So I just installed "the impossible game" on my brand new SGS2 and discovered there's some banding on the gradient in this game, which was not here with my Nexus One (AMOLED).
Has anyone else noticed that ? do you think it can be fixed later on (I know supercurio did some work on the first SGS's rendering) ?
edit : I'm only talking about the horizontal banding (the circular moiré is caused by the glass and visible only on the camera). Also I tried changing the brightness and background rendering but nothing helped.
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So I'm the only one experiencing that ?
I hope my phone is not faulty because I've already rooted it so I guess I can't return it anymore :-/
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So I'm the only one experiencing that ?
I hope my phone is not faulty because I've already rooted it so I guess I can't return it anymore :-/
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not got that app i'm afraid...if it was just you then you can always flash back to the standard o2 sortware, removing the root. then using a jig remove the custom binary count...thus restoring your warranty
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Try checking the loading screen for the XDA app. It should be a nice gradient of brown but I remember it was HEAVILY banded on the Atrix.
Roger should chime in with more info on this =)
No need to use an app to test:
http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/gradient.php
I find it hard to believe that they've gone through all that to make the best display in the field and then limited it to 16bit colors (I believe super amoled has 24bit?)
Phew, it's not just me! The two things I'm disappointed with on this phone are the screen issues and the battery life. Other than that, it's incredible.
Let's hope for major firmware upgrades and dev support!
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No need to use an app to test:
http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/gradient.php
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Thanx for the link. And of course we don't need to test on an app, I just happened to notice on this particular game, and thought it was best to avoid comparing with the browser or gallery since they could be faulty themselves (the gallery used to cause banding on the Nexus One).
I really hope it can be fixed later... I keep reading the screen is fantastic, but it doesn't look so good now (maybe it's better than pentile Matrix though)
I don't have a SGSII but you are certainly not alone, I've read a lot about this banding issue - remember reading somewhere about the possibility that it may infact be 16bit at the moment.
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Try checking the loading screen for the XDA app. It should be a nice gradient of brown but I remember it was HEAVILY banded on the Atrix.
Roger should chime in with more info on this =)
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heh well i'll give my unofficial opinion is that your nexus one is running the latest 2.3.3 GB which fixed the nexus one's 16 bit color banding issue. did that game show banding on your nexus one last year?
anyway my opinion theory is the super amoled plus screen is still not 24 bit color yet, probably only 16 bit like the n1 was. i cant prove this though, so take as you wish.
the nexus one on the XDA app, the spalsh screen showed lots of banding for all last year. after the 2.3.3 update the banding is finally gone on the nexus one. and google admitted that the 2.3.3 update finally brought the n1 up from 16 bit color.
so my guess is the new amoled+ wasnt finalized yet, like the n1 originally, so the SGS2 is only 16 bit color in its current firmware version.
Very disappointing, I'll stay away from the phone for now and I hope they'll fix this as soon as possible! I feared that something like this would happen when I saw the GLBenchmark data (or something like that, which stated that it's 16-bit anyway). Good to hear that the N1 had the same problem and it got fixed, though!
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Very disappointing, I'll stay away from the phone for now and I hope they'll fix this as soon as possible! I feared that something like this would happen when I saw the GLBenchmark data (or something like that, which stated that it's 16-bit anyway). Good to hear that the N1 had the same problem and it got fixed, though!
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It really isn't that noticeable, you can't see it under normal use when you're holding the phone at a normal distance.
Totally liveable in the short run knowing that it will get fixed. From the speed and quantity of updates, I'm guessing Samsung's trying to repair the black eye they got for pretty much ignoring the SGS.
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It really isn't that noticeable, you can't see it under normal use when you're holding the phone at a normal distance.
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I disagree, it's very noticeable when you have any image that has a gradient. Every time I load up the XDA app, or fire up Stupid Zombies, it's right there plain as day.
Very annoying.
yeah. it's plain obvious. for that game, i have to set the quality to low, so that the banding disappears
omg, you got to be kidding me... even my android-loaded HD2, which is definitely suffering from a hardware limit of 65536 colors, shows less banding, much less shall I say, than this supposedly 16M colored monster?? :-(
this issue wouldnt stop me from keeping the SGS2. but there were lots of specific test images used on the nexus one to highlight the issue.
in fact here is the article with test images you guys can try on your SGS2. at the time of this article, the pentile pixel matrix was the highlight. but a year later the 2.3.3 update kinda proved that the banding was NOT related to the pixels, since its totally fixed now.
interesting read nonetheless.
http://www.displaymate.com/Nexus_One_ShootOut.htm
After testing a bit more, the photo I took in the first post is THE most obvious case of banding I could find. The gradient in xda, or the one at http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/gradient.php are not perfect, but they don't look THAT bad.
edit : And yeah, it's not enough for me to return the phone, and I'd buy it again knowing that, but it's still annoying, especially since they insisted so much on the quality of the SAMOLED+ screen.
It's purely a software bug. I'm almost certain the physical display can handle these gradients.
On my Nexus One/S if I view that sunset on mars photo in the stock android gallery I get all that banding. If I use another gallery like QuickPic, no banding at all.
It's a similar bug when setting home page wallpapers. You get quite a bit of banding doing it the stock way, but using wallpaper set & save to set the background eliminates banding.
It's not the screen, it's the rom, the browser is set/capped to 16 bits. The gallery however actually displays in 24 bits.
This issue can be fixed with a custom rom, it's probably set to 16 bits to allow smoother web browsing, which is totally stupid because the processor is totally capable of handling smooth browsing with 24 bits display.
There is color cap in WP7, currently with some tweak my Focus does display 24bit color in Pictures hub but 16bit in any browser related app. You people may want to try more.
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I was wondering if someone who have got the device can say us if the device have banding as the SGS 2 or with the different screen (not plus), now it works fine.
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I was wondering if someone who have got the device can say us if the device have banding as the SGS 2 or with the different screen (not plus), now it works fine.
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Ahhhhhh, mine has vertical banding, especially apparent on the Maps app. Its as if you are looking through a screen door. I assume it is a manufacturing issue. Don't really want to send it back to the UK, as I'm from the US. Any fix for this??? Coming from the iphone4 screen, this is unacceptable. Is anyone else noticing this on their Note? The banding on my phone is vertical, unlike the pic above.
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I was wondering if someone who have got the device can say us if the device have banding as the SGS 2 or with the different screen (not plus), now it works fine.
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I see the same banding on the note.
I've been running this and that - didn't notice till you pointed that out. (although I hadn't run angry birds yet)
I have seen it in one other game, but not in any the apps or anything else. I wonder if it's a scaling bug.
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I see the same banding on the note.
I've been running this and that - didn't notice till you pointed that out. (although I hadn't run angry birds yet)
I have seen it in one other game, but not in any the apps or anything else. I wonder if it's a scaling bug.
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Yeah, sorry, its something you tend not to notice unless you are looking for it. I have found that turning up the brightness helps a lot. My only complaint about this phone.
From what I see, there is banding in the first one too, but it is less noticeable because the patchwork effect is quite apparent.
Anybody tried to change the dpi value to see what happens. Banding appears on my sgs2 too, but only when I lower the dpi value under 240, so I guess it might be a scaling issue.
This stuff is complicated as there are various reasons:
-some apps or games are using 16bit pictures which will show banding anyway
-Samsung throws in a sharpness filter/colours boost that... boost banding
-pentile display is suspected to cause some banding in particular conditions (I'm not completely sure about that)
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This stuff is complicated as there are various reasons:
-some apps or games are using 16bit pictures which will show banding anyway
-Samsung throws in a sharpness filter/colours boost that... boost banding
-pentile display is suspected to cause some banding in particular conditions (I'm not completely sure about that)
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Third one seems like a moot point, SGSII has the same branding on a regular RGB display. As far as I know, it might not even be a screen issue. Many SGSII users reported that this branding is apparent in screenshots too. That would suggest that it's a display driver issue, maybe Mali is producing only 16bit colours to achieve high benchmark scores. Just maybe...
Found this, may give it a try once I'm rooted, anyone used this??? I really do not want to have to send this phone back to the UK...
https://market.android.com/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.screentunedev
Might be software related. If the screen were the problem, you wouldn't even be able to capture the banding in a direct framegrab
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Ahhhhhh, mine has vertical banding, especially apparent on the Maps app. Its as if you are looking through a screen door. I assume it is a manufacturing issue. Don't really want to send it back to the UK, as I'm from the US. Any fix for this??? Coming from the iphone4 screen, this is unacceptable. Is anyone else noticing this on their Note? The banding on my phone is vertical, unlike the pic above.
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To clarify, I think vertical banding is a separate issue.
I see very slight banding in gradients, but none visible in google Maps. It's not nearly as bad as on the SGS.
I set my dpi down from 320 to 280.
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Found this, may give it a try once I'm rooted, anyone used this??? I really do not want to have to send this phone back to the UK...
https://market.android.com/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.screentunedev
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I tried, the note is not supported. I send a message to the developer requesting support.
When it comes to banding, those are my observations:
Generally the device seemes to be able to display color gradients very finely, no annoying banding. You can observe so when looking at a photo in the gallery or a video.
However the same picture will not display so finely in the browser, especially when tapping, zooming and moving.
Also some applications like skype show very visible and annoying banding, even in video.
So it appears to me this is a software issue and not a hardware issue, meaning it can be fixed.
Does anyone have more experience with banding and of possible ways to fix it?
I have the impression in many cases it is not the application itself causing it since the same app displays fine on other devices, but the way the system is configured.
So I recently got a Galaxy Note and tried some wallpaper i used on my galaxy nexus and there is strange distortion in the image where the colors transitions. I'm interested to see if this is the Galaxy Note or just my Galaxy Note. Can you guys place the image on your devices and see if it shows the same distortion.
I attached the image to this post so you can put a clean image on your device.
Here is where the distortion is but of course you won't see it in the image unless you are looking at it on your note.
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i see wht u mean ... i tried it...but i think it happens becuz the pixels turns off under the colours becuz it's black ,, u cnt see it on lcd i guess if u tried
another possible issue it's becuz every pixel has 2 sub pixels instead of two so..it cant move to another colurs
I considered that but the Galaxy Nexus has pentile display as well that is Super Amoled. I would expect to see the same thing on that device but it might be that the pixels are a bit smaller on the GN. I honestly don't know but it concerned me a bit.
I cannot see any difference between the image on my phone and on my laptop.
I have tried with Screen Adjuster at 75% and -40 contrast, and without.
Interesting.. Do you have a white note or a blk/blue version?
This is a common issue in the Q/A section. Look for the a thread about video playback issues.
In short, the Note does a very poor job at rendering black levels. At some point, it completely drops off and instead of rendering a low level black, you get a completely turned off pixel. This creates the "black pixelated" effect in the wallpaper that you see. You can see this same effect if you took the default ICS stock wallpaper. You'll see it in the bottom left side of the wallpaper when viewed from a note.
Supercurio is working on a fix. People are also hoping that ICS will provide some relief to this issue so sit tight.
It is not a hardware defect, rest assured.
This effect will also occur in videos with dark scenes. One temporary remedy for now is to use high-resolution wallpapers and high-resolution videos. If you can, try using a 2500x1600 wallpaper or something higher. This reduces the black clipping/pixelation a little but does not eliminate it. Using a brighter themed wallpaper would help as well.
If you're using a dark wallpaper thinking that it'll save you power, don't bother. It is not significant power savings due to the fact that you'll swipe through your home screen and your brightly colored icons would have activated the parts of the wallpaper that were dark anyhow.
Cheers.
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This is a common issue in the Q/A section. Look for the a thread about video playback issues.
In short, the Note does a very poor job at rendering black levels. At some point, it completely drops off and instead of rendering a low level black, you get a completely turned off pixel. This creates the "black pixelated" effect in the wallpaper that you see. You can see this same effect if you took the default ICS stock wallpaper. You'll see it in the bottom left side of the wallpaper when viewed from a note.
Supercurio is working on a fix. People are also hoping that ICS will provide some relief to this issue so sit tight.
It is not a hardware defect, rest assured.
This effect will also occur in videos with dark scenes. One temporary remedy for now is to use high-resolution wallpapers and high-resolution videos. If you can, try using a 2500x1600 wallpaper or something higher. This reduces the black clipping/pixelation a little but does not eliminate it. Using a brighter themed wallpaper would help as well.
If you're using a dark wallpaper thinking that it'll save you power, don't bother. It is not significant power savings due to the fact that you'll swipe through your home screen and your brightly colored icons would have activated the parts of the wallpaper that were dark anyhow.
Cheers.
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ahhh haa.. Thanks for that information. I have yet to see it in a video or paid close enough attention to catch it. I'm not too worried about wallpaper but when i saw that i was like hmmmm what is this about.
Thanks for that info. That answers all my questions.
This is the black crush issue which is discussed on the video issue, it also happens with images/games and basically anything on the screen.
Same issue for me
absolutely no pixelation on my note.
smooth transition to black
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absolutely no pixelation on my note.
smooth transition to black
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Set your brightness to 0 and look at it in a dark room.
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Set your brightness to 0 and look at it in a dark room.
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I'm aware of the issues, but there is no pixelation on my note. not with this particular picture. sorry
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Its interesting... After i read the post about the pixels being turned off the issue disappeared but I did lower the brightness and it did come back. Its apparently not an absolute under every circumstance but its definitely an issue. I'm less worried about it now though.
I gotta wait till ICS to make my final decision on whether to keep the note or to go back to the nexus
This is very obvious the first few hours using the phone. Horrible sharpening halos around texts most noticeable on gray and non white backgrounds. It kills the black contrast of the text as well making it look gray and not to mention a pain to read. You can spot it easily in browser forums here: http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2250376 and here: http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/hardware-clinic-2/
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It looks even worse in than that in actual use.
Am I the only one bothered by this?
I used to feel that aswell on my Acer GD245HQ when i was like 2 cm from it, then i got glasses and standed at a normal distance and they disapear
Supercurio is busy working his magic for the display a few of his tweets:
"with tuned sharpening, perceived sharpness can be nicely improved, sans visible artefacts"
"image processor from GS3 is from a newer generation than any existing devices, adding finer controls over useful parameters"
"settings are clearly over-cooked (not the first time and no preset is reasonable /accurate) it's perfect for Display Expert"
He's also addressing black crush etc...
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I used to feel that aswell on my Acer GD245HQ when i was like 2 cm from it, then i got glasses and standed at a normal distance and they disapear
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i agree. unless it is norm to put your phone very near your eyes,use a magnifying lens or microscope when using your phone daily.
I just viewed the linked pages on my gs3 and I'm having a very hard time seeing what you're talking about. How does the text look remotely grey? And what halos? Text is sharp and easy to read even when zoomed out a fair bit. As you'd expect since it's a 300+ ppi screen.
Are you talking about the anti-aliasing? You don't want the font to be anti-aliased or something? Even in your magnified photo, I can't see what the problem is?
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I just viewed the linked pages on my gs3 and I'm having a very hard time seeing what you're talking about. How does the text look remotely grey? And what halos? Text is sharp and easy to read even when zoomed out a fair bit. As you'd expect since it's a 300+ ppi screen.
Are you talking about the anti-aliasing? You don't want the font to be anti-aliased or something? Even in your magnified photo, I can't see what the problem is?
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It isn't the anti alisaing. I increased the contrast a little to show the problem more clearly.
Notice the halos around the characters? Still dont know what is wrong? In browser tap menu, brightness and colors, select level 1 power saving. This makes the display color a little bluish but also eliminates the sharpening and makes the text much better looking as it should. Compare it to default and see if you notice a difference.
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i agree. unless it is norm to put your phone very near your eyes,use a magnifying lens or microscope when using your phone daily.
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I dont need a magnifying glass or bring the my device close to see the effect. Its perfectly visible at my normal reading distance.
Yes, I see it. Doesn't bother me at all.
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After a while you dont even notice it anymore, seems natural, but as said above, supercurio is working on some tools to help out
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It isn't the anti alisaing. I increased the contrast a little to show the problem more clearly.
Notice the halos around the characters? Still dont know what is wrong? In browser tap menu, brightness and colors, select level 1 power saving. This makes the display color a little bluish but also eliminates the sharpening and makes the text much better looking as it should. Compare it to default and see if you notice a difference.
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Ok I see it now. I can't really see that without the magnified and enhanced pic though. I think I can see a slight difference when using level 1 power saving but it's really difficult to know for sure. My eyes must be terrible!
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Maybe this phone needs to be used with Google Glasses?
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Maybe this phone needs to be used with Google Glasses?
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SGS3D ?
Let's complain about everything! Anyone else notice the white isn't really white? It's more of a off white! Wtf Samsung!
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Let's complain about everything! Anyone else notice the white isn't really white? It's more of a off white! Wtf Samsung!
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Please keep this thread related to the original topic, if you want to discuss if your screen is white or something else go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1658601
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Please keep this thread related to the original topic, if you want to discuss if your screen is white or something else go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1658601
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He was making a joke..........
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He was making a joke..........
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Ah sorry im too sensitive today ..
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Let's complain about everything! Anyone else notice the white isn't really white? It's more of a off white! Wtf Samsung!
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I think this is a legitimate issue. I can see the poor text rendering in all lighting conditions unlike complains about imperfect blacks that can only be seem in pitch dark conditions. Joking aside the poor whites are also an issue.
I am also really annoyed by the over sharpening. I hope displayexpert is released soon and takes care of the issue..
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I am also really annoyed by the over sharpening. I hope displayexpert is released soon and takes care of the issue..
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Me too. Really, really annoying, but let's just wait for supercurio to do his magic.
Just another HOX buyers remorse thread. Move along.
Hey xda members,
just had a bit of spare time so I decided to make some photos of my GS2 while displaying a totally black screen.
Normally you can only see these "effects" when you're in a completely dark room while looking at the GS2 being the only light-emitting source through its display.
Note: The actual purpose of this thread is to educate those people who can't imagine what burn-in/ink marks look like in reality. That's it, just plain visual information.
So I hope this isn't an issue even if there may already be a similar thread
I made some of the photos with the roomlights turned off and others with a very dim light.
The photos were shot using a Nikon D3100 DSLR with long exposure/high aperture settings.
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As you can see in the first photo (below), even if the GS2's display shows a completely black image, which should result in a black display (OLED = pixel off) it shows weird marks and still emits a tiny amount of light.
In the second photo I have marked all the relevant weird spots (including screen burn-in caused by grey status bar [see below, marked by arrow])
The OLEDs in the burn-in area seemed to wear out faster because of the static grey shade it was displaying all the time thus resulting in this permanent color change in the affected area.
This burn-in was apparently caused by this theme which I was using for several months. As you can see, even the status bar in a dark grey shade can cause burn in.
A couple of more photos (with different white balance):
See below for photos in full resolution:
Hope this helps in any way and gives those people an impression who can't really imagine how screen burn-in can be caused and how these display issues (ink marks) actually look like when you capture them properly.
Very interesting indeed. Thanks for the great images, it's certainly an eye-opener to one of the main drawbacks of S-AMOLED screens.
Regards.
How long have you had your phone?
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How long have you had your phone?
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Roughly about nine months, bought it in October 2011.
Sent from my SGS2.
Hope this is no news? Every AMOLED burns in (like crazy). Been doing that since the first models were on the market.
Every SGS2 has it, whether people say yes or no. On my SGS2 it was clearly visible after around six months. Knew it beforehand so it was no biggie/surprise.
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Every SGS2 has it, whether people say yes or no. On my SGS2 it was clearly visible after around six months. Knew it beforehand so it was no biggie/surprise.
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Yeah, also knew it before buying but I never thought the burn-in would look like that so I thought I'd share my experience with the world
While it does look pretty bad on the photos, you can't really see these issues when the screen is turned on with decent brightness, so it's no issue for every day use, but it would be interesting to know how the burn-in looks like if you use your phone for example 3 years.
Still, it looks already really horrible after 9 months of use when you look at the photos. I hope the OLED-technology makes a giant leap forward in the next years so one day these display issues will be a thing of the past.
thanks for the images, i find it disgusting to have that burnt in on a topline expensive phone in short time.
this is my first amoled phone so i dont know what to expect after a year or so, its bad for those who keep thier phones long term, would like to see how the screen is in 5 years time
is it bad when you watch a movie?
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thanks for the images, i find it disgusting to have that burnt in on a topline expensive phone in short time.
this is my first amoled phone so i dont know what to expect after a year or so, its bad for those who keep thier phones long term, would like to see how the screen is in 5 years time
is it bad when you watch a movie?
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Well, it depends while watching a movie. Sometimes I can see the burn-in in movies with a lot of dark scenes, in other movies this issue is not apparent.
Either way..since I discovered this issue, I cannot ignore it anymore which doesn't mean it annoys the hell out of me but still it's a pity to see the phone 'degrading' already after not even a year and spending a lot of money on it.
Sent from my SGS2.
ya its really annoying especially with my mentality that when I spend a huge amount of money on a tech kit I expect it to give me like 2+ years minimum
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Lol SAMOLED. That is all.
i tried to fix the black crush/color issue on my S3 with Filter Your Screen
(13 Alpha; 255 Red; 225 Green; 255 Blue)
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but there is a warning for AMOLED devices:
***OLED screen owner please read***
(AMOLED screen of Samsung Galaxy S, Super AMOLED Plus screen of Samsung Galaxy S II, etc.)
- you should use only white, gray or black filter only.
- using color filter (not white, gray or black) for a long time may cause your screen more color tint. (it's about OLED screen property, not my fault)
- using any color filter other than black will cause black pixel being not 'true black' pixel anymore. (that means some power is required for black pixel)
- if the filter does not cover all of your screen, please uninstall this app because this may cause irregular color burn to your screen.
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is this filter going to damage the amoled screen and how much it effects the battery?
I did not realize the S3 had a problem with black crush, I though it was just us unlucky G-Note owners
We have just been using the free "Screen Adjuster" app , but it kills the battery and makes blacks gray.
John
I definitely have a black crush issue with mine. I've tested 4 and they all have it but one dev has already found a fix for it. Just be patient till its released. Shouldn't be long now.
There's indeed a heavy black crush problem on this device (beside the yellow tint...). Hope some developer will fix this. Dark photos or videos don't show any details on this screen....
NaimC said:
I definitely have a black crush issue with mine. I've tested 4 and they all have it but one dev has already found a fix for it. Just be patient till its released. Shouldn't be long now.
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Supercurio by any chance? Good luck with that, after saying it was pretty much possible to fix the problem in the Galaxy Note after the ICS source was released, we did not hear much in the thread he started, then after a few idiots tried low tactics to get a responce from him, he got the hump and closed the thread.
This is such a stupid problem, and one that samsung customer services still refuse to acknowledge.
I was told to return my device and get a new one from a different batch, which I did, only to find the new one had the same issue. Now they want me go without my brand new device for 2 weeks while they fix it...wtf!!!
I was considering the s3, but after seeing this I am holding fire.
CONTACTMC said:
Supercurio by any chance? Good luck with that, after saying it was pretty much possible to fix the problem in the Galaxy Note after the ICS source was released, we did not hear much in the thread he started, then after a few idiots tried low tactics to get a responce from him, he got the hump and closed the thread.
This is such a stupid problem, and one that samsung customer services still refuse to acknowledge.
I was told to return my device and get a new one from a different batch, which I did, only to find the new one had the same issue. Now they want me go without my brand new device for 2 weeks while they fix it...wtf!!!
I was considering the s3, but after seeing this I am holding fire.
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Yea, it is one of my few real niggles with this handset, but I have faith Supercurio will fix it. He mentioned that unlike the Note, the S3's fix was much easier and purely software based.
Also, I don't think changing S3's will solve the problem. It is my belief that ALL S3's suffer from this issue, it's just not all people realise or notice because it's not generally that obvious.
Now im using Filter Your Screen with (13 Alpha; 255 Red; 225 Green; 255 Blue)
question remains: is this filter going to damage the amoled screen and how much it effects the battery?
autostart on Filter Your Screen doesn't work
353523 said:
i tried to fix the black crush/color issues on my s3 with 'Super Manager 3.0'
(Screen Color Adjuster; Red +90, Green +65, Blue +90)
Then i found a similiar tool called 'Filter Your Screen'
(both available on Google play)
gives a warning for AMOLED devices:
does this only apply to the Filter Your Screen application
or does every Screen Adjuster is going to damage AMOLED screens?
(sorry for my english)
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Could you please post some pictures showing the black crush/color issue on your s3?
My s3 does not have this issue compared with my galaxy note before.
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another application to fix black crush: BackLightFilter
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Update from supercurio:
http://project-voodoo.org/articles/galaxy-s-iii-international-black-crush
353523 said:
Update from supercurio:
http://project-voodoo.org/articles/galaxy-s-iii-international-black-crush
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Thanks for this. I'm really waiting for this. Modification by supercurio.
Will this fix ink mark too?
Or just black crush
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Open this picture on your S3:
http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/2546/crush.png
if you can't distinguish the first 8 frames, than you got the black crush problem.
i cant see the first 11 from my comp or my phone.
Can someone please explain what black crush is? Is it just too dark shadows?
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look at the pictures in the thread.........
there is not gradual scaling from black to the rest of the color spectrum....if its not bright its Super Dark, no inbetween.
as in watching movies, a dark movie like the crow, or spawn. a lot of the scenes its just to dark to reallly even tell whats going on. but on my TV or even another phone, while its still dark you can SEE the difference in Blacks which defines the shapes of that scene.
or thats what i take from it anyway. i have not read anything just from my phone to other thread and pictures this is what i think it is.
ok, thanks. Now I can name this annoying "thing" when watching avi movies. I always blamed avi files for this. But as I can remember it's a common "feature"/bug in phones. I remember the same on Nokias too.
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i cant see the first 11 from my comp or my phone.
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Make sure you're on maximum brightness in a somewhat dark room and play around with the mDNIe scenarios and modes.
'Dynamic' mode doesn't allow me to see the difference, but others do - but I don't like their coloring.
Now I can name this annoying "thing" when watching avi movies. I always blamed avi files for this
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Very often it's the source file. Compression works by searching for blocks (or other geometrical shapes, e.g. triangles) of approximately the same color and storing them as having the same identic color. The "stronger" the video/image/audio compression, the more such artifacts you get. (Of course it's more complicated than that, since it has to consider 3 dimensions, them being X, Y and time T)
Sometimes players try to correct these issues with post-processing algorithms (which have their downside too), so it's more noticeable on some devices than others.