Nobody seems bothered by the display's sharpening artifacts? Amazing! - Galaxy S III General

This is very obvious the first few hours using the phone. Horrible sharpening halos around texts most noticeable on gray and non white backgrounds. It kills the black contrast of the text as well making it look gray and not to mention a pain to read. You can spot it easily in browser forums here: http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2250376 and here: http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/hardware-clinic-2/
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It looks even worse in than that in actual use.
Am I the only one bothered by this?

I used to feel that aswell on my Acer GD245HQ when i was like 2 cm from it, then i got glasses and standed at a normal distance and they disapear

Supercurio is busy working his magic for the display a few of his tweets:
"with tuned sharpening, perceived sharpness can be nicely improved, sans visible artefacts"
"image processor from GS3 is from a newer generation than any existing devices, adding finer controls over useful parameters"
"settings are clearly over-cooked (not the first time and no preset is reasonable /accurate) it's perfect for Display Expert"
He's also addressing black crush etc...
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LeviathanPT said:
I used to feel that aswell on my Acer GD245HQ when i was like 2 cm from it, then i got glasses and standed at a normal distance and they disapear
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i agree. unless it is norm to put your phone very near your eyes,use a magnifying lens or microscope when using your phone daily.

I just viewed the linked pages on my gs3 and I'm having a very hard time seeing what you're talking about. How does the text look remotely grey? And what halos? Text is sharp and easy to read even when zoomed out a fair bit. As you'd expect since it's a 300+ ppi screen.
Are you talking about the anti-aliasing? You don't want the font to be anti-aliased or something? Even in your magnified photo, I can't see what the problem is?

jonathanyong said:
I just viewed the linked pages on my gs3 and I'm having a very hard time seeing what you're talking about. How does the text look remotely grey? And what halos? Text is sharp and easy to read even when zoomed out a fair bit. As you'd expect since it's a 300+ ppi screen.
Are you talking about the anti-aliasing? You don't want the font to be anti-aliased or something? Even in your magnified photo, I can't see what the problem is?
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It isn't the anti alisaing. I increased the contrast a little to show the problem more clearly.
Notice the halos around the characters? Still dont know what is wrong? In browser tap menu, brightness and colors, select level 1 power saving. This makes the display color a little bluish but also eliminates the sharpening and makes the text much better looking as it should. Compare it to default and see if you notice a difference.

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i agree. unless it is norm to put your phone very near your eyes,use a magnifying lens or microscope when using your phone daily.
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I dont need a magnifying glass or bring the my device close to see the effect. Its perfectly visible at my normal reading distance.

Yes, I see it. Doesn't bother me at all.
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After a while you dont even notice it anymore, seems natural, but as said above, supercurio is working on some tools to help out

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It isn't the anti alisaing. I increased the contrast a little to show the problem more clearly.
Notice the halos around the characters? Still dont know what is wrong? In browser tap menu, brightness and colors, select level 1 power saving. This makes the display color a little bluish but also eliminates the sharpening and makes the text much better looking as it should. Compare it to default and see if you notice a difference.
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Ok I see it now. I can't really see that without the magnified and enhanced pic though. I think I can see a slight difference when using level 1 power saving but it's really difficult to know for sure. My eyes must be terrible!
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Maybe this phone needs to be used with Google Glasses?

SiNJiN76 said:
Maybe this phone needs to be used with Google Glasses?
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SGS3D ?

Let's complain about everything! Anyone else notice the white isn't really white? It's more of a off white! Wtf Samsung!
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bloodrain954 said:
Let's complain about everything! Anyone else notice the white isn't really white? It's more of a off white! Wtf Samsung!
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Please keep this thread related to the original topic, if you want to discuss if your screen is white or something else go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1658601
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LeviathanPT said:
Please keep this thread related to the original topic, if you want to discuss if your screen is white or something else go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1658601
Thanks
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He was making a joke..........

doronster195 said:
He was making a joke..........
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Ah sorry im too sensitive today ..

bloodrain954 said:
Let's complain about everything! Anyone else notice the white isn't really white? It's more of a off white! Wtf Samsung!
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I think this is a legitimate issue. I can see the poor text rendering in all lighting conditions unlike complains about imperfect blacks that can only be seem in pitch dark conditions. Joking aside the poor whites are also an issue.

I am also really annoyed by the over sharpening. I hope displayexpert is released soon and takes care of the issue..

Guancho said:
I am also really annoyed by the over sharpening. I hope displayexpert is released soon and takes care of the issue..
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Me too. Really, really annoying, but let's just wait for supercurio to do his magic.

Just another HOX buyers remorse thread. Move along.

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Heavy banding on gradients

So I just installed "the impossible game" on my brand new SGS2 and discovered there's some banding on the gradient in this game, which was not here with my Nexus One (AMOLED).
Has anyone else noticed that ? do you think it can be fixed later on (I know supercurio did some work on the first SGS's rendering) ?
edit : I'm only talking about the horizontal banding (the circular moiré is caused by the glass and visible only on the camera). Also I tried changing the brightness and background rendering but nothing helped.
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So I'm the only one experiencing that ?
I hope my phone is not faulty because I've already rooted it so I guess I can't return it anymore :-/
BlueScreenJunky said:
So I'm the only one experiencing that ?
I hope my phone is not faulty because I've already rooted it so I guess I can't return it anymore :-/
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not got that app i'm afraid...if it was just you then you can always flash back to the standard o2 sortware, removing the root. then using a jig remove the custom binary count...thus restoring your warranty
Rumble
Try checking the loading screen for the XDA app. It should be a nice gradient of brown but I remember it was HEAVILY banded on the Atrix.
Roger should chime in with more info on this =)
No need to use an app to test:
http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/gradient.php
I find it hard to believe that they've gone through all that to make the best display in the field and then limited it to 16bit colors (I believe super amoled has 24bit?)
Phew, it's not just me! The two things I'm disappointed with on this phone are the screen issues and the battery life. Other than that, it's incredible.
Let's hope for major firmware upgrades and dev support!
murklor said:
No need to use an app to test:
http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/gradient.php
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Thanx for the link. And of course we don't need to test on an app, I just happened to notice on this particular game, and thought it was best to avoid comparing with the browser or gallery since they could be faulty themselves (the gallery used to cause banding on the Nexus One).
I really hope it can be fixed later... I keep reading the screen is fantastic, but it doesn't look so good now (maybe it's better than pentile Matrix though)
I don't have a SGSII but you are certainly not alone, I've read a lot about this banding issue - remember reading somewhere about the possibility that it may infact be 16bit at the moment.
dinan said:
Try checking the loading screen for the XDA app. It should be a nice gradient of brown but I remember it was HEAVILY banded on the Atrix.
Roger should chime in with more info on this =)
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heh well i'll give my unofficial opinion is that your nexus one is running the latest 2.3.3 GB which fixed the nexus one's 16 bit color banding issue. did that game show banding on your nexus one last year?
anyway my opinion theory is the super amoled plus screen is still not 24 bit color yet, probably only 16 bit like the n1 was. i cant prove this though, so take as you wish.
the nexus one on the XDA app, the spalsh screen showed lots of banding for all last year. after the 2.3.3 update the banding is finally gone on the nexus one. and google admitted that the 2.3.3 update finally brought the n1 up from 16 bit color.
so my guess is the new amoled+ wasnt finalized yet, like the n1 originally, so the SGS2 is only 16 bit color in its current firmware version.
Very disappointing, I'll stay away from the phone for now and I hope they'll fix this as soon as possible! I feared that something like this would happen when I saw the GLBenchmark data (or something like that, which stated that it's 16-bit anyway). Good to hear that the N1 had the same problem and it got fixed, though!
flooki said:
Very disappointing, I'll stay away from the phone for now and I hope they'll fix this as soon as possible! I feared that something like this would happen when I saw the GLBenchmark data (or something like that, which stated that it's 16-bit anyway). Good to hear that the N1 had the same problem and it got fixed, though!
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It really isn't that noticeable, you can't see it under normal use when you're holding the phone at a normal distance.
Totally liveable in the short run knowing that it will get fixed. From the speed and quantity of updates, I'm guessing Samsung's trying to repair the black eye they got for pretty much ignoring the SGS.
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It really isn't that noticeable, you can't see it under normal use when you're holding the phone at a normal distance.
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I disagree, it's very noticeable when you have any image that has a gradient. Every time I load up the XDA app, or fire up Stupid Zombies, it's right there plain as day.
Very annoying.
yeah. it's plain obvious. for that game, i have to set the quality to low, so that the banding disappears
omg, you got to be kidding me... even my android-loaded HD2, which is definitely suffering from a hardware limit of 65536 colors, shows less banding, much less shall I say, than this supposedly 16M colored monster?? :-(
this issue wouldnt stop me from keeping the SGS2. but there were lots of specific test images used on the nexus one to highlight the issue.
in fact here is the article with test images you guys can try on your SGS2. at the time of this article, the pentile pixel matrix was the highlight. but a year later the 2.3.3 update kinda proved that the banding was NOT related to the pixels, since its totally fixed now.
interesting read nonetheless.
http://www.displaymate.com/Nexus_One_ShootOut.htm
After testing a bit more, the photo I took in the first post is THE most obvious case of banding I could find. The gradient in xda, or the one at http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/gradient.php are not perfect, but they don't look THAT bad.
edit : And yeah, it's not enough for me to return the phone, and I'd buy it again knowing that, but it's still annoying, especially since they insisted so much on the quality of the SAMOLED+ screen.
It's purely a software bug. I'm almost certain the physical display can handle these gradients.
On my Nexus One/S if I view that sunset on mars photo in the stock android gallery I get all that banding. If I use another gallery like QuickPic, no banding at all.
It's a similar bug when setting home page wallpapers. You get quite a bit of banding doing it the stock way, but using wallpaper set & save to set the background eliminates banding.
It's not the screen, it's the rom, the browser is set/capped to 16 bits. The gallery however actually displays in 24 bits.
This issue can be fixed with a custom rom, it's probably set to 16 bits to allow smoother web browsing, which is totally stupid because the processor is totally capable of handling smooth browsing with 24 bits display.
There is color cap in WP7, currently with some tweak my Focus does display 24bit color in Pictures hub but 16bit in any browser related app. You people may want to try more.

Blotches on an all black screen? Test yours here

Can you guys with cameras that have manual control test something for me?
Following on from a post by someone else about weird blotches on an all black image displayed on the screen, I checked mine today in pitch darkness and noticed a faint 2 inch or so of blackness on one edge of the screen along with smaller blotches. It doesn't appear to be as visible as the other poster's though but I exaggerated in in the photo so it's easier to see and settings posted below for people to check as well.
This is only visible on an all black screen. This does not exist on any of the S2's I've owned. I'll check my dad's S3 tonight when I go see him in the same way but the way to photograph it to keep the results consistent are as follows:
Stick camera and phone in a cupboard and...
Phone screen brightness: 50%
Camera ISO: 200
Camera Shutter: 15 seconds
Camera Aperture: f/4.5
Remember to pre-focus and use the 10sec timer to avoid shake
Those settings will over exaggerate the effect as shown in my photo below but it makes it easier for everyone to see as you do have to focus your eyes in reality and it's not immediately obvious unless you're in pitch darkness and looking at an all black screen.
I don't know how I feel about this though but if it's visible using the above camera settings for lots of people then I'll leave it as is.
Again, it's only visible on an all black screen so make sure your image that you load is all black and not grey or something Make sure screen timeout is set to at least a minute to avoid the screen going off!
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I used this free app to notice my blotches. It worked great for me. Your method has alot of steps in my opinion.
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What free app? It's a black image with screen timeout extended. The rest is your camera settings to be able to fairly photograph the screen for everyone to compare, an app can't do that
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I used this free app to notice my blotches. It worked great for me. Your method has alot of steps in my opinion.
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Which free app? What exactly did you do in order to notice them?
Did you see these threads Robbie?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1700350
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1683483
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1686633
I didn't see those nope! Thanks for the links. Seems strange though as the white S3 belonging to my dad has none of the blotches, neither does a pebble blue on another forum. My 2 S2 handsets had no issues either.
Oh well!
My first phone: (F/4, ISO 800, 20sec)
Second phone: (F/4, ISO 800, 30sec)
The guy at the store (**** Smith in Australia) was unable to reproduce the issue in-store, so swapped the phone out and said I'd have to go to samsung if I reported the same issue again. The 2nd phone still has the issue, but as you can see, nowhere near as bad... still... not very good is it.
My 2 year SGS1 had about 4 spots - never noticed any issue. The first SGS3 was definitely noticeable just scrolling through system menus at night.
That's rather bad^^ I've emailed mobiflefun with picture so let's see what they say.
Suggest you up your exposure (duration and/or ISO) to make it a bit more noticeable. Looks like you've got a fair amount of guff in the top-left corner.
:/ dodgy manufacturing.
I don't have an SGSIII yet, but I noticed pretty much this same thing on my Galaxy Note. One night I was viewing an image with an all black screen and it had these weird blotches on the screen. I had never noticed them before.
Actually mine does has it as well but I can't seem to see it under normal conditions
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Actually mine does has it as well but I can't seem to see it under normal conditions
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This is AMOLED. My PS Vita has same thing. Nothing you can do about it.
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I have it too. Looks like a crack from the inside out on the bottom left corner.
I can see it in Settings/led notification screen at the bottom at night with screen brightness low.
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This is AMOLED. My PS Vita has same thing. Nothing you can do about it.
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My galaxy nexus doesn't have this so it's not all of them.
I saw around 10 to 15 blotches on my screen,not at all noticable in everyday use only when i looked very closely i saw them scattered around the middle.As its my first amoled phone,i want to know is it harmful for the screen?Shd i ask for replacement?Though i dont have any pink spots or tints watsoever.
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My galaxy nexus doesn't have this so it's not all of them.
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My 4 GNexus did.
Wow this looks like a widespread issue. Samsung needs to know about this
I assume samsung knew even before shipping the units.
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Actually mine does has it as well but I can't seem to see it under normal conditions
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This "issue" is known since the SGS1. Is the leakege from the AMOLED display. One thing to consider i only have a line about half a CM in the same place where you have the circle mark. Maybe a manufacture failure?
quicker way to test.
1 - dark room
2 set auto brightness off and screen to lowest brightness.
go to phone and dial *#0*#
click vibrate test which will display black screen.
and then check....
p.s been through this in other threads here but mky local telco had 26 with this issue went to another telco and got a blue one today - and no issue whatsoever...

I Still Can See Pixels in S4

Somehow I can still see the border of font is jaggies for example white text on dark background in xda app or keyboard. I can see red and green pixel at the border of text..
It is not that sharp.
Do you guys can see it also?
I think full hd pentile is still not enough for 5inch screen to fully unsee the pixels, maybe it should be in 4.5 inch.
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No you just have super vision.... Seriously this probably the best display that you can find.
Not a single pixel watchable here! Maybe your images are really really low in graphics or you're playing Minecraft.
Regards :thumbup:
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dragon135 said:
Somehow I can still see the border of font is jaggies for example white text on dark background in xda app or keyboard. I can see rgbg pixel at the border..
It is not that sharp.
Do you guys can see it also?
I think full hd pentile is still not enough for 5inch screen to fully unsee the pixels, maybe it should be in 4.5 inch.
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Visual acuity is different for many people.
It may be that you are beyond average or you device has something wrong with it
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I wish I also had superhuman eyesight.
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Your eyesight.. Is superhuman.. I wish I have your eyesight.
X-ray vision - X-ray vision
Actually, I think you see things. The arrangement of sub-pixels of the S4 is different than rgbg.
http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-s4-display-diamond-pixels-199926/
Maybe you bought S3 by accident or some mockup of the real S4?
dragon135 said:
Somehow I can still see the border of font is jaggies for example white text on dark background in xda app or keyboard. I can see rgbg pixel at the border..
It is not that sharp.
Do you guys can see it also?
I think full hd pentile is still not enough for 5inch screen to fully unsee the pixels, maybe it should be in 4.5 inch.
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I think you're mind is playing tricks on you
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Yes Yes...the pixels
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i also can
but i dont always look at my screen from 10cm image quality is more than enough for me i also prefer true black instead of little more sharper image on lcd.
I have great vision, I can see a bumper sticker on a gnats ass, but I can't see any pixels on mine.
Kriomag said:
but i dont always look at my screen from 10cm image quality is more than enough for me i also prefer true black instead of little more sharper image on lcd.
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When the phone starts up an the Samsung logo appears, I can also see some jagged curves near the alphabet "S". But with normal distance, it is not possible.
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The pixel arrangement does cause the odd artifact to appear on fonts, yes. I sometimes see green halos on the top edges of white fonts on black if i really want to look for it.
There is also a very clear row of red sub pixels at the bottom of the display. if this is what the OP means by 'the boarder' then yep its there and nope he's not just 'seeing things'. Id post an image from my SLR which shows it very clearly but i need 10 posts to link to external websites lol.
Anyway, it's there and real. But its so small that you can't see it really unless you are looking for it. So my advice to the OP is just dont worry about it And my advice to everybody else is.....get your eyes tested :laugh:
If i look closely i can also see pixels.. i guess we'll have to wait for 600+ ppi displays.
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Yes Yes...the pixels
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This is by far the funniest response to a post I've ever seen in my life. Thank you
It's just crap images, not the lack of pixels. Find a PDF document (vector graphics instead of pixels) and you won't be able to see any.
James.Miller said:
The pixel arrangement does cause the odd artifact to appear on fonts, yes. I sometimes see green halos on the top edges of white fonts on black if i really want to look for it.
There is also a very clear row of red sub pixels at the bottom of the display. if this is what the OP means by 'the boarder' then yep its there and nope he's not just 'seeing things'. Id post an image from my SLR which shows it very clearly but i need 10 posts to link to external websites lol.
Anyway, it's there and real. But its so small that you can't see it really unless you are looking for it. So my advice to the OP is just dont worry about it And my advice to everybody else is.....get your eyes tested :laugh:
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Yes, I mean there is green/red pixel around the edge of white font especially in dark background. For example in keyboard.
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In 8 cm distance you can see pixel.
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[petition] kill the lg g3 oversharpening!

Hey guys!
If you've been using the LG G3 for a while now you're probably heard of the oversharpening problem. While I'm not sure how many of you care about this, I have seen quite a few discussions about this problem on the forum.
I made a thunderclap petition to hopefully get LG's attention and get them to release an update that either removes the sharpening or allows us to toggle it on or off.
http://pocketnow.com/2014/07/22/lg-g3-sharpening
Thanks in advance to everyone who decides to participate.
This is another one of those 'problems' I fail to see, much like the 'lag'.....
MalekoUK said:
This is another one of those 'problems' I fail to see, much like the 'lag'.....
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Ya i agree, I think its mostly psychological, one of those once you see it you cant unsee it, like a dead pixel.
I am running my phone on paranoidAndroid and it doesnt have sharpening and I don't see the difference , both look great
Its obviously there, even in TWRP, if you cant see it don't complain when other people can. It IS there.
Not too convinced about this thunderclap site as I dont like to share this stuff on my social accounts, but you have my support.
This sharppening is so stupid I cant even find words to describe it.
I guess it is here to trick clueless people into seing a difference with other screens ? :s
sooti said:
Ya i agree, I think its mostly psychological, one of those once you see it you cant unsee it, like a dead pixel.
I am running my phone on paranoidAndroid and it doesnt have sharpening
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Id love to see this in a photo, could you please show us a photo of the screen with a sharpen test or black text on grey background?
What sharpening?
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What sharpening?
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That glow/outline you see around, for example, black letters on gray background.
I can't believe there's somebody who can't see it. Check your eyes or maybe there's another display model/manufacturer?
No sharpening no lag here D851. I really dont think a petition would solve this so called issue any way. Good luck though.
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That glow/outline you see around, for example, black letters on gray background.
I can't believe there's somebody who can't see it. Check your eyes or maybe there's another display model/manufacturer?
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Not everyone have this... Like me and the other guys...
Been looking for that over sharpening effect with no luck... D855 32GB
I am fairly confident that there are different quality display panels out there, the sharpening issue seems to be linked to this (which also appears to be linked to brightness levels).
Those without the issue have displays that can go to brighter levels, those with the issues tend to have dimmer displays (even on max brightness).
Those without the issue only see the issue if they go to 'sub-zero' brightness levels with an app like Lux.
My belief is LG realised that some panels were poor(er) so adjusted the sofware to assist.
If anyone can't see it, use lux to reduce brightness a bit below zero and have a look at a text heavy webpage; its awful.
Try not using lux, maybe thats the issue... Who needs below 0 brightness?
Using LUX is not a problem, it is a very good app.
If you go below 0 then moan that is your own fault, going below 0 is not a function the phone is designed to do and when you "mod" you do so at your own risk.
I do go below 0 for night mode, but you don't see me on here moaning about sharpening issues.
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That being said, some people (not me) do have issues with sharpening when their phone is above 0, but I believe this is because their phones are naturally darker, so their say 10 brightness might be the same as my -10, which is why they are seeing sharpening in 'normal' conditions when I am not.
What's brightness got to do with it? Its just as obvious at 100% as it is below 0.
All G3s have it, some people just cant see it, if you cant think yourself lucky.
ChrisM75 said:
What's brightness got to do with it? Its just as obvious at 100% as it is below 0.
All G3s have it, some people just cant see it, if you cant think yourself lucky.
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I'm OCD with anything like this, and It ain't present on my G3
ChrisM75 said:
What's brightness got to do with it? Its just as obvious at 100% as it is below 0.
All G3s have it, some people just cant see it, if you cant think yourself lucky.
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"all g3's have it"..... no they don't at least not at normal operating levels.
If my display is anywhere between -2 and +100 brightness there is no sharpening effect at all, no glow, no weird text no nothing it is a perfect display - this is a fact, not my eyes.
if I go to around -4 you can see it until I go down to about -10 then it stops again.
I am not questioning the issue, I have seen and compared my display with others who do have the problem and it can be a real issue, but not everyone has it.
As for what does brightness have to do with it, I am trying to find out what the differences are between those that have the issue and those that don't and the only common denominator is the fact that all the displays that have the issue cannot go as bright as those that do not have the issue.
e.g. 100% brightness on my phone will be significantly brighter than 100% on someone who suffers from oversharpening.
This is also why when the G3 was first released there were lots of threads on here about the display being too dim.
Then take a picture and prove it. Its on every variant, every firmware. Its there.
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Then take a picture and prove it. Its on every variant, every firmware. Its there.
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because variants and firmware doesn't alter the quality of the LCD panel!
are you not reading? There are plenty of people here on XDA who say they have no issue, including quite a few with very high credibility levels, who have nothing to gain from lying.
And sorry I cannot currently take a picture as I am not in the habit of carrying a second camera device around with me.....
Lennyuk said:
because variants and firmware doesn't alter the quality of the LCD panel!
are you not reading? There are plenty of people here on XDA who say they have no issue, including quite a few with very high credibility levels, who have nothing to gain from lying.
And sorry I cannot currently take a picture as I am not in the habit of carrying a second camera device around with me.....
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Does it appear if you take a screenshot (Power + Vol Dwn)?
I have a rogers D852 and tried to replicate the Black text on gray background and I don't see it. Brightness on 100% but I normally keep it at Auto.
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Its got nothing to do with the LCD panel quality, its an artificial post processed effect, its nothing to do with the hardware. Ive seen the phones of some people who say they dont have it, they have it! I bet if I saw your phone id see it at all brightness levels. Its less obvious at low brightness, but thats just a natural result of the dim display, its still there.
I don't care about 'credibility'. Just because someone is good at making ROMs or whatever it doesn't mean they have good eyes. They have the effect, they just don't notice it. There is no other explanation for why LG released the phone with this effect, its hideous to those that see it.

[Q] psychedelic screen in full sunlight...

Has anyone used their screen in full sunlight?
a few of us on the Australian Model (910G) has found that in full sunlight in any of the 4 modes the auto brightness seems to adjust the screen WAY up so that colours are washed out and the screen looks psychedelic.
Its utterly revolting.
is there any way to disable this OTHER than disabling auto brightness?
or is this a firmware bug?
Hey mate I have been in full sunlight a number of times and not noticed this at all. I would notice it as I am quite picky.
Model: N910G Build: N910GDTU1ANJ3
OnlinePredator said:
Hey mate I have been in full sunlight a number of times and not noticed this at all. I would notice it as I am quite picky.
Model: N910G Build: N910GDTU1ANJ3
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I can force it by a small LED torch as well (after about 30-40 seconds of steady bright light) It's not just me though At least two others I know have it as well...
I have something of the same... In the sunlight i can use it fine but when i put a shadow over it... it looks a bit weird in contrast with the part of the screen in the sunlight. I thought it would be something to do to make the screen better in the sun!
senectus said:
I can force it by a small LED torch as well (after about 30-40 seconds of steady bright light) It's not just me though At least two others I know have it as well...
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Under direct sunlight I can barely notice this, I have just tested at my work as the sun shines in through a window next to me. If I hold it under direct sunlight it does boost the saturation, but while it's under sunlight I can barely tell this has happened. When I take it away you can tell that it has boosted the saturation but it's not Psychedelic to me at all. So I believe my phone doesn't have this issue.
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Under direct sunlight I can barely notice this, I have just tested at my work as the sun shines in through a window next to me. If I hold it under direct sunlight it does boost the saturation, but while it's under sunlight I can barely tell this has happened. When I take it away you can tell that it has boosted the saturation but it's not Psychedelic to me at all. So I believe my phone doesn't have this issue.
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Its especially noticeable in games.. I'm a bit addicted to both Marvel Puzzle Quest and Ingress.. and you really *really* notice it in the former, the latter not as badly but its definitely there.
It is supposed to do this when Auto Brightness is enabled. The picture should answer some of your questions and better understand what exactly is taking place.
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Colors maybe screwed up but at least is readable in direct sunlight
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xtrandrix said:
It is supposed to do this when Auto Brightness is enabled. The picture should answer some of your questions and better understand what exactly is taking place.
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hmm interesting, it doesn't really explain why it jacks it to such a point that the screen looks ridiculous... but thanks.
If this is indeed deliberate, I'm not sure how I feel about it.
I mean its great that it makes it readable in the intense light we get during the day, but at cost of image quality? I'm not sure.
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hmm interesting, it doesn't really explain why it jacks it to such a point that the screen looks ridiculous... but thanks.
If this is indeed deliberate, I'm not sure how I feel about it.
I mean its great that it makes it readable in the intense light we get during the day, but at cost of image quality? I'm not sure.
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Yeah the colors can look a bit odd but having the benefit of reading the net and so forth in direct sunlight is an okay trade off I assume
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910U model had this until the latest update, I would say the next update will correct the 'crayon style" look that occurs in direct sunlight, it did for the U so should for you lol.
EDIT: oh and the brightness is still great just doesnt have the cartoon colours.
homer285 said:
910U model had this until the latest update, I would say the next update will correct the 'crayon style" look that occurs in direct sunlight, it did for the U so should for you lol.
EDIT: oh and the brightness is still great just doesnt have the cartoon colours.
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Oh yeah? That's awesome news.. I'm N910V from Verizon. Will be looking forward to this fix
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May be irrelevant but someone mentioned this to me last week and I suggested to change the "screen mode". It's default is adaptive and for some, is terrible at ruining colours in any light... I believe he changed it to "Basic" or try any other the other three choices and said it worked (for the most part).. Was less crazy anyways, I believe he said.. Worth a shot
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May be irrelevant but someone mentioned this to me last week and I suggested to change the "screen mode". It's default is adaptive and for some, is terrible at ruining colours in any light... I believe he changed it to "Basic" or try any other the other three choices and said it worked (for the most part).. Was less crazy anyways, I believe he said.. Worth a shot
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As I mentioned earlier, I've tried it in all 4 modes.. it does it in all.
I'm looking forward to the firmware update too, but being on Telstra I'm not holding my breath... those guys are hopeless at getting updates out..
So sorry didn't notice u mentioned that... My bad
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same here Australia n910G. Howeve my guess is that it's a mode for better readability under direct sunlight
I don't notice this since the last update (ANJ5). Screen gets brighter in sunlight using auto at max brightness, but not bleached out.
Thanks for bringing this up because I thought I had a defective device

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