baked product.70 % bad 20% good 10% don't know what to do with this thing. Good luck with the light bleed, Sharp edges, bad speakers, unresponsive screen, gaps in the corner of screen, vibrating plastic back when volume is full blast, buggy OS, no accessories available, really I want to like it too.
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Getting real.. my Transformer works just fine thankyouverymuch Only wearing the rose coloured glasses because it really does work (for me, and quite a few others it seems - though not all, I'll admit)
I'm sure you love your tech, and for that reason of course I'm disappointed that you're not getting the same experience as I am.. more satisfied customers equals a growing userbase equals more support and so on...
.. (although cheaper than the competition, the Transformer's RRP still isn't trivial and I can see why you'd hacked off), but those that are enjoying the transformer experience aren't deluding themselves that its something it isn't; we're evangelising for a reason (in our own honest opinions of course) ... I would probably be as disillusioned as you if I'd encountered the same problems, and by the sounds of it the blame (if you want to call it that) could be thought to lie with both Asus and Google.. however, for now.. i'm loving the tech, and didn't blink once when the reviews of another world beating tablet started coming out (Galaxy Tab 10.1) - this thing ticks all the right boxes for me
I guess you'll have to go with an alternative (Galaxy Tab 10.1, iPad/iPad2 etc.) or wait for something else that ticks all the right boxes from an o/s, usability, support, software library and build quality perspective..

I got mine and Im happy with it thread!

I read a lot on this forum but dont post much. I havent seen a lot of positive things about the the new Tab. I just have to say I am very happy with my purchase so far. I was able to walk into my local Best Buy after 6pm on launch day and pick up a white 32GB. Funny thing is the Website stated they had 3 white and 4 black 32GB and when I got there they said all they had was the black. To make a long story short the Best Buy employee actually had to open the box and look at the Tab itself to tell if it was white or black. Apparently there is no way to tell on the outside of the box(I would assume the model number would). Anyways, I have owned the Xoom,Iconia and the Playbook and none of them hold a candle to this. Honeycomb does have a long way to go, however I do think this is a giant step foward in the right direction.
Please leave your experience so far if you are happy

never had a tablet before so nothing to compare it to, but so far I really dig it!

Ill join you on the happy part. Ive had my tab since Tuesday and I'm loving it. I haven't run into any of the issues that have been posted in some of the other threads. I'm in love with the fluu blown multitasking. I can easily jump app to app without loosing a spot. Perfect for those copy and paste situations.
Some of my favorite apps...
News360/Pulse
Native YouTube app
Thumb keyboard (must have)
PlayOn (yay hulu and Netflix)
Weatherbug for tablets
Grooveip
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I just got mine today, too. White, 16GB
I asked for a Grey 32GB one, but they had none. I still wanted a Grey one, but even though they had it in stock, they gave me a white one, and I didn't notice till I got home. They even ran out of keyboard docks too. Oh well, I'm stuck with this one now.
After a few hours of use, I started to wonder about all the negative posts and reviews on XDA and everywhere else. I do notice certain points, like how browser lags when typing, but it seemed minor to me since I noticed that the key presses still recognized, and I was surprisingly accurate and fast using it, despite this being the first tablet I've ever owned.
Games are pretty and crisp. I've only experienced some minor lag in Plants vs. Zombies at the end of each stage, otherwise it played well.
A great experience so far.

i am happy with the tab but honeycomb needs some work.

I've had mine since *** yesterday *** and am happy with it. The one thing that I wish I could do is color calibrate the screen. While the bright, cartoonish color is liked by many, I would like to be able to calibrate the screen for more accurate color to display photos and play the videos that I shoot. Even with my 32GB unit, I am missing the microSD slot that I have on the Nook Color.

I'm very happy with mine. Sure, it has some issues, but nothing too bad and I believe most of them will be fixed by software updates in the future.

It's rather obvious, but all big smiles here too
Just to state a few, easy to the eye and ears(quality build, screen, speakers), easy to carry and hold(super light, thin, with textured back), responsive, fast and versatile OS (widgets thrive, google apps reign, multimedia a beauty to run, even if it currently has a few glitches like lag in typing in certain websites boxes).
Just loving it!

I'm loving it so far. Honeycomb does have some issues to work out.
One thing that is truly bothering me is the lack of quick controls in the browser.
The official accessories not being available is also annoying.
But man o man I'm loving the hardware ,the screen ,and the form factor.

I have a 16 grey and I'm very pleased with my purchase. At the time I wanted a 32 but best buy had none in stock. I also have an unlocked version so I'm scared to return it can't wait for some custom kernels to fix some lag this thing has. Other then that I am very pleased. Honeycomb does need work. Hopefully the touchwiz update fixes some lag. I no it usually just bloats the system but this version seems nice! A few software kinks but love it! Can't wait for ICS (open source) that should fix pretty much everything for ow though very happy
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This tablet will essentially replace my phone for in house usage. Loving it so far, only wish the app support was better.

I'm digging it. I sincerely hope with the 5k that were given to devs we'll get more support!

I'm very pleased with this tablet. It feels much nicer to hold than my previous tablet.
Can someone with a 16GB tell me what their total space available is showing? Mine's at 13GB. I could have swore it was 14.2GB or somewhere around there.

I'm also very happy with mine, I actually have no problems with Honeycomb itself -- but more apps need to support it. Thumb Keyboard + News360 + Flash 10.3 + Dolphin HD + YouTube + Samurai II = my Sunday.

I just got it! By a coincidence it arrived the same day as the iPad2 I bought for my uncle, and I did a comparison side by side. Although I am used to iOS (I have an iPhone), I immediately felt honeycomb as more flexible, out of the box, than iOS. As for Aesthetic, I can say that the GT feels much lighter than the iPad, I can handle it better.
In few words: I am really happy, so far.

I've had mine since Friday. I love the look and feel of the GT. It looks and feels much better than the Xoom, in my opinion (I had a Xoom for just under 2 weeks) and it's definitely lighter than the Xoom. I compared it to my gf's iPad 2 and it is a little bigger, but feels lighter. So I love this tablet.
I don't love the lack of tablet optimized apps or the lack of Netflix or Google Movies. Compared to the iPad it's definitely lacking in those areas, but the tablet itself and honeycomb are excellent.

I've had my LE I/O version for about a month now and absolutely love it. It's light, feels great in my hands, it's fast, I even love Honeycomb... Not sure why so many people complain about it. Hopefully over the next few months we'll start seeing more HC versions of apps.
edit: forgot to mention the battery life is freakin amazing. I can go 3-5 days with moderate usage and it won't die.

Got one from Amazon. So far happy with it. Need to look into how to root and OC the cpu.
The smartbench 2011 score is less than Viewsonic (OCed to 1.4Ghz).

Im absolutely in love with my tablet

Well, I have to admit that so far I ampretty in love with this tablet. The screen is amazing and the weight and thickness make this feel really nice in the hand. I am really enjoying honeycomb so far and do not see any problems so far. I was kinda worried about buying this but I am relieved. I also really love the look of it. I have the grey one and it looks really nice. So far I am a happy tablet owner
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KUDO's to Asus

I typically do not post raves, but this time I have to rave about the Transformer. This is what everyone that try's to do an android tablet should be making. I got the Gtab last fall and did all the moding to get a usable tablet. Worked pretty good I had to say. Until now. The TF is outstanding. I had the pleasure of quieting a couple friends with iPads on Friday. The TF tore through internet pages, video on Youtube and anything else they could challenge me with.
I have been a fan of Asus for awhile and will continue to praise their product.
FYI, buy from a reputable vendor and you wont have the headaches.

Yeah this thing is amazing. I remember watching a reviews before I ordered it, saying the back felt cheap because it had a strange pattern but it feels so nice, and of course, doesn't scratch!

+1 had to go show it to my old boss the ultimate apple product fanboy, he looked for a bit, then quickly found a reason not to talk to me anymore normally he would argue with me about how apple is far superior, there is no argument that really holds water in the ipad vs eeepad shootout

I completely agree. After I messed around with most tablets out there. (Xoom, Iconia, iPad 1 and 2, etc...) I finally settled on the TF and I do not regret a thing. I absolutely love the little guy. The transformer is easily my favorite tablet and product that I've purchased from ASUS.

Almost a year ago Asus was showing off that 12 inch win7 tablet/laptop/transformer, and I wanted it so bad back then...
Januari this year I bought the Toshiba Folio 100, and after modding it, it does work very well imo... But when I walked through a MediaMarkt XL store (just to look aroudn and play around with some stuff), I saw this transformer, and I knew I was going to buy it, but I wanted to make sure it really was what it looked like... so I read and watched a lot of reviews, and bought it the next day!
It's so nice that I even leave my 15" HP ProBook at home most of the time!
(The wallpaper is a live video wallpaper)

I have to agree on that.
The Transformer is a very well done and smartly design product.
Kudo's to asus !
The keyboard integration is so good that i'm using the tablet almost exclusivly with the dock.
It's light, easy to use, the trackpad is awesome, the connectivity is top notch and the battery life is....well it's basicly the longest battery life there is in any device. Want to use it all day long in your garden downloading movie, watching them and browsing internet while chatting with friend ? You can ! This thing just can't run out of juice !
Gratz Asus! Waiting for you to roll out Ice cream as soon as you can.

Same here, Kudos to Asus! I'm moving on close to 2 months since the release and couldn't be happier...no problems. And, oh so, glad I got the dock/keyboard that really makes it unique and above the rest.
And please with all the card slots, etc. it offers that others don't. Also, pretty impressed that they rolled out the new update in a timely fashion for 3.1, while it looks like other tablets were waiting.
Guess that's why it's reported Asus Transformer is best selling android tablet!
I'm a happy customer and use it every day, all day long most time with a great battery life between it and my keyboard.

I must say that I'm also very pleased with the TF101. There have been lots of other posts/threads which slam them for the light bleed, non-working issues, etc., but really, I think ASUS has done a great job considering that it's their first foray into Android, AND they come with a product that no one else offers (dock functionality). It takes a hell of a lot of QA to make sure that it's ready for production, and despite myself having to return a faulty dock, I also give Kudos to them.
In fact, as I was reporting on my faulty dock issue a while ago, I received a PM from ASUS themselves! They offered to exchange my complete setup for a brand new one (dock, tablet, cables, etc.), however I declined because everything is working great for me once exchanging my faulty dock at the store I purchased it from.
Getting that message and noting that ASUS themselves are watching these boards, as they know we have a great passion for 'pimping out' devices gives me another great feeling.
Has anyone else been in contact by ASUS on XDA?
Regardless, yes. Kudos to you ASUS!

I, too, love my Transformer plus dock. Mine has no light bleed, no creaking, no problems at all. And I'm a total n00b when it comes to Android, but by reading the manual and the helpful advice here and another forum, I've gotten most or all of my questions answered. If even a beginner like me can feel comfortable, Asus has hit it out of the park.

xTRICKYxx said:
Yeah this thing is amazing. I remember watching a reviews before I ordered it, saying the back felt cheap because it had a strange pattern but it feels so nice, and of course, doesn't scratch!
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Mine feels extremely solid, and well built...not sure where the reviewers are getting this unless they were stuck with some bad ones...
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Mine feels extremely solid, and well built...not sure where the reviewers are getting this unless they were stuck with some bad ones...
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Review units are usually from pre-production or 1st production runs, and almost always have disclaimers that they are pre-prodution run review units. It also explains some of the early units that appear on the market having some QA issues.
I have a B05 UK model, and have none of the problems mentioned, it's got fantastic build quality, and my Apple loving boss has last week sold his ipad2 and bought one too after seeing mine+dock.
The days of Apple ruling the roost are long gone, you can get better and cheaper buy buying non-Apple these days. My phone is a HTC that's WAY better than anything Apple make, my tablet is an Asus and ditto....

My tab definitely feels solid too. I don't get all the "cheap" complaints because mine has been just fine and dandy. I do have a little bit of light bleed but it's really only visible when the entire screen is black, and honestly, it's something I can overlook. Just a minor annoyance, and I'll take dealing with it given the price
<3 the TF!

Have to agree pretty much with all the previous posts here. Have read most all the other posts of complaints and honestly while some were bonafide issues I rather felt some were suffering from too high expectations. My TF is quite probably from the initial release go-round and pretty much has been fine. A few annoyances? Sure. The dock battery drain is troublesome as is the charger (email to Asus was NEVER even acknowledged sad to say) but hoping future software fixes will be forthcoming.
Overall, I'm pleased and impressed.

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My tab definitely feels solid too. I don't get all the "cheap" complaints because mine has been just fine and dandy. I do have a little bit of light bleed but it's really only visible when the entire screen is black, and honestly, it's something I can overlook. Just a minor annoyance, and I'll take dealing with it given the price
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well I can't tell if I have any light bleeding... I've ran several dead pixel and light bleeding test programs and all of the colors of 100 percent solid. My settings screen and my browser bookmark page look like they have light bleed but several people have told me that is by design.
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I am very satisfied as well. I also have the keyboard version and it's not only usefull when writing longer texts (e.g. emails) but it gives the extra boost in battery life which is very welcomed!

I'm definitely not selling mine!
I'm thrilled with almost everything about it.
I also own an iPad and can comment without bias. The TF is better in nearly every way (especially the OS). The one area I think the iPad wins is the structural strength. It just feels tougher. I do like the really simple design but unfortunately apple let that spill over into every facet of the device.
TF for the win (especially with prime! 1.5)

Not untill this has netflix,hulu plus, words with friends honeycomb edition and potrait frame rate fix honeycomb tabs would never be an iPad killer

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I typically do not post raves, but this time I have to rave about the Transformer. This is what everyone that try's to do an android tablet should be making. I got the Gtab last fall and did all the moding to get a usable tablet. Worked pretty good I had to say. Until now. The TF is outstanding. I had the pleasure of quieting a couple friends with iPads on Friday. The TF tore through internet pages, video on Youtube and anything else they could challenge me with.
I have been a fan of Asus for awhile and will continue to praise their product.
FYI, buy from a reputable vendor and you wont have the headaches.
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My cousin, a huge apple fan boy, talked trash about my tablet for a while. Then he came over the shoot pool with me yesterday, and he saw my tablet with the keyboard dock, and he was like on nice you got a new netbook? I guess your tablet was not enough.
I told him this is my tablet and then showed him how it works, he was like Sh!t, why cant apple do cool stuff like that!!
"Android" steals the best stuff, and improves on it" I had to laugh at him.
Brandon

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Not untill this has netflix,hulu plus, words with friends honeycomb edition and potrait frame rate fix honeycomb tabs would never be an iPad killer
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To each their own! Plenty of people could care less about those apps and don't even miss them when they're gone.

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+1 had to go show it to my old boss the ultimate apple product fanboy, he looked for a bit, then quickly found a reason not to talk to me anymore normally he would argue with me about how apple is far superior, there is no argument that really holds water in the ipad vs eeepad shootout
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Reality check.
Rational arguments favoring the iPad 2 would include build quality, form factor (half as thick and also lighter), resale value, screen quality (brighter at max, dimmer at min, less reflective), performance (iPad's PowerVR crushes Tegra 2, no problems with 720p h.264 and iOS 5 has no problems even with 1080p h.264 whereas my TF cannot currently decode 720p acceptably, negating for me the advantage of the 16:10 screen). Also consider O/S maturity and reliability (most obviously the default Honeycomb launcher+browser are junk although ADW+Opera are much better, if buggy), the development tools (the Android emulator in particular is laughable - the iPad emulator in XCode is literally ~100x faster), app selection (Netflix an obvious example, there are thousands more), app quality (same app on both platforms is almost always inferior on TF) - in fact I don't see Android app performance ever approaching iOS here on similar hardware due to the overhead imposed by the Dalvik VM. Also, iTunes movies, TV shows, audiobooks etc. are one click away (although you have to pay for them vs torrents/Handbrake etc). Maybe if I had I non-rooted non-wifi-only Xoom I could try Google movies - I wouldn't known since I have an Asus TF and it has not been white-listed yet (BTW this kind of will-it-install/run/work roulette would not fly on the iTunes store). AirPlay, AirPrint and Home Sharing also 'Just Works.'.
I guess none of these arguments 'hold water' to you but if Google, OEMs like Asus and users rationalize away these things I think you can pretty much kiss this platform goodbye.
... which would be unfortunate because the Transformer's advantages are not insignificant - for $100 less (32GB vs 32GB) I get the MicroSD slot (plus SD with the dock) which gives me 64gb swappable storage in addition to the 32gb onboard (vs 64gb total on iPad), Apple's 'walled garden' is breached so I can install 3rd party keyboards, cloud-based music players, launchers, widgets etc. I also don't have to worry about Apple yanking the Kindle app etc for not paying the tithe etc.

[Q] RMA and hope for the best or Xoom?

I'm leaving for college in mid August, and my tf B4O is experiencing worse and worse light bleed. I don't care about the laptop dock, and was wondering if I should go down $400 with the Staples coupon on a -xoom- EDIT: Galaxy Tab with greater assurance of build quality or risk the RMA down in Grapevine, TX? Any other suggestions are welcome.

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I'm leaving for college in mid August, and my tf B4O is experiencing worse and worse light bleed. I don't care about the laptop dock, and was wondering if I should go down $400 with the Staples coupon on a xoom with greater assurance of build quality or risk the RMA down in Grapevine, TX? Any other suggestions are welcome.
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Hi, sorry for my english..
I have both of them.. eee pad transformer and the xoom tablet.. and both of them have some bugs.. eee pad transformer runs at the moment whit os 3.1 and overclocked cpu between 1.2 and 1.5ghz.. moves between the screens isnt fluent, moves in the app menu isnt fluent too. i try the launcher pro too, but the same problem. i have a one screen whit two widgets over the whole place, and on this screen i cant get the move between it and other screen fluent..
it didnt feel so good, and it looks very bad, i cant understand why google or asus are not in the position to fix that.. i cant belive that the hw whit dual core 1.2 ghz and 1gb ram isnt enough.
the feelings in the browser are not so good too.. most of pages works, but how? the same problem like whit the screen, the scroling up and down in the browser is not fluent.. playing from videos its not so good too.. its acceptable, but not perfect.. flash didnt work reliably, some site like facebook have problems.. google+ didnt work correct too..
i have some random reboots, but it can be from the overclock the cpu..
so, now some things to the xoom device..
here in eu(switzerland) motorola didnt roll out a update for our devices so we stay on 3.0.1.. its really terrible, i pay more then 800 CHF for it, flash didnt work, microsd card didnt work, widget on the home screen are not expandable, user agent in the browser didnt work, more correct, you didnt have the option to set the agent.. i install yesterday a us version whit 3.2, there are some modifications on it to run whit 3g on eu devices.. some things are better, but not perfect.. im not sure if flash works, i dont belive.. on youtube test speed website whit the video, i get between 5 and 9 fps on 720p, on 320p its ok.. the moves between the screens are not fluent too, the same in the menu with apps..
some problems are fixed, the widget are expandable, microsd work now, but you didnt have the feel you work whit a device which is top, dual core 1.5ghz, 1 gb ram and a graphic chip.. the big problem in browser stay on motorola whit os 3.2.. facebook didnt work correct and google+ too..
so all in all, i will wait until xoom get a officiall update here in eu and i will wate for the update from transformer to 3.2.. if things arent better, i will sell the devices and buy a real table pc whit win7 from hp which is convertable too.. this bugs in the system or whatever, im not a developer, is it the system, the hw or the work between it, its not for dayli use.. i would replace a notebook or a pc at home whit the asus transformer, but i cant do that, all this bugs make it unpossible..
and i look for a device "all in one" and didnt want to have one more.. im really a fan from android and my first device was the google phone g1/dream.. but the products like xoom or transfomer arent finished to be saled, really not.. and i cant understand firms like asus and motorola, how they cant push something that is not ready for it..
its just my opinion at the moment whit the devices..
have a nice day..

I could also get a new tf maybe a B6O or a B7O.
Thanks for the view on bugs, I actually don't get lag between screens and I get good frame rates on flash. I love the screen on this but the build quality worries me.

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I could also get a new tf maybe a B6O or a B7O.
Thanks for the view on bugs, I actually don't get lag between screens and I get good frame rates on flash. I love the screen on this but the build quality worries me.
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What about a Samsung 10.1? If I did not care about a keyboard that would be my choice.

Yeah I'm thinking just getting the Galaxy Tab after seeing no prevalent issues plaguing their forum like this one.

Actually, I'm thinking that if I get it from Staples, their return policy is 14 days. So if I RMA on the same day I buy the Transformer, I can return the Tab if the Transformer is fixed. If the Transformer is worse off than it was before, I can hang on to it. This is assuming I get the Transformer back in under two weeks.

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Yeah I'm thinking just getting the Galaxy Tab after seeing no prevalent issues plaguing their forum like this one.
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I dunno dude the other day I was looking at their forum and they havee alot of the same complaints such as random reboots, sluggish keyboard, sleep of death, etc so evidently that stuff is just inherent in Honeycomb thus far. Sure they don't have the battery drain one since there is no dock nor the light bleed since they have a diff display type but they appeared to have plenty of other issues themselves. I do agree though if it weren't for the dock the Galaxy looks to be the way to go for a Honeycomb tablet currently, though without the built in SD slot that kinda sucks but guess you can get a dongle for that if you really need it. Also I don't think light bleed "gets worse", you sure you just are seeing it better or paying more attention to it then you were?

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I dunno dude the other day I was looking at their forum and they havee alot of the same complaints such as random reboots, sluggish keyboard, sleep of death, etc so evidently that stuff is just inherent in Honeycomb thus far. Sure they don't have the battery drain one since there is no dock nor the light bleed since they have a diff display type but they appeared to have plenty of other issues themselves. I do agree though if it weren't for the dock the Galaxy looks to be the way to go for a Honeycomb tablet currently, though without the built in SD slot that kinda sucks but guess you can get a dongle for that if you really need it. Also I don't think light bleed "gets worse", you sure you just are seeing it better or paying more attention to it then you were?
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Well, I had these light blotches in the middle of the screen, and light bleed middle bottom and left hand corner (lower). The other day I noticed a huge amount of light bleed coming from the right hand lower corner. I may have not noticed it, but maybe through handling, the screen is less secure on the bottom frame? I'll just send it in, if they don't fix it, I'll just buy the Galaxy Tab (avoid restocking fee)

I would recommend getting the thinkpad k tablet.... I think its going to be the best android when it hits the market....had two transformers sold one to buy the thibkpad k.
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I'm leaving for college in mid August, and my tf B4O is experiencing worse and worse light bleed. I don't care about the laptop dock, and was wondering if I should go down $400 with the Staples coupon on a -xoom- EDIT: Galaxy Tab with greater assurance of build quality or risk the RMA down in Grapevine, TX? Any other suggestions are welcome.
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Same thing happened to me. I have a B40 and the light bleed started at nothing and got worse and worse over the last two months. I just RMA'd it.